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Speaker 2: Happy Friday, every budding. Hopefully you guys are having a
Speaker 2: great week. We're going to be reacting to that incredible
Speaker 2: game between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Speaker 2: Tie down one O three with about four minutes left,
Speaker 2: and then Anthony Edwards happened, and a moment that I
Speaker 2: thought demonstrated a lot of his growth over the course
Speaker 2: of this last season and the postseason last year, and
Speaker 2: some of the mistakes he had dealt with in the past.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be breaking that game down from the perspective
Speaker 2: of both teams. I was doing a live stream with
Speaker 2: my buddy Pete's As from Laker Film Room during the game,
Speaker 2: so that interfered with my ability to cover the other
Speaker 2: two games tonight, but I'm covering them tomorrow morning. So
Speaker 2: Magic Celtics, Pacers, Bucks will be hitting those games in
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning's show, but today just Lakers Timberwolves, and then
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Speaker 2: remainder of the postseason. All right, let's talk some basketball. So,
Speaker 2: as mentioned before, about one oh three to one oh three,
Speaker 2: but about four minutes left, I was on the playback
Speaker 2: stream with Pete Zayas and shout out to Pete. He's
Speaker 2: does incredible work. Love talking basketball with him. But we
Speaker 2: had been discussing throughout the game the reality that has
Speaker 2: been throughout this series that the Lakers are just a
Speaker 2: little bit more comfortable in the half court creating offense
Speaker 2: than Minnesota, as long as they can control the controllables right,
Speaker 2: like stay out of transition, don't turn the basketball over,
Speaker 2: you know, keep your body positioned properly to force the
Speaker 2: Wolves to make decisions and to make shots over the top. Essentially,
Speaker 2: what I've been referring to in the series is like
Speaker 2: hanging on to the rope they can hang out of
Speaker 2: the rope, they're fine, but if they don't hang onto
Speaker 2: the rope, they're gonna lose. And even with that last
Speaker 2: stretch that we saw from Anthony Edwards in that game,
Speaker 2: the Lakers logged day ninety nine offensive raiding in the
Speaker 2: half court and the Wolves log day ninety two offensive
Speaker 2: rating in the half court, there were twenty eight points
Speaker 2: off of nineteen Laker turnovers, some of the dumbest turnovers
Speaker 2: that I've ever seen from that team, just coffin the
Speaker 2: ball up right underneath the basket, like not protecting it
Speaker 2: after rebounds, trying to throw passes to guys two feet
Speaker 2: away that are not ready for the basketball. The Lakers
Speaker 2: just looked really sloppy and undisciplined, and that got them
Speaker 2: into a close game late, and in a close game late,
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards actually turned out to be the better half
Speaker 2: court shot creator. So regardless of what the numbers say,
Speaker 2: we had a one oz three to one oh three
Speaker 2: with four minutes left, mostly half court basketball, and ant
Speaker 2: just badly outplayed the Laker half court shot creators. Obviously,
Speaker 2: context there being Luca whatever the illness that he was
Speaker 2: dealing with tonight, But what really impressed me specifically, was
Speaker 2: the way that Anthony Edwards got the job done. They
Speaker 2: started moving his ISOs to the t top of the key,
Speaker 2: which I thought was interesting the ISOs that he had
Speaker 2: been running on the slot, meaning like more towards the wing.
Speaker 2: They allow the Lakers to be more planned in their approach. So,
Speaker 2: for instance, with Anthony Edwards on the right slot right wing,
Speaker 2: that defenders going to overplay the middle and try to
Speaker 2: funnel Ant towards the player who's digging down off the
Speaker 2: corner and the guy who's helping out from under the rim,
Speaker 2: effectively making him play one on three on his drives.
Speaker 2: We talked about this in our film sessions. A lot
Speaker 2: of ants layups in this series have been ripped through
Speaker 2: the primary defender, gather through the guy digging down from
Speaker 2: the corner, and then some sort of slaloming move around
Speaker 2: the dude at the rim so that he can get
Speaker 2: a layup and move him to the top of the key.
Speaker 2: And one of the things that that does is it
Speaker 2: puts Ant in a position where the defender guarding him
Speaker 2: has to square him up. One of the reasons why
Speaker 2: that matters is on the wing, when you can overplay aside,
Speaker 2: you can actually use that arm that you're using to
Speaker 2: overplay the side to get Closeru're on the pull up
Speaker 2: jump shot because you're less worried about giving up dribble
Speaker 2: penetration because you have more of a plan for it.
Speaker 2: But at the top of the key there, if you
Speaker 2: lean up like that, you can give up dribble penetration
Speaker 2: and be in some trouble. And so he was able
Speaker 2: to hit two step back threes in one on one
Speaker 2: situations where he was able to shed the defender that
Speaker 2: first one against Luca at the top of the key.
Speaker 2: Big part of that is he's got Lucas squared up.
Speaker 2: He's able to get that, you know, a little bit
Speaker 2: of backwards momentum so that he can do that pullback
Speaker 2: dribble uh and get separation for his shot. And like,
Speaker 2: as I was talking about with Pete on the broadcast,
Speaker 2: like the Lakers kind of have to live with that.
Speaker 2: There's a certain amount of Anthony Edwards pull up three
Speaker 2: that they're gonna have to live with unless they start doubling,
Speaker 2: which we did see a little bit of and I
Speaker 2: do think we'll see some more of that later in
Speaker 2: the series, but we'll talk about that in a minute.
