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Speaker 1: and Out podcast, Little Pro Bowl Addiction. We're diving deep

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Speaker 1: into the Pro Bowl, the rotations, who's gonna play, Who's

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Speaker 1: mention the Pro Bowl today. I didn't know the Pro

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Speaker 1: football's at him to sign. There's like seventeen footballs all

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Speaker 1: hitting him in the in his body, in his head

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk actual NFL. Uh, Jim Harbaugh. Pretty crazy story.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Minnesota Vikings did not offer him the job.

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Speaker 1: Is that a mistake? Uh? Tom Brady did not mention

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Speaker 1: other stories. Middlecoff Mailbag at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: is the Instagram I'm gonna push that to the weekend,

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Speaker 1: mail bag just for the weekend. So that's what we're

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Speaker 1: moving forward. Just messing with some things. Great part about

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Speaker 1: big news of I guess it would have been Wednesday night,

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425
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Speaker 1: got news for you, Like at the highest level of

426
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Speaker 1: hell in any business, anyone listening to this, you gotta

427
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Speaker 1: push the envelope a little bit. If you don't stay

428
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Speaker 1: in the fast lane and you hang out in the

429
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Speaker 1: slow lane, you're getting lapped. Everyone in pro sports, these

430
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Speaker 1: aren't legal loss These are arbitrary, built in by laws

431
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Speaker 1: of your league. Everyone is talking to people that they

432
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Speaker 1: shouldn't be. So if he wants you to talk to

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, I don't think that's that crazy. Taking a

434
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Speaker 1: hundred grand, I get it, Joe Burrow's worth a lot

435
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: more grand. But winning those games, I could see where

436
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: the GM and the owner could never look at him

437
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: the same because then they made a random decision, right

438
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: because it was on them, the coach and the owner,

439
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: to pick the right quarterback, and they picked the wrong guy,

440
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: and it's altered the decision of the organization, which is

441
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Speaker 1: in shambles. They have a below average quarterback when they

442
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Speaker 1: could have had Joe Burrow, who literally has the Bengals

443
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Speaker 1: in the championship, and Justin Herbert, who, because of his coach,

444
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: goes forward every fourth down, didn't make the playoffs despite

445
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Speaker 1: him being a top five quarterback in the league. And

446
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Speaker 1: in terms of the sham interview that he had with

447
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Speaker 1: the Giants, I don't think that's arguable. It clearly was

448
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Speaker 1: a sham interview. Now when you read the Patriot or

449
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Speaker 1: the text messages that you have with Bill Belichick, he's

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Speaker 1: from New York. Like he said, it would be a

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Speaker 1: dream job for him to be the New York Giants.

452
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Speaker 1: So after he gets fired, which I'm sure he thinks

453
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Speaker 1: was unfairly done because he had won nineteen games in

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Speaker 1: the last two years, that's think about floors. He won games,

455
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Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs, but he won games with a

456
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Speaker 1: below average quarterback because he's a good defensive coach and

457
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: their defense was really good, and their offense kind of

458
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: sucked because their quarterback is a piece shooter arm but

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Speaker 1: he he thinks the Giants. Here's the thing. I I

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Speaker 1: can just put myself in the situation. When I was

461
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL, I got fired after the draft. I

462
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Speaker 1: knew I was getting fired in mid February. That's when

463
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Speaker 1: the combine used to be. Now they've moved it back

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Speaker 1: to March. I knew I was getting fired. I knew

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Speaker 1: the guy replacing me a couple of weeks later. So

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Speaker 1: these situations and I said, oh, I've said on this podcast,

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Speaker 1: John Mara, the owner of the Giants, I've been told

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Speaker 1: by reliable people weeks ago wanted them to talk to

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Speaker 1: Brian Flores. And remember, if you've listened to me for

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Speaker 1: a while. I I had said, John Mars should let

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Speaker 1: his gentleman. You cannot hire Joe Shane and not allow

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Speaker 1: him to hire his own general manager. And ultimately that's

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Speaker 1: what he did. But I think the entire league, and

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Speaker 1: that's why the media is very disingenuous on this, knew

475
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Speaker 1: that Brian Daball was gonna be the next head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Giants. Why because that's what Joe Shane wanted

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Speaker 1: to bring so, yes, it was a sham interview. We

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Speaker 1: all knew it. Now, maybe Flores's emotions were running high,

479
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Speaker 1: and I know it would check off the Rooney rule

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Speaker 1: because now you have to interview two outside minority candidates.

