WEBVTT - Covid Vaccine Front-Runner Ahead of Competition

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Carol Masser and I'm Jason Kelly. It's time

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<v Speaker 1>for this week's cover story. Well, of all the players

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<v Speaker 1>developing a vaccine for COVID nineteen, here's a piece of advice.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one name you should remember. Sarah Gilbert. That's right, Jason.

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<v Speaker 1>The fifty eight year old University of Oxford professor is

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<v Speaker 1>leading one of the most high profile and advanced vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>candidates against COVID nineteen. The Oxford vaccine, a so called

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<v Speaker 1>viral vector type, is already in phase three, or final

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<v Speaker 1>stage trials. That puts Gilbert in her team months ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of the competition. Oxford Well, it's also struck a deal

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<v Speaker 1>with Astra Zeneca to spearhead global manufacturing and distribution. The

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<v Speaker 1>pharma company has lined up agreements to produce two billion

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<v Speaker 1>doses and sell the vaccine on a not for profit

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<v Speaker 1>basis during the crisis. So why the impressive lead Because

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<v Speaker 1>Gilbert's work on a vaccine for ebola and then mirrors

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<v Speaker 1>another coronavirus gave her a running start when COVID nineteen emerged.

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<v Speaker 1>While the big question remains the vaccines efficacy, Gilbert says

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<v Speaker 1>she could have results by September the front on her.

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<v Speaker 1>Oxford's COVID nineteen vaccine, devised by Sarah Gilbert, is in

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<v Speaker 1>human trials. Astra Zenica has lined up agreements to produce

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<v Speaker 1>two billion doses. Now the World waits. By Stephanie Baker.

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<v Speaker 1>In April, Sarah Gilbert's three children, twenty one year old triplets,

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<v Speaker 1>all studying biochemistry, decided to take part in a trial

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<v Speaker 1>for an experimental vaccine against COVID nineteen. It was their

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<v Speaker 1>mother's vaccine. She leads the University of Oxford team that

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<v Speaker 1>developed it. But there wasn't a big family talk. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really discuss it as I wasn't home much at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Gilbert told me recently. She'd been working around

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<v Speaker 1>the clock, as one does while trying to end the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>and at any rate, wasn't worried for her kids. We

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<v Speaker 1>know the adverse event profile, and we know the dose

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<v Speaker 1>to use because we've done this so many times before,

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<v Speaker 1>she says. Obviously we're doing safety testing, but we're not

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<v Speaker 1>concerned with safety. Low on her list of worries, her

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<v Speaker 1>triplets are fine. Gilbert is focused on quickly determining how

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<v Speaker 1>effective the vaccine will be and how it will be made.

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<v Speaker 1>In April, Oxford struck a deal with British pharmaceutical giant

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<v Speaker 1>astra Zenica to spearhead global manufacturing and distribution and help

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<v Speaker 1>run more trials around the world. Astrazenica has agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>sell the vaccine on a not for profit basis during

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<v Speaker 1>the crisis if it proves effective, and has lined up

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<v Speaker 1>deals with multiple manufacturers to produce more than two billion doses.

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<v Speaker 1>Gilbert has been all over the British press, but she

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<v Speaker 1>appears to regard public attention as a distraction. For more

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<v Speaker 1>than two decades, she worked anonymously developing vaccines while also

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<v Speaker 1>of necessity turning out endless grant applications. Her research was

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<v Speaker 1>rarely discussed outside scientific circles. Now she's leading one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most high profile and advanced vaccine candidates against COVID nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>with Phase three, or final stage trials under way involving

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of people in Brazil, South Africa, the UK and

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<v Speaker 1>soon the US. Money is no longer a struggle. At

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<v Speaker 1>the end of April, crunching a process that normally takes

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<v Speaker 1>about five years into less than four months, Gilbert and

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<v Speaker 1>her colleagues at Oxford's Jenner Institute started a human trial

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<v Speaker 1>on people. When Gilbert testified before a parliamentary committee in

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<v Speaker 1>early July, one member compared her effort to going into

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<v Speaker 1>a shed and coming out with the jet engine. Gilbert's