Speaker 2: The play that I thought demonstrated the growth was the
Speaker 2: assistant nas read off the left wing, so he hits
Speaker 2: the step back over Luca. It's one oh six to
Speaker 2: one oh three, and he gets a drive along the
Speaker 2: right baseline, and instead of trying to force something up,
Speaker 2: he elevates and rifles a pass to nas Red on
Speaker 2: the left wing and he knocks down a three. Those
Speaker 2: reads have been there for Ant throughout the series. We
Speaker 2: talked about in Game two in our film session. It
Speaker 2: wasn't so much that the lake like look. The Lakers
Speaker 2: did compete more than they did in Game one, but
Speaker 2: the same reads were available. The strong side corner reads
Speaker 2: were there. Ant didn't make it a single time in
Speaker 2: Game two after he made it several times in Game one.
Speaker 3: The skip pass was there.
Speaker 2: He was getting into the teeth of the defense, and
Speaker 2: some of those passes were getting deflected or getting sent
Speaker 2: into areas where they were tougher for guys to attack
Speaker 2: off of. In tonight's game, just decisive down the stretch,
Speaker 2: knew exactly what he wanted to do, rifles that pass
Speaker 2: to nas Red, he knocks down the three, gets Lebron
Speaker 2: in a switch, crosses him up and gets into the
Speaker 2: basket for a layup, just surgical down the stretch, and
Speaker 2: that was the difference. It was one of three to
Speaker 2: one to three. They end on a thirteen to one run,
Speaker 2: fueled almost entirely by Anthony Edwards in his half court
Speaker 2: shot creation. That's really the thing. As I mentioned, the
Speaker 2: Wolves have these overwhelming advantages in the margins right like
Speaker 2: they are the bigger, more athletic team. They forced nineteen
Speaker 2: turnovers tonight that lead to twenty eight points. They have
Speaker 2: fifty six points in the paint compared to just twenty
Speaker 2: six for the Lakers. If Anthony Edwards can shrink the
Speaker 2: half court gap with that level of shot making, with
Speaker 2: that level of decision making, that's where the Wolves have
Speaker 2: the potential to end this series sooner than later. Because
Speaker 2: if they're the better half court team, and they're the better,
Speaker 2: you know, like detailed margin team, that's where they can
Speaker 2: end up in some trouble. Now, there's obviously going to
Speaker 2: be games in this series where Luca doesn't look like
Speaker 2: he did tonight. I thought Luca looked like an absolute
Speaker 2: shell of himself on in every phase of the game.
Speaker 2: There's a clear and concerted effort from the Wolves early
Speaker 2: in the game to attack Luca and Iso. We even
Speaker 2: saw that down the stretch with the shot that An't hit,
Speaker 2: that was inevitable. We heard a ton of that after
Speaker 2: the game in the press conferences. We had a feeling
Speaker 2: that the Wolve's coaching staff would emphasize that they did.
Speaker 2: The Timberwolves made a very concerted effort to attack Luca,
Speaker 2: and it was exacerbated by the fact that Luca just
Speaker 2: looked slow. The dead giveaway that you could tell Luca
Speaker 2: wasn't himself was he looked surprised by ball pressure, and
Speaker 2: he looked surprised by help defense, but like getting into
Speaker 2: the teeth of the defense and drawing a second body
Speaker 2: and then just trying to shoot and getting blocked. Or
Speaker 2: Jaden McDaniels jumping him along the left wing on one
Speaker 2: of his early catches with some ball pressure and Luca
Speaker 2: just looked like he was just like surprised by it
Speaker 2: as he coughed the ball up, like there was just
Speaker 2: a like this was a game where Luca was unable
Speaker 2: to overcome the physical circumstances that he was dealing with.
Speaker 2: And I thought that that really hurt the Lakers down
Speaker 2: the stretch as great as Lebron was And obviously Lebron
Speaker 2: was incredible tonight on both ends of the floor. His
Speaker 2: shot making was the best we've seen from him since
Speaker 2: he came back from his growing injury. That pull up
Speaker 2: transition three he hit was like one of the most
Speaker 2: difficult shots I've seen him take under the circumstances. Kind
Speaker 2: of reminded me of the shot Steph hit against Amn
Speaker 2: Thompson near half court where it was like sprinting to
Speaker 2: his right kind of forward, just left right footwork, elevates,
Speaker 2: just sticks it. You could just tell he just had
Speaker 2: great lift and he stuck it. But Lebron is not
Speaker 2: going to be able to really create offense in a
Speaker 2: half court as effectively as Luca can when he's right.
Speaker 2: And that was really the difference in the game tonight
Speaker 2: when they got it too one o three, one oh three,
Speaker 2: it was gonna be Anthony Edwards versus Luka Doncic, and
Speaker 2: Luca just didn't have it tonight, and Anthony Edwards showed
Speaker 2: what his ultimate potential is. I was talking with Pete
Speaker 2: on the broadcast, like, it's been really hard for me
Speaker 2: in this series because all of you guys who are
Speaker 2: longtime listeners of the show. Know that Anthony Everards is
Speaker 2: one of my favorite players and having to root against
Speaker 2: him is not a fun experience. But I have so
Speaker 2: much excitement for Aunt with his big picture potential simply
Speaker 2: because of the fact that there's really nothing you can
Speaker 2: do to stop him from either creating a clean look
Speaker 2: for himself or him being able to dart through the
Speaker 2: lane and elevate and make a high level kickout pass.
Speaker 2: You can't stop him from doing one of those two things.
Speaker 2: The shot that he gave up that he hit on DFS,
Speaker 2: the shot that he hit on Luca. You have to
Speaker 2: concede those. If you take them away, he will go
Speaker 2: right around you all night long. And so really that
Speaker 2: that's the big picture potential with ant that's so exciting.
