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Speaker 1: Let's go out on the Giants Mobulo, give me some job.

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Speaker 1: Part of the Giants Podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: Let's roll.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought

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Speaker 3: to you by Citizens, the Official Bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 3: I am John Schmelket, the usual Friday podcast, A player

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Speaker 3: interview and at'll preview with Giants and Chiefs. It's all

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Speaker 3: brought to you by Citizens, the Official Bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 3: Come to you from the Hackensack of Moriney Health Podcast Studio.

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Speaker 3: Keep getting Better. So Brian David will be a Bob Popham.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have Danan Hughes, who's a former Chiefs wide

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Speaker 3: receiver also the radio analyst for the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: will break down Kansas City. But we're gonna lead off

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Speaker 3: with my interview with Giants Rookie running back Camp Scattaboo.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're back for another edition of the Giants

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Speaker 3: Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens, the Official Bank

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Speaker 3: of the Giants from the Hackensack of Britney Hell Podcast Studio.

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Speaker 3: Keep getting Better, joined by Giants Rookie running Back Camp Scataboo.

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Speaker 2: Cam, what's up, man, how's it going.

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Speaker 3: I'm good Scott. When you went back looked at the

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Speaker 3: tape last week, what did you see from a team

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Speaker 3: perspective and from what you did.

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Speaker 2: On tape, everything was good. Man. We executed at a

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Speaker 2: high level.

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Speaker 4: Obviously there's a couple of players that we wish we

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Speaker 4: could have got back, but we did a lot of

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Speaker 4: good things. The energy was high the sidelines, the energy

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Speaker 4: was high, and you know, the crowd we had there

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Speaker 4: that we felt was felt. So I feel like coming

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Speaker 4: an awesome experience to be able to fill that energy

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Speaker 3: So I saw the video that the NFL put up

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Speaker 3: on social Did you get the touchdown ball?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I finally got it. Who had got it? The

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Speaker 2: equipment staff grab for me?

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Speaker 3: Sorry? Good, I'm very happy you got that all right.

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Speaker 3: When you took a look at that one fourth down play,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you and Russ talked about it. Anything that

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Speaker 3: you guys could have done better communication wise, you in

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Speaker 3: terms of trying to catch that pass in the flat

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Speaker 3: on that crucial fourth down.

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Speaker 2: That that was on me.

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Speaker 4: You know, I catch those balls in practice. So Russ

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Speaker 4: expects me to catch those. And you know I was

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Speaker 2: But there's no excuse for that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I dropped the ball, and you know it

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Speaker 4: happened here and there, but it won't happen again.

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Speaker 2: That's sure.

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Speaker 3: You have excellent hands, You're a great receivers obviously won't

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Speaker 3: pass protection. That's what I'm talk to you about. You're

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Speaker 3: really good at it. Why do you take so much

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming you do take a lot of pride in it?

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Speaker 3: Why is that important to you? And why do you

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Speaker 3: think you've been so effective at it early in your

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was told that I sucked at it in college.

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Speaker 4: The reason, the reason I probably was a second round

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Speaker 4: they thought. You know, he can't do it. He can't

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Speaker 4: I'll be ready for it whenever it comes that my way.

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Speaker 3: What makes a good pass protector? Is it the physical mindset?

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Speaker 3: Is it knowing where it's coming from? Is it everything?

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Speaker 3: What makes a good pass p Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta know where you'll be. Obviously there's your

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Speaker 3: It's funny you mentioned that what's been the biggest difference

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the guys are bigger, faster, stronger. I've

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Speaker 4: they're all smarter. You know, a lot of the guys

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Speaker 4: various ways, and you know, you got to pick those

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Speaker 2: Is a lot better too.

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Speaker 4: You know, college, you got guys dipping their head, closing

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, you were a great tackle breaker in college.

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Speaker 3: You were of the best in college football last year.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of it is about you and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think I'm gifted with the ability

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Speaker 2: To stay up on one leg and one arm.

