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Speaker 2: I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amazon, and this is the

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Speaker 2: PAC twelve Apostles. Thank you guys for joining us today.

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, I guess it would die at some

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Speaker 3: point in time when we die, but maybe it'll continue

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Speaker 3: a dark intro. You know, you have a stream of consciousness.

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Speaker 4: You're like when you're in mid sentence and you realize

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Speaker 4: life is finite.

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Speaker 2: Yes exactly, yes exactly. So I'm sitting here thinking what

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Speaker 2: the hell is going on with well, with the PAC

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Speaker 2: twelve in college football this season? Because we almost got

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Speaker 2: like an absolutely insane result this weekend. And before we

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Speaker 2: get to the game, though, we still got a bunch

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Speaker 2: to talk about because the ap pole came out and

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Speaker 2: you know, if you guys go to YouTube, George Reister,

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Speaker 2: there's a whole series on these things. And this week

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Speaker 2: though the AP pole, it took the two first place

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Speaker 2: votes that Washington had took him and snatched them back

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Speaker 3: Are you surprised by that?

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Speaker 4: No? Not really are there surprises anymore besides Washington not

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Speaker 3: Touchdown, which was incredibly surprising.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not necessarily you No, I figured that after.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, Washington probably wished that that game

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Speaker 2: was on Pack twelve, network number number one and not

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Speaker 2: FS one. But but being that it wasn't, you had

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Speaker 2: at it was not. It was night, night time about

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Speaker 2: halftime and it was seven to three, and you were like, wait, wait, wait,

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Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, time out. I can't go to

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Speaker 2: bed comfortably yet because something weird is going on, Like,

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Speaker 3: What did did?

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Speaker 2: Did did Kaitlin the Boar fall down a flight of

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Speaker 4: Did?

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Speaker 3: Did did Ryan Grubb you know, walk out of the Boothe? Like,

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Speaker 3: what the hell happened?

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Speaker 2: So so you couldn't sleep comfortably and anybody that saw it, dude,

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Speaker 2: Arizona State had them in an absolute headlock, so I

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Speaker 2: was not surprised by that. Oregon's holding strong. I actually

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Speaker 2: think the PAC twelve is in a really good spot

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Speaker 2: to get two teams into playoffs like this could really happen.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Granted, this is the PAC twelve, so there will be

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Speaker 2: some kind of way that this potentially gets screwed up,

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Speaker 2: but as for now, I'm saying there's a chance.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And the PAC twelve right now is the vibe

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Speaker 4: of the like. National respect has US as the third

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Speaker 4: best conference right now, and that is pretty much the

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Speaker 4: best you can hope for with how difficult it is

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Speaker 4: to just consume PAC twelve content. If you're a national

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Speaker 4: these things, you know, a lot of them are out East,

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Speaker 4: and they hate the ACC way more than they hate us.

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Speaker 4: ACC has two one loss teams that are the lowest

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Speaker 4: Nobody's taking the Big twelve seriously outside of the two

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Speaker 4: USC is a two loss team. They look like they're

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Speaker 2: Well, what would make the season even more disappointing for

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Speaker 2: you had and Manual Acho this week, and there's a

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Speaker 2: by Emmanuel Acho talking about Caleb Williams should sit out. Dude,

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Speaker 2: if I were if I worked for Fox, first and foremost,

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Speaker 3: What's up with you?

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Speaker 2: Like you know that we may have more USC games

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Speaker 4: And we got you on the desk on Saturday with

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Speaker 4: Chris Peterson. Yes, like we got you on the desk,

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Speaker 4: like your your job is to promote the sport of

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Speaker 4: college football. I can't imagine Reese Davis doing this.

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Speaker 2: No, No, even if Reese Davis thought it, he would

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I don't think Reese Davis would

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Speaker 2: Second thing is, he definitely would not say it.

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Speaker 3: It's confusing to me because.

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Speaker 2: I understand the NFL part of it, the money part

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Speaker 2: of it, and all of that. He's undoubtedly insured up

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Speaker 2: And he's like top three insured, not like number you

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Speaker 2: top fifty. No, he's top three or top one insurance

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Speaker 2: and like that. If an injury causes him to fall

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Speaker 2: burrito buddy, they're paying out. So and when you look

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Speaker 2: came back and followed that up with a pretty mid

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Speaker 4: A mid game against Utah is a good game against

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that wouldn't I wouldn't, yeah, exactly, but it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but we know you, and I know you,

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Speaker 4: and I know that, like some of those throws he

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Speaker 2: Correct, And then to sit out the rest of the

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Speaker 2: season when you have Washington, Oregon in UCLA left on

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Speaker 2: You got three more at least just as tough, probably

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Speaker 2: talked to an NFL scout and him like, Yo, that

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Speaker 3: That would not be good. We would have completely advise

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Speaker 4: Forget the NFL for a second. He's got ten plus

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Speaker 4: major corporate partners, and he would be turned down the

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Speaker 4: Water gave like one hundred thousand dollars to his anti

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Speaker 4: bullying charity. He's got a non alcoholic beer sponsor that's

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Speaker 4: also a major sponsor of the Pac twelve Athletic broke company.

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Speaker 4: Like he's in the Heisman House, the Nissan commercials, He's

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Speaker 4: in the Doctor Pepper Fansville commercials. The college football's biggest

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Speaker 4: sponsors are also on team Caleb Williams, Yep, they it's rumored,

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Speaker 4: and I feel like this is low. I really do that.

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Speaker 4: He's making two point six million in sponsorships this season.

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Speaker 4: Feels low. Feels low. But that's a lot of money, dude,

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Speaker 4: and you're gonna hurt your relationship with all of these

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Speaker 4: corporate sponsors. He also has the opportunity, like he, you're

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Speaker 4: in a position now where you could announce a shoe

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Speaker 2: Oh dude, dude, Nike is working on his shoe deal

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Speaker 2: as we speak. Brother, as you think speak.

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Speaker 4: You think they want him chilling No at home?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not? That is that? Well, yeah, absolutely not? That

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Speaker 3: would be a uh that would be a a how

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Speaker 3: do you say a fool's errand that would be a

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Speaker 4: There, and football like even like the what's weird is

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Speaker 4: you have some galaxy bring people out here that are like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: if if I had tens of millions of dollars on

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Speaker 4: what we're talking about here. We're talking about your tens

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Speaker 4: of millions of dollars being on the line from somebody

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Speaker 4: who's interested in your current work. It's a completely different situation.

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Speaker 4: And the majority of America hate quitters. You hate them.

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Speaker 3: With a passion like that.

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Speaker 2: That is the logical passion get you jammed up more

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Speaker 4: You you as a person. It's weird because we label

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Speaker 4: people like are you a Lebron defender? Or like you

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Speaker 4: as a person acknowledge Lebron's place in sports history, basketball history? Yes,

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Speaker 4: you're not out here purposefully trying to deny it, and

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Speaker 4: you enjoy it when he does well and to you,

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Speaker 4: he's rushmore like yes, oh yes, right, I would think

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Speaker 4: that even you could admit Game five against this purse

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Speaker 4: when he's in Cleveland, isn't the best thing for his legacy?

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Speaker 2: No, no, but but but he's put so much else

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Speaker 4: Yes, this is twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So I don't believe that. Well, I just

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Speaker 3: That would be the wrong thing to do. But we're

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Speaker 3: also going to do heavy.

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Speaker 2: Deep dives into his personal life.

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Speaker 3: Has he ever quit on a team ever? Before? Going

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Speaker 3: back to pee wee football? I was like, pee wee, yes,

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Speaker 2: Going back as far as you can go, talking to

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Speaker 2: they get information that they are not supposed to get

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Speaker 4: Yeah, scouts are going to be asking questions like was

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Speaker 4: it Caleb Williams idea to paint f Utah Fasu on

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Speaker 4: his nails? Or was it his mom's? And then they're

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Speaker 4: gonna have a different opinion. I'm like, well, if it

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Speaker 4: some bad ideas. They're gonna parse everything this dude's ever done.

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Speaker 4: Quitting is gonna be an easy one for them to be, like, oh,

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Speaker 4: like he he's he's a host unto himself. He cares

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Speaker 4: to see him again in the NFL. He's gonna quit

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some of the some of these NFL coaches are

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yes he is. Uh and and and they're

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Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, I don't know, Like what what do

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Speaker 3: YEP.

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Speaker 2: So now Lincoln Riley has missed practice Monday Tuesday, and

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Speaker 4: and it might, you know, I don't know. So Dennis

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Speaker 4: they're gonna elevate Cliff Kingsbury as a Cardinals van. Yikes,

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Speaker 4: He is not accessible, He's not gonna be around till

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Speaker 2: Oh god, bro, Bro, if he takes an NFL job

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Speaker 2: now after this, this would be yeah, yeah, this would

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Speaker 3: Of all time.

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Speaker 2: Like, because you got people in Oklahoma that would hate him.

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Speaker 2: because that would just regardless of whether it's true or

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Speaker 4: Have you ever been beat by Utah three times in

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Speaker 2: Because I have no no idea what that's like.

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Speaker 4: It makes you feel a certain way. So my fault

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Speaker 3: How do you lose three times in a row?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't be me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it won't be you because you don't have to

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Speaker 2: Well, even if even if that were the case, that

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Speaker 3: And and and I think that that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: Years in a row. Sorry, I almost knock my head

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Speaker 3: I still know.

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Speaker 2: But but obviously I've spoken glowingly about the Washington program,

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Speaker 4: So it's not it's not. It's not the converted safety

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, is like, I'm watching all of these Big

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Speaker 2: Are gonna dude, there's gonna be Big twelve chips every

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Speaker 4: God, in the Pac twelve, We're like, how the hell

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Speaker 4: This is ridiculous. Under twenty five points a game in

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Speaker 4: Utah still got ASU and Colorado on their upcoming schedule. Like,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna see what what Utah's level of physicality does

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Speaker 4: to one team that doesn't have that level of physicality

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Speaker 4: You're going to have a wide receivers plan O line

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Speaker 2: Dude, Arizona State. Is there anything else that we need

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Speaker 4: well he got put out and I I guess the

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00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 4: funny The funniest thing about it was it's two coaches long,

440
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 4: because it really like everybody's either new or doing a

441
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 4: decent job. And uh so, you I asked you if

442
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 4: you could guess the two coaches because they told you

443
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 4: they both weren't head coaches, only one was, and you

444
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 4: got it immediately. You didn't even have to.

445
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 3: Like noot Alex Grinch.

446
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and my former teammate Justin Wilcox.

447
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,479
Speaker 4: Who is not getting fired no.

448
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: No, which is crazy if he were at anywhere else

449
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: besides Cal. And mind you, I'm not calling for the

450
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: man's job. We're just speaking about the reality of college football.

451
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: If he were at any other institution, it would be over.

452
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he's in what year seven and he has

453
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 4: a losing record.

454
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: Well, it's just not getting better like that. That's the like,

455
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: that's the bit, because you can deal with bad things

456
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: when you came out of a bad situation in COVID

457
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 2: all of that stuff when there is hope. But the

458
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: but the problem is that Cal doesn't have hope right now.

459
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: There's no hope that the future is brighter in the past.

