WEBVTT - Episode 12 - Escape

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<v Speaker 1>The hardest thing I had to do was to face

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<v Speaker 1>my father. Was that the last time he spoke to

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<v Speaker 1>your father? That was the last time I seen him. Meant,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we even left. Was like a headship

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the silence, and he stood there, sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>in the dark when he just walked away. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember that. When we were in a way to train

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<v Speaker 1>or something and we were driving away from my subdivision,

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<v Speaker 1>I seen him driving on the street. I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to see him. He didn't see me, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to see him. He was going one way and

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to the other. In retrospect, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like that was the lifehouse leaning to what I was

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<v Speaker 1>going was when he was literally cool the other way.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Curtis Saint Jackson, and this is surviving our topo.

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<v Speaker 1>It's once you brought down the drug lie. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we've all experienced these situations in life, maybe not to

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<v Speaker 1>this extreme, but where everything is pulling you in one

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<v Speaker 1>direction in your heart, you feel like you need to

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<v Speaker 1>go in another direction, so you do what's right for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter and Jay's father was their mentor in life. He

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<v Speaker 1>taught him everything they knew about the drug trade. And

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<v Speaker 1>how not to get caught someone you're supposed to love.

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<v Speaker 1>Unconditioning now telling you that trying to do things the

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<v Speaker 1>right way is actually the wrong thing. For most kids,

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<v Speaker 1>spending times with their dad is playing ball on the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>But for the Flores twins, it was doing drug rounds

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<v Speaker 1>across the Mexican border, packaging weed and the gas tanks

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<v Speaker 1>and unintentionally being a cover story to distract authorities from

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<v Speaker 1>suspicious activities. After wrestling with it for twenty years, they

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<v Speaker 1>were finally in a position where they had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to write a new path for the Flora. Is now

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks after the top of recording, and we get

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<v Speaker 1>a car to Sunday. Our attorney wants a thought to

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<v Speaker 1>us at early right ten eleven the morning around there.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you know, the US attorney wants to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you. He said, he wants you guys to train

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in today. I won't even go looking into it,

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<v Speaker 1>like wow, reality just hit us. Huh what I remember

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<v Speaker 1>our attorney like he was more than our attorney, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was he was like he was family. And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember he sat there quiet and he was like, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you guys don't have to do this. I want

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<v Speaker 1>you guys to think about this. I remember, they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's too late for that. We talked to the d

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<v Speaker 1>A and he said, you know, guys, it's time. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't risk you guys anymore, and all this would be

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<v Speaker 1>for nothing if something happens to you guys, and we

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<v Speaker 1>want you guys to train your stuff into hours two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he gave you two hours nights And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what about our family whatever, they're like guys like you

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<v Speaker 1>guys got to get them out of there. And basically

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't the problem. We were like fucking like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were upset like that, we were not being told

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<v Speaker 1>these things that were like last minute, we're the ones

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle, Like we're the ones there, Like what

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<v Speaker 1>then do you mean two hours? Like what's your plan? Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't tell you anything. I remember he also said, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people here betting that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are not going to do it. This has never been done.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't even believe what they had. They didn't believe

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<v Speaker 1>that we're gonna change your life. They didn't believe we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna turn ourselves in. I was confused, I was lost,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like now I was actually taking it in.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't concerned about nothing else but about my well,

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<v Speaker 1>my kids. One of the hardest things I've ever had

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<v Speaker 1>to endure in my life, Like that hurt me. That

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<v Speaker 1>I could replain my mind over and over again, and

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<v Speaker 1>I did for twelve years, was actually like saying goodbye

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<v Speaker 1>to my family. The day I treat myself, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I was abandoning the oka. I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing something good, right and I'm walking. I'm leaving

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<v Speaker 1>them harm's way. I went and I told, Wow, it's time.

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<v Speaker 1>They asked me to turn myself in. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I understood. I think that was more in shock. We

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<v Speaker 1>never knew how long it was gonna last, but we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think it would come that fast. We had no

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<v Speaker 1>exit plan. I didn't know what we were supposed to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just wanted to like survival mode two hours,

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<v Speaker 1>like oh my god. We had cameras all around the house.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to get the security footage out. We have

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<v Speaker 1>to get an anything with their name on it out.

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<v Speaker 1>When we leave, the cartel is going to come and

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna go through our whole house and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try to find us anything that had her name on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just trying to get my son's per certificates and papers

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<v Speaker 1>and like trying to find everything that was just important.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried about them finding us and papers and like

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<v Speaker 1>anything with their name addresses back in the States, like Chico.

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<v Speaker 1>I can lead them to anything. Yes, pictures. I was

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<v Speaker 1>grabbing all the frames off the walls and just ripping

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures out of the frames because I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>them to have pictures of us. Everyone like, what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck is going on? Who is everyone? Like? The work is?

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<v Speaker 1>What were you saying? And they said, boss man, she

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<v Speaker 1>wants She says she'd leave me what she's my and

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<v Speaker 1>she wouldn't be okay, sick. Why she's thinking something? Who

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<v Speaker 1>knows to leave her? And they're seeing her like practically

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<v Speaker 1>tear the house up, and they're like trying to help

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<v Speaker 1>her anything, and just like okay, like I remember tone

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<v Speaker 1>of go bring bring the car. She wants to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even concentrating on that journey. I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm not there with her. You know, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>had my son, you known people carrying him. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>anything I'm doing, I'm trying to spend those last precious moments. Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just chaotic. Yeah, we have babies. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>Peter and the coming over the house. I'll think it

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<v Speaker 1>right next door and they're there with my niece and

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<v Speaker 1>and they was sitting there in shock, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>like running around the house, just running through the house.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm looking at her like why is she so calm?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is she not doing what I'm doing. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>fucking find us. Why is she just sitting there? And

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm going to every chore, every piece of paper,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking like every picture, every video tape from the

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<v Speaker 1>security footage, ripping everything on the walls. I'm just acting crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>just like where's the kids, burth certificates? How do we

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<v Speaker 1>even cross the border? Our kids were like born in Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>and we didn't know how we were going to get

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<v Speaker 1>our kids across the border and venn that they stage.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew that we all be killed. I just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even take in that Jay's leaving in two hours. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just I wasn't crying. I was just running around

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<v Speaker 1>the house and I didn't even take it in. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I didn't been the last two hours of

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<v Speaker 1>my husband. I think it was like maybe ten minutes

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<v Speaker 1>saying goodbye. It's all, thank God, because I was just

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<v Speaker 1>so busy trying to think, trying to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be okay. What did you say to each

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<v Speaker 1>other in the ten minutes that you had together. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we said much. I just we're not in at

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<v Speaker 1>each other. And just that's when the tears just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop coming down. Think I could talk our son. He

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<v Speaker 1>was two years old, and he knew something was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>He was Jay shadow. He followed Jay around like everybody

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<v Speaker 1>with every time they saw Jay, like they knew that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to see her son with him, and they

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<v Speaker 1>would make a joke and call him a mom because

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<v Speaker 1>they My son just wanted to be with him. Everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be in the bathroom, my son will be sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there reading him to come out at the door. And

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<v Speaker 1>if Jay would try going anywhere, like he was just

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<v Speaker 1>tied to his leg. And he said something was wrong

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<v Speaker 1>because he was just seeing me running, running running, and

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<v Speaker 1>Jake crying and Peter crying and baby crying, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was just looking around and I just didn't understand what

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<v Speaker 1>was happening. I remember carrying my kids and my baby.

