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Speaker 1: Oh, it is Monday, September sixteenth, twenty nineteen. It's time

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Speaker 1: for Morning Combat reavely Donk's. My name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I'm the host of this program, joined as always by

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Speaker 1: my trustee co host Brian Campbell from CBS Sports. A

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Speaker 1: lot to get to today, Brian, before we do, what

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Speaker 1: was your weekend, buddy?

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Speaker 2: You know when went down to the New Amsterdam, was

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Speaker 2: talking to this yellow haired girl and the jones stretched

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Speaker 2: up a conversation as good times.

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Speaker 1: You know. I think we have a running tally today

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Speaker 1: for your dumb nineties references. Have you seen the graphic

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Speaker 1: for that I have? Yeah, we're gonna I think we're

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Speaker 1: gonna start playing. I don't know if they deployed it

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Speaker 1: or not. I can't tell from the screen here.

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Speaker 2: But hey, don't bury the lead here at Luke, we

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Speaker 2: got big news. This show is all growns up, bro.

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Speaker 1: It is all growns up. We tried to get the

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Speaker 1: word out yesterday. I was so I was so hungover.

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Speaker 1: This is true story. Brian calls me, and I couldn't

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Speaker 1: even talk on the phone, and I was so hungover.

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Speaker 1: But the good news is I sobered up. I took

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Speaker 1: a shower, I walked my dogs and I came back.

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Speaker 1: When we made a video about it on my personal

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel. We put the word out on your Twitter

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Speaker 1: and my Twitter everywhere. We have our own YouTube channel now,

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Speaker 1: which you're probably watching this on. I'm gonna be some

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Speaker 1: growing pains to start. We got a bill. You know,

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Speaker 1: Rome wasn't built in a day, Brian Campbell, but it

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Speaker 1: gives us a lot of options to do a lot

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Speaker 1: of different things, including just more volume. Right so you

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Speaker 1: can take the show, all the different clips and you

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Speaker 1: can come right here for it. You know, we appreciate

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Speaker 1: Brendan Schaub letting a squat on his couch the last

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Speaker 1: two months, but it's time we got our own place

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Speaker 1: out in the city.

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Speaker 2: It's from the Armageddon bomb Shelter to the bomb Diggity.

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Speaker 2: This show is coming because we tell it like it

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Speaker 2: is and how it could be, right how it was,

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Speaker 2: and of course how it should be. No punch is pulled,

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Speaker 2: no protecting sponsors. This is the real deal right here.

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Speaker 1: We're protecting sponsors. Who are you protecting?

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Speaker 2: I got dynamic fasteners online one here we're pending right now.

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Speaker 1: Condom depot you see, bang Bros. We'll move on for this.

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Speaker 1: Do you see Bangbros. Put in a ten million dollar

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Speaker 1: bit to rename the Miami Heat Arena.

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Speaker 2: That that's spectacular.

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Speaker 1: I love everything. I honestly, whatever team ends up doing that,

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Speaker 1: if even as a minor league team, that's my new

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Speaker 1: favorite team.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to shout out to the fans for

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Speaker 2: loving MK Ultra.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Our whole crew now is lounging, celebrating every day. No

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Speaker 2: more in public housing unfortunately, but the show is still

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Speaker 2: bringing that lot to talk about this week. It's a

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Speaker 2: wild weekend of combat.

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Speaker 1: Sports certainly was a lot to get to. All Right,

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Speaker 1: boys and girls, let's do it. First up, Brian Campbell,

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Speaker 1: Justin Gatgee wins in the main event at UFC Vancouver

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Speaker 1: on ESPN Plus. It not only was a nice victory,

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Speaker 1: it not only was his third victory in a row,

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Speaker 1: it was his third victory in a row via first

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Speaker 1: round stoppage. He has now defeated Brian. Let's see James

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Speaker 1: Vick first round stoppage, Edson Barbosa first round stoppage, and

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Sarony first round stoppage. Now, if you want it

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Speaker 1: to be an a hole, and I'm not saying you

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Speaker 1: do I'm using the I'm using the.

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Speaker 2: Proverbial U, I give those vibes off.

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Speaker 1: Just no, no, no, I'm merely introducing as a way to

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Speaker 1: frame the argument. Always going to be people that no

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Speaker 1: matter how many wins you get, they say, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: you know, Cowboys up and down, Edson's on the downside,

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Speaker 1: and James Vick already left the division. What does that

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Speaker 1: really mean? So the question would be how good is

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Speaker 1: Justin Gaegee. Now, for folks who are maybe new to this,

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Speaker 1: I do a second segment just by myself called dissector,

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Speaker 1: where I look at some film, some multimedia evidence to

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Speaker 1: see what we can glean from that. And I do

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Speaker 1: think having some managed expectations about this are important. Yes,

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Speaker 1: James Vick is talented, but he did leave the division.

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Speaker 1: Edson Borbosa is probably not in his prime, and certainly

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Thrown is an incredible competitor, but he's always a

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Speaker 1: little bit up and down at times. However, it's not

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Speaker 1: fair to say anything other than Justin Gaechee, while not reborn,

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Speaker 1: is certainly reformed. To me, he is absolutely a top

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Speaker 1: five talent, if not higher. And here's really the key

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Speaker 1: to the whole situation. We'll let you get your perspective,

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Speaker 1: because I showed a bunch of stuff, but as just

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Speaker 1: a general way to understand what's happened, Justin Gaigee is

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Speaker 1: still very much justin Gaechee, Which is to say, does

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Speaker 1: he throw leg kicks yes? Does he throw great punches

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Speaker 1: in the dirty boxing clinch, yes? Does he still have

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Speaker 1: a hammer of a left hook? Yes? Does he throw

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Speaker 1: not with reckless abandon but like with consistent offense.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, he still try to eat men's souls. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: All the things that makes him good and all the

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Speaker 1: weapons that he likes, they're still there. But everything else

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Speaker 1: around it, from the footwork to the entries to the exits. Dude,

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Speaker 1: he's cleaned up so much of that it's turned him

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Speaker 1: into something of a sniper of sorts. His timing he shows, like,

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Speaker 1: how are you able to beat Barboza and Vic and

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Speaker 1: Serroni with these kill shots? Because his timing is impeccable.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's like always power is great. Yes, of course it is,

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Speaker 1: but it's aided by ridiculous timing. Dude, he is a

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Speaker 1: force to be reckoned. With the World Series of Fighting,

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Speaker 1: Gaischee is no more.

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell, I think you're right and Professor Salt and

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Speaker 2: Pepper alb or Spinderella to break this down. But when

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Speaker 2: we thought Gags Gee, when he hit that crossroads and

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Speaker 2: we said it's time for a change. What that crossroads

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Speaker 2: was consecutive knockouts. Where are you going to be a

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Speaker 2: true elite contender in this game? Are you going to

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Speaker 2: be mm's version of Arturo God? Which is fine, You

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Speaker 2: walking downcoming traffic and sort of sell your fighting soul

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Speaker 2: to a degree, because that's just how you get down.

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Speaker 2: I think for me personally, knowing his wrestling background, I

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Speaker 2: always thought his evolution or or just to change himself

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Speaker 2: to Salvage's career was gonna come through abstinence from banging.

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Speaker 2: It was gonna come from wrestling and mixing it up instead.

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Speaker 2: You know what he's doing. He's taking what he does

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Speaker 2: best and he's just ironing it out just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: We've all had those girlfriends in college. You can't domesticate them.

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Speaker 2: You want to, you want to bring a home to mom,

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Speaker 2: You can't because they're the here to bang. And this

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Speaker 2: is ultimately what Caseg did. Only he says, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: bit more crafty. Still, the animal still has power. And

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Speaker 2: you asked me off the top before you went on

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Speaker 2: a somewhat long winded five minute start to the show,

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Speaker 2: but I'm sure that viewers enjoyed it. You said, what

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Speaker 2: is he now? He's a legitimate title contender. Now, I

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Speaker 2: don't care where those guys went after he knocked him out.

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Speaker 2: Each of those three fights were important for him to

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Speaker 2: sort of declare, who are you just engaging? You know

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Speaker 2: what he is. He's a smart and powerful, legitimate title

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Speaker 2: I want to see him against everybody?

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Speaker 1: You would have thought, what a guy like that, and

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Speaker 1: like anybody who comes into the game can get better, right,

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Speaker 1: change teams or just refocus or there's always ways to improve.

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Speaker 1: But you would have thought a guy who had a

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Speaker 1: one way to fight. Maybe you can give him a

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Speaker 1: bit of a different weapons to your point, throw a

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Speaker 1: little wrestling there, mix it up. Maybe give us a

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Speaker 1: good ground to pound, but you know that wild brawling

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Speaker 1: that just off balance, swinging, Well, that's really who he is.

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Speaker 1: And it turns out it's actually really not who he is.

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Speaker 1: What he is is a guy. Yes he likes to

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Speaker 1: can be so much more like he's light on his feet,

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Speaker 1: just feel like, oh, they're a brawler for life. That's

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Speaker 1: their peak. It just turned out he was a very good,

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Speaker 1: below his potential, just in a way that was really exciting.

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Speaker 1: He actually made a point as well when the ESPN

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Speaker 1: postfight show, saying, you know, I'd be done with these

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Speaker 1: other fights, even the ones I want, I'd just be exhausted.

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Speaker 1: He's not tired at all. Yes, they're going, you know,

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Speaker 1: not far past the first round, but just that style,

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Speaker 1: With the second and third round if anyone can ever

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, Okay, he's looked great, but who would be next?

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Speaker 1: Would it be a Connor McGregor would it be a

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Speaker 1: Dustin Parier? Would it be the winner of Tony versus Habib?

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Speaker 1: Now Connor, as he is wont to do after all

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Speaker 1: these events, gets out there on social media and MMA

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Speaker 2: Some of us work for those.