Speaker 2: Once he learns to really read all these defensive schemes,
Speaker 2: that is that is where he's going to be able
Speaker 2: to just oscillate between high level aggression high level kickout
Speaker 2: passes based on you know, what the defense is giving
Speaker 2: or taking away from him, And that's where he's going
Speaker 2: to be able to float his offense for larger portions
Speaker 2: of games through higher level playmaking. They're so like this
Speaker 2: kid is barely scratching the surface of what he's capable
Speaker 2: of being as a basketball player, and it's it's it's
Speaker 2: scary to think about twenty seven year old aunt when
Speaker 2: he still has the forty five inch vertical or whatever
Speaker 2: the hell he has, and he still is the forty
Speaker 2: two percent high volume ten threes a game type of guy,
Speaker 2: but a guy that can get up into that five
Speaker 2: six seven assists per game, high level kickout reads really
Speaker 2: starting to become the half court surgeon. And like you know,
Speaker 2: before the season, I said Anthony Edwards was the fifth
Speaker 2: best player in the league that I would pick the
Speaker 2: lead a franchise from the start of the season through
Speaker 2: to the through the NBA Finals. And there was another
Speaker 2: sign to that take involving me bumping Tatum down to seven,
Speaker 2: which ended up being the wrong part of that. Tatum
Speaker 2: was fantastic again tonight, at least for the parts that
Speaker 2: I watched. And I think that if you were to
Speaker 2: list the top four players in the league, it's pretty
Speaker 2: clearly you know, Kitch's, it's Yannis, It's Shay yieldis Alexander,
Speaker 2: It's Jason Tatum. Maybe Luca again at some point soon
Speaker 2: if he can get physically right, But Anthony Edwards, to
Speaker 2: me is arguably that fifth guy. So here we are
Speaker 2: in April, and through the course of this season from
Speaker 2: October to now, has shown the growth as a jump shooter,
Speaker 2: has shown the growth as a half court shot creator.
Speaker 2: Think about it in Game one too, He's fantastic in
Speaker 2: Game one nine. It's just one turnover. He's been playing
Speaker 2: at a higher level as a half court decision maker
Speaker 2: than he has at any point in his career, and
Speaker 2: I think you can make the case that he's encroaching
Speaker 2: on that top tier of guys. With the level of
Speaker 2: play that he's reaching, I think that the Lakers are
Speaker 2: going to have to start considering double teaming him. We
Speaker 2: saw a little bit of it towards the end of
Speaker 2: the game, right after he already put things away, specifically
Speaker 2: picking him up earlier in the possession out towards half court.
Speaker 2: The Wolves are not very attentive in those situations, flashing
Speaker 2: and quickly breaking down the defense in those situations. I
Speaker 2: think the Lakers are going to have to consider doing that.
Speaker 2: If ant continues to find that kind of groove in
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. It's not something that I would just
Speaker 2: bring out first quarter right away. But it's something that
Speaker 2: I would consider pulling out a little sooner in game
Speaker 2: in Game four than JJ pulled it out in Game three.
Speaker 2: But all around, just much smarter approach from the Wolves tonight,
Speaker 2: attacking Luca instead of just you know, hunting the Lakers
Speaker 2: better perimeter defenders, Anthony Edwards, the half court surgeon down
Speaker 2: the stretch, and then they are the physically dominant team.
Speaker 2: They were able to get the Lakers to let go
Speaker 2: of the rope tonight. There were so many examples of
Speaker 2: them just just getting sloppy rushing and like Austin Reeves
Speaker 2: had a few turnovers where you could just tell he's rushing,
Speaker 2: he's struggling against the ball, pressure's dribbling the ball off
Speaker 2: his knee or losing control of it one way or
Speaker 2: the other. You know, Jared Vanderbilt looked like he was
Speaker 2: a little sped up tonight, you know, like Ruyachamura looked
Speaker 2: like he was a little sped up tonight. There was
Speaker 2: just a lot of EXAs amples where the Wolves and
Speaker 2: their pressure cause the Lakers to let go of the rope,
Speaker 2: and their pathway is very simple. Even with what Aunt
Speaker 2: showed tonight, even with the attacks of Luca. The Lakers
Speaker 2: are the better half court team. If they can keep
Speaker 2: things in the half court and they don't turn the
Speaker 2: basketball over and they just surgically go about the process
Speaker 2: of creating advantages and playing off of it, they can
Speaker 2: win the series. But it's gonna be tough, and it
Speaker 2: doesn't look good with the way that this series breaks
Speaker 2: down from a schedule standpoint.
Speaker 3: Now. I talked a lot over the course of the
Speaker 3: last couple of days how I.
Speaker 2: Viewed Game three as a game the Lakers kind of
Speaker 2: needed because they don't just turn around and play on Sunday.
Speaker 2: They turn around and play on Sunday at a twelve
Speaker 2: thirty tip. So some basic math, that's less than forty
Speaker 2: hours from now, that they have to turn around, that
Speaker 2: Lebron after that game has to get his body right,
Speaker 2: that Luca after dealing with food poisoning has to get
Speaker 2: his body right. And you know, this is the thing,
Speaker 2: it's super unfortunate, like win or lose, whether it's Minnesota
Speaker 2: or LA that ends up advancing. I'd rather see it
Speaker 2: happen with both teams at full strength. But you don't
Speaker 2: get you don't get to you don't get to take
Speaker 2: a day. You don't get to call in. And we
Speaker 2: were joking about it on the live stream, like it's
Speaker 2: it's not like I've had food poisoning before. I know
Speaker 2: you guys all have. It's pretty shitty feeling. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of laying around. There's a lot of like, oh
Speaker 2: I stood up for a minute and now I immediately
Speaker 2: feel nauseous. There's a lot of like horrible feeling that
Speaker 2: comes with that. Can you imagine if it was like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, I gotta go play the Minnesota Timberwolves tonight.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's crazy to not just to play the
Speaker 2: Minnesota Timberwolves, but to have to play them in a
Speaker 2: high level, high leverage playoff game.