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<v Speaker 1>He was only two months old, and he was just staring.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you say anything to him? And I was just whispering.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just whispering to him, like I remember saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like I love you guys, and I'm sorry. And I

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<v Speaker 1>had been whispering to them in the air when I

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<v Speaker 1>would put him to bed because I already knew, like

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<v Speaker 1>I I would I just apologize and that and I

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<v Speaker 1>knew myself was going to be the one that was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna affected the most. And you know, just able to

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<v Speaker 1>take the moment and just it was weird, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I am thinking I'm doing something for them. I know, Mary,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's like as a parent, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>when you always struggle when you think you're doing something

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<v Speaker 1>good for them, that they that's gonna make them suffer

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but it's the best thing for him.

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<v Speaker 1>And just just taking a little moment where I was

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<v Speaker 1>just holding tighten, you know, that was important to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't even thinking about prison and I was just

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<v Speaker 1>thinking more like I wasn't going to be there. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all I could think of. You know, the Government's calling

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<v Speaker 1>and back and forth. It's just they were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like pressing this a little bit like you guys gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to meet, you know, and at this time and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't tell anybody to make sure you guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>how they were more worried about that bringing the recordings

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Did you still feel that you were doing

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing in that moment? I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>do know this that when it was time for me

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<v Speaker 1>to go and I say goodbye to so now we

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<v Speaker 1>were tears and right say goodbye to my work is

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<v Speaker 1>over there with us, m h by. Someone let me go,

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<v Speaker 1>tellus that was struck. You kind of get him off me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember just be emotional, just jumping truck. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't hear my sun screaming dad. When I took the truck,

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<v Speaker 1>like I questioned it to people, talk away from val

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<v Speaker 1>leave from there, you know. And in no time did

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<v Speaker 1>she say, like you know, don't you know? I think

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<v Speaker 1>we said to each other, it's gonna be all right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kinda gonna do this. You're gonna be fine. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like h m, we're gonna be find We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get to this. It was something it was it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel right. It just it just didn't feel right. It

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<v Speaker 1>just it just awful wrong. And I wasn't saying nothing, no,

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<v Speaker 1>It's just nodding no, it's just nodding my head back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth, like I just wanted to say no, don't go,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't. I was just nodding. I just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel right. My son hat his scream, like his cry,

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<v Speaker 1>like like we've never heard that from him, We've never

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<v Speaker 1>heard that from him. And then Peter were there and

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<v Speaker 1>they were just like blasting on in tears because I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it was like a cry of like pain and suffering.

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<v Speaker 1>He was hanging on the door and I was like

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<v Speaker 1>he was trying to open the door, trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>wait from the door because I didn't want the people

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<v Speaker 1>outside to know that they're dead left because like I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want them to report in fact there was something

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the house because there was always security

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<v Speaker 1>around and I didn't know who to trust. H h.

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<v Speaker 1>That day they had started to raid these houses that

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<v Speaker 1>we're in l A, these stash houses and all these

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<v Speaker 1>things were already in motion. Can I remember getting that

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<v Speaker 1>call from like one of our associates saying, job, they

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<v Speaker 1>just hit the houses in l A. And I was like, ship,

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<v Speaker 1>I was still there in Mexico, still like clean up

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<v Speaker 1>our pictures, like taking this stuff that we didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to leave behind. It was so difficult to be thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about all the stuff I had unfinished, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>like that I wouldn't have to leave viv and the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>my baby and our family there, and that we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really have that plan set up and mente that like

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<v Speaker 1>it was like in our minds but not like that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was sad. Man, it was hard. It was hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think you didn't have that plan even

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<v Speaker 1>though you knews come in. I didn't want to have

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<v Speaker 1>a plan. I wanted to like continue a lie to

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<v Speaker 1>myself and not feel that was will be taken away

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<v Speaker 1>from the people I love most. A so sad and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I couldn't even hope back my tears that

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<v Speaker 1>one of the last things I did was change my

0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:28.399
<v Speaker 1>daughter's diaper, and I can still imagine that they're like

0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.000
<v Speaker 1>laying it down in that guests bedroom to change the

0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:35.359
<v Speaker 1>diapend I could still like see blurry from the tears

0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.840
<v Speaker 1>of her life that I heard so bad to leave Viana.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a terrible, terrible day for our family, just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to reassure everyone day, I don't think you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be good. Yeah, the conversation with my dad, and you

0:17:55.040 --> 0:18:01.720
<v Speaker 1>will never forget just so much, you know, I think

0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.520
<v Speaker 1>for like trying to motivate me, keep me positive about

0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.720
<v Speaker 1>something that sheep I was dealing with so much on

0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:12.359
<v Speaker 1>her own. But it was hard because nobody was telling me, okay,

0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:17.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, like you're doing the right thing. You know,

0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:22.720
<v Speaker 1>everybody seemed to be against it. What else dealing with

0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:29.000
<v Speaker 1>It's so hard, you know, she seeing her seen the baby,

0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.440
<v Speaker 1>like giving it back to bit. It was so hard.

0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:34.400
<v Speaker 1>And then like thinking like I'm trying to tell my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, it's you know, we're gonna have to get

0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.400
<v Speaker 1>ready to going. Remember here my little nephew christ so bad,

0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:44.600
<v Speaker 1>like he just felt something. What was the last thing

0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.240
<v Speaker 1>you said to reach other. I don't think that we

0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.240
<v Speaker 1>even talked as much, you know, I don't think that

0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:55.919
<v Speaker 1>the tears allowed us to two let her, let us

0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.800
<v Speaker 1>say our goodbyes. I didn't want to say goodbye to

0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:04.920
<v Speaker 1>It was scary to think that, you know that, And

0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I can't like losing her my family and everything and

0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:19.600
<v Speaker 1>just trying to you know, scary toll known from for

0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:27.920
<v Speaker 1>me and my brother as well, you know, and I'm

0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.119
<v Speaker 1>looking at it to them, she was always worth it.

0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:32.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that. I'm glad I did it for her.

0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Glad it was her, Like she's the only person that

0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:38.960
<v Speaker 1>would have probably ever I have been able to get

0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:42.560
<v Speaker 1>me into something crazy like that. But walking away from

0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.600
<v Speaker 1>my supposed to be terrible. I mean, like I said,

0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:52.600
<v Speaker 1>like drowning emotional feelings and how would happen? And honestly,

0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I could tell you right now that I was always

0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:59.320
<v Speaker 1>leaving her behind. She was in the front of everything,

0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, like she was like not behind me, but

0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:06.320
<v Speaker 1>more in front of me and my future. You know.

0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.760
<v Speaker 1>That's what I was searching for, like like I'm gonna

0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:12.120
<v Speaker 1>go face these nightmare to like beet with her again. Yeah,

0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:19.120
<v Speaker 1>but when you concerned that you got in that car

0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:24.520
<v Speaker 1>with the agents and then what if somebody found out

0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and it was all that because they weren't protected. Yeah,

0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I was upset that they didn't have like an escape

0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:34.800
<v Speaker 1>plan with my family. They just only concerned was get

0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:38.399
<v Speaker 1>the two witnesses that and there was no like exit

0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:41.480
<v Speaker 1>strategy for none of us sat there. I remember thinking

0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:45.080
<v Speaker 1>like them, like they look go now like don't wait,

0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:47.440
<v Speaker 1>go now, Like you know, I'm saying, go down the

0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:51.960
<v Speaker 1>plane and go. It was a bunch of us and

0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:54.959
<v Speaker 1>then I mean there was no flights. I mean they

0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.639
<v Speaker 1>told us the same day. We see this, you like

0:20:57.720 --> 0:20:59.880
<v Speaker 1>thinking about we left food on the table. Yeah, we're

0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:03.560
<v Speaker 1>at everything in the ever our clothes, every piece of

0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.200
<v Speaker 1>garments and clothes and all kinds of stuff. We just

0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:09.920
<v Speaker 1>left everything. I took my baby and her diaper bag,

0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:12.240
<v Speaker 1>and I was just like sitting on a sofa, like

0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:16.680
<v Speaker 1>just we left our dream home, you know, lost without him.

