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Speaker 1: There's plenty of times I've gone out there and my

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Speaker 2: We're on the mountain.

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Speaker 3: Twin super reliever Griffin Jack joining us right now on

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Speaker 3: FT Griffin. Great to have you on. Thanks for waiting

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Speaker 3: for a quick moment. Here has the off season going, man?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks guys for having me. It's been a good

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Speaker 1: off season, you know, kind of went and down. I

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Speaker 4: Where are you based? Where are you based in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Where you're at?

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Speaker 2: We live in Phoenix, which is unfortunate because I gotta

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Speaker 2: go to Florida for spring.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's a great thing for you. Lucky love, very lucky,

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Speaker 4: very lucky. You get to come to God's Gone Fort Myers,

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Speaker 3: There's been a sushie spot there. Yeah, I don't remember

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Speaker 3: the name, but there's a good one, good sushi spot.

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Speaker 4: For there's one good sushi spot. Charis. You can hit

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Speaker 4: that every other day. When's last time you were in

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Speaker 3: I've been in four Myers fifteen times in the last

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Speaker 4: It's gotten so much bigger. Actually, when I was there

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, got pots. Fuh Yeah. It's done a lot

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Speaker 5: But Griffin, when you first came on, and people will

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Speaker 5: have to rewind this, you were going like this right

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Speaker 5: when first came on. Are you at that point in

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Speaker 5: Are you like, I'm good, Like I don't need to

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Speaker 5: I don't need to be hucking the rock right now.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm just at that point in life, just

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Speaker 4: Okay, well it reliever. Listen, you're a reliever. Throws some

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Speaker 4: tiger bomb on that thing had the orange sleeve and

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Speaker 4: let's go baby.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got a good concoction.

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Speaker 4: When you make your own yeah, that's what I want

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Speaker 2: You know how the training room has all the different

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Speaker 1: I basically just go down the line and whatever I see,

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Speaker 1: I throw on the arm.

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Speaker 4: Say that again, because it just shoulder. You do the

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Speaker 4: whole arm, just shoulder.

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Speaker 2: H whole arm, shoulder, shoulder to the wrist.

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Speaker 4: Have you bottled it?

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Speaker 5: Because I know some guys will go like a little

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Speaker 5: Or do you just go down? Do you just go

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Speaker 1: I can't do the light of cane because I need

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Speaker 4: Now do you go to the bullpen in like the

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Speaker 2: A guy Duran and I go down to the fourth.

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Speaker 4: What do you do? I I always want to know

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Speaker 4: do you I mean, I'm out there grinding and you

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Speaker 1: Part of it is sort of respect for the position

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's some stretching, some rolling out, some

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Speaker 2: Okay, Griffin had a good year.

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Speaker 4: I had a great year.

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Speaker 3: Left great And also how Dari pitches the Yeah he does,

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Speaker 4: Yeah he's not he did. He's not the closer.

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Speaker 5: He's not the clote Griffin, are you the closer for

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Speaker 5: the Minnesota Twins?

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Speaker 5: No, thank you, that's.

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Speaker 4: It, thank you. I know he had saved anybody go ahead. No, no, no,

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Speaker 4: I was gonna wait because Mike thing is, Duran comes in,

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Speaker 4: they have like this cool thing that comes on this

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Speaker 4: did they have like airplanes fly over because of the

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Speaker 4: cool thing for it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I had a decent, you know show, But anything besides

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Speaker 1: his is you know, child's play. I basically had like

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Speaker 2: So this is a discussion.

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Speaker 5: This discussion we had and AJ completely disagreed with me.

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Speaker 5: I think all relievers should have their own display. Do

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Speaker 5: you agree or disagree that you should have your own

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Speaker 5: whatever you want, whatever it is that you would like.

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Speaker 1: I think every reliever should have at least like a

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Speaker 1: walkout song, and every stadium operator is different kind of

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Speaker 1: just like with the pitch clock, Like there's plenty of

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Speaker 2: To throw the first pitch.

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Speaker 1: Like there's just other stuff going on, promotions, games being

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Speaker 2: On the mountain.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so let me ask this then, So just to

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Speaker 4: like here comes the guy to give me five minutinges

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Speaker 1: No, not necessarily like a light show or any sort

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Speaker 2: Song he likes.

