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Speaker 4: All right, Rob G.

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson obviously one of the best players in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: having a really good season, even though the team isn't

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Speaker 3: and he's missed a few plays. He had a bad

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Speaker 3: game against the Chiefs before we ultimately pulled out. Right now,

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Speaker 3: that hamstring has him down, still questionable if he is

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Speaker 3: going to play, And therein lies the conversation of but

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Speaker 3: what do you do with Lamar Jackson? Coming up into

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Speaker 4: Texans.

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Speaker 3: So it'll be hosting the Texans, Texans coming off a

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Speaker 3: win finally, Texans been struggling throughout the season, and a

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Speaker 3: lot of people are saying, you know, and I'll start

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Speaker 3: with me, Rob G. One thing we learn in sports,

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Speaker 3: things aren't a guarantee, right things all will have this

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Speaker 3: next year will be good next year, the schedule will

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Speaker 3: be easy next year, will have our health next year

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Speaker 3: you never really know, and so to me, I look

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Speaker 3: at the game like this for the Ravens, the team

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Speaker 3: kind of usually built to come back. Rob and I

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Speaker 3: both believe last year they were zeroing to they'll be fine,

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Speaker 3: and they were getting and got to the postseason. But

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Speaker 3: this season feels different. The defense has been giving up

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Speaker 3: way too many points. You can score thirty on them easily,

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Speaker 3: no matter who you are. You got injuries all up

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Speaker 3: obviously a nicked up Lamar Jackson. So what I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 4: You get what I mean?

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Speaker 3: And if Lamar Jackson is looking at John Harbudy he's like, Yo,

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Speaker 3: I'm really hurt right now, then this changes the conversation.

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Speaker 4: But if it's a hamstring that he can play through,

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Speaker 3: Through, to me, rob Gie, I'm gonna make that effort

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Speaker 3: if I'm Lamar Jackson, because you're sitting at one in three.

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Speaker 3: They're not built with Huntley as their backup, with any

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Speaker 3: This team, this system, this offense is run through him.

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Speaker 3: Simply put, it's how dynamic he is that makes this

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Speaker 3: This game to the Texans, who may be feeling themselves

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Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden from the Ravens, you

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Speaker 3: So if he looks at me and he feeling seventy

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Speaker 5: You could not be more wrong, k Devi because to

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Speaker 5: the fact remains is the Baltimore Ravens, to your point,

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Speaker 5: So if you wrest Lamar, get him to one hundred

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Speaker 4: So that was cute.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, all right, I'm looking at a team

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Speaker 3: the forty Bill said, that's cute. We put up forty

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Speaker 3: right now, Dyalen Gabriel, we don't know what that experiment's

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Speaker 4: You put up thirty you still, lion, say that's cute.

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Speaker 4: We got thirty eight. The Chiefs put up thirty seven.

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Speaker 4: On your head.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, though, I hear you and another normal

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Speaker 4: Who was the best running back in the NFL last year,

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Speaker 3: So I don't think what you're saying is crazy and

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Speaker 5: Well, tell you what, speaking of these ravens. There's a

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Speaker 3: We're just talking about Jamar Jackson. You and I kind

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Speaker 5: believe it, and I don't think that's fair to say.

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Speaker 4: It's not fair at all to say. Here's a couple

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Speaker 4: of things.

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Speaker 3: One thing we left out was Dion Sanders also said

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Speaker 3: Coach Prime said, basically, I'm paraphrasing you ain't.

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Speaker 4: I ain't never learned nothing on the bench, and his

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Speaker 4: point was you.

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Speaker 3: Kind of got to get out there, get the live fire,

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Speaker 3: get those live action balls to play and get to

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Speaker 3: get tackled a little bit, get you know, get out there,

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Speaker 3: get your feet wet in order to grow. Now I do,

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Speaker 3: but I disagree. I get the sentiment, but I do disagree.

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Speaker 3: I think you can learn from the bench, and I

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Speaker 3: think you're wise too. If that's just simply where you are.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you have the mindset him, man, I

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Speaker 3: can't learn from here. If you're on the bench, well

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Speaker 3: you might as well learn. You might as well learn

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Speaker 3: from the guys in front of you, Lamar Jackson, which

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Speaker 3: in this hypothetical sense Joe Flacco in the real sense

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Speaker 3: of where he is.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: Now, here's the thing too, I don't mind a player

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Speaker 3: wanting to play. I think people being like, oh, man,

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Speaker 3: you could have been I don't have a problem with

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Speaker 3: a guy wanted to play, because did we forget Eli

462
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Speaker 3: Manning didn't want to go to certain situations, right, we

463
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Speaker 3: had John Elway didn't want to go to a certain situations,

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Speaker 3: didn't want to play for this, didn't want to do that.

