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Speaker 3: Hey guys, Happy Friday. How's everybody doing.

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Speaker 4: Hey, good Mornerful, how are you, Griffin?

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Speaker 5: We just discovered as munched on a zen.

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Speaker 6: The six milligram.

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Speaker 7: We're talking about Young Republican group chat, So I'm getting

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Speaker 7: a characters.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I was at that Oval Office press conference yesterday

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Speaker 5: and I was watching Bobby Kennedy and he was going

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Speaker 5: to town on his.

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Speaker 3: ZEN the sperm count press conference.

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Speaker 5: Yes, the spermcount press press conference. You have to have

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Speaker 5: Zen if you're talking about spermcount and you're not nicotine

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Speaker 5: to the Gills, then you're doing it wrong.

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Speaker 6: They put Sperman dose.

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Speaker 8: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Point, Now, anyway, a bunch of stuff. I think we're

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Speaker 2: gonna start with Zoron's debate right last night, Well, I

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Speaker 2: mean there were other people there. Obviously, there's a new

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Speaker 2: poll I don't know if you guys saw from Fox

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Speaker 2: News that has him over fifty percent. He's actually gained

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Speaker 2: ground since Eric Adams dropped out. He's the one who's

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Speaker 2: actually benefited, which is hilarious. So he's a fifty two percent.

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Speaker 2: Cuomo was at like thirty twenty eight something like that,

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Speaker 2: and when they tested on the issues, he beats Cuomo

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Speaker 2: on every issue, including like crime.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's over.

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Speaker 4: You can imagine if you're still supporting Eric Adams at

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Speaker 4: this point in Eric Adams' career, you're not actually going

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Speaker 4: to move over to Cuomo. You're not looking for a

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Speaker 4: Cuomo type at that point.

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Speaker 3: That's right, right, yes, and people.

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Speaker 4: Your Sliwa or your Zorien at that point.

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Speaker 2: If people don't understand how much these people like hate

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Speaker 2: each other too, you know, it's not like like hates

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Speaker 2: Andrew Cuomo. So the idea he would drop out of

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Speaker 2: the race in order to assist Andrew Cuomo was always

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Speaker 2: somewhat preposterous. But you have to know something about these

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 7: That's a great example, which leads to our first clip

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Speaker 7: where Sewa calls up, calls out Cuomo about who will

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Speaker 7: stand up to Trump.

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Speaker 6: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 10: Why because I said to him, don't you dare? We

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Speaker 10: don't need it? And he backed down and he will again.

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Speaker 8: The president is going to back down to you, Andrew Cuomo.

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Speaker 8: I know you think you're the toughest, but let me

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Speaker 8: tell you something. You lost your own primary right, you

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Speaker 8: were rejected by your Democrat. You have a difficult understanding

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Speaker 8: what the term is not star.

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Speaker 9: You're not going to stand up.

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Speaker 3: I agree with Curtis and he.

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Speaker 10: Can't stand up to Donald Trump.

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Speaker 8: Who negotiate with him. Only the people of New York

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Speaker 8: City will lose.

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Speaker 3: Why so good knocked him right on his took.

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Speaker 5: Us makes you want to live in New York City?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 3: You know it to be? It does?

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Speaker 2: It makes me like so nostalgic for when I did

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Speaker 2: live in New York City and Sleiwa I used to

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Speaker 2: Fox News as Democrat is the easiest place to get on.

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Speaker 2: So I was on Fox News and Fox Business all

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Speaker 2: the time, and Sleiwa was a regular character, especially on

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Speaker 3: And he's just such a.

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Speaker 2: Specific New York character that you can't help but feel

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Speaker 5: I love people who actually believe in what they're saying,

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Speaker 5: you know, Like that's a different to Crystal's point, it's

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Speaker 5: He's like a It's like if Bernie Sanders were a

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Bernie with that hat would go hard true, be

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Speaker 7: Sleeve was doing this funny thing where he would gesture

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Speaker 7: to both Cuomo and Zoron and say, Cuomo, you're the architect, uh,

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Speaker 7: Zoron you're the you're the apprentice, and they're both the same,

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Speaker 7: Trump will pull the funding for New York City.