Speaker 3: And but it is what it is.
Speaker 2: Everyone's dealing with certain types of ailments, whether they be physical,
Speaker 2: whether they be with health. And you know, Luca just
Speaker 2: wasn't able to overcome it tonight, and down the stretch
Speaker 2: they just didn't have a go to action that they
Speaker 2: could go to.
Speaker 3: You could tell.
Speaker 2: I mean Luca had two ISOs down the stretch, one
Speaker 2: against Jaden and one against Julius where he just didn't
Speaker 2: get any separation and he's like trying to throw what
Speaker 2: he got Jalen Jayden, excuse me along the left kind
Speaker 2: of short corner area where you know, Luca did his
Speaker 2: patented like little fake step back pump fake, and Jaden
Speaker 2: was just all over it. And he had to rifle
Speaker 2: a cross court pass to the right corner that wasn't
Speaker 2: really open. He went at Julius Randall, and Julius Randall
Speaker 2: forced him to pick up his dribble around the right block.
Speaker 2: Like Luca literally wasn't even getting separation down the stretch,
Speaker 2: and even the shots that he was making tonight, like
Speaker 2: the shot that he hit over Julius Randall on the
Speaker 2: left wing, like that was an insanely difficult shot. Like
Speaker 2: he's not getting separation in this game because of the
Speaker 2: physical ailment that he's dealing with. And so the pathway
Speaker 2: for the Lakers to get back into a position where
Speaker 2: they're in control of this series, they can get home
Speaker 2: court just by winning one. The Wolves stole one, They
Speaker 2: got to steal one in Game four. They need to
Speaker 2: hang onto the rope. They need a better performance from Luca.
Speaker 2: They need to maintain the rhythm that we saw from
Speaker 2: Austin and Lebron. Austin early hits a couple threes. You
Speaker 2: could tell he was zero for six in Game one,
Speaker 2: but he got some clean looks. He found a way
Speaker 2: to get some of those to go. I thought they're
Speaker 2: out the game, Like the Lakers shot really well from
Speaker 2: three in this game, But I thought there were a lot.
Speaker 3: Of really good looks.
Speaker 2: Lebron hit a couple of tough pull ups, Austin hit
Speaker 2: a couple of tough pull ups, Luca hit a couple,
Speaker 2: hit one in particular on the left wing that was
Speaker 2: pretty tough. But the Ruby catching shoot threes, those are
Speaker 2: clean looks. The DFS catching shoot threes, those are clean looks.
Speaker 2: The Gabe Vincent catching shoot threes, those are clean looks.
Speaker 2: A lot of Austin's were clean looks. If they can
Speaker 2: take care of the ball, keep the game in the
Speaker 2: half court, execute their offense, they can win this series.
Speaker 2: But they have now put themselves in a position where
Speaker 2: they got to win three of the next four, and
Speaker 2: that's just really hard to do under any circumstances. Certainly
Speaker 2: when two of those games are gonna be in Minnesota's
Speaker 2: it's a tough spot to be. So we're gonna let's
Speaker 2: open it up to the chat. Now we can get
Speaker 2: into any more details about the series that you guys
Speaker 2: want to if you guys have any specific questions about tonight,
Speaker 2: But we can also get into some of the other series.
Speaker 2: Just remember I have not seen Bucks Pacers at all,
Speaker 2: and I only saw about the first two thirds of
Speaker 2: that Celtics Magic game.
Speaker 1: We definitely got a lot of questions about this game.
Speaker 1: First up, last year, Luca dominated the one on one
Speaker 1: matchup with Jaden McDaniels. You've obviously talked a lot about that.
Speaker 1: What is different this year?
Speaker 2: Jaden has done a better job with his physicality and
Speaker 2: his pressure in the series. But like I thought all
Speaker 2: night long, tonight, Luca just didn't have his burst. I
Speaker 2: thought Luca was just a shell of himself. I mean,
Speaker 2: all you have to do is look at the box score.
Speaker 2: Five turnovers, six for sixteen from the field, seventeen points.
Speaker 2: Like Luca has had high point totals consistently in the
Speaker 2: lakers last several games. Let me see if I can
Speaker 2: pull it up. But like, yeah, thirty one, thirty seven,
Speaker 2: thirty nine, forty five, twenty three, thirty thirty five, that's
Speaker 2: the last, you know, eight or so games that lou
Speaker 2: Is played his seventeen tonight hit sixty eight points against
Speaker 2: the timber Wolves in the.
Speaker 3: First two games. It's just he just didn't have the
Speaker 3: burst tonight. It is what it is. You don't get
Speaker 3: to take you don't get a rain check, you don't
Speaker 3: get to replay game three. That it just it is
Speaker 3: what it is. The Lakers had to win with the
Speaker 3: shelle of Luca tonight and they couldn't get it done.
Speaker 1: Another question about the Lakers defense. Hey, Jason Duke from
Speaker 1: Ghana here, don't you think the Lakers are over helping
Speaker 1: on Ant's drives? Reducing the number of players helping on
Speaker 1: his drives will sort of help with those Wolves kickout threes?
Speaker 2: No, because I think I think Ant Ant has in
Speaker 2: many cases tried to force the issue through those situations,
Speaker 2: and I still think your pathway forward is to force
Speaker 2: Ant to beat you with the pass. So like he's
Speaker 2: done it twice in this series so far twenty nine
Speaker 2: points eight assists tonight. But in theory throughout the rest
Speaker 2: of the series, you want him beating you with the pass.
Speaker 2: You want him beating you with force him to make
Speaker 2: that kickout read over and over again, and like, does
Speaker 2: he make that same kickout read if it's one oh seven,
Speaker 2: one oh three Lakers with a little lead late in
Speaker 2: the game, or does he force the issue like you
Speaker 2: still want to prey on his inconsistency for the record,
Speaker 2: and has zero assists in game two, so that game
Speaker 2: plan can work. It just it's it's it's about playing
Speaker 2: into his youthful inconsistency.