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<v Speaker 1>team has leap frogged other vaccine contenders to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where it will likely finish vaccinating subjects in its big

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand person efficacy trial before other candidates even start

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<v Speaker 1>testing on that scale. Kate Bingham, chair of the UK

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<v Speaker 1>government's Vaccine Task Force, told the committee in early July

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<v Speaker 1>she's well ahead of the world. Bingham said it's the

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<v Speaker 1>most advanced vaccine anywhere. Anthony Fauci, director of the u

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<v Speaker 1>S National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease the in

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<v Speaker 1>I a i D, has sounded a note of caution

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<v Speaker 1>about Oxford's frontrunner status. You've got to be careful if

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<v Speaker 1>you're temporarily leading the way versus having a vaccine that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually going to work, he told the BBC. Recently, most

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<v Speaker 1>vaccines in development failed to get licensed. Unlike drugs to

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<v Speaker 1>treat diseases, vaccines are given to healthy people to prevent illness,

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<v Speaker 1>which means regulators set a high bar for approval and

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<v Speaker 1>usually want to see year's worth of safety data in

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<v Speaker 1>the COVID nineteen pandemic. It's not yet clear what regulators

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<v Speaker 1>will accept as proof of a successful and safe vaccine.

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<v Speaker 1>The US Food and Drug Administration has said a vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>would need to be more effective than a placebo to

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<v Speaker 1>be approved, and would need to show more evidence than

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<v Speaker 1>blood tests indicating an immune response. Regulators in other countries

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<v Speaker 1>haven't spelled out what would be acceptable. Gilbert has voiced

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<v Speaker 1>remarkable confidence in her chances, saying the Oxford vaccine has

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<v Speaker 1>a probability of being effective in stopping people who are

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<v Speaker 1>exposed to the novel coronavirus from developing COVID nineteen. She

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<v Speaker 1>has said she could know by September. Asked by MPs

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<v Speaker 1>in early July whether the world would have to struggle

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<v Speaker 1>through the winter without a vaccine, Gilbert said, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>we can improve on those timelines and come to your rescue. Gilbert,

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<v Speaker 1>who is fifty eight, has the hyper efficient, serious demeanor

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<v Speaker 1>you'd expect from someone who might be on the cusp

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<v Speaker 1>of a breakthrough and hasn't a minute to spare. When

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<v Speaker 1>I first called her in early March, she abruptly ended

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation after ten minutes to speak to someone about

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<v Speaker 1>the technical process of manufacturing the vaccine. It would have

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<v Speaker 1>been crazy to take offense. Gilbert says. She wakes up

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<v Speaker 1>at around four a m. Most days with lots of

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<v Speaker 1>questions in my head, works from home for a few hours,

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<v Speaker 1>then rides her bicycle to the institute, where she works

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<v Speaker 1>into the evening. The Oxford team, just a handful of

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<v Speaker 1>people in January, now comprises roughly two hundred and fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>The vaccine is a so called viral vector type, based

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<v Speaker 1>on years of research by Gilbert and Adrian Hill, the

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<v Speaker 1>head of the Gender Institute. Traditional vaccines are made with

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<v Speaker 1>a weekend or inactivated form of the germ that causes

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<v Speaker 1>infection to stimulate an immune response. They aren't easy to

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<v Speaker 1>develop and produce quickly. The Oxford team has created a

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<v Speaker 1>technology that can speed the process by using a harmless

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<v Speaker 1>virus as a kind of trojan horse to carry the

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<v Speaker 1>genetic material of a pathogen into cells to generate an

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<v Speaker 1>immune response. In the case of COVID nineteen, Gilbert has

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<v Speaker 1>taken a chimpanzee adenavirus, a common cold virus, and inserted

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<v Speaker 1>genetic material from the surface spike protein of the stars

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<v Speaker 1>cove two virus as a way of tricking the immune

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<v Speaker 1>system to fight back. The chimp adenavirus platform stimulates both

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<v Speaker 1>antibodies and high levels of killer T cells, a type

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<v Speaker 1>of white blood cell that helps the immune system destroy infection.