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Speaker 9: Hmm.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, so trying to use like Trump has threatened

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Speaker 2: use that as like, you know, his own campaign argument,

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Speaker 2: like using the mob boss's threat against soor On. H

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Speaker 2: how much of the so I didn't watch the whole thing,

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Speaker 2: how many how many Israel questions were there? How much

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Speaker 7: It was only like forty five minutes of the first

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Speaker 7: let's take a look. And you know, it revolved mainly

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Speaker 7: outs here from Cuomo that include another streamer that he

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Speaker 10: I did deploy President Trump and his administration. I think

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Speaker 10: it was a great accomplishment. I hope the piece hold

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Speaker 10: the Chiron the assemblyman will not announced Hamas announce Hassan Piker,

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Speaker 7: All right, so that's Hassan reacting to it a little bit.

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Speaker 7: If you're confused on the.

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Speaker 2: Post, will you condemn Hassan Piker, Sun Piker Hamas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but seriously think about this. Let's think

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Speaker 2: Cuomo went hard on this direction, not Hassan Biker specifically,

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Speaker 2: supporting Zoran, So how did you not learn from that?

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Speaker 2: That actually part of Zoran's appeal was that he had

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Speaker 2: a different perspective on Israel and was always able to

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Speaker 2: like pivot back to yeah, but with like why why

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Speaker 3: How did he not learn any of that?

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Speaker 2: And who is in his ear advising him that here

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Speaker 2: we are, what two three weeks out from the from

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Speaker 2: election day that you should be raising Hassan Piker as

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Speaker 2: a major issue, Like, do you think that New Yorkers

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Speaker 2: New Yorkers are divided along whether or not you will

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Speaker 2: condemn Hassan Piker just on every I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's just complete insanity to me.

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Speaker 6: Or steel Man Ryan, you go first, and then I'll

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: I just say, if that didn't work in the primary,

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Speaker 4: I can't think of who the voter is. To Chrystal's point,

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Speaker 4: who it's going to work on like in the general

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Speaker 4: by just dialing it up a little bit more. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it just doesn't make sense unless Cuomo was thinking about

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Speaker 4: his post like mayoral campaign career. Like when he was

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Speaker 4: thrown out of the Governor's mansion, the first thing he

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Speaker 4: did is get a whole bunch of pro Israel money

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Speaker 4: together and set up this organization that he said was

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Speaker 4: going to combat anti Semitism. At the time, Scott Stringer said,

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Speaker 4: this sounds like a fake vehicle for his mayoral campaign,

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Speaker 4: and he's not actually going to spend any of this

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Speaker 4: money fighting anti Semitism. Scott Stringer turned out to be

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Speaker 4: precisely correct. It became a vehicle for his mayoral campaign.

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Speaker 4: In the meantime, he volunteered to serve as one of

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Speaker 4: ben Benjamin Netanya, who's defense attorneys at his Crime against

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Speaker 4: Humanity tribute. Incredible, So you can imagine like, if that's

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Speaker 4: governor's mansion, he's probably going back to that well after

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Speaker 4: the mayoral race. So this may be less about something

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Speaker 4: that's going to work for him strategically in the campaign

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Speaker 4: and more like, well, let me just kind of phone

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Speaker 4: the runway for my landing here, gotcha.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting, And that Hassan Piker, he would see his

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Speaker 2: n piker is useful to him and setting himself up

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Speaker 2: for that post failure career is interesting. I don't know,

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Speaker 6: Here's an disavowing US on genocide.

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Speaker 11: And I find the comments that Hassan made on nine

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I agree with all that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, taking it rough. Ryan's probably right, Crystal's probably right.

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Speaker 7: I guess if you were. If I'm putting myself in

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Speaker 7: is a Zionist, and they see a content creator as

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Speaker 7: big as Hassan or whatever associating so closely with the campaign,

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Speaker 7: I guess it makes sense to mention it. Like if

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Speaker 7: I were to say the reverse or reverse example, Let's

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Speaker 7: say there's a right wing politician that hangs out with

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Speaker 7: Nick Fuentes a lot, maybe someone would mention that on stage.

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Speaker 5: They would definitely mention it on stage. But I mean,

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Speaker 5: this was the tactic that ones are on Mom Donnie

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Speaker 5: the primary against all the odds. Granted, Cuomo's a terrible candidate,

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Speaker 5: saw him just do again on that Martha McCollum interview

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Speaker 5: on Fox News. Ask him about Israel and Hamas he

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Speaker 5: returns to affordability almost immediately. He does not waste breath

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Speaker 5: on the culture war trap questions. And so I'm not

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Speaker 5: even saying some of those questions are entirely objectionable, unlike

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Speaker 5: these debate questions. But how Andrew Cuomo has like the

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Speaker 5: lack of humility to learn from that is astound. I

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Speaker 5: mean it's not astounding, it's not surprising or anything like that.