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Speaker 1: Turn it. I get it, I got bills to pay.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not above it. Turn it into trapp

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Speaker 1: that's what it is, turning into trafficked, and it magnifies

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. So we don't know if Tony's gonna

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Speaker 1: fight Habie, but it seems possible at least within twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: maybe early a first quarter of twenty twenty. Does a

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Speaker 1: partier coming off that loss, He's out in the open.

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Speaker 1: Connor's kind of out in the open as well. Those

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Speaker 1: two can get matched up. He's tweeting out here Dublin December,

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Speaker 1: of course. I think he December fourteenth. That show is

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Speaker 1: supposed to be at t Mobile here's the thing, Rono

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Speaker 1: pitches to you. Can they do a show in Dublin?

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Speaker 1: Should they do a show between Gayschee and Connor? Given

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Speaker 1: that they already pulled one show from T Mobile, they

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Speaker 1: have to give him a certain number each year following Jones.

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Speaker 1: Gus what do you think.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure about the internal details of an MGM

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Speaker 2: grand T Mobile deal in terms of fill in dates,

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Speaker 2: but they move the John Jones show in such unprecedented

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Speaker 2: fashion and Christmas Week on six days notice from Vegas

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Speaker 2: to la. If you're going to put Conor McGregor in

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Speaker 2: you can pretty much make comparable money and make this

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Speaker 2: an event. I think you do that. I wouldn't want

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Speaker 2: to see gatesge against anyone coming off a loss, except

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Speaker 2: for Connor McGregor, because we know that's a super Bowl

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Speaker 2: that's the equivalent of a title opportunity, and right now

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Speaker 2: he is a title contender legitimately. But that line is

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Speaker 2: long at the top, Tony Ferguson at the head of that.

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Speaker 2: We know this is an all killer division. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to see him against Pouria now because Pooria just

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Speaker 2: come off a loss, it's time for gays get to

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Speaker 2: trend upwards. And Connor's the only step back that's still

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Speaker 2: a forward step because of his name. And that fight

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Speaker 2: screams so much chaos, so much violence, so much drama.

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Speaker 2: It's so damn intriguing. Gates, She's almost too good though,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's great. Let's but there's there's some there's some uh,

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Speaker 2: You stole fizzy lifting dreams. You bumped into the ceiling

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Speaker 1: I'm so sad. No, I'm with you, Like, if you

427
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Speaker 1: want to go fight, go fight. Here's what I don't understand.

428
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Speaker 1: People are mad at him because he missed weight. Fine,

429
00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,880
Speaker 1: he only missed it by two pounds, which is not great,

430
00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,320
Speaker 1: but it's not the end of the world. But as

431
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Speaker 1: far as I understand it, what they're meant about is

432
00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,480
Speaker 1: a guy basically took entertainment irrespective of the necessity to

433
00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,560
Speaker 1: fight a little too serious everything else winning. I get it.

434
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Speaker 1: I get it. So he does that, he misses way

435
00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,439
Speaker 1: and he gets beaten by a guy who has a

436
00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,840
Speaker 1: hard scrabble story from check Matt Vancouver, who's been grinding forever,

437
00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,560
Speaker 1: who got a shot last minute, basically had to fight

438
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Speaker 1: a bigger opponent, wins and gets one hundred grand. So

439
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,959
Speaker 1: let me see if I understand it. The guy you

440
00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,600
Speaker 1: don't like for things he did loses. All the money

441
00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,280
Speaker 1: goes to the guy you do like, who now has

442
00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,439
Speaker 1: a great story. We're being told, what's the.

443
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Speaker 2: Problem hashtag war connolly, that's what the problem?

444
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Speaker 1: Where is where is the downside? The guy you hate

445
00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,040
Speaker 1: got screwed by his own miss that misdeeds. Case closed.

446
00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,120
Speaker 1: This is natural selection working itself out harm.

447
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Speaker 2: A bit him in the ass. And that's why I

448
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,399
Speaker 2: hate taking this stance, because I wanted to do get

449
00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,520
Speaker 2: shot in the face with the ebola like he lost.

450
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Speaker 2: I'm a show me style guy. I'm doing borderline Michelle

451
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,120
Speaker 2: Pidata stuff in this damn show. But I'm about delivering

452
00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,360
Speaker 2: the truth in the analysis. He wasn't about winning that night,

453
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,399
Speaker 2: so imact like he got.

454
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Speaker 1: Some like weird decision that the judges gave to him.

455
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Speaker 1: He lost, He lost. All that stuff backfired, and the

456
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 1: only person who has to pay.

457
00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:17,760
Speaker 2: The cost is him.

458
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Speaker 1: What are you? What are you worried about? It's like

459
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Speaker 1: me watching somebody squirming through traffic. They hit another car.

460
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 1: I get to keep going. It's not like I got

461
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Speaker 1: stuck in traffic. Hey sucked for you? Ask wipe. Don't

462
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 1: ride people's bumpers from now on. Lesson learned. Honk honk.

463
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be home in five Fuck that guy. What

464
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,399
Speaker 1: are you worried about? What are you worried about?

465
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Speaker 2: How do I follow that? Wow?

466
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just see if you will online. I can't

467
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Speaker 1: believe this man's a lack of professionalism. I'm like, you

468
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Speaker 1: realize his lack of it wasn't like who was the

469
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Speaker 1: actress Seph Felicity Huffman who she got She bribed her

470
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Speaker 1: way to get her kids in the college. The kids

471
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Speaker 1: got into college. Imagine trying to bribe your way. Yeah yeah, house,

472
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Speaker 1: So imagine trying to bribe your way to get your

473
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 1: kids in the college. Not only do they still get rejected,

474
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Speaker 1: you lose out the money and then you go to jail.

475
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Speaker 1: That's what happened.

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Speaker 2: She's kind of worrying about aunt. Becky's kind of a

477
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Speaker 2: kugar low key right there.

478
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Speaker 1: But I saw that, I saw people getting Dude, you

479
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 1: know what would have sucked if he had got somehow

480
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Speaker 1: gotten one over on the guy.

481
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 2: But he lost, So it sucks.

482
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Speaker 1: He lost in every way.

483
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Speaker 2: Look the greats, the out of Sonia's, the younger McGregor,

484
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 2: the at times John Jones, the MVP Michael Page. They

485
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 2: can mix in the ridiculous, the video game, the Anderson Silva.

486
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 2: They can mix in those moments in the flow of

487
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Speaker 2: what they're doing, beating assid and winning the fight. This

488
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 2: guy took it way over the line. Yeah, karma bit

489
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Speaker 2: him in the ass. He paid for it, Okay, So

490
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Speaker 2: what do we do in the show. We give them

491
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Speaker 2: hot takes, you know, and I don't want to see

492
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Speaker 2: this anymore.

493
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Speaker 1: It's really what the hot takes should be, like you

494
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Speaker 1: got served. It shouldn't be what a disgrace like, dude.

495
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Speaker 1: The the nature of the combative action took care of itself.

496
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Speaker 1: The system worked, Like what do you want me to

497
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Speaker 1: say again? If he had won, if he been doing

498
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Speaker 1: that dancing and scored some kind of knockout or the

499
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Speaker 1: judges had weirdly given it to If he had got

500
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 1: the bonus money, I'd be with you. He lost every

501
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 1: single step of the way, and people were like, I'm

502
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: so bitter about what he got served.

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Speaker 2: He kind of embarrassed the credibility of the sports. Did

504
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Speaker 2: he even though his kids the pain and people with

505
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: tattoos all over their face? Yeah? I think he did.

506
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Speaker 2: I think he did. Okay, all right, there is there

507
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 2: is a line, right, bousheta is a real thing.

508
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Speaker 1: Right maybe? All right? Uh, you know what I want

509
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: to ask you about stand out UFC Vancouver performers. How

510
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Speaker 1: about this guy Tristan Connolly, biggest underdog and by the way,

511
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Speaker 1: Michelle Pereira like whatever else you want to say about him,

512
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Speaker 1: dude is crazy athletic obviously, his ups are just insane,

513
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Speaker 1: and he was doing all that capawaa stuff. He was

514
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Speaker 1: also so big compared to Connolly. Conley went in there,

515
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Speaker 1: man and just kind of just stuck it to him,

516
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Speaker 1: working like kind.

517
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Speaker 2: Of clownship to bell tour. That's the that's the the

518
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Speaker 2: gist of where I'm going.

519
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Speaker 1: That's fine. Here's what I would say. There's a part

520
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 1: of Mma that people like that's just about showmanship. And

521
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Speaker 1: your point is the best ones involved some showmanship with winning. Okay, well,

522
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: maybe he's not one of the best ones. There's still

523
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Speaker 1: a market for that for a certain kind of audience.

524
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Speaker 1: Hashtag rise in hashtag. Maybe somebody plays else have him

525
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 1: go there fine in the octagon, I think is the

526
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Speaker 1: issue stand up performers. Though Tristan Connelly looked good to me,

527
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Speaker 1: obviously for the reasons we're articulating. How about getting back

528
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Speaker 1: to his winning ways with peruvia necktick.

529
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Speaker 2: He's had some losses that had to be catnecked for you.

530
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Speaker 1: It was that proven neck has a great one. But

531
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Speaker 1: here's my point, more than that, this is the guy

532
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Speaker 1: whos had some losses. I was kind of surprised by

533
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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, Jimmy crud I took quite seriously

534
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Speaker 1: in this one. He's looked really good since coming off

535
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Speaker 1: the Contender series. Boy, I was very amazed by circling

536
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Speaker 1: off Big Strong got back after it. He's got really

537
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Speaker 1: unique ability. I'm curious to see more from him. How

538
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Speaker 1: about you.

539
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Speaker 2: I like clover Tshera. He'd put some three pieces together.