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Speaker 1: But like I, I I don't think how, I don't see

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Speaker 1: how that's that shocking. The general manager was literally hired

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Speaker 1: to bring in his own guy. When you're interviewed for

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Speaker 1: being a general manager, I've never been interviewed, but I

485
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Speaker 1: would imagine that the owner asked you, who's gonna be

486
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Speaker 1: your head coach? Who do you think he told the

487
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Speaker 1: mars was gonna be his head coach? My guest would

488
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Speaker 1: be Brian Dable. Why Bill Belichick knew that the situation

489
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: was going didn't we all know? Didn't we all know?

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Speaker 1: The only question? When Flores was interviewing, we were like,

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Speaker 1: I wonder if Mara is going to force Flora's on him,

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Speaker 1: because at least Flores has a track record, he's won,

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Speaker 1: and I I get why he's mad. And listen, I

494
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Speaker 1: I get the two best position coaches I've ever been

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Speaker 1: around in my entire life, by far Douce Staley, Tim Skipper,

496
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: and they get they get passed over for jobs all

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Speaker 1: the time. I think it's insane. How I just see

498
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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell again. I don't know, the guy might be

499
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Speaker 1: really good, but you see some of these guys, I

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Speaker 1: completely understand the anger, uh the guy like Brian Flores

501
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Speaker 1: has I mean, I've seen it with my own friends

502
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: in the business. Douce Staley is a fucking superstar. Coach.

503
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Speaker 1: Tim Skipper now is the assistant head coach for the

504
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Speaker 1: Fresno State Bulldogs. Like the guy should be a coordinator

505
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Speaker 1: a minimum in the Power five. He should be a

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Speaker 1: head coach. Say, I mean, say, what does how's do Stalley?

507
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Speaker 1: Not getting any of these interviews? It's bullshit. But to me,

508
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Speaker 1: the floor is part about not getting the interview, like

509
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Speaker 1: or other people knowing before the interview, like yeah, welcome

510
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Speaker 1: to the NFL. Doesn't that happen in all these pro sports?

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Speaker 1: I mean, we all know, we talked about it, the

512
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Speaker 1: media talks about it. I don't see how it's that shocking.

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Speaker 1: Now is anything legally gonna happen? Time will tell. I

514
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Speaker 1: think the biggest by far, obviously the bigest headline is

515
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Speaker 1: the hundred thousand dollars now does he have the evidence

516
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson got involved, saying that Jimmy Haslum was gonna

517
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Speaker 1: do the same thing. The media is talking like they're

518
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Speaker 1: gonna get kicked out of being owners. Uh. The media

519
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: says a lot of crazy things. I would doubt that,

520
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: but time will tell. You know, Like I said, a

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars is not enough for Joe Burrow that

522
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, Joe Burrow to the What what Joe Burrow

523
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Speaker 1: would have been worth for them? If they would have

524
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: fixed the tanking and done it correctly, the Dolphins would

525
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: have been in playoffs last two years. That's just a fact.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's that. I guess. Last year he got injured,

527
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Speaker 1: but this year he took the Bengals, the fucking Bengals

528
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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Another story that I saw is

529
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Speaker 1: Matt Uberflus. Uh. Uberflus is uh you know a name.

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Speaker 1: I had never really heard of him. I know, I

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Speaker 1: bet Cowboy fans I'm sure have that. He had been

532
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Speaker 1: an assistant coach for you guys with Jason Garrett and

533
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Speaker 1: then he got hired when Josh McDaniels has taken the job.