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<v Speaker 1>Gilbert's approach is similar to a viral vector vaccine developed

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<v Speaker 1>by the Chinese company Cancino Biologics that's in phase two

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<v Speaker 1>human trials. The difference between the two is small, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe crucial. Cancino uses a vector based on a human

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<v Speaker 1>adenovirus that many people have already been infected with. Early

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<v Speaker 1>tests showed that people with pre existing antibodies to the

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<v Speaker 1>adenavirus neutralized the vaccine before it could elicit a strong

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<v Speaker 1>immune response to stars COVI two, the trojan horse is

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<v Speaker 1>destroyed before the troops can get out. Johnson and Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>is developing a similar vaccine based on a human adenovirus.

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<v Speaker 1>It will begin human trials in the second half of July.

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<v Speaker 1>A successful vaccine likely won't be effective no matter who

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<v Speaker 1>wins the race, and success might have different definitions. Not

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<v Speaker 1>all vaccines produce what's called sterilizing immunity, in which the

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<v Speaker 1>body produces neutralizing antibodies that block of virus from getting

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<v Speaker 1>into cells. Some vaccines don't prevent infection, but trigger the

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<v Speaker 1>immune system to protect against illness. Jonas Salk's polio vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't stop infection, but prevents the disease that crippled millions.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Gilbert what her definition of a successful vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>would be, but she wouldn't be drawn out on specifics.

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<v Speaker 1>We need a vaccine with a high level of efficacy

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<v Speaker 1>against disease, which also has a significant impact on virus transmission,

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<v Speaker 1>she said. The Oxford team probably wouldn't be so far

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<v Speaker 1>along with its COVID vaccine had it not been for

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<v Speaker 1>another deadly pathogen that threatened to cause a pandemic, Ebola.

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<v Speaker 1>In fourteen, the Gender Institute led the first trial of

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<v Speaker 1>an ebola vaccine devised by Glaxo smith Klein as part

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<v Speaker 1>of the rapid response to an outbreak spreading through Guinea, Liberia,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sierra Leone. The outbreak ended before they were able

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<v Speaker 1>to finish. Merk got there first to test its experimental

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine while cases were still spreading in Guinea. In twenty

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen and one, regulatory approvals in the US and Europe

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of last year. That experience taught the

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<v Speaker 1>Oxford team about the importance of speed. We were horribly

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<v Speaker 1>conscious the whole way through that one week, one way

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<v Speaker 1>or the other might make a difference. Hill says it

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<v Speaker 1>still might. In the wake of the Ebola outbreak, Gilbert

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<v Speaker 1>responded to a call from the World Health Organization for

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<v Speaker 1>researchers to come up with methods to rapidly respond to

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<v Speaker 1>a clutch of emerging pathogens. It meant having a plan

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<v Speaker 1>for disease X, that unknown yet inevitable pathogen lurking around

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<v Speaker 1>the corner before COVID nineteen presented as the nightmare disease

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<v Speaker 1>X scenario. Gilbert began working on Middle East Respiratory Syndrome

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<v Speaker 1>or MIRRORS, another coronavirus that causes pneumonia and had threatened

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<v Speaker 1>to spark a global health crisis. It first emerged in

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<v Speaker 1>twelve in Saudi Arabia, but an outbreak didn't occur until

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<v Speaker 1>MERS is much more deadly than COVID nineteen, killing about

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<v Speaker 1>a third of those infected. Gilbert worked on a Mer's

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine using the chimp adenavirus, in this case fused with

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<v Speaker 1>the genetic material of the MIRRORS virus. She traveled to

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<v Speaker 1>Saudi Arabia in November twenty fifteen for a conference with

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<v Speaker 1>leading vaccinologists, hoping it would result in funding. It didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>She and Hill had government grants to develop a number

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<v Speaker 1>of vaccines, but that could take them only so far,

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<v Speaker 1>and in twenty sixteen they created a private company called Vaxitech.

