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Speaker 2: All thanks to Live Nation. Cam Newton has he has

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Speaker 2: a take on on men and women being friends and

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Speaker 2: having platonic friendships meaning no shenanigans. He of course doesn't understand.

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Speaker 2: He thinks the words something else. I believe he believe

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Speaker 2: thinks playtonic. I believe he's thing.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna play this clip. I'm gonna cross my fingers.

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Speaker 2: I listened to it once, but I know. But here

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Speaker 2: he is on a podcast. This is Cam Newton talking

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Speaker 2: about how it is impossible to have platonic friendships with

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Speaker 2: women without wanting more.

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Speaker 1: Impossible.

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Speaker 2: He says, you have any platonic relationships in your life

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Speaker 2: right now with the woman, No, that is that about choice.

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Speaker 2: It's very hard for me to take him seriously, by

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Speaker 2: the way, because he's wearing like a Fedora thing with

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Speaker 2: like and as you know, I mean, I'm thinking about

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Speaker 2: I want to hat like that kind of but I'm

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Speaker 2: not like not like that one, you know, and it

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Speaker 2: has buttons on it. And then he's like he's wearing

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Speaker 2: a top pad, and then he's wearing like a shirt

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Speaker 2: and tie and then like a flan. I know, it's

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Speaker 2: very hard for me to take him seriously right now. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: uh well, no, it starts with this man in this

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Speaker 2: outfit saying this thing, I'm not about to be around

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Speaker 2: no woman platonically, no platonically either.

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Speaker 1: You heard that man listening to Unpacked. This can why

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Speaker 1: because I'm not about to play some type of game.

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Speaker 1: Is it self control?

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Speaker 3: Call it what you want, as it may be self

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Speaker 3: control if she find I'm not about to have her

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Speaker 3: around playing like I don't think that she's attractive.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I mean we can keep going.

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Speaker 2: I believe the key quote here was I don't have

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Speaker 2: women around me that I'm cool with that I don't

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Speaker 2: have plans on.

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Speaker 1: Stabbing.

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Speaker 4: Yes, stabbing was the word he used multiple times and

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Speaker 4: like shout out to whoever who was interviewing him. He

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Speaker 4: was great because he kept trying to unpacked, be like

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Speaker 4: let's let's get further, and he was just like no.

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Speaker 5: Basically he said he only has ugly women around him.

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Speaker 1: Like Friday podcast.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that's Cam Newton's podcast. Oh it's his own, okay,

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Speaker 5: Oh all right.

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious though, Heat five five five.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious, curious, curious, He's curious, curious. I just watched

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Speaker 2: that video this morning of the pe private equity guy.

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Speaker 2: I thought there was one about Arizona. Have you seen

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Speaker 2: this guy I'm talking about that has like the scrunched

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Speaker 2: up face that pretends like he's in private equity.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious. It's curious.

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Speaker 5: Is that the guy you sent me that those different

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Speaker 5: rich places.

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Speaker 2: And he like scrunches his face. Here's like a filter

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Speaker 2: that makes his face like a I'm in private equity.

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Speaker 2: My role, My role is substantial because I know I

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Speaker 2: went to college with like a hundred of those.

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Speaker 1: My role, my dad's role substantial.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, eight five five five nine one oh three five

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Speaker 2: do you. Yeah, I mean, what do you say, genuinely,

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Speaker 2: do you think that a man and a woman can

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Speaker 2: be friends without anyone having any kind of intention of

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Speaker 2: anything else? Because I do think that some form of

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Speaker 2: attraction is a component of friendship. That doesn't mean that

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Speaker 2: I think that that there can't be a genuine friendship,

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I guess I can see how at

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Speaker 2: one point or another, someone in the dynamic might feel

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Speaker 2: don't think that makes the friendship any less legitimate or impossible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you, I mean, if you develop those feelings or

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Speaker 4: friendship or no, the other person isn't interested, you just

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Speaker 4: don't say anything, like you don't need to tell them.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, no, you don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean you know, no, No, I mean do you

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Speaker 2: think that doesn't matter if you're married, Does it matter

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Speaker 2: if you're in a relationship, does it matter if you're gay?