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Speaker 3: And if your fifth round pick, which with the Ravens

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Speaker 3: would have been, it was differently they said, hey, we're

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Speaker 3: going to take you second round, right.

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Speaker 4: But you got a back.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Coo, I'm going second, which mean I get a

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Speaker 3: certain different type of money and obviously they value me,

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Speaker 3: they have me hire.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's the fifth round.

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Speaker 3: And I got a chance at this point going to

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Speaker 3: the fifth round probably going to be the team that's bad,

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Speaker 3: and I can you know, I have a chance to compete.

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Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with somebody wanting to go compete,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: And say I got a chance to play, because the

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Speaker 3: other team or two that I'm hearing about, it's not

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Speaker 3: like they have a lamar A Josh Allen of Patrick

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Speaker 3: Mahomes that justin Herbert there. I'm gonna have to try

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Speaker 3: to you know, then I'll never get that spot. So

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Speaker 3: I don't mind a kid. See, once you're in the

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Speaker 3: fifth round, one to go play. And to your point,

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Speaker 3: there is no guarantee. Cooper Rush has been really, really

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Speaker 3: good at he's solid, He's had a solid career, and in.

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Speaker 5: This scenario, the Ravens are one and three, you think

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Speaker 5: they care about developmenting a quarterback right now, like, hey,

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Speaker 5: we gotta make sure she door gets reps because long

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Speaker 5: term he could be our backup of the future. No, No,

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Speaker 5: they need a win, and they believe that Cooper Rush

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Speaker 5: gives them the best has to winning Cooper Rush and

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Speaker 5: the last, but not least, the last time we saw

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Speaker 5: Shador play an NFL game was a preseason game against

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Speaker 5: the Rams. He was three or six for fourteen yards,

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Speaker 5: sacked five times. He only got one first down during

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Speaker 5: that time. His average time of throw was five and

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Speaker 5: a half seconds. I'm with you, you know what I'm saying, like,

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Speaker 5: but I'm just saying is it's we still we're assuming,

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Speaker 5: based on reputation that this was a done deal. For

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Speaker 5: got conclusion, he would have been the number two. And

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Speaker 5: so far, outside of his first preseason game, we haven't

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Speaker 5: seen anything in the rest of the preseason. We haven't

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Speaker 5: heard anything out of Cleveland that will suggest that he

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Speaker 5: is definitively an NFL caliber, you know, starting quarterback, even

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Speaker 5: with an injury.

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Speaker 3: The one thing I will say, specifically with the Ravens,

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Speaker 3: had Lamar Jackson not been there, or if you caught

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Speaker 3: Lamar when he's thirty three thirty four kind of towards

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Speaker 3: the end, I can understand. The one thing I would

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Speaker 3: say I like about that franchise, and you've heard me

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Speaker 3: say it many times before. Is I love John Harbaugh's

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Speaker 3: approach to who I got, meaning who do I have?

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Speaker 3: I got Joe Flacco. This is how we're gonna cater

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Speaker 3: the team. Okay, but I got Lamar Jackson. This is

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Speaker 3: how we're gonna cater the team. And you know as

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Speaker 3: well as I know a lot of times teams, well,

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Speaker 3: this is how I do it. So you better fit this,

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Speaker 3: You better be this square that can fit in this

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Speaker 3: round hole, or you know.

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Speaker 4: What I mean.

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Speaker 3: And I do think John Harball is the type that,

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Speaker 3: let's just say Chador was able to get some play,

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Speaker 3: he would say, all right, we're gonna try to find

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Speaker 3: what works for Shador. Let's cater to Chaduur. And that's

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Speaker 3: a compliment to John Harbor, and that I do think

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Speaker 3: he does well because Lamar Jackson, some other teams, Roger

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Speaker 3: would have had him trying to be a receiver, because

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Speaker 3: they would have had the brain with brand of the

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Speaker 3: forward site and the wherewithal to say, let's cater to him.

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Speaker 4: All right, So there you have it. We got again.

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Speaker 3: We got Ben Arthur getting ready to join us here shortly.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk some more NFL headlines with him right now,

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Speaker 3: Isaac Longkrown Island.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna get you sett on trending.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

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Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm

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Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: It is The Odd Couple, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington, Rob

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Speaker 3: g here on this worship Wednesday, and we are joined

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Speaker 3: now by Ben Arthur. He is Fox Sports NFL reporter

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Speaker 3: Ben Why Arthur on ex give him a follow?

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Speaker 4: Ben? What's up man? How you doing?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing well. How are you guys doing?

