1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 2: I hope you all had a fantastic weekend, and as 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: seems to be the case every day, we come to 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 2: you with so many things happening, so many news stories 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: to tackle, and some very good news of course, continue 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: to come in from the Trump administration, in this case 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: pretending to the continued moves at the border that have 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: changed the whole paradigm. We are in a new era 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: of border security thanks to the Trump administration. We shall 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: discuss that Trump was at the Daytona five hundred. We 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: got some soundbites from him there. He was talking about well, 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: he was talking about a lot of things, but we'll 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: give you some of that. We have more from Doge 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: Elon Musk and his team diving in finding things. I 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: think that Elon is for the most part going to 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: be accurate on the first on the first go round, 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: meaning when he says something, I think the chances are 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: probably ninety percent plus, meaning they found something that looks 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: bad in the government, in the budgeting and the spending. 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: I think the chance they're nine out of ten that 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: it's going to be accurate, and it's a problem. Some 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: of the stuff that they're finding is just wild. I mean, 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: paying social security benefits to millions of people that shouldn't 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: be getting them, including people who are dead. So they 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: definitely should not be getting social Security benefits. 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure of that. We will break down that 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: for you. Also some. 29 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: Indications of where things are going on Russia and Ukraine 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: for the Ukraine Wars. You know, Trump wants to bring 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: that to a close. But this was what was really 32 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: tearing it up over the weekend, you know, Clay, I 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: had a mellow weekend here. I was in charge of Ginger. 34 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: Carrie was with her family, so as long as everything 35 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: was fine with the dog, that was my only responsibility. 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: So I had a little time and I was able 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: to watch the the Munich Security Conference speech that jd 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: Vance gave. It's about twenty twenty plus minutes. 39 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that entire sentence is one of the nerdiest, 40 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: one of the nerdiest intros of all times. I was 41 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: super excited to watch the Munich security speech. 42 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: But this is really good. It is really good. It 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: was phenomenal. 44 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: You should honestly, if you have the time, you don't 45 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: need to really watch it. You can listen. It's twenty 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: minutes long. It comes up if you just you know. 47 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: We're to do a simple, simple Internet search on it. 48 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: It's one of the best speeches I've heard a US 49 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: senior official give on foreign policy in many years, many years. 50 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: It is an absolute home run of a speech. But 51 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: it goes to the issue of free speech and free 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: speech as the basis for a free society. Can you 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: have a free society without free speech? I would say 54 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: the answer is no, and Europe is very decidedly against 55 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: free speech. We'll dive into that here commentarily, but before 56 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: we start making fun of the Germans for not liking 57 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: free speech very much, which is certainly the case on 58 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 2: our own CBS News, not ours, but it's American, so 59 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: it's it's kind of our fault, you know. 60 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: CBS News. 61 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: Margaret Brennan, who is now She's Clay. She's been giving 62 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: us more than the view lately in terms of soundbites 63 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: that we have fun with on this show. She is 64 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: not doing herself and her brand in her network any favors. 65 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: I want you to listen to her with Secretary of 66 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: State Rubio, who he just had on telling She's telling 67 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: Secretary of State Rubio. In the context of the JD 68 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: Van speech about free speech in Europe, she's saying, but 69 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: free speech led to the Holocaust. 70 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: Play three. 71 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: Well, he was standing in a country where free speech 72 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: was weaponized to conduct a genocide, and he met with 73 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: the head of a political party that has far right 74 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 4: views and some historic ties to extreme groups. The context 75 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: of that was changing the tone of it. And you 76 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: know that that the censorship disagree with you specifically about 77 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: the right. 78 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 5: Now I have to disagree with you. Free speech was 79 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 5: not used to conduct a genocide. The genocide was conducted 80 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 5: by an authoritarian Nazi regime that happened to also be 81 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 5: genocidal because they hated Jews, and they hated minorities, and 82 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 5: they hated those that they had a list of people 83 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 5: they hated, but primarily the Jews. There was no free 84 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 5: speech in Nazi Germany. There was none. There was also 85 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 5: no opposition in Nazi Germany. They were a sole and 86 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 5: only party that governed that country. So that's not an 87 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 5: accurate reflection of history. 