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Speaker 2: I mean, okay, so you two are friends, but you

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Speaker 1: So I mean that's normally No, that's very rude. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm sorry. Sorry, you know, yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 2: His sexuality surpasses your insatiability.

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Speaker 1: You're irresistibility when one time you know anyone can appreciate

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Speaker 5: No, but I can't be friends with It's hard for.

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Speaker 1: Me, right, it's just my I see, you know I

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Speaker 4: You know, no, I think, I think that it is possible,

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Speaker 4: but I I have been bummed out in the past

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Speaker 4: when like guys have tried something or made it known

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Speaker 4: because I'm like, well, there it goes the friendship.

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Speaker 2: You know, you think what you're roughly clite over your what.

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Speaker 3: I have plenty of male friends, you know, I love,

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Speaker 3: I love y'all, but not like that, so I do

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Speaker 3: every you know, I don't even look at my male

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Speaker 3: friends like in a sexual or like a lot of y'alls.

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Speaker 3: God bless the women in you. We know too much,

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Speaker 3: you know, like what you're looking at me for because

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Speaker 3: you're my male friend, so there are there are.

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Speaker 2: No women dealing with me right now, correctly, so you

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Speaker 2: must not be talking about me.

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Speaker 1: Impossible. I don't know how you guys do.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I know a lot about you

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Speaker 2: guys too, right, So you know.

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Speaker 5: Are you in love?

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Speaker 1: God?

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Speaker 2: Bless God, Bless the men at home? Alex, how you doing, Alex?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that men and women can be friends?

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Speaker 2: Despite what Cam Newton is saying, Well, who is the authority?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I I look to cam Newton to sort

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Speaker 1: So I'm.

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Speaker 6: Well, well, you know, to me, I have a lot

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Speaker 1: To me, He's like, you know, you know he's got

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Speaker 6: But that's what you guys are saying. You know, if

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Speaker 6: he keeps ugly women around.

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Speaker 5: I mean those regardless.

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Speaker 6: You know, with women, having women's a friend, it brings

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Speaker 6: a different perspective into your life. So having different perspective

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Speaker 6: in someone's life is what is important. And if he

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Speaker 6: does understand that having different perspectives in one life, then

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Speaker 6: that's on him. He doesn't know what he's listening out on.

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Speaker 1: So that's my stuff.

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Speaker 2: Like if I have a if I have a female

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Speaker 2: for starting to up to you, Alex, if I have

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Speaker 2: a female friend that I'm not attracted to, like I

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Speaker 2: could be friends with you because you're not that good looking, but.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're not I would admit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're not attracted to someone, then I

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Speaker 2: suppose it's easier to reflect on the qualities that are

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Speaker 2: not physical, right, like this isn't this isn't just men. Well,

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Speaker 2: I think men tend to be we tend to be

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Speaker 2: the ones who focus on the visual, what we can see.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, I hate to generalize, but women

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Speaker 2: oftentimes lean into the more uh that, I don't even

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Speaker 1: A dude, like a dude, we'll get with it.

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Speaker 2: We'll get with a hot girl that has like nose

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Speaker 2: three words like it's from Mars and says like, okay,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 5: Also, get with ones you don't find at.

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Speaker 1: You'll get with them. All that's true. What got him?

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Speaker 1: All right, Alex? Thank you, have a good day. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you called him that.

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Speaker 3: I love Alex shout out to my ugly friend.

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Speaker 5: Dude his friend and I'm like driving to work and

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Speaker 5: I hear him a friend, Alex, which one am I

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Speaker 5: I'm callowing you right now?

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Speaker 7: Alex?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, an't?

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Speaker 5: I tell me?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So if you're not, if you have ugly friends

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Speaker 2: of the opposite sex, I supposed to teach you to

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Speaker 2: be their friend is what Hey, no stab it at all?

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Speaker 2: Hey Charlotte, Hi, Hi, good morning. Can you be friends

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Speaker 2: with just friends with a dude?

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Speaker 8: I think so yes, but you both have to be

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Speaker 9: Like outside of it, and if if you are, then

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Speaker 9: it's so much easier to be friends. Even if you

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Speaker 9: go into a friendship and you haven't already met this

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Speaker 9: as a friendship, it becomes so much easier. There's no

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Speaker 8: I have lots of guy friends and I've never been

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Speaker 2: But as it pertains to a new friendship, like just

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Speaker 2: because you have a boyfriend doesn't mean that the other

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Speaker 2: person won't have attraction to you. Like that doesn't just qualify.