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Speaker 5: But he had this example on a silver platter of this,

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Speaker 5: like New York was crying out for someone who just

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Speaker 5: would talk about making life easier and cheaper in the

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Speaker 5: Like that's all he has to do. I get it,

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Speaker 5: I get it. He's behind double digits, though, so you'd

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Speaker 5: think maybe he would come up with a new tactic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the only thing. I think the only

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Speaker 2: thing that could save him now is like a three

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand word bill Ackman post. That's I think the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a dollar for work actman.

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Speaker 4: Came up the debate. Yeah, I'm done. He made fun

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Speaker 2: You know, I saw him in the Martha McCallum interview

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Speaker 3: Just I will apologize.

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Speaker 2: And by doing it so forth rightly, it kind of

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Speaker 5: I think that's totally right.

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Speaker 9: They want to broad public apology for the things that

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, I'll apologize to police officers right here, because this

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Speaker 5: All right, kay, just it does a much like slicker,

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Speaker 5: don't know if you guys have the same take. When

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I agree, Crystal. When you just say yes,

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think too obviously there's a you know, a

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Speaker 2: in Fox News Poole, he's actually leading among the candidates

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Speaker 2: I also think there's a governing reason to do it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he is going to need to work with

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Speaker 6: One of those Yeah, Rian, what you got you now?

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Speaker 4: Just one other thing from the poll that Crystal mentioned. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: two for Cuomo, thirty eight for Mom Donnie, and thirteen

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Speaker 2: VA, he is edging, but he is edging Mom Donnie. Interesting, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: But it's really within the margin of era there, soaking

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Speaker 5: Also such a statement on like if you told somebody

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Speaker 5: a couple of years ago, queer liberation means defunding the

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Speaker 5: police is going to be ahead in the mayoral race

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Speaker 5: and probably is going to be the They would be like, well,

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Speaker 5: what had to happen for that to be the reality?

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Speaker 5: And it's like you ran Andrew Cuomo. You ran Andrew

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Speaker 5: Cuomo and got everything behind him. Because the crime issue

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Speaker 5: testament a to how Mom Donnie has handled it obviously,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Zoren is going to be such an important

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Speaker 3: I have no doubt that there's going to be.

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Speaker 2: A huge spectacle that we are all you know, in

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Speaker 2: he charmed the McCallum in that interview on Fox News,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, not a lot of suspense especially. I don't think

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Speaker 7: be remiss because Sager's not here. He would want me

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Speaker 7: I think would be a big deal breaker for Zoran.

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Speaker 6: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 5: Have you ever purchased anything in a cannabis shop? And

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Speaker 11: Mister Mumdani, I have I have purchased marijuana at a

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Speaker 2: Feels like such a dated question tooh, okay, like who

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Speaker 6: Really?

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Speaker 4: Well, sliwah, that gave an interesting answer. He said, after

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 7: He also said Ryan that he also that he Sliva

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that was the question is if you have

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing is Sleewa actually remembers like

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Speaker 2: He's just non plus by it. Yeah, clearly he well

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Cuomo said Laguardi is the best mayor in

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Speaker 3: Who Zoron really?

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Speaker 2: You know, admires and sort of models himself after and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well and oh yeah, here's the quote, oh yeah, quote.

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Speaker 2: Some needs to make a movie about this man's life. Honestly, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: He has nineteen cats nineteen audience go off in the comments.

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Speaker 7: If Sleiwan needs a breaking points interview for this election.

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Speaker 5: Why do you stop?

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Speaker 4: That's right, definitely have them on.

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Speaker 7: Cuomo would also, like, you know, make claims about his candidacy,

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Speaker 7: You know, they used to get drunk, but now they don't,

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Speaker 7: He's just such a facet of New York and he

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Speaker 3: So you're getting your west.

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Speaker 6: So should we move on?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What do we got next?