0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know. I'm like, I just I just

0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:22.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get the heart out of there. I just

0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:24.399
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get out of there. And it was just

0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:28.040
<v Speaker 1>so many of us, and everyone's like scrambling around, and

0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just sitting there just with my one little diaper

0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:32.919
<v Speaker 1>bag and just saying, They're like, let's get out of here.

0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:44.040
<v Speaker 1>We come to the trap to any things? Did you

0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:51.680
<v Speaker 1>guys mean the recorders? I guess, And we were emotional,

0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:56.520
<v Speaker 1>It's okay, we're doing the right thing. And they started

0:21:56.600 --> 0:22:06.600
<v Speaker 1>trying towards the airport. How many kinds of just too

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:13.600
<v Speaker 1>And we go to airport and we went on to

0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:16.040
<v Speaker 1>like the private side where the private planes are in.

0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:20.680
<v Speaker 1>There's a hangar and the military has a checkpoint and

0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:23.320
<v Speaker 1>they access to school down. They don't want to know

0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:28.000
<v Speaker 1>what to see us, and they showed the diplomatic ideas

0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and they let us in. And we drove into this

0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:39.440
<v Speaker 1>like hangar where there's an officer. I don't want he

0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:42.160
<v Speaker 1>was military what it was, but he was actually there.

0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:46.280
<v Speaker 1>We stood in the truck, but they got off and

0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.639
<v Speaker 1>they had the lights off, and I remember they were

0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:54.400
<v Speaker 1>looking at the federal police and they're hiding from them.

0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:58.720
<v Speaker 1>It said, told me that didn't trust them me and

0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:01.960
<v Speaker 1>they're hiding from their actually driving buyer walking by it.

0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a live federal police and they're focusing

0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:08.840
<v Speaker 1>on there's one plane. There was kind of big one booze,

0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:19.920
<v Speaker 1>probably planing and driving buyer walking by it. You know,

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:23.480
<v Speaker 1>there's a live federal police and they're focusing on there's

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:26.600
<v Speaker 1>one plane. There was kind of big one booze probably

0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 1>plane and wearing the dark and the hangar. We stood

0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 1>there for like a long time, probably now we're in

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 1>a half and then between them just calling bounces, have

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you left it? Have you left it? It's those type

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:50.359
<v Speaker 1>of conversations are you okay? And she would be like

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:54.480
<v Speaker 1>they're asking for you, and I ask you for you.

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to turn jail with the Chiel by time

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to meet someone in so helpless. So I

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:08.680
<v Speaker 1>started having a little bit anger, Like I'm having anger

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 1>because I'm sitting this bulletproof truck with them and our

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:14.879
<v Speaker 1>family is over there, like this is for them, me

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:19.919
<v Speaker 1>being in dangerous one thing. And I was disappointed myself.

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I was I was angry. It's just like nerve wracking.

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Like I think I'm always how mentally strong, I just

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 1>can't even so many thoughts and many things coming to

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:37.920
<v Speaker 1>my my mind, and our phones are ringing ringing. A

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>couple of cousin is calling because they just had rated

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>one of them their stash houses in l A and

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:48.399
<v Speaker 1>they'd like, Kate, check on your guys. They just hit

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:54.879
<v Speaker 1>one of the houses. No, it's us that was getting

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 1>as upset because we're still in Mexico. They had started

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>like an operation that was the first house to hit

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 1>that go to so many houses I think in Mexico,

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and we're still sitting in Mexico. I wasn't don't stop ringing.

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>We literally get bad or they don't stop ringing. We

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 1>weren't even paying attention to you know. I had people

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:31.200
<v Speaker 1>that are calling me like those our antec and it's okay, No,

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:33.959
<v Speaker 1>she's she's all right, and she's upset, she's don't be right,

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>she's packing up a car. Leave her leaver. Are you

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>sure you want me to go ahead? No? No, no leaving,

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 1>just making fit up. That was just the worst night, Marcus,

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>the worst night might could think of, and the worst price.

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:56.639
<v Speaker 1>I felt like we were doing it. We were doing it,

0:25:56.800 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>we were the cause. And it took a few hours.

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 1>And I remember a big plane lands and I guess

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that was a plane that we weren't going. The drivers

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>up to the plane and there's a dry whatever you do,

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 1>don't look anywhere, just go straight into a plane. Just

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to know one to see us. The

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>plane is like a cargo plane or something, because I

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:34.200
<v Speaker 1>remember has the seats this way like on a bench,

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 1>like a bench, and I remember like it was dark

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 1>like that. It was really dark inside the plane was dark.

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>So when I go, I'm the hank of nothing like

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>going on the plane and there's like twelve fourteen marshals

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 1>and agents and that they have guns on them. They

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:57.360
<v Speaker 1>have like rifles and they have guns down and turn

0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 1>the plane and they're like, hey guys, okay, you know,

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>just talking to agent. They're more like operational mode. When

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.360
<v Speaker 1>we get down, we sit down and just where where

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.639
<v Speaker 1>our phones? You know, our bag of phones and we

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>should have our bag of phones. And I didn't take

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>time for us to fly out of that. When j

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and Pa laughed, It's like I just all I could

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 1>remember was just seeing their faces. They just look so lost.

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I just sparked something in me because I knew he knew,

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 1>like there was just no plan for us. I couldn't

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 1>get their faces, like the image of their faces out

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>of my head because they're just the defeated and I

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>knew that they were just only worried about us getting

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>out safely. At that point, people are coming to the house.

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:17.479
<v Speaker 1>M hmm. They're knocking on the door. They were asking

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>from Shaye and Peter. These are the same people that

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>would be at my house every day, always there, everywhere

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:32.719
<v Speaker 1>they went. We couldn't move around the city freely at

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>that time. They had to keep tabs on them always,

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and like I just didn't know what to say, and

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>the cloud was ticking, and I'm just I'm trying to

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>get everyone together and trying to get all the stuff

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>in the car. When asking me what's wrong, what's wrong,

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like leaving. He said, you're taking a kid.

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, I'm leaving him. He's cheating on me.

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, it's not true. We would never do

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that too. Don't take the kids like this, and are

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>you going? And I'm like, baby, come with me, Baby,

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>come on, and I'm trying to cut on the show.

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I need you to come with me. I'm so free

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, what are we gonna say? Like why

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>are we both leaving at the same time I would

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>be leaving with all the kids. I didn't know what

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>to say. And I'm just like, maybe let's go. You're

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>coming with me, And she's like a lot. She's like

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>looking at me and she's just like frozen. She's not

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>saying anything like come on me, but the babies in

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the car. Come on. I got in my car and

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>she gets in her car and like just follow me.

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>And we're loading bags in the car and she's just

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 1>looking at me and she's scared. She's just nodding her

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>head and like tears in her eyes, and I'm like

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 1>get in the car. And then by that time other

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>people showed up. What's going on? And I'm like a thing.

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>And at that point, I was just looking scared. I

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>was just scared. I was scared out of my mind.

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, get out of here. So I'm like, oh

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>my god. So I'm like, okay, I'm just leaving. And

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>we just drove and I'm calling it to make sure

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>my mother in law, my father law are there, and

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 1>my nephews right there. Everybody's there like cool, like maing

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>sure that the whole family is together, and and I'm like,

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>we're driving out the subdivision right now. We want to

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>meet you on this street. We meet on the street

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>where we're going. We're going, We're going. And at that point,

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>if they've called her dad and him and my brother

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>in lawkay, they flew in to the first place we

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>went to was the airport to pick them up so

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you can help us drive back. At this point, there's

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>like eat cars following each other, and I'm like, we

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 1>look so fucked up right now. I'm scared to separate,

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>and I knew we should have separated, but I'm like,

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>there's no way, because I was just too scared to

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 1>drive alone. It's a twelve hour trip from Guadalajara to

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:52.719
<v Speaker 1>the border crossing at Larado. Every border town in Mexico

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 1>it is carton infested because these towns are so vital

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>to the massive drug phone to the US. Well, here

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>we are and novel Arrado, which is controlled by a

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 1>rival cartel, Settas, who are known to be the most

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>savage cartel in Mexico. They have committed some of the

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>most brutal acts of violence like torturing people, beheadings to capitating.