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Speaker 4: Sure, you know, my my a oblique might have to

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Speaker 3: And I guess that's kind of the secret behind contact balance, right,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, there's a there's a

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Speaker 3: So that's awesome. Do you feel yourself getting a rhythm

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Speaker 3: now with the offensive line? You know, you've missed a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: You know, the first two games, I kind of got

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Speaker 4: just knowing where the holes are going to hit on

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Speaker 4: keep hitting it there, you know, one it's not going

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Speaker 4: thinking that they're wrong when I'm wrong, and you got

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Speaker 4: make sure that you know, I'm getting everything right where

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Speaker 2: And then I can make something happen off of that.

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Speaker 3: Obviously it's a rookie, they're still going to be improving

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Speaker 3: over the year, but based on the time you missed

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready to go. You know, I don't. I

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Speaker 2: don't feel like I was held back by any means.

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Speaker 2: Obviously I was.

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Speaker 4: I had an injury that happened, but I don't feel

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Speaker 2: I was mentally there.

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Speaker 4: I was, you know, physically getting as much as I

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Speaker 3: So and you got a great group of guys in

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Speaker 4: But that's just something I bring to the table that

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Speaker 4: I really take pride in, because when I'm physical, then

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Speaker 4: For a physical running back, you feel everyone feeds off you,

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Speaker 4: and then you know when the defense comes off the field,

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Speaker 4: but if I ran somebody over the defense, he's all right,

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Speaker 4: definitely a feeling that you feed off of that energy,

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Speaker 3: I think that's great, ladil bets. He kind of came

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Speaker 3: back experience. Your running backs coach, what has he been

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Speaker 3: kind of helped you along as a rookie.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing is he's

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Speaker 4: He's making sure that, you know, I'm all my stuff

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you talked about being smart and studying. Have you

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Speaker 3: Finally, are you pumped up to getting You mentioned you

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Speaker 3: Have you sensed how much the fans are excited to

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm super juiced. I felt a little bit in

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 3: Scott, good stuff, man, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I apppreciate it.

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Speaker 1: We are now joined by chiefs radio analyst day Us,

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Speaker 1: who is a former Bayone High school star, played wide

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it is definitely good to be on with

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Speaker 1: What it's worth. I wouldn't mind if you got two

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Speaker 5: where we've been third and short, fourth and short, and

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Speaker 5: we haven't gotten the job done. You can look back

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Speaker 5: specifically to the Chargers game and definitely this last game

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Speaker 5: against the Eagles, where if we convert on a couple

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Speaker 5: of those short yarded situations, that game would turn in

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Speaker 5: a different direction. So it's definitely been a factor. I

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Speaker 5: think you can add blame to everything as far as

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Speaker 5: the game plan. As you mentioned going into the games,

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Speaker 5: and as I've always said it, Patrick Mahomes is the

447
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Speaker 5: best player on the earth. Every time he hands the

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Speaker 5: ball off, the best player does not have the ball.

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Speaker 5: So if you're Matt Maggie, if you're Andy Reid, you

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Speaker 5: have to gauge how many times do I want the

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Speaker 5: best player not to have the ball. That's probably something

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Speaker 5: that keeps those guys up at night preparing for games

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Speaker 5: is how much do we want Patrick Mahomes to be

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Speaker 5: able to make his magic? And how much do we

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Speaker 5: want Kareem Hunt and Isaiah Pacheco to take the load off.

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Speaker 5: So I anticipate that there'll be more more running games

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Speaker 5: to come. I also anticipate that Patrick Mahomes will be

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Speaker 5: under center more, which I think will help our running

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Speaker 5: game as opposed to being in the shot run.

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Speaker 1: How much trouble has Simmons had at left tackle. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we all know that he's the first round pick, and

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Speaker 1: I know this particular week he's coming off a little

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Speaker 1: bit of an illness, but you know, to just step

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Speaker 1: in in that spot can be somewhat of a tough

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Speaker 1: transition for some players.

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Speaker 5: It canvy, but it has not been. Not from my

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Speaker 5: dvantage point, he has been phenomenal at that left tackle position.

