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Speaker 3: Well, this would be good stuff.

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Speaker 1: A decade in the NFL, four and two career playoff record,

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Speaker 1: he's become a great broadcaster for us at Fox Sports.

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Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez is now joining US live as he often

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Speaker 1: does on Wednesday or Thursday. He's got the Jags Niners.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a second. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: start you covered Jackson Dark gets his first start. You

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Speaker 1: covered him in the preseason. So what are realistic expectations.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if they're left tackle Andrew Thomas

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Speaker 1: will be healthy, that would worry me. What are realistic

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Speaker 1: expectations for Jackson?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the way to frame this entire game.

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Speaker 5: Making a start against the top ten passing defense and

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Speaker 5: Jesse Mentor, this defensive coordinator for the Chargers, He's got

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Speaker 5: his team dialed and so I would expect early completions,

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Speaker 5: some slants, some screens, some play actions to build his rhythm,

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Speaker 5: and don't forget his mobility is legit and often underrated.

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Speaker 5: He plays a lot faster than he might look on tape.

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Speaker 5: So I'd expect some of those design runs that he's

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Speaker 5: already come in and used these first couple of games

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Speaker 5: when they've subbed out Russell Wilson, to get him in

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Speaker 5: to get some experience. But this Giants offense has its

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Speaker 5: fair share of struggles, especially if you don't have your

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Speaker 5: left tackle, especially with all the turmoil in the receiver room,

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Speaker 5: I'd expect I'm not expecting him to win the game.

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Speaker 5: I'm just expecting him to get his feet wet and

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Speaker 5: most importantly, you know, stack some completions and protect the football.

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Speaker 5: Is really all I'd like to see from him this week.

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Speaker 5: Justin Herbert was good last year. He is different this year,

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Speaker 5: and that's having lost a really good left tackle.

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Speaker 1: What's different? What are you seeing that's different? And maybe

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Speaker 1: game planning, scheming, something feels different.

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Speaker 5: I think last year they really emphasize that run first

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Speaker 5: culture and we're gonna pound the rock. We're going to

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Speaker 5: be ground and pound, which is fine and they only allow.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think you throw the ball like twenty

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Speaker 5: one times a game through his first three games. Now

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Speaker 5: he's thrown at like thirty eight pass attempts a game,

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Speaker 5: and he's showing this offense really is built on his arm.

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Speaker 5: He's got you know, over seventy percent completion seven touchdowns,

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Speaker 5: so they're leaning on him, and he's playing the most

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Speaker 5: confident I've ever seen him play. He's decisive, and then

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Speaker 5: you get the splash plays that we used to get,

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Speaker 5: even when he first took the field as a rookie,

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Speaker 5: when they weren't even expecting him to play all those

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Speaker 5: years ago. You still see the plays they played rolling

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Speaker 4: To his guy in the end zone.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's not many humans on the planet who

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Speaker 4: So he's he's in rare form right now.

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Speaker 5: And you know, the rushing attack has kind of taken

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Speaker 1: As you know, the opinion of a quarterback in this

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Speaker 1: league can change with a bad half. It's unfair, but

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Speaker 1: you know, the media is loud. It's the one sport

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Speaker 1: in America. Everybody watches. I always like Carson Wentz and

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Speaker 1: then the late great Jim irsay he had a bad

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Speaker 1: and it's like time out. Ye had twenty seven touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: seven pigs. It was really really good, and in Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: he got hurt. He was going to be MVP. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't pull him out. I think right now today, I

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Speaker 3: What say you?

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Speaker 5: Well, the biggest sat I saw And I had to

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Speaker 5: in a group chat.

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Speaker 4: But the Minnesota Vikings are fifteen.

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Speaker 5: And three when Kevin O'Connell has a ginger starting at quarterback.

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Speaker 5: So eighty three point three three percent, that's all I know.

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Speaker 5: But on a serious note, you know he provides stability. Well,

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Speaker 5: You know, he just kept it steady. And Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 5: clearly knows how to communicate with this quarterback. He gives you,

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Speaker 5: I got no issues with number eleven starting for the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: I always like Sam Darnold. I think you did too,

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Speaker 1: But I do think I said this. I think Sam

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Speaker 3: And that's not a knock outside of Josh Allen. The

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Speaker 3: I like what Seattle has created for him.

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Speaker 4: What do you see? Well, I think you're exactly right.

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Speaker 5: I think he's right around the twenty nine to thirty

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Speaker 4: But that's okay.

