1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: At least. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: is the Matt Williamson and Matt Steelers continuing with their 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: prospect visits. 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 3: Yah. 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Three more guys in today. That would be Kansas 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: State running back DJ Giddensky interesting player, Texas A and 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: M outside linebacker Shamar Stewart huh and SMU defensive tackle 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: Jared Henderson Hunt. 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: Don't know a lot about him. 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: He's in Miami transfer who was one of the guys 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: that you know, showed up at the SMU last year. 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: Got the prerequisite size, like six thirty three inch armed, 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: all that, you know. 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he fits the bill. 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah later on pick later on guy, Yeah go go 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: ahod the idea that they're bringing in Stewart, if you 21 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: look at the first round guys in Stuart's one of those. Yeah. 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: I think the first round type prospects that they have 23 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: brought in, it's kind of run across the gamut, and 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: it got me to thinking today, I'm like, there's no 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 1: way that they're interested in all of these guys no, right, right, right, 26 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that somebody else won't be And 27 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: so you put that out there, you bring the guy 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: in for a visit, kind of put this funny. You 29 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: said the colonel out there that hey, maybe we'll take 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: this guy and you might get somebody to trade up 31 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: into that spot at twenty one. Who really wants this guy? 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: It's really funny he brought that up, because I was 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: thinking the same thing of the last twenty four hours, 34 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: but only through the quarterback lens. They if they aren't 35 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: going to take a quarterback at twenty one, they want 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: every quarterback they can can to fall in the top twenty. Right, 37 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: So if the Giants or Brown Brown's want Darter Sanders, 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: you want them to trade ahead of you to take, yeah, 39 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: because so that they fall so and oh, by the way, 40 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: you might be playing against that guy twice the year 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: in Cleveland, you know. And it's never a bad idea 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: to dude, due diligence on a quarterback, and maybe they 43 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: do love one of them. 44 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: Stuart kind of feels the same way. Yeah, I wonder 45 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: about Hampton. He's the only the only outside linebacker prospect 46 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: that they brought in. 47 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, and he's bigger than the typical Steeler guys, 48 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: and they could sell it that they think he's a 49 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: three four end when it's all said and done, or 50 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: he's Leal or somebody like this. 51 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: He's an outside Linebacker's how he was described. 52 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: Okay, and for the press release there's no press release. 53 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they view him as an outside linebacker, which 54 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: is what he is. And I look at the same 55 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: way with bringing in Matthew Golden. Yeah, I look at 56 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: Stuart similar maybe cornerbacks, right, you know, like I can't 57 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: see them taking some of these guys in the first round, 58 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: but you put that out there and think, well, maybe 59 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: there is another one. 60 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: That's a perfect example. 61 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, some of these somebody who might want to get 62 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: one of those guys starts looking at it, going maybe 63 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: the Steelers will take him. We might want to trade up. 64 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: And the whole goal is to get them drafted before 65 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: twenty one, or to get somebody thinking you're gonna take 66 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: them at twenty one, so they think, okay, we're gonna 67 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: we're gonna trade up to twenty one to take them. 68 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: And Steay yah, yeah, yeah, I've been thinking the same 69 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: thing all along because a lot of their visits didn't 70 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: add up. And I'll be honest, i've been Business Mornings. 71 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: That's the first I've heard Stuart. And then he said that, 72 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: I'm like Mike, but I've been thinking about this quarterback situation. 73 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: They want guys to go ahead of them. Yeah, I 74 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: very much think that's the case. 75 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: I think it's, you know, just playing a little poker here. Yeah, yeah, 76 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: and you know, put in what's what's his hand? I 77 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what the hand is. He's 78 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: been a lot of weird moves here, like he's got 79 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: a good hand, But does he you know? And maybe 80 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: you and I are off base with their detackled love. Maybe, 81 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: but I don't think so. I bet not. 82 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: I kind of trust us to know these things. And 83 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: how would we build a team. What do they truly need? 84 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: And they haven't been in right harmon Harmon was okay. 85 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: And that doesn't exactly show your hand either. I mean, 86 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: it doesn't mean you have to take him. 87 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: It's all the guys who you think might be in 88 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: that fifteen to twenty five rings and it's such a 89 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: gray draft too. 90 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, well, if they're interested, and maybe I 91 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: could do have to move up three spots to get 92 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: the guy or whatever. I was saying the same thing, 93 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: but just with the quarterbacks. But Emuari Stuart, I don't 94 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 3: know how they could take them at twenty one, right, 95 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: you know, especially that second round pick. 96 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: But somebody else might look at him go well, I 97 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: really like the traits, so I better go get him. 98 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: If I want him, I got to go get him. 99 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,559 Speaker 3: Then again, I think they want those dudes to fall 100 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: before twenty one or have someone make them an offer 101 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: a twenty one yeah, which all that adds up. 102 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I've seen some stuff lately where some speculation 103 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: regarding this draft is that you could see more movement 104 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: because teams are gonna have everybody's gonna have these guys 105 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: great a difference. 106 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And so maybe someone's just standing out 107 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 3: on your board after people are going like he's way 108 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: better than everybody. 109 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: The speculation and the way we feel about it as well, 110 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: is that you know that top five is the top five, 111 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: and then there's maybe twelve guys that are true blue 112 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: chipper first rounds. That's how teams view it there. 113 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not even sure four and five are blue chippers, right. 114 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I think if you're the Patriots, 115 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: Like so I was kiding this round on a podcast 116 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 3: today too, Like, if you're the Giants at three and 117 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: Hunter and Ward are gone, Carter is the best player, 118 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: But do you really want to trade Thibodeau on you know, 119 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 3: cents on the dollar, or if you really want a quarterback, 120 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: could you convince Carolina to come to three or and 121 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: then take your quarterback there at eight or nine, or 122 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: the Bears or the Niners or a team like that 123 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: to go get Carter. That wouldn't change the Steelers out 124 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: look much, but I think you'd want I personally would 125 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: want a quarterback to fall before twenty, you know, or 126 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: in the top twenty. 127 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: It makes me think maybe we should do a mock 128 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: draft where we make all the picks for the teams 129 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: and we entertain all the trade offers that go along 130 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: with that, because I think there could be some extreme movement. Yeah. 131 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 3: I mean, the more we get, the closer we get 132 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: the I originally thought it's gonna be kind of a 133 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 3: boring draft, but I don't know that it will. 134 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: And I think the Giants and. 135 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: Browns hold such huge keys if they're going to try 136 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: to pick their guy and then come back for the quarterback, right, 137 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: what are they willing? 138 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,239 Speaker 1: And to that point, there are certain positions that are loaded. 