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Speaker 5: And you consider the pass rushers that he's had to

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Speaker 5: face Khalil Mack in the first week, and then that

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Speaker 5: vaulted Philadelphia Eagles linebacking and outside defensive end corps, and

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Speaker 5: he's really done a nice job. I don't think he's

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Speaker 5: had any pressures, he hasn't given up any sacks. He

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Speaker 5: can be better in the run game, but I think

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Speaker 5: what we signed up for we're getting, and I don't

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Speaker 5: think anyone expected it this quickly as the.

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Speaker 1: Rookie, all Right, So let me go now to that

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Speaker 1: passing game. We talked about the receiving corps not being

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Speaker 1: what it was, but Travis Kelce, who is obviously getting older,

479
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Speaker 1: nobody beats Father time forever. And I know that so

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Speaker 1: much is being made of that tip pass the drop

481
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Speaker 1: pass last week, But you know, anybody who sleeps on

482
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Speaker 1: him is going to be making a very sad mistake

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Speaker 1: because we all know how crafty he is and how

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Speaker 1: for years and years he has always found ways to

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Speaker 1: get open no matter how many people knew he was

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Speaker 1: getting the ball. But how do you see his game

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Speaker 1: changing a bit in terms of the way they're utilizing

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Speaker 1: him or the way that he has been able to

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Speaker 1: maneuver and do what he has done best for so

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Speaker 1: many years.

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Speaker 5: I think with Travis Kelsey won, I don't think that

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Speaker 5: there's ever been a mesh between a quarterback and a

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Speaker 5: wide receiver or a quarterback and tight ends specifically as

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Speaker 5: good as Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. I mean, I've

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Speaker 5: played with Joe Montana, I've seen film of he and

496
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Speaker 5: Jerry Rice and obviously other quarterbacks and their top receivers

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Speaker 5: and tight ends nothing to the level of Travis Kelsey

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Speaker 5: and what he's been able to accomplish with Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 5: having said that when you have Rashi Rice out and

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Speaker 5: Xavier Worthy out, you got to recognize that all of

501
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Speaker 5: the attention is going towards you, And I think Travis

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Speaker 5: will help himself by recognizing, I'm going to be doubled,

503
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Speaker 5: I need to complete my route, I need to be

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Speaker 5: a decoy when I need to be a decoy and

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Speaker 5: help everybody else get open. If you go back to

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Speaker 5: the first week against the Chargers, the reason why Xavier

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Speaker 5: Worthy is hurt because Travis Kelcey crashed into him. When

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Speaker 5: Travis didn't run the right route, he didn't run the

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Speaker 5: depth of his route. He owned up to that. I

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Speaker 5: think there's a lot of maturity in that that he

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Speaker 5: owned up to that on national television and all on

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Speaker 5: his podcast. But poing up to it is one thing.

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Speaker 5: The next thing is how are you going to build

514
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Speaker 5: from that? And how are you going to be better

515
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Speaker 5: the next week and the next week and the next

516
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Speaker 5: week's And that's what I want to see from Travis

517
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Speaker 5: is just recognizing that although you don't have as much

518
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Speaker 5: in the gas tank as were used to, no one does.

519
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Speaker 5: He's about to turn thirty six next month. The fact

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Speaker 5: remains is this is where we are for the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 5: We'll have Xavier Worthy back, I believe this Sunday Night.

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Speaker 5: But he still has a role in this offense. And

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Speaker 5: whether that role for Travis is getting five or six

524
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Speaker 5: targets or being the main recipient of Patrick Mahomes's passes,

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Speaker 5: whichever it is, he's got to be able to fill

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Speaker 5: that up.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's address the style of game then that the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs will want to play, knowing what they do have

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Speaker 1: in the toolbox. Are they a team now that's going

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Speaker 1: to have to win low twenty points scoring games? Because

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Speaker 1: obviously in years past, we all knew they were never

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Speaker 1: going to be afraid to get into a shootout and

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Speaker 1: if they had to score thirty points on any given weekend,