460
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 3: Right now.

461
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 4: CAL football reminds me so much of California high school

462
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: football because you'll be like, hey, you should come check

463
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 4: this team out. They got like this four star, this

464
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 4: five star. They got two O linemen that are both

465
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 4: going to go to the Big Ten. They got a

466
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 4: dB that runs the four to three. And you'd be like,

467
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,479
Speaker 4: oh my god, are they like undefeated? And you'd be like, well,

468
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 4: they're two and six. You know what, I'm saying, like,

469
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 4: that's because cal still is putting some serious athletes out there.

470
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 4: They have a receiver who I think is a like

471
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: legitimate NFL guy. They've got a couple of running backs

472
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 4: who are a lot of fun to watch. They got

473
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 4: a couple of dbs that are a lot of fun

474
00:27:59,119 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 4: to watch.

475
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: So in Arizona and in North Carolina, do teams with

476
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: losing records go to the playoffs? Because they do here

477
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: in California, Like, there's gonna be like three and seven

478
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: teams in certain divisions.

479
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: There are teams that are.

480
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: Like that are going to finish, that are five and

481
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: four right now, that are projected to be because they're

482
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: in the Trinity League obviously, that are going to be

483
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: in Division two in the playoffs.

484
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. And so in Arizona, if all of your losses

485
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 4: were to playoff teams, you're getting in because of your

486
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 4: strength to schedule. So every year there's like one or

487
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 4: two three and seven teams and all seven of their

488
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 4: losses are the top ten teams in the state. Yes, Oh,

489
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 4: they usually end up being pretty good in the playoffs.

490
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 4: And then in North Carolina, I think you have to

491
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 4: be good. I think if the playoffs here are massive.

492
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 4: They're like thirty two teams instead of sixteen or something

493
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 4: like that. But I don't don't you never see losing records.

494
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 4: Division goes up to four here, and the reason is

495
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 4: because there's so many private schools in North Carolina that

496
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 4: don't and the private school is its own league, it

497
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 4: doesn't play, so all the schools were together, you might

498
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: have more divisions, but the top division here is just four,

499
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 4: and I think that's like any school with more than

500
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: fifteen hundred kids.

501
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: Oh see here, it has nothing any more to do

502
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: with the size of your school.

503
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 4: It is.

504
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: There's colpreps dot com where you can see the computer rankings,

505
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: and you are slotted in your division by the computer rankings,

506
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: even though the computer computer rankings are kind of lame

507
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: because they're based upon how you kind of came into

508
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: the beginning of the season. And like, for instance, my

509
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: son's team at Englewood, we came into the season in

510
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: like the forties, but in the state. But then our schedule,

511
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: the back half of our schedule was super light, super light,

512
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: except for the team that we play losinger last week,

513
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: that was ranked forty one. We came into the game

514
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: ranked eighty something and we're seven to two. The only

515
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: teams that we lost to were Carlsbad with which is

516
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: in the top ten in the state, and Lincoln, which

517
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: is in the top ten in the state. Those are

518
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: our only two losses. Everybody else has gotten their doors

519
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: knocked off except for Losinger, who we played last week,

520
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: who was ranked forty one, but they had like four losses.

521
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 4: So you are Inglewood is the equivalent of like a

522
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 4: James Madison. You're a seven to zero rank low because the.

523
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: Schedule was but they were a Division two team last year.

524
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: So when we were at Sierra Canyon last year, we

525
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: played Inglewood.

526
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 3: In the playoffs. Oh okay, in the in the state playoffs,

527
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: So like what would you have to do.

528
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 4: To not make the playoffs in California.

529
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: So there's like.

530
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: Twelve divisions I think, yikes and that and that's just

531
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: in the in the Southern Section side, so and there's

532
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: also the City Section side, so because there are city

533
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: schools and there are Southern Section schools.

534
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 4: So it's California's fault that we got five and seven

535
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 4: bowl teams because you have these kids coming out California

536
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 4: at school football getting into the n c double a

537
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 4: get to five and seven, Like, what do you mean

538
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 4: we don't have a postseason?

539
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, that's funny. Yeah, yeah, so it's it's it's

540
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: complicated to say the least.

541
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 4: But yeah, so will Cox and Grinch, that's that's the

542
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 4: that's our current. Uh And I mean the Grinch thing

543
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 4: is interesting because that is a personal loyalty thing, not

544
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 4: a performance thing. So you can call for his job

545
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: all you want. It's really gonna be up to Lincoln

546
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 4: Riley and how he feels.

547
00:31:53,400 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: There's which Kelly em with with Jerry Asnarro. Yes, yeah,

548
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: there's no way he can't fire him.

549
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: Revisionist history with Chip Kelly admit that he should have

550
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 4: fired Jerry as an.

551
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: R No, Nope, that's wild.

552
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 4: That's wild. Meanwhile, Asus three games end of the season,

553
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 4: taking away play calling duties from their first year offensive.

554
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: Coordinated Yes so you yes, so Bobos not like.

555
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 4: They're playing for championships. They're just trying to win a.

556
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: Game, yep.

557
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that and that young young man was like, Nope, nope,

558
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: I guess I'll be doing this too. Now on to

559
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: the games, baby, So uh, first up, I guess in

560
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: chronological order, because the pac twelve games. First one started

561
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: at twelve thirty. You had my Oregon Ducks. Oh my god,

562
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 2: bro whoa thirty eight Washington State twenty four. I was

563
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: furious at the end of this game, Ralph, furious.

564
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 4: You went four and one in your in your five

565
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: picks and this was the one Yes?

566
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: And why and why? Was it because a dumb ass late.

567
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: Touchdown, garbage touchdown? Yeah, we don't have time.

568
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: For your your little, sorry ass garbage touchdowns. I don't

569
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: blame Washington State for this. I blame Oregon for this.

570
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: This was a twenty point win, just easy, like I

571
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: felt really good about it.

572
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: It was thirty eight to sixteen.

573
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: We we could have had another touchdown, but a penalty

574
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: negated that situation. So I almost got my fifty to

575
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: ten damn near. But no, you had Oregon thirty eight

576
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: Washington State twenty four. And I heard people from the

577
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: Oregon side saying, ooh, maybe.

578
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: Cam Moore can be our quarterback next year.

579
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: I was like, no, absolutely, not, no way, no, how

580
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: don't want them.

581
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 4: That's not Oregon style. Oregon style is to is to

582
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 4: is the I guess what the better uh lack of

583
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 4: a better term for it. The power dink and dunk

584
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 4: like the DeAndre Ayton of college football offenses.

585
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: Wow, wow, how are you?

586
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 4: But we're just this lay up, lay up, lay up,

587
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: lay up, lay up. It's very frustrating and almost impossible

588
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 4: to stop. I had a hot take at the beginning

589
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: of the game, though, what's that because it was a struggle,

590
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 4: it was a rock fight, and I was like the

591
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 4: Oregon's commitment to just being themselves and not making adjustments

592
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 4: was not Uh, it was frustrating.

593
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: Why what what do you what do you mean by that?

594
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 4: We've talked about the fact that Oregon is gonna be

595
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 4: Oregon regardless and the you I think even you would

596
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 4: admit that the first bit of this game was messy

597
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: because they were aggressive. Uh, and then when they weren't,

598
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 4: you know, they missed a field goal and they just

599
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 4: they just do things exactly the way that you expect

600
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 4: to do them. The whole thing is they're better than you,

601
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: so over time it's gonna wear you down. But yeah,

602
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 4: it was just it was It was very much how

603
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 4: the Washington game went of, Like Oregon's just gonna be Oregon.

604
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 4: It doesn't what you're doing. They're just gonna go out

605
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 4: they're gonna be Oregon, and if it works, it works.

606
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 4: And in this case, they pulled away and they were

607
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 4: never really in danger. No, let's get into some of

608
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 4: the pain points though. See if you feel any of them. Okay,

609
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 4: sixteen catches for Victor does that bother you?

610
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 2: Not even a little bit, Not even a little bit

611
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 2: do we? We played Utah State when I was in

612
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: college and they had oh god, there was white wide

613
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: receiver that went and played for the Rams for a

614
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: little while. Uh he caught like and I'm not talking

615
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: about Cooper, I'm talking about prior to him. Dude, he

616
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: must have caught like twenty two passes against us, and

617
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: we beat them by like thirty some points. So, like

618
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: when you're running screens and you're running all these drags

619
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: and unders and all of that stuff, that doesn't bother

620
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: me at all. Like a dude who finishes with sixteen

621
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 2: catches for one sixty one when is long as thirty seven,

622
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: That doesn't bother me that much. But but you know

623
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: what does bother me? What twenty nine, twenty seven, thirty seven,

624
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: forty seven and thirty seven.

625
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: That's what bothers me.

626
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 4: That was a lot of explosive plays man.

627
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's five just from the receivers alone.

628
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 4: Well that's what made cam Ward finish the game with

629
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 4: a nine point one yards per attempt on forty eight

630
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 4: freaking attempts.

631
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

632
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, the dude finished with four hundred and thirty eight

633
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: yards like that. I mean, granted, when they got in

634
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 2: the red zone, they weren't able to cash in, right.

635
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 4: And they're not there. Did you see what I was

636
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 4: talking about last week? And I'm like, they're small.

637
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yep, yeah, they can't run the football. They

638
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 2: tried to run the football. Oregon was like, no, that's

639
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: what you're not gonna do. And as soon as you

640
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: can't run the football, you are one dimensional. And then yeah,

641
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: and then they can key on that in the in

642
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: the red zone, and then you're just gonna end up

643
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: with Phil goals, field goals, field goals, and field goals

644
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: will not beat Dorg.

645
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna You're gonna have to do something with

646
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 4: Evan Williams though, because they they picked on him quite

647
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 4: a bit.

648
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: You're, yeah, he's had back to back rough games.

649
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 4: He shouldn't finish with fourteen tackles.

650
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh that's not good, mam.

651
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 4: Now one of those was a tackle for loss. So

652
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 4: let's say he shouldn't finish with thirteen of those fourteen tackles.

653
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you are one hundred percent right?

654
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, Well, actually twelve because he had a sack

655
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 2: and attackle for loss. So yeah, so twelve is still

656
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 2: a lot for your safety. Considering that they didn't really

657
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: run the ball very much.

658
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 4: It felt like on the on the organ end Mateo's

659
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 4: coming out game a little bit.

660
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: That kid is special, Bro, that kid is spas sure.

661
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 2: The word on the street is he's.

662
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 3: Better than the man who got drafted to the Giants.

663
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 4: We'll see Dibbodo Bucky Irving was. I want to say

664
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: positive things about Bucky Irving, but a lot of what

665
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 4: he was doing you could have done.

666
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 3: I don't know, Bro.

667
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: Did you did you see the one where he dropped

668
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: number zero in the hole and ran for a touchdown?

669
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: I can't do that was that was an incredible run.

670
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 4: Some of those runs he didn't have anybody to drop.

671
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: No, no, no.

672
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: But I've consistently told you who have I been saying

673
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: is the best running back in the PAC twelve since

674
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: last year? Buck Herving, Bucky Irving is there is there

675
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: any doubt?

676
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: I think, Marshon Lloyd, you don't want to hear from me.