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I remember just how terrifying it was, not knowing if

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I was going to be able to get there. The

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>family were crammed into the cars val vv vv's dad

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and brother, Jane, Pete's mom and dad, Margarito Sr. The

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>older sister, older brother, Almando, and his wife, plus three teenagers,

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>a two year old, and three babies who were only

0:32:40.440 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>a few months old. The eight car convoy began its journey. Yeah, yeah,

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>h I see the plane land. First of all, the

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 1>ages are like, I didn't think you guys arena show up.

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, thanks, man, you're not helping me, Like I'm

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>broken It on and then they're hiding us through the checkpoint.

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>The military check went into the private hangars for the plane.

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Where waiting for the plane to land, and my brother

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and I heard that the plane was going towards Mexico City,

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>which is south of Gualajara. We're like, why let's go

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 1>that way. I know, for whatever reason, we had to

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>go to Mexico City first. I'm like, no, let's just

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 1>leave here, please, let's just I felt that parallel, like

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to be out of Mexico, like we're not

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:23.280
<v Speaker 1>safe here. And no, we had to go to Mexico

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.800
<v Speaker 1>City and they had like a they had rented like

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a hotel, and they had like the whole all the

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>whole hotel was like close up and there was like

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of agents, like I'm talking about like fifty

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:38.959
<v Speaker 1>sixty agents. I remember landing and I was still able

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 1>to communicate with my wife, please please leave, and what

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>are you guys waiting for? I was so piste up

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.400
<v Speaker 1>that Val was packing stuff, like what the fund is

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>wrong with this woman? And I remember like that martial

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 1>charge he seemed on the phone, that why is he

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 1>still his phone? They bring us into this hotel room

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and they surround, wasn't there like again asking those questions

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>and it was so like hectic. I we just want

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>to leave, Like my stomach hurt, I got sick. I'm

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>throwing up all the way back. They're mad at me.

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:15.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm on the plane. It's miserable they didn't take us.

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:17.760
<v Speaker 1>The next morning, I'm just like, you know, just wanting

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to leave, Like I just want to leave Mexico. You know,

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the phones are blowing up, just like extended stay a

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>little hotel crazy for about this. We have a house,

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>a stash house two blocks from there where I have

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>like three of my workers. City No, and I'm like

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the fuck. And I guess they got a whole floor

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 1>because I remember they kind of like covered us and

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>we went up to the elevator and on the second

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 1>from the ages were actually out. They have to like

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 1>right for in their hands. They have a part of

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:07.320
<v Speaker 1>the whole floor hotel rooms and they put us in

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>this room and a bunch of Marshall's coming. There's like

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:16.320
<v Speaker 1>four agents and Marshall's in there with us. So it's like,

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, they've got two beds and it's like they're

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.359
<v Speaker 1>just sitting on the on the bed in different places

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 1>of me and my brother Peters are sitting on the

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>bed and we're kind of talking to each other like lane,

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, like what's going to remember He's showing me

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 1>that the top was cousin and and then here calling

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:38.240
<v Speaker 1>like they don't stop calling, and you said, didn't answer,

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 1>checking up on ball. By the time we got to

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the room back, I had said that she was on

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the road, which it was like a big relief. I mean,

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 1>it was relief that she was on the road, but

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 1>it was like I think they were traveling like eight

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>year nine a Carol eight or nine cars, all Lusry

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 1>vehicles going to a enemy territory. That was scary to me,

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't even say it, like what was I

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:10.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna do? It was like a risk anywhere, like any

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>turn we talk, it was risky. And I just kept

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 1>calling her. It was just like where are you because

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 1>she was not gonna have phone service, right, and please

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 1>call me every times you get please call me, I

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>would asked her the baby, right, I was exhausted, I

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.840
<v Speaker 1>could have those off. It was late and I be

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 1>then I put those of them and I waking up

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and I had no calls. That worried me. It worried me,

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 1>like it was like five six some money, no calls,

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I remember beginning up in the Marshal was a

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of somewhere up so dozing off and I'm just

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 1>like I'm gonna just wash up. I remember, like I'm

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna shower, you know, complete my last free shower, right

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and because I don't know what we're happening, was happening

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:18.360
<v Speaker 1>right before that anything, they're not saying nothing, and the

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:22.760
<v Speaker 1>bounds of colleague and she was like like more closer

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to a border and that was like a sense of relief.

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:28.879
<v Speaker 1>She like me, drove to the night. You know, I'm

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 1>so tired. What are we gonna do that? Listen, just

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:36.399
<v Speaker 1>drive to a border. Just drive straight to a border.

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Just when you get to just explained to you know

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:40.400
<v Speaker 1>who we are. And I think we were making calls

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 1>like you know, my brother Mano, I wasn't born in

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the US, so he can't just come across my father.

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>It's in the same situation. I hate the future. Oh

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.880
<v Speaker 1>was trying to make cause and closed so like to

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 1>our journey to you know, trying to use the I

0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>want going to do. We could do guys, like you know,

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're paying tingents that I understand that

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 1>they had like going out, but their main focused was

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>me and my brother as it's always been, right like

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 1>everyone else, just you know, their easy way out is

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 1>like they always have the easiest plan, like no feelings

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 1>too bad. And I get it right, I guess they're

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>not concerned about our family, concern about their owner, their

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>case or whatever the case is. And since they want

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to think all we would say like this is for

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>our family, they have to be the center of you know.

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I always thought that they would understand that, and now

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 1>just a bunch of cause and just cares. Once it

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>was like nineteen in the morning, we left the hotel

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.839
<v Speaker 1>and they take us back to the hangar and now

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, like it's alive, right, people everywhere, workers,

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 1>you know. I guess it's like a cargo type of

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 1>airport in that sections, like just all kinds of people.

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>So they literally they needs in the truck. I'll take

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 1>you for like at least two hours. We're sitting there

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 1>in the truck, nervous, right, and we're still calls. We're

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 1>tired and and I know that valand I'm going to

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>all to a hotel almost too scared. It's just me

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>in the car with my two babies in the back.

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 1>It looked like this whole like entourage. And we had

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 1>to drive well the hours to get to the border.

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I would drive to the border all the time, so

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I knew the roads and you'll like the back of

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.800
<v Speaker 1>my hand. But I'm like, they gotta passed all these towns.

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>He looks so fucking crazy, and it's the night, and

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it just looked like we had flashing lights just like

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the spotlight on us. And we drove to the whole night.

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>When he stopped. We stopped one time for gas, but

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, it's cool, let's cool, let's cool, let's gool.

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 1>It was freaking out. What everyone's freaking out, and everyone's

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>confused in what do we do? I kept saying, what

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 1>do we do? Like we go, we go, we go,

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>It's cool. When I've seen him scared scared me, I

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:48.480
<v Speaker 1>think I was just more scared because I felt like,

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 1>h oh, what the fun going to? I I know

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>it just like everybody was like at me to figure

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 1>it out to be the strong one. I'm sitting there

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 1>like good, I know. I don't even have any interruption.

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>We had an old ful service. I couldn't call j

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't ask him what to do. And I just

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 1>kept going and my adrenaline was going. I wasn't even tired.