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Speaker 4: I can get on board with a song, but like

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Speaker 4: the light show should be for the.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my thing though, is okay, for sure, I'm with you,

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Speaker 3: Here there's a big difference between Duran's incredible entrance and oh,

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Speaker 3: here comes the eighth inning guy who sometimes also is

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Speaker 4: Like, all right, let's play twins trivia? Is it a

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Speaker 3: And Griffin Jackson's like, I think there should be a

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Speaker 1: They threw some together at the end of the year,

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Speaker 4: It should have been for Griffin Jackson because it's true

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Speaker 4: or false. Griffin jacks hates the taste of water. True

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Speaker 2: Cut huh slander true?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's necessarily intimidating. But here's okay,

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Speaker 3: I want to get nerdy on a stat question for

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Speaker 3: one moment. Here, what's the what is the go to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, ERA is one of those ones you

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Speaker 2: I mean, now, that stat strand percentage is huge.

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Speaker 1: I think punch out rate K percentages is ginormous, Like

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Speaker 4: All right? What about holds? Because we've had we've had

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Speaker 4: getting saves, I need holds. So is hold something that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for me because if I'm not getting saves,

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Speaker 1: But uh, you know, we all know that holds aren't

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Speaker 4: True. True, that's what you paid. That's why you don't

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's what I need.

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Speaker 5: Need an entrance to get paid. It'll come up in arbitration.

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Speaker 5: Why does this guy not have a cool song or

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Speaker 5: cool entrance? We shouldn't pay him as much. That's what

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Speaker 5: they're gonna hold they all right, So tell us, tell

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was incredible.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was probably one of the most nervous

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Speaker 2: It was almost like my debut again. But I think

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Speaker 1: And just to experience that not only like as a fan,

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Speaker 4: So wait, are you the only loser brother that doesn't

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Speaker 1: Was my That was my joke at one of my

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Speaker 4: Who's the cooler thing in the Air Force?

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Speaker 2: Say that again?

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Speaker 4: Who is a cooler job.

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Speaker 2: Out of my two brothers?

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Speaker 5: No between you you or your two brothers being a

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Speaker 2: Say them and I will agree, like what they do

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Speaker 1: Like you know, you're deployed from your family for months

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Speaker 2: Not say that they got a harder job.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So two things, What did you do in the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I man, I had just a very unique upbringing

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Speaker 1: A minute of time after that, they had me doing

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Speaker 1: And thankfully, like seven months later they told me that

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Speaker 5: Nice?

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Speaker 4: Sor right? So, what are your brothers? What's your family's

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Speaker 4: call signs? Sorry? Er, what's your family's call sign? What's

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Speaker 4: out or didn't vomit? Yeah, So what are your brothers

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Speaker 4: and your sister in law's call sign? And what would

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Speaker 2: So I only know.

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Speaker 1: One of my brother's call signs, and it's an acronym.

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Speaker 1: I forget what it stands for. I mean what the

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Speaker 5: All right, there's some wait does that does that fall

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Speaker 5: under your Does that fall under your duties as p monitor?

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Speaker 4: Somebody that peed their pants in the cockpit because you

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: I was basically CDT. You know, I was in the

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Speaker 2: there's no there's no foul play here in your drug test. Uh,

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Speaker 4: You were that guy.

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Speaker 1: You were that guy, the guy that was anything else

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Speaker 1: I had to buy snacks for everybody I had. You know,

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. You were the guy from CDT that

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Speaker 4: would show up my house call you, Hey, are you home? Yes,

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Speaker 4: all right, we'll be your house in thirty minutes. Hope

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Speaker 4: you ate breakfast? Yes? Wow, yeah all right. Basically yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry for that.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's nicer to the test monitors than in MLB when

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Speaker 3: deal exactly. Well, that's a good way to finish. Hey,

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Speaker 3: great to have you on. Really appreciate the time. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for waiting for us for a little bit. Obviously we

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Speaker 3: got backed up, yes, but always great to have you man.

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Speaker 2: This was fun, that's right. I appreciate you. Fella's talk

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Speaker 2: soon