534
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Speaker 1: they were fine with that. Do they have to play

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Speaker 1: it differently now? Because I see Steve Spagnolo, the defensive coordinator, who,

536
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Speaker 1: by the way, Bill Belichick is my favorite defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: of all time, he is blitzing a ton because it

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Speaker 1: seems as though he's very much aware that they've got

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Speaker 1: to keep those numbers down.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I also think that he recognizes with his personnel

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Speaker 5: on the defensive side, that's sitting back and letting teams

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Speaker 5: move the ball down the field, whether they move it

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Speaker 5: Nickelin dining or ten twelve fourteen play drives, doesn't really

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Speaker 5: bode well for us offensively to have our guys on

545
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Speaker 5: the sidelines, so I feel like defensively, they're just trying

546
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Speaker 5: to impose their will. We came out against the Chargers

547
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Speaker 5: pretty laid back. We didn't really have a fire behind us.

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Speaker 5: That was the complete opposite when we played the Egles

549
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Speaker 5: last week. They came out blitzing right in their face.

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Speaker 5: They wanted to set the tone and the tempo of

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Speaker 5: the game. I don't see that changing. I feel like

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Speaker 5: that's gonna be our identity this year. We're not going

553
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Speaker 5: to be a team that's going to be We're going

554
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Speaker 5: to be concerned or satisfied with teams moving the ball

555
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Speaker 5: down the field and taking up time on the clock.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna try to put pressure on them to make

557
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Speaker 5: the plays. And if that play those players are met

558
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Speaker 5: with somebody hitting you in the mouth with the corner

559
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Speaker 5: or safety blitz coming, so be it. You make the play,

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Speaker 5: you tip your cap, and you move on. I feel

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Speaker 5: like that's gonna be the identity of our team. We're

562
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Speaker 5: not gonna be a team that's gonna rush for drop

563
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Speaker 5: seven and play zone and let you complete passes in

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Speaker 5: front of us. We're gonna put freshure on you to

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Speaker 5: make the plays, and sometimes we'll win, sometimes we'll lose

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Speaker 5: on those plays, or we're gonna line up and do

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Speaker 5: it again right afterwards.

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Speaker 1: You know, though the first two games, I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: some of these numbers, and I guess next Gen Stats

570
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Speaker 1: says that teams have only hit the big play long

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Speaker 1: pass through the air against Kansas City once in eight tries.

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Speaker 1: And when you play a heavy blitz defense, that's high risk,

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Ward, it doesn't look like that high risk has

574
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Speaker 1: necessarily been there for the other team in terms of

575
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Speaker 1: trying to throw the deep. They're not getting the plays

576
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Speaker 1: that they should be getting.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's a testament to the pressure, the timing

578
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Speaker 5: of the pressure, and then also the coverage skills of

579
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Speaker 5: our defensive bats and not getting any penalties as well.

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Speaker 5: You know as well as I do that completing a

581
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Speaker 5: pass down the field one on one coverage is just

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Speaker 5: as equal to a pass in appearance, and a lot

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Speaker 5: of times in the NFL, those flags come out down

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Speaker 5: the field and it's just like a completed pass. We've

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Speaker 5: been pretty clean in that area. So to play the

586
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Speaker 5: way we're playing it is a role the dice type

587
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Speaker 5: of mentality, but it's it's exactly what we need to be,

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Speaker 5: what we need to do to put ourselves in a

589
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Speaker 5: position to win. Think about last week against the Eagles,

590
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Speaker 5: we don't Jalen Hurts threw for one hundred and one yards.

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Speaker 5: One of those players was in the fourth quarter in

592
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Speaker 5: a crucial situation where he threw the ball twenty eight

593
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Speaker 5: yards down the field of Devonte Smith. I think that

594
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Speaker 5: was third, third and long. We blitzed, we got beat.