540
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Speaker 2: He look good, not washed yet, still a rock and

541
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Speaker 2: incredible contender, but Tod Duffy back after like fifteen years,

542
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Speaker 2: he did he quit? I think he quit.

543
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Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. No, Amir Khan quit, Amir

544
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Speaker 1: con quit. But also so let's say he did and

545
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: it was a fight.

546
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 2: He was winning and was and was looking good because

547
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: it was a sloppy Todd Duffy fight and he in

548
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 2: the slop was there.

549
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: But he athletes should be allowed to quit without stigma.

550
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Speaker 1: I don't want to do it anymore. It's okay, fine, good, all.

551
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: Right, all right, But I'm just saying and that you

552
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 2: you wait this long to get in here, through illnesses

553
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 2: and injuries, you're kind of beating this dude. You're looking good,

554
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: finished the job. Look, DC was biting the inside of

555
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: his lip because he wanted to say that broke quick.

556
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,479
Speaker 1: He wanted to He probably did, But to me, it

557
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: was like, I don't think it's this clear cut of

558
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Speaker 1: a case. And I don't care if he did. And

559
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Speaker 1: Amir Khan was the one. He was like, my ball's hurt.

560
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm just Bud Crawford's too good, and my test to

561
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Speaker 1: Clea's hurt. Baby please yeah, So okay, So any any

562
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Speaker 1: stand up performer I guess tid Duffy for you, No

563
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Speaker 1: somebody else, No, no golover to share he last question

564
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Speaker 1: about that on to share up? Is he hurting the

565
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: division because you got all these young guys coming up

566
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Speaker 1: and they're making it competitive and interesting at times, but

567
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Speaker 1: he keeps winning, he's lingering, he's he's hurt and all

568
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 1: these young whipper snappers, including Misha Serkonoff trying to come up, the.

569
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: Rosley and MMA and UFC. You're allowed to take l's

570
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 2: and learn from them and bounce back. So maybe it's

571
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 2: a necessary operate. Maybe he's weeding out the Maybe this

572
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: is natural selection.

573
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it is right. You just can't beat the old man.

574
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 1: You can't beat the old man, all right? Yeah, we

575
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 1: moved now to boxing. It was a huge boxing fight

576
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Yes, indeed, what camer I'm looking at? Uh?

577
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury back to action? Yes he did. He took

578
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Speaker 1: on Auto Voleen and ooh, this got a little bit

579
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: more competitive than people realized. He takes a I think

580
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: it was a left hook in the corner, gets a

581
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Speaker 1: huge gash, then gets through the course of the fight

582
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Speaker 1: a secondary one on top of the eyelid, and then Voleen,

583
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Speaker 1: who kind of made it, you know, scrappy affair to

584
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: an extent to the course of the fight. Puts it

585
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Speaker 1: on Tyson Fury in the twelfth I legitimately thought he

586
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Speaker 1: was gonna get I don't know if close to his stoppage,

587
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: but Fury, Fury little he was having at rough that time.

588
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: All right, what is the lesson from this? If you

589
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: had to think about what you what was your big

590
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: takeaway from Fury, who, by the way, gets the unanimous decision. Nod.

591
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: The fight is still on with Deontay Wilder all things considered.

592
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: But what did you learn from this? Brian?

593
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 2: You want to take a knee jerk feeling and I

594
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: get it to try to be like see Fury. This

595
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 2: is why you don't take two in between fights, right,

596
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 2: Tom Schwartz and now out of Aileen, Who the hell

597
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 2: are these guys? We want to see the rematch against Wilder,

598
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: so you could I see where you could say that.

599
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: But Fury got through so much. This was a halacious fight.

600
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: It was a fight in which tactically he sort of

601
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Speaker 2: dominated in the second half. Yet that presence of that

602
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: fight being close to being stopped at any point, I

603
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: mean Terrence. Bud Crawford tweeted out, if it was any

604
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: other fight, or that fight's getting stopped, and you think

605
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: about we have the unbeaten lineal heavyweight champion of the world.

606
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Speaker 2: Some people don't recognize or care about lineal guys like me. No,

607
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: it's the only currency that truly matters in this alphabet

608
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 2: area era. So he's holding on to something there. The

609
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 2: wilder fight. The big paydays are dangling in the balance

610
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: along with his unbeaten record, and Fury digs in and

611
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: really has to back up all the wild words he

612
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 2: always says. Every interview is off the rails and wild.

613
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: We talked last week. He hung up on me on

614
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Speaker 2: my podcast.

615
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: Told me he didn't he didn't know the name of

616
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Speaker 1: his opponent when he was on my show.

617
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Speaker 2: Told me him about or out banging prostitutes. I mean,

618
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: he just says wacky stuff at all times. But he

619
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: always says, I'm a fighting man. I'll fight to the death.

620
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: That's all I know, that's all I do. And some

621
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: of us at times laugh at that because his style

622
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: is so technical. It's switching stances, it's speed, it's agility.

623
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Speaker 2: For a six foot nine fighter, that's just not normal.

624
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: So what did he have to do in this fight

625
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: from the third round on, knowing it could be stopped

626
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: and he would lose by Tko at any point, he had

627
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Speaker 2: to dig in there and be the seeker, the hunter,

628
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: the puncher. And more than that, he did some slight,

629
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Speaker 2: sly things that we never see him do. He's six

630
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Speaker 2: foot nine and has a height, reach and weight advantage

631
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Speaker 2: on almost anybody he fights, and he was actually using

632
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Speaker 2: that Vladimir Klitschko style leaning on Valein wearing down his

633
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 2: gas tank. So in the end, do you want him

634
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 2: to have two ridiculously bad cuts that need forty stitches

635
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: each when you're five months away from a while the rematch?

636
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Speaker 1: No?

637
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: But do you want him to actually get a test

638
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Speaker 2: and actually for his own heart know that he had

639
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: to back up everything he said he was and he

640
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: did and it produced an exciting fight. And yes, we

641
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: rightfully so complained about the matchmaking. Why are you two

642
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 2: gimme fights last year? Why do you need two more

643
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 2: this year? You know what it proved you gotta watch

644
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: every heavyweight fight because when that division has players that

645
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 2: you care about, it's exciting. And I think Fury actually

646
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: gains from this experience in the long run, Luke, because

647
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: he may get in there with Wilder again and it

648
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: may get hairy again, and he may not get knocked

649
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: down again and have to get back up, and he

650
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: may have to fight his way out of trouble, and

651
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: you go through this type of experience. You can't mimic

652
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: this in the gym loop.

653
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: I see this totally the opposite way, which is to say,

654
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Speaker 1: I take your point about Volley, and he put on

655
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: about as good of a fight as I think he

656
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: could have career night for what we knew about him,

657
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: And here we are talking about him. He did well

658
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: again that twelfth round. He put it on Tyson Fury

659
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: the rest of the fight with the cut, notwithstanding, I

660
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: don't know exactly how close it was. How did you

661
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: score it? By the way, do you remember? Yeah?

662
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: I think I had lovely.

663
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: That's how I had it as well. In any event,

664
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Speaker 1: here's what I would say about it. This is a

665
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: lesson to every heavyweight out there. If you don't take

666
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: the fights that you know you're supposed to take, if

667
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: you don't give the fans what they want to see,

668
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna get one of these nights where yes, Tyson

669
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: Fury won, but that cut, forget the five months that's

670
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: now permanent scar tissue. That's going to be on his eye.

671
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: And you don't think someone who throws bombs like Deontay

672
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: Wilder is gonna be out there he's gonna be targeting

673
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: his jaw anyway. Every opponent from now one, he's gonna

674
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: be like Nick diazhere, they're gonna go and target that

675
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: because it's hard to heal properly. In fact, it never

676
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: really does all that well.

677
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: I've seen Sean Porter up close. He's got them all

678
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: over there.

679
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: They have They look like they've been hit with like

680
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: barbed wire. And you talk about how Tyson Fury had

681
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: to back up all of his talk, which he did.

682
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: I agree, he didn't need to prove anything. We already

683
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Speaker 1: knew he was that good.

684
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: For somebody didn't. We didn't know he could dig in

685
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: the trenches and.

686
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 1: Doolutely Deontay Wilder did to him.

687
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: The difference getting up off the canvaswl in there all right.

688
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: I understand he didn't even have to brawl. He was

689
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: doing a lot of smother which we talked about. I

690
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 1: always knew Tyson Fury had this in him. Here's what

691
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: he did by taking this fight. He wasted everyone's time,

692
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: He wasted his time, and he gets drained with this

693
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: experience he didn't need to get drained from. He risked

694
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: losing it all on a freaking left hook in the

695
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: corner that, by the way, didn't even rock him and

696
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: just cut him open. They were perilously that close to

697
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: losing everything he had built and for what to be

698
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: the guy now that no one knows, which we now

699
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: know because he made him self look good and blah

700
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. It was a waste. This is

701
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: the lesson. You want to take these fights with people

702
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to be taking fights with, when you

703
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: know you're supposed to be fighting Deontay Wilder a second

704
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: time or whoever any of the other big names, then

705
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: this is the risk you run, and this is what

706
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna get. You took punishment for no reason. You

707
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: have risked your Now this this cut on your eye

708
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: permanently for no reason. Uh, you get what you earned?

709
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: You get what you earned. Is my attitude make the fight.

710
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: I may make the fights that the people want to see,

711
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: that the sport deserves. That you said you would do

712
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: and if you don't, God help you, because the Andy Ruisons,

713
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: which is a bit of a different scenario, I understand,

714
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: and the Auto Vollians they're gonna go in there and

715
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna give you everything they got and

716
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: you don't need to take that just to keep busy,

717
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: do what you're supposed to do.

718
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: That's that fired the hell, by the way.