534
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Speaker 1: And that was the first I'd heard of him. Because

535
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: when Josh McDaniels bounces and then you know, uh goes

536
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Speaker 1: back to the Patriots, it was like, well, they're just

537
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Speaker 1: stuck with their defensive coordinator at this guy named you

538
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Speaker 1: Refluce and I was like, oh, that's kind of crazy,

539
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Speaker 1: and they kept him. They kept him and he was

540
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Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator last several years and Frank right, and

541
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Speaker 1: he's been good. The Colts defense has been really good. Really,

542
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Speaker 1: the Colts problem has been quarterback play, right, especially this year,

543
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Speaker 1: their defense has been awesome. And I say it all

544
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: the time when a guy like that, who's never been

545
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Speaker 1: a head coach in the NFL gets hired to be

546
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Speaker 1: a head coach and then they asked him, are you

547
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: going to be the coordinator? And he goes, no, Bro,

548
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Speaker 1: I'm not hiring you to be Bezos or Warren Buffett.

549
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Speaker 1: You are literally getting hired because of what you just

550
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Speaker 1: did with the Colts. That's why you got hired to

551
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: be a good defensive coach. In what world do you think?

552
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Speaker 1: I don't want you calling defense anymore? Now? As we've

553
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Speaker 1: seen and listen, the owners in this league and the

554
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Speaker 1: team presidents in this league, the overwhelming majority of them

555
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: as Belichick said in the book, don't know a football

556
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: from a fucking golf ball. So these people have no clue.

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Speaker 1: That's why Jimmy Sexton praise on these e d s

558
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Speaker 1: in college. It's why all the top agents in the

559
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: pros now are praying on these owners. Most of these

560
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: guys are clueless and listen. I think the Bears in

561
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: the McK askey family nice people. I don't think they

562
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Speaker 1: have any clue what they're doing. Absolutely none. So Bill Polian,

563
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Speaker 1: who they allowed to run the show, who Listen, is

564
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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame football guy. He's like ninety years old,

565
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Speaker 1: So to allow him to basically just hand pick your people,

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Speaker 1: to me, seems a little crazy. And then to hire

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Speaker 1: this guy and allow him to say, yeah, I'm not

568
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Speaker 1: gonna call plays is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. I'm not hiring you to

570
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Speaker 1: be a CEO. If I wanted a CEO, I'd hire

571
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Speaker 1: some older NFL coach who had been a head coach

572
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Speaker 1: several times. When that's what you would do. If you

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Speaker 1: wanted a guy to just run your operation and not

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Speaker 1: call plays, wouldn't you just go find a Ron rivera

575
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Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis, even a Jim Caldwell type. It wouldn't call place,

576
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Speaker 1: just be like, hey, you don't have to call place,

577
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Speaker 1: just run the organization. Wouldn't that be the move if

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Speaker 1: you were hiring a first time head coach. Of them

579
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Speaker 1: are coming from being coordinators. Don't you want them to

580
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Speaker 1: keep being coordinators? Isn't that what they do? Well? If

581
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Speaker 1: you're like, hey, middlecoff, we want we want to go

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Speaker 1: into business with you. What can you bring the table? Well,

583
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean I could sell, I could talk like then

584
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: it's like, well, we don't want you to talk, we

585
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: want you to code. It's like, well, I mean I

586
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: can figure out coding. It doesn't make any sense, it

587
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: really doesn't. I I can't wrap my head around these

588
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: coaches that consistently get these jobs. Robert Slid did it

589
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: last year, and I like Robert sal a lot, but

590
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: I I couldn't. I still don't understand for the life

591
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Speaker 1: of me. And then their defense is atrocious. It's like, Robert,

592
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Speaker 1: I hired you the best, one of the best defensive

593
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Speaker 1: coordinators the last several years, and then all of a

594
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: sudden you just become just kicking your office. I don't

595
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: get it and the Bears from Ryan Poles, who again

596
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: I've heard really good things about coming out and talking

597
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: shit about the division like they're gonna run it. To me,

598
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: seems a little crazy. And then their head coach claiming

599
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: that he's not gonna call plays is even crazier. I

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00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: understand the bravado, Like, hell, who am I to say?