677
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 4: You don't want to hear from me right now about Uh,

678
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 4: you don't know, dude, there could be another safety on

679
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 4: one of these schools that if you just put them

680
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 4: at running back.

681
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: Oh god, dude, don't try to tell me. Voky's been

682
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: Get out, Get out of here.

683
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: And Josh Paton.

684
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: Says, Josh Pate, your boy says that Utah's offense isn't clicking.

685
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 4: It just had the privilege of facing USC.

686
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: All right, So let's let's let's finish up on this game.

687
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: Washington State is four and three, Yeah, one in three

688
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 2: in conference. Question is will they make a bowl game?

689
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: I think so, because they got to get through they

690
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: got oh yeah, oh god, yes they're making a bowl game.

691
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: They got Arizona State, Stanford, Cal and Colorado left yeah.

692
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Washington they might win eight games.

693
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: It's possible, damn yes, small.

694
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

695
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: And they're and they're playing team in Stanford who can't

696
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: play defense, and Washington State can at least put up

697
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 2: a fight on defense.

698
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just okay. So a college football team, high

699
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 4: level college wall team. We're talking about a team three

700
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 4: weeks ago it was ranked thirteenth in the country. How

701
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: many players on your team should be over three hundred pounds.

702
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 3: Five, six, seven and a minimum of seven.

703
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 4: Okay, here's the issue right now for Washington State. They

704
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 4: do not have a single defensive player over three hundred pounds.

705
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: What No D No three hundred pound d tackles?

706
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 4: Uh Naim Rodman is the only one. He's been around

707
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 4: forever he was at Colorado.

708
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: Uh.

709
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, they so, they they have, they have They got

710
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 4: a bunch of freshmen in this year that they brought

711
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 4: in around the three hundred pound mark. Yeah. So they

712
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: have four freshmen on the offensive line. They have as

713
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 4: many freshmen on the offensive line that are three hundred

714
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 4: pounds and above as they do upper classmen.

715
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: So okay, so they're so they're trying to build this

716
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: offensive line to be more physical.

717
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they have their heaviest defensive lineman is three

718
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 4: hundred and seven pounds. Everybody else is three hundred or below.

719
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

720
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 2: You you need some little space eaters up in there.

721
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: That's the That's the thing that Oregon is doing well.

722
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 4: Bro.

723
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: They are beefing up on the d line.

724
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 4: Bro. They are like Ron Stone has had some good

725
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 4: games and he's a good dn for them. He's two

726
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 4: forty six.

727
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: That ain't gonna cut it when the when them when

728
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 2: the NFL lineman when they get them paws on you, buddy, Yeah,

729
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: unless you are you know, like homebody got drafted by

730
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: the Texans out of Alabama, where you're like a just

731
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 2: a freaking special player.

732
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 4: Yeah. They just look small and then they kind of

733
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 4: space them out on defense, and so it's like, how

734
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 4: do you not expect to get gashed up the middle?

735
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 4: I just I don't know.

736
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, and Ucla did it, and now Oregon

737
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: has done it too. All right, next game up you had, Okay,

738
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: you had Ucla Stanford, Ucla forty to Stanford seven. Ucla

739
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: started out the beginning of this game and just and

740
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: just never let up.

741
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: But there was a change of quarterback.

742
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 4: I don't like it. What no I told you last week.

743
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 4: I told you this last week. You said, should they

744
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 4: And I said absolutely not.

745
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: Ethan Garbers was twenty of twenty eight for two forty

746
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: two touchdowns. He had a phenomenal day. Granted, Stanford's defense

747
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: does not put up a whole lot of resistance, but

748
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: he was really good. And Dante Moore had gone three

749
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: straight games with pick sixes through three picks in the

750
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: last game, he has like seven picks in the last

751
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: three games.

752
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 4: Oh on, now, all of a sudden, Chip Kelly can't

753
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 4: abide turnovers. He went through five years of during DT.

754
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 4: Maybe not, Maybe he.

755
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 3: Just think that.

756
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: I think that he knows that this team is very,

757
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: very talented. They should have never lost. They're the last game. Oh,

758
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 2: they should have never lost to Oregon State, which which

759
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: we agree with. It was the turnovers that absolutely killed him. Yes,

760
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: and so I think the chip on your stands that

761
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: Dante's a really good talented player, but he's not ready yet.

762
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: And with as and with those Dorian Thompson Robinson teams,

763
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: those teams weren't ready. But when you have a defense

764
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 2: this good, I think that, and you're able to run

765
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: the football and all of that stuff, I think that

766
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: it makes it very tough for you to just dismiss

767
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: the rest of the team.

768
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 4: You've given him every opportunity to get ready, right, Like,

769
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 4: you want him to be the guy. Yeah, that's my assumption.

770
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 4: You started him. You want this correct guy. Why sit

771
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 4: him against the one team where he actually probably have

772
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 4: some success. And if you watch this game, the plays

773
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 4: they're running for Ethan Garber's, they're pretty pretty simple stuff.

774
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 4: A little misdirection on a touchdown pass, a couple of

775
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 4: slant easy slant routes. There was one where Garbus had

776
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 4: to like roll right to move the pocket where he

777
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 4: threw a nice ball, But for the most part it

778
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 4: was it felt like a very simplified plan that Dante

779
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 4: Moore would have been able to have success with. I

780
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 4: just wonder if there's just like a switch that went

781
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 4: with with Chip Kelly that he's more worried about this

782
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 4: year and his job status.

783
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: I don't think it's his job status.

784
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 2: I just think that it's what's best for Dante more

785
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: and I think that Dante needs he I think he.

786
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 3: Needs a reset.

787
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: Bro I think he needed a reset that that, and

788
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: I do think that this does that. If Ethan Garbers

789
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: continues to play well, that this does present a little

790
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: bit of a problem. But Chip Kelly is not above

791
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: telling somebody to hit the hit, hit the bricks. Think

792
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: about Darren Thomas. Darren Thomas just took Oregon to the

793
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 2: National Championship and he was informed that Marcus Mariota was

794
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: going to be their guy. He was the team that

795
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: took him to Uh yeah it was. It was no, no, no, no,

796
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 2: it wasn't. It was either the National Championship or the

797
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: Fiesta Bowl, I'm sorry, the Rose Ball either or A one,

798
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 2: and he was and they were like, yeah, nah, it's

799
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: time for Marcus.

800
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: No, yes, it was the Fiesta Bowl.

801
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: They were playing in the in the Fiesta Bowl for sure,

802
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: because I was down there and that was how I

803
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: found found out. I'd been talking to one of the

804
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: coaches and they were like, Yo, we got this freshman

805
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: who's gonna be the guy going forward next year. So

806
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: you have a quarterback who's taken you to the Promised

807
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: Land and you're like, no, it's time to move on.

808
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to see how this quarterback room

809
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: shakes out, because four quarterbacks actually took snaps for for

810
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: UCLA in this game.

811
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: Four.

812
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 2: You had Ethan Garber's take the overwhelming majority. Dante Moore

813
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: got four passes, and Chase Griffin got a pass and

814
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: then the kid from Inglewood who will be in the

815
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: portal as well, probably yeah, he got some snaps as well.

816
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 2: So Chase Griffin should be gone after this year. I think,

817
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 2: but I mean, but he doesn't really count. But Dante Moore,

818
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: Ethan Garber's. Why can't I not remember the kid from

819
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: Englewoo's name Martin? Yes, yes, yes, Justin Martin, Lord of

820
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 2: Merty's a family friend too.

821
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 3: I apologize.

822
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: Justin Martin and the kid that transferred in from Kent State.

823
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: Bro how many of those guys are gone next year?

824
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: Well Shod asked, how many of those guys are still there?

825
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: Because if Ethan Garber's plays well for the rest of

826
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: the year, what then happens to Dante Moore? Because Ethan

827
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 2: Garber's has another year of eligibility, Justin Martin likely out

828
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: of there.

829
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna say it's twenty twenty three. All four

830
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 4: could go. That would be four because think about it,

831
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 4: might say it's twenty twenty three, like this didn't happen

832
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 4: eight years ago when Kyle Allen transferred out of Texas

833
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 4: A and M and Kyler is clearly going to be

834
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 4: the starter, has already split reps, but he's lost confidence

835
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 4: in the staff and he bolts too, and they both

836
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 4: go to guaranteed situations. Maybe Ethan Garber's got his feelings

837
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 4: hurt by the fact that he wasn't given that it

838
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 4: took this long to pull the trigger. And maybe maybe

839
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: Dante Moore's got his feelings hurt too. You just never know, uh,

840
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 4: you know. And and you look at Cal. Last year,

841
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 4: Cal had people that were probably gonna start leave the program.

842
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were like syonara, buddy.

843
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Jack Plumber is the quarterback of a

844
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 4: ranked team right now over in Louisville, yep, instead of

845
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 4: sticking around. So I think that this is, uh, it'll

846
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 4: be interesting to watch it all unfold and they'll be

847
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 4: opened up to the possibility of, you know, a big

848
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: big ten teams sometimes come after players because it will

849
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 4: give them the opportunity to like understand how a team works.

850
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 4: Whether or not you earn the starting lineup, you can

851
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 4: give somebody insight into how the offense is run and

852
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 4: stuff like that. So there's gonna be a lot of

853
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 4: wolves at the door. It'll be interesting to see what

854
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 4: they do moving forward. I have one question about Stanford.

855
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 4: Remember last year they started running that slow mesh yes, yes,

856
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: blown up yep. So this is not that offense. However,

857
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 4: I don't know what Stanford was doing holding the ball

858
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 4: five six seconds on some of these packs. No, it

859
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 4: was insane how many times they took pressures and sacks

860
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 4: that that were actually decent pass protection.

861
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 3: Yep.

862
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: And and uh yeah and elk I am a nore.

863
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: After his heroic game last year, well last week followed

864
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: it up with a good performance eight just for ninety yards.

865
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 4: They got that man killed on the sideline. I think

866
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 4: it was early second half. Hit him on a deep

867
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 4: ball down the sideline.

868
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, and he got absolutely just wrecked the business. Yeah, dude,

869
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 3: he can do it.

870
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 4: They've proven that he can do it against multiple teams.

871
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: Yep.

872
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: You just gotta protect him a little bit.

873
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 3: Yep.

874
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 2: I think they got something there, all right, we got

875
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: you TAW, USC, you taw thirty four, USC thirty two.

876
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 3: Is this the game that broke USC.

877
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams for the second week in a row, so

878
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: he was thirty four. It was twenty four for thirty four,

879
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: zero touchdowns, zero picks, And that was like astonishing, I mean,

880
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 2: because we've grown so used to him throwing so many

881
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 2: touchdown passes, and in the last two weeks combined one

882
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 2: touchdown three picks. Even though that all happened in the

883
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: Notre Dame game, but he's thrown for four hundred and

884
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 2: fifty five yards in the last two games combined.

885
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't like to take the easy gift. No,

886
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 4: and that's been a problem for him for two years now.

887
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: Yep, dude, he hasn't had a three hundred yard passing game.

888
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: Since Colorado.