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Speaker 5: They have a two headed rushing attack in Zach Charbona

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Speaker 5: in Jackson Smith and Jebo. This guy, Yeah, he's turned

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Speaker 5: You saw it flashes of it a little bit as

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Speaker 4: And then you see big Leonard Williams.

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Speaker 5: I mean, just add him to the list of New

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Speaker 5: then become superstars somewhere else. It's don't forget about my

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Speaker 5: man Danny Dimes. He's balling out too in Indy. We

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Speaker 3: So we'll get to the Jags Niners game. I like

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Speaker 1: You know, when quarterbacks come out mark Mark Sanchez For

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Speaker 1: I thought Sam Donald came out, I said, he's not

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Speaker 3: I never had one for Baker.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was a little cocky, he was.

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Speaker 5: He's got that fire and intensity that he plays with.

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Speaker 5: Thought Alwa's just cocky, always just a young kid. He's immature.

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Speaker 4: Talked to him yesterday.

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Speaker 5: It comes out today and he's one of my favorite

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Speaker 4: And I think you see all that through the interview.

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Speaker 5: And one of my favorite questions that I got to

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Speaker 5: ask him, I just said, has anybody reminded you that

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Speaker 5: the last two coordinators you had in Tampa are now

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Speaker 5: head coaches. I mean, you got those guys a lot

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Speaker 5: Those are two head coaches now in the NFL. I said,

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Speaker 4: Something? And he goes, you know, that's a good point.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they are.

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Speaker 5: I said, well, don't forget about that, buddy, Yeah, don't

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Speaker 4: So Baker's having a heck of the year.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing this league.

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Speaker 5: Also, think about this, find somebody in the stats department

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Speaker 4: It is so hard to lose a game when you check.

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Speaker 5: All those boxes as a team, it's nearly impossible. I'd

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Speaker 4: That's way above my pay grade.

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Speaker 1: Harrison has been the Seattle Arizona line. Everybody. You look

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Speaker 3: All sorts of interesting stuff. This is a It is.

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Speaker 1: A magnificent college football weekend into a great Sunday, into

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Speaker 1: have a good time because by Saturday it's over. I

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Speaker 1: I'd like to lead, but that is a life. J

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Speaker 1: Mack with a news no turns.

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Speaker 3: This is the Herd line news. Sure, Anne loves to

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Speaker 1: You want to know she watched it too. Oh no,

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Speaker 9: All right, let's start this hour colin the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 9: They lost to the Charger of twenty three twenty and

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Speaker 9: I have mentioned now twice during the show bo Nix

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton is not blaming his quarterback.

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Speaker 10: It was too inconsistent. Two, there were too many minus plays.

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Speaker 10: It was a hard day to play quarterback when you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the schedule lightens up considerably. They face bad quarterbacks,

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Speaker 9: He's the lowest graded passer according to Pro Football Focus.

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Speaker 9: Next up, Colin, let's go back to the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 9: They have a big one against the Chiefs on Sunday.

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Speaker 9: to score twenty We can't expect them to score twenty

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Speaker 9: eight thirty points a game. It's putting unfair expectations on

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Speaker 9: our offense.

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Speaker 1: So the issue they have is that we talked about

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Speaker 1: this Tuesday morning yesterday. They're not playing complimentary football. Lamar

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Speaker 1: is so dynamic and they score so quickly that their

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Speaker 1: defense is on the field constantly, and it's not good

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Speaker 1: to begin with. Last year, Detroit won fifteen games and

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Speaker 1: had a bad defense, but they dominated time of possession.

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Speaker 1: So the Ravens bizarrely are number one in the league

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Speaker 1: in told offense and near the bottom of the league

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Speaker 1: in time of possession. Because Lamar is so explosive they

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Speaker 1: score quickly. So my take is, what move do you

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Speaker 1: have to make to solve I mean, I don't worry

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Speaker 1: about Derek Henry fumbles. They're not good, but I don't

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Speaker 1: worry about the offense. I worry about them giving up

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Speaker 1: big chunk plays over the top. I think they need

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Speaker 1: to make a move of the deadline. I don't think

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Speaker 1: their personnel is good enough, and I think when you

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Speaker 1: pay a quarterback a lot of money. Kansas City bad

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Speaker 1: old line, no run game, Josh Allen, interior defensive line,

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Speaker 1: interior linebacking group not great.

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Speaker 3: You can run on them evens.

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Speaker 1: Defense personnels mostly I mean they've got Kyle Hamilton Rokwan Smith.

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Speaker 1: Now they're missing a couple of pass rushers. It will

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Speaker 1: get better, but it I mean that game against Detroit

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Speaker 1: was not as competitive as the score. They they got

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Speaker 1: pushed around.