139 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: There are other positions that aren't right, and so it's 140 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: gonna maybe put more of a premium on some of 141 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: those guys. Maybe Amori is so much high rated, so 142 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: much higher than the rest of the strong safety prospects 143 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: and he's clean or whose State guy or something like that. 144 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 3: That Miami has a huge say, yeah, you know, there's 145 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: only two that they want and one goes all of 146 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: a sudden, Well, maybe we need to get aggressive and more. 147 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: We have Ami way higher than everybody else. I mean, 148 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: if you're a testing team you like him. Yeah, Yeah, 149 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: I mean I think that that is all interesting. And 150 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: again I really thought that way with not that they 151 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: should not have or Sanders in, but I mean it's 152 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: they definitely should and should consider them at twenty one. Yeah, 153 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: but you definitely want the world to know or to 154 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: think that you love them. 155 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. They've essentially now outside of of cam Ward, have 156 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: you either met with or been. 157 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: At the pro day of They've showed a pretty blatant 158 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: interest of all the guys. 159 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: The quarterbacks in this draft. Yeah, that are that are 160 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: going to be draftable. That's not an accident. 161 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: That's not an accident because they probably are considering drafting 162 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: one of them and. 163 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: They then they probably I mean, you're going to take 164 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: four to camp. 165 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: There's definitely been additions to this. 166 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: So you're going to bring a young quarterback to camp, 167 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: right right, whether that's a draft pick or whether that's 168 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: a you know, undrafted free agent. 169 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: Are you willing to spend it on which guys? And again, 170 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: I think it depends on I don't. I think you're 171 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: trying to cover your tracks a little bit here too, 172 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: and that's a good way of doing it. Yeah, I 173 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: just I just see it. 174 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: Just I was thinking about it today when when you 175 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: know Stewart was one of the visits, I'm like, they're 176 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: not taking an outsideline, no way first. 177 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: Rounds and not think of safety either, right, I mean 178 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: it's just not I'm not sure on running back, you know, 179 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not sure on receiver. 180 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: I mean it'd be a tough receiver, would be. You 181 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: kind of understand people who still have them taking a 182 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: receiver and that has that's not as prevalent as you 183 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: to know you spent your second round draft pick was 184 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: spent on a. 185 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: Receiver receiver, right, I mean, Pickings would almost have to 186 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 3: go for it to makes sense. 187 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's the plan either, you know, 188 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: I don't think it is, right. 189 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: So I again, I was kind of thinking the same 190 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 3: thing that there was some cat and mouse stuff going 191 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: on here. And even like in mcshay's draft we went 192 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: over yesterday, he have them taken Nayari And one of 193 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: his logics was this team in the first round usually 194 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: draft somebody that's in their building. Well, maybe people, I mean, 195 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: maybe they realize, well, if I start bringing in different 196 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: people in my building, will be a little less transparent. 197 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, And and and in recent maybe I 198 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: know enough about Nolan or whatever, you know, in recent years, 199 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: they I mean, they didn't hide their love for Nausee Harris. 200 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: They didn't hide that they were, you know, in the 201 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: in the quarterback market in twenty one, right, right, I 202 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: should say they they had looked at all those guys, 203 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: well they're taking a quarterback, and you know. 204 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: They're definitely not hiding their quarterback interest, right interest. 205 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, unlike unlike that that year was 206 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: like five guys that they were, you know, the five 207 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: guys who were considered the top five the least year. 208 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: They've they've covered the gamut. Yeah, they've they've looked at 209 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: them all. But I just said interest in taking action 210 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: or two different things. You know, I'm interested. I want 211 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: to learn quarterbacks in particular. I know, I went there 212 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: scouting report to be vast, you know, because we are 213 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: going to play against them. Is there something I don't 214 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: know about them that puts them over the edge that 215 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: I do want them or I just want in the 216 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: world to think I want a quarterback. I just think 217 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: one of the things that Mike Tomlin always talks about 218 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: is being thoughtfully non rhythmic. 219 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 220 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And for those two years, they weren't very thoughtfully. 221 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 3: No, they were pretty rhythmic and pretty easy to figure out. 222 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: You know. This year it seems like they're they're saying, Okay, 223 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: we've done this the last few years, last year, the 224 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: last couple of years. But well they're you know, they're 225 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: very interested in the offensive tackles. That was no, that's 226 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: no secret exactly. Now it's like, okay, what are the 227 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: Steelers taking? You see it all over the quarterback We 228 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: saw I mean, wari we've seen wide receivers. We've seen 229 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: cornerbacks in the first round. 230 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I won't say. It doesn't even make them look bad. 231 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 3: But he texted me yesterday he's a friend of the 232 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: show and he's kind of a national dude, and asked, 233 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: what do you think the Steelers are doing at twenty one? 234 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: You know, and a real chance it's a quarterback. And 235 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, but it's gonna be a defensive tackle. He's like, 236 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: and he wrote back, It's like, oh, that adds up 237 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: so much. It wasn't as transparent to me because I'm 238 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 3: not so close to the team and I don't know 239 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 3: it's one hundred percent could be defensive tackle. But it 240 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: didn't take any convincing. When I wrote DT back to 241 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: him in attacks, He's like, Yep, that makes all of 242 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: sense in the world. That's who the team is. 243 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: That's what's the sweet spot in the draft. 244 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 3: And it was good to hear from an outsider like, yeah, 245 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: you're not You guys aren't crazy doing that over and over? 246 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: You know, No, and again, if you look at the 247 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: roster right where's the hole? 248 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: Where could you not? 249 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: Yes, quarterback is sort of a hole right. 250 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 3: Now, and I can't fit with a third round pick. 251 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 3: I mean I can add to it, I can put 252 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: some dirt in that hole, but it's not going to ye. 253 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: Assuming Aaron Rodgers signs, then it's not a hole, right right, right, 254 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: But you still have a whole defensive end or defensive whichever, 255 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: one of the defensive. 256 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: Linemen of some sort a prominent member in that room 257 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: if not to. 258 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking on our lads the other day 259 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: and like they have Isaiah louder Milk listed as a 260 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: Steeler starter is end. Would anybody and that's no offense 261 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: to Isaiah would exact be happy if Isaiah louder Milk 262 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: open the season is starting defensive end. 263 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: No, and Cam Heyward misses a week or two, that 264 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 3: was like, oh no, yeah right, it's a disaster if 265 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: I maybe this is something we should do between now 266 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: and the draft too. Kind of like our twenty one list. 267 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: If I were ranking needs, DT one would be number one, 268 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: d T two might be number two. 269 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, why we've taken two and a lot 270 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: of right, you know, and maybe it's a true nose 271 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: tackle right right, you know, but you want to get both. 272 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: Ideally could get that one player, but I think you 273 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: still want to take another guy who's a depth piece. 274 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: I do too. I mean, I think even if I 275 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 3: have Nolan or Harmon or whoever, I'm going to have 276 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: a hard time to turning down another defensive tackle. I 277 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: like a lot for a running back, a developmental quarterback. 278 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a coord type or something like that, 279 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: and certainly anything else on defense. 280 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just think that's the way this 281 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: whole thing aligns. And it just seems to me that 282 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: the Steelers are being very thoughtfully non rhythm Yeah. Visits, Yeah, Yeah, 283 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: it's all over the place. 