88 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: This is a big deal. But what was your reaction 89 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: to it? First? 90 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: First, well, let me starting the positive. It's such a 91 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: moronic thing to say that. I think it would have 92 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: been easy to not respond like Rubio did and just 93 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 3: annihilate the premise of the question. Everyone out there knows 94 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: this experience where someone says something so crazy that you 95 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: don't know exactly how to respond immediately. 96 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: It's not even wrong, you know, you're like, that's not 97 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: even wrong. I don't know what that is. 98 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so the fact that he not only responded 99 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: but hammered it out of the park is a credit 100 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: to Marco Rubio. 101 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: And let me just say this because we're going to 102 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: talk about it more. 103 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 3: JD Vance and Marco Rubio are elite intellects representing the 104 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: Trump administration on an international stage right now. And I 105 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: think it's been a long time since we have had 106 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: truly elite intellex and your point on the JD Vance speech, 107 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: Marco Rubio, We've had on this program a lot. These 108 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: guys are not only smart, they're functionally smart. They're able 109 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 3: to explain why things matter, and sometimes smart people. 110 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: Don't do that. Well. Okay, so that's point one. Let's 111 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: give credit to Marco Rubio. 112 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: Point two, Margaret Brennan is and we're gonna play some 113 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 3: sixty minutes clips in a little while CBS News has 114 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: lit itself on fire, and Margaret Brennan is supposed to 115 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: be the supreme intellect of the CBS News organization. That's 116 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: why they give her this show to host, That's why 117 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 3: they allow her to talk to all these newsmakers. She's 118 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: a moron, and I think this is important. You know this, well, Buck, 119 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: but we got a hammer. 120 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: Do you think she's Do you think she's a moron 121 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: or do you think that she's just so indoctrinated that 122 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: she's incapable of accessing whatever cognition? I mean, you know 123 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: she's she's a I don't think she's dumb. I just 124 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: think that she's completely brainwashed. 125 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: Well, well that's interesting to our I mean dumber, brainwashed. 126 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: Here's why I think dumb. 127 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: I mean she speaks in Arabic like she actually is. 128 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: She's got some she's got some skill set, but she 129 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: has no judgment whatsoever. 130 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: Okay, that's a good point. It reminds me. So I'm 131 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: gonna go on, dumb, You're gonna go on brainwashed. Here, 132 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: she's an ideal, you know, she's an ideologue. She's like 133 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 3: a cult member of the left. That's what I see. 134 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: And but what she's addressing there Clay when she says 135 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: free speech leads to genocide. Journalists believe this. Now, this 136 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: is a widespread thing. That she's not the only one. 137 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: This is why it's so important and so powerful. It's 138 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 2: not just like, oh, Margaret Brennan is out to lunch 139 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: on this stuff. The belief is, if you can say 140 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: that we don't want to legal aliens in this country, 141 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: it's going to lead to genocide. If you can say 142 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: trans people don't exist, it's going to lead to genocide. 143 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: That is a mandatory left wing belief. Now, I yes, 144 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: and so what I think is important. 145 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: This is why studying history matters, And this is why 146 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: studying history with an open mind matters. Long before you 147 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: should have a developed political philosophy, we should be teaching 148 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: kids what history is. And I know that a lot 149 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: of times I'm a history major. We talk about the 150 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: fact that both you and I are history nerds. We 151 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: have a profoundly historically illiterate country, and buck I think 152 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: that is in many ways intentional, because if you don't 153 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: understand the history of this country and the history of 154 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: the world at large, you have the memory of a goldfish, 155 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: and you can be convinced of almost anything. The reason 156 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: why I say Margaret Brennan is a moron here is 157 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: an intelligent person would not make the argument that Nazi 158 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: Germany was able to take the steps that it did 159 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: during World War Two, including the Holocaust. Number I've spent 160 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: my time at the World War Two Museum just recently 161 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: when I was down in New Orleans for the Super Bowl, 162 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: and credit to everybody who was Eagles and Chiefs fans 163 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: and had their kids with them. I saw a lot 164 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 3: of people taking their kids the World War Two Museum 165 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: trying to educate them about what happened. 