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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by Draft Kings. I'm Garrett

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Speaker 1: Downing joined by Clifton Brown, and today we're excited to

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Speaker 1: sit down with Dale Jeremi from the NFL Network, one

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Speaker 1: of the best draft analysts out there. So DJ, I

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Speaker 1: first want to start with the hiring of Jesse Mintter

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Speaker 1: for the Ravens. He's somebody you know, you work with

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Speaker 1: the Chargers on the radio team, and you know Jesse. Well,

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Speaker 1: what are your impressions of what he's going to bring

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Speaker 1: here to Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't say that you hit a home run

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Speaker 2: with Jesse Minner. I'd say you hit a Grand Slam.

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Speaker 2: Jesse Minner. I cannot say enough good things about him,

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Speaker 2: and I'll start first of all, he's humble. You know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of times you have someone who's found success.

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Speaker 2: He's a little bit younger. There's an ego that's associated

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Speaker 2: with that. He doesn't have it. I mean, he makes

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Speaker 2: everything about the players. He's got great personal relationships with players.

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Speaker 2: He's you know, brilliant in terms of designing a defensive

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Speaker 2: game plan. He's proven everything you could prove on the

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Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. And I think relationship only

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Speaker 2: he's so good, that's gonna I mean, that's just going

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Speaker 2: to be a strength he can tap into even more

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Speaker 2: as a head coach. And I think he's forward thinking.

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Speaker 2: He's surrounded himself, you know, with some good young coaches.

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Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a really good energy uh

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Speaker 2: in a in, a good lift and a good vibe

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Speaker 2: there as he gets there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can feel that kind of starting already, which

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Speaker 1: is encouraging.

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Speaker 2: And he's confident in the joggers. Man like McVay. McVay

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Speaker 2: pulls it off. They're not everybody, you know McDaniel, I

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Speaker 2: think pulled it off. Yeah, it's not everybody can pull

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Speaker 2: off the jography jograss, right, yeah, because he sometimes the

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Speaker 2: joggrass and you could say, well, I don't know, is

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Speaker 2: he soft? You know, it's like no, he's a tough

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Speaker 2: guy that wears joggras. Is a very unique combination.

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Speaker 3: Right when you look at this year's draft board and

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Speaker 3: what the Ravens are fourteen and what they need, how

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Speaker 3: does the talent stack up with what they're looking for.

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty good. You know, I think there's

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Speaker 2: options there. You know, whether or not you want to

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Speaker 2: look for you know, defensive line, you look at interior

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Speaker 2: the offensive line, you could get the best offensive lineman

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Speaker 2: in the draft. In my opinion, the kid at Penn

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Speaker 2: State I think is the best offensive lineman in the draft.

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Speaker 2: Now he's a guard, and some teams would shy away

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Speaker 2: from that. I don't think that the Ravens necessarily would

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Speaker 2: if you if you feel like he's the best football

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Speaker 2: player in Yoani. So there's some trench players that are

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Speaker 2: really good. And then you know wide out wise, you

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Speaker 2: want to add another weapon. I think there's gonna be

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Speaker 2: some intriguing names there as well.

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Speaker 1: Well, in your latest mock draft, you have the Ravens

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Speaker 1: going wide receiver and sent out of Arizona State. What

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Speaker 1: is it that you like about him and think that

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Speaker 1: could make him a good fit for the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think he's a complete receiver. You know, he's

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Speaker 2: got size, he's sudden, he's explosive off the line. You

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Speaker 2: talk about some macrobat it catches down the field. I

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Speaker 2: mean you'll see him kind of levitate up in the

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Speaker 2: air so he can go he can go play above

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Speaker 2: the rim and do those things. That the reason why

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Speaker 2: he would be there is because of the durability question,

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Speaker 2: So you've got to navigate around that. He's missed some

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Speaker 2: time every year. I don't know that he's going to

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Speaker 2: do everything here in Indianapolis either, So just to see

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Speaker 2: where he is from a medical standpoint, but talent wise, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he'd be a nice compliment to say Flowers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of years ago, Kyle Hamiltof fell to

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Speaker 3: the Raves at fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Somebody always seems to do that, that's their annual tradition.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of getting to that with a guy

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Speaker 3: like RFL Reese. I mean, do you think maybe he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would say, like there's no chance.

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Speaker 2: But I can't tell you the number of times that

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Speaker 2: the Ravens have no chance their way into a great

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Speaker 2: say he's a tweener, but I would argue against that

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Speaker 2: because he's already proven he can be an outstanding off

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Speaker 2: the edge position, I think that's where his ultimate upside is.