284 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: You can try to read what we're doing, but there's 285 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: a lot of smoke here. 286 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 287 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: I tend to say the same thing. It's funny you 288 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 3: brought that up because I thought I thought I was 289 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: gonna bring that on you from the quarterback perspective. Not 290 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: that they dislike Sanders or Dart or any of those guys, 291 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 3: but I think you want the world to think you 292 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: want them. 293 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and again when you've when you've been 294 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: so transparent with your with what you've done the last 295 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: few years, now you switch it up a little bit, 296 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: and that's you know, yeah, zigging when everybody else is 297 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: zagging and Steelers want Wait a second, they brought in 298 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: like six first round guys, but they're all different position. 299 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 3: They're all different, right you any direction, they're a wild 300 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: card where they're me mother, we're taking and we don't 301 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: want to be that, you know, stucking stone, but they're 302 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: taking defense bag. Yeah, and maybe I mean even taking 303 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: a step further. Maybe you could make a push a 304 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: division rival Cleveland to spend more than they should to 305 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: get Sanders or dart or something like that. 306 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, drafts where there's where they're a bunch of picks 307 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: to go up and get a quarterback all the way eighteen. 308 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 3: You can't do it at twenty five, Cleveland, you better 309 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: act out get ahead of the Steelers. 310 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: Got to get ahead of Steelers. 311 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 3: So now you're short other resources. Yeah, it's it's the flat. 312 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: Maybe this isn't the segment, but the Flacco signing is 313 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 3: a little weird to me too. 314 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: That doesn't move the need of it all from me. Well, 315 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: I just wonder how it affects Cousins. I thought's for 316 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: sure it would be cousins pickings and a pick. I 317 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: think it takes them out of the Cousins market. 318 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: I think it absolutely does. 319 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and all of a sudden, his market is where 320 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: do they just hang on to him and wait for 321 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: somebody camp or something like that, or they hope for 322 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: a Sam Bradford deal. 323 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: Or is Aaron Rodgers going to retire and Cousins coming here? 324 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: I mean that crossed my mind, you know, like, now 325 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: what happens to Kirk? Or is he just going to 326 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: be the falcons backup for the year. The bron just 327 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: wanted to take the bird in hand. They Hey, we've 328 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: had We've had Joe in the building. Yeah, you know, 329 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 3: he knows the offense. It's not going to be I mean, 330 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: I would prefer cousins if I were them, but maybe 331 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 3: the Falcons aren't moving them or I don't know. I 332 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: thought that was an odd move to happen today. 333 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I just think they wanted to get that 334 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: out of the way and they could still draft one. 335 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: I mean, they only have two quarterbacks on the roster right. 336 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 3: Them and the Giants are really similar. I mean, I 337 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 3: don't think their quarterback rooms are all that different, and 338 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: they both could still pick one. 339 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. So anyways, let's get to a break. He is 340 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lollie, You're listening to 341 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and 342 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: I will be back with more right after this. 343 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 344 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the 345 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 346 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: And we are back Guy and Dale Lolly. He is 347 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and we forgot to do the Twitter questions. 348 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they've been rolling the ex. 349 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: Twitter immediately I put the thing out today. And what 350 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: is Twitter? Why do you insist on calling it Twitter 351 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: when it's ext it's Twitter. It's like calling I'm gonna 352 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: go get something xeroxed. 353 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 3: I still call it Twitter? 354 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: Do you know? It's just what what you do? I mean, 355 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: there's still people that won't call Actucer Stadium acrocur Stadium 356 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: right right right. 357 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: I almost said that. I'm like, I'll get in trouble 358 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: if I say that. But it's. 359 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: So I put the pull out or the questions out earlier. 360 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: Batagm when people come around the bad signal out there. 361 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: So we got some questions here. Let's roll through some 362 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: of these here in the first hour. If Aaron Rodgers 363 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: doesn't sign in Sanders and Harmon slash Nolan are both there. 364 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: Who do you think Tomlin pushes for? And if he 365 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: does do the wrong choice and take Sanders, I wonder 366 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: who this person ones. Do you think the Steelers should 367 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: trade future picks to get back to Nolan or Harmon. 368 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: That's why I think you take the d tackle and 369 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: you trade back to get a Millrow or a Shock 370 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: or something like that. Yeah, I don't know. If Rogers 371 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 3: doesn't sign, I think they'll be heavily in on Cousins 372 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: or car. 373 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: I think they know. I think they know what's going 374 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: to happen. They know right, even though it's not leaked. No, 375 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: the Steelers aren't a leak organization. Some organizations are right right, 376 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: but they are not. And you know, I don't think 377 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: that scenario is going to happen. I think somebody will 378 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: have taken Sanders by pick twenty one. 379 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 3: I think that as well. I think there's a really 380 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 3: good chance Starts gone by twenty one by the sound 381 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 3: of things too, which again I hope happens. To be 382 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: very honest with you, partially because I don't want I 383 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: also don't want all the naysayers three years from now, 384 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 3: when one of them ends up being a good quarterback, Williamson, 385 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: you were stupid. You should take them a twenty one, 386 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 3: which be the case. I actually do root for them. 387 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 3: I want them to be fine, but I think it's 388 00:17:54,200 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: some veteran, probably Rogers Rudolph, probably a late pick, you know, 389 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: I mean in a de tackle at round one. 390 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: When evaluating the defensive tackles, how much do you factor 391 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: in the unit as a whole. For example, Grant, Harmon 392 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: and Nolan were all part of stacked defensive fronts, and 393 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: we're never the guy facing double teams. Also, do recent 394 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: Michigan bus Jenkins Maze Smith affect opinion on Grant, Well, 395 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: first of all, I don't know. It's still probably too 396 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: early to call Jenkins a maze Smith A, Yeah, it's definitely. 397 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: Frankins played one year and I think he. 398 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: Had some injuries last year, and he's gonna be a 399 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: starter for them this year, so let's see. I hadn't 400 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 3: realized this though. They've never had a defensive tackle in 401 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: my lifetime that's been a good, high quality player from Michigan. 402 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 3: I don't put too much into that. 403 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: I don't either because people used to say, well, there's 404 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: big twelve quarterbacks never hit Hello Patrick the Big ten quarterbacks, 405 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: they don't work right by Tom Brady. 406 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 3: Right in Penn State as that thing going, and Hi 407 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: State had it forever too. Yeah maybe, I mean so, 408 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 3: I don't look too much into that, but I do 409 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: find it odd. As great as Michigan football has been 410 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 3: for our lifetime, there's not a prominent defensive tackle in 411 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: the league. It's had a good career. As for the stack, 412 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 3: that's a great question. 413 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: It's it's been a question for years about Alabama and 414 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: Georgia players. 415 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, the best d lineman go to a 416 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: handful of schools. 417 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just the reality of it, you know. So 418 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: I look at it. We have tape of Harmon, for example, 419 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: playing somewhere else. We have tape of Nolan playing some 420 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: and Nolan's. 421 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 3: Nolan played good players too in A and M. 422 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: You know Nolan. Yeah, I look at Nolan and say, well, 423 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: he went from Texas A and M, which had the 424 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: number one defensive line class in the nation that year, 425 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: and he was number one, was part of it. He 426 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: went to Mississippi. You're telling me he didn't get doubled 427 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: at Mississippi. 