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Speaker 4: We're doing excellent man. And uh, obviously he's been some

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Speaker 4: good football.

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Speaker 3: Here we are at the end of week four, getting

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Speaker 3: ready to gear up for week five.

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Speaker 4: You know what you know, Rob g did. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you heard.

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Speaker 3: We just had a conversation. We're talking about Shador. We've

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Speaker 3: talked about this, we talked about that, we talked about him.

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Speaker 3: One of the conversations nobody really having us about the

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Speaker 3: number one pick, cam Ward? Why is nobody talking about

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Speaker 3: cam Ward?

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Speaker 4: The number one pick?

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Speaker 3: The team isn't great, they would be something else. As

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Speaker 3: he said, I won't say if you called the team

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Speaker 3: something else.

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Speaker 4: What do you make of just.

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Speaker 3: Where he is so far and the Titans just as

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Speaker 3: a whole does far in this season.

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Speaker 6: I think Cam is coming along right. I think he's

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Speaker 6: having all the ups and downs that you would expect

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Speaker 6: young rookie quarterback to have in the NFL, especially with

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Speaker 6: considering the supporting cast or lack thereof, that he has.

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Speaker 6: Right like, the offensive line that they had a lot

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Speaker 6: of hopes for it here in Tennessee hasn't lived up

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Speaker 6: to expectations. Injuries have played a role, but the old

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Speaker 6: line hasn't been good. He's really not getting what he

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Speaker 6: needs from Calvin Ridley, the other pass catchers haven't really

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Speaker 6: stepped up to the plate, and the team is just bad.

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Speaker 6: Right Like, the defense has struggled, the play calling has

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Speaker 6: been an issue. I think everyone knows about this rapidly

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Speaker 6: heating up seat that Bryan Callahander coaches on the There's

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Speaker 6: a lot of dysfunction and ineptitude around him, and and look,

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Speaker 6: he's had his own struggles along with it too, But

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Speaker 6: I think his demeanor has been really consistent and even

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Speaker 6: though you know, hasn't necessarily been great just from a

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Speaker 6: you know, football side, of things. Just overall, I think

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Speaker 6: each of the games so far, I think you've seen

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Speaker 6: one or two plays where it really makes you think, Man,

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Speaker 6: if the Titans can really figure it out around him,

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Speaker 6: they might have something there. And so that's kind of

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Speaker 6: my takeaway with Cam to this point. It's still very early, right,

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Speaker 6: Like sometimes we have to think like it's only four

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Speaker 6: games in and and the numbers are bad, right. I'm

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Speaker 6: not going to sugar code that, but a lot of

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Speaker 6: it has to do with what's been going wrong around him.

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Speaker 6: But then some of it, too is the growing pains

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Speaker 6: as a young quarterback trying to figure out with the

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Speaker 6: team with a team that isn't very good. But like

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Speaker 6: I said, I do think there are flashes there and

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Speaker 6: I think in time he could figure it out well.

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Speaker 5: Ben, Speaking of those Titans, the team they lost to

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Speaker 5: last week was the Houston Texans, and prior to last Sunday,

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Speaker 5: the Texans had not cracked the twenty point threshold in

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Speaker 5: seven of the previous nine games. Two years ago, we

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Speaker 5: thought CJ. Shaou was the next big thing. Nico Collins

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Speaker 5: is great. What's gone wrong with this Texans offense over

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Speaker 5: the last year or so.

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Speaker 6: It's a few things. I think the biggest thing is

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Speaker 6: the offensive line, right Like, they the issues we've seen

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Speaker 6: this year were the same issues they had last year,

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Speaker 6: Right Like, I think what was it the divisional round

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Speaker 6: game they had against the Chiefs was a lasting image

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Speaker 6: for a lot of people, if I remember correctly. He

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Speaker 6: was sacked seven or eight times in that game, and

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Speaker 6: so they kind of entered the offseason needing to address that,

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Speaker 6: and they just never really seemed to address it adequately.

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Speaker 6: And then you trade away CJ's blind type protector, your

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Speaker 6: kind of perennial Pro Bowl left tackle, Laramie Tunsel, and

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Speaker 6: you're banking on some bargain.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 6: You have a rookie playing left tackle, and so it's

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Speaker 6: just been a lot of issues in that regard. And

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Speaker 6: then you add the fact that they have a new

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Speaker 6: play caller in Nick Kayley who's never called plays before.