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<v Speaker 1>It went on to raise more than thirty million pounds

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<v Speaker 1>about thirty seven point eight million dollars from Google Ventures

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<v Speaker 1>now g V, Sequoia Capital China, and Oxford Sciences Innovation,

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<v Speaker 1>a venture capital funds set up to commercialize scientific research

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of Oxford. The company holds the rights to

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<v Speaker 1>several vaccines Gilbert and Hill are developing using the chimpadinavirus platform,

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<v Speaker 1>including a promising prostate cancer therapy. The VC funding, along

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<v Speaker 1>with some government money, helped them fine tune the viral

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<v Speaker 1>vector program and pushed the Mirrors vaccine into a small

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<v Speaker 1>safety trial with twenty four people in the Subjects were

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<v Speaker 1>divided into three groups getting low, intermediate, and high doses.

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<v Speaker 1>The results, published in April twenty twenty, showed the vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>was safe and produced an immune response that persisted for

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<v Speaker 1>a year. It produced high levels of T cells, but

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<v Speaker 1>only forty four percent of people receiving the highest dose

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<v Speaker 1>generated neutralizing antibodies. That raised the question of whether two

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<v Speaker 1>doses might be needed. The Mirror's safety study couldn't prove

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<v Speaker 1>whether the combination of T cells and neutralizing antibodies induced

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<v Speaker 1>by the vaccine worked to prevent the disease because it

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<v Speaker 1>was too small and took place in the UK, which

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<v Speaker 1>has had only a handful of Mirr's cases since twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>In December twenty nineteen, just a few weeks before the

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<v Speaker 1>novel coronavirus emerged in Wuhan, China, Gilbert's team began a

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<v Speaker 1>second trial for the MERS vaccine in Saudi Arabia, where

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<v Speaker 1>most of the world's cases have been reported. Even there,

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<v Speaker 1>only about two hundred cases of MERS are reported annually,

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<v Speaker 1>so proving the vaccine works could take many months. The

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<v Speaker 1>work gave Gilbert a running start when COVID nineteen emerged.

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<v Speaker 1>The spike protein of Mirr's shares a forty percent to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty percent similarity to the spike of stars cove too,

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<v Speaker 1>says Naive al Harby, a sawty scientist who studied under

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<v Speaker 1>Gilbert at Oxford and is running the MIRRORS vaccine trials

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<v Speaker 1>in Riad. We know the chimp adinavirus is safe in humans,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been tested in humans with the Mirr's spike.

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<v Speaker 1>Given the similarities, the only question with the COVID nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine is whether it's going to be protective or not.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mirr's study was absolutely critical, says Tom Evans, chief

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<v Speaker 1>scientific officer of Vaxateech. We could say, okay, we can

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<v Speaker 1>start tomorrow. We don't have to make ten different varieties

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<v Speaker 1>of this. We knew it could be manufactured, we knew

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<v Speaker 1>it was immunogenic in humans. When she first heard about

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<v Speaker 1>the cases of pneumonia in China over the new year,

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<v Speaker 1>Gilbert was unsure how quickly it would spread. We didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what it was. Early on, she says. I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking to colleagues, thinking, yeah, as soon as the sequence

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<v Speaker 1>comes out, we'll make something. We'll test it in mice,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll show what we can do. The moment the Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>scientists published the genetic sequence of the novel coronavirus on

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<v Speaker 1>January tenth, Gilbert got to work. Oxford had an advantage

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<v Speaker 1>unusual for an academic institution, its own vaccine manufacturing facility,

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<v Speaker 1>at which it was able to quickly manufacture the shot

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<v Speaker 1>for the first phase of human trials. Gilbert arranged for

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<v Speaker 1>the next larger batch to come from Italian farmer company Advent,

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<v Speaker 1>and persuaded the university to underwrite the contract until she

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<v Speaker 1>could secure further funding. On February, her team began injecting

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<v Speaker 1>mice with a vaccine to accelerate a process that normally

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<v Speaker 1>takes months. She was performing several steps at once, testing

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<v Speaker 1>in animals, applying to regulators for human trials, and talking

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<v Speaker 1>to manufacturers. Her level of knowledge of the detail is extraordinary,