428 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 3: Of course, But I do think you have to watch 429 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: the tape and realize, you know, if we were truly 430 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 3: doing this as a a scouting staff in the league, 431 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 3: you'd watch every one of their snaps right and be like, well, 432 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: how's he hold up against doubles? He doesn't get doubled 433 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: nearly as much someone like CJ. Weston Indiana is the 434 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 3: only show in town. Yeah, his job's harder, you know, Alexander, 435 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: he's not playing against as good as O lines guys 436 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: like that. But you definitely have to factor it is. 437 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 3: You look at it, right, and there's no question. Yeah, 438 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: it's definitely a factor. Those guys have edge dudes that 439 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: the backs are helping or you. 440 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: Know, so here's a question. Steelers thirty visits are often, 441 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: but not always, indicators of the team's interest in a place. Yeah, yes, 442 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: can you break down all confirm players by position if 443 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: you think the player is a good fit and if so, 444 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: roughly what round would the Steelers would target them? Well, 445 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: we're not going to do that now because they've still 446 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: got more visits. Yeah yeah, I mean they're only like 447 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: twenty three. 448 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 3: Now and we've brought up a bunch of them. 449 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, as they've as they've come through, and we. 450 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: Also kind of addressed this in the first segment that 451 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 3: I think a lot of these first rounders are not 452 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 3: going to be considered it twenty one. 453 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think so either. 454 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 3: Have been in. 455 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: Steelers are doing a lot of homework on quarterbacks. Have you, gentlemen, 456 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: tried a mock draft that prioritizes selecting quarterbacks in round 457 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: one and two, assuming a slight trade down in round one. 458 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: We've done it a lot, we have, but we haven't. Moment. 459 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 3: You and I don't jump on Dart at twenty one. 460 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: No, no, because we just don't. We don't like that 461 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: player at that spot. 462 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like that pick. Yeah, I mean we 463 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: could try it one time, force ourselves to take Dart 464 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 3: at twenty one. 465 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: Pretty. 466 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: The rest won't be nice. 467 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: The rest is not pretty. Yeah, they really won't. I mean, 468 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: we've done this basically the same thing by taking a 469 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: running back at times in the first round, and it's 470 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: not It just doesn't work out as well, it doesn't. 471 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 3: I mean, the path of least resistance or best results 472 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 3: always starts to tackle. 473 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: If the team trades back or somehow gets another Day 474 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: two pick, is there a position to look at or 475 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: just best available? Well, I think if you're trading to 476 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: get another Day two pick. I think you like one 477 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: of those running backs, or there's a defensive lineman there 478 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: that you got to have, or you want to get 479 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: a quarterback. 480 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean where they have six picks as we speak, 481 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 3: they probably at most will get the seven. I mean, 482 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to get eight or nine 483 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 3: and one or two of those late rounders. I'm not 484 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 3: going to prioritize for a specific spot. No, so you 485 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 3: probably end up with four or five picks where you're 486 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: looking at it, of these are where they're going to go. 487 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: At least one's going to be D line, at least 488 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: one's going to be running back. A second D line 489 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 3: I think is absolutely possible. An no linement of some sort. 490 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: We've taken cornerbacks, Yeah, I say a corner or receiver 491 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: is a maybe you know, and then I don't see receiver. 492 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 3: You don't think they'd pick one period? I don't think so, Yeah, surprise. 493 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: Me not high. Any updates on Cameron Johnston's rehab. Will 494 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: there be a battle at the punter position or is 495 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: it his to lose if he's healthy? Well, I've seen 496 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: Cameron Johnston a lot around the facility. H he is healthy. 497 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin was asked about that at the at the 498 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: meetings two weeks ago now and said he's healthy as well. 499 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: It's Cameron Johnston's job. 500 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's phenomenal. Yeah, and Weightman did really well. It 501 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: was nicer than you could expect. But Johnston's better. Yeah, 502 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: he's under contract. He was signed for a reason. He 503 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: looked great before the injury. He was super impressive at camp. 504 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: I think he upgraded a punter too. I mean, we 505 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: often talked about last year's rookie class coming in even 506 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 3: get anything out of Well, you also have a semi 507 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: close to a Pro Bowl punter coming back, you know, right? 508 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? R J. Porio says, not a question. But I 509 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: love the show. Haven't missed the show in legitimately two years. 510 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for all the great insight and honest opinions on 511 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: the team here. That's awesome. 512 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 513 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciated that. Me exclamation point. Are Ian's comfortable 514 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: with Mason being quarterback? One with a vet like Flacco 515 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: or Wentz? Is the backup? Both of those guys are signed, 516 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: are they not? Now? 517 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 3: I'm not sure about Wentz? 518 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: Black signed today? Uh? 519 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, No for me. 520 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: No, I'm not comfortable with that at all. We have 521 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: enough talent to have a top five offensive line this year. 522 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: Top five is pretty lofty, I would say lofty. Probably 523 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: not if you can get into the top twelve, you know, 524 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: ten to twelve okay yeah yeah yeah. And finally, best 525 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: Sheets mto item. 526 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 3: I don't hit there enough. 527 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: I stop at Sheets every day because they just built 528 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: one down the road from my house on my way here. 529 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 3: But you're not getting Sammy so not. 530 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 1: Usually if if I get something in the morning on 531 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: my way to the facility, I'll get like a cream 532 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: cheeste bagel. 533 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: I mean bit Johnstown that we'd run the sheets. Yeah, 534 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 3: that was a late night thing, very good campus, a 535 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 3: ton of stuff to pick from either. 536 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't like it is now. 537 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 3: Right, and that was like revolutionary for the day. Yeah, 538 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 3: I remember. There's a guy that I'm open to suggestions though, 539 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 3: if anyone wants to say, try this at sheets, I'll try. 540 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: Guy that I worked with in Washington, Mark Lazarus. I 541 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: think he works for the Chicago Sun Times now covers 542 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: the Blackhawks, and he moved here from New York to 543 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: come work at the Observer Reporter and I kept telling 544 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: him like, look, you got to stop at sheets and 545 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: get the mt O. I can't. It's gas station food. 546 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not gas station food. And then after 547 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: about four or five months, when me telling it kept 548 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: telling him that he had to stop at chet, he 549 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: finally stopped at the sheets. Now when he comes back 550 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh to visit, he goes to Sheets specifically every 551 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: single time. 552 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 3: We're a commercial here for Sheets fan, I like all 553 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: those you know, now you travel more than I do. 554 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, gas station food has come along. 555 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: With you're not gas station hitting the button and then 556 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: opening the door, right Sam, which has been in there. 557 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 3: For four the US. Right now there's actual good cold cuts, 558 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: et cetera. Open tell me your favorite Sheets orders. 559 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: I'll give a shot, Dan asked, since it gets mentioned 560 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: frequently per p PFF. The most likely trade down partners 561 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: of the Packers twenty three and eighty seven, the Texans 562 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: twenty five and seventy nine, the Bills at thirty and 563 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: fifty six, the Chiefs at thirty one, sixty three, and 564 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: sixty six at twenty one. One of the better wide 565 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: receivers or ots might be enticing enough, are your marks better? 