889
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: Arizona held him to two nineteen and one touchdown, Notre

890
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 2: Dame held him to one ninety nine and a touchdown

891
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: in three picks, and Utah held him the two fifty six,

892
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: zero touchdown, zero interceptions. Is USC's offense. Did Arizona break USC?

893
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 3: Is the question? Or did they just decode them?

894
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 4: Arizona kept everything in front of them, which is kind

895
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 4: of just what they have to do at this point,

896
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 4: and it's been working. Caleb Williams is somebody who is

897
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 4: always looking to take the biggest opportunity afford to him. Yes,

898
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 4: and you talked about it all year last year. This

899
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 4: is not new. He holds the ball. There were things

900
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 4: that he did last year and earlier this year that

901
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 4: you said he won't be able to get away with

902
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 4: at the next level. So people are making adjustments to him.

903
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 4: I've noticed a way that he is handled in the

904
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 4: pass rush has changed. Arizona State did a little bit

905
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 4: as well. The defensive ends rush out wide and then

906
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 4: they don't crash in yep. They just kind of stay

907
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 4: out wide to make sure that Kayleb Williams can move

908
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 4: the pocket but not outside the hash yep.

909
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: And that way.

910
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: Then that way, then if he tries to go back inside,

911
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: they can retrace and tackle.

912
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 4: Yeah. So then spot maybe spy him with a linebacker

913
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 4: and then drop everybody else but suber deep back into coverage.

914
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 4: And then every once in a while I hit him

915
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 4: with a blitz, maybe even a corner blitz. Really keep

916
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 4: things interesting, which I think is good for Caleb Williams

917
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 4: in the long run. I think he's facing a lot

918
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 4: of things that he's gonna have to face big it. Yeah,

919
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 4: all of this is for Kayleb Williams, good in my opinion.

920
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 4: But yeah, he's just gonna have to. I don't think

921
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 4: he finds it fun to take the easy yards, but

922
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 4: it's necessary at this point. It's just a necessity. I

923
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 4: don't put this game on him. I don't necessarily think

924
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 4: it's his fault. Lincoln Riley calls the plays right, Yes, Okay,

925
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 4: so he doesn't like to run the ball. I got

926
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 4: I would just if you are a running back who

927
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 4: for some reason listens well.

928
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: And Marshawn Lloyd started the game off running the ball

929
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: extremely well.

930
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 4: They all had success. Austin Jones and Marshawn Lloyd combined

931
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 4: for twelve carries for like one hundred and seventeen yards.

932
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 4: Twelve carries for one hundred and seventeen yards. Twelve carries,

933
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 4: though Marshaw Lloyd had eight last week, seven this week

934
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 4: or something. Yep, he fumbled and.

935
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 3: It was it was like he got in a doghouse.

936
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I the fumble doghouse to me is always

937
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 4: the dumbest thing in the world because you'll let Dante

938
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 4: More throw three pick sixes before you make a decision

939
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 4: on him.

940
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: But let let him run it back bubble one good time.

941
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, let him break eighteen tackles and then fumble after

942
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 4: getting forty yards because he was trying to do something

943
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 4: positive and he has to go stand on the sideline

944
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 4: with his head down to prove that he's remorseful, then

945
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 4: walk around campus holding a football while random students punch

946
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 4: at it for the next week, just to prove you

947
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 4: know that that he can play again. And that type

948
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 4: of stuff that like coaching mindset is to me is

949
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 4: very very stupid. That makes happen. Yeah, and if somebody

950
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 4: is chronically fumbling, then you take them out. But if

951
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 4: they but I don't think I don't even think it's

952
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 4: about the fumble. I just don't think.

953
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 2: Lincoln Ryan, you only got seven carries, bro, and then

954
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 2: Austin Jones got like five in the second half.

955
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 4: This is what I'm saying. If you're a running back

956
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 4: and you're out there and for some reason you listen

957
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 4: to pactweal apostles and USC comes to throw a bag

958
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 4: at you before you've entered the transfer portal like they do.

959
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 3: Because Marshaon Lloyd looks good, Bro.

960
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, think about what it means for you, Marshawn Lloyd.

961
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 4: Had he stayed at the other USC. This is you know,

962
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 4: fifteen sixteen carries a game. He's not getting that at US.

963
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 4: I would be furious. You have a running game, you

964
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 4: have an offensive line that can give you a little

965
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 4: bit of space in the running game, and you're just

966
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 4: not doing it. I don't know. I think that it's

967
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 4: not been a good coaching job. I think that Lincoln

968
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 4: Riley's seventeen and five, and that's the exact record that

969
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 4: Clay Hilton started out with.

970
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: Okay, oh wow, but okay, So Marshawn Lloyd has played

971
00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 2: one more game than at USC than Oregon, Right, yeah,

972
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 2: Bucky Irving only has five more rushing attempts.

973
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 4: But who else is running.

974
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly exactly exactly like yeah, yeah, and before no

975
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: Noah Whittington went went out for the year. Yeah, they

976
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: probably have three dudes that have damn near the same

977
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 2: amount of carries. So but you have Bucky Irving who's

978
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: averaging seven point four to six yards of carry. Marshawn

979
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 2: Lloyd is averaging seven point nine four yards of carry.

980
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 3: That's a lot of yards. Yep, that's a lot of yards.

981
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 4: And they can maybe they're saying, and this is a

982
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 4: very big Cliff Kingsbury thing. Who is part of that

983
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 4: staff Obviously Cliff Kingsbury used to do this with Chase Edmonds,

984
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 4: James Connor. You pick and choose your spots where you run,

985
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 4: you use the run to set up to pass, and

986
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 4: then so you have these explosive plays, but you don't

987
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 4: don't you don't like the idea of like because you're

988
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 4: so good on offense. You don't need a second and seven,

989
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 4: you don't need a third and two.

990
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 3: Yep.

991
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 4: So you're not trying to set the pass up or

992
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 4: any play action with any type of run. And this

993
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 4: is why a lot of Oklahoma players went in the

994
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 4: NFL and didn't and needed retrained. I mean, I'm just

995
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 4: telling you, I'm not trying to be a USC hater.

996
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 4: It's not if you're trying to become a pro. Now

997
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 4: you're trying. You're trying to play on a big stage

998
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 4: right now, have some fun, be in La, go to USC. Sure,

999
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 4: But if you're trying to be used the way that

1000
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 4: you want to be used at the next level, I

1001
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 4: think there's other options for you.

1002
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: Which is which which impacts recruiting? Dude, which is going

1003
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 2: to impact their recruiting Because if you are a defensive player,

1004
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,959
Speaker 2: Look at how bad Demani Jackson looks right now.

1005
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like a six.

1006
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: To three corner that runs ten to two and he

1007
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: looks so mid People run run by him, they catch

1008
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: him underneath, they do like it's it's a it feels

1009
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: like a coaching problem more than a player problem.

1010
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 4: If you are the best quarterback in the country, I

1011
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 4: think USC is a good option for you if you

1012
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 4: are if you are a good receiver, I think USC

1013
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 4: is a good option for you. Everybody else the jury's out,

1014
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 4: We don't we I mean, you're not gonna come out

1015
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 4: here and uh and butter up USC just for no reason.

1016
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 4: But we don't have to do it just because their

1017
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 4: premier brand. Yeah, in college football. The truth about USC

1018
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 4: is the things that they're doing wrong led to the

1019
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 4: last two losses and the last three in a row

1020
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 4: against Utah.

1021
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 3: So the question is.

1022
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: Can they fix it? Like what can be done to

1023
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: fix it this year? Lincoln Riley's likely out this week.

1024
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: We don't know about next week yet. We have haven't

1025
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: heard from players really in the media. We don't know

1026
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 2: where Caleb's had is at this week.

1027
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 3: Who they have Cal this week?

1028
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, Oregan's got Cal because they're on Pack

1029
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: twelve network and.

1030
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 3: You have USC has this week.

1031
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, they have a bye and then they

1032
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 4: have no, they have Cal. They have Cal, USC has Cal.

1033
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, because Oregon plays at Utah. I'm thinking about

1034
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 2: the following week.

1035
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 3: Good lord.

1036
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: So so yeah, so can they get it? Is CAL

1037
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: the get right game? Because it was funny because people

1038
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 2: were acting like Utah was going to be the get

1039
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: right game, And.

1040
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 3: As Josh Pate said, you don't get right versus Utah.

1041
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you survived versus Utah. You don't get

1042
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: right versus Utah.

1043
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 4: I think Cal is actually set up perfectly to give

1044
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 4: USC some problems because it is at home. It's the

1045
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 4: last time these two will play a conference game against

1046
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 4: each other, so there's some incentive for some fans to

1047
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 4: show up in Berkeley. And the stuff that Cal does

1048
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 4: well offensively is going to be a problem for USC.

1049
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 4: The issue is are is Jake Spavotol offensively innovative enough

1050
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 4: to do some of the stuff Kenny Dillingham was doing

1051
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 4: with ASU to keep USC's defense kind of off schedule

1052
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 4: and guessing because talent wise, they're not going to be

1053
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 4: able to move the ball down the field with their quarterbacks.

1054
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 4: So but this running game that Cal has, there's no

1055
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 4: reason why they can't limit the opportunities USC has on

1056
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 4: offense and bleed the clock.

1057
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 2: Oh, and then have a close game and then see

1058
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 2: if you can pull one out that way. Now, Okay,

1059
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 2: so now let's spend a little bit of time on

1060
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: the winners. Bryce and Barnes fourteen for twenty three two

1061
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five yards, three touchdown, and the biggest

1062
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 2: rushing play of the game, that twenty six yards scramble

1063
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: at the end of the game to put him in

1064
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 2: field goal range.

1065
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 4: And that wasn't even his top wasn't a top two

1066
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 4: Bryson Burns play from this game.

1067
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 3: Dude.

1068
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 2: He was pretty damn good in this game. But at

1069
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: the same time, you see how he's not like that.

1070
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: This team would be so much better number number one.

1071
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 2: If they weren't as beat up as they are.

1072
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1073
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, if they weren't hurt like they are, bro, they

1074
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 3: clearly would be undefeated at this point.

1075
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1076
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 2: And yeah, this would be a major issue, bro, And

1077
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 2: they would be in the top five right now.

1078
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 4: Yep. And and Bryson Barnes, he had the run before

1079
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 4: the run, which you and I talked about.

1080
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, the run before the run, Yeah, where he smacked,

1081
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 3: he hurt the defender.

1082
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 4: Knocked him out of the game, yep, literally knocked him

1083
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 4: out of They had to take him out. And then

1084
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 4: the throwmediately after the pick six that he threw because

1085
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 4: the game was essentially over.

1086
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 3: Yes, and then he gave them life with the pick six.

1087
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and because they were in field goal range, they

1088
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 2: were everything.

1089
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 4: And he was trying to They were trying to like

1090
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 4: put the They were really trying to put the nail

1091
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 4: on the coffin. This felt like Winningham got a little greedy,

1092
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 4: a little bit greo, which you can't blame him for.

1093
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, he was trying to put the He was

1094
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 2: trying to embarrass them at that point.

1095
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so the pick six gets happens. And then

1096
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 4: on the next play they go deep with Bryson Barnes

1097
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 4: to Vaki. Yep, that was like that was that was

1098
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 4: gussy man. And so he made enough plays. He impressed me. Vaky.