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Speaker 7: So, folks, we've got a Republican group chat that leaked

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Speaker 7: that we wanted to mention here. This is an article

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Speaker 7: from Politico, uh that says, I love Hitler. Leaked messes

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Speaker 7: expose Young Republicans racist chat. Thousands of private messages reveal

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Speaker 7: young GOP leaders joking about gas chambers, slavery, and rape.

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Speaker 6: They've got a graphic here.

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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna read them all, but I'll just I'll

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Speaker 7: read a few to give some texture some of the quotes.

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Speaker 7: A lot of these are from New York Young Republicans,

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Speaker 7: and this is kind of surrounding a election for the

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Speaker 7: next leader of like the National Young Republican Party and

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Speaker 7: sort of a group chat discussing the race.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 7: Some of these tweets say everyone that votes know is

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Speaker 7: going to the gas chamber. You're giving Nationals too much

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Speaker 7: credit and expecting the jew to be honest. If we

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Speaker 7: ever had a leak of this chat, we would be

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Speaker 7: cooked for real, for real. I'm ready to watch people

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Speaker 7: burn now and some other you know, some other slurs

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Speaker 7: and just some you know, other general stuff about Jewish

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Speaker 7: people and black people. What are we to make of this, folks?

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Speaker 7: What are we do? Do we want to start with

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Speaker 7: Emily the youngest Republican on here?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 9: Can I?

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Speaker 8: Also?

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Speaker 2: I was just this one thing because I am flattered

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Speaker 2: in a sense by the young Republican moniker because apparently

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Speaker 2: these people were up to the age of forty. So yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to make that clear. When we're talking about

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Speaker 2: young Republicans, these are like, by and large, professionals who

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Speaker 2: have you know, chief of staff or this or that politician,

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Speaker 2: who have actual roles in Republican politics. So this isn't

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Speaker 2: just you know, some seventeen year old gropers mouthing off

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Speaker 2: in some chat.

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Speaker 5: Right, No, because jd Vance I think, referred to them

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Speaker 5: as kids, and a lot of people have because you

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Speaker 5: hear young Republicans and a lot of people confuse it

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Speaker 5: with College Republicans, but actually somehow the Young Republicans are

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Speaker 5: actually much less influential and consequential than the College Republicans,

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Speaker 5: so they have real jobs though, I just mean the

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Speaker 5: organization like Young Republicans. Why ours as it's called itself,

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Speaker 5: is like I don't even know if it's like an

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Speaker 5: open secret. I don't even think it's secret. Like they're

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Speaker 5: so powerless and unimportant. Now that said Griffin, the quotes

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Speaker 5: that you read off they are like being they think

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Speaker 5: they're being Mimi and edge lordy, and it is so

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Speaker 5: cringey and I think probably does probably probably is rooted

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Speaker 5: not just in them trying to be edge lords and funny,

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Speaker 5: but like the repetitive nature of it is, like there's

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Speaker 5: there's some genuinely pretty gross sentiments I think lurking beneath

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Speaker 5: the surface of whatever they're doing for the Young Republicans.

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Speaker 5: And the memes actually in response have been excellent too

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Speaker 5: of how much of a quote master race these these

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Speaker 5: guys really are you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? To show you can show some of the pictures.

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Speaker 5: Yes. Favorite Crystal's favorite is that they someone posted one

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Speaker 5: of the great tweets I think of all time that

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Speaker 5: they have bodies built to survive a golf cart crash,

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Speaker 5: and I.

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Speaker 3: Was a little offended by that. That hit home for personally. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I took that a hole personally as a survivor. Where's

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Speaker 3: the where's the lesbian wedding photo one?

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Speaker 4: We have that one?

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Speaker 2: Keep going, that's there, it is, that's the one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I I have a lot

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Speaker 2: of thoughts on this. I guess the first thing is like,

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Speaker 2: this is the least surprising thing of all time. I mean,

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Speaker 2: look at who is one of the most popular creators

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Speaker 2: for young right wing young right wing men.

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Speaker 3: Is Nick Fantees.