601
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Speaker 1: Maybe if I was in that uh, in front of

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00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: that Mike, I might just blurt that out. Talk talk

603
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: your ship. You know, listen. I think it's stupid, but

604
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Speaker 1: you know, emotions get running, you start feeling yourself. You're

605
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: just a g M understandable. I don't understand because clearly

606
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: you thought this out, like, yeah, I'm not gonna call

607
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: plays unless the ownership asked you to not call plays,

608
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: which would be moronic. Um. I just think it's stupid.

609
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: Let's just fire around some quick NFL stories. Jalen Hurts

610
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: had ankle surgery. Uh. You know, maybe you could justify

611
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 1: because I didn't think he was playing that well at

612
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: the end of the season. Definitely throwing them, not throwing

613
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Speaker 1: the ball that well. Pretty crazy that he was able

614
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Speaker 1: to run that well with the mess up ankle. Uh.

615
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Speaker 1: Something to keep an eye and if you're Philly, like

616
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Speaker 1: there's not really any quarterbacks available unless they're gonna trade

617
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Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson. If Russell Wilson's not gonna be on

618
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: the market, you know that that would be the first

619
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Speaker 1: guy they would want. But if he's not available, and

620
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Speaker 1: I do wonder if the Eagles would be in the

621
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Speaker 1: DeShawn sweepstakes. I would never say never, but it would

622
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: be fascinating. I mean, we eventually need some of this

623
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Speaker 1: stuff to play out, and we know that the court

624
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: systems just operate on their own time. Uh, Rodgers would

625
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: never go to Philly, it makes no sense. So I

626
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,239
Speaker 1: think there's a decents of Jalen just their quarterback next year,

627
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Speaker 1: and maybe they can justify in their own head that

628
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: he was just banged up injured and he'll be more

629
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Speaker 1: suited moving forward. The Washington Commanders, I would have just

630
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: kept football team. It happens in the Premier League in soccer.

631
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Speaker 1: Just call at the Washington football team. I thought the uh,

632
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, the the uniforms look good once they transition

633
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: from redskins the football team. To me, the Commanders like

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Speaker 1: it's kind of trying too hard, and part of it

635
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: is it's very, very hard to come up with a name, right.

636
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: It just is because a lot of names just have

637
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: been taken, a lot of names that are new. Our

638
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: natural reactions is gonna be that's weird. I think football

639
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: team worked. Now, maybe the NFL was really pushing them

640
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: to the name. I don't know. I just command not

641
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: that I hate commanders, but I would again, I would

642
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: have just got on a football team. Joe Brady went

643
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: from hot shot, can't miss offensive coordinator to two years

644
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: later being a position coach. It shows you this hype

645
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,239
Speaker 1: train and I listen, you know, we've got a big

646
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: audience here. I can be a part of it. But

647
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: for the most part, you know, I just hype up people.

648
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: I know. I never hype up people. I don't know,

649
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: just because the media hypes them up. And most of

650
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: the media when they hype up these general manager and

651
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: coaching candidates are doing so because they know the agent.

652
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: That's where they get fed. And listen, Joe Brady, you

653
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: know the offense at l s U was incredible. Well,

654
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 1: it turns out they had Joe fucking Burrow justin Jeffer

655
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: and Jim mar Chase and the Chiefs starting running back.

656
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: So could you and I have ran that offense and

657
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: they still gone, you know, one twelve games probably, But

658
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: he ran a hype train and there were rumors like

659
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: was he truly calling the plays? Was the older coach

660
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: calling the plays? And the media hype train took him

661
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: to another level and it made him the most decisse.

662
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: He went from being a quality control coach to three

663
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: years later making two million dollars and by a year

664
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: and a half, Matt Rule who listened might not be

665
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: good either, ran his ass out of town. And now

666
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: he's a quarterback coach. It just shows you, man, It's

667
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: it's why I get back to Ryan Poles right when

668
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: you when you make these bold statements, whether it's in football,

669
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: in any industry, you can go from the penthouse to

670
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: the outhouse faster than even blank. The best part about America,

671
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: you can go back from the outhouse up to the

672
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: penthouse quickly as well. But like we all get humbled

673
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: in whatever we do with the quickness, and Joe Brady

674
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: is a good example of that. A guy that was

675
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: turning down coordinator jobs worth seven figures, the guy was

676
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: making two million dollars a year. Now he's a position coach.