1099
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 4: They gave him. I they gave him the ball once.

1100
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 4: And I don't know who twenty five is for USC.

1101
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do him the favor of not looking him up.

1102
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 2: That's the freshman he uh, I think it is. I

1103
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 2: want to say that this Curtis.

1104
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 4: Name, I don't think we should say his name.

1105
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 3: It's tacking Curtis.

1106
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 4: Well, well you're done said it. He looked stiff and

1107
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 4: got if if if his ankles had the ability to bend,

1108
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 4: they would have broken. It was bad man. That tackling

1109
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 4: was bad. Pursuit was bad. My guy Anthony Lucas got

1110
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 4: absolutely embarrassed on a siony. Vaki run to the outside

1111
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 4: where Lucas was supposed to keep contained. And I think

1112
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 4: people just underestimate Vaki's speed. This kid's a freak man,

1113
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 4: he really is. You shouldn't. It's one thing to do

1114
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 4: what Travis Hunter is doing, but like safety and running.

1115
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 2: Back, yes, yes, bro, that's that's a whole high school correct. Hey,

1116
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 2: Vaki's out there killing and on that will route he

1117
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 2: caught in the beginning of the game. Alex Great said

1118
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 2: that he hadn't seen that on film, and then people,

1119
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: the invest Twitter investigative reporters figured out it literally happened

1120
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 2: the previous game.

1121
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 4: The tough thing for anybody who's followed the Pac twelve

1122
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 4: for any number of years is that that used to

1123
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 4: be what USC murdered people on YEP whether and it

1124
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 4: was through Kiffin, Sark Carroll that trio. They loved that

1125
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 4: wheel route and they would run run it with a

1126
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 4: fullback YEP and they would just kill people with it.

1127
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 4: Carson Palmer used to throw it, Matt Lioner used to

1128
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 4: throw it, Mark Sanchez and so to have a USC

1129
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator up there talking about not being able to

1130
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 4: anticipate a thing that USC was known for for such

1131
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 4: a long time. Yeah, that was a rough Look. Yep,

1132
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 4: I think Lincoln Riley picked the wrong person to protect

1133
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 4: from the media.

1134
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 3: What do you what do you mean?

1135
01:04:58,640 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 4: I think he put it. Probably should have put his

1136
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 4: kids out there and not his defensive coordinator.

1137
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: Oh well, he wasn't at practice, so he couldn't protect anybody.

1138
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 3: So yeah.

1139
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: Oh and Cole Bishop who missed the first half of

1140
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 2: this game with a targeting penalty. Bro, their defense was

1141
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 2: fine without him, but once he got back, it was crazy.

1142
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 3: Can we talk.

1143
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 4: About that last week? You were usually the number one

1144
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 4: person to like push back against all targeting dude.

1145
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I didn't even bother it's it's frustrating. It's

1146
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 2: frustrating watching it. Yeah, and yeah, this team is good.

1147
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 2: This this Utah team is good. Like how they found

1148
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 2: a way to win, that's the part that's incredible to me.

1149
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 2: That's the part that dude. They're averaging twenty three points

1150
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 2: a game and they're six and one. There's their third

1151
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 2: worst in the conference, only behind Arizon on the State

1152
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 2: and Stanford.

1153
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 4: Okay, you didn't have to bring that up. But I

1154
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 4: appreciate it, appreciate your thoroughness.

1155
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 2: But it's but then they're only allowing fifteen points on

1156
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 2: defense throughout the whole season, and they gave up thirty

1157
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 2: two this game and still are only giving up fifteen

1158
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 2: points a game for now second in the conference because

1159
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 2: UCLA is just to tick better. I don't know how

1160
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 2: this works, bro, Like this is this Oregon team versus Utah.

1161
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how this works.

1162
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 4: Oregon has good that they finally came out and said

1163
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 4: no Cam rising this year.

1164
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it was time to stop. I mean everybody

1165
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 2: already knew. Is the worst kept secret in the world.

1166
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 2: Like if they haven't played by week eight, what apply

1167
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: for the medical come back next.

1168
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 3: Year or go to the draft? Those are your options

1169
01:06:58,640 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 3: that distress.

1170
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 4: You just gotta if you're if you're Kyle winning him,

1171
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 4: you gotta do a better job of protecting your player

1172
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 4: from the stress of of of everybody asking him to come.

1173
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 3: I think I think he got tired of it.

1174
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 2: That's probably what led to it is he was like, Bro,

1175
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 2: we we need to just tell him because we're not

1176
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 2: fooling anybody, and I'm tired of being asked about this.

1177
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 4: I just wanted to just you and I talked about

1178
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 4: on the show the moment that the timetable dropped for

1179
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 4: what was hurt and win? I said, why are we

1180
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 4: what are we even doing? Can't cancel his full season? Yep?

1181
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 4: Nine months out from a catastrophic knee injury, which means

1182
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 4: that he was seven months out at PACK twelve media day.

1183
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 4: What in the hell?

1184
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 3: Yep?

1185
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 4: Exactly like, can can you imagine Sean Livingston showing up

1186
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 4: to oh the games? I'm sorry I brought his name up,

1187
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 4: but Sean Livingston showing up the games back in the

1188
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 4: day after his leg fell off in an NBA game

1189
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 4: seven months afterwards, people, yeah, so are you playing today?

1190
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 4: Two days later, so are you playing today? And the

1191
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 4: next night on the second night of a back to back,

1192
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 4: why aren't you out there yet?

1193
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1194
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: But they were like, he's practicing. That's the thing about

1195
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: he's practicing. No, he wasn't practicing. He was at practice.

1196
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 2: There's there's a difference. There's a difference, all right.

1197
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 3: Last game up on the PAC twelve slate last weekend was.

1198
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: Arizona State Washington. This was a seven to three game

1199
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 2: through three quarters zero. When it was zero zero at

1200
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:29,879
Speaker 2: the end of the first I was like, oh, okay,

1201
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 2: I get it. Oregon Washington State was three to three whatever.

1202
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: Then it was seven to three at the end of

1203
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 2: the half.

1204
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 3: And I was like, uh who. Then it was.

1205
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 2: Seven to three at the end of the third and

1206
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, Washington might lose. And

1207
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: and then it got d and Michael Pennix had two

1208
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 2: interceptions and I.

1209
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 3: Was like, oh, this is a problem. Oh, this is

1210
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:57,919
Speaker 3: a major problem.

1211
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: And then going down into the four quarter, you had

1212
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 2: Washington get a field goal, and then.

1213
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 3: Arizona State is driving down.

1214
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 2: There's twelve minutes and twenty eight seconds ago when they

1215
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 2: got the ball, they get all the way down to

1216
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: the to the Washington twelve bro to the Washington twelve

1217
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 2: yard line, it's eight minutes and forty nine seconds to

1218
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 2: go on the clock. If they kick a field goal

1219
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,520
Speaker 2: right there, it's gonna be thirteen to six and Washington

1220
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: that might as well have been three touchdowns. And then

1221
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 2: it's fourth and three from the twelve. Everybody screaming, Kenny

1222
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 2: kick a field goal, Kenny kick a field goal. And

1223
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 2: then he doesn't pick six. And so the number one

1224
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 2: question after the game, was Kenny, why didn't you kick

1225
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: a field goal?

1226
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 3: Why didn't he kick a field goal?

1227
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,640
Speaker 4: Ralph couldn't.

1228
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 3: What do you mean he couldn't kick a field goal?

1229
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 4: Uh, the two reserve linemen going into this game that

1230
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 4: both got hurt during the game. They made an attempt

1231
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 4: earlier in the game to kick a field goal with

1232
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 4: new people in the field and they missed.

1233
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he didn't just miss it got blocked.

1234
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he didn't have the personnel to actually attempt

1235
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 4: a field goal. But do you realize in the game,

1236
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 4: he said, if you're three hundred and twenty pounds, then

1237
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 4: you go to Arizona State come talk to me.

1238
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 2: But do you realize how incredible I've never heard that

1239
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 2: before in my life. Like, we couldn't we didn't have

1240
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 2: the personnel to kick a field goal, and they weren't

1241
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 2: talking about a hurt kicker.

1242
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 4: Do you realize it's it's not an excuse, it's not

1243
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 4: an excuse. Like they went into this game that if

1244
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 4: one more offensive lineman went down, they might not be

1245
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 4: able to they might. I think they were putting a

1246
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,480
Speaker 4: They had a D lineman practicing with the O line.

1247
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 3: Just case of emergency no.

1248
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 4: No, that's they just saw the hype that Travis Hunter

1249
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 4: and Sioni Vaki were getting and they wanted to get

1250
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 4: in on the edge. Yeah.

1251
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 2: So, and then pick six happens. Arizona State punts Washington

1252
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 2: adds another an insurance field goal.

1253
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 4: Pick six was rough because ASU had marched all the

1254
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 4: way down.

1255
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: Yes, they had marched all the way down, and then

1256
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 2: they still when they got the ball back with three

1257
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: minutes and fifteen seconds left and they were down fifteen

1258
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 2: to seven.

1259
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 3: I knew it was over. Yeah, I knew it was

1260
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 3: over at the pick six.

1261
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 4: So I don't know if this is offline information and

1262
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 4: I'm putting you on the spot, but I wondered if

1263
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 4: you want to tell the people what you called and

1264
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 4: told me about your internal struggle during this game.

1265
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm fine with that. Yeah, Oh I had it.

1266
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 2: It was like my NC doublea bracket and when I see,

1267
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 2: you know, when I picked Kentucky to win and get

1268
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 2: to the sweet sixteen, But then here comes Saint Peter's

1269
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 2: at the end of the game, and you're like, hey, yo,

1270
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 2: they might win, and then you let then you start

1271
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 2: rooting fort Saint Peter's. So on one hand, I was like,

1272
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 2: I can't afford for Washington to lose, like Oregon cannot

1273
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 2: afford for Washington to lose to Arizona State, if they

1274
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 2: lose to USC whatever, But they cannot lose to Arizona State.

1275
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 3: But then I was like, that is the major Huskies,

1276
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 3: So they die. They died.

1277
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 4: That was.

1278
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 2: I didn't know what the hell I wanted, but I

1279
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: was happy that they didn't lose. But then I was

1280
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: like wanted to throw up in like for Arizona State.

1281
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 2: I could not have felt worse for Arizona State. And

1282
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 2: I don't feel bad for anybody.

1283
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 4: Because i'ma be honest man. They whooped Washington's ass, They

1284
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 4: really did. Brian Ward put together the game plan of

1285
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 4: a lifetime. Offensively, Arizona State outgain Washington protected the ball better.

1286
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 4: They had a plus three. They were plus eighty in

1287
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 4: total yards plus three in turnovers.

1288
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 2: How much do you think it had to do with

1289
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 2: Michael Pennick's being hurt from the from the Oregon game.

1290
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 4: I don't know, man. I think Brian Ward just put

1291
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 4: together one of the best defensive plans we've seen in

1292
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 4: a long time, which is crazy because Brian Ward was

1293
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 4: at Washington State last year and Michael Pennis went hard

1294
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 4: in the paint on that Washington State defense over fifty

1295
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 4: points and seven hundred yards.