595
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Speaker 5: They caught the ball inside the five yard line, and

596
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Speaker 5: he not completed that pass, he would have ended the

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Speaker 5: day with seventy three yards passing. I know, Superbowlion camp,

598
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Speaker 5: what about seventy three yards passing? So to your point

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Speaker 5: in regards to blitzing, feast of famine, that's that's a

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Speaker 5: recipe for success. Now. Is that gonna work the same

601
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Speaker 5: way for every team? I don't know, but I trust

602
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Speaker 5: Fads and I know he's he's gonna have his guy

603
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Speaker 5: dialed in Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's always got that thing working in the laboratory.

605
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Speaker 1: He'll come up with something. I know him all too well.

606
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Speaker 1: I got to ask you about Chris Jones for a second,

607
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Speaker 1: because you know, he has been such a dominant player

608
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Speaker 1: over the years to this point. He doesn't have a

609
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Speaker 1: great stat line, but I know enough to know again

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Speaker 1: you never sleep on him. Are they moving him around

611
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Speaker 1: as much as they had done some in the past, Yeah,

612
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Speaker 1: they are.

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Speaker 5: He's playing interior basically all four positions. When he moves outside,

614
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Speaker 5: he's usually moving outside against the offense is right tackle,

615
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Speaker 5: so he's right in the face of the quarterback, and

616
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Speaker 5: he's been close to making some plays. But I think

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Speaker 5: he would tell you, just like me, the stats are

618
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Speaker 5: not where they need to be. The big plays, the

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Speaker 5: game changing plays are not where they need to be

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Speaker 5: for him, if he's considered ever since Aaron Donald left

621
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Speaker 5: the game, if he's been considered one of the top,

622
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Speaker 5: if not de top defensive tackles in the league, the

623
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Speaker 5: numbers don't show it right now. And I think he's

624
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Speaker 5: going to be the first one to challenge himself in

625
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Speaker 5: that zone and try to do better, and then we

626
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Speaker 5: need some game changing plays. You look at our defense.

627
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Speaker 5: We've only got we don't have any takeaways on the season.

628
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Speaker 5: We haven't we haven't called the turnover in either game

629
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Speaker 5: this season. Now we've only given the ball up once.

630
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Speaker 5: But we are we are a team that drives off

631
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Speaker 5: the turnovers. If you're talking about the blitzes and the

632
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Speaker 5: pressures of spags, those are supposed to cause those are

633
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Speaker 5: supposed to cause errors and miscues, and they just haven't yet.

634
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Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie is the biggest name factor in the secondary,

635
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Speaker 1: but as we said, despite the blitzes, the secondary has

636
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Speaker 1: not really been beat deep outside of one long throw

637
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Speaker 1: in the first two weeks. What should I know about

638
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Speaker 1: that secondary and how they would probably like to play

639
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Speaker 1: guys like Malik Neighbors and Windale Robinson who showed that

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Speaker 1: they can be very explosive through the first couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks of the season.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think it's going to be one of the

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Speaker 5: more physical cores that the Giants are going to play

644
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Speaker 5: and Elik Neighbors and Slayton and those guys, and on

645
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Speaker 5: their end, they're going to have their hands full because

646
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Speaker 5: it's we don't disguise. We just line up and play

647
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 5: man and man coverage, bump and run, and those guys

648
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Speaker 5: are lining up and they're going to hit you in

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Speaker 5: the mouth. Now, Trent McDuffie with Christian Fulton, that's going

650
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Speaker 5: to be a key name. He hurt his ankle uh

651
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Speaker 5: and that's a factor in our defensive backfield because when Christian,

652
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Speaker 5: who was a free agent that we got from the Chargers,

653
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Speaker 5: came over, that allowed Trent McDuffie to move inside at

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Speaker 5: the nickelback position, and that's where he can be most

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Speaker 5: effective because he's a blitzer. Plus he can play physically

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Speaker 5: with that number two receiver or tight end in the slot.