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Speaker 2: It's not like as soon as I get into a relationship,

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Speaker 2: don't know that. I think that's like an actual barrier

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Speaker 2: for maybe for you, but not for everybody.

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Speaker 9: But you set I think I think you set the boundaries.

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Speaker 9: So like if you just realize I think if they're

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Speaker 9: acting in certain ways, then that's where you can decide

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Speaker 9: not to be friends with them. But I think you

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Speaker 9: set those boundaries and if it's clear to them and

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Speaker 9: they won't make any move on you, then I think

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Speaker 9: you can be friends with them. And if they secretly

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Speaker 9: have feelings for you, like that's I guess their problem.

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Speaker 8: And once you're single, then I guess they can go

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Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, Thank you, Charlotte, Thank you. I have

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Speaker 2: a good day. No, Like, I've hit people in my

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Speaker 2: life before who like meet I met through other people

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Speaker 2: and maybe we met on the dating app, and then

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Speaker 2: like we meet and it's like you're cool.

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Speaker 1: I like you.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's a romantic vibe here, Like I'm

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Speaker 2: not I'm not into it like that, which is you know,

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Speaker 2: it happens you other way around too. I've gone out

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Speaker 2: with people who aren't into it with me whatever. But

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Speaker 2: then I then I'm like, well, I don't not want

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Speaker 2: you in my life, but I'm not necessarily interested in

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Speaker 2: pursuing this romantically. And I've You've had to go the

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Speaker 2: other way too for me, where it's like, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: if you don't want me like that, then I'm out completely.

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Speaker 2: Like people go into something with the expectation that this

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Speaker 2: is what they want. They wanted to be romantic, they

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Speaker 2: to be this or that, and then if you don't adhere.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know that it's just men doing this.

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Speaker 2: I think women do it too.

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Speaker 2: It's like if you like someone and you want it

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Speaker 1: A bad thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would argue, like the relationship thing might make

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Speaker 5: So I'm like.

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Speaker 4: Chill about it obviously, and I think it makes him

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Speaker 2: So you don't think that he could, Like he couldn't

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Speaker 4: I mean he could, but I just I'm just saying

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Speaker 4: I don't think that like making them while you're in

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Speaker 4: a relationship is like the key to not finding attractions

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Speaker 4: A lot of times when you're frustrated with your relationship,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that people having partners precludes them from

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Speaker 2: doing stupid things right unfortunately, Like, I don't think that's

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Speaker 2: a hard fast rule, Like, oh good, I'm in a

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Speaker 5: I love that for her.

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Speaker 2: But no, I mean, I'm glad, I'm glad it works

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Speaker 2: for her. But no, I wouldn't say in general, I

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say making commitments to people. I wouldn't say

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Speaker 2: that stops everybody from doing things that they shouldn't be doing. Hey, Ashley,

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Speaker 2: it's real, Ashley. Hey how you doing So you have

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Speaker 2: guy friends? It's all good?

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Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely what pbsolutely you.

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Speaker 7: Know, very nervous, absolutely positive.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, there's nothing to be nervous about it. Actually, Okay, Now,

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Speaker 2: do you think it's a male female thing? Like, do

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Speaker 2: you think you can be friends with men but men

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Speaker 1: Or do you think we get a bad rap on that.

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Speaker 7: No, I think it just depends on the person, honestly,

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Speaker 7: because my guy friends they know I'm in a relationship

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Speaker 7: them are attracted to me, but they would never do

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Speaker 7: anything because.

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Speaker 5: They already know I'm in a relationship.

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Speaker 7: Well, it just depends on the guys, I guess, or

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Speaker 7: the girls or whoever. But yeah, you can absolutely be friends.

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Speaker 7: It just depends on the character of the person. All right,

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Speaker 7: thank you, Ashley, welcome by bye. Oh oh, she has

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Speaker 7: something else to say? Hey Gil, what's up? Gil?

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Speaker 2: Hey Gil, you got to turn your radio down. We're

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Speaker 2: doing a real bad job. Don't be able to turn

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Speaker 2: a radio down, hey Gil? Or they're doing a really

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Speaker 2: bad things.