566 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: When the Steelers trade down a so freaking lootly almost 567 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: always every time. 568 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean because of the extra pick, but you 569 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 3: often get your dude in a trade down too that 570 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 3: you would have taken. However, I'm leaning towards I like 571 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: all three of those defensive tackles, there's no question. But 572 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 3: I think just in the last forty eight hours or so, 573 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: I think Grants might clear third, just because I think 574 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 3: the Bill doesn't go quite as well. And I know 575 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: he's not a true nose, but I like him a lot. 576 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 3: Those other guys just influenced the passing game more now, 577 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 3: you know, as a situational pass rusher in twenty twenty 578 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 3: five contribution, I think ideally, and it would worry me 579 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 3: if Nolan has already gone. 580 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: A city is an interesting one, and I mentioned yesterday 581 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: the Chiefs potentially taking a tight end in the first 582 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: round and taking the third tight end the yeah yah round. 583 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 3: But what if they can get Loveland. 584 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, what if Colston Loveland is there and they've got 585 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: those two they got to pick sixty three and sixty 586 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: six and they say, you know what, we want to 587 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: get in before the Chargers get them, keep them out 588 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: of the division. That would add up, we're going trade 589 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: up with the Steelers, get Colston Loveland. Yeah. 590 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: Away from the Chargers, you move back ten spots, You 591 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 3: move back ten, get the second if not more. 592 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: You're getting in one of those second round but draft picks. 593 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: Whether it's sixty three or sixty six, I don't care 594 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: which one. And I'm still going to get potentially who 595 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to get at twenty one, and I get 596 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: that second round draft pick. 597 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: I throw one other team at you too, because no 598 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,959 Speaker 3: one's really talking about the Lions. We always just kind 599 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 3: of brush over their pick when we do a mock draft. 600 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: That's usually on edge. Sometimes it's a guard or whatever. 601 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: But they're a really aggressive organization. They have quite the 602 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 3: history of trading up with this regime. And if the 603 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 3: edge rushers start going and there's one they love, or 604 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 3: maybe it's a Connerly or I keep thinking about Simmons. 605 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 3: The Ohio State. 606 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: Tak is a wild card in this STrenD. 607 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, because Decker's up in age he did and you 608 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: get a franchise left tackle. 609 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: Simmons did position workouts at the Ohio State Pro. 610 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: Date, so he's back doing stuff. 611 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a question of is he going to 612 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: be ready for the regular season or will he be 613 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: ready for training camp? 614 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, because I'm sure the Lions the way they're 615 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: built in their philosophy is they want to keep a 616 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 3: strength of strength on the O line. And maybe that's 617 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 3: just not sitting there waiting at the end of the 618 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 3: first round. 619 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: But the Chiefs to me or the want to make 620 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: it great chiefs are one. Because they have those two 621 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: second round picks. Could they move thirty one and say 622 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: sixty six knowing that they still have sixty three or 623 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: vice versa, Yeah, or something, say hey, we're still going 624 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: to have a second round draft pick. We're going to 625 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: go get the guy that we want, guy that we need. Yeah, 626 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: we really the big time dude. Yeah, that's a great one. 627 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: Some other trade downs or Minnesota and Atlanta though they 628 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 3: need picks. Yeah, they're the ones that need pick. 629 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. During the Josiah Jones asked during the Aaron Rodgers visit, 630 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: does anybody know if he tried to super Steelers soon? 631 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: I saw that one. I haven't been told he's crazy 632 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: not to. 633 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: On Tuesday and they had the beef Barley, which is 634 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: my personal face. That's your number one, Huh. It's good. 635 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: They make a great beef barley soup. Tyler, do you 636 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: have a favorite? 637 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 3: The Steeler soup, Super Steel soup, Oh, the super legendary. 638 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: You're missing it. 639 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 3: You may not have been around, but I went on 640 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: my Supersteero super rant. It's gonna they're gonna sell it 641 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 3: all over and supply they. 642 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: Do a lot of good soups, right, you know. And 643 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: then Mike Pursuit they also had the stuffed pepper, and 644 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: Pursued is a huge fan of that, so he had 645 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: the stuffed pepper and as I was eating, they're. 646 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: High on both of your lists. I didn't. I didn't 647 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: sup it up. 648 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: This to the wedding. Great clam chowders great, All the 649 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: chowders are the bisks, all that stuff. The bisc is unbelievable. 650 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: It's like being in a five star restaurant with their soups. 651 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: So my answer to the question is he must not 652 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: have or he would have signed by now that's true. 653 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: Or maybe he's not a soup guy. I don't know. 654 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: Maybe super Steero Soup, the Supersteeos eat, the Benefiting Pittsburgh 655 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 3: Suit Kitchen, make it happen to you. 656 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: Oh, Michael Odessos, if when Rogers assigned, who's going to 657 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: be his short yardage slash underneath? Guy love DK and Pickens. 658 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: But it's not their strength, Nor is Calvin. Nor is 659 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: it Calvin Austin's seems like a lot of trust put 660 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: on Roman Wilson. Is there a free agent to bring 661 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: in or maybe a wide receiver like Estrepo? How much 662 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: tight ends? 663 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: I say, I'm screaming for Friarmoth. 664 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: Friar mooth, and I think that's the kind of receiver 665 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: that Wilson is. 666 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. I also, especially once Rogers signs in the draft goes, 667 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 3: I might just call keenan Allen, maybe, what do you 668 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 3: want on a one year deal? You know, you're a 669 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 3: lot different than the dus we have, You're a veteran, 670 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: Come play with Rogers. 671 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: Guys are both cow guys, even though at the same time, 672 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it'd be expensive. He doesn't play a 673 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: ton of snaps, so not in three receiver sets a lot, 674 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: but dude runs routes. Yeah, we'll get to one more 675 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: here before we get to the break. What's your guys 676 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: draft coverage schedule look like for the actual draft? Well, 677 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: we're at the Steelers facility we're over at the up 678 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: MC Sports Complex, and largely we are on the radio 679 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: the entire time. I am on, although I have to 680 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: I have some writing duties that I got to do 681 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: in things of that nature. How these guys fit with 682 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: the team that will go up on Steelers dot Com. 683 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: But we'll be on there. Mike Pursudo will be on there. 684 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: Jerry Duleck will be on there. Rank Rob Kings on 685 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: the schedule for this year. 686 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 3: I don't know the schedule like the back of my hand, 687 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 3: and I don't know the hours we start. Yeah, but 688 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 3: if there's coverage, I will be on the air. 689 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: West Rulers uh there with us. Tom Offerman's coming down 690 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: for some for some stuff. 691 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 3: Now we'll have it covered. 692 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: Max Starks is going to be in Green Bay. Oh 693 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: is it going stuff for I believe ESPN. I wonder 694 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: if he'll remotely join us here and there. 695 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 3: Probably not. 696 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: If he's going to be on the air the entire time, 697 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't. Oh, okay, he's not part of our coverage. 698 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: But agree, I got you, I don't. We were talking 699 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: about that at the when we were at the meetings, 700 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: like a couple of weeks ago, and I'm like Max, 701 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: I don't envy you having to go to Green Bay 702 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: for the draft for this weekend, right like that, the 703 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: population of Green Bay is going to swell by three times. 704 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, people renting out their kids bed there are not 705 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 3: enough rooms, the tents and pop up trailers and stuff 706 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 3: like that. 707 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: People are going to be staying all over the place. Yeah, 708 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: it's going to be nuts. 709 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, we will have you guys covered like crazy. 710 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I'm tuned into the usually don't miss 711 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: a minute. You can either listen through Steelers Nation Radio. 