719
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: And that's true for Deontay Wilder too. I know he's

720
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: got a big fight against Luise Wert's and here's the

721
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: scary part about that. Of all the fights that these

722
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: big guys have, Wilder versus Ortiz, dude, that might be

723
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: the most competitive of all of them. And I know

724
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 1: he's got the win over And I'm just saying, it's like,

725
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: I am gonna be watching this fight now, biting my

726
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: finger nails, being like, what's gonna happen? Are we actually

727
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: gonna get Fury too? Because these guys are all dancing around.

728
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: I think the answer, though, is in the middle of

729
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: what we both talked about, like you wouldn't want this,

730
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: but Fury's gonna benefit from that experience, I think in

731
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: the long run.

732
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Speaker 1: I look, there's no doubt he came out of that

733
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: and me being like, Wow, that du can box his

734
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: ass off, because against who's the other guy, Tom Schwartz

735
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: was that his name. He was doing all the shoulder

736
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: rolling and the duck in and the dodge, and he

737
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: looks phenomenal. And this one dude he had to just

738
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: be smart about not slick movement, but about just careful

739
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: decisions about close contact and how what punches you through

740
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: and in what ways and constantly being on a horse.

741
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: Duoe Tyson Fury can box his ass off. I just

742
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: I just kind of feel like I already knew that.

743
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: Well. I think this was a warning. I don't think

744
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: he was in top shape. And his dad came out

745
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: and made some you know, rough comments about the whole team,

746
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: about the trainer, Ben Davidson. There there having a firing

747
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: back and forth, you know, Big John Fury, this guy,

748
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: this guy will let his mind go. But uh, Fury

749
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: Tyson didn't seehim in the top level of shape. Maybe

750
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: this is a wake up call, in a warning. How

751
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: about no more in betweens and if you have to

752
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: take it seriously and get the guy out.

753
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, last thing about this, what did you make of ESPN?

754
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: They had Joe Tessa Tour and I think it was

755
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: andre Ward.

756
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: And Bernardo Sooner was the silent.

757
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: Who's the other commentation? Tim Bradley, And they asked so

758
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: Sooner to go to the corner and ask him, are

759
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: you aware of what caused the cut? And they had

760
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: thought it was a head butt versus a cut or

761
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: a punch. Now, if it's a punch, and they stopped

762
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: the fight. Otto Vaalen wins. If it's a head butt,

763
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: they go to the scorecards. They thought it was a

764
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: head butt. The ESPN broadcasting booth corrects him and tells

765
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 1: him exactly what it is. Is it the Is it

766
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: the role of the broadcaster to inform the corners that way?

767
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Let's flip this to like the NBA. Okay,

768
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: if the coach in the huddles like Lebron you got

769
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: you got three falls? We gotta be careful. Oh no,

770
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: in real life he has five files? Is the ES

771
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: and sideline report are going to run over, tap the

772
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: coach on the shoulder and say, coach, just to let

773
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: you know the read the scorekeeper said it wrong. Actually

774
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: it's fight. No, like we'd be like, what the hell

775
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: are you doing? This is not their responsibility. What would

776
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: have happened if the ref said one thing or they

777
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: misinterpreted that. I'm not really sure what happens to the

778
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: fight would have been stopped. If it was stopped, but

779
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: it's up to them to know that. And this definitely

780
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: feel like it went too far.

781
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: Agreed they did.

782
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: And the ESPN broadcast in general, to be honest, co's

783
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: too far and hammering down our throats. How great Fury

784
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: or Lomachenko or Bud Crawford ark, you know what, guess

785
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 2: what we know how great they are. Let them show us,

786
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: don't tell us.

787
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: You have to let the competitors work with misinformation, right

788
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: when you have somebody who was it did the guy

789
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: calling the time out in the end of the of

790
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: the Chris Weber? Chris Webber calling it at the timeout

791
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: and then of course the whole thing collapses because he

792
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: has bad information. They have to know the good information

793
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: on their own terms. They have to come to it

794
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: on their own terms. Telling them is inappropriate.

795
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: My judge Luke saying, know your role, Get off my lawn.

796
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: Michelle Paeda right.

797
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: With off you kids, All right, With that out of

798
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: the way, so there is still UFC come up this

799
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: weekend shouts to my friend Dani Sigura who's in Mexico City. Fact,

800
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: the UFC's gonna be there. UFC in Mexico City in

801
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: the main event, Jeremy Stevens taking on your Ear Rodriguez,

802
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: And the question is, yeah, you're still young coming off

803
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: that great win over the Korean zombie, although he was

804
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: losing for huge majorities of that fight, but you know,

805
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: KO of the Year contender, finish of the year of

806
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: the decade. Maybe it was unbelievable. It's his first fight

807
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: since then. The question is can he still be with

808
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: the UFC wants him to be. After he had the

809
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: falling out, he comes back, takes his fight, has a

810
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: spectacular KO, and there's been I don't think he's fault

811
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: once this year. There should be his first fight in

812
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and I don't know's here's my answer to that.

813
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: It's still the jury still out a little bit, and

814
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the Stevens win gets him other

815
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: than one thing. One thing. You know how Dana White

816
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: always talks about Hafel Dosanjos. For him, he's like Dosanjos

817
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: is mean, nasty, technical, can do it all. If you

818
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: can beat that guy that tells me you're pretty elite.

819
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: If you look at Jeremy Stevens, you look at the

820
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: guys he's beaten, there's some pretty good names. You look

821
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: at the guys he's lost to, there's some great names

822
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: in that one. I'm not saying the situations are identical,

823
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: but I have great deal of respect for Jeremy Stevens.

824
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: Big power, arguably the best ground and pound in the sport,

825
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: irrespective of weight class, always comes prepared, has fought a

826
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: wide diversity of opponents. By the way, we talked about

827
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: Justin Gatche making some changes. I think you can look

828
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: at the course of Steven's career and you can point

829
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: two again. I'm not saying the same ones, but real

830
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: development over time. To me, I'm gonna treat this the

831
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: way Dana White treats haf Al dos Angos. I don't

832
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: know if Jario Rodriguez can beat Jeremy Stevens. I will

833
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: say this if he does. To me, Korean Zombie might

834
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: be the people that like and appreciate more. But that

835
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: was a I don't call it a fluke because he

836
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: threw it and it landed, but he was losing that

837
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: fight up to that point. If you can go in

838
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: there and you can demonstrably show you're better than Jeremy Stevens.

839
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: To me, the title hopes to become something real, they

840
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: would very much be in play.

841
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. And look, he's only twenty six years old

842
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: and he only has the one loss in the octagon

843
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: to Frankie Edgar and a fight that at the time

844
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: Frankie had better products sort of humbled him a little bit.

845
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: He was kind of given again by this performance against

846
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: Korean Zombie in the way that he won it a

847
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: little bit fluky, a little bit lucky. The gift is

848
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: that you came out of there with a w. Now

849
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: your main eventing in Mexico City. This is a big

850
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: opportunity for his brand. But even more important it's can

851
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: he learn how to win fights without having to rally,

852
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: without having to be spectacular? Can he learn some of

853
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: these adjustments and wrinkles to his game? This is the showcase.

854
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: This is kind of a now or never opportunity. Steven's

855
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: that perfect foil that banger. I know Stevens has improved

856
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: as well what you mentioned, but yeah, here is a

857
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: better fighter. He can and in some way he should

858
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: win this, and if he does, he's going to be

859
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: legit and have a chance to live up to that lofty,

860
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: you know, idea of what they thought he could be.

861
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: Where would that put him in the division in your mind,

862
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: Let's say second round submission or something.

863
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 2: I mean, he'd be pretty he'd be up pretty high.

864
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: It'd be big.

865
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: You think he'd bet pretty high. We still have to

866
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: see or take abounds back and show us who he is.

867
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: So does Ortega hanging out there? Obviously? Volkanowsky is going

868
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: to be next. Maxis your champion. I don't have the

869
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: rankings in front of me, but there's not too too

870
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: many people. I mean, Aldo's still kind of hanging out

871
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: there as well. I guess that's what Yarira doesn't have, right,

872
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: he doesn't have that. It's hard to even all these

873
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: many months later, what the win over the Korean Zombie

874
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: makes because the Korean Zombie has already fought at the

875
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: UCEE Greenvale and he got right back to work, you

876
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so I think people still

877
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: kind of feel like if they did it, like if

878
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: they did it again, if your ear fought Korean Zombie again,

879
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: who would you bet on? You probably bet I don't

880
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: want to speak for you, but I'm guessing old TKZ right.

881
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: It'd be a pick and fight.

882
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: Really you think so?

883
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: I do think so.

884
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. If I agree with that,

885
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: I would still probably go TKZ.

886
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: This is really your's chance to show us. But I

887
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: like this card beyond this, you care about some of

888
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:29,959
Speaker 2: these matches.

889
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: What you think? You know?

890
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: I bang for strawweights, and I like Esparzo against Alexa Grosso.

891
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 2: It's not a bad fight. But I like when you

892
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: dig deep. You know, it's like you're at Cumberland Farms.

893
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: You see what's on the rollers, you dig in the back.

894
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: They got that? No, I don't know that French toast

895
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 2: one with the with the scrambled French.

896
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: Toast from a gas station.

897
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: You are truly a right certain things that like you're like.

898
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: Rocket from Guardians of the Galaxy, a raccoon come to life.

899
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: Ifre's certain things in life where the experience is so good,

900
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 2: the less you try to think about what you're actually

901
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: doing and just enjoy it, you gotta roll with it.

902
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: Bet you go, hey, I'm back.

903
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: Know that she really on the scar?

904
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: So hor are you? Banks kind of liked that fight

905
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: at Bamley.

906
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: Ah, that is interesting. I did not know she is that.

907
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: On the prelims of that's on the early early prelims.

908
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 2: You may have to log into Facebook for the show.

909
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: I did not know that. That is an interesting one.