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<v Speaker 1>says Andrew McLean, who worked with her for years as

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<v Speaker 1>an investor and board member at VACKS attack. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>unusual for a scientist to know the practical parts of

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<v Speaker 1>getting a drug made and be able to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturers on a toe to toe basis. But in early

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<v Speaker 1>March Gilbert was still scrounging for money. She got a

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<v Speaker 1>small grant from the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations or

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<v Speaker 1>c e p I, a foundation set up in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen with funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation,

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<v Speaker 1>the governments of Norway in India, and the Welcome Trust,

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<v Speaker 1>a research charity based in London. It was enough to

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<v Speaker 1>keep them going Around this time, there was a debate

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<v Speaker 1>within the Gender Institute about whether to go straight into

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<v Speaker 1>human trials or wait until they got results from a

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<v Speaker 1>study of their vaccine in nine REESUS monkeys at the

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<v Speaker 1>Rocky Mountain Laboratories in Montana, part of the n I

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<v Speaker 1>A I D. They knew that in tests for a

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine against the first Stars virus, which caused an epidemic

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<v Speaker 1>in Asia in two thousand two and three, some vaccinated

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<v Speaker 1>animals became more severely ill after they were challenged with

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<v Speaker 1>the virus than unvaccinated ones did. The phenomenon is known

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<v Speaker 1>as antibody dependent enhancement or a d E. Scientists around

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<v Speaker 1>the world were worried that might happen again with the

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<v Speaker 1>Stars Cove two vaccine, and the Oxford team wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>test it in monkeys to rule it out, but time

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<v Speaker 1>was of the essence. People were dying from COVID nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>and waiting for the monkey results would mean losing crucial weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>We were doing that monkey experiment for safety and to

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<v Speaker 1>convince the pessimists that the vaccine was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>safe after infection. Hill says, the big question was when

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<v Speaker 1>you have a vaccine available, and you have people lined

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<v Speaker 1>up ready to go. Do you wait for the monkey

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<v Speaker 1>results to vaccinate them? They decided to play it safe

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<v Speaker 1>and wait, while pressing ahead with planning the trials, setting

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<v Speaker 1>up manufacturing, and looking for more money. On March twenty third,

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<v Speaker 1>the same day UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson ordered the

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<v Speaker 1>country into lockdown, the government announced a two point two

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<v Speaker 1>million pound grant to Gilbert's team to support testing and manufacturing.

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<v Speaker 1>During the search for money, Bill Gates pushed Gilbert and

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<v Speaker 1>Hill to partner with a big pharmaceutical company, and as

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<v Speaker 1>a C E p I founder, he had leverage. We

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<v Speaker 1>went to Oxford and said, you are doing brilliant work,

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<v Speaker 1>Gates recalled in a call with reporters in early June.

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<v Speaker 1>You really need to team up, and we told them

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<v Speaker 1>a list of people to go and talk to. The

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<v Speaker 1>Oxford team was initially reluctant, Hill says, because they'd run

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of trials on their own. What we struggle against

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<v Speaker 1>all the time is the perception from fonders that we

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<v Speaker 1>can't do this, he says. They held talks with several

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<v Speaker 1>potential partners, whom he declined to name, asking them two questions,

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<v Speaker 1>how much can you manufacture and by when? They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>answer either of those questions, no matter how many times

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<v Speaker 1>we asked, Hill recalls astra Zenica was different. In early April,

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<v Speaker 1>Minne Pangalos, the company's head of research and development for biopharmaceuticals,

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<v Speaker 1>had been hearing positive things about Oxford's work. Although astra

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<v Speaker 1>Zenica isn't a big player in back scenes. It produces

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<v Speaker 1>a nasal flu spray vaccine, but nothing else. He thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was worth calling John Bell, an immunologist and professor

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<v Speaker 1>who directs the university's medical research strategy, to find out more.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed like they needed a partner, Pangalos recalls. I

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<v Speaker 1>called John up and said, are you interested in working

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<v Speaker 1>with us on this because we think we can help.