166 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: In World War Two. 167 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: What you're saying is very important that the left now 168 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: is arguing that free speech leads to authority tarianism. The 169 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: problem with that argument is it's one hundred percent wrong, 170 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: and you have to be historically illiterate to make that argument. 171 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: The first thing that authoritarians do is burn books, is 172 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: put people who are dissenters in prison. This is all 173 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: of history if you study it at all. So this 174 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: is where I say Margaret Brennan is a moron, because 175 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: she has to be historically illiterate to not be aware 176 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: of what the lessons of history actually. 177 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: Are well see, But this is where the indoctrination component. 178 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: I mean the same way that how can any person 179 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: with an IQ over fifty think that a man can 180 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: become a woman based on just reality and the science. 181 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: But yet the entire Democrat party says it, Why how 182 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: do we get to this mass illusion? Well, yes, and 183 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: the mass delusion in this context, and this is why 184 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 2: it's so important. It's not that Margaret Brennan said a 185 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: dumb thing, although that's true. The bigger issue is she 186 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 2: said the dumb thing, because that is what now Democrats 187 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: in good standing with the party are forced to believe. 188 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: It is like a It is like a an article 189 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: of faith on the left now right, So Clay, this 190 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: is why we can't have free speech about vaccines because 191 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 2: it will lead to mass death. We can't have free 192 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: speech about the trans community and you know what's going 193 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: on there and is it mental illness or whatever, because 194 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,119 Speaker 2: it will lead to mass suicide. 195 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: We can't essentially freedom. 196 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: This is one of the oldest arguments in existence, and 197 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: the Left has gone completely and when they left the 198 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: Democrats the same thing. The Democrats have gone completely insane 199 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: with this in recent years, which is freedom of thought, 200 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: freedom of speech leads to the worst things in society, 201 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: And to your point, they have it exactly backwards, and 202 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: this is why they're wrong on so many things in 203 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: such big ways. This is not a small issue. This 204 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: is a huge issue there and they're dealing with right now. 205 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: And also this is indicative of the culture of rot 206 00:10:55,480 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: at CBS News, And this to me is port or 207 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: to point out Margaret Brennan doesn't stand on an island 208 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: by herself. If you or I most of the time, 209 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: Buck get something wrong, it's mostly our faults. 210 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: By which I mean, you know we blew it. We didn't. 211 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 3: We don't have a huge staff of people feeding us 212 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: information all day long saying hey, this is what you 213 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: need to get out there the way this show happens. 214 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: We have a great staff around us, but it's not 215 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 3: like they do television, where you have tons of production 216 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: assistants where they would sit down for a long time 217 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: preparing for this interview. And the culture of CBS News 218 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: is so broken, Buck, that a question like that could 219 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: be prepared and no one in that room would raise 220 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: their hand and say, wait a minute, guys, are we 221 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: really going to argue with the Secretary of State that 222 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: The reason why the Holocaust happened is because Germany had 223 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 3: too much free speech during Hitler era. 224 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: And the reason this is so important, and this all 225 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: ties in, like why are we talking about CBS. Margaret Brennan, Rubio, 226 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: Jade Evans, jd Vance gave an incredible speech. We're gonna 227 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 2: play some clips for you here in a minutes. You 228 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: can hear, you know, if you wanted to skip, we'll 229 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: give you the highlights that'll give you the essence of it. 230 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: Europe has abandoned freedom of speech entirely. 231 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: Entirely. There is no freedom of speech in Europe. Now. 232 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: Now they'll say yes, there. 233 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: Is accept in and they'll list all these categories and 234 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: you'll say those are not. This isn't uh, you know, 235 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 2: calling for someone, you know, This isn't yelling in an 236 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: attack dog to go bite someone. This isn't call inciting violence. 237 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: This is about things like immigration. This is about policy 238 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: matters Europe. The EU overall has abandoned free speech, and 239 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: the Democrat journalists in this country want that here. 240 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why that's such a. 241 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: Huge They want what Germany has, which is excusman, did 242 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: you put some me meme online? 