910
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,479
Speaker 1: All right. Well, UCU returns to Mexico City this weekend,

911
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: and of course a great main event. Last perciently, at

912
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: least were the big topics. Today we have planning more

913
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: stuff to get to in the show. Devin Haney, Now,

914
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: I'll give you all the credit in the world on

915
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: this one. I'd seen him flow through some of the

916
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: boxing accounts that I follow on social media, hadn't really

917
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: given him much of a shot. I didn't know who

918
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: he really was, and you were like, dude, you've been

919
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: following this Devin Haney. Guy. I think he fought on Friday,

920
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken.

921
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: Friday and his own theater at Madison Square Garden.

922
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: Ypy gets another spectacular win, and I did see the

923
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: win itself. And twenty years old. Now he's a mandatory

924
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: WBC challenger for Lomachenko place.

925
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: And he's calling him Nomchenko because they're saying he doesn't

926
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: want to fight.

927
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: Now tell the folks with the situation is because, as

928
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: I understand it, I'll be honest, Devin Haney not a

929
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: guy who's super hardcore on my radar. You put him

930
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: on there, did a little bit of research, I was

931
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: kind of blown away. What is what is the talk

932
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: of Devin Haney in the boxing world? Why is he

933
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: somebody that MMA fans or boxing fans should keep their

934
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: eye on.

935
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: The talk is the next Floyd Mayweather? And every time

936
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: I hear that, Luke, I'm like, get that the hell

937
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: way from me. Bend down that road with Adrian Broner.

938
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: Like even though Errol Spence kind of is the next

939
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: Mayweather in the sense of the next potential palnd for

940
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 2: pound king, along with Crawford calling anybody the next Mayweather,

941
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 2: it just doesn't work. The more you do research on

942
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: this guy, the more you start to kind of just

943
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: fall into that, into that quicksand and go, maybe I

944
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: gotta wake up on it. He fought on a couple

945
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: of show box cards and showtime looked really good, and

946
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: then a key point came in his career where he

947
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 2: took the reins of his own career. He had suitors

948
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: of like Mayweather Promotions, PBC al Haym in top rank.

949
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 2: Everyone wanted him. He said, no, I'm going at his own.

950
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a key building block that not a

951
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 2: lot of people talk about. And I'm signing with Eddie

952
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: Hearn because Hearn gave him a lot of money and

953
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: he's given him the room to kind of start his

954
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: own promotion. Very Floyd in a way, Stil, that's just

955
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 2: a set up that at twenty years old, this kid's

956
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: got it. When I want to see somebody and see

957
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: if they have that it to be next level to

958
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: be in that Floyd category, even on a could this be.

959
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to see the speed. I don't want

960
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: to see the ability. I want to see the mindset

961
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 2: and I want to see the journey and he has both. Luke,

962
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 2: when you look back, his dad turned him pro at seventeen,

963
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: couldn't legally get fights in the US, so Brown to

964
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 2: Tijuana had him fighting in bars. You understand that kind

965
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: of experience that you're gonna get instead of going into

966
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: the Olympic amateur system nothing abuse well and then bouncing

967
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: around to different trainers learning the shoulder roll from Floyd Senior,

968
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 2: going around to major elite trainers and figuring it out.

969
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: When you watch him box, he gives you those same

970
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: feels that when we saw Lebron James at eighteen join

971
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 2: the NBA and you watching about three or four games,

972
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: and you go, this guy doesn't have faults. Like there's

973
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: no faults at all. Like once he fills out and

974
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 2: gets some teammates, this guy's gonna be winning championships every year.

975
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: Haines's jab just the little things right. Haines's jab is

976
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 2: so quick and powerful. It's like it reminds me of

977
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: Buzuka I Corte from back in the day. I mean,

978
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: it's just a weapon and the Christmas, the right hand, accuracy,

979
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 2: the poise, the everything about it. If you want to

980
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: see a twenty year old and try to say in

981
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: the moment, is it gonna make it or not? When

982
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: you see the poise of Devin Haney in the way

983
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: he carries himself as a professional, you go, okay, I

984
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 2: gotta stick with this guy. Was in Floyd's camp Floyd

985
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: Mayweather early on when he was still an amateur, and

986
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: then was a sparring partner for Floyd ahead of the

987
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: McGregor fight, So he sort of watched Floyd from a

988
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: close distance moving to Las Vegas, and this might actually

989
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: be a guy who's who knows what it's going to

990
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: take to get there. You never know if they will,

991
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: but he seems to have the intangibles and he's gonna

992
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: be fun to watch on that journey. And the best

993
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: part about.

994
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: It hill the question is he gonna fight Lomachenko.

995
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: So that's the great equalizer in boxing. Because there's so

996
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: many cooks in the kitchen. Every promoter's got their own

997
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: network deal, it's hard to make the fights we want

998
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: to see. But the equalizer in that is to become

999
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: somebody's mandatory. Because we hate these alphabet bodies, but they

1000
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 2: do control and they make you do one thing. If

1001
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: I become your mandatory, you have to fight me or

1002
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: you give up your belt. Lomachenk got one thirty five

1003
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: has three of the four titles. Top Ring's gonna match

1004
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: him against the winner of this December fight, which is

1005
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: Richard cole Me defending against Tayo Femo Lopez Junior, another

1006
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: your looking young product, oh my god, has some of

1007
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: these Roy Jones leaping type abilities. The winner of that

1008
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: they want to match against Loma, But Haini could be

1009
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: standing there and force his way in and basically be like,

1010
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: you don't fight me, you'll lose your title. And you

1011
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: look at where we're at one thirty five lightweight, which

1012
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: is usually the slash stopping ground for these great welterweight

1013
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: stars to eventually grow into their size and become We

1014
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: have Young Lopez, we got Lomachenko, we got Jervonte, Tank

1015
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: Davis moving up to lightweight. We've got Arosco and the

1016
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: Golden Boys stable at one forty who was unbeaten and

1017
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: looks like another Osco, Virgil Ortiz Junior, who looks like

1018
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: a killer. We've got a lot of these names around

1019
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: lingering where you look at Loamchenko, still the pomp for

1020
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 2: pound king, still the best fighter in the sport. One

1021
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: thirty five is his ceiling. Luke, We've seen really hard

1022
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 2: fights against the Padrazas, against the Lenarises, against Luke Campbell

1023
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 2: a couple weeks ago. That was a killer high speed

1024
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: chess affair. That was some high theater in which Lomachenka

1025
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: has to use.

1026
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: Those bigger men really give him problem.

1027
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: He has to use all of his talents to be

1028
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: a magician and win those by decision. If he's going

1029
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: to go in there against a next level athlete in

1030
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: Tayo Fimo, and and then at Devin Haney, who seems

1031
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 2: to have everything. We're gonna see some really tough fights,

1032
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: and that's that's how you make them. You work your

1033
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: way in there, and you make it so either there's

1034
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 2: too much money where the networks have to work together,

1035
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: or you go to the mandatory route and say you

1036
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: want to collect all the belts, you have to fight

1037
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: me to get there.

1038
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: And in fairness to Lomachenko in that Campbell fight, he

1039
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: nearly stopped them a couple of times, especially late in

1040
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: that fight, but you were right, there was very very

1041
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: competitive early, and you have to wonder if someone who

1042
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: is big enough in that weight class to be natural

1043
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: there and is just as good of an athlete as

1044
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: he is, and maybe not as technical a boxers Limachenko is,

1045
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: but technical enough that appears to be a winning We'll see.

1046
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: You could imagine it being a very winning combination against

1047
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: somebody even as decorated.

1048
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: And Mikey Garcia could come back down at one thirty

1049
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: five two. We could make some fights.

1050
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: Hare. Yeah, it'd be interesting to see how it happens.

1051
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: The rest of this this year and then into twenty twenty.

1052
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: All right, time now for your questions that you sent me.

1053
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: It's time for DMS with Donks. Now I need to hear.

1054
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: I wish we had some audio for this that we

1055
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: could play. We don't have any audio. I think here

1056
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: we go and pull these up. By the way, we

1057
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: should we should note I'm not Luke tom News on Instagram?

1058
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: What's your Instagram?

1059
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 2: Brian C. Campbell?

1060
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: We also have our own Instagram. Now at morning, I

1061
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's Morning Jay's it Morning Combat

1062
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: in the back? By the way, it's not Brendan's brother.

1063
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: It's a different one. Which one? Yes, No, look on

1064
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: the screen, h there, no that those are my two.

1065
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 1: I meant for the for the show account.

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Speaker 2: Hey Jay, get it together, all right bro?

1067
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a new It's also one for Instagram.

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00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 2: Does he listen in the back he's the biggest heel

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00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: on the show.

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00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: Get out of my mind, No, one, that's what happens

1071
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: when you have to work with Dallas cowboy fans. Reprobates

1072
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: one and all reading at a fifth grade level. All right,

1073
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: here we go. Uh yeah, first place you beat? You

1074
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: beat the Skins. They're talking estimated in the back of

1075
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: my ear. All right, here we go. This is from

1076
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: Webb's Scream or Webb's Cream. That's yeah, yeah, that's bad.

1077
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: Is Tristan Connelly the greatest example of the impact you

1078
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: can make by taking short notice fights? What do you think?

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00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: It's a good story. You jump in at the opportunity

1080
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: and you punch the clown And speaking of Webb's Cream,

1081
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: we've all been there, so there you go.

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00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: Here's what I would say. The answer is yes, but

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00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: not necessarily. I wouldn't call this the best example. It's

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00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: a good example, which is to say, there was a

1085
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: time there. It seems to be less of a problem

1086
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: these days. I went the UFC's just twisting their arms

1087
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 1: a little bit more. But remember that like six month

1088
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: period where if you were ranked eighth and I was

1089
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: ranked third, and we were supposed to fight each other,

1090
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: I would be like, just no, I'm not fighting someone

1091
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: ranked below me. They couldn't get fights. But then they

1092
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: booked me against three verses four. My opponent would fall out.