712 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: You can listen on the app. You can also listen 713 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: on the you know through iHeart on the nine to 714 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: seventy Fox Sports Pittsburgh as well. But we have wald 715 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: to wall draft coverage, talk about every pick, make our 716 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: picks as they're coming up, who we would take in 717 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: those situations. So, yeah, break it all down, break it 718 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: all down. We even get we get players who come in, 719 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: we get coaches that, you know, after they make the pick, 720 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: they come and sit down with us. 721 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 3: With us or you know, even coordinators or coach Donlin 722 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 3: or whoever. We've had mister Rooney on during the draft. 723 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: We've had Joey Porter the day after he got picks 724 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: comes in joy at. 725 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: A lot of the players come in and sit down 726 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: with where they'll call in immediately after making a pick, 727 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: which did lead to some like when they took Bud 728 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: Dupree in the first round back in twenty fifteen. I 729 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: think it was twenty fifteen. They'll run together now, but maybe, yeah, 730 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: I think it was. And I was talking about how 731 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: I didn't like the pick because I didn't like his 732 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: instincts at the Thomas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is not 733 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: a day. Remember this is going to help you right away. 734 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: This he's a developmental player in the first round. 735 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 3: It took him a while. 736 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: We get to think, oh, he's on the phone right now, 737 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: and I'm. 738 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 3: Like, okay, you know, but welcome. 739 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably listening to me going this diet tribe values. 740 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 3: And that's not the great pick it turned out. 741 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: I mean, not that it wasn't a good pick, but 742 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: I said it was going to take time for him 743 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: to develop into what they needed him to be in 744 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: that project. That turned out to be the case. It 745 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: was absolutely which kind of like Samar Stewart to be honest. 746 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some similarities there too. Yeah, I mean Stewart 747 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 3: doesn't make many plays in the run game, right, I mean, 748 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 3: it's not like this sack. Only his run stuff so 749 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: questionable too. 750 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, but let's get to a break. We'll get back 751 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: to more questions when we return. He is Matt Williamson. 752 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: I am Dale LOLLI. You're listening to the Drive here 753 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: on the Steelers Audio Network. 754 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 2: Least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 755 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 2: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 756 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: and Gold car Steelers Nation Radio. 757 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly here with the 758 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and we're rolling through some of my questions 759 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,959 Speaker 1: here on the next Twitter and Dakota Smith asked, would 760 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: you trade into the top ten to draft Sanders? If so, 761 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: what would that cost? And I would not do that. 762 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 3: I wouldn't think you can consider. 763 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: It largely, not just because I don't think he's a 764 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: top ten player. If you identify him as the quarterback, 765 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: that's fine, But to move into the top ten from 766 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: where they're at now, from twenty one and you don't 767 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: have a second round pick already, right right, you're trading 768 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: future picks, probably your future one. 769 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 3: I'd say, probably a future one, or a bevy of 770 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 3: you know your three this year, two. 771 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: Next year. 772 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 3: Right, I absolutely would not. Now, I am a huge believer. 773 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 3: If there's one you adore, it doesn't matter what the 774 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 3: cost is, right, No one cared what the Chiefs paid 775 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 3: to get my homes, you know, I mean, or the 776 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: Buffalo traded up to get Alan. I just don't see 777 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 3: that in this draft. 778 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see that kind of Yeah talent there. 779 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I have a hard enough time taking them. 780 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: At twenty one, Joe Marcusik asks, you guys are my 781 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: favorite Steelers podcast? Well, thank you for that. Nice What 782 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: do you think of TJ wats Instagram post of him 783 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: in a Steelers uniform holding up two fingers like he's 784 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: saying peace. I think has more much to do about nothing. 785 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 1: But what say you? Well, I covered that in today's 786 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: five for Furday. At the end of the season, he 787 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: said he wants to retire, he wants to be part 788 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: of the solution here with the Steelers, wants a new 789 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: you know, he wants to be here. Just two weeks 790 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,959 Speaker 1: ago at the owners meetings, both Mike Tomlin and Omar conson, Yeah, 791 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 1: no question. So I do think it's much Nobody knows. 792 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: There were no there were no words there with the 793 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: instagram no, Right, it could have been any number of 794 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: things that he just put an Instagram post about. Right, 795 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 1: people try to read into things you. 796 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 3: Know better than me. But I think he's a man 797 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 3: of few words. Yeah, I mean to say the least. 798 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 3: And I heard some people say speculating they have a 799 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 3: second child on the way. 800 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it could be any number 801 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: of things, right, Yeah, you just don't know. And speculation 802 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: about well he wants a new contract, and it sparked 803 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Is he worth forty million dollars? You're 804 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: worth whatever somebody is willing to pay you. 805 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a going rate. 806 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 1: The cap is going rate going up like crazy, right, 807 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: and it's not your money that you know. Would you 808 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: pay TJ wat forty million dollars? That's a silly question 809 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: because how many people out there that you're asking that 810 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: question to have forty million dollars? Right? It really just 811 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: comes down to what percentage of the. 812 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 3: Cap do you think he's worth? 813 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: That's the big thing, right, what percentage I bet is 814 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: his next contract will be a smaller percentage of the 815 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: cap than this one, right, because the CAP's going up 816 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: so cap has gone up incredibly. It's annie asked. If 817 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: Rogers decides not to sign or is still undecided, is 818 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 1: there any impact on the Steelers drafting a quarterback this year? Also, 819 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: if they give me an eight carret diamond ring and 820 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: a prenup, giving me everything, please let the Steelers know 821 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: that I am all in. She was listening yesterday, good stuff, 822 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: and we appreciate that. I think that they know what 823 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is going to do, and I don't think 824 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: it impacts necessarily what the Steelers do at quarterback this 825 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,240 Speaker 1: year in terms of the draft. They're going to probably 826 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: draft one at some point because they're going to have 827 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: a fourth quarterback in camp, you know. I just think 828 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: that they know what's going to go on with Rogers 829 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: here and they have a pretty good idea. 830 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 3: That's my hunch as well. And I don't think that 831 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 3: decision should change the way. I mean, you're great. 832 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: Still, you still view these guys right right. 833 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 3: It shouldn't change at all, whether no Ben walks through 834 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 3: those doors or mahomes or you have nothing, you know, 835 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it's still the grades of grade and are 836 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 3: they worth it? 837 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? Scotty p says, which of these two options. Do 838 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: you like better Jaln Milroe in the first round or 839 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: will Howard in the third round? Both are rich to me? Yeah, 840 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: I mean to me, Milroe might be the answer. 841 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 3: Howard to me is very Rudolph asked, a little bit 842 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 3: better Athleteward. 843 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: I have less of a problem with Howard in the 844 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: third round. I guess I don't love either because I 845 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: think you're only giving you know, you're you're talking about 846 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 1: the difference between you know, two mid round draft picks. 847 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 1: As oppose Jalen Milroe in the first round it picked 848 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: twenty one, right. 849 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 3: I think both are too rich. Yeah, and Howard doesn't 850 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 3: really blow my scart up either. To be honest with you, 851 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 3: I think he's a good player in the right system, 852 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 3: a facilitator, really good from the neck up. But I 853 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 3: think he's a Rudolph Lake. 854 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: I think he's a better athlete, better butter player. 