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Speaker 5: Without Christian, now you've got to keep Trent outside, so

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Speaker 5: that can be a little bit of a hindrance. But

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Speaker 5: last week against the Eagles, on the first series, you

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Speaker 5: saw every defensive back blitz the quarterback except for Brian Cook,

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Speaker 5: who's this free safety in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 5: Every defensive back that was on the field, Shamari Connor,

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Speaker 5: Jayden Hicks, Trent McDuffie, Jalen Watson, every one of them

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Speaker 5: blitz the quarterback. That's what I think we're gonna see

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Speaker 5: against Russell Wilson and this Giants offense. And then we

666
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Speaker 5: just have to cover down the field because Russell's always

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Speaker 5: been one of the best at throwing the deep ball.

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Speaker 1: Would they consider doubling neighbors. Would they tell McDuffie maybe

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Speaker 1: you should plaster to him and just take him one

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Speaker 1: on one.

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Speaker 5: I think it'll be a mixture. I don't think there's

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Speaker 5: gonna there's gonna be a one trick pony type of situation.

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Speaker 5: We did not double A. J. Brown. We did not

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Speaker 5: double Devon Smith. We did not double Keenan Keenan Allen.

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Speaker 5: We did not double multiple guys Lad McConkey for the

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Speaker 5: Chargers in the last two weeks. Now, does that mean

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Speaker 5: that we won't have somebody eyeing the slant route or

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Speaker 5: the inn routes having a safety on the inside for

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Speaker 5: elite neighbors. I don't know, But I think there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of confidence that our guys can line up. I

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Speaker 5: mean there during their fourth year. They've been the three

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Speaker 5: straight Super Bowls. Uh Trump McDuffie is an all pro,

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Speaker 5: like we've we've seen the best and we've played the

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Speaker 5: best man in man. So I don't I don't think

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Speaker 5: that they'll change anything.

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Speaker 1: All right, final thought, Danan, before I let you go

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Speaker 1: the Special Teams unit, as we were told here by

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Speaker 1: Michael Goldbrial, the Giant Special Teams coordinator, they are very

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Speaker 1: willing to use trick plays. They are a very well

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Speaker 1: coached unit, and they can certainly be the difference in

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Speaker 1: a close game. Basically talking about the Chiefs being oh

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Speaker 1: and two, how desperate are they and is this the

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Speaker 1: kind of thing where it might be a bag of

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Speaker 1: tricks that on special teams could potentially pose the difference

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Speaker 1: in the game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't put anything past the team. And if

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Speaker 5: people want to say that we're desperate, I guess that

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Speaker 5: any Owen TEA two team. I don't think we're any

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Speaker 5: more desperate than any other oh and two team. We

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Speaker 5: just want to get a win on the board. We

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Speaker 5: feel like we left a couple of wins on the

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Speaker 5: table those last two weeks. But special Team, they've told

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Speaker 5: is the best in the business, haven't been for many years,

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Speaker 5: and preparing the special teams unit for anything as far

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Speaker 5: as being a defender of it. And then also we've

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Speaker 5: seen Harrison Bucker and in the past when Tommy Townsend

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Speaker 5: was our punter run some fun fake punts as well.

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Speaker 5: So I don't put anything past them. I think this

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Speaker 5: is a game Sunday night football, prime time. You never

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Speaker 5: know what you're gonna see, so it's gonna be a

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Speaker 5: fun matchup.

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Speaker 1: Former Achieves wide receiver Danan Hughes and a former bayone

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Speaker 1: B star. We thank you so much for your time,

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Speaker 1: Danan appreciate it, and we wish you the best of

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Speaker 1: luck the rest of the way.

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Speaker 6: If you want to know how to manage two minutes

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Speaker 6: of crunch time football, I'm your man.

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Speaker 3: All right, now, let's turn to head Coach of the Giants,

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Speaker 3: Brian Dable. He's with the Voice of the Giants, Bob Papa.

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Speaker 6: As always, were joined by the head coach of the

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Speaker 6: new York Giants, Brian Dable and coach. Obviously, you got

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Speaker 6: to defend the AFC champions coming into town. But let's

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Speaker 6: just for our audience go back to last week in

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Speaker 6: the sense of a lot of positives from that football game.