677
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: Uh Robert Salo, I like it when young coaches do this,

678
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: and I also think it's kind of dumb. McKay Beckton,

679
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: who was the high draft pick who's like six six,

680
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: three fifty pounds and moves like a linebacker, missed a

681
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: bunch of games this year. The Jets left tackle who

682
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas drafted before slo got there, missed a bunch

683
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: of games this year with an injury. Robert Sala, I

684
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: don't know where he said this. I just saw the

685
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: headline that he stated that he's gonna have to earn

686
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: his job back this fall. And you know, like I,

687
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: I do think that every once in a while, stuff

688
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: like that matters. When you're a top ten pick and

689
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: you're a left tackle, like no one's better than him.

690
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: Like now, maybe you're trying to, like uh psychologically, you know, play,

691
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, inspire him a little bit, which I understand,

692
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: but deep down his paycheck, he knows where he's drafted.

693
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: Like you ain't mentioning him, you ain't finding better. That

694
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: is not happening. So the statement sounds really sweet. It

695
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter like he's your starting left tackle, because

696
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: if he's not, then like Joe Douglas is on the

697
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: hot seat. Brett Veach said that they will franchise Orlando Brown.

698
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: We'll see on that one. UM, I haven't. I haven't

699
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: talked to each about it. But you know, is Orlando

700
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: Brown the type guy that you want to build around

701
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: at left tackle? You know, they did give up a

702
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: second round pick for him. Remember they did that swap

703
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: where they gave up a first round but then they

704
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: switched second round pick, so it turned out to be

705
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: like worth pick fifty. I'm not saying it was a

706
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: mistake because they were desperate. They had to get a

707
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: left tackle. They didn't have a choice. But are are

708
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: they paying this guy twenty million dollars a year? I

709
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 1: think that's up in the air. Uh. Spielman to the Jags.

710
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: A lot of rumors flying around on the interweb that

711
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: Trent Bulky wants to hire a powerful assistant GM so

712
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: he can be more active on the field coaching guys,

713
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: something he tooriously did with San Francisco get on the field,

714
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: hands on coach guys technique. Even though he's a GM.

715
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: That's very bizarre. That should not happen. Uh. The Balky

716
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: Jack situation is a complete dumpster fire, complete dumpster fire,

717
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: Like are they gonna hire a coach? Are they just

718
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: gonna hire a coach? When do you think June July

719
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: have a training camp? Just hire your staff, see how

720
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: it goes. I feel bad for Trevor Lawrence, um, I

721
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: really do. And some of the scuttle butt out there.

722
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: I actually saw that word in a article, the scuttle

723
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: butt that Doug Peterson will probably be the next head

724
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, which you know, makes a

725
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: little sense because I do think having been around Doug

726
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: and no one Doug a little bit. He's pretty easy going.

727
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: Uh and if anyone can work with Balky, you kind

728
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: of need to have his personality. And he's also proven

729
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 1: that he can coach and he can call offensive place.

730
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean he was dialing him up against the Patriots

731
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: for a Super Bowl, right, So you kind of get

732
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: the best of both worlds for Ballky, you get to

733
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: kind of keep your juice, but you also get like

734
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: he Bunky once hired Jim tom Seula. I mean it

735
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: was they were one of the worst coach teams I've

736
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: ever seen in my entire life. So you can't do that.

737
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: This is and sometimes I think that's that hasn't necessarily happened.

738
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: He kind of did. I mean the Giants hired Joe Judge.