1296
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, there, Longe, that's not Washington style.

1297
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 4: No, but I know, I think if you watched the

1298
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:45,560
Speaker 4: game and you did, Arizona State outplayed Washington.

1299
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 3: By far, by far. They were a field goal attempt

1300
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 3: away from a win.

1301
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 4: And uh, it reminded me of a big Game of

1302
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 4: Thrones fan. You watch Game of Thrones, yep, it reminded

1303
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 4: me very much of the overra in Martell versus the

1304
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 4: Mountain fight scene, where like you have like the biggest,

1305
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 4: baddest character in all of Game of Thrones going up

1306
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:16,839
Speaker 4: against like the fanciest, quickest right and the fanciest quickest

1307
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 4: beat the living hell out of the mountain, And when

1308
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 4: they had the opportunity to kill them, instead they played

1309
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 4: with their food, got tripped, got their skull crushed, and

1310
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 4: died instantly. And I was very much feeling like my

1311
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 4: school got crushed. At about two in the morning, I

1312
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 4: did a show that didn't end till three thirty and

1313
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,799
Speaker 4: I sat in my chair just standing at my computer

1314
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 4: for another hour and a half afterward, Dude.

1315
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 2: Because that's the worst when you can't believe you lost.

1316
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 2: And that's the beauty of college football because on one minute,

1317
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 2: you could never feel more alive like Washington.

1318
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 3: Arizona State could not have felt.

1319
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: More alive for like forty eight minutes and then they

1320
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 2: wanted to.

1321
01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 4: Die for Yeah. And I'll tell you, Washington fans, the

1322
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 4: best thing to come out of this game for Washington

1323
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 4: fans is that you will never have to see us

1324
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 4: ever again.

1325
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Arizona State has wrecked their seasons a few times.

1326
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 3: It's like Oregon and Stanford a.

1327
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 4: Few hundred times, Like we own them and they know

1328
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 4: that and we know that. And it's very weird to

1329
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 4: have ownership over a school that like maybe you shouldn't,

1330
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 4: but we we did. We've ruined it. We almost ruined

1331
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 4: it again. We almost cost ourselves five hundred thousand dollars.

1332
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 4: That is funny because that would have been our portion

1333
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 4: of the college football payout.

1334
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 3: Hey man, y'all, Hey, I love it. I love it,

1335
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.

1336
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:55,480
Speaker 4: What do you think of the I mean, I personally

1337
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 4: think it's it's matchups, right, you always talk about how

1338
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 4: it's matchups. I don't see Washington being in trouble. I

1339
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 4: don't see them being in trouble.

1340
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 3: They just feel like every other team in college football

1341
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 3: right now. They're all vulnerable.

1342
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 2: There's nobody that you look at and you're like, oh,

1343
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 2: they can't be beat nobody.

1344
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1345
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 2: All right, now it's time for our PAC twelve power rankings.

1346
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 2: I did not send them to Ralph ahead of time

1347
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: on purpose because I wanted to get Ralph's reaction. All right, So, Ralph,

1348
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 2: are you ready?

1349
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 4: I am?

1350
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 3: How ready are you?

1351
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 4: Last week we had Arizona State at twelve, and we

1352
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 4: just kept on talking about Arizona State sucking against what

1353
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 4: was the number one team, and so emotionally, I'm not

1354
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 4: in a good place, but I'm ready for this.

1355
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,839
Speaker 3: Okay. Number one.

1356
01:16:55,560 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 2: Washington Huskies, even though I wanted to put Oregon one, won't.

1357
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 4: Or Washington yes, but they won. We got to honor that.

1358
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 3: Yes, correct, Number one Washington Huskies.

1359
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 2: Number two Oregon Ducks, even though we think they're better. Listen,

1360
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 2: you cannot ignore what the results of games.

1361
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 3: Number three Oregon State, and stop me if you need

1362
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:27,480
Speaker 3: to change one. Number four Utah.

1363
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 4: Number Thank you for putting Oregon State above Utah. By

1364
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 4: the way, because not every AP voter did that.

1365
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 3: That's literally their only loss.

1366
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 4: Thirteen of them did not.

1367
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. Number four Utah, number five UCLA, huh okay, Number

1368
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 2: six USC?

1369
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 4: Okay, would you like to make a change there, I'm

1370
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 4: thinking about it. Keep going.

1371
01:17:53,640 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 2: Number seven, Arizona, number eight, Colorado nine, Washington State ten,

1372
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 2: Arizona State. Whoa, I think they're better than cal at

1373
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 2: number eleven and Stanford twelve. Stanford stinks, bro They got

1374
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 2: lucky and beat Colorado.

1375
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 4: All right, cal beat us, And if we're being consistent,

1376
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 4: I might flip that one.

1377
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, that's that's fair.

1378
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 4: And I would like to also use my second flip,

1379
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 4: not the USC UCLA, but I would like to use

1380
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 4: it on Colorado Washington State because I'm just thinking about

1381
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 4: the two of them playing right now and who I

1382
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 4: would expect to come out. And if Michael Pennix is

1383
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 4: thrown for four hundred and thirty eight yards and no

1384
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 4: interceptions against Oregon, you might as well put a one

1385
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 4: in front of that. Against Colorado, this is gonna be

1386
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 4: fourteen hundred and thirty eight yards.

1387
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 3: Oh you you you make can cam Ward?

1388
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 4: Cam Ward my bad?

1389
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about to say, because Pennick's definitely threw

1390
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 2: an interception.

1391
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 4: So I still have Washington on my brain.

1392
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I am not going to that one. I want

1393
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 2: to flip back, but I will accept it because that

1394
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 2: Colorado Stanford collapse is still the last thing that's fresh

1395
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 2: in our minds.

1396
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 4: Well, so UCLA was up twenty eight to nothing and

1397
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 4: you were like, well, here it comes, and nope, it

1398
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 4: never did it. Never did they They they held Stanford

1399
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 4: down in the mud and finished them off. I don't

1400
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 4: know if you saw this Tiger Bachmeyer, Yes, probably the

1401
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:42,879
Speaker 4: best hair in college of sports.

1402
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 3: His brother, his brother has hair like that too.

1403
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, are they all? Are they all the same

1404
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 4: family members of hair?

1405
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: Yes?

1406
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, these kids can play man.

1407
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. The other bears a quarterback.

1408
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 4: So Bachmeyer put braids in. If you saw that, he

1409
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 4: scored Stanford's only touchdown, and then they did the zoom

1410
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 4: in on him and he had like the long like

1411
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 4: like fifty ponytails going on fifty French braided ponytails.

1412
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a that's a choice.

1413
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 4: You're you're like, you're you're very anti long hair.

1414
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 3: No, I'm not. I have a kid with long hair.

1415
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 4: Is that what changed your mind?

1416
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 3: Maybe?

1417
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 4: Maybe Okay, how do you feel about John Moran's long hair.

1418
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 2: For an NBA superstar? You've never seen an NBA superstar

1419
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 2: with hair that you have to put in a ponytail.

1420
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 3: You have not is is?

1421
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 4: I feel like Jimmy Butler's out here targeting you with

1422
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 4: the stuff that he does.

1423
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler is not a superstar. First and four, I

1424
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 3: love that he's not.

1425
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 2: He's a very good player, excellent, Like he's as close

1426
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 2: as you can get to a superstar without being a

1427
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 2: superstar because he doesn't play. Nope, I mean it might

1428
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 2: might might play into it. All right, So the first

1429
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 2: thing is, let's go with the first game, because Oregon

1430
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:20,799
Speaker 2: plays first. Again, Oregon at Utah and Rice Echos, Buddy,

1431
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 2: this game went from this uh spread and played from

1432
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 2: three and a half. It got up as high as

1433
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 2: seven I think. But Oregon is a six and a

1434
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 2: half point favorite over under forty seven and a half.

1435
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 2: Ralph bow Nicks versus Bryson Barnes.

1436
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 4: Who you got over, I'm gonna take the over. Okay, Uh,

1437
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 4: the energy of this stadium is gonna be so crazy

1438
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 4: if Oregon gets the ball first and has to like

1439
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:51,799
Speaker 4: punt or something.

1440
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 3: Yes, Oregon.

1441
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,600
Speaker 2: Oregon has to either get a stop or score on

1442
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,639
Speaker 2: the first drive. Yep, with you, that's the that's the

1443
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 2: only way that you are going to be able to

1444
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 2: stretch this out.

1445
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 4: If Oregon gets the ball first and then somehow gets

1446
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 4: hit for a safety and at any point this game

1447
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 4: is too nothing. You might be in the presence of

1448
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 4: the loudest college football game of all time.

1449
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 3: Dad, oh Well, I brought out Washington Oregon game. From

1450
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 3: people who were there, Peyton, other people I know, they

1451
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 3: said that was the most like literally may have been

1452
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 3: the best college football environment that they've ever been at.

1453
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 3: Like I love it was top top three all time.

1454
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 4: More come out more because the Pac twelve kind of

1455
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 4: gets a bad rap. But when when when Arizona Stadium

1456
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 4: sold out, when Sundeville Stadium sold out, they get real

1457
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 4: crazy fulsome field when when everybody's packed in there is

1458
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 4: fantastic And Washington, Oregon, Washington State and specifically Utah, those

1459
01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 4: four I would put those environments up against anybody.

1460
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, oh I'm putting yes, I'm putting Washington, Oregon,

1461
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 2: Utah and up against anybody anybody. And if Colorado were

1462
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: like six and one right now, I would put them

1463
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 2: in there.

1464
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 4: Too, for sure, for sure, but yeah, this could get

1465
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 4: real crazy. I want my head, says Oregon should be

1466
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 4: able to on talent alone. But like, weren't we in

1467
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 4: the same We're in the same.

1468
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but these teams ain't coach the same. These teams

1469
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 3: ain't These teams ain't built the same. They're not.

1470
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,759
Speaker 4: And you're not going to get the yardage that Washington

1471
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 4: State got. That's not happening.

1472
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 3: No. I like Oregon minus ten in this game.

1473
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 4: Really.

1474
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I would take this at twelve and a half. Thirteen.

1475
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 2: Thirteen would be the most because you could end up

1476
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 2: with touchdown two to fill. Thirteen is the absolute most.

1477
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 4: But yeah, okay, if you like it that much, I'll go.

1478
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 2: I feel I feel very confident about this game. Very

1479
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 2: confident about this game.

1480
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 4: Oh, because Oregon doesn't have to spend time pretending like

1481
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:18,799
Speaker 4: they're game planning for cam Rising.

1482
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 2: Yes, correct, correct, And they are going to put Bryce

1483
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 2: and Barnes in a trick bag. And as long as

1484
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 2: they can stop the run, Oregon will be fine. If

1485
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 2: Utah manages to run the football it is and can

1486
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 2: stay in like third and two, third and three, it's

1487
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 2: gonna be a problem.

1488
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll go with you on both ends. Wait did

1489
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 4: you say over?

1490
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm taking it over all right, I'm with you.

1491
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:51,839
Speaker 3: This game ends up like either thirty two or thirty eight.

1492
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 4: Two?