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Speaker 6: What was your messaging this week to your team after

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Speaker 6: that loss and the positives that you took from it.

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Speaker 7: You know, offensively, we created a lot of explosive plays

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Speaker 7: and that certainly helps in scoring points. Helps your offensive

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Speaker 7: football team, your defensive football team. You know, I think

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Speaker 7: we got to do a better job of finishing in

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Speaker 7: the fourth quarter. We gotta do a better job in

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Speaker 7: the red zone. That's got us first two games, both

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Speaker 7: offensively and defensively. I think our kicking game has been

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Speaker 7: good the first two weeks. That'll go a long way.

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Speaker 7: But you know, there's there's They play with a lot

747
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Speaker 7: of effort, a lot of energy, just you know, came

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Speaker 7: up short.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 6: So you got Kansas City. They're in a similar boat here.

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Speaker 6: They haven't won yet this year, but we know what

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Speaker 6: they have on the offensive side of the ball. Pachecko

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Speaker 6: and Hunt, let's start with them, because if they get

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Speaker 6: that and rolling a lot of things, then kind of

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Speaker 6: flow off that. Just talk about their run game and

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Speaker 6: and what makes them such a challenge.

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Speaker 7: Well, they're both tough runners. You know, they run a

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Speaker 7: variety of runs, both inside and outside. But they they

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Speaker 7: do a good job of those backs of see increases

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Speaker 7: and getting the ball downhill and running with power. They're

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Speaker 7: aggressive runners, they break tackles. So that's that's kind of

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Speaker 7: where it starts. Relative to the style that they play with,

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Speaker 7: you know, and again the scheme, they have a number

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Speaker 7: of things that they do and then you add you know,

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Speaker 7: those two guys with the with the legs of Mahomes

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Speaker 7: and the scrambling ability. Unnecessarily design runs or anything like that,

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Speaker 7: but he just has a a great feel for extending

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Speaker 7: plays and then can get you with his arm. But

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Speaker 7: you know he's shown he can get you his legs too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, coach, I mean, he leads their team in rushing.

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Speaker 6: But it's not you know, Lamar Jackson, Jade and Daniels

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Speaker 6: style where there's some plays in there that is designed

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Speaker 6: for him to run. How do you try to sort

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Speaker 6: of keep him contained so that he can't beat you

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Speaker 6: with his legs?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you have to have you have to have tight

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Speaker 7: coverage and you have to have good rush integrity. But again,

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Speaker 7: he's going to make some of these plays. He has

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Speaker 7: his entire career. That's why he is who he is.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna have to do a good job of complimenting

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Speaker 7: the rush and the coverage and making sure those are

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Speaker 7: locked in.

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Speaker 6: Coach the instinctive plays, you know, obviously we saw it

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Speaker 6: for years with Brady and Gronkowski where it almost felt

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Speaker 6: like they just understood each other, knowing where to be

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Speaker 6: or how to uncover. What are some of the things

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Speaker 6: that you can do to sort of limit limit some

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Speaker 6: of those off schedule plays.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Again, it goes back to defending the first play

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Speaker 7: and then being very good of defending the second play,

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Speaker 7: being tight on your man, making sure we're rushing the

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Speaker 7: proper way. Again, guy like you know specifically talking about

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Speaker 7: Kelsey that you mentioned Brady and Gronk. You know, that's

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Speaker 7: a lot of time on task for those guys. They

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Speaker 7: built up a lot of trust. They can read each

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Speaker 7: other very very well, and we don't have to do

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Speaker 7: a good job if they make them of making a

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Speaker 7: tackle and not in allow extra yards.

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Speaker 6: We talked earlier in the week about what they bring

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Speaker 6: defensively to the table. You know, you take a look

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Speaker 6: at this this unit and you you know, you look

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Speaker 6: at some of the names on there. Obviously Chris Jones

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Speaker 6: is one of these guys that's been a stud for

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Speaker 6: a long time. But you know, spags and what he

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Speaker 6: wants to do to you defensively, to disrupt you offensively,

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Speaker 6: how do you prepare for what he might or bring

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Speaker 6: in certain situations.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's challenging the fact that they do so much.