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 1>We didn't sleep, didn't care. Just let it get to

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the border. I just wanted to get there. And then

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:35.880
<v Speaker 1>my mother was like, we're gonna go to the hotel.

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 1>We knew exactly what hotel we're going to. It's the

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 1>same one we always go to. The hotel. It's right

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:42.800
<v Speaker 1>there at the border. We could literally see the border

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 1>from the hotel. And he's like, we got to go

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 1>to the border, like my dad can't. We can't cross us.

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, what do you mean. He's like, we

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 1>can't cross we have no papers. They're not gonna let us.

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Then we can't go, Like I can't leave it here.

0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>He's like, wow, we're gonna have to wait. We're gonna

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 1>have to stay. We're not gonna be able to get

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>across the border. And I'm like, then we're all going

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 1>to go to the hotel. And we went to the

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:18.879
<v Speaker 1>hotel and I remember it was early morning, still dark

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>outside and maybe like five six of the more. And

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 1>we get there. We're like okay, and then mine was like,

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna check in. I'm gonna get rooms. I'm like,

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 1>all right, we're gonna sit, we're gonna wait, and we're

0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna make sure they're gonna let us cross. They're gonna

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 1>us into the into the US. And then he's like okay.

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 1>So we go to lay down, and then not too

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 1>long afterwards, my phone is ringing, ringing, ringing, and I

0:43:55.719 --> 0:44:03.760
<v Speaker 1>jump up and it's Mandol. He's like about my nephew

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:12.360
<v Speaker 1>called his girlfriend and he told her that we were

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:18.800
<v Speaker 1>at the border, and I'm like, how would he do that?

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Why would he do that? He's making I'm nope, he's

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 1>talking to his girlfriend and he was telling her by

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and he said that we're at the border and I'm like,

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna know, we're here. We gotta go. He's like,

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I know, we all got up. I think we weren't

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 1>even there for a half hour. I'm like, we gotta go,

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 1>we gotta go. You can't be kicked in, no, we're here.

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Kind of paranoid because my nephew's girlfriend, her family's in

0:44:56.760 --> 0:45:06.879
<v Speaker 1>the cartel. Yeah, I mean, he's like, we can't eat

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 1>mon though, Like they're gonna switch hotels. We've gotta get

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 1>out of here. I'm even switch hotels. So as we're

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:23.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna leave, I'm so nervous and scared that I remember

0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 1>that I hit the side of the it's safety sopiz,

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of like slows you down. I hit

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:32.239
<v Speaker 1>this tide. It was like a steel one and it

0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:38.440
<v Speaker 1>justesn't ripped my tire off the rim. And so we're

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the street, on the busy street.

0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 1>We could see the borders. They got the next stop right,

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, the fucking tire, the fucking tire. So

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 1>my nephews jumped out and their model jumped out and

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:57.320
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to jack the car up and put the

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 1>spare tire on and O He's like, let's go, let's go,

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 1>let's go. And I was like, no, I can't eat

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the car. Get this one's under my name. That car

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 1>was under my name. It can't beat the car. She's like,

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:18.200
<v Speaker 1>look that car. Let's going. Like no, they're going, we're going,

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:21.320
<v Speaker 1>And they're like hurrying up and it's dark but the

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 1>sun is starting to come up, and then they're like, no,

0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 1>we got it. We got Le's goal. We got it.

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.640
<v Speaker 1>So then we jumped back in the cars and mind you,

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 1>we're like in the middle of the street at this point,

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and we just look so fucking crazy because there was

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 1>just so much commotion going up and so can we

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 1>drive up to the border and we get there and

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 1>they asked us for our papers and I'm giving them

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:56.800
<v Speaker 1>my passport, I'm giving them kids papers. I was like

0:46:57.160 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the first one ticket there. They're like hold on, hold on,

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:03.759
<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, go, go, go, go go. And they

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 1>were like stop, Low, you can't come in. Stop what

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:09.839
<v Speaker 1>are you doing now? And I'm like, no, you gotta

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 1>let us in. They're coming for coming out the office

0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 1>and they're like stop and I'm like no, they're gonna

0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>kill us. I jump out of the car and say baby,

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and she's sitting in the car freaking out. And then

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 1>he's like, you can't come in. You can't come in,

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and you gotta wait. Everyone gotta wait. I was like, no,

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 1>we can't wait. We gotta go in. He was like no.

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Nobody moved the cars and at this point we're all

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 1>lined up and if the cars are stuck, and I'm like,

0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna kill us. They're gonna fucking kill us. You've

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:50.960
<v Speaker 1>gotta come. You called called Chicago, call the day, called

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the U. S. Government, like, go us some when they're

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna kill us. We gotta get out of here now.

0:47:56.440 --> 0:48:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And they were like what A pulled to the side,

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:06.359
<v Speaker 1>so they allow the cars to come through. They pull

0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:10.359
<v Speaker 1>us aside and we're past the first light, but they're

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 1>just the second light that we can't come through. We're

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:16.800
<v Speaker 1>just called to that side. And then I'm like listen,

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I said, we have to get out of the country.

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 1>We have to get back to the US. Were US

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:24.800
<v Speaker 1>citizens and they're like, well, where's o the papers to

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 1>make my kids they were born in Mexico. And they're like, well,

0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 1>they can't come in because if you don't have the

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:36.719
<v Speaker 1>right paperworker said, no, you don't understand. You don't understand

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:39.719
<v Speaker 1>where U. S. Citizens My son is. He's a U.

0:48:39.800 --> 0:48:43.719
<v Speaker 1>S citizen. He's got dual citizenship just by me being

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the U. S citizen. He's a US citizen. I just

0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 1>don't have the paperworking yet. But they can come in.

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:54.279
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, no, we have to make phone calls.

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 1>And we're calling. We're calling Milwaukee, we're calling lawyers, were

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:02.320
<v Speaker 1>calling everyone that we could pass it call and I

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:06.440
<v Speaker 1>remember my phone ringing. I don't know if Jake and

0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:08.879
<v Speaker 1>in contact with someone or what, but my phone rings

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:13.399
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like hello. They're like, this says I think

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 1>his name is Matt. He's the one that was in

0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 1>charge his use attorney from walking. He's like, listen, it's okay.

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Can like, you know, we're stuck here and they don't

0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 1>want to let us it and my kids don't have

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 1>papers and we don't know what to do. You have

0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:30.880
<v Speaker 1>to tell them that you have to let us come in.

0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:35.359
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, yes, don't worry. You need to calm down.

0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 1>You need to calm down. Everyone has to calm down.

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Just listen to me what I'm telling you. And I'm

0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 1>like what. He was like, We're gonna take you into

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the office and you're gonna show them all the paperwork

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:56.719
<v Speaker 1>you have, and they're gonna let you come in. Making

0:49:56.800 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 1>phone calls, we're calling. Do you see we're calling? They're

0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to let you guys in. And I'm like okay,

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:07.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, but and you it's cuts right. He's like, yeah,

0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:11.160
<v Speaker 1>you guys are okay. You guys are gonna be fine,

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I promise. And I'm like okay, So I hang up

0:50:15.160 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm like, baby, get out the cars. Come on,

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:19.399
<v Speaker 1>let's get out the cars. We're going into the office

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:21.600
<v Speaker 1>with the kids and it was like cold outside, I remember,

0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:27.239
<v Speaker 1>and we're taking the babies inside. We get in there

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, here's our papers, this is what we have.

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:34.040
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, do you have any guns on you?

0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any money and you And I'm like what.

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like no. They're like, okay, well we just have

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 1>to ask and we need all the keys of the

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:49.120
<v Speaker 1>cars because we had to put the cars on the

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:51.439
<v Speaker 1>X ray machines to make sure that you can guys

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 1>are not bringing anything back with you. I'm like, going,

0:50:53.800 --> 0:51:00.920
<v Speaker 1>fucking kidding me, Just let us in and they were like, oh,

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 1>we just have that. This is routine. I'm like, it's

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:07.400
<v Speaker 1>not routines. What I called back the U. S. Attorney

0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:11.680
<v Speaker 1>from alwalking and I'm like this is bullshit, Like what's happening?