1493
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: Wait, twenty one, thirty four? No, in between thirty four

1494
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 2: and thirty eight to like seventeen okay or twenty somewhere

1495
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 2: around there.

1496
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 4: Shout out to College Game Day for making what was

1497
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 4: the obvious choice, but a very.

1498
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 2: Good the obvious choice, especially after they beat Utah because

1499
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 2: they and so. But this could be a blowout game.

1500
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 2: It could be.

1501
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 4: All right.

1502
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 2: Next game up USC at Cal. Have you looked at

1503
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 2: this line yet?

1504
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 4: I have not.

1505
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,560
Speaker 3: What would you imagine the line.

1506
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 2: Would be for USC against col a lowly three and

1507
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 2: four Cal team which lost to Auburn.

1508
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 4: On the road. Right, yes, eight and a half.

1509
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 2: It's my guess, damn you, you're lower than I would

1510
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 2: have thought it would have been. Out of gave them

1511
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 2: at least two touchdowns, But it's minus eleven.

1512
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 4: That's gonna be tough.

1513
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 2: And the over under a sixty eight bro So that

1514
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 2: means that they believe that Cow will be able to

1515
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 2: score points because sixty eight divided by two is thirty

1516
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 2: four and to cover, so minus thirty four.

1517
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 4: Plus six minus five, so forty to twenty nine. Yes,

1518
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 4: forty twenty eight forty yep. Yeah. Does Cal know that

1519
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 4: they're supposed to score.

1520
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know anybody.

1521
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 4: Tell Did anybody tell Cal.

1522
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 3: That they're supposed to score a lot of points? I

1523
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 3: don't know if anybody told them this.

1524
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 4: We had a bunch of people over at my house

1525
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 4: this last Sunday and it was just like very clear

1526
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 4: that nobody communicated with each other. Yeah, and it was like, Hey,

1527
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 4: do these people know that they're coming over and they're

1528
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 4: supposed to be bringing these things? Like we got to

1529
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 4: ask these questions like does Cal know that they're supposed

1530
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 4: to go out there and score a bunch of points?

1531
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 4: According to Vegas?

1532
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,480
Speaker 3: Yes, correct, that they're supposed to score damn near thirty points.

1533
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 4: Wow? Uh? What has what have people done positively against

1534
01:26:56,439 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 4: Cal's defense this year? By the way, their middle line

1535
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 4: backers out for the season.

1536
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 2: All right, well that's not good. So Arizona State scored

1537
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 2: twenty one points against Cal, Oregon State scored fifty two,

1538
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: but they gave up forty and then Cal had a

1539
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 2: week has a there Cow's coming off a bye week

1540
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,799
Speaker 2: and they lost to Utah thirty four to fourteen.

1541
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 4: I think this is gonna be a little bit of

1542
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 4: a scare for USC. I think USC wins, but ten

1543
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 4: points for me maybe makes sense. Like a thirty four

1544
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 4: to twenty four, which is.

1545
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 2: A Utah ran for three. D oh Jesus Utah ran

1546
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 2: for fifty three for three seventeen and four touchdowns against Cal.

1547
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 4: Does USC know that that's possible?

1548
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 3: Probably not.

1549
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 4: This is a terrible matchup for both teams. If I

1550
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 4: must say, I would not surprise me if it ended

1551
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 4: up being like ten to three, just because neither team

1552
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 4: actually did the things that would work. Give I'll say

1553
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 4: this to whoever ends up being the head coach at

1554
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 4: USC this week. Give a quarterback a break.

1555
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 2: Well, dj Uyongalle in the game through for nineteen for

1556
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 2: twenty five for two seventy five and five touchdowns. But

1557
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 2: then they also rushed the ball forty three times for

1558
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 2: two hundred and three yards.

1559
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 4: Geez, give me thirty three twenty four. That's the under.

1560
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 4: Right call on the under is what I'm on.

1561
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm taking callen the under as well. Damn Shane

1562
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 2: won't trust ul USC like that, all right, Next thing up,

1563
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 2: Colorado at UCLA. Colorado's coming off of bye week. Ucla,

1564
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 2: what do you think the line on this game is?

1565
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna be shocked at this one.

1566
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 4: I personally, if I was setting this line, it would

1567
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 4: be a two. It would be two almost two scores.

1568
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 4: It'd be thirteen and a half if I was setting

1569
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 4: the line, because I know the type of football that

1570
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,600
Speaker 4: UCLA plays, and it is the worst possible matchup for

1571
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,879
Speaker 4: Colorade of everyone in the whole conference. Is the worst

1572
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 4: matchup that you.

1573
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 2: Could worse than worse than Oregon. They won forty two

1574
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 2: to six.

1575
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 4: Yes, worse than Oregon because of the way that Oregon

1576
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:35,799
Speaker 4: runs their offense. If Chip Kelly might not throw.

1577
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly is disciplined enough to not really throw this ball,

1578
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 2: wax he he didn't against Oregon State. But the line

1579
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 2: is seventeen Ucla minus seventeen. Well, that's a lot yep

1580
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 2: over under sixty three and a half.

1581
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 3: Where this is in La, yep, at the Rose Bowl.

1582
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 4: Cool deon goes to La That's fun.

1583
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 3: The grand daddy of them all.

1584
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 4: Give me Colorado.

1585
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 2: I'm taking Colorado plus seventeen two. I don't think Colorado wins.

1586
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 2: Seventeen is a lot of points though, And.

1587
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even think it's wise to take Colorado.

1588
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 4: I just want to see them have a good time

1589
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 4: in Los Angeles.

1590
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 2: Sixty sixty three fills wild. Yeah, so that's so, that's

1591
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 2: thirty two. Essentially, thirty two plus nine is forty one

1592
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 2: minus eight is twenty four. So forty one to I

1593
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 2: said forty one to twenty four, forty one to twenty four.

1594
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:55,719
Speaker 2: I think color Damn UCLA's defense is really good. Yeah,

1595
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 2: this could get nasty, but I'm still gonna.

1596
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:03,639
Speaker 4: Use Ucla third eight Colorado thirty.

1597
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 3: Oh god, I don't think it's gonna be that close.

1598
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be that close.

1599
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the under, but I think that Colorado

1600
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 2: plus seventeen.

1601
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 3: All right.

1602
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 4: Next gam Shame that this is Dion's only trip to LA.

1603
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1604
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 2: Uh, next game up, Washington plus twenty six and a

1605
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 2: half over under sixty at.

1606
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 4: Stanford minus twenty six and a half.

1607
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah that much.

1608
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 4: Damn Stanford got healthy.

1609
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah Stanford min Stanford plus twenty six and a half

1610
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 2: Washington minus Sidney six and a half.

1611
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:49,759
Speaker 4: I'm I'm taking Washington.

1612
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:53,200
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1613
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 4: I think it's a thirty five point win.

1614
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm taking Stanford. What's the what's the over

1615
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 3: under sixty? They're not hitting that.

1616
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 2: I'm taking the over and I am taking Stanford. Wow,

1617
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 2: this feels lock of the week, bro, This feels lock

1618
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:11,799
Speaker 2: of the week.

1619
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 4: All right, mind you, Washington's defense just gave up seven.

1620
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 3: Point but New's office is terrible.

1621
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 4: Oh how's Stanford doing? Terrible? Just what better version of terrible?

1622
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? But I do think that they're gonna hit some

1623
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 3: third downs, those little silly runs. Oh god, you you're

1624
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 3: actually talking me out of it. But that's all right.

1625
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 3: It definitely will not be my lock of the week.

1626
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 4: Now Washington Stanford beats Washington.

1627
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 3: I they're not gonna beat them. But but it may

1628
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 3: only be like a seventeen to twenty point.

1629
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 4: Win only all right, I got you.

1630
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 2: Oh, Washington State at Arizona State Washington minus six. This

1631
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 2: feels like a trick bag to me, buddy. This is

1632
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 2: one of those games where cam Ward holds the ball

1633
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 2: all over the place. This will be a over under

1634
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 2: fifty one. I'm taking the under, and part of me

1635
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 2: wants to take Arizona State but I think Washington State

1636
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 2: ends up winning by a touchdown.

1637
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 3: But just barely.

1638
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 4: Bro.

1639
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 3: This is this is a potential money line here, buddy.

1640
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 4: This is an extremely important game for Arizona State. Wow,

1641
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 4: because two years ago Jake Dickart took over Washington State

1642
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 4: as they were heading into Tempee for reasons that we

1643
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 4: detailed in season two of this podcast that we will

1644
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 4: not get back into. But you can google Washington State

1645
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 4: Pat chun COVID lawsuit and figure out how Jake Dickert

1646
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 4: got this job. So Jake Dickert takes over and Washington

1647
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 4: State comes into Tempe, Arizona State is embroiled in a

1648
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 4: scandal of its own. And you know Arizona State football.

1649
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,600
Speaker 4: If anything is important in Arizona State football, it's the

1650
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety six Rose Bowl team. Jake Plumber, Pat Tillman,

1651
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:16,719
Speaker 4: a host of others, and they were back to visit

1652
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 4: and to be honored in front of the nineteen ninety

1653
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 4: six Rose Bowl team.

1654
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I remember you talking about this. I

1655
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 2: do remember this because you were not happy about that.

1656
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 4: No. It so so against against Washington State in Jake

1657
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 4: Dickert's first game, I think in a game where ASU

1658
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 4: was favored, and Jaden Daniels was at quarterback, and ASU

1659
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 4: had NFL players all over the field as you got

1660
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,759
Speaker 4: their ass beat so bad in such an embarrassing fashion

1661
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 4: that the fans actually bowed the players. What yeah, so

1662
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:57,440
Speaker 4: like the fans the fans stack't.

1663
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:58,679
Speaker 3: Do you were so mad that day.

1664
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 4: I had players calling me that don't usually call me

1665
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 4: that were like, I'm I don't want to play for

1666
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 4: this school anymore. I don't like. It was bad. It

1667
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 4: was really really bad. And then I talked to people

1668
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 4: who were on the nineteen ninety six Rose Bowl team.

1669
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 3: So so Ralph, so.

1670
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 2: This is a very by all that said, this is

1671
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 2: a very important game for Arizona State. This is a

1672
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 2: get back game.

1673
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, well because one of the main things is

1674
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 4: that the Rose bull team offered to go talk to

1675
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 4: the player's pregame and herm was like, no, we're good.

1676
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 4: Can you imagine? Yes?

1677
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 3: No, like that would that would be insane.

1678
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 4: You're like, you imagine Joey Harrington's coming back and saying like, hey,

1679
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 4: is it cool if I pop in and just give

1680
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:51,679
Speaker 4: a couple words of encouragement and Dan Letting being like, nah, dude,

1681
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 4: we're good. Yep, So that's what happened. So so the uh,

1682
01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 4: the players played like garbage, the coaching staff disrespected the

1683
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 4: most legendary team, and the fans got on the players

1684
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 4: in a way that I've never seen before in Sundeville Stadium. So,

1685
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 4: and it happened against Washington State. So in my opinion,

1686
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 4: Arizona State fans kind of owe the players one. The players, oh,

1687
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 4: the fans won and uh and so they got to

1688
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 4: show makes sense, they have to show up in this game.