855 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 3: But I bet that's his career path. 856 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: You know, Heshian says. With the Brown signing Flacco, and 857 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: my guess is drafting Milrow either at thirty three or 858 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: moving up a little. Kenny Pickett's head explode on the 859 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 1: thought of actually having to compete again. 860 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I mean the league. The league's telling us 861 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 3: what you think of Picket. I mean that they think 862 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 3: he's a two or you know, I would imagine Flacco's 863 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 3: the leader in the clubhouse to start over. 864 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: Him, thank you point, you know, I mean he started 865 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: games for them in the past, and they were. 866 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 3: Kenny frankly doesn't Mike most quarterbacks doesn't have any right 867 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 3: to complain. He's competing for a job, right, You're just. 868 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: Trying to at this point hold on, you know. Andrew 869 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: Quakowski asks, can you see TJ watch extension coming in 870 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: or above forty million dollars a year? Seems to be 871 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: the talk around the media, But don't know if that's 872 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: just agents speak, what speculation based on what Miles Garrett got, 873 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: ye and what Micah Parsons is going to get. 874 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 3: Parcels will get more than both, Yes, based on age. 875 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 3: I mean he's worth. 876 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: More, right, but that's you know, the going rate is 877 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: to go. 878 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's just the cost of doing business. It'll 879 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 3: be in that neighborhood, I'm sure. 880 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's going to be above 881 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: forty million dollars a year, but. 882 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 3: That was in that raunch. I would be in that range. 883 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 3: He's about the same age as Garrett. He's, you know, 884 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 3: the same level player. 885 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: That came out in the same draft, in the same draft. 886 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, So maybe it's structured different. You know, 887 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: where the money kicks in and where the bonus is 888 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 1: and all that. You know, yeah, there are bonuses that 889 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: push things different ways. 890 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 3: Where's the guaranteed money and all that, but it should 891 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 3: be in that neighborhood. He's one of the best players. 892 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: Like steel Warrior fifty five asked question to both, what's 893 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: your favorite Steeler's memory or moment. I'm gonna do us 894 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: a long time. M hmm, what's my favorite moment of 895 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: the last thirty three years? 896 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 3: Like mine is I was very young. I was like 897 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 3: seven or eight years old, and we were going to 898 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 3: Disneyland and for whatever reason, the Steelers were in the 899 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 3: terminal on their way to San Francisco and that was the. 900 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: Year that they were the only feet the Niners. 901 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 3: Yeh, yeah, this is like early early eighties, whatever sounds 902 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 3: about right. I've been ten or eleven in that neighborhood 903 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 3: and Jack Lambert was on crutches with his turf toe, 904 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 3: and I went up to him and asked him, we're 905 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 3: an autograph, and he said say please, and almost foot 906 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 3: myself and then he signed it and then he went 907 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 3: on a one. So that I'll go with that For 908 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 3: my favorite memory. 909 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with this one. So 910 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: it's my first training camp in ninety three and we're 911 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: standing out in front of the old dorms and at 912 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: that point, all the media, everybody, we all stayed in 913 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: that same dorm. So Mike Persuda, who was at that 914 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: time probably twenty six twenty seven years old, he was, 915 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 1: he's a few years older than me. Uh. The Steelers 916 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 1: had drafted three Michigan State guys Jim Miller and Pursuita 917 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: pulls up into in his Toyota Celica. It was a 918 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: nice Yeah, it was a convertible Toyota Celica, but it 919 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: was a Toyota Celica. Yeah, pulls up in front of 920 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: it in the front of the dorms to unload his stuff. 921 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: At that point, it was it was reporting day. He 922 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: starts unloading his stuff and his Pursuita will do He's 923 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 1: wearing all of his Michigan State gear, sure, which he does. 924 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 3: And one of the photographers was a long time ago, 925 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 3: A long time ago. Yeah, it's important note for the story. 926 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: One of the photographers who was there shooting for somebody 927 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 1: I don't even know, who might have been the Latrobe 928 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: bulletin or something like that, who doesn't cover the team 929 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: on a regular basis, runs out and starts shooting pictures 930 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: of pursuita unloading his stomach of his car because he 931 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: thought he was. 932 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 3: Jim Mller right, the next quarterback, right, And we. 933 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: Were all just chuckling about it, this pursuit of which 934 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: I had known Mike from before before I started covering 935 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: the team. We had a mutual friend and so we 936 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: had we'd had beers a couple of times before that. 937 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 3: But yeah, and I can't stress enough that this is 938 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 3: a long time ago to make the believability of this. 939 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: Back in the days when I was still mistaken for 940 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: a player, when I was walking Dound campus, you know, 941 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: they just people saw a young, somewhat fit you, right, yeah, 942 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: bigger kind of guy, and they said, you know, and 943 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: I know sometimes you know, take the photos of me 944 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: next to you and Max for example, that two weeks ago, 945 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: people well they al must be a little guy. No, 946 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm six one and one hundred and ninety five. Everybody 947 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: looks small, Max, but that that's one of my favorites. 948 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: That's a good one. Yeah, first one that you know. 949 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: I can also remember interviewing Jerome Bettis in front of 950 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: the same dorms and he's up against the wall with 951 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: his with looking out over the fields and the Blue 952 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: Angels came over. That's cool, and you couldn't hear them. 953 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: You saw them before you heard them, because they're they're moving. 954 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 3: It soon, you know, because they're moving so fast. 955 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: And they were doing a show at the La Trobe 956 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: at the Yeah, at the air. Yeah, they're coming in 957 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: information upside down, I believe, right at us like this. 958 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,240 Speaker 1: You couldn't hear him, and all of a sudden, Jerome's 959 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: eyes went boom because they're coming right at us. 960 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 3: That's a pretty cool memory. 961 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: And then you heard them as they went over. It's 962 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: like whoa. 963 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some Sharky's memories. I probably won't throw. 964 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: A few of those. Two. Yeah, that I'm not going 965 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: to mention on here. Carmstrong ass. Let me start by saying, 966 00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 1: I love the show and the insights you both offer. 967 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: You're both very knowledgeable and I don't miss a show. Well, 968 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: we appreciate that. With that said, can you please stop 969 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,439 Speaker 1: interrupting Matt? I dare you to listen to your shows 970 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: and count the number of times you interrupt him. I 971 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: think I interrupt you. It's funny because a lot of 972 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: people complain about both of us interrupting each other. 973 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 3: I've had a million co hosts, and you're still my 974 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 3: favorite of my podcasting radio career. And I always think 975 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 3: one of my bigness weaknesses I interrupt my my co 976 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 3: host too often. 977 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: We both I think it's just being excited. We do 978 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: so many shows together. It's just you know, and we 979 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: talk off the air and text each other just I 980 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of the same thoughts and me. 981 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 3: Just spit them out whenever we're ready. 982 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: I always try to make this and have done it 983 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: since the show started. Conversational. Yeah, Like Matt and I 984 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: are sitting at the bar talking. That's that's what we 985 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: do with the show. Ye. 986 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 3: So you know, I've got a lot of feedback along 987 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 3: those lines too. It's like you guys are just kind 988 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 3: of hanging out at Charky's. 989 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 1: You know, that's what the show is supposed to be about. Yeah. Yeah, 990 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: A lot of times we don't. I don't script anything out. 991 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: We just we just oh and talk like we would have, 992 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,240 Speaker 1: like we're having a normal conversation. Hi, guys, says Chris Maxwell. 