739
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: So sometimes when you hire these coaches that have no

740
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: business being head coaches, you get yourself fired. So at

741
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: least if you hired Doug Peterson, you've seen him work

742
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,479
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks before. He's he's a quarterback at his core. Right,

743
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: He's he played in the league, he came up, He's

744
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: been around Michael Vick, Alex Smith, Carson Wentz, Jalen Hurts like,

745
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: he's actually been around a lot, Nick Foles, a lot

746
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: of different players. Uh. I think that would make a

747
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: lot of sense for experience and also for ball Ky

748
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: just you know, keep him in a safe place. That's

749
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: his job. That everyone. I mean, all the reports are

750
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: basically like if I'm gonna work for the Jags, Bulky

751
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: has to be out. And I wonder if Doug, who

752
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: just wants to be a head coach again, like, yeah,

753
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: we're all work with Trent because not many coaching candidates,

754
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: definitely with his resume, would say that. And the Senior

755
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: Bowl is going on this weekend. I've been there a

756
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: couple of times. It's a big scouting event because you

757
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: it's not as much. You get definitely get to see

758
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: these guys on the field, right, especially guys if you're

759
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: from like North Dakota State or Fresno State. You get

760
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: to be on the field with a guy from Alabama.

761
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: Guy from Alabama gets to be on the field against

762
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: Washington State and you can kind of match up. And

763
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: just because you're from Alabama Georgia doesn't mean I mean,

764
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: for the most part, it doesn't mean you're better. But

765
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: you know, individual players, some players and other schools are better,

766
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: and you just kind of get a feel for their

767
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: athletic ability compared on the field. I'll never two guys

768
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: that really jumped out to me when I think Senior Bowl,

769
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson and Aaron Donald. They went to the Senior

770
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: Bowl their respective years and it was like, Holy Moly.

771
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously Aaron Donald at six ft tall,

772
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: was drafted whatever, has become a first ballot Hall of Famer,

773
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: one of the greatest players we've ever seen. And Lane

774
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: Johnson end up going forth. So you can go to

775
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and really really rise your stock. It's a

776
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: great time to work. The other thing though, that's key,

777
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: is they stay at these hotels and every night the

778
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: GM and the coaches and some of their executives interview

779
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: these kids. And that's a big deal, you know, because

780
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, obviously if a guy, let's just use Kenny

781
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: Pickett for example, the quarterback from and most of the quarterbacks, well,

782
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say most, it's it changes year to year,

783
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: are usually high character, good guys. I know Kenny Pickett

784
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: talking people in the league, high character guy. There's not

785
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: much to ask him about off the field. But some

786
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: of these guys have been in trouble right, arrested, suspended,

787
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: or just have question marks around their program, right, and

788
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: you get to speak to them about those questions. And

789
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: that's a powerful thing when you look eye to eye

790
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: with a guy. And I think one thing that's you know,

791
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: these zooms. Zoom has become a big part of the

792
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: draft process the last couple of years. That would be scary, man,

793
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: think talking to someone that you're gonna draft, especially in

794
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: the first couple of rounds, and your only reaction interacting

795
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: up with zoom. And this year, unlike last year, the

796
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: scouts weren't allowed in the programs like they weren't allowed

797
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: to go to the school so this is a really

798
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: really big event. Obviously, the combine is the biggest just

799
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: because of they just all the underclassmen or there and

800
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: the underclassmen the last several years make up the majority

801
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: of the first round, and the first round is were

802
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean, wherever you're investing most of your money is

803
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: where you care about the most, even though GM's and

804
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: coaches care about the middle rounds too, But just getting

805
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to guys and anyone that you

806
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: have questioned marks on, whether that be injury questions, whether

807
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: that be character questions, whether it be football questions. Sometimes

808
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: the staff might go this, this guy is just not

809
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: a very bright football player. Well get him on the board,

810
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: talk to about football, pull up some tape, ask him questions,

811
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: see what his acts. His answers are could just be

812
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: pretty basic stuff like why did you do this? Why

813
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: did you break this off at five yards and not seven?

814
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: Isn't that what you're supposed to do in your offense? Hell,

815
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: you could just make it up on the spot and

816
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: see how he'll interact react. So this is a the

817
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: draft I think Jim Naggy maybe they started with Phil Savage,

818
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: but on the UH on their lanyard. The writing is

819
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: the draft starts at the Senior Bowl or the draft

820
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,959
Speaker 1: starts at Mobile. I like that branding because it's true.

821
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: This is truly I mean, the draft starts all fall

822
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: when you know the college directors, the scouts, even the

823
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: GMS are watching college players. But it truly like, once

824
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: the executives get to meet the guys, that's when it starts.

825
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: Once the head coaches gets to talk to the kids,

826
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: that's when it starts. Because for the most part, if

827
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 1: the coach hates the kid, you know you're not gonna

828
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: force the guy on the player if he's a high

829
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: round pick, right, and vice versa. So it's it's a

830
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: time when you start kind of working through initial I

831
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: wouldn't say draft boards, but just initial draft discussions, just

832
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: surrounding the talent with the person because ultimately it's a

833
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: person people business, right, You are drafting a human being,

834
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: so you better get to know that guy. I've seen

835
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: it firsthand with forty Niners man the Deebo, Samuel fred Warner,

836
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: like George Kittle, They're best players are just high level

837
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: guys and it has served them very well. Two of

838
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: the last three years in New England, did it the

839
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: longest where it's just character matters. Now, you can't just

840
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: have a team full a choir boys. No one's looking

841
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: to do that. But you gotta get the right type guys,

842
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: players that love football. And it's cliche like, oh, of course,

843
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: not everyone loves football. Football is hard. I mean, if

844
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: you're listening to this and you just played high school football,

845
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: like high school practice is hard. Remember when I was

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Speaker 1: in high school before all these rules, like we had

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Speaker 1: double days. I'm from Sacramento, aread degrees for three straight weeks.

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Speaker 1: When I went to Fresno State, it was also before

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Speaker 1: the rules like double days aren't allowed anymore Fresno States,

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Speaker 1: like a hundred and fifteen degrees, Pat Hill, double days

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Speaker 1: three straight weeks. I felt like you were walking out

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Speaker 1: in front of a The irony of me using a

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Speaker 1: hair dryer. I have a I never used a hair dryer,

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Speaker 1: but I don't have hair anymore. If you just put

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Speaker 1: the hair dryer and I only get them now when

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Speaker 1: I go, uh, you know, to a hotel or you know,

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Speaker 1: if you know, Lady Smith's night or whatever. But you

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Speaker 1: press the hair dryer and you put it in your face,

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Speaker 1: it's all warm that's what it feels like a Fresno,

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Speaker 1: you know, or Sacramento when it is a hundred and

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Speaker 1: twelve degrees practicing double days. Double days aren't even allowed.

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Speaker 1: So you got you really got to find out who

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Speaker 1: likes football, the competitive character. It's a fun part of

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Speaker 1: the draft. Like to me, the thing that I really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed once I got to be a West Coast scout

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Speaker 1: is really digging into the players. It's like whatever you

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Speaker 1: do now, if you're good at your job, you know,

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Speaker 1: like the back of your hand, right, if you know

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Speaker 1: you're in a certain industry, you just know all the

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Speaker 1: ins and outs of everything you know on a job

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Speaker 1: side of a product, whatever you're doing. Like when you're

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Speaker 1: a scout, you just especially when you have a region. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I have a bunch of buddies that

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Speaker 1: are now college directors. You gotta know the details on

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Speaker 1: every single player, every single player who can potentially play right,

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Speaker 1: even some of the guys you don't like. If you

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Speaker 1: know they're gonna get drafted, you better know that guy

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Speaker 1: because you're general manager and your coach are gonna want

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Speaker 1: to know about him, and mainly your owner. Why did uh,

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Speaker 1: why did the Steelers take this guy in the second round.

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Speaker 1: We had a fifth round grade on him. It's one thing,

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Speaker 1: it's like the Jags take them whatever, but like have

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Speaker 1: have have the Steelers take that guy in the second round.

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Speaker 1: You had a sixth round grade on us. See if

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Speaker 1: you get some weird looks, because you will. Well you know, coach,

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Speaker 1: you know it happens. Everybody happens everybody. You can't like

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Speaker 1: every player, but I really enjoy, and I still do,

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Speaker 1: getting to know the person. Getting to know the players, um,

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Speaker 1: like really their their story, their backstory, Um, what makes

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Speaker 1: him tick? I love that ship. Appreciate everyone listening, Have

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Speaker 1: a great weekend. Talk soon else the volume