0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Why are they doing this? Was like, can they just medicine?

0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 1>He was like, it's routine. They have to just they

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:22.759
<v Speaker 1>have to search the car. They have to make sure

0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:26.759
<v Speaker 1>that nobody's bringing nothing back. I was like, I said,

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 1>you don't understand. My brother in law, my father in law,

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:31.880
<v Speaker 1>my mother in law is still back at the border.

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:36.680
<v Speaker 1>My nephew called girlfriend, that's a switch hotels, like they

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:42.000
<v Speaker 1>know we're here. Thanks. He's just held them to medicine.

0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry, you're gonna be coming in. They just need

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:52.000
<v Speaker 1>to like check everything first. And at that point I knew,

0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I just knew this was our life. It didn't matter

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 1>whatever Champagne didn't properated. I knew at that point that

0:52:05.400 --> 0:52:09.359
<v Speaker 1>we are always going to be treated that way. They

0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:14.200
<v Speaker 1>were going to always look at us like criminals. I

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:19.279
<v Speaker 1>knew it, and I just I felt like we need

0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:25.680
<v Speaker 1>such a huge mistake. I just felt like, these are

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:30.759
<v Speaker 1>the people are supposed to be helping us, These are

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the people are supposed to be keeping us safe. You

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:40.919
<v Speaker 1>felt like you've made a huge mistake by the corporation. Yeah,

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:45.640
<v Speaker 1>because no matter what, they were never gonna never in mind,

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:49.280
<v Speaker 1>you had a six week old baby in your arms

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 1>to the point I was two year old. I must

0:52:55.239 --> 0:53:07.400
<v Speaker 1>have been really distressing. Yeah. I didn't understand why agents

0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:12.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't allow member them at all. My father in law,

0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand why they didn't let them come in.

0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand why I didn't make a cause. I

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:21.319
<v Speaker 1>didn't understand why they didn't do anything to help us.

0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand. My brother laws out there for two days,

0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:31.760
<v Speaker 1>three days before they could help him, and I remember

0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:36.400
<v Speaker 1>when they finally let us through, I was just like,

0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:59.360
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, we fucking made it. H kind of

0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:02.719
<v Speaker 1>believing make the city. They put us on. They have

0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:06.320
<v Speaker 1>like a big private jet. We're on the plane with

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:08.879
<v Speaker 1>a few agents, one than being the agent for the gym.

0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:14.080
<v Speaker 1>He tells me, he said, this is just so crazy.

0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:19.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm like what he said, you know, my whole family

0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 1>knows you. I said, huh. He said, you grew up

0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:29.200
<v Speaker 1>in twenty six straight and my family has a business

0:54:29.239 --> 0:54:31.839
<v Speaker 1>that you would go to. He didn't want to tell

0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 1>me what business, Like I knew you as a kid,

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:42.080
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, like, you know, I spent the

0:54:42.160 --> 0:54:44.719
<v Speaker 1>time like just giving him different businesses that you know.

0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a hardware story. I just have

0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:50.360
<v Speaker 1>a feeling he was just asking me questions, you know.

0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:53.320
<v Speaker 1>But it's weird because he was asking us questions but

0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:57.200
<v Speaker 1>about about our life, but not because I was cooperating.

0:54:57.239 --> 0:55:00.400
<v Speaker 1>It was more like talk like curious to know things

0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:05.880
<v Speaker 1>growing up on twenty six ships. My neighbor next to

0:55:05.960 --> 0:55:09.000
<v Speaker 1>me who the owner construct it was a construction company

0:55:09.120 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 1>or like electrical company. He on. The house had burnt down.

0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:15.279
<v Speaker 1>They turned it into an office and it was like

0:55:16.200 --> 0:55:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the house right next to us on the north side.

0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:24.799
<v Speaker 1>My neighbor to the north and uh, the neighbor would

0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:28.040
<v Speaker 1>always be nice to me and my brother. He would

0:55:28.080 --> 0:55:31.040
<v Speaker 1>buy us like toxicles and always talked to us. And he,

0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:32.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, his truck will roll up and he would

0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:34.520
<v Speaker 1>leave it open and go in the office, you know.

0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>And they had like a big window, and I see

0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 1>him all the time. Man, I remember his family, not

0:55:44.040 --> 0:55:47.000
<v Speaker 1>quite like I remember he had a family. I just

0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:50.840
<v Speaker 1>don't remember like back then you know their faces. But

0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:55.480
<v Speaker 1>while I was cooperating, a new agent head came into

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the the team that was like I guess was handed

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 1>in our case over the years. And I remember like

0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:08.360
<v Speaker 1>she came in to me, I felt like she looked familiar,

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:10.560
<v Speaker 1>and I just kind of like look at her. But

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess I was just used to seeing different agents.

0:56:12.880 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 1>And she said, you know my dad, And I said, huh,

0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:23.239
<v Speaker 1>like do you know my dad? Do you remember who

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:27.719
<v Speaker 1>used to buy you popsicles? When when you were a kid.

0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:32.719
<v Speaker 1>And the minute she said that, I mean maybe because

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I also knew her last name, I put it together,

0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:40.560
<v Speaker 1>he's your dad and she was like yeah, like oh

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:44.840
<v Speaker 1>my god, Like I remember being a kid and sitting

0:56:44.880 --> 0:56:47.000
<v Speaker 1>down the stairs just waiting for him to show up,

0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:49.760
<v Speaker 1>like every day, you know, around that two o'clock, especially

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:52.399
<v Speaker 1>in summertime, because she would always like, you know, crack

0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:54.719
<v Speaker 1>a joke and say hey, really nice man, you know,

0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:58.960
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, that's your dad. I grew up. But

0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 1>while I live right now see you, And I'm like, wow,

0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:08.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, like sometimes you can't make this stuff up.

0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:12.239
<v Speaker 1>She's actually probably still in as part of the case,

0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:16.120
<v Speaker 1>part of that team. And it was around because that

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:20.000
<v Speaker 1>she knows a lot of money childhood that her dad

0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:22.960
<v Speaker 1>definitely and you know, you know who my family was

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and how we grew up and here we are, you know,

0:57:29.320 --> 0:57:32.720
<v Speaker 1>so there's a chance I do see that that here's

0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:39.080
<v Speaker 1>our neighbor, right, he's an agent and we're drug traffickers.

0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 1>People do make it. People do good things. You always

0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:48.480
<v Speaker 1>are known for like the bad people, right, Like if

0:57:48.520 --> 0:57:51.880
<v Speaker 1>you think about Chicago, oh, the violence, you know, it

0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:55.120
<v Speaker 1>just seems like the negative always. It's going to be

0:57:55.280 --> 0:58:05.240
<v Speaker 1>what I would remember for how you're perceived was seing

0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that plane. I just remember like being tired, and we're

0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:14.080
<v Speaker 1>just like making small talk and we still have our phones,

0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:17.400
<v Speaker 1>wheels and stuff like that. The whole night in our

0:58:17.520 --> 0:58:21.480
<v Speaker 1>phones were just going off steadily, steadily. Everyone is calling

0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:29.160
<v Speaker 1>our workers from the States. We land in Dallas. I

0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:32.640
<v Speaker 1>remember we kind of taxi like close to another hangar.