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<v Speaker 1>Pangalos negotiated the partnership agreement with Bell and the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the Oxford team in about ten days through a

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<v Speaker 1>flurry of zoom calls, with Gilbert walking everyone through the data.

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<v Speaker 1>Astra Zeneca agreed to be responsible for worldwide distribution and manufacturing.

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<v Speaker 1>Big money followed the announcement of the deal at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of April. As Pascal Sorrio, astra Zeneca's chief executive

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<v Speaker 1>officer pledged to make the vaccine available at only a

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<v Speaker 1>few dollars per dose. The British government gave sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>million pounds to accelerate the work and order thirty million

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<v Speaker 1>doses for the UK by September, as part of a

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<v Speaker 1>deal to make one million in total, with some reserve

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<v Speaker 1>for de heloping countries. Days later, astra Zeneca announced a

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<v Speaker 1>one point to billion dollar deal with the U s

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<v Speaker 1>Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority BARDA to develop and

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<v Speaker 1>produce three hundred million doses, one of the largest deals

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<v Speaker 1>the agency has announced. Astra Zeneca will work with the

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<v Speaker 1>National Institutes of Health to test it in thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>people in the US, scheduled to start in August. The

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<v Speaker 1>company later struck a licensing deal with the Serum Institute

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<v Speaker 1>of India to produce a billion doses for developing and

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<v Speaker 1>middle income countries. Because of expected political pressure, any country

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<v Speaker 1>with a role in the production of a vaccine might

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<v Speaker 1>act to secure doses for its own people. Astra Zeneca

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<v Speaker 1>is setting up independent supply chains within countries to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>delays at national borders. As the astro Zenica deal was

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<v Speaker 1>being finalized in mid April, the results of the monkey

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<v Speaker 1>study came through from Montana. It wasn't promising, it was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Hill says. Not only were the monkeys fine, it as

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<v Speaker 1>a bonus we saw some protection. They had vaccinated six

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<v Speaker 1>monkeys and then twenty eight days later, exposed them to

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<v Speaker 1>a massive dose of stars COVID two via multiple roots, eyes, mouth, nose,

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<v Speaker 1>and trachea to expose the lungs. It was much more

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<v Speaker 1>than a person might encounter on public transportation or even

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<v Speaker 1>in a COVID Ward after exposure, the animals showed no

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<v Speaker 1>signs of pneumonia in their lungs by all indications, They

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<v Speaker 1>felt fine. Nasal swabs, however, showed they still had the virus,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning they might be able to infect others. The study's

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<v Speaker 1>aim was to determine safety, not efficacy, so the gender

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<v Speaker 1>team was encouraged to see it provided some protection in

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<v Speaker 1>the face of an overwhelming dose of the virus. The

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<v Speaker 1>day after the preliminary results came in, a team headed

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<v Speaker 1>by Andrew Pollard, a colleague of Gilbert's, running the clinical trials,

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<v Speaker 1>started injecting people. When the full results of the monkey

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<v Speaker 1>trials were published in mid May, critics pounced seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>results as weak. William Hazeltine, a former professor at Harvard

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<v Speaker 1>Medical School who spent years researching HIV, wrote a piece

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<v Speaker 1>in Forbes arguing that the Oxford vaccine looked like it

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<v Speaker 1>would be only partially protective because it didn't generate high

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<v Speaker 1>levels of neutralizing antibodies, which defends cells against infection. What

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<v Speaker 1>happens when you have a vaccine with people running around

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<v Speaker 1>with virus spewing out of their nose. Anyone who is

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<v Speaker 1>not vaccinated or not vaccinated well is going to get infected,

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<v Speaker 1>Hazeltine told me on a zoom call. My guess is

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<v Speaker 1>the Oxford vaccine isn't going to be powerful enough for

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<v Speaker 1>older people, so they will have to boost it up,

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<v Speaker 1>and boosting it up can have side effects. On July fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>the U. S. Government released results from the safety trial

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<v Speaker 1>of another vaccine candidate from Maderna. The company's stock rose

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<v Speaker 1>sharply on news that the vaccine produced neutralizing antibodies in

