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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge, presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink,

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Speaker 1: joined by Garrett Dowling, and we are going to talk

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Speaker 1: about the most debated topic in the off season. That

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Speaker 1: is the NFL Top one hundred, Yes, and the Madden Ratings.

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Speaker 1: It's going to get hot.

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Speaker 2: People get very have very strong opinions when it comes

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Speaker 2: to Top one hundred and Madden ratings. So we felt

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Speaker 2: like we had to do a podcast to discuss this.

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Speaker 2: We have our opinions about these things, and also to

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Speaker 2: share if you haven't seen it, where our guys rank.

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Speaker 2: So over the last week, the Ravens or the NFL

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Speaker 2: has put out the NFL Top one hundred ratings and

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Speaker 2: Madden Ratings all came out over the course of the

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Speaker 2: last week, so both of those things have have hit

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Speaker 2: the public. And let's just start with the NFL Top

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Speaker 2: one hundred. Okay, so the Ravens had five players on

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Speaker 2: the list. Now NFL Top one hundred. This is voted

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Speaker 2: on by the players. They vote on this, so you

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Speaker 2: know this. This carries some cachet, I think to some

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Speaker 2: players because this is selected by your peers. And here's

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Speaker 2: the rundown for Ravens players. Justin Attabik came in at

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Speaker 2: number sixty one, Derrick Henry at number forty nine, Kyle

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Speaker 2: Hamilton at forty three, Rokwan Smith at nineteen, and Lamar

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Speaker 2: Jackson at number two. Okay, so let me just run

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Speaker 2: through the top five here in the rankings. Number five

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Speaker 2: is Miles Garrett, Number four is Patrick Mahomes. A lot

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Speaker 2: of conversation around that one. Number three is Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 2: Number two is Lamar Jackson, as I said, and then

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Speaker 2: number one, the top one hundred player was Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 2: So you know, look, I think that Lamar at number

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Speaker 2: two I don't have an issue with. I think that's

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Speaker 2: a good spot for him. But what I will say

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Speaker 2: is that I think that he should be headed Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 2: I think that, you know, if it was if it

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Speaker 2: you know, I can live with that one, just in

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Speaker 2: the sense that he's one of the last two Super

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Speaker 2: But there were three guys in front of him, McCaffrey, Lamar,

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Speaker 2: and Tyreek Hill. And so if you're talking about one

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Speaker 2: verse two, Lamar or Tyreek Hill. I'm gonna go Lamar

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Speaker 2: Jackson on that every single time. There's so much that

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson does that would put him ahead of Tyreek

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Speaker 2: in that ranking. So again, Tyreek Hill is an excellent player.

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Speaker 2: I think any team in the NFL would be thrilled

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Speaker 2: to have him on your team. But if you're talking

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Speaker 2: about where I would put Lamar Jackson versus him in

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Speaker 2: an overall player ranking, I would put Lamar over him

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Speaker 2: putting him as the second best player in football is

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Speaker 2: also a testament to the respect that he has around

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Speaker 2: the league. He has been number one before. Previously after

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Speaker 2: the twenty nineteen season one, he was the unanimous MVP,

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Speaker 2: and I think that he's he's he's. I always pay

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Speaker 2: attention to what other players, what players say about other players.

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Speaker 2: Think that that can be revealing in some instances about

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Speaker 2: go back to when Lamar was drafted in twenty eighteen

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Speaker 2: And I remember talking to Jalen Ramsey at the Pro

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Speaker 2: And I always just remember that, like that type of

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Speaker 2: Ramsey was just one example. Yeah, and I think that

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Speaker 2: this rating is is just another indication of that's.

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Speaker 1: Back where he should be.

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Speaker 1: So last year twenty twenty three, he was number seventy two.

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Speaker 1: Back to back years with injuries, right, And that's what

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Speaker 1: a lot of this voting happens at the end of

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Speaker 2: You're getting I love how as we're talking about this

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Speaker 1: So so Lamar's back where he deserves to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I agree with you. I mean, big

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Speaker 2: It's not a bad place. It's much better than where

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Speaker 2: think there's much more to say Lamar wise, but let's

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Speaker 2: shift things over to the linebacker. Talking about Roquan Smith.

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Speaker 2: All right, So Roquan at nineteen, you know, top twenty

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Speaker 1: Until you see Fred Warner, the inside linebacker from the

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Speaker 2: I I feel like oftentimes Warner gets he's a great player.

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Speaker 2: Rokwan Smith is the best insidelnebacker in football. I think

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Speaker 2: accolades that he's racked up, which is significant, but the

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Speaker 1: Like, well, yeah, and the fort Niners defense ain't half

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing, Like fort Ninas defense is really good.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why it seems like in the in

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Speaker 2: the court of public opinion players included here with this list,

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Speaker 2: Warner is often regarded above rokwand Smith in comparison.