1689
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 4: That being said, I think I circled this game at

1690
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 4: the beginning of the season as a game that they

1691
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 4: were going to lose. So because I don't think Arizona

1692
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 4: State has the ability to exploit Washington State's lack of

1693
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:37,600
Speaker 4: size on defense. Yeah, because they don't even have the

1694
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 4: ability to kick a field goal.

1695
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 3: That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense.

1696
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 2: All right, So who are you taking in this game?

1697
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 2: What's the over under fifty one Washington State minus six.

1698
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 4: Under.

1699
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 3: I'm taking the under as well.

1700
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 4: Give me the Koogs by a field goal, so that

1701
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 4: that's asu covering. I think.

1702
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I actually don't hate that, even though I took

1703
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 2: Washington State. That was a tricky one.

1704
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 4: They are trying to collect like fifteen different one score

1705
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 4: losses this year.

1706
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 2: Last game up Oregon number eleven, Oregon State at Arizona.

1707
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 4: Game of the week outside of Oregon Utah.

1708
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yes, yep.

1709
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 4: So you kind of you personally kind of need Oregon

1710
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 4: State to win this game, don't.

1711
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 2: You, Yes, I do, But I don't even really care,

1712
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 2: I because because part of me really wants Arizona to

1713
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 2: do well.

1714
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 3: I don't know why.

1715
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 2: They're like the lovable you know, They're like they're like,

1716
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 2: you know, the perfect people you root for right now, had.

1717
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 4: You been a Fafita fan since he was like sixteen?

1718
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 2: So yes, I like Buffeeda, I like TVAC. I like

1719
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 2: the coaching staff down there at Arizona, like.

1720
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,839
Speaker 4: Shut out to Arizona for getting roped into this Connor

1721
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 4: Stallion's stuff. Not in a way that implicates that they

1722
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:11,839
Speaker 4: did anything wrong, but I guess Connor Stallions was stationed

1723
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 4: in in California and would drive to Tucson and he

1724
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 4: was like helping Jed Fish put together his proposal to

1725
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:21,679
Speaker 4: be the coach and help the chief of staff build

1726
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,720
Speaker 4: up the the I guess he claimed to help them

1727
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 4: build the roster.

1728
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 2: Initially, yeah, hey man, Connor Stallion's got his hands in

1729
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:31,719
Speaker 2: all sorts of buckets.

1730
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 4: Buddy, I like him. I just want to publicly say

1731
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 4: that I think I like Connor Stallions. I think he's

1732
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:39,600
Speaker 4: a self starter and I want to do He's a

1733
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 4: go getter.

1734
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 3: He's a go getter.

1735
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 2: I don't I got no problem with I need all

1736
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 2: sorts of Connor Stallions on my team.

1737
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:48,640
Speaker 3: Just don't do anything that's gonna get me fired. All right, right, exactly,

1738
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 3: all right?

1739
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 2: Oregon State minus three and a half over under fifty

1740
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 2: six and a half. I am looking forward to this

1741
01:38:56,400 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 2: game so much. Number one thing, who is star get

1742
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 2: quarterback for Arizona. It better not be Jaden Delora.

1743
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:05,600
Speaker 3: Better not be.

1744
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because I'm the

1745
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 4: only person on Earth that's like, well, you shouldn't lose

1746
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 4: a starting job to injury.

1747
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 3: What how old are you?

1748
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 4: Grow up?

1749
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 3: Peter Pan.

1750
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 4: I think it's just that I'm taking Jetfish at his word.

1751
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 3: Peter Pan, you need to grow up, buddy, because that

1752
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 3: is absolute garbage. You yes, you can.

1753
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 2: I know that it's not ideal to lose a starting

1754
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 2: spot to injury.

1755
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:44,760
Speaker 3: But it's real, bro, It's real. And it happens all

1756
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 3: the time.

1757
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:47,759
Speaker 4: I don't know. That was probably a high ankle sprain.

1758
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 4: We're like five weeks out. I think you could afford

1759
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 4: to sit him again. You don't want to. You don't

1760
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 4: want him to.

1761
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 3: If you sit him again and you win, it's over pal.

1762
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 4: Then that's not injury, that's performance.

1763
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 3: What are you talking about? He's already outperformed him.

1764
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 4: But Jaden Dolaura is not fully healthy. I know how

1765
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:15,839
Speaker 4: stupid this sounds, but if he's injured, then he hasn't

1766
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 4: been wally pipped yet. The wally pipping is when it's

1767
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 4: two fully healthy quarterbacks and you choose one over the other.

1768
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 3: Right, I guess, bro, this is not ideal. I'm just worrying.

1769
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 4: So but you're saying that it's already happened. I think, yes,

1770
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 4: all right, all right, I I'm fine with it. Doesn't

1771
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 4: hurt my feelings that Jaden Dolaura is not the starting

1772
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 4: quarterback at Arizona. That doesn't bother me at all. But

1773
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 4: I just if he's not fully healthy, then it hasn't

1774
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 4: happened in my opinion. Then if you're still dealing with

1775
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 4: a situation where you you haven't fully made the decision,

1776
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 4: and you're leaving the door open for Noah Fida to

1777
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 4: have a bad game and change your mind. What Youah

1778
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 4: is named the starting quarterback. We can't do this again.

1779
01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 4: It's got to be over. It can't be like the

1780
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 4: Dante more Ethan garbage situation.

1781
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 3: Well, that's true. That's a.

1782
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 2: That's a fair point too, because if you do that,

1783
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,920
Speaker 2: all you're gonna do is cause more confusion for yourself.

1784
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 4: Does know I have permission to have a bad game

1785
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 4: because if he doesn't, then.

1786
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:30,639
Speaker 3: He's not your starter.

1787
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 4: Yes, look at me making sense?

1788
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:38,800
Speaker 2: Hey, that's a that's a lot of sense right there, Ralph.

1789
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:41,600
Speaker 2: I must, I must say. That's more sense than I

1790
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:43,719
Speaker 2: care to hear at that point.

1791
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 4: But but you.

1792
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:46,799
Speaker 3: Hey, you have.

1793
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:51,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he doesn't, if he can't have a bad game,

1794
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 2: then he's not your starter. But if he can have

1795
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 2: a bad game, then yes, he is your starter.

1796
01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 4: It's crazy how important this game is. If Arizona wins,

1797
01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 4: how wins? Will that give them?

1798
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 3: They'll give them six? No, no, no five, that'll give them five.

1799
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 2: And they got Arizona State left, so they got a

1800
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 2: legit shot to get Bowl eligible. And they got Colorado

1801
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:20,559
Speaker 2: UCLA and Utah left, which are not unwinnable.

1802
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:23,680
Speaker 4: Games, but they're not gimmes.

1803
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 3: No, no, they're not. Game is like yes, because if

1804
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 3: they can get this game, they're gonna get Bowl eligible

1805
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 3: because they're gonna beat Arizona State.

1806
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:38,440
Speaker 4: And we're talking about Jetfish year three, middle of the schedule,

1807
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 4: five straight ranked opponents, because I think UCLA's gonna win.

1808
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 4: So five straight ranked opponents.

1809
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 3: And if you can get two of them and the

1810
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:49,840
Speaker 3: other two were one score losses.

1811
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 2: Oh bro, that's the thing is they're not getting their

1812
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 2: doors blown off. No, like that's the thing. And they

1813
01:42:57,240 --> 01:43:01,200
Speaker 2: shouldn't have lost that Mississippi State game, Like this should

1814
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 2: be a team that should is five and two right now.

1815
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I see, I don't even think they should

1816
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:08,439
Speaker 4: have lost the USC had they gone for two in

1817
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 4: the first overtime and or did not make the weird

1818
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 4: pitch in the third. Here's a deal, you you might

1819
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 4: as well if they get one of the next two games,

1820
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 4: you might as well give Jetfish one of those Justin

1821
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:22,640
Speaker 4: Wilcox extensions.

1822
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, even though it will just extend.

1823
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,519
Speaker 4: Yeah. Just Willcox had two years left on his contract,

1824
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:31,720
Speaker 4: a losing record, and they gave him four more years

1825
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 4: on top of it, and they still owe him twenty

1826
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:36,879
Speaker 4: million dollars and he hasn't even started the extension period

1827
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:40,599
Speaker 4: of that contract yet. That starts next year. If Jetfish

1828
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 4: wins one of these two games, you should do some

1829
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:47,759
Speaker 4: financially irresponsible stuff in my opinion as President Robert Robinson.

1830
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 3: Okay, br you're you're going straight to the do irresponsible stuff.

1831
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 4: Okay. I am pretty good at spending other people's money,

1832
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 4: if I do say so myself.

1833
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, well you guys, that's the end to

1834
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 2: pack twelve apostles for today.

1835
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, you're gonna announce your victory, mister

1836
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 4: Carson Steele.

1837
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, Oh my god, I forgot. Yes, it

1838
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 3: is back tied up. Your boy is in the building?

1839
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 3: Is six to six away? What's it?

1840
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 4: What score? Now? Six to six? And our our Player

1841
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 4: of the week contest, which is survival style, so you

1842
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,680
Speaker 4: pick a player that you haven't picked before and we

1843
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:31,800
Speaker 4: go head to head. Whoever has the better game you

1844
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 4: get points. If it's a quarterback one point, skill position

1845
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 4: two points, defensive player three. You went up four to nothing.

1846
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 4: I took a six to four lead over the next

1847
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 4: few weeks and now we are currently at six to six.

1848
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 4: I took elk Ioman or you took Carson Steel. Carson

1849
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 4: Steele hit three touchdowns. I wasn't gonna win that one, yep.

1850
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:54,599
Speaker 4: And I almost let you pick. You picked Colin Schlee,

1851
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,720
Speaker 4: and I shouldn't have said anything because you picked the

1852
01:44:57,760 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 4: wrong white person.

1853
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 3: With long air.

1854
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 4: So so who are you going? Who are you going

1855
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 4: with this week? To try to take a lead.

1856
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 3: If I picked this dude, he's for sure to let

1857
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 3: me down.

1858
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:15,599
Speaker 4: But if I don't.

1859
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 3: Roman duns Yeah, yep, no, Affida, I almost picked him.

1860
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 2: That's fine because I'll root for him. I would rather lose.

1861
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,759
Speaker 2: I would rather lose and know a f a feeda

1862
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:39,520
Speaker 2: ball out than the alternative.

1863
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 4: All right, you can be rooting for Washington.

1864
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 2: No, I'm not rooting for Washington. I'm just rooting for

1865
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 2: Roma Dunsa to go off. Actually, I don't even have

1866
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 2: to root for that. That just that just happens. That

1867
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 2: just takes care of itself.

1868
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 4: It just happens.

1869
01:45:56,760 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 3: Yes, I didn't want this, It just had and you guys,

1870
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 3: this podcast just happened. And I thank you for your time.

1871
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:08,559
Speaker 2: I thank you for your energy, because your time's most

1872
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:10,840
Speaker 2: valuable thing that you have. Appreciate you spending en us

1873
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:13,559
Speaker 2: here on the PAC twelve Apostles, Peace out cat you

1874
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 2: guys later here until we die.