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<v Speaker 1>all patients. It also produced side effects in some Maderna's vaccine,

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<v Speaker 1>produced using a technique called Messenger RNA, will go into

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<v Speaker 1>late stage trials by the end of July. Team Oxford

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<v Speaker 1>Astra Zeneca argues it's not realistic to expect clear nasal

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<v Speaker 1>swabs from monkeys after they got a whopping dose straight

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<v Speaker 1>up their noses. It doesn't need to cure you of

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<v Speaker 1>stars cove too. Astra Zeneca's Pungalow says, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if we will completely knock out shedding or people being infectious,

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<v Speaker 1>whether we're going to cure people completely, or whether we

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<v Speaker 1>will just dampen down the illness. We want a vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>to stop people from going to hospital and dying. If

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<v Speaker 1>you can do that, I think people will be pretty happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Neutralizing antibodies is one of the things you'll look at,

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<v Speaker 1>but the T cell response is going to be important.

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<v Speaker 1>Hill says the same thing. Has Alten's focus on neutralizing

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<v Speaker 1>antibodies is misplaced scientific debates aside. I was starting to

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<v Speaker 1>sense a Harvard Oxford American British rivalry playing out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>simpler to measure antibodies, it's less expensive. People do it

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, But often the antibodies are a surrogate

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<v Speaker 1>for the T cell number. Hill says, nobody knows in SARS,

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<v Speaker 1>in mers and in COVID nineteen the relative importance of

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<v Speaker 1>those two A flurry of recent research has shown that

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<v Speaker 1>T cells may play an important role in responses to

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<v Speaker 1>SARS cove two, but the only way to know the

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<v Speaker 1>most effective levels or tighters of antibodies and T cells

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<v Speaker 1>is to test the vaccine in people where the virus

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<v Speaker 1>is circulating. No one knows how strong the immune response

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be to achieve protection in people of any age.

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<v Speaker 1>Gilbert says, if we get a strong T cell response,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need such a high neutralizing antibody tighter to

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<v Speaker 1>achieve protection. The two arms of the immune response work

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<v Speaker 1>together to give better protection. The Gender Institute team is

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<v Speaker 1>taking blood samples of people in the trials that begin

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<v Speaker 1>in late April and May in the UK to measure

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<v Speaker 1>antibodies and T cell responses several weeks after vaccination, but

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<v Speaker 1>blood results can't prove it will prevent disease. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>numbers game. They're looking for very few cases of COVID

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen in people who have received the vaccine, and a

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<v Speaker 1>significantly higher number in a control group of people who haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>The better the vaccine is, the quicker you get a result,

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<v Speaker 1>and the smaller number you need. Hill says, if they

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<v Speaker 1>reach say twenty cases in the control group and eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>among the vaccinated cohort. That's not a great vaccine, and

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<v Speaker 1>they would need a lot of cases to show a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you have twenty in the control group and

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<v Speaker 1>two among the vaccinated, your home and dry, he says.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, a quicker way of figuring out if it

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<v Speaker 1>works would be to stage human challenge trials like those

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<v Speaker 1>done with the monkeys. So far, no COVID nineteen vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>developer has used to challenge trials because of ethical concerns

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<v Speaker 1>and the lack of an effective treatment for the disease.

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<v Speaker 1>That hasn't stopped more than thirty thousand people from more

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<v Speaker 1>than forty countries from registering to take part in a

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<v Speaker 1>potential challenge trial through an organization called One Day Sooner.