243 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: We're going to arrest you. 244 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 2: Now they actually do that, and I think this is 245 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 2: and they don't see that as the reincarnation of a 246 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: kind of benevolent fascism or something. I mean, that's what's 247 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: going on right now in Europe, and CBS News the Democrat. 248 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: Party are on board with it. They want it here 249 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: for us too. 250 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: Sixty minutes covered a raid on a man's house for 251 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 3: a meme. 252 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna get We're gonna We're gonna play this for you. 253 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy. 254 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: Believe the entire CBS News department needs to be absolutely 255 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: wiped clean. Like this is a job that I would 256 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: actually like to have, is go in clean house at 257 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: CBS News. The resources that they have Buck, We'll talk 258 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: about this too, are remarkable, and yet they now have 259 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: found themselves arguing in favor of the government arresting people 260 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: for saying things mean online. That's where CBS News has 261 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: descended to. 262 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: Look. 263 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: Uh, you know, we had over the weekend amazing stakes 264 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: inside of the Travis House. We got I told you 265 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: we're gonna sit back watch Cobra Kai. We did that 266 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 3: on Thursday. 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You will 292 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: love it. Good Ranchers American Meat delivered my name Clay 293 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: for twenty five bucks off. 294 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. We 295 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: claim your sanity with Clay and Fun. 296 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 6: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 297 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 6: get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 298 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 6: We're gonna play you some of these cuts coming up 299 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 6: in a minute from JD Vance. But I do think 300 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 6: you need to understand where we are right now, and 301 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 6: we were talking about it off air. If you had 302 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 6: told me even a few years ago, Hey, on major 303 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 6: broadcasts and network news stations, they're going to be coming 304 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 6: on saying you've got to be careful about free speech 305 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 6: because it can lead to the Holocaust. It's not only 306 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 6: a profound sense of historical illiteracy, Buck, it's actually even 307 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 6: scarier than that, because they're arguing the exact opposite of 308 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 6: what actually happened and Unfortunately, we have a lot of 309 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 6: Americans who are not sophisticated enough to understand that they're 310 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 6: being basically live, I'm going to be the I'm going 311 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 6: to be the communist translator here for a second. 312 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: The left believes that if. 313 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: Germany had had a more active progressive government, it could 314 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: have shut down the mean things the Nazis were saying. 315 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: To your point, yes, historically ignorant and crazy, but that's that. 316 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: This is they think that when people can say the 317 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: mean things, that's without the government steping in. 318 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: That's the problem. 319 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 2: You and I sit here and say no, the problem 320 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: is the government stepping in and saying because the Nazi, yeah, 321 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: you couldn't just walk around the billboard being like, you know, 322 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: Hitler is a bleeping bleep or something, You're gonna get killed, 323 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: actually get killed either way. But they missed that part 324 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: that they missed the entire lesson of history, which is 325 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 2: kind of significant. But we are right now the United 326 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: States the strongest bastion for free speech in western civilization, 327 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: any elling world. But this is the we're the only one. Actually, Yeah, 328 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: and Canada you have to use preferred pronouns. But that 329 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 2: was how Jordan Peterson I interviewed him. No one had 330 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: ever heard of this guy. He's like, Oh, I'm gonna 331 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: come on your radio show, you know. And I was like, 332 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: come on my radio show, mister Professor Peterson. This is 333 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: like twenty sixteen. And you know that was because of 334 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: the mandatory pronouns. We are the only truly free society 335 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: when it comes to speech. And even we have our 336 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: problems here, I'm aware of that, but we're the only 337 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: one that even tries. All right, we'll talk about Germany 338 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: here in a second. Hey, guys, you know what I've 339 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: got right here? Actually you can see it if I've 340 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: got what I'm taking from chalk every day. I'm on 341 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: a regimen, and those of you who watch on the 342 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: video will see I'm down thirty pounds. 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Welcome 357 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: back in to Clay and Buck. So we were talking 358 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: of what's going on in Well on CBS News. It 359 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 2: Margaret Brennan who is providing us with great content to 360 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: respond to on the show, which. 361 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: We appreciate, so thank you for that. 362 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: And then we also have the JD Vance speech over 363 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: in Europe, which is worth watching or listening to in 364 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: its entirety. 