0:58:34.920 --> 0:58:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Let me wait there for a little while, and I

0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:40.760
<v Speaker 1>see that, you know, Customs comes you know, to the

0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:45.280
<v Speaker 1>plane to bring the stairs and comes to the plane

0:58:45.320 --> 0:58:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, all right, let's get off. Weird to

0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:56.800
<v Speaker 1>feel relieved to land at Dallas Airport, To feel relieved

0:58:56.840 --> 0:59:01.160
<v Speaker 1>to land in Americas like in the USA. It was

0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:04.680
<v Speaker 1>so weird, like finally feel like, okay, we're not in Mexico,

0:59:04.800 --> 0:59:10.440
<v Speaker 1>but having that thought about where is my family. We

0:59:10.520 --> 0:59:13.760
<v Speaker 1>are walking down and I see he has our birth certificate,

0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:16.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, an I D like I D picture in

0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:20.360
<v Speaker 1>his hand. And when we land, she it's a lady.

0:59:20.400 --> 0:59:26.920
<v Speaker 1>She checks the document. Okay, and she's okay, and uh,

0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I remember I took the last step and I just

0:59:32.320 --> 0:59:34.760
<v Speaker 1>like stretching out my legs a little bit and my

0:59:34.880 --> 0:59:38.280
<v Speaker 1>brother gets behind me, and he's like okay, and they're

0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:44.600
<v Speaker 1>like all right, turn around, it's excuse me, you can

0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:49.480
<v Speaker 1>turn around, put your hand, me on your back, and

0:59:50.200 --> 0:59:59.280
<v Speaker 1>they hit me live. Put the heck sis. That was weird,

0:59:59.360 --> 1:00:03.080
<v Speaker 1>like my brother, and then looking at us like this

1:00:03.200 --> 1:00:10.280
<v Speaker 1>is their life for now on. No that goes the shackles.

1:00:12.400 --> 1:00:17.280
<v Speaker 1>They read me my rights and it's like they took

1:00:17.320 --> 1:00:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the bone. They started searching us. That was like reality

1:00:24.320 --> 1:00:31.320
<v Speaker 1>just hit me all that as came to this in

1:00:31.360 --> 1:00:33.120
<v Speaker 1>a way, I was like, well, what they expect, right,

1:00:35.400 --> 1:00:41.000
<v Speaker 1>And again I'm supposed to know this. I'm supposed to

1:00:43.120 --> 1:00:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to think about these things. And I can't

1:00:46.520 --> 1:00:48.520
<v Speaker 1>even tell you, like, yeah, you were thinking like prison,

1:00:48.600 --> 1:00:51.720
<v Speaker 1>But I didn't crossed my mind, not even that day,

1:00:51.840 --> 1:00:56.240
<v Speaker 1>not even me you know, landing. But it brought me

1:00:56.320 --> 1:01:02.240
<v Speaker 1>back to reality that no matter what, no matter what

1:01:02.360 --> 1:01:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I did, no matter how much a sacri prison, you know,

1:01:07.000 --> 1:01:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I was still gonna be, you know, a prisoner, right.

1:01:10.320 --> 1:01:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I was still I wanted person, and I was gonna

1:01:13.640 --> 1:01:18.880
<v Speaker 1>have to pay for my mistakes for sure. You know

1:01:19.000 --> 1:01:21.920
<v Speaker 1>that I'm having those ankles. I mean, they shackled me.

1:01:22.880 --> 1:01:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I do you have to shack for me,

1:01:24.720 --> 1:01:30.520
<v Speaker 1>like yes, just keep telling herself that we're doing the

1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:33.760
<v Speaker 1>right thing, asking the ages over and over, bleakly, just

1:01:33.880 --> 1:01:38.160
<v Speaker 1>checking my family. It's weird to be like yeah, expressed

1:01:38.440 --> 1:01:40.880
<v Speaker 1>like a brand and GEF five, you know you as

1:01:40.960 --> 1:01:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Marshall's jet speaking towards just take a prison. It's not

1:01:51.040 --> 1:01:53.640
<v Speaker 1>just the steel on your on your legs in hand.

1:01:53.720 --> 1:02:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's more like the meaning right that when

1:02:00.240 --> 1:02:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I think the guilt kind of started like coming and

1:02:03.480 --> 1:02:07.840
<v Speaker 1>like I have to pay right for everything I did.

1:02:11.200 --> 1:02:13.800
<v Speaker 1>So we sit there for a while, probably refield and

1:02:15.320 --> 1:02:19.560
<v Speaker 1>jump back down on the plane distempt shackled and handcuffed,

1:02:23.080 --> 1:02:26.120
<v Speaker 1>and it was just different now. The rider was different.

1:02:27.880 --> 1:02:30.480
<v Speaker 1>It's a little quieter, you know. Me and my brother,

1:02:30.960 --> 1:02:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I think we were just right that this is what

1:02:36.840 --> 1:02:39.480
<v Speaker 1>we signed up for. And we end up flying into

1:02:40.520 --> 1:02:44.480
<v Speaker 1>small airport right out north of Chicago that actually we

1:02:44.640 --> 1:02:50.760
<v Speaker 1>used before to transport money and landing the airport on

1:02:51.920 --> 1:02:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I remember when the plane landed, were looking out the

1:02:55.800 --> 1:03:00.160
<v Speaker 1>window and I just saw nothing but police lights and

1:03:00.440 --> 1:03:06.080
<v Speaker 1>lots of exacting. When the door opens, it's called like

1:03:06.320 --> 1:03:09.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it's really colder and the door opens and it's

1:03:09.840 --> 1:03:12.760
<v Speaker 1>like the ages walking. I remember tapping a foot outside

1:03:13.120 --> 1:03:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the airplane and standing there. I just see the sea

1:03:17.120 --> 1:03:22.000
<v Speaker 1>of like blue jackets like d E A U S

1:03:22.120 --> 1:03:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Marshals and I just started getting like pictures flashes, the

1:03:27.480 --> 1:03:31.000
<v Speaker 1>pictures being taken and when I saw the cards and

1:03:31.120 --> 1:03:33.360
<v Speaker 1>like all the agents in marsh was just like staring

1:03:33.440 --> 1:03:37.080
<v Speaker 1>at us. I think it was the first time I

1:03:37.200 --> 1:03:44.280
<v Speaker 1>ever felt like, holy ship, I'm not just the drug dealer, right.

1:03:45.640 --> 1:03:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I had no idea to me, I was just selling drugs.

1:03:53.160 --> 1:03:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I was just knowing what I did. It was like reality,

1:03:57.200 --> 1:04:10.000
<v Speaker 1>like why are we doing this? How a weet? Right

1:04:10.120 --> 1:04:19.200
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of us recording this podcast. Yeah, okay,

1:04:19.240 --> 1:04:25.240
<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna start. Phones started to ring. Val and

1:04:25.320 --> 1:04:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Viviana rushed out of the room to take the calls,

1:04:28.360 --> 1:04:32.320
<v Speaker 1>and very quickly the mood changed. You could feel this

1:04:32.680 --> 1:04:36.520
<v Speaker 1>nervous energy as j and Pete realized something was wrong.

1:04:37.400 --> 1:04:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Fifty and I had left the house to give the

1:04:39.320 --> 1:04:42.640
<v Speaker 1>family some space. An hour later we returned to try

1:04:42.680 --> 1:04:47.320
<v Speaker 1>and continue recording. Things felt very heightened. Can you say

1:04:47.440 --> 1:04:50.760
<v Speaker 1>what is happening today? Or would you rather than not? Um?