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Speaker 2: So they just had a There's another scandal going on

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Speaker 2: this week where some Republican congressman's young stafford posted an

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Speaker 2: American flag with the swastika. There's a like there was

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Speaker 2: actually a Nazi problem among not just among young Republicans,

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Speaker 2: because we also have a DHS account that's tweeting out

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Speaker 2: things like remigration. We have an administration that is changing

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Speaker 2: the refugee policy to only in like basically German Nazis

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Speaker 2: who are being quote unquote persecuted for being too anti immigrant,

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Speaker 2: Which is a little weird that you're bringing in immigrants

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Speaker 2: because they're anti immigrant, but anyway them and like the

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Speaker 2: white South Africans, you have Trump openly, you know, acknowledging, oh,

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Speaker 2: we can't let Stephen Miller's truest feelings come out because

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Speaker 2: they would be utterly repellent to the American public. And

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Speaker 2: Trump reportedly joking in a private meeting in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four about how Stephen Miller only wants a hundred million

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Speaker 2: people in the country and they should all look like him. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, if anything, I'm shocked that it's not even

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Speaker 2: worse than what these what these messages ultimately are. And

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Speaker 2: I think Hanania's piece on like the based ritual in

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Speaker 2: the Republican Party probably captures the dynamic the most. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's the inverse of what was happening in progressive spaces

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Speaker 2: during pro Woke, where there was like a virtue signaling

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Speaker 2: cycle where you know, everyone's like positioning to be the

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Speaker 2: most pure and the most lefty and the most like,

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Speaker 2: you know, identitarian whatever.

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Speaker 3: And on the right there's this, you know.

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Speaker 2: This ritual of like who can be the most defensive

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Speaker 2: and that's how you get your clout points. And then

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Speaker 2: you know, it starts off as like a meme and

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Speaker 2: a joke, and it ends up with Steven Miller in

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Speaker 2: the White House with Ice agents raiding cities and doing

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Speaker 2: Kavanaugh stops and picking up anyone who looks Latino, and

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Speaker 2: you know, is in a quote unquote true American in

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Speaker 2: his conception blood and soil conception of what that should be.

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Speaker 4: And after after Vance kind of jumped in and gave

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Speaker 4: permission to defend these kids, kids. He was very clever

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Speaker 4: and calling them kids, these young men. Uh you you

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Speaker 4: saw like a whole bunch of other people, Matt Walsh

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Speaker 4: and others, you know, saying we need to stick together,

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Speaker 4: like we need to do, not throw these people under

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Speaker 4: the bus. If we throw them on the bus there,

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Speaker 4: you know, you know, first they came for the Nazis

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Speaker 4: in the in the in the Republican youth group.

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Speaker 2: Chat, and then all the all the young Republicans were

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Speaker 2: gone because they were all Nazis, right.

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Speaker 4: And then so Ben Shapiro. I want to bring him

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Speaker 4: in because he had an interesting pushback. Griff and I

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Speaker 4: have it. If you don't have it, I got it

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Speaker 4: right here.

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Speaker 5: You have it, okay, Well, and let me just say

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Speaker 5: this is like I'll tee this up. This is a

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Speaker 5: long running debate in right wing circles for years now,

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Speaker 5: which is that and maybe you guys have picked up

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Speaker 5: on anyone from the outside, but that the media baits

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Speaker 5: you into and actually some people on the left thing

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Speaker 5: this to the media is baiting you into tossing other

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Speaker 5: Republicans under the bus, and blah blah blah. It's like,

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Speaker 5: first of all, you guys are in media like this

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Speaker 5: is sort of where where Ben gets a ton of pushback,

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Speaker 5: is that he punt. He's willing to punch right. And

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Speaker 5: so that's that conversation that they're having. And they have

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Speaker 5: a show where they disagree with each other over the

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Speaker 5: Daily Wire, where they fight about things, and so they

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Speaker 5: fought about this this week. Basically, I just say that

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Speaker 5: because some people have been posting clips of Matt Walsh

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Speaker 5: being like, here's Matt Walsh getting lectured by Ben Shapiro.

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Speaker 5: But like the whole show is them fighting each other.

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Speaker 5: It's called friendly fire.

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Speaker 9: Again.

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Speaker 12: I'm not even disagreeing with the motivations of the Politico story.

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Speaker 12: In fact, even on my show today I talked about

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Speaker 12: the motivations of the Politico story, which Matt I agree

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Speaker 12: are completely scrollless and designed to distract from the sort

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Speaker 12: of violent rhetoricquisine from the left, but it has led to,

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Speaker 12: I think a reactionary response on some parts of the

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Speaker 12: right to say there should be no policing ever at all,

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Speaker 12: no social consequences should ever attend to things that are

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Speaker 12: said on the right, that it's basically just pure my

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Speaker 12: side versus yours. The problem I have is number one,

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Speaker 12: I think that's moral, and number two, I don't think

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Speaker 12: that's pragmatic. I don't think that's moral because I think

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Speaker 12: that there are things that get said on the right

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Speaker 12: that are really, really, really ugly, and pretending those away

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Speaker 12: doesn't make them go away. I think that they're rising.