365 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: But I will start with this. 366 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: Here is a I think a very good example of 367 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 2: what we're talking about. This is CUT four across Europe 368 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: right now. You can be locked up and we're not 369 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: just talking about fines here. They will put you in 370 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 2: prison for saying mean things in person, but also onlines. 371 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: Cut four. 372 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 7: Play it and unfortunately, when I look at Europe today, 373 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 7: it's sometimes not so clear what happened to some of 374 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 7: the Cold Wars winners. I look to Brussels, where EU 375 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 7: commissioned commissars warren citizens that they intend to shut down 376 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 7: social media during times of civil unrest the moment they 377 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 7: spot what they've judged to be quote, hateful content. Or 378 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 7: to this very country where police have carried out raids 379 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 7: against citizens suspected of posting anti feminist comments online as 380 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 7: part of quote combating misogyny on the Internet a day 381 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 7: of action. I looked to Sweden, or two weeks ago, 382 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 7: the government convicted a Christian activist for participating in Kuran 383 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 7: burnings that resulted in his friends' murder. The judge in 384 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 7: his case chillingly noted Sweden's laws to supposedly protect free 385 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,239 Speaker 7: expression do not in fact grant and I'm quoting a 386 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 7: free pass to do or say anything without risking offending 387 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 7: the group that holds that belief. 388 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 2: Clay, this is what you see in Europe a lot 389 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: of the time. You know what, these laws are enforced 390 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: primarily in order to privilege those who are for open borders, 391 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: to privilege those who are coming refugees from the Muslim 392 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: world who've come to Europe in huge numbers and the 393 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: last several decades. If it offends them, if they are 394 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: offended by what you say, if you offend Islam, for example, 395 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: in Europe, you can go to prison. You actually have 396 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 2: to deal with this. And it's not just some of 397 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: these countries like Germany and others that maybe you think, well, 398 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: we don't have that much in common with them. He 399 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: specifically talks, You've got to hear this story. This is JD. 400 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: Vance in his speech talking to about somebody who was 401 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: arrested for silent prayer. Silent prayer in the vicinity of 402 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: an abortion clinic Play five. 403 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 7: And perhaps most concerningly, I look to our very dear 404 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 7: friends the United Kingdom, where the backslide away from conscience 405 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 7: rights has placed the basic liberties of religious Britons in particular, 406 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 7: in the crosshairs. 407 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: A little over two years ago. 408 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 7: The British government charged Adam Smith Connor, fifty one year 409 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 7: old physiotherapists and an army of veteran with the heinous 410 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 7: crime of standing fifty meters from an abortion clinic and 411 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 7: silently praying for three minutes, not obstructing anyone, not interacting 412 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 7: with anyone, just silently praying on his own After British 413 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 7: law enforcement spotted him and demanded to know what he 414 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 7: was praying for. Adam replied simply, it was on behalf 415 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 7: of the unborn son he and his former girlfriend. 416 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: Had aboarded years before. Now, the officers were not moved. 417 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 7: Adam was found guilty of breaking the government's new buffer 418 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 7: zones law, which criminalized as silent prayer and other actions 419 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 7: that could influence a person's decision within two hundred meters 420 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 7: of an abortion facility. He was sentenced to pay thousands 421 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 7: of pounds in legal costs. 422 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: To the prosecution. 423 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 7: Now, I wish I could say that this was a fluke, 424 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 7: a one off, crazy example of a badly written law 425 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 7: being enacted against a single person. But no. This last October, 426 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 7: just a few months ago, the Scottish government began distributing 427 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 7: letters to citizens whose houses lay within so called safe 428 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 7: access stones, warning them that even private prayer within their 429 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 7: own homes may amount to breaking the law. Naturally, the 430 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 7: government urged readers to report any fellow citizens suspected guilty 431 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 7: of thought crime, and Britain and across Europe, free speech 432 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 7: I fear is in retreat. 433 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: Clay. 434 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: This is thought crime. They're enforcing it. Truly, that's not 435 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: an exaggeration at all. Silent prayer can silent prayer not, 436 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: I mean, prayer would be bad enough to get in 437 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: trouble for Silent prayer can get you fined or locked 438 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: up in the United Kingdom. Why because abortion is sacred 439 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 2: to the left, because abortion is the only religion that matters. 