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<v Speaker 1>When I asked Gilbert in April what was worrying her

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<v Speaker 1>the most, she said it was going to be difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to prove the vaccine works as the virus waxes and

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<v Speaker 1>wanes around the world. In order to determine vaccine efficacy

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<v Speaker 1>for any novel coronavirus vaccine, the trial has to be

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<v Speaker 1>set up in the right place at the right time,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's very hard to predict she said, it's why

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<v Speaker 1>we're planning to do multiple trials in multiple countries. In

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<v Speaker 1>early June, as UK cases began to drop, astra Zenica

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<v Speaker 1>set up trials of the vaccine in Brazil and South Africa,

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<v Speaker 1>where the virus is surging. Producing millions, if not billions,

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<v Speaker 1>of doses of the vaccine may be the biggest challenge

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of the pharmaceutical industry. Astra Zennica is

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<v Speaker 1>signing production agreements with companies worldwide, including Oxford Biomedica, a

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<v Speaker 1>small gene and cell therapy company at ten minute drive

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<v Speaker 1>from the Gender Institute. Oxford Biomedica has agreed to produce

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<v Speaker 1>several million doses, with the potential to scale up into

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<v Speaker 1>the tens of millions if it works. James Miskin, the

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<v Speaker 1>company's chief technical officer, describes a multi step production and

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<v Speaker 1>process that sounds to my lay person's ears like a

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<v Speaker 1>cross between making a sour dough starter and boiling down

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<v Speaker 1>sap to make maple syrup. It begins with nurturing a

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<v Speaker 1>few milliliters of human embryonic kidney cells kept in a

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<v Speaker 1>frozen vial that needs to be gradually defrosted as the

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<v Speaker 1>cells are fed a sugar solution they multiply in a

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<v Speaker 1>controlled atmosphere of oxygen and carbon dioxide. Over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of a week. The mixture is moved into larger and

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<v Speaker 1>larger vessels and eventually into a two stainless steel bioreactor.

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<v Speaker 1>The master seedstock of the vaccine, which contains the adenavirus

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<v Speaker 1>with the spike protein, is added to the soupy mixture,

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<v Speaker 1>which is stirred, purified, concentrated and filtered down. Scaling the

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<v Speaker 1>process up to get to millions of doses is full

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<v Speaker 1>of unknowns, says Matthew du Chars, CEO of the UK

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<v Speaker 1>government funded Vaccines Manufacturing and Innovation Center, which is helping

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<v Speaker 1>coordinate British manufacturers. I asked him about the soured analogy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like trying to go from making a loaf of

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<v Speaker 1>sour dough in your kitchen to making a hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>sour dough pizzas he says, scale up of any process

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<v Speaker 1>is never as simple as you think it will be,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with biological material. At the end of May, Gilbert's

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<v Speaker 1>team pressed ahead with more advanced trials on more than

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand people in the UK after getting the green

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<v Speaker 1>light from an independent scientific panel that reviewed its progress

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<v Speaker 1>so far. To be ready to go, the Oxford group

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<v Speaker 1>had spent several months working with Advent, the Italian manufacturer,

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<v Speaker 1>to produce the vaccine for the large scale trials. Under

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<v Speaker 1>the eye of Stephania Di Marco, a biochemist and advanced

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<v Speaker 1>scientific director. Advance staff worked into the evenings and over

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<v Speaker 1>weekends to produce thirteen thousand doses of the vaccine at

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<v Speaker 1>a time when Italy was the epicenter of the COVID

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen pandemic. With the seed stock, they made one liters

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<v Speaker 1>of unpurified product and reduced it down to about three

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<v Speaker 1>leaders of vaccine. On May fourth, they'd finally reached the

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<v Speaker 1>stage where they could start filling glass vials with the vaccine.

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<v Speaker 1>DeMarco and about fifteen people from her team of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five gathered that evening as the filling began, with some

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<v Speaker 1>tears and hugging. We were excited, she says, this is

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<v Speaker 1>precious material. Two weeks later, after extensive checks and documentation,

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<v Speaker 1>the first shipment of the vaccine arrived in Oxford in

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<v Speaker 1>temperature controlled boxes. At the end of May, advanced batch

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<v Speaker 1>of vaccines started going into people over the age of

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five to find out if there's a variation in

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<v Speaker 1>immune responses to the shot in people of different ages.

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<v Speaker 1>How the vaccine performs in this much larger and more

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<v Speaker 1>diverse group, particularly older people, could well determine whether the

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<v Speaker 1>Oxford vaccine will help end the pandemic or whether the

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<v Speaker 1>world must continue to wait. With Vernon Silver and James Patton,

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