1093
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 1: You would take the short notice fight, then you would

1094
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: beat me, and then all of a sudden, you just

1095
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: boom to the top of the rankings. That actually that

1096
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: to me is the best way to take a short

1097
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: notice fight is if no one wants to fight you,

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00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: you fill in on short notice and you beat all

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00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: the guys who said no to you or ladies whoever.

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00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: That's a great example. This is also a great example,

1101
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: but it doesn't carry the same level of divisional consequence

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00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: to merit it saying it's the best.

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00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: And in theory, if you take a fight last minute,

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00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: you're gonna have an inpairent advantage because your opponent's not

1105
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: gonna be able to prepare for you right, prepare for

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00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: you at the link they would want. Did that help

1107
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 2: Andy Ruiz? Did it help Aliakita take in the hipbebe

1108
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: fight on two hours notice? You know, maybe that helped him.

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00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: Where your point, it really can't figure you out. It's

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00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 2: it's a gamble. It certainly can make you an advantage.

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00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: Yes, it's right. How many times have you seen a

1112
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: work completely backfired? I meaning to say if you mean,

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00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: I just mean to say, if you're a if you're

1114
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: a really talented fighter, like a really talented fighter, and

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00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: you can't get fights, that short notice window is often

1116
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: your best opportunity to leap frog up the rankings. All right,

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00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: this comes us to us from the Combat Hour or

1118
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: the Comba Tour, depending how you want to pronounce it.

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00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: Could Fury his inside fighting pose an additional threat to

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00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: Wilder in the rematch.

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00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely, because fighting on the inside is traditionally not something

1122
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: that heavyweights do well. It was something you remember the

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00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: initial rise of Ridic Bow. You're a dc Ish guy.

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00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I saw he was there by the

1125
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: way I saw nuts so long ago.

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00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's said now.

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00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: It's not a look.

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00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 2: It's not a good look. The night he beat or

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00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: Vander Holyfield, I believe it was nineteen ninety one, nine

1130
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: ninety two, one of the best heavyweight fights in this

1131
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: modern era, their first fight of their trilogy. I think

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00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: Riddick Bow, at six foot five that night could beat

1133
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 2: or be game against any heavyweight on any night in

1134
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: the history of the sport. He was in shape for

1135
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: the first time in his career, and he's big, and

1136
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: he's got to punch at a gin, but he can infight.

1137
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: Infighting is such an inherent advantage to something Luis Ortiz

1138
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: does very well with his boxing background in the Cuban system,

1139
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 2: and he's a big puncher, very little heavyweight to do it.

1140
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 2: If Fury can move, can you do this? Wilder needs

1141
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: room to get his punches off. Wild there's a crude

1142
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: heavyweight who's taken the unorthodox that he does, and he

1143
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: uses it to an advantage. But if you can slow

1144
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: Wilder down and especially crowd him, he doesn't have He

1145
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: needs space for even his up there.

1146
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: But the way that this fight went, and I guess

1147
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: we'll have to see what Tyson. Tyson can box so

1148
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: many different ways. I guess what to see what he does.

1149
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: But the way and the reason why they had inside fight,

1150
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 1: it was because Volleen forced the issue. Right. Wilder and

1151
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: Fury both were happy to maintain distance in their first fight.

1152
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: One of them would have to change that dynamic. And

1153
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: according to what Fury did in his last fight, he

1154
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: went until his opponent went, not waited, because his punter

1155
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: just forced the issue. But in other words, is Fury

1156
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: going to decide to go inside fight with Wilder? I

1157
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: don't know. He seems to like working, He likes to

1158
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: use footwork and working he knows he's going to get that.

1159
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: That's long job. I don't know. I'm a little here's a.

1160
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: Deal on a room match in very wild then why

1161
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: it's so exciting Because wild there was a deer in

1162
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 2: headlights in the first fight, and he admitted it himself.

1163
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: The moment got to him, the pressure and all that.

1164
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 2: He didn't put his foot on the gas pedal until

1165
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 2: late scored. What knockdowns in round eight and round twelve.

1166
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: If Wilder gets out box first couple of rounds but

1167
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: then decides to just go for it, then Tyson Furry

1168
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: has to make championship adjustments, and one of those adjustments

1169
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: could be crowding him on the inside again, a skill

1170
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: that heavyweights so often have unless you're small and you have.

1171
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: To never say never. I'm just not convinced, not that

1172
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: he couldn't do it, that he will do it. I

1173
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: don't think that he will. All right, So this comes

1174
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: ups from Phoenix UFC Underscore. Am I the only one

1175
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: that's still interested in the Connor Paulice starring video? No,

1176
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: I've lost all interest. What about you?

1177
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: If you offered me right now, like a two ninety

1178
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: nine pay per.

1179
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: View, Yeah, yeah, I'd pay for that.

1180
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: I'd pay it just to see it.

1181
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: Right.

1182
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: It's sort of like when you know, twenty years into

1183
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: their career, some starlet oh this, she's got a nut scene.

1184
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: I gotta go see that crappy movie, right, I gotta

1185
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 2: see you. I just gotta see it, right, you know

1186
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: sometimes you just got to see it.

1187
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't do that. You're a creep.

1188
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, I would say this, there was.

1189
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: The original intrigue was that there were two stories. One

1190
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: was Connor went in there and just beat the brakes

1191
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: off of him. The other one was, hey, PAULI admits

1192
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: it got a little ugly early, but that he took

1193
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: over late. Then two things happened. One the video comes out,

1194
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: the little one where he gets knocked down. Was it

1195
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: a knockdown? Was it not? Paulie says, it's totally not representative.

1196
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: Connor says it's utterly representative. Then Paulie comes back and

1197
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: fights Artam Lobov. Now, actually thought you could have scored

1198
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: that fight for Artim Lobov and bare Knuckle, but it

1199
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: was not paul Though. Yeah, sorry, I'm sorry. You could

1200
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: argue the case that that Artam did not win, in

1201
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: that Paulie did. Either way, Artam wins. The point being is,

1202
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: you know he was coming out of retirement. I mean,

1203
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: I love Paulie he'll tell you the same thing that

1204
00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 1: was hardly his best showing.

1205
00:48:59,800 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: Bro.

1206
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: I think people basically believe at this point Connor's recitation

1207
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: of things, or at least they just whatever skepticism that

1208
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: Paulie had introduced. I just don't think the fan base

1209
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: believes anymore, which doesn't say he's not right.

1210
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 2: There's a market out, there's a mythology around sparring videos though,

1211
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: like people on boxing Twitter still can't stop talking about that,

1212
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: like two thousand sparring session where paul Spout a four

1213
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: who was like a week out from fighting for a

1214
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: world title, like gave it to Floyd and kind of

1215
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 2: edged him in sparring. If Floyd wasn't in top shape.

1216
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: People still, like, you know, jokingly say Floyd's fifty and

1217
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: one because of that. So people like to talk about

1218
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: him just like people.

1219
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: Or am or even at MMA too, where you had

1220
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: Gaeche before this fiveuling. Yes we're gonna knocked down sparring.

1221
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: Oh what does that mean for his chances? It turns

1222
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: out nothing means nothing for his chances. It's a I

1223
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: als try to explain it in terms of like like

1224
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu, because the best way I can understand it, Like,

1225
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: what does sparring footage mean? All right, So let's say

1226
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: Bryan shows up to jiu jitsu one day, right, and

1227
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: he says, I'm a top. The way he makes his

1228
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: living in jiu jitsu is takedown, top passing, side control mount.

1229
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: That's how he does. That's so he does everybody the

1230
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: same way. And then for six weeks he decides to

1231
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: work on his guard. Well, for the first four to

1232
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: five of those weeks, you're gonna get your guard passed

1233
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: all the time. That doesn't mean if you didn't do

1234
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: your normal game, you wouldn't smoke them. But you decide

1235
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: to put yourself at a disadvantage. And someone got footage

1236
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: of that, they'd be like, oh my god, X beat

1237
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: Brian and then you too, rematch at a tournament and

1238
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: you just annihilate this guy.

1239
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: So I always go for the Cody McKenzie guillotine from.

1240
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: The Mackenzie teen son.

1241
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: I'm just pointing out that guy's eating out of a

1242
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: few gas stations.

1243
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to point out you can never really

1244
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: know what sparring means. That's why it's very much a.

1245
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 2: Private Speaking of New to the nineteen ninety five you

1246
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: were there for opening night at Show Girls. You had

1247
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: to be if you were a no, if you were

1248
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 2: a man and you could have you know, and you

1249
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 2: had a driver's license, you were I mean first night Friday.

1250
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: I was a senior in high.

1251
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: School fourteen at the time.

1252
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 2: I think there was about fifty of us. It was.

1253
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 2: It was a seminal moment in the theater opening night,

1254
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: first showing, like seven pm. Like there were there were

1255
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 2: dudes in my high school coming with me who were

1256
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: like fake, id to get into that.

1257
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: You are a d J in Holy you're telling me,

1258
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean you went to see that joint in the theater.

1259
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 2: Did you not grow up watching Save by the Like?

1260
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: How you treat it like it was a Star Wars

1261
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: opening We were there opening night in costume.

1262
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: Did you not grow up watching Save by the Bell?

1263
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: It's just not the super Bowl of your youth? How

1264
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: are you gonna how are you gonna get on that?

1265
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: If I if I would like to watch pornography, I

1266
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: just go watch pornography. I don't even watch It.

1267
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: Was the internet in nineteen ninety five, all right, It

1268
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: wasn't the Internet in nineteen ninety five.

1269
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: To get actually there was, but Okay, not in the

1270
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: way you're talking.