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Speaker 9: So let me ask you, Ravens Chiefs, right, probably the

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Speaker 9: best game on Sunday. If the Chiefs fall to one

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Speaker 9: in three or if the Ravens fall to one and three,

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Speaker 9: who's in more trouble the loser of this game?

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Speaker 3: And I think there's a pretty clear I think the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because the Chargers should be the Giants before. No,

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Speaker 1: so you're now you are now three back yep. And

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Speaker 1: if you go look at the Chargers schedule, there's some

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Speaker 1: w's on that.

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Speaker 9: And the Chargers already beat you head to head. So yeah,

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Speaker 9: the Chiefs need this one badly. So, I mean, you

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Speaker 9: could be concerned if you're the Ravens, but I don't

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Speaker 9: think anybody's worried about Cincinnati is Worthy playing who knows

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Speaker 9: that guy never plays man? But like again, to the

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Speaker 9: I don't think you worry about Pittsburgh running away. We

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Speaker 9: both have the Vikings this week. You're not worried about

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Speaker 9: Jake Browning. So even if you lose this, it's not

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Speaker 9: the end of the world for Baltimore. But mentally, Colin,

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Speaker 9: if they can't beat the Chiefs, this version of the Chiefs,

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Speaker 9: at that point, you gotta be like, geez, we're never

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Speaker 9: gonna get by these freaking guys.

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Speaker 3: I agreed. Final story, con Let's go to those Chargers,

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Speaker 3: who we love. I think there's actually.

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Speaker 9: Some value in them winning the Super Bowl, but haven't

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Speaker 9: made the bet yet. They're three and oh beat all

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Speaker 9: three division rivals. The last team to start three and

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Speaker 9: oh and doing it against division opponents was the two

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Speaker 9: thousand and six Bears. They ended up going to Super

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Speaker 9: Bowl that year. Now, nobody's saying the Chargers are I

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Speaker 9: think if you really read the landscape, I think the

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Speaker 9: Chargers are going to have as good a shot as anybody.

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Speaker 9: They got to obviously get the offensive line healthy, but

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Speaker 9: the skill.

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Speaker 3: Position guys are there. Obviously, we like.

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Speaker 9: The coach combo, you know, Penn and Teller or whatever

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Speaker 9: you want to call them, and the defense with Jesse

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Speaker 9: Minter is excellent. Chargers super Bowl too high Yperbolic. No,

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Speaker 9: I think Chargers bills. If I had to make a

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Speaker 9: bet today.

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Speaker 1: Chargers Bills AFC title game is I don't think the

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Speaker 1: Chargers need to make a move at the trade deadline.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 9: Well, you never can listen if you can find a

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Speaker 9: swing tackle as extra protection, right, I mean, we know.

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Speaker 1: But that's not a big swing. Slater's back next year.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Oh, I think what you and I

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Speaker 1: talked about earlier. I talked about this during the commercial

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Speaker 1: break with a staff DJ Moore to Buffalo, think about this.

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Speaker 1: I want every Buffalo bill fan to think about this,

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Speaker 1: is that Kansas City's offense will not stay this bad. Correct,

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Speaker 1: Baltimore's defense will not be this bad. Okay, And the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: by the way, with Harbor are going to keep winning games.

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Speaker 1: You may be able to because Drake mayst kid the

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Speaker 1: Jets are circling the drain. Miami's a mess. This could be,

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Speaker 1: in fairness, the last year for Buffalo getting a home

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Speaker 1: playoff game against Harbaugh, a warm weather SOFI team in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo in that windy stadium. The new Buffalo Stadium is

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Speaker 1: going to it will be less windy. So this is

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Speaker 1: an opportunity. You get the worst of the Chiefs offense

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Speaker 1: going forward, the worst of the Ravens defense and the

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Speaker 1: last year where you can bring a dome or a

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Speaker 1: West Coast team into a stadium that is a huge

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Speaker 1: weather advantage. This new stadium is going to block a

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Speaker 1: great deal of the win. So to me, if you're Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: this is the move you go get a player now.

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Speaker 1: I think the interior d line is an issue. But

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore is a really good player.

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Speaker 4: It's weird.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know, and I know this is going

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Speaker 3: to sound in SENDI here.

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Speaker 9: I don't know that Buffalo is right now better than

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Speaker 9: the Chargers. The Chargers are more balanced, Colin, I'm sorry

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Speaker 9: they are. They have a real defense the Bills don't.

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Speaker 9: And the Buffalo offense is that much better.