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Speaker 1: It's a great question, does does Fred Warner leave you

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Speaker 2: We're talking about Roquan Smith. If you have not watched

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Speaker 2: He was awesome. I mean, he delivered some incredible one liners.

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Speaker 2: He just was rolling the train was rolling downhill. And

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Speaker 1: To your question about why I think that Fred Warner

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Speaker 1: you know, turnovers, right, he said Fred Warner had four

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Speaker 1: interceptions last year, he had four forced fumbles, He had

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Speaker 1: for him, is to make some more of those splash plays.

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Speaker 1: You know, we know what the kind of leader he is,

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Speaker 1: I think Rokwan is the better player overall if you're

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Speaker 1: That's correct. There's a lot of other you know, Jefferson's

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I think that that's probably the next step

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Speaker 1: for Roque to get the accolades that we all believe

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Speaker 2: Rokon wasn't trying to tackle this Lamars Jackson.

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Speaker 1: not Lamar Jackson. Huh. And so, but that having this

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I think again, I think they're both great players.

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Speaker 2: more of a true discussion as to who's number one,

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Speaker 2: And I think they're just rokwand so Hamilton at forty

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Speaker 1: Like the biggest, the biggest issue I have. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: But Kyle Hamilton, there's there's chatter among media, there's a

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Speaker 1: expect that to be very similar this year. He is

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Speaker 1: a game changer and for him to be at forty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. I think that part of it

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Speaker 2: I think that it will be a different story this year.

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Speaker 2: But I do think forty three is too low. But

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Speaker 2: it's a funny because we talk about defensive Player of

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson a ninety eight overall, bro Kwan Smith A

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Speaker 2: Hunter coming in number two. He's this is the best

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Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. This guy has awes some people out

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Speaker 2: This is a guy who hasn't even played an NFL

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Speaker 1: All right, here's the acceleration is Lamar. The best ninety

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Speaker 1: The fake outrage.

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Speaker 2: Is Isaiah Likely as a seventy two?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's way too low? Like that is they

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Speaker 1: they got to come out of the training camp when.

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Speaker 2: They exactly if they were out here. I'm singing the

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Speaker 2: evaluator praise on the Andrew vorheat strength rating, but the

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Speaker 2: overall rating for Isaiah Likely at seventy two is far, far, far.

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Speaker 1: Too They whift on that. Yeah, look, Nick Moore is

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Speaker 1: gonna have some beef.

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Speaker 2: They always rate the long snapper.

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Speaker 1: He's a thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: They always give the long snaff for the worst that they.

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Speaker 1: Did, Nick Moore dirty, And maybe it's the injury. They're

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Speaker 1: docking them for the injury. But when you're talking about

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Speaker 1: just pure athletes on the team, Nick Moores up there

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Speaker 1: like like a guy who's gonna beat you in ping pong.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna beat you in golf, he's gonna beat you

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Speaker 1: in billiards. He's gonna beat you.

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Speaker 2: They just always throw a long the worst grades, but.

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Speaker 1: He's pretty Look, I gotta have mixed back on this

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Speaker 1: A thirty seven. They did him.

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Speaker 2: You're going out, You're going out on a limb and

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Speaker 2: saying Nick Moore's bad in the thirty seven.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you're a brave man. Anyway, those are great. Well,

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Speaker 1: I could beat you at Madden if we just face

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Speaker 1: off today.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I think I get you. I used to be pretty nasty.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll see.

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Speaker 1: I would hit I would hit Todd Heap on the

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Speaker 1: ten yard out. It was automatic. It was just Kyle

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Speaker 1: Boller to Todd Heap on the ten yard out for

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Speaker 1: me and my Madden heyday was all. It was a slam.

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Speaker 2: Donk all right, well now I just do that.

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Speaker 1: Mark Andrews and isaying likely now and lamar.

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Speaker 2: I'm just now I know your game plan. I'm just

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Speaker 2: jumping You're out every single time. I have Kyle Hamilton

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Speaker 2: coming downhill picking those things off. The game comes out

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Speaker 2: August sixteenth, so you can check that out and it'll

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Speaker 2: be fun for all the gamers out there to play that. Also,

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Speaker 2: as always, you can email us at the lounge at

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Speaker 2: Ravens dot NFL dot net. And lastly, I want to

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Speaker 2: mention that coming up tomorrow night Acmalan FC Barcelona at

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Speaker 2: M ANDT Banks Stadium soccer match before the football season starts.

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Speaker 2: So if you have not gotten tickets to that, check

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Speaker 2: that out. You can get those tickets on seakiek. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be a cool way to kick off. You know

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Speaker 2: some of the upgrades at the stadium if you haven't

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Speaker 2: obviously haven't been there since the end of last season,

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Speaker 2: So head over there, check out the stadium itself, check

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Speaker 2: out the soccer match, and then the preseason coming up

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Speaker 2: on Friday, Rayvends Eagles. We'll see you in the house

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Speaker 2: for that game as well. So thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for listening and we will be back with you later

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Speaker 2: this week.