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Speaker 2: I think that's where he lands. That's where he ends

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Speaker 2: up playing. But he hasn't you know, accumulated as many

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Speaker 2: we might value the edge position over the off the

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Speaker 2: little bit. That's a long way to go, but that's

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Speaker 2: one of those ones where you know, the Ravens usually

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Speaker 2: like more picks, not less picks. But if he got

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious when you're looking at for looking at

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Speaker 1: like using RBL Reese as an example, Okay, you played

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Speaker 1: off the ball linebacker, but we expect him to play

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Speaker 1: do you evaluate that and make that projection when you're

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Speaker 1: looking at these guys.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you'd like to see him do a

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Speaker 2: little bit of it and then nice thing with him

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Speaker 2: as you have you've seen him on the edge and

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Speaker 2: you know right now day one, like you want somebody

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Speaker 2: to set the edge. He can do that. He's shown

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Speaker 2: that that's easy for him. He has got length, he's

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Speaker 2: does he have the traits to be a good rusher. Well,

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Speaker 2: he's got he's got elite burst, he's that power shows

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Speaker 2: he doesn't have as a plan, he just hasn't done

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Speaker 2: enough of it to develop a plan and be kind

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Speaker 2: you know, that stuff is kind of natural. I believe

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Speaker 2: the scouting process is you get a chance to go,

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Speaker 2: you know, to pro days into private workouts and get

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Speaker 2: You get to see him get some work at guard,

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Speaker 2: to be a little bit of a different mental challenge.

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of things you can do from when

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Speaker 3: We just started Eric Dakasta talking about the Ravens beefing

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Speaker 3: up the trenches. Namdi Madabigue his future kind of uncertain.

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Speaker 3: Are there any day too defensive tackles Ravens could be

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Speaker 3: looking at him, kind of think fits their scheme.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a good group there.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times with the defensive tackles, you can

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Speaker 2: I know people have talked about Kleb Banks and said, oh,

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Speaker 2: you watch him where he's not quite as consistent. I've

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Speaker 2: I think with Peter Woods from Clemson, he's most likely

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Speaker 2: picking one of those guys getting there. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if that's necessarily you know, going to happen and be

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Speaker 2: more excited about the group you'd see in three and four,

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Speaker 2: you know, like a McClellan's people like that. You could

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Speaker 1: You mentioned and State offensive lineman vega Ione. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: maybe right there for the Ravens at fourteen. That's the

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Speaker 1: general consensus of where he's going to be. If he's there,

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Speaker 1: is that like a home run pick for them to

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Speaker 2: For me, it is I know people will say guard

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Speaker 2: I don't care. I've watched grays Abel go in the

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Speaker 2: first round last year. I lost tracking onun how it

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Speaker 2: worked out for Seattle, but yeah, I think it was okay,

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Speaker 2: he's the best, He's the best offensive lineman in the draft.

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Speaker 2: So in the Ravens collect they love collecting Pro Bowl

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Speaker 2: caliber players and don't get carried away with positional value

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Speaker 2: too much. I mean that's you talk about middle of

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Speaker 3: Yeah. As far as yeah, you talked about position this players.

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Speaker 3: Is that something that you think is getting more and

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Speaker 3: more commonplace? And Jesse Mentor's influence on this defense, a

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Speaker 3: guy who came from the Charge, it seemed like he

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Speaker 3: got the most out of a lot of defensive players.

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Speaker 3: What do you think that they're looking for in the draft?

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Speaker 3: Maybe the trades that he might be looking for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's one thing that's underrated. And I

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Speaker 2: saw it with the Chargers and I think you know,

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Speaker 2: you guys have seen it over the when the Ravens

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Speaker 2: defense is where it needs to be. I think sometimes

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Speaker 2: people get it twisted a little bit and they'll say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: well it's the fastest defense or they've got you know, man,

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Speaker 2: they're just so physical and so aggressive, and to me,

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Speaker 2: the key the sweet sauce there is this is a

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Speaker 2: smart group, like I saw it with the Chargers. Derwin

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Speaker 2: So finding guys who are very instinctive and smart and

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Speaker 2: that's something you look at like I look at Rodriguez

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Speaker 2: probably going the third round, maybe he could sneak into

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Speaker 2: the second round, but this guy's incredibly smart. Owen Heinke

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Speaker 2: into the fourth round. But those types of players that

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Speaker 2: have enough athleticism, but then on top of that are

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Speaker 2: really really smart, instinctive guys. I mean those guys Jesse

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Speaker 2: Minroill get the most out of them.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens have had a ton of mid round tight

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Speaker 1: ends who go on to have successful careers. Mark Andrews

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Speaker 1: Isaiah one of those guys he's going to be a

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Speaker 1: free agent. We'll see what happens there. Charlie Kolar also

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Speaker 1: going to be a free agent. So who's the next

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Speaker 1: Awesome. Well, fans, make sure you check out Daniel's coverage

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Speaker 1: all throughout Draft weekend combined everything. He's covering everything leading

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Speaker 2: Good to see you guys.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into the Lounge podcast. We're coming to you

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Speaker 3: Well that there's a lot of different ways the Ravens

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Speaker 1: It is interesting. I actually came away from it really

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