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Speaker 12: I think that they're getting more common. I know that

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Speaker 12: my death threats from that side are getting more common.

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Speaker 12: I know I have more security because of that. And

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Speaker 12: it's not just from the left. I have lots of

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Speaker 12: security from the left, and I also get lots of

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Speaker 12: security from the right. Matt, I think a little bit

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Speaker 12: earlier today you tweeted that kind of your litmus test

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Speaker 12: is the people who are trying to kill you, and

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Speaker 12: I totally get that. I also have that litmus test.

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Speaker 12: The difference is that that I think that if somebody

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Speaker 12: tries to kill Matt, there's a good shot that it's

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Speaker 12: going to be a leftist. If somebody tries to kill me,

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Speaker 12: it's a freaking Agatha Christie novel. I just don't know

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Speaker 12: which direction the bullet is coming from at this point,

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Speaker 12: given the sort of various and sundry radical extremes that exist.

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Speaker 12: I'm not going to say that the right is equivalent

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Speaker 12: to the left in this respect, because I don't think

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Speaker 12: it's been mainstream to nearly the same effect on the

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Speaker 12: right that it has been on the left. But to

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Speaker 12: pretend that it has not infiltrated a lot of very

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Speaker 12: important spaces I think is sort of whistling past the grave.

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Speaker 5: Well, and the other part of that, I mean, I

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Speaker 5: will say, I'd like speak to college conservative college students

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Speaker 5: and groups a lot, And I don't think what those

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Speaker 5: wires are doing is common. I don't think it's entirely

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Speaker 5: out of the ordinary in the like based ritual sense

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Speaker 5: that Hanania. And it's a lot of like people who

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Speaker 5: are in there, notice, like their twenties, like people who

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Speaker 5: were in college during Trump one point zero or COVID,

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Speaker 5: and it does like that it is real and it

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Speaker 5: is bad, and people have to learn that it's not

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Speaker 5: funny to keep one upping to the point where then

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Speaker 5: you've seated yourself for actually having beliefs blossom out of

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Speaker 5: that ground because you're so buried in these layers of

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Speaker 5: irony and like quote ironic racism and you just they

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Speaker 5: get lost in the sauce. And that is a real thing.

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Speaker 5: And Ben's not wrong about that. So uh, it's it's

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Speaker 5: a huge debate though, and people are yeah, I mean

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Speaker 5: not while and JD Vance, the very online types are

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Speaker 5: very much on the other side of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy, It's totally crazy. And I've I've mentioned

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Speaker 4: this uplunge before, but you know that the Israeli strategic decision,

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Speaker 4: you know, to basically when Obama was president and was

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Speaker 4: pushing for the Iran Deal to break with the Democratic Party. Like,

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Speaker 4: the thing that made them so strong for so long

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Speaker 4: is that, like the NRA, they had massive support in

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Speaker 4: both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. Once the

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Speaker 4: NRA went full partisan Republican, it was actually only a

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Speaker 4: matter of time until they kind of started to fall apart.

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Speaker 4: Like there's real strength and having a choke hold on

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Speaker 4: both parties. But the Israelis were like, they would much

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Speaker 4: rather isolate Iran and attack Iran than allow Democrats to

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Speaker 4: do an Iran nuclear deals. They break with Democrats and

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Speaker 4: they're like, we're throwing all our eggs in the Republican basket.

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Speaker 4: And I remember thinking of the time, really like is

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Speaker 4: this a well thought out alliance? Like do you know

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Speaker 4: some of the undercurrents that are inside this Republican party?

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Speaker 4: And you're the ones that are constantly saying Zionism and

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Speaker 4: Judaism are linked, and so you're going to link up

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Speaker 4: with a coalition which has a non trivial portion of

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Speaker 4: genuinely anti Semitic people, and you're telling them if they're

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Speaker 4: anti Semitic, then they're also anti Zionists. So not so

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Speaker 4: they kind of went the other way. A lot of

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Speaker 4: these young Republicans are like, oh, well, I am actually

659
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Speaker 4: so therefore I'm also anti Zionist