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, I think here's he's so dynamic
Speaker 1: downhill and he's become such a good three point shooter.
Speaker 1: He literally led the league this season and makes that
Speaker 1: he has through his hard work, has created He's made
Speaker 1: his game almost impossible to defend. Like you don't have
Speaker 1: a good option, what are you supposed to do? Let
Speaker 1: him just iso and not help and let him finish
Speaker 1: Over the Lakers and lack of improtection, they don't have
Speaker 1: any improtectors. It's a lot easier to say we're not
Speaker 1: gonna we're not gonna overhelp if you have Rudy Gobert
Speaker 1: on the inside, for example, then it is if you
Speaker 1: have Jackson Hayes or Ruby Hachimurra or whoever is on
Speaker 1: the back line. You know, next question, why are the
Speaker 1: Lakers not utilizing and more on ant is his offense
Speaker 1: really making him unplayable.
Speaker 2: Vando has been really mistake prone in this series. He
Speaker 2: had a decent first half shift, but like he had
Speaker 2: that play where he fouled Julius Rayndel because he like
Speaker 2: failed to pick him up in transition. There was what
Speaker 2: was the mistake he made in the second oh yeah,
Speaker 2: where he gets that defensive rebound and like Nikkeil Alexander
Speaker 2: Walker is like running right up to him and he
Speaker 2: just holds the ball out and lets Nikkeil Alexander Walker
Speaker 2: take the ball away from him. He's just he's just
Speaker 2: been a little he's been a step slow in his reads.
Speaker 2: There was a Luca turnover on a blitz where when
Speaker 2: think of like the Steph Curry blitz sequence that we've
Speaker 2: seen a thousand times, Draymond short rolls out of it,
Speaker 2: Steph floats the ball over the top, Draymond goes down
Speaker 2: the lane, someone steps over and helps either sprays it
Speaker 2: to the corner, he drops it off to a cutter
Speaker 2: for a dunk.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: There was a sequence where Jared Vanderbilt was the screener.
Speaker 2: Luca got blitzed and instead of short rolling out of it,
Speaker 2: he rolled all the way to the rim and when
Speaker 2: he rolled all the way to the rim. Luca did
Speaker 2: not have a play that a player that he could
Speaker 2: pass the ball to right in the middle of the floor,
Speaker 2: and so Luca had to try to force a pass
Speaker 2: all the way down to Vando on the like dunker
Speaker 2: spot area and ended up in a turnover. Like they're
Speaker 2: a couple things. Vando can do a decent job on Ant,
Speaker 2: but the job of guarding Ant as a five man job,
Speaker 2: it is not a one man job, and there's just
Speaker 2: too much mistake making and not enough on offense to
Speaker 2: justify high minute totals for Jared Vanderbilt. I still think
Speaker 2: ultimately this series goes down with their core five guys
Speaker 2: being Dorian Finney Smith as the fifth, with those guys
Speaker 2: all playing like forty two to forty three minutes in
Speaker 2: a big game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the mistakes across the board were rough tonight. I
Speaker 1: mean the Lakers had what nineteen turnovers and it felt
Speaker 1: like five or six of them or either fumbled passes
Speaker 1: or dribbled off their.
Speaker 3: Leg Yeah, like that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Luca got a defensive rebound and saw Austin flash in
Speaker 2: front of him, and instead of just bringing the ball
Speaker 2: up the floor like he's always done. He like tried
Speaker 2: to throw the ball to Austin from two feet away
Speaker 2: and it just bounced off his lap and went right
Speaker 2: to Antony, Like that was what happened on the play
Speaker 2: where Aunt dunked on Luca. Aunt dunked on Luca because
Speaker 2: Luca coughed the ball up. Lebron on his hot streak.
Speaker 2: He gets on his hot streak, catches the ball up
Speaker 2: on the right wing, immediately just coffs the ball up
Speaker 2: and like every single one of those cough ups like
Speaker 2: immediately led to like an and one or a dunk,
Speaker 2: or like like the Wolves made them pay every single
Speaker 2: time you gave up thirty points on turnovers in a
Speaker 2: game that was tied with four minutes left, like it
Speaker 2: like this was Pete and I were joking during the stream,
Speaker 2: like that's a game you deserve to lose, Like the
Speaker 2: basketball gods are not gonna let you win a game
Speaker 2: where you play that sloppy, And I'd like ant ant
Speaker 2: was great all night, and he pulled it out late
Speaker 2: with his own with his individual greatness. But like the
Speaker 2: Lakers didn't play well enough to deserve to win that game.
Speaker 2: They were lucky to be into it.
Speaker 3: The way they were thanks to the shot making of Lebron,
Speaker 3: James and Ousin Reeves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have been a complete theft if they
Speaker 1: were able to come up with that game. What are
Speaker 1: your You talked time on this briefly, but what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Lebron's ability to have to have a
Speaker 1: highly impactful game on Sunday considering the short turnaround?