440 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: Let's also play this sixty minutes. Some of you might 441 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: be out there saying, boy, that sounds like that, that 442 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: sounds like an exaggeration. I think this is where the 443 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: Margaret Brennan question of Marco Rubio comes in, because remember 444 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: CBS News on Sunday started off with Margaret Brennan saying 445 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: the Holocaust was caused by free speech, and it ended 446 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: with the news department in Germany covering in a positive 447 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 2: way the fact that insulting someone online can be a 448 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: crime in Germany. Listen to this and tell me this 449 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: is not chilling. This is sixty minutes in Germany covering 450 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: and discussing thought crimes and insults online and how they 451 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: aren't protected speech. 452 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 8: Listen, is it a crime to insult somebody in public? 453 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 7: Yes? 454 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 8: Yes, and it's a crime to insult them online as well. 455 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 9: Yes, define could be even higher if you insult someone 456 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 9: in the internet. Why because in internet it stays there. 457 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 9: If we are talking at face to face, you insult 458 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 9: me and sold you, okay, finish. But if you in 459 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 9: the internet, if I insiled you or a politician. 460 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 8: That sicks around forever. Yeah, the prosecutors explain. German law 461 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 8: also prohibits the spread of malicious gossip, violent threats, and 462 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 8: fake quotes. If somebody posts something that's not true and 463 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 8: then somebody else reposts it or likes it, are they 464 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 8: committing a crime. 465 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 9: In the case of reposting, it as a crime as well, 466 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 9: because the reader contstinguished whether you just invented this or 467 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 9: just reposted it. That's the same for us. 468 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 8: The punishment for breaking hate speech laws can include jail 469 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 8: time for repeat offenders. 470 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: They also imagine this, this is Germany. Now, okay, they 471 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: actually do this to people. They'll send the cops to 472 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: your house. Bang bang bang, excuse. 473 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: Me, have you been retweeting the memes? You're going to 474 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: prison for the meme retweet? They actually do this, this 475 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: is the law. These people are out of their minds. 476 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 3: And if you have a historical background, what is the 477 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 3: analogy that is easy to draw here to me. If 478 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: you want to make get an analogy to German history, 479 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 3: it is the SS showing up at the door and 480 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: banging on the door and dragging people out for doing 481 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 3: things that the government disagrees with. What they are trying 482 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: to argue at CBS News is this is a good thing. 483 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 3: That segment that we just aired was CBS News shining 484 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 3: a spotlight in a positive way. Sometimes sixty minutes they 485 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: shine a negative spotlight on someone. Right, you guys have 486 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: all seen those stories they are choosing to make German 487 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: thought policing appear to be something that should be a 488 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: positive thing to Americans, and buck they talk about in 489 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 3: that same I couldn't believe that entire segment. They talk 490 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: about the fact that they seize people's phones and don't 491 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 3: allow them to have access to their phones, and they're 492 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 3: kind of laughing about it because they share memes that 493 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 3: the government decides they don't like. And this is what 494 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: Biden tried to do with everything they were doing with Facebook. 495 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: It's directly connect. That's why what we just lived through 496 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 3: during COVID. 497 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: Just forget about that also for a second, like the 498 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 2: history and the not you know that, Yeah, there's a 499 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 2: lot of historical ignoramus is running around. 500 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: This is insane. How can the law determine today, just today? Now? 501 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 2: How can the law reasonably determine if something reaches the 502 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: level of offense that you might have, you might be 503 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 2: imprisoned for it. I mean, this is completely privileging one 504 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: set of or you know, a certain set of beliefs, 505 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: certain sets of people, individuals. 506 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: It's it's used to. 507 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 2: Shut down people who are we've already seen this. If 508 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: you're critical of Islam, if you're critical of mass migration, 509 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: if you're critical of transgenders, if you're critical of climate change. 510 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: It's all left wing global of stuff, the same stuff 511 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 2: that they are trying to do here to us. And 512 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 2: I think that's a critical point. And we got a 513 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: trial run during COVID of this, you and I did 514 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 2: when I got you know, my a YouTube channel shut. 515 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: Down, destroyed, Ben. 516 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 2: I was trying to get people the word out about 517 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: how masks don't work and lockdowns are insane. 