1271
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 2: About it to pedal VHS tapes. It was a hobby.

1272
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: Alright, you need the Internet for pornography, you amateur.

1273
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: I could have shown you you needed cine max late

1274
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: and I read you diaries on showtime shout out, what

1275
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: are you?

1276
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: You haven't you watched like the This is like that.

1277
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what you want to call this. This

1278
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: is not pornography. Your pornography game sucks. We gotta bring

1279
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: you up to speed. All right, here we go. What

1280
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: do you think about to make that for?

1281
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 2: This iszle real?

1282
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: Please? Okay? Omar Rubio says, what do you think of

1283
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: Tyrone Wooley? They wrote wool going on IG live when

1284
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: he's driving every day. I've not seen this is he is? He? Like?

1285
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: It's on the dashboard? What's the problem?

1286
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: Everybody does it, unfortunately, just like everybody texts and drives.

1287
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: It sucks.

1288
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: Does he does he do this bit with it?

1289
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 2: I don't watch it, but I'm assuming he does what

1290
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: every other famous person does, which is filmed them. Forget

1291
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: famous person. Everyone on my Facebook timeline, everyone I went

1292
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: to high school with, does the same thing.

1293
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I don't know if it's look if

1294
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: he's got a dash thing.

1295
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 2: Which I know you don't connect with anybody went to

1296
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: high school with because the bad memories. But you know

1297
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 2: they probably actually.

1298
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: Saw them all over the weekend. Se See, you just

1299
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: don't understand me. I don't want to. I don't want

1300
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: to revisit the donks in high school, but the cool

1301
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: people I'm still cool with.

1302
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 2: I bet you were a dunk. I'm gonna almost guarantee.

1303
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: Bro ready for this. I was. I was a math leite.

1304
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the puzzle pieces are coming together. No show

1305
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: girls for you.

1306
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. What I'm saying like, gotta you know, you gotta

1307
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: get in where you fit in, all right. This comes

1308
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: us from Joseph Corson maitre d is air Rating your

1309
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: lawn really necessary. Ripped my hands apart after doing it

1310
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: for four hours.

1311
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: You dig tiny holes in your lawn to let it

1312
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 2: air out, to stop the weeds from growing. I've only

1313
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 2: been into this home ownership thing for two years.

1314
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: So I couldn't tell you here's what I do to

1315
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: my lawn. I let it rot. You know why, I

1316
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: ain't got a most shit. I don't have to do anything.

1317
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: I don't do any yard work. Are you one of

1318
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: these green thumb types.

1319
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 2: No, my neighbor is though. Shout out to my great

1320
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: neighbor who helps me out. But I just get it done.

1321
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 2: I'm serviceable.

1322
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: Okay, I tell you what my neighbor did to me,

1323
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: and then we'll move on because the people in the

1324
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: back are having aneurysms about this. So, okay, when I

1325
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: moved to my neighborhood I live in. I live in Washington,

1326
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: d C. Like in the city, and I was the

1327
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: tip of the spirit of gentrification when I moved in

1328
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood for a second, anyway, So one way

1329
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: to keep out, you know, people walking by because I'm

1330
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: between two metro stops, was I put a fence on

1331
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: my yard. All right. Now my neighborhood has radically transformed

1332
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 1: in the last fifteen years. Okay, so it's much better now.

1333
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: Not a ghetto, no, no, no, not now.

1334
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: But when I do when I was there, I had

1335
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: people walking down the street with pumping shotguns like it

1336
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: was a whole thing. Wait, okay, story guy came out

1337
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: and do the whole one handed bit like that. My

1338
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: neighbor who has she wins contests in uh in gardening,

1339
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: she came by my door and she was like, what

1340
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: would you say to the idea of you taking down

1341
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: your fence and I'll mind your yard?

1342
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: Wow?

1343
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, where's the shot gun?

1344
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: That's the ultimate?

1345
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I was like, I was like, I

1346
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: would rather be shot in the face with liquid.

1347
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: Oh you're that guy in the neighborhood. I can see that.

1348
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: I've maintained the property. It's got grass, and I pay

1349
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: a dude to cut it. But I'm not air rating

1350
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: my lawn. I know. I'd rather die. I literally would

1351
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: rather die. I would rather die than errate my lawn.

1352
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: So anyway, I told you can imagine what I told

1353
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: my neighbor. This one's iron, this one's steal. If this

1354
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 1: don't get you, this one wheel I pulled the Brian Campbell.

1355
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you put your earphones back in and listen.

1356
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: To speaking a cringe. What are you gonna show me? Now?

1357
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 2: Look, did have you seen the ship? Because there's always

1358
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: great videos. We don't have enough time in this show.

1359
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 2: You've seen this ship. There's always great videos that go

1360
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: by each week and you just miss it. I want

1361
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: to make sure you are all caught up on what's

1362
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: going on in where am I looking. Look on the

1363
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 2: screen behind us, Jay in the back. Let's hit him

1364
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: up with the first one. This is sort of my collection.

1365
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: Check this out. Go to the movie Somebody looks at

1366
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 2: you the wrong way as three Piece in the in

1367
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 2: the in the uh in the left hook at.

1368
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: Hoyts I like the guy in the hockey jersey.

1369
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: Can we run that back? Look? Public fights used to

1370
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: just be slopping. Now people trying to mix an mma.

1371
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: Watch the guy in the light blue shirt here he

1372
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: takes Oh, get up, No, you're not te kicked to

1373
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 2: the heart. That's really where we're at, right there? Are

1374
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 2: you done with that?

1375
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: You know what? Here's the deal. You have to always

1376
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: know why they're fighting. Was it were they were going

1377
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: to see like a Star Wars and one was in

1378
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: ahead in the line, And that's the whole thing. Look

1379
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: at this guy. Oh, I love how this dude's dressed.

1380
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: He's like, look, man, I need every shade of blue

1381
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: to match these terrible red shoes.

1382
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: You gotta watch your back in the movie. There, Let's

1383
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: go to the next one here.

1384
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.

1385
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 2: Luke, you've seen this ship this weekend. This is from

1386
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 2: your eye Hall against shoeface Antonio Carlos Junior. Look at this.

1387
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: Zoom in on this. Look at the bloods on this

1388
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: stiff jab. You're a hall by the way, the former

1389
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 2: jiu jitsu sense of our own producer Jay in the back.

1390
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 2: You wanted to share that with us. Look at that.

1391
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: That's true, That is true. Look at that bottle rocket

1392
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: of blood snots. Sometimes in the UFC, too much is

1393
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 2: too much?

1394
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: Luke?

1395
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: That that's a little uncomfortable.

1396
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the kind of This is the reason

1397
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: why my dad doesn't love me is because I cover

1398
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: this for a living.

1399
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to your eye A Hall, big win

1400
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: for him right there.

1401
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: Can you imagine me, like Dad, I cover this activity

1402
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: for this is how I pay my mortgage. And then

1403
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: my dad, who was a foreign service officer, looking at

1404
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: this and being like, I don't know who you're not.

1405
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: You're not You're not my child, You're not my child?

1406
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 2: You got any more?

1407
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: Here?

1408
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: Have you seen this ship? All right? We're talking about

1409
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 2: fury Volleen over the weekend? Here has this massive cut this.

1410
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: Why are you in front of the referee sticking the

1411
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: thumb of his glove, Luke, is this like if you

1412
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: ain't cheating, you ain't trying or is this too far?

1413
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: This is him shooting the shot, right, This is him

1414
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: shooting shot. He's like, look, I'm not gonna get back

1415
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: here ever again. I gotta cut on this, dude.

1416
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: This is stick.

1417
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is that is That is straight up egregious. Wow,

1418
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: and also just sort of there's a point about this

1419
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: whole thing, like, do competitive sports. I tried to telling

1420
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: with this about PDS and whateverthing else. It will force

1421
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: rational people to do crazy things in the interest of winning,

1422
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: including taking drugs or putting on an act or putting on.

1423
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: I think you should be cute for that, not even

1424
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: a point taken away. I think that should be straight referee.

1425
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: Twenty weeks By the way, did you see his blue

1426
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: shirt and the referee. It looked like he had been

1427
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: performing surgery at an animal hospital.

1428
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 2: It looked like the movie Carry And then uh, he didn't.

1429
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he warned him. I don't think he

1430
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: say anything to the corner. I could be wrong about that.

1431
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: I didn't see him do anything nothing.

1432
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: All right, we got to go to m M A

1433
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 2: one for here. You're gonna like this one.

1434
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: Check this out, check this out. All right, the last

1435
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: thing the old man is gonna do it.

1436
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 2: Last thing to go in when you're old as power.

1437
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: So watch this good hand control. I think he's got

1438
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: an overhook. I can't tell.

1439
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: Look at this geriatric Carol Paul drop.

1440
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: That is amazing. Look at this old bastard.

1441
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: Jacquel Lane jacking up those sweatpants.

1442
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: I think he's got dumb grip strength too.

1443
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: That guy would tap you out.

1444
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah you would. Guy, he's got sweatpants hiked up to

1445
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: his nipples.

1446
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: Fuck you that guy A fox cuts your T shirt? Nice?

1447
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,479
Speaker 1: That the dude you went to go see show Goals

1448
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: with that one of your buddes from high school.

1449
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 2: Oh, look at that?

1450
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: Look at that all right, hitting with the old lateral drop.

1451
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: That's I got one more for you. I know you're

1452
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 2: pumped up for November ninth on the zone when we

1453
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: see ks I Logan Paul too. They had a press

1454
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: conference in Los Angeles. Wow, and uh this kind of

1455
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 2: looks like a high school party in old Marietta, right,

1456
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: this is this is this is interesting?

1457
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: Why is he is that? Shannon?

1458
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: That Shannon Briggs Let's go Champ and Logan Paul did

1459
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: a lot of talk about dongs and then there was

1460
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 2: a lot of yeah.