Speaker 2: I think Lebron's gonna be fine on Sunday. Do I
Speaker 2: think he's gonna go for thirty eight again? Probably not,
Speaker 2: But like I think I Lebron is the most dependable
Speaker 2: big game player that I've that I've personally ever seen
Speaker 2: because of his floor being so high. If my entire
Speaker 2: life is a Lebron fan, every time I've gone into
Speaker 2: a truly big game, which Game four is a big game,
Speaker 2: you go down three to one, it's really hard to come. Now,
Speaker 2: you gotta win three times in a row against Minnesota Timberls. Like,
Speaker 2: if the Lakers are gonna win this series, they need
Speaker 2: to win on Sunday. Lebron knows that you can guarantee
Speaker 2: at least twenty seven and five and Draymond Green asque
Speaker 2: defense on Sunday. They're not like like to me, the
Speaker 2: swing factor is Luca. Luca needs to have a massive
Speaker 2: bounce back game on Sunday. He like like owes it
Speaker 2: to the team and like, I get it. What happened
Speaker 2: to him was super unfortunate, but ultimately they lost this
Speaker 2: game because their best player was a complete and total
Speaker 2: shell of himself. So like they need Luca to get
Speaker 2: di ivy fluids, getting Lebron's hyper bear chamber, do whatever
Speaker 2: the hell he needs to do. Hell if it's a
Speaker 2: beer that he needs to get to get back in shape,
Speaker 2: like do something get him back on his feet, and like,
Speaker 2: Luca needs to be amazing on Sunday.
Speaker 1: What do you make of Lebron and and Conley laughing
Speaker 1: and joking around during that late review? Do you care
Speaker 1: at all? Do you not care?
Speaker 2: I don't care at all? Like, did you guys feel
Speaker 2: like Lebron wasn't competing? Did you guys feel like Mike
Speaker 2: Conley wasn't competing? Did you guys feel like Anthony Edwards
Speaker 2: wasn't Like those guys were like putting it all on
Speaker 2: the line on the floor, Like, like to me, like
Speaker 2: Lebron and Ant were Team USA teammates, and Lebron has
Speaker 2: famously been a guy that will make somewhat light of
Speaker 2: big moments, Like you remember when he hit the pull
Speaker 2: up three right after Paul George dunked all over the Birdman,
Speaker 2: and then he like went up and like went up
Speaker 2: to Paul George is like, hey, we're playing some great
Speaker 2: basketball here. Like that's the thing you gotta remember too,
Speaker 2: Like that was a hell of a game, guys, that
Speaker 2: was a show. Lebron and Aunt put on a show tonight.
Speaker 2: We were treated as basketball fans to an incredible basketball game.
Speaker 2: And I feel like there's there are some moments where
Speaker 2: those guys are out there and like, hey, what we're
Speaker 2: doing is pretty cool here.
Speaker 1: This is a funny question from Miles. What did you
Speaker 1: say when Conley banked in that three?
Speaker 3: I thought he banked in it on purpose.
Speaker 2: Well, so, if I remember correctly, Luca got beat on
Speaker 2: a baseline crash by Conley, and then after Conley got
Speaker 2: the rebound, he dribbled out to the wing. But it
Speaker 2: was so visibly obvious, like two feet off to the
Speaker 2: left off of his hand, that I just Mike Commy
Speaker 2: had to have tried to bank that on purpose. It
Speaker 2: was a decent look too, like he had a decent
Speaker 2: amount of separations.
Speaker 1: He was laughing coming down the other do you think
Speaker 1: it was lucky? But either way, man, that's a banked
Speaker 1: in three in the fourth qut of a playoff game.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: What was your opinion on Rudy Gobert's impact in this
Speaker 1: game and throughout the series? His statistics as well if
Speaker 1: his offensive impact are almost non existent, but it feels
Speaker 1: like he's sparked a couple of rounds, especially in the
Speaker 1: first quarter.
Speaker 2: Rudy I thought was good tonight. They ran a lot
Speaker 2: more diversified coverages with him tonight, like and this is
Speaker 2: where it's like, yeah, I think it's so fun there
Speaker 2: there was such a conversation surrounding the Rudy Gobert and
Speaker 2: the ISOs, and there's a lot of like numbers getting
Speaker 2: thrown around. My read in game two was that Luca
Speaker 2: had solved the go Beart switches. In the second half.
Speaker 2: He had generated back to back wide open catching three,
Speaker 2: a catch and shoot threes attacking Rudy and ISOs, one
Speaker 2: of which was a Dorian Phinney Smith one that he made.
Speaker 2: The Lakers had been getting one point zero seven points
Speaker 2: per Iso just counting shot attempts, not even counting passes
Speaker 2: as a team against Rudy in the first two games.
Speaker 2: So like for all of the talk, like the coaching,
Speaker 2: the players and coaches will.
Speaker 3: Tell you what they think.
Speaker 2: And they came into Game three and they stopped switching
Speaker 2: with Rudy, So did that should tell you, guys what
Speaker 2: the Minnesota coaching staff felt about Rudy Gobert defending and
Speaker 2: switches on the perimeter. They did randomly switch with him
Speaker 2: once in the second half, and he jumped up on
Speaker 2: Luca and forced a turnover. But once again, Luca just
Speaker 2: like like surprised by ballpre like I like, one of
Speaker 2: the most bizarre Luca games I've ever seen. And I'm
Speaker 2: just chalking it up to the food poisoning and throwing
Speaker 2: it out because I refuse to believe he would play
Speaker 2: like that under normal circumstances. But they ran a lot
Speaker 2: of drop coverage. They blitzed with him a few times tonight,
Speaker 2: so I at the level coverage and Luca just Luca
Speaker 2: wasn't able to attack it the way that he usually did.
Speaker 2: But overall, I thought Rudy was fine tonight. They won
Speaker 2: his minutes. Like I think in general, like he has,
Speaker 2: he has provided enough positive impact to justify the minutes
Speaker 2: that he's been getting. The Lakers have been unable to
Speaker 2: like play him off the floor. We did see when
Speaker 2: Luca attacked him along that right lane line and bumped
Speaker 2: him with that left shoulder and hit that little hook
Speaker 2: that was a drop coverage possession. It kind of looked
Speaker 2: like a switch because he was attacking Luke Rudy one
Speaker 2: on one, but it was a drop coverage possession. And
Speaker 2: after that shot they did bail on him and go
Speaker 2: to Nasried, But I think that could have just as
Speaker 2: been easily been for offense, and it was Nasried who
Speaker 2: literally ended up hitting a three on that critical possession late,
Speaker 2: So like I'd argue that Chris Finch made the right
Speaker 2: call there for sure.