518 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: Shut down. I had hit pieces. You would hit pieces too, 519 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: hit pieces run. 520 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: On me by fact checkers. Yes, And the government was 521 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: one step away from knock knock knock. How you open 522 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: showings of climate change memes. This is what's going on 523 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: in the Western world today. 524 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: It's also why traditional liberal and conservative descriptions often don't 525 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 3: work in the modern era because, and this is important, historically, 526 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: it is profoundly illiberal to not allow people to express 527 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: their actual opinions. This is not some the entire basis. 528 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: The reason why we have the First Amendment is because 529 00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: our founders, God bless them, were intelligent enough to understand 530 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: that the most profound freedom we must have is freedom 531 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: from the state regulating what the individual can say. And 532 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 3: the whole idea of the First Amendment is the marketplace 533 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 3: of ideas, which is to the extent that I have 534 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: any overarching political belief that I will defend for the 535 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: rest of my life. 536 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: This is it. 537 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: We get better results when you and me and every 538 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: one of you out there listening feels comfortably arguing in 539 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 3: the public square for exactly what you think, and that 540 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 3: over time the best arguments will win. That is the 541 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 3: entire basis of our foundational republican form of government. What 542 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 3: is happening around the world in many places that theoretically 543 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 3: embrace Western civilization is and I'm holding it up for 544 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: people right there to be able to see. We suddenly 545 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: have phones in our pocket, and we have the ability 546 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: to disseminate information on a level that has never existed before. 547 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: And we are grappling with how to handle that incredible 548 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 3: power that all of us hold to speak out and 549 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 3: be seen in a way that has never existed in 550 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 3: the history of humanity. And what you are seeing is 551 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 3: many people out there do not believe that we should 552 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: all have the ability to share our opinions. And I 553 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: give credit to JD. Vance and to Marco Rubio for 554 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 3: going to Europe and holding All he did was hold 555 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 3: up a mirror to reflect what they are doing, and 556 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 3: it made them so profoundly uncomfortable that the reverberations of 557 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 3: those speeches have now crossed back to the Atlantic, where 558 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: across the Atlantic Ocean, where now the Margaret Brennan's of 559 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: the world are outraged by what we had the audio 560 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: audacity to say, which is everybody should be able to 561 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: argue to the fullest extent of their voice for whatever 562 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 3: they believe in. 563 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: That's the true principle of liberty itself. I can't believe that. 564 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 3: This has become political, because it is a foundational principle 565 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 3: of the American Democratic Republic. But this is where we are, 566 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 3: and this is the battle that we must win in 567 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: order for I believe society to fully flourish and for 568 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: freedom to ring around the world. Family reunions often have 569 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 3: a highlight reel memories that you preserved on old media 570 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 3: somewhere in the house. Now's the time of year. We're 571 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: through Christmas, we're through New Years, we're through Thanksgiving, where 572 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 3: everybody kind of gets a breath and you can go 573 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: back and you can start looking at all those old memories. 574 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 3: I know we're doing this in the Travis household right 575 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: now because we're in the process of starting to pack up. 576 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 3: We're moving into a new house now. I don't know 577 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 3: when that new house is going to be finished, but 578 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: we are going through a lot of our old family 579 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: memories right now, starting to collate it so that it's 580 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: prepared to move to a new house. How many of 581 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 3: you out there have been doing that? How many of 582 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 3: you have got maybe an elderly relative who's been storing 583 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 3: all these old memories and you're going through and you're thinking, boy, 584 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 3: I'd really like to share this with the grandkids. I'd 585 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 3: really like to preserve this for the next generation. Now 586 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 3: is the time you got a little bit of a 587 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 3: breather before summer vacation season gets here. Kids are running around, 588 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 3: they're back in school, but the holidays are over. How 589 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 3: about preserving your family memories for as long as you 590 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: can right now at legacy Box. I want you to 591 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: go to legacybox dot com slash clay right now. Check 592 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 3: out what they do down in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Old VHS tapes, 593 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: old pictures. They can make sure that they last forever, 594 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: digitally preserved. You know, all those old photos can disintegrate. 595 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 3: All those old VHS tapes weren't made to last forever. 