1:04:52.400 --> 1:04:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I think I think that I think that our fear

1:04:57.040 --> 1:05:01.320
<v Speaker 1>of the revenge something else we that we don't touch

1:05:01.400 --> 1:05:03.760
<v Speaker 1>on as much as I think that we should. Charlie,

1:05:05.760 --> 1:05:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that we don't touch on them. The fear

1:05:08.120 --> 1:05:11.120
<v Speaker 1>of retaliation from the cartel for what Pete and Jay

1:05:11.240 --> 1:05:13.760
<v Speaker 1>did is a constant threat in the lives of the

1:05:13.800 --> 1:05:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Flora's family. But it's not just the cartel that they're

1:05:17.040 --> 1:05:19.600
<v Speaker 1>afraid of, you know. We pray for the best. I'llcome

1:05:19.640 --> 1:05:22.080
<v Speaker 1>for our family, you know, and whatever that that is.

1:05:22.240 --> 1:05:26.240
<v Speaker 1>We're trying to, you know, start fresh and starting new

1:05:26.360 --> 1:05:30.560
<v Speaker 1>life with so many things like demons, like chasing behind us,

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<v Speaker 1>like scoutary feet. I feel like we do live in fear.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're always going to live in fear.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like our life is never going to be normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Only a couple of months after the twins came out

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<v Speaker 1>of prison, Val and Viviana were arrested in their own homes.

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<v Speaker 1>I see thems around my house, and they came in

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<v Speaker 1>with the slat team and army garpens, she guilt and

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<v Speaker 1>helmets and a R fifteens. I couldn't believe that they

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<v Speaker 1>came and ready to knock the door down when I

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<v Speaker 1>seen them coming and look like a bunch of soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>in front of my house and they're marching up the

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<v Speaker 1>street to come to the house, and I remember running

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<v Speaker 1>to my son's room, my daughter's rooming and waking them

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<v Speaker 1>up and telling them the Feds are here, the Feds

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<v Speaker 1>are here. Both of them were released after a few days,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have pending charges against them for money laundering.

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<v Speaker 1>This all goes back to when Pete and Jay turned

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<v Speaker 1>themselves in back in two thousand and eight. Valen Viviana

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<v Speaker 1>collected drug money owed to their husband's Pete and Jay's

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<v Speaker 1>older brother, Armando, was also involved and is named on

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<v Speaker 1>the same indictment. The calls that Valen Viviana received whilst

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<v Speaker 1>we were recording this were to tell them that Armando

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<v Speaker 1>had turned and to save himself, had decided to cooperate

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<v Speaker 1>with the government against Vow and Viviana. Syvianna and I

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<v Speaker 1>are looking at up to ten years in prison, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a real number. It's part of the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted I wanted to share the story. These decisions

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<v Speaker 1>we make, no matter how they are or whatever we

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<v Speaker 1>try to fix, is coming at a cost. To this day,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still trying to make things right. We're still trying

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<v Speaker 1>to correct our wrongs and and you know, we might

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<v Speaker 1>get something right on one end and and failing and

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere else. Everything comes to the price. We're sharing the story,

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<v Speaker 1>not to glamorize. If anything, we think they'd be like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, they're doing the right thing by sharing

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<v Speaker 1>their stories. You can see how much suffering is. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess no one really understands that now that our husband's

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<v Speaker 1>cooperation really made people upset. They had p I is

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<v Speaker 1>in front of our house, and nobody understands exactly what.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what we've been through because of our husband's cooperation,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like we're still letting do it. There's

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<v Speaker 1>this morning yeah on the lad thinking that we were

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<v Speaker 1>seeing how four ls were sitting there discussing some issues,

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<v Speaker 1>and at that moment of the bathroom scenario came back

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<v Speaker 1>into our minds. You know what worry talking about coming

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<v Speaker 1>in and cooperating. I guess what we're actually staying at,

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<v Speaker 1>like the bathrooms, like right there, and we were actually talking.

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<v Speaker 1>We did have a laugh about something that wasn't so

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<v Speaker 1>good to hear and battery point, Hey, it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>we're stilling that Washington, you know, the we're sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>the bad and we're talking and we're like talking about

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<v Speaker 1>today was court, and we're talking about mine and the

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<v Speaker 1>Vianna sentence and my brother in law and where it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like trying to wrap her head around it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, guys, this is exactly where we were Mexican two.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like it's kind of where's you down a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to just keep continue going through things and do

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<v Speaker 1>not not only now, but throughout the whole sentence and

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<v Speaker 1>through everything. And I looked back sometimes and I look

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<v Speaker 1>at my brother. I think the other scenario was just

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<v Speaker 1>like this sentence wise back home, don't like live your

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<v Speaker 1>life and let me and my brother justus do what

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing and just whatever it happens happens. Becausepecially, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that would have been any better. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for my family, but you know, that situation is

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<v Speaker 1>always like that question when we have been worse off

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<v Speaker 1>of when ye have been better. My attorney today, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a conversation with him this morning and he just

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to put everything into perspective, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>just saying that it's just really hard to understand what

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<v Speaker 1>me and Viv being mothers, being wives, and everything we've

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<v Speaker 1>been through, and our husband's basically have a life sentence

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<v Speaker 1>because of the way that we have to live our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>It's never gonna go away. And for us to be

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<v Speaker 1>facing the time that we're facing, he just can't understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just hard for anyone to fathom, right. I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's a life sentence for all of us

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<v Speaker 1>as far as um present time. I feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>hurts even more because the crazy thing is is I

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<v Speaker 1>think that at some points how we've always, like Jay said,

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<v Speaker 1>lived with fear, and it's almost like it's part of

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<v Speaker 1>our life. I feel like I don't have any regrets.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is where I'm at, this is

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm supposed to be, and I take responsibility. I

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<v Speaker 1>take accountability for all my wrongs, all my rights. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that it's made me into a stronger person. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's made us all, you know, resilient and strong.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that it's just us not being together

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<v Speaker 1>is the scariest part of it all. As things stunned

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of production on this season, the trial

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<v Speaker 1>for Viviana Evolve is set for mid Keep It Here

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<v Speaker 1>the epic next season has come. On the next season

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<v Speaker 1>of Surviving El Chapo, the twins who brought down a

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<v Speaker 1>drug lord. Here the next part of Pete and J's

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<v Speaker 1>story and find out what happens as the Florest family

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<v Speaker 1>continue to face the consequences of their decision. As soon

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<v Speaker 1>as I said to one of the door they lack it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a special unit for cooperators. They take me there

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, excuse me, for how long am I

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<v Speaker 1>here for? And she said for good. Here I am

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<v Speaker 1>transferred to new prison and I get putting in style

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<v Speaker 1>and I was supposed to be alone, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>came like, oh, you're gonna have a selling make room.

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<v Speaker 1>He should be here any minute. When he gets here,

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<v Speaker 1>I look at like, oh my god, I know you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with Sammy the ball. It's the worst place. The

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<v Speaker 1>food is cooked by the inmates. So every time they

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<v Speaker 1>send the food trades up, they come with a little

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<v Speaker 1>special surprice. I'm talking about every time if it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a dead rat, roaches, who knows what they

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<v Speaker 1>do to the food. It was like that in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of a week. I remember that she gets up to

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<v Speaker 1>call the baby bottle. We're rinsing the bottle in the bathroom, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so Peter, I'm gonna come in. I remember, just walk

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<v Speaker 1>into the bathroom. I just missed her so much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we got busy in what happened to that man.

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<v Speaker 1>He was taken to a tennant ranch. They found his

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle and it's a threat. It was called I'm nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I can't find my comfortable spot, I'm cold

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<v Speaker 1>in my mouth is so dry. And I could see

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<v Speaker 1>like the defense table off to the left, and here

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<v Speaker 1>comes the juror and they walk in and then right

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<v Speaker 1>away soon as they walk in there they're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the witnesses. They don't stop staring at you. I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there like nervous, and they're not looking I see that

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<v Speaker 1>they're They're landing Choplin and my staringtist like he smiling,

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<v Speaker 1>saying hello everybody. He calms and he turned around. He

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<v Speaker 1>staring right at me. He's just staring him. M h.

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