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Speaker 7: So you know, the odds of practicing against an exact

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Speaker 7: look that you're going to get in the game is it's.

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Speaker 6: Probably pretty low.

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Speaker 7: So you have to fall back on your rules and

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Speaker 7: make sure the community cation is is the number one

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Speaker 7: thing relative to you know, points in the run game,

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Speaker 7: in the past game. Knowing who we have in protection,

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Speaker 7: we understand when you know, when they got to have

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Speaker 7: it or things are are not going exactly the way

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Speaker 7: they want them, that it's probably going to be some

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Speaker 7: type of pressure.

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Speaker 6: And those pressures all vary.

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Speaker 7: They bring secondary players, linebackers, drop, defensive linemen, do a

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Speaker 7: bunch of a bunch of different things, so you know

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Speaker 7: you're gonna have to really do a good job of

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Speaker 7: communicating and following your rules.

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Speaker 6: Is that where having a veteran quarterback that's you know,

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Speaker 6: a guy that's been in the league for as long

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Speaker 6: as Russell Wilson comes in handy in the sense of

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Speaker 6: maybe being able to get a snapshot at the last

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Speaker 6: second that a younger guy.

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Speaker 2: Might not see.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean they do.

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Speaker 7: They do a really good job of disguising as well.

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Speaker 7: So you know, for for quarterbacks, it's it's pre snap things,

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Speaker 7: but more importantly it's it's the post snap and being

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Speaker 7: execute at a high level, trusting your eyes and doing

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Speaker 7: a good job of going where you're supposed to go

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Speaker 7: with the football coach.

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Speaker 6: We always we always put that on the quarterback and

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Speaker 6: rightfully so. But doesn't doesn't that come into play for

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Speaker 6: your receivers as well, to be aware and alert and

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Speaker 6: on the same page, because you know, if he knows

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Speaker 6: where he's going with it, but you don't know where

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Speaker 6: you're running to based on what they're throwing at you,

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Speaker 6: it doesn't really matter. Yeah, absolutely, Bob.

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Speaker 7: I mean it's very similar what we talked about on

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Speaker 7: the other side is when you tie in the front

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Speaker 7: and the coverage, you got to do a good job

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Speaker 7: all around. All eleven people have to be on point.

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Speaker 7: It takes one guy for a play to be disrupted

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Speaker 7: if we do the wrong thing. So everybody's got to

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Speaker 7: be locked in and focus on, you know, not just

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Speaker 7: pre snap things, but post snap things, and then ultimately

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Speaker 7: doing their.

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Speaker 6: Job at high level. Coach, just finally at kickoff, the

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Speaker 6: place is going to be electric, right Primetime game Chiefs

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Speaker 6: only come into town once every eight years, Giants only

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Speaker 6: play them once every four They're a big time national

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00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 6: brand as well as the Giants are. Does it do

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Speaker 6: you get excited for it? Are you so focused right

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Speaker 6: around kickoff on that none of that stuff even really

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Speaker 6: you notice?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I'm certainly appreciative of the fans. You know,

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Speaker 7: we're looking forward to a great environment. But again, to

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Speaker 7: get a home field advantage, you have to play well

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Speaker 7: and you have to give people reason to go ahead

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Speaker 7: and be loud when they need to be loud, and

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Speaker 7: you know that's where all our focus is.

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Speaker 6: Coach, We wish you the best of luck. We'll do

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Speaker 6: it again next week. Thanks guys, great stuff from all

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Speaker 6: of our guests.

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Speaker 3: We thank Cam Scattabo pop up Danon Hughes for all

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Speaker 3: joining us on Friday's edition of the Giants. Little podcast

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Speaker 3: brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants,

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Speaker 3: coming to you from the Hackensack and morine Hill Podcast Studio.

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Speaker 3: Keep getting better. I am John Schwilk. We'll see you

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Speaker 3: next time.