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Speaker 3: What does the Jim Harbaugh critics going to do? Oh

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Speaker 3: there are none? Come on, Oh give me a break.

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Speaker 3: Who's like Ohio State fans?

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Speaker 9: Come on?

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Speaker 3: Yes, what are they going to do if you win

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl? What are they going to do? Compare

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Speaker 3: them to Pete Carroll, Dude, I'm joking, I'll come on.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love when people who are great but

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Speaker 1: they have big personalities so they alienate people. I love

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Speaker 1: seeing great people who can be polarizing and there's a

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Speaker 1: group of people that don't like them, and they just

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Speaker 1: keep winning and you keep running out of excuses.

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Speaker 3: So you love me. Basically, well, I didn't put you

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Speaker 3: in Harball's class. J Mack with the news, Well, that's the.

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Speaker 6: News, and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: It's the best college football weekend since Labor Day weekend,

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Speaker 1: which was also really good. We'll put the college football

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Speaker 1: schedule up.

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Speaker 3: Oregon.

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Speaker 1: I think I'll take Oregon against Penn State really close.

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Speaker 1: Penn State struggled in these big games. I think Ohio

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Speaker 1: State's the better team as the numbers coming down. Washington Jedfish,

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Speaker 1: He's on our show later this week. Washington's quarterback can

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Speaker 1: spin it. I like LSU to go to Ole Miss

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Speaker 1: and win. I think Joe Clatt and I both agree

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Speaker 1: Old Missus. You know Kiffin's popular. I think LSU's better.

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Speaker 1: I'll take Texas A and M at home. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what to do with Iowa hosting Indiana. I'll take Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Bama's been allows the road team, but I think I'll

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Speaker 1: be at the USC game at Illinois down the road

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Speaker 1: here a couple hours. I do think there was a discussion,

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Speaker 1: Josh Pate, a really good college football podcaster and voice,

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Speaker 1: said that he thinks, actually, Jayden Mayava is a better

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Speaker 1: fit with Lincoln than Caleb Williams because Caleb has so

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Speaker 1: much horsepower. Sometimes it felt like it was Caleb's team,

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Speaker 1: not Lincoln Riley's. And Mayava, who was reckless last year,

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Speaker 1: does not look like the same quarterback, much less frenetic,

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Speaker 1: much more comfortable, much better judgment. I didn't trust him

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Speaker 1: at all throwing the ball down the middle last year.

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Speaker 1: He's made beautiful throws. Now, I mean, it's it's Purdue,

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Speaker 1: it's Michigan State. But Joel Klatt earlier on the Jaden

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Speaker 1: Mayava Caleb Williams comps with Lincoln Riley. Caleb Williams was

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback talent wise that Lincoln.

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Speaker 4: Riley had at USC.

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Speaker 11: And Jaden Mayava's offense could be better than Caleb williams offense.

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Speaker 11: Why Because it's more balanced. Mayava stays within the system

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Speaker 11: more so. What they threaten the defense with is actually

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Speaker 11: what I would consider to be deeper, incredibly talented. But

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Speaker 11: this offense is better and it's more balanced.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 1: It's got a big run game and Lincoln Riley, you know,

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Speaker 1: because he was so effective with quarter got this reputation

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Speaker 1: that he was just like a pass happy guy. His

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma teams were balanced. He loved running the ball. But

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Speaker 1: with Caleb Williams, I mean, Woody Marks was great. He's

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Speaker 1: now with the Houston Texans, but it felt like it

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Speaker 1: was very pass centric and Caleb centric. Just get Caleb space.

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Speaker 1: This is a real team. They have real size on

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Speaker 1: the defensive front. They run the ball. Jordan Sanders, they

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Speaker 1: got a kid, Calabasa's kid, King Miller, Miller King, I

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Speaker 1: forget Jackson, they got some running backs. So college football schedule,

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Speaker 1: I think Ohio State wins generally. If you're a number

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Speaker 1: one team in the country and you face an unranked team,

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Speaker 1: even if it's on the road, you win. So I'll

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Speaker 1: take Ohio State, USC lsu A, and m Oregon. Georgia

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, Indiana won by fifty.

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Speaker 9: That's I was just gonna say, what's the thought process

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Speaker 9: in Georgia. Kirby Smart has really struggled against Alabama historically.

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Speaker 1: Well, for a long time, everybody did. I think Georgia

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Speaker 1: doesn't lose home games, and I think Bama's I think

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good game, but I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: Georgia and Athens almost every time against everybody except professional teams.

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Speaker 1: First things first, around the corner on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: It's thirt