Speaker 1: We can take a couple from some away from this series. Hey, Jason,
Speaker 1: loved the show. What has been your favorite series to
Speaker 1: watch so far these playoffs?
Speaker 2: That's a really good question, Pistons Nicks. I just there's
Speaker 2: a lot of players in that series that I really like.
Speaker 2: That Pistons team, to me, has a lot of likable
Speaker 2: guys that I think are gonna be fun guys to
Speaker 2: like root for. For the Pistons over the course of
Speaker 2: the next half decade.
Speaker 3: I would say.
Speaker 2: I've gotten a good amount of enjoyment out of Celtics
Speaker 2: Magic too. I really enjoyed watching that game today. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and like even though, like I will say, some of
Speaker 2: these Palo mid range jump shots are like IY sores
Speaker 2: to me, and it just kills me that he won't
Speaker 2: work a little closer to the bad place.
Speaker 1: It was really funny how on the broadcast I was
Speaker 1: watching very closely as a Celtics fan, how Jay Billis
Speaker 1: was like, basically or no, Tim is Tim Legler, And
Speaker 1: I think Tim Legler's usually great at this kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: So I'm not taking a shot out really at Tim
Speaker 1: Legler because I really am a big fan of his.
Speaker 1: But in this game, he was like those those mid
Speaker 1: range pull ups when he creates space basically a layup
Speaker 1: for Paolo.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, not exactly, I don't know about that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull up now. I'm curious. I want to
Speaker 2: see what Polo's shooting from the mid range in this postseason.
Speaker 2: But it's it's it's one of those things where the
Speaker 2: even with it, there's a lot of like tough off
Speaker 2: the dribble, mid range jump shots that are getting taken
Speaker 2: in that series. But it is just fun because the
Speaker 2: Magic crowd was great, are super big, been big and physical,
Speaker 2: and they can play the Celtics into some uncomfortable stretches.
Speaker 2: But to me, and I don't know if you feel
Speaker 2: this way Jackson, even with the loss, the Celtics are
Speaker 2: still putting together some of the prettiest stretches of basketball
Speaker 2: two way basketball that I'm seeing in the league right now.
Speaker 2: And they had a couple tonight, like they had that
Speaker 2: run right before the half. Tatum had this stretch where
Speaker 2: he just like went down boom pull up three, went
Speaker 2: down tough right shoulder fade bam, went down tough.
Speaker 3: Pull up three at the top of the key.
Speaker 2: Like they will just blitz you in these like short
Speaker 2: periods of time and make leads just completely disappear. I
Speaker 2: would say, yeah, Magic Celtics and then Pistons. Pistons Nicks
Speaker 2: have been two of my absolute favorites. While you're asking
Speaker 2: the next question, I'll pull up the numbers from Pallo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think my favorites before the game. The last
Speaker 1: two games were the Nuggets, Clippers on the Warriors, Rockets,
Speaker 1: Game one of that series, but then Game two of
Speaker 1: that series in Game three of Clippers Nuggets were both
Speaker 1: blow out, so I kind of lost a little bit
Speaker 1: of the last.
Speaker 2: There for me, but really quickly twenty four points on
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six shots from the mid range shofer, So
Speaker 2: he's been good. That's that's solid for mid range basketball
Speaker 2: in the postseason. In the regular season, he was thirty
Speaker 2: one percent on long twos outside of seventeen feet, but
Speaker 2: he was fifty one percent inside of seventeen feet, which
Speaker 2: is literally the point that I'm trying to make. Like
Speaker 2: the point that I'm trying to make is that like
Speaker 2: he actually has such imposing size that he can get
Speaker 2: short range shots that are high like highly efficient, but
Speaker 2: as soon as he gets out to the elbows and out,
Speaker 2: it just turns into not a layup to counter Tim Legler.
Speaker 2: But like, like that that's really the piece of it.
Speaker 2: Like he's fifty one percent inside of seventeen feet, thirty
Speaker 2: one percent outside of seventeen feet, thirty two percent from three.
Speaker 2: It's that's really for him, the goal is just fighting
Speaker 2: to get positioned closer to the basket. He's also forty
Speaker 2: nine percent on runners floaters.
Speaker 3: So there we go.
Speaker 1: Okay, we talked about this a little bit last show,
Speaker 1: but until the game has played tomorrow, it's so an
Speaker 1: interesting question. What are the Warriors chances to make it
Speaker 1: past the Rockets, either without Jimmy Butler with a hobble
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler, or what's the what's the outlook there?
Speaker 2: I told you before the broadcast tonight that I viewed
Speaker 2: the Lakers now as slightly less than a coin flip.
Speaker 2: Like I viewed them as about a coin flip in
Speaker 2: Game one. Now is like slightly less than a coin flip.
Speaker 2: I am still I still feel like the Warriors are
Speaker 2: gonna deal with Houston relative like I think they're gonna
Speaker 2: win Game three, in Game four, like I there is
Speaker 2: a there is a a reality in that series.
Speaker 3: Which is.
Speaker 2: Houston cannot score against the Warriors in the half court
Speaker 2: when they're really engaged and they have their guys and
Speaker 2: they're healthy, they can't. There is an element with the
Speaker 2: Lakers where it's like, well, if Ant's gonna hit his
Speaker 2: pull up threes and make the kickout reads, like we're
Speaker 2: sol where Like I actually like, I think, what do
Speaker 2: you think? What do you think is the likelihood. Let's
Speaker 2: just put it this way. Do you think it's like,
Speaker 2: what would you pick as the more the more likely
Speaker 2: scenario that Jalen Green has less than fifteen points in
Speaker 2: Game two or that he has more than twenty five.