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Speaker 6: He's trying to figure it out. And then they haven't

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Speaker 6: the run game has been so inconsistent. Right You have

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Speaker 6: Joe Mixon on injured reserve and it's unclear when he's

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Speaker 6: going to come back, and so CJ has had to

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Speaker 6: kind of live in these third and long situations. And

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Speaker 6: if they were able to run the ball better on

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Speaker 6: early downs, they would be in much better situations for

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Speaker 6: him to to make something happen. And so I think

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Speaker 6: it's all those things, right. I think CJ, of course

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Speaker 6: isn't blameless, right Like I think he has missed some

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Speaker 6: throws that he would not that we saw him make

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Speaker 6: just in his incredib rookie year. So I think there

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Speaker 6: is some things there, But I think there's so much

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Speaker 6: going on around him.

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Speaker 4: The O line.

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Speaker 6: Between the lack of investment and they haven't just been

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Speaker 6: good overall, the lack of a run game, and then

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Speaker 6: the play calling hiccups with their new OC. I think

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Speaker 6: all of those have contributed to kind of their predicament, right,

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Speaker 6: And it's kind of unfortunate for them because their defense

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Speaker 6: is I think their Super Bowl gliber defense. It was

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Speaker 6: the same situation last year. It's just like they're keeping

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Speaker 6: opponents down right, like you can't you really can't score

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Speaker 6: points on them. But if in turn your offense can't

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Speaker 6: score any points, you're not going to go very far

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Speaker 6: with that. And so I think that's kind of in

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Speaker 6: a nutshell what their issues do.

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Speaker 3: Yep, I've been saying that same thing, Ben Ben Arthur

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports NFL reporter. I've been saying that same thing

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Speaker 3: throughout the day, that they keep being in games the

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Speaker 3: last year and a half, they you know, almost year

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Speaker 3: and a half, they keep being right there. The offense

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Speaker 3: can't solidify and make those wins. I mean the defense

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Speaker 3: last year it got five owner was turnovers from the

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Speaker 3: Lions and didn't do anything with it. So, you know,

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Speaker 3: I switched to another team, ROGI, and I know I

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Speaker 3: was thinking the Colts might be able to be something

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Speaker 3: this season.

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Speaker 4: Then I switched off them, and I want.

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Speaker 5: You were so close. You were so close.

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Speaker 3: I was right there. Tell me what the heck the

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Speaker 3: Tight or the Colts are? Are they real deal? I

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Speaker 3: mean they could have been four and ho almost or

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Speaker 3: is this just calm your horses, hold on.

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Speaker 4: It's early in the season.

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Speaker 6: I think it's it's both of those, right. I do

666
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Speaker 6: think it's early in the season, and that they weren't

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Speaker 6: going to continue what they did those first three games

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Speaker 6: when they were like the best offense ever through three games,

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Speaker 6: like never, like not punning and everything. They were gonna

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Speaker 6: cool down from that. But at the same time, I

671
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Speaker 6: don't think they're gonna revert to like what they've been

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Speaker 6: the last couple of years. I think this can be

673
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Speaker 6: a good team, a really good team, especially if Daniel

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Speaker 6: Jones keeps playing at this level. I think we're seeing

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Speaker 6: the power of just being for these quarterbacks who are

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Speaker 6: kind of given up on in certain situations, having so

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Speaker 6: much against them in their first stop or whatever, and

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Speaker 6: just kind of maybe a lack of, you know, losing

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Speaker 6: their confidence right coming into a new situation where you

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Speaker 6: have a fresh slate. And I think we're seeing that

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Speaker 6: with Daniel Jones, who you know, they did lose, as

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Speaker 6: you kind of alluded to the Rams this past week,

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Speaker 6: but I still thought Daniel Jones played relatively well, even

684
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Speaker 6: though I think he did have a couple turnovers, but

685
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Speaker 6: the totality of his season so far has been very good.

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Speaker 6: I think he has his confidence back. You see some

687
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Speaker 6: of the throws he's trying into these tight windows. I mean,

688
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Speaker 6: you just didn't see this Daniel Jones in New York.

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Speaker 6: I also think he has the best supporting cast that

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Speaker 6: he's ever had in his career. I think the Colts

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Speaker 6: have a very at least nationally, they have a very

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Speaker 6: underrated supporting cast. I mean, I think Jonathan Taylor speaks

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Speaker 6: for himself in terms of being like a top five

694
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Speaker 6: caliber running back. But Michael Pittman Junior is a very

695
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Speaker 6: good receiver, a number one receiver. Josh Downs is a

696
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Speaker 6: very good slot receiver. I think Tyler Warren could be

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Speaker 6: one of the best tight ends just moving forward for

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Speaker 6: the next several years. I mean, he's that good. So

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Speaker 6: he has some pieces around him. They have a great

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Speaker 6: offensive line as well on the run game, as I said,

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Speaker 6: And I think he and Shane Steichen are so much

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Speaker 6: alike too, just from some of the things I've heard

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Speaker 6: just about how much they vibe and how they see

704
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 6: football the same. I mean, all these things are contributing

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Speaker 6: to kind of what we're seeing. And they do have

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Speaker 6: some things to clean up. That fumble by Ady Mitchell

707
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Speaker 6: was something at the goal line or on that seventy

708
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 6: six or should have been seventy six yard touchdown, And

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Speaker 6: they have some defensive issues that they're working through right now.