596 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: Now's the time to preserve your family's a legacy, your 597 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 3: family's memories at la legacybox dot com slash Clay. You'll 598 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: get the best possible deal right now legacybox dot com 599 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: slash Clay. 600 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: Get hooked up today. 601 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: Preserve your family memories on a digital level for decades 602 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 3: generations to come. Be the hero of your family's memories 603 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: at legacybox dot com slash Clay, Clay. 604 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 6: Travis and Buck Sexton telling it like it is. Find 605 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 6: them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get 606 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 6: your podcasts. Welcome back in, Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. 607 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 6: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us, and I 608 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 6: hope you guys are having a fantastic start here week. 609 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 6: I know it's President's Day and I know many of 610 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 6: you are out there. Maybe some of you have the 611 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 6: day off. You hear screaming in my background. It is 612 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 6: my kids, Buck, who don't have school today and are 613 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 6: down the stairs. 614 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: Playing video games right now. You're nice, of all, I 615 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 2: got to play FIFA against your boys and we'll see 616 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: who the real view game champion is. Second of all, 617 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: is it really a holiday today, Clay? 618 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I'm saying. It's a holiday if. 619 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: You want a great deal on a water bed or something, right, 620 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 2: I mean you got the President's Day. 621 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: Sale, but you know, or new lawnmower. But it like, 622 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: doesn't everybody work on President's Day? Pretty much? 623 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 3: I have always worked on President's Day. I feel like 624 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: if you're not working all the test I've never in 625 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 3: my life been told, oh, it's President's Day, don't show 626 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 3: up to the office. Yeah, never, I think, I think. 627 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 3: But bankers never work. You know, It's amazing that in 628 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 3: this twenty four to seven day and age we have 629 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: that bank hours are still what they are right like 630 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 3: banks like, hey, we're only open nine to five. It 631 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. I know they're closed today. I think the 632 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 3: stock market is closed. But yeah, in general, I feel 633 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 3: like a lot of holidays are kind of shadow holidays, 634 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: meaning that a lot of people don't necessarily celebrate this one. 635 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: But we are here with all of you. 636 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 3: I bet some people are listening who are driving around 637 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 3: that also have kids or grandkids that they are watching 638 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 3: today because they are out of school. And I spent 639 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 3: the weekend working quite a bit, like I said, helping 640 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: to pack up some of the stuff that we've got 641 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: in the house. We're not moving for months. But in 642 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 3: that process and I was drinking my Crocket coffee. I 643 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,479 Speaker 3: am drinking it right now. At the end of this hour, 644 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 3: I'm going to go downstairs get a brand new cup 645 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 3: of coffee. Crocketcoffee dot com code book. You'll get an 646 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 3: autograph copy of my book. She's now my assistant. Initially 647 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 3: she started off taking care of the kids, but the 648 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 3: kids have gotten old enough. My assistant, Katie, who is amazing, 649 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 3: is shipping all of these out and making sure that 650 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 3: all of you who are signing up for Crockett Coffee 651 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 3: are getting an autograph copy of the book. So if 652 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 3: you go to Crocket Coffee dot Com, use code book. 653 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 3: We've got light roast, we've got dark roast, we've got 654 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 3: medium roast, we've got an organic roast. We've got decaf. 655 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 3: We also have a lot of great gear that is 656 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 3: really fun. If you like American history as we do, 657 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 3: I guarantee you that you're gonna like Crocket Coffee dot 658 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 3: Com we come back. I actually watched. We got two 659 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 3: things that I think we're worth hitting on. One positive, 660 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 3: the border is basically shut down. Thought Tom Holman and 661 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 3: Donald Trump and our friend Stephen Miller. They have effectively 662 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 3: shut down the border. The whole story of the border 663 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 3: being wide open is over. That is a positive. Also, 664 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 3: they had the fiftieth anniversary of Saturday Night Live. Used 665 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 3: to be funny, but they brought out Tom Hanks, is 666 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 3: supposed to be the most lovable American actor, and they 667 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 3: ridiculed Trump supporters and said all of us were racist. 668 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 3: We're gonna play that for you and point out that 669 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 3: this is one reason that SNL has collapsed. All that 670 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 3: still coming. We'll take some of your calls to eight 671 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 3: hundred and two A two two eight eight two. Appreciate 672 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 3: all of you hanging out with US. President's Day Edition, 673 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 3: Clay and Buck Show, Keep hanging with us.