Speaker 1: Oh, less than fifteen, more than twenty five. I would
Speaker 1: probably say less than fifteen. I'd probably sate lesson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna tighten things up there and
Speaker 2: they're gonna get that figured out. Like I I I
Speaker 2: think even if Jimmy Butler didn't play in Game three
Speaker 2: or Game four, that the Warriors would win Game three
Speaker 2: in Game four.
Speaker 1: That's that's a that's a prediction.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 1: Let's see if I can find.
Speaker 2: Guys like there's this like reality that happens when Jimmy
Speaker 2: goes down and leaves the game and Brandon Pajemski is
Speaker 2: like clearly hampered, and like you there is a feeling
Speaker 2: within the basketball team where it's like, oh, we we
Speaker 2: kind of don't have it tonight, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And that trickles into every single element of the game,
Speaker 2: you know, and like like they're gonna come out and
Speaker 2: game like I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors won
Speaker 2: Game three by twenty plus.
Speaker 1: Jalen Green's prop or his player props on DraftKings right
Speaker 1: now for Game three, they MIAs one fifteen at twenty
Speaker 1: one plus. They don't give Hi an exact number, which
Speaker 1: is weird, but twenty one plus is MIUS one fifteen,
Speaker 1: so they're expecting about twenty one is the over under?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the over under would be around like twenty
Speaker 2: point five, like in that area and like that that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like and I would take the under. I would take
Speaker 2: the under there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I texted you after last game. I was like, what
Speaker 1: are the odds he has another game over twenty five
Speaker 1: in the whole series? And You're like, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's get one.
Speaker 2: This is this is actually a crazy stat because like
Speaker 2: I talked about how Jalen Green when he scored thirty
Speaker 2: points in the regular season, he did it fourteen times
Speaker 2: and they went thirteen and one, but there were this
Speaker 2: is this is like crazy, this is how many this
Speaker 2: is how many times this season he scored single digits.
Speaker 2: He scored single digits twelve times. He scored fewer than
Speaker 2: fifteen points twenty four times. So to the to the
Speaker 2: point he's like almost twice as likely to fail to
Speaker 2: reach fifteen than he is to get over thirty, and
Speaker 2: that like, it's just Jalen Green always has that upside.
Speaker 2: It just is it's so inconsistent and like to get
Speaker 2: if I'm a Rockets fan, having gotten it.
Speaker 3: Once in the series feels like a luxury. It's hard
Speaker 3: to match.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy because it is hard to imagine him
Speaker 1: doing it again in Golden State. But if you watch
Speaker 1: Game two, you're like, this, dude's Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 2: Basically, dude, I can never I've been talking about this
Speaker 2: forever with Jalen Green and with Jonathan Kaminga, which is
Speaker 2: like the freaky athlete with some size, because that's the key.
Speaker 2: It's it's not Scoot Henderson, It's Jalen Green in the
Speaker 2: sense that like there's some real size there, and real
Speaker 2: athleticism with size is so hard to give up on
Speaker 2: because they they really do just have sky high potential
Speaker 2: and when they do get into their rhythm, when they
Speaker 2: start to gain that confidence, they can be a force
Speaker 2: to be reckoned with.
Speaker 1: For sure. Let's say one more, This is a non
Speaker 1: playoff question, what's the Spurs next movie of this offseason?
Speaker 1: To to keep the path forward.
Speaker 3: To contention, scour for vets.
Speaker 2: Your timeline is accelerated now you have Dearon Fox, you
Speaker 2: have Victor Webbanyama. You need to be looking for players
Speaker 2: that can play at the two and the three and
Speaker 2: the four, that can defend hit three's attack, closeouts, connective playmaking,
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. From a draft standpoint too, I
Speaker 2: think I think because you have Steph Castle, because you
Speaker 2: have Victor Wembenyama, you no longer need to be drafting
Speaker 2: for upside. You need to be drafting for immediate utility.
Speaker 2: So looking for you know, fourth year seniors, fifth year seniors,
Speaker 2: guys that have been in college programs that teach fundamentals
Speaker 2: really well, that are going to produce a lot of
Speaker 2: pro ready role player type of guys. This is your
Speaker 2: You're just looking to fill the roster with guys that
Speaker 2: can do small roles. Now, like Daron Fox is absolutely
Speaker 2: fine as you're primary perimeter shot creator, Victor women Yama
Speaker 2: is absolutely fine as a secondary shot creator. You are
Speaker 2: teed up for success. You just got to build around
Speaker 2: the margins at this point. All right, guys, that's all
Speaker 2: we have for tonight. As always, I sincerely appreciate you
Speaker 2: guys for supporting me and supporting the show. Jackson, you
Speaker 2: got a movie time tomorrow morning?
Speaker 3: Right? What movie youre going to see?
Speaker 1: I'm going to see Sinners all right on.
Speaker 3: I need to see that.
Speaker 2: I just need to find some time. A Revenge of
Speaker 2: the Sith is back in the theater, so I need
Speaker 2: to go find some time to go see that too.
Speaker 2: But the episode will probably be up. The episode for
Speaker 2: the Bucks Magic and Bucks excuse me, Bucks Pacers and
Speaker 2: Celtics Magic will probably be up a little bit closer
Speaker 2: to noon ish Pacific time. But none of those teams
Speaker 2: are playing tomorrow, so they'll still be available. But I
Speaker 2: think they're worth I think those games are worth digging
Speaker 2: into because both of those teams managed to get the
Speaker 2: home win in Game three, so it's worth looking at
Speaker 2: what they did to succeed. So we'll have that up
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