993 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 1: If you had to rank the Steelers OC's starting from 994 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: Todd Haley until present, how would you rank them? In 995 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 1: my opinion, Haley is clearly number one, and it's not 996 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: even close. Arthur Smith is next to last, with him 997 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: barely ranking above Canada. Well, I disagree with that. 998 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 3: Canada would be last. 999 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean there's only. 1000 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 3: Been Fourner, Canada, Smith, Haley. Yeah, okay, I would probably 1001 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 3: go Haley, Smithner Canada. 1002 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: I think I would go the same way we have. 1003 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 3: One year of Judge Smith, they. 1004 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: Averaged almost five points a game more than what they are. 1005 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 1: I guess you could throw Eddie Faulkner and you know 1006 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 1: that as well, but they averaged almost five points more 1007 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: per game this past season than they had the previous season. 1008 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 3: I'd be a heck a lot better coordinator with Ben 1009 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 3: in his prime. Then that helps a lot too, with 1010 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 3: Duck Hodges too. Ab right, Yeah, a young Juju and 1011 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 3: Vi on Bell And I'm not avoiding the subject just 1012 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 3: to like be PC, but judging any assistant coach is 1013 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 3: really hard from even where we sit. Yeah, I mean, 1014 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 3: so much happens behind the walls. 1015 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: Matt to say the psycho a Cicco, I should say, 1016 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: asks excluding Rogers, as there one current free agent out 1017 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: there that each of you guys could think would still 1018 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 1: be a good signing for the Steelers. I think you've 1019 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 1: mentioned it with Keenan Allen. 1020 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, something I'd be interested in certainly be one that 1021 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 3: would be I've brought up JK. Dobbins a few times, Chubb. 1022 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a corner or a tight end or 1023 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,720 Speaker 3: somebody that's super cheap that's going to be hanging around 1024 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 3: that you might want to throw in a camp or 1025 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 3: maybe another offensive lineman. 1026 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: You know. He also says, keep up the great work 1027 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: into the trolls. Maybe you can challenge them to a 1028 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: spelling beat spelling contest. But you know, I get to 1029 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 1: what you're saying there. Matt Short Junior says, favorite thing 1030 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: about working together and least favorite thing about working together. 1031 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 3: I'm a fan of it. 1032 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we enjoy it. I mean Matt and I, 1033 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: even though we went to our same college, Matt and 1034 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,720 Speaker 1: I did not know each other no before we started 1035 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: doing the show together, and I consider Matt one of 1036 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 1: my good friends. Now, yeah, you know, we work together 1037 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: every day, and maybe that's the thing that's that's the 1038 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 1: least favorite thing about doing this, is it we do 1039 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: this every day. There's a lot and there are some 1040 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: times of the year where it gets a little different. 1041 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,240 Speaker 1: We see each other and it's not like I'm unhappy 1042 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: to see you, but all right, let's go see Sean 1043 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: Fagus says, all the quarterback talk has become tiresome. If 1044 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: Rogers throws a curve and ends up retiring, how much 1045 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 1: does that change the Steelers draft strategy after. 1046 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 3: They first round? Y? 1047 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, over that? How different? Ask Gasper Echos? How different 1048 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,919 Speaker 1: is this year's quarterback? This year's pre draft quarterback chatter 1049 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: from twenty twenty two and pundits were discussing Milik will 1050 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 1: Willis and Desmond Ritter's first round picks. Is it possible 1051 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: that only one quarterback will be drafted in the first round. 1052 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 3: It's possible, It's possible, But I think this class is 1053 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:04,879 Speaker 3: noticeably better than that one. 1054 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think if you look back, and I. 1055 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 3: Mean no one's going one, I mean that makes it 1056 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 3: different already. 1057 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: If you look back at that draft as well in 1058 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. There were fewer teams at that point 1059 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: that had a real true need quarterbacks, so they were 1060 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if there had been five or six teams 1061 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 1: that needed quarterback, that had to have a quarterback that year, 1062 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,240 Speaker 1: maybe those guys would have gone higher. 1063 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 3: And it's not because they flopped, but I'll take Milroe 1064 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 3: or Shuck over that version of Ritter or Willis or 1065 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,359 Speaker 3: certainly Corral And I think it was lost about that 1066 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 3: class is Everyone's like it was only for one first 1067 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 3: round quarterback and it was all the way at twenty 1068 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 3: there was no second round quarterbacks, right zero. Yeah, I 1069 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 3: mean you even have a hard time convincing me that if 1070 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 3: Milroe is still around the second round, he doesn't go. 1071 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: And most of those guys all started off as backups, 1072 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: all of them, None of them started from day one 1073 00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,439 Speaker 1: because nobody really needed, right, they weren't high petted, you guys, 1074 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,439 Speaker 1: and that that's a bad class. Yeah. 1075 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:03,359 Speaker 3: Uh. 1076 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: Nas Costco asked what is the most shocking pick you 1077 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,240 Speaker 1: can remember remember from the Steelers in the last fifteen years? Shocking? 1078 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 3: Edmunds took me a back. 1079 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,720 Speaker 1: I had heard some buzz about him in the days, 1080 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: in the days leading maybe even the hours. 1081 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,240 Speaker 3: Yeah to the draft that this am so focused, include 1082 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 3: myself on vander ash and Roque one. That was the 1083 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,399 Speaker 3: linebacker draft and they all went, say yeah, they all went, 1084 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 3: they were all gone. 1085 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: Who are other ones? I think Ziggi Hoobe was kind 1086 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: of a surprise to me just because he didn't that's 1087 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: that was close eight. That's that's the timeframe. Maybe nine. Yeah, 1088 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: oh eight was men that Hall, which was kind of 1089 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: a surprise as well. 1090 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a stupid one, but like a Wolokon, 1091 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,720 Speaker 3: I didn't see them taking a second quarterback. 1092 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 1: By the seventh. Then I packed through it. 1093 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 3: And I mean there's some of those. I'm sure you're 1094 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 3: talking about early pick. 1095 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. We got two questions left here. This is another 1096 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: one from nas Costco. If shuck falls around four, main 1097 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 1: because of age, do you sprint to turn the card 1098 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: in Yeah, yeah, yeah, unless you've already taken one, but 1099 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 1: at that point you may have already taken shock. I 1100 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 1: would sprint it in round three. Yeah. And then finally, 1101 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: Joey Baggadnut says, if they draft a wide receiver this year, 1102 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: would that mean they have no faith in Roman Wilson 1103 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,320 Speaker 1: being a contributor anytime soon. 1104 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 3: Depends where they take him, And I don't know it's 1105 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 3: a direct reflection on nothing. No matter what they do. 1106 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,800 Speaker 3: I mean, even if they would end up with Betch 1107 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 3: or Ilumina or or someone like that, that's a lot 1108 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 3: different style. Yeah, Yon day two. That doesn't mean they 1109 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 3: think Wilson's a boster can't play. 1110 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: No, No, I don't think they'll take a receiver that 1111 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: looks like him though. No, they're not going to take 1112 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 1: another one that's it's in the same mold as Austin 1113 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 1: and Wilson. Right, you're not taking its pure slot. 1114 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 3: Right, Like I don't think Noel was that. I think 1115 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 3: he's more. 1116 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 1: Austin can play outside too, right, He's shown that. But 1117 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if Wilson can play outside because I 1118 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,320 Speaker 1: haven't seen it. He did in college. 1119 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,399 Speaker 3: There's nothing they could do in the draft that would 1120 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 3: make me think, oh, they think Roman Wilson stinks. No, 1121 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Yeah, unless they drafted three 1122 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 3: of them or something that would signal that. But anyways, 1123 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,879 Speaker 3: that's some good questions on there. 1124 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: Once again, we appreciate those keep trying to do that 1125 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: here as the year goes on if I remember to 1126 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 1: send it out on Thursdays. 1127 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 2: Uh. 1128 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 1: But let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson. 1129 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly. That's going to do it for our 1130 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 1: number one of the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. 1131 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 1: Matt and I'll be back with our number two right 1132 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: after this