1461
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: So there was ever any like I want to find

1462
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't believe in human evolution and be like,

1463
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: here's logan, Paul, Are you really going to tell me

1464
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: this isn't a primate? Are you really going to tell

1465
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: me that this human being is? Uh?

1466
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: The Look, these are the type of bros you went

1467
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: high school? Are you gonna tell me that this guy

1468
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: those are the type of bro?

1469
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: Is Logan Paul really that far away from throwing his

1470
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: specs at ks I at this point? Honest?

1471
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 2: Speaking of Luke's high school days, we do have very

1472
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: very dedicated listeners and viewers here who did a little

1473
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: bit of research for us. We want to see, we

1474
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: want to see what this donk looked like.

1475
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: Do we have this up?

1476
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: Do you have this ready here? The show's live, folks

1477
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: don't have it?

1478
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: You know what? Karma? Karma for you guys being dicks? Wow?

1479
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 2: Wow, spoiler alert. Luke, what were you doing in that

1480
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:39,959
Speaker 2: senior picture looking up at the sky?

1481
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't see it.

1482
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was pretty bad. It would look

1483
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: like one of those at home drawing pictures mountaintops right, Oh,

1484
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: Jared Lemon Yellow Sun.

1485
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: You know they.

1486
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: Unleashed a lieon. Hey, great work in the back Jay.

1487
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 2: You guys did a killer job with that, really really

1488
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 2: good stuff.

1489
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Speaker 1: You're good at your jobs. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're live this week, though they tease it.

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Speaker 1: They tease that you're really not gonna show at this point. Oh,

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01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: they don't have it. Sucking Campbell. You tried to stick

1493
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: it to me and it pull up in your face.

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01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: You're Michelle Pereira doing backflips. That's who you are.

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01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: In the words of Logan Paul God.

1496
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: And blew up in your face last laugh. You're the Smurfs.

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01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: I'm gargle. What if I was gargle moo, you would win?

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01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: Fuck I fucked it up now doesn't matter and blew

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01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: up in your face. Suck it. I'm so happy about that.

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Speaker 1: Shocking a Cowboys fan can't do his job, right ha? Wow?

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Speaker 2: All right, all right Hall definitely canna cuss him at

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01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 2: some point.

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Speaker 1: All right, you got any more of this multimedia?

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01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: No, you've seen all that shit. We're done. We're done.

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01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, I'm so happy about this. Yes, I live

1506
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: to fight another day. Suck it. Brian Campbell. All right,

1507
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: before we go odds and ends, Give me a nods,

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01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: give me a name.

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01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: I'm former UFC heavyweight champion Kayen Velasquez. Sea Level Kane

1510
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: was back at the wrastling this week is for the

1511
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: Mexican Promotionalway. This is Madison Square Garden Theater in New York,

1512
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 2: went up against the ww pay per view. Here's my kuh.

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01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 2: Here's my question, Manska.

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01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: And I'm doing a bit. Is he good at this?

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01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: He's insanely good at this? So here's my deal, Sea

1516
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: Level Kane. The last seven years, every time he touches

1517
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,439
Speaker 2: an octagon, he gets injured. And he's doing this shit

1518
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: and he's really good at it.

1519
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: Can you name these things he's doing?

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01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 2: He told ESPN last week that he has talks right

1521
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 2: now with WWE New Japan Pro Wrestling, with the new

1522
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 2: aw that's launching in a couple of weeks. I don't

1523
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 2: know if he's ever going back.

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01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: Luke.

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01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 2: Look at this, look at the movements here.

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01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: How much is he getting paid?

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01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, But how is he not getting hurt?

1528
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: Luke the dude like you can look at him the

1529
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 2: wrong way and he's out for Here's my question.

1530
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: What does UFC think when they see this.

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01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 2: They think we're not getting that stpe fight ever, is

1532
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: that what they think they have to think?

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01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: Because they have Like, if you do something like this

1534
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: inherently dangerous, which I recognize obviously cares some physical risk,

1535
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: they have to sign off on it. So why would

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01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: they be signing off on this if he's an active head?

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01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: He was his second of three bounce he signed with

1538
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: Triple A. After that, he's gonna kind of be a

1539
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: pre wrestling free agent. I know he's talking about still

1540
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: maybe wanting to fight. I don't know if they were

1541
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 2: fighting again, Luke, You know what I'm saying.

1542
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: That is why we may end up.

1543
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 2: Getting one of those sword dong tats on his chest

1544
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 2: like Brock and just go for it.

1545
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: You know, how much do you think he makes for that?

1546
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: Hard to say?

1547
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 2: Five hundred K? Maybe? I don't know what. I don't know. No,

1548
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how much money Triple A has. But

1549
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 2: he's living a dream right now.

1550
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: He's doing well.

1551
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 2: He's living a dream. He's doing very well. Do you

1552
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 2: see did you see how athletic he was right there?

1553
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? But does that mean he's okay? But on his

1554
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: mike skills, like can he do that well?

1555
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: That that that's gonna be. He just needs a hype man, right,

1556
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 2: I mean, if you if if he needs a hype man,

1557
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: if you're gonna wear the mask and he's gonna show

1558
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: the tradition of the Mexican luchidor, then he can they

1559
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 2: can hide some of those lack of charisma that he's

1560
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 2: had throughout his career. But uh, ground pride all day.

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01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: All right, Well, look, one of us is the adult

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01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: in the room. So for my uh odds and ends,

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01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: let me give a shout out to h well two,

1564
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: but especially three people, Jason Cruz, Paul Gift, and then

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01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: John Nash. I don't know what Jason Cruz is Twitter handleist,

1566
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: so please forgive me, but he's over at MMA payouts.

1567
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: But for Paul Gift is a professor of Pepperdine in economics.

1568
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: You know, he goes by MMA analytics, and then hey,

1569
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: not the face on Twitter, John Nash, these guys and

1570
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: then just Josh Gross from the Athletic two but in

1571
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: particular these three gentlemen, and then Grow and then Nash

1572
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: and Gift. They went to this court case where if

1573
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: you didn't follow what happened in Las Vegas, I think

1574
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: it was last week or maybe the week before. The

1575
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: idea is as follows. The plaintiffs for the fighters who

1576
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: were soon in the UFC and the defendants there the UFC,

1577
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: they had their last moment essentially before the judge decides

1578
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: are the fighters can they be certified as a class

1579
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: to have a class action lawsuit? You have to get

1580
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: that hurdle passed, and we still know the answer to

1581
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: that will probably be a couple of months before we do.

1582
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: But apparently the plaintiffs, the fighters in this case, they

1583
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: had a great week and the guys who covered it

1584
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: the best were those two. Why is that important? Because

1585
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: we got a treasure trove of data on pay per

1586
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: view buys on what the biggest stars make. John Nash

1587
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: over Bloody Elbow has a post up today. We basically

1588
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: know what the biggest fighters make now in the sport,

1589
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: which we did not know before. We have again it's

1590
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: not full complete data, but we have a ton of

1591
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: information now Brian about how to say how much these

1592
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: guys make. And the big takeaway was Strike Force sixty

1593
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: three percent of their wage share went to the fighters,

1594
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: Beltore about forty five percent. UFC a consistent and steady

1595
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: eighteen to nineteen. Let's saving generous be twenty percent. And

1596
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: the key about that twenty percent is they want.

1597
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 2: To keep it at twenty Yeah, of course they do that.

1598
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: They want to keep it at twenty percent.

1599
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 2: So you ever see Dana's office, there's like a machine

1600
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 2: gun with cocaine. And that's how you afford stuffing.

1601
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: I know, his art just beats you over the head

1602
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: with its subtlety. But the point being is, if you

1603
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: want to know, if you want to look at this information,

1604
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: which we've never had in the history of the sport,

1605
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: those gentlemen did great, great work. Going to be no

1606
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: one will look at it.

1607
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: No one wants to hear your nerd math anymore talking

1608
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 2: about that stuff. He put it out there. Let's let's go.

1609
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 2: Jeremy spoken right, No.

1610
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: No, that's not senior. That is clearly I remember picking

1611
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: on the boy right that is like sixteen.

1612
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 2: Look at that fresh What are you looking at? You're

1613
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 2: looking up at the at the lights here you get

1614
01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: knocked out without here.

1615
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: You know what I like? You know what I like

1616
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: about this one? First of all, f you. Second of all.

1617
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: Second of all, the T shirt underneath the shirts.

1618
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: You had a white college hat from made by the

1619
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: game that probably said like buffs or I didn't.

1620
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: Go that far. I like how my mom was like,

1621
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: you know what for a haircut, We're just gonna do nothing.

1622
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 2: Hey, shout out to Lisa t Slide in those dms.

1623
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: Actually it's Lisa. I won't say her last time I

1624
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: know her. Well, she actually lives. He's an attorney in DC.

1625
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 2: Now she just he's gonna sue us for.

1626
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: She too left Marietta.

1627
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 2: Luke, who hurt? You gotta tell us what really happened?

1628
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: Bro? I had a single mom. I had some choices

1629
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: to make and they were not easy. Can you believe

1630
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: I ended up being a marine after this? They looked

1631
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: at must have looked at me, and I like, we

1632
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: got We've got some work to do with this, gentleman.

1633
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: You know what? Yeah? All right, well, first of all,

1634
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna internet sleuths. We need to talk about Brian

1635
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: Campbell's history. That's what we need to do. We're gonna

1636
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: where do you go? All right? He walked off camera.

1637
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: All right for Brian, I'm Luke. Guys, this is our

1638
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: channel now. Subscribes, subscribe, subscribe, sharing around like the video,

1639
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: tons more coming away. Appreciate you guys watching until next time.

1640
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: Bryan Campbell's a loser, so was I in high school.

1641
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: May all of your gains be loyal