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Speaker 1: Well that's also honestly, that's more likely.

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Speaker 2: But but Gil, can you be friends with a woman

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Speaker 2: or a man if you're of the opposite sex, because

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Speaker 2: Cam Newton says no, and I you know, I got

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Speaker 2: I gotta hear. I got to hear everybody out.

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Speaker 10: So I think it's absolutely possible. But to make a

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Speaker 10: point here, if you've ever been in a friendship with

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Speaker 10: a girl and then you all go get drinking and

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Speaker 10: go get a little fast, and then things happen, they

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Speaker 10: might put a damper on the relationship, It might make

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Speaker 10: it weird. But I mean, if it's a close friend,

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Speaker 10: I would never suggest trying it. But again, if it's

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Speaker 10: if it's just a friend, if you're.

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Speaker 2: Friends and then you do it, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you're I don't know if you're just friends anymore.

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Speaker 10: I suppose then your benefit friends.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think you've.

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Speaker 2: Crossed into a different territory and maybe you can go backwards.

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Speaker 1: But like, I don't know, I should be.

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Speaker 5: Able to get drunk with you and you're not trying.

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Speaker 8: Well, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, if a girl inituiates, I think the

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Speaker 4: guy's going every time.

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Speaker 7: But the rooftops, I hear you, thank you have a

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Speaker 7: good take time exactly.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think I think men get a bad they get

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Speaker 2: a bad deal on this one, because it's like, well,

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Speaker 2: guards will get with anybody, and maybe that's true, But

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Speaker 2: like I can think of a lot of examples of

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Speaker 2: people that I'm like, I just think this should be

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Speaker 2: and it's and and I've been on both sides of this,

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Speaker 2: you know, I've had it where someone doesn't want to

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Speaker 2: I've been where I'm like, I know that if if

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Speaker 2: because you're talking about me here, so it probably won't.

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Speaker 2: I have a zero percent success rate in my life,

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Speaker 2: so I can tell you then the friendship's probably gone,

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Speaker 2: at least temporarily. And so I'm at a point in

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Speaker 2: my life where a little booty is not worth throwing

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Speaker 4: So I don't know, after a couple of Tito's and

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Speaker 1: Well, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 5: I guess I just thinkingerie.

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Speaker 1: I think where it.

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Speaker 2: Gets complicated, it's like that there's in a great relationship,

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Speaker 2: if you're not initially attracted to someone male or female,

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Speaker 2: not because you went into it thinking I'm going to

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Speaker 2: thinking that would happen. Now that's not where That's not

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Speaker 2: where Cam's coming from. Cam's coming from. He can't keep

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Speaker 2: it in his pants at all, which is which we

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Speaker 2: know for a fact it is true. Actually he can't

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Speaker 2: keep it in his pants. A man has many children,

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Speaker 2: does he have the same person? It doesn't matter. Shout

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Speaker 2: out to Cam Newton. You do you, you do what

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Speaker 2: you gotta do, Cam Newton. But I'm just saying like

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Speaker 2: just if you're hot, I want to get with you.

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Speaker 2: I'm coming at it more from the place of like, no,

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Speaker 2: I think you can. I think you could keep it

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Speaker 2: that are non sexual. But I can see it. You know,

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Speaker 2: over time, there's always a possibility that things could change

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Speaker 4: Remember I told you guys, like on New Year's a

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Speaker 4: couple of years ago, my good guy friend just out

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Speaker 5: Was like, oh h, what are you doing.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the friendship is kind of ruined. Yes, I

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Speaker 4: if you're gonna kiss me out of nowhere, I'm like

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Speaker 2: But that's like that's a big swim like shot, right,

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Speaker 2: and either that's gonna go great where you're like amazing,

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Speaker 2: and then this friendship turns into something romantic and there's

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Speaker 2: this is so good. No, but I mean, like, you

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Speaker 2: do that, and it's gonna go one on two ways.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna go great or it's gonna go it's probably

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Speaker 4: I was giving no, like I burp in front of

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Speaker 1: The fact that you had.

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Speaker 2: Just farted before he shot it was like, really, that

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Speaker 2: was really a weird time to do it, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's do headlines next friend show