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Speaker 6: But I think this is a good team. I think

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Speaker 6: they're going to be in the playoff mix down the stretch.

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Speaker 6: Something we haven't really been able to say about the

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Speaker 6: Bolts for a little while now.

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Speaker 5: Man, we got about a minute left. I would ask

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Speaker 5: this one quick about the Jaggs Travis Hunter. The early

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Speaker 5: returns have been, you know, to be determined. He's just,

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Speaker 5: you know, he's trying to do both two different things

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Speaker 5: at once. And the coaches had said one of the

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Speaker 5: reasons why it hasn't really popped is because they don't

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Speaker 5: want to overwhelm him with information. Considering what they gave

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Speaker 5: up to get him, What do you think is the

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Speaker 5: best plan of attack so they can maximize his other

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Speaker 5: worldly talents?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think ultimately, like you kind of alluded to,

725
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Speaker 6: like you have to eventually get a return on that investment, right,

726
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Speaker 6: you don't you make him number two overall because you

727
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Speaker 6: think he has pro bowl potential at two different positions

728
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Speaker 6: right at the same time. Though he is a rookie, right,

729
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Speaker 6: he's figuring it all out. There are bumps and bruises

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Speaker 6: along the way, and so I think the entire development

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Speaker 6: process is kind of you're constantly reassessing as you go along.

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Speaker 6: If he's being overwhelmed or has some things that he's

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Speaker 6: struggling with, you maybe need to slow down and take

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Speaker 6: it back a few steps. There's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 6: I think if we're making a big deal of Oh,

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Speaker 6: they're not getting a big return on their investment right now.

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Speaker 6: At the end of the day, it's been four games.

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Speaker 6: Like I think a lot of people who've been talking

739
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Speaker 6: like that, we need to kind of slow the horses

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Speaker 6: a bit. I mean, obviously, in time, you do want

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Speaker 6: that return on investment. But he is a rookie and

742
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Speaker 6: there's there's a process that he's going to have to

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Speaker 6: go through, So I'm not gonna paint him out to

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Speaker 6: be anything just quite yet.

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Speaker 4: Well, there you have it, hey, Ben Man. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll all see when Travis Hunter gets to get

747
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Speaker 3: more time and see what he've develops into.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Ben, appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Thank you guys, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: No doubt.

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Speaker 3: All right, Last Call on the Way eight seven seven

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Speaker 3: ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven ninety nine on

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Speaker 3: Fox couldn't get in throughout the show.

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Speaker 4: It's a chance to do so. It's the Odd Couple

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Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: It's last call time on the Odd Couple. If you

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Speaker 2: had a take and couldn't get in show, Fox, hurry up,

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Speaker 2: Robin Kelvin, gotta get out of here.

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Speaker 3: All right, Here we go three two, Maybe a preseason underway.

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Speaker 3: You can add something about Lebron Kawhi gee if you

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Speaker 3: want so, give me a couple of tracks, one with

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Speaker 3: the ad lib and the other with just a straight line.

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Speaker 4: All right, here we go. Three two.

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Speaker 3: NBA preseason is underway. All right, that'll be just a

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Speaker 3: straight line. Here we go. NBA preseason is underway. Can't

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Speaker 3: wait to see what Lebron and Luca look like. You

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Speaker 3: got the Clippers with Kawhi healthy, SGA, a finals MVP,

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Speaker 3: and a regular season MVP. It's gonna be a great season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess that's it. I'll give another one

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Speaker 3: if he wants, all right.

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Speaker 4: Three two.

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Speaker 3: NBA preseason is underweight, and man, I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: There's so many stories lines.

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Speaker 3: Three two NBA preseason is underweight, and man, I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: There's so many storylines this season. Have no idea who's

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00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: gonna win, who's gonna be MVP? Can the no no no,

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Speaker 3: keep keep it rolling?

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Speaker 5: Ooker?

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Speaker 3: Can the Thunder repeat? Will the Lakers do better this season?

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Speaker 3: How does KD look with the Rockets? A whole lot

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Speaker 3: of storylines. I can't wait to have the season start.

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Speaker 4: Now. That's funny too,