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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, I'm gaily sure and this is too much

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Speaker 1: to say asking question. Tell it out you For this

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Speaker 1: week's episode, I'm going to be drinking white wine because

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling really fucking chaotic. So TikTok has been really

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Speaker 1: fun this week. I've been uploading some unreleased original songs.

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Speaker 1: If you guys are interested in what I'm doing musically,

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Speaker 1: people and the characters in my life have from being

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Speaker 1: I have had to think about this a lot because

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Speaker 1: I put people's names and songs I put places I

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Speaker 1: talk about my family. It's it's very very obvious. If

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Speaker 1: you could pretty easily put together who some of them

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Speaker 1: But before I released Open Book, I had to call

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Speaker 1: before it came out. She's not I don't think about

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Speaker 1: because I have a weird relationship with my dad. On

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Speaker 1: To be fair, he also wrote songs about me, though,

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Speaker 1: I learned, But what I really wanted to talk about

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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, Argentina it is. You suggested it,

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Speaker 1: me White Wine bitch here on too much to say.

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Speaker 1: You guys are amazing. Um. I think I'll be doing

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Speaker 1: I'm really really enjoying everything about this podcast. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for learning to me, bitch. And I'm Gila Short and

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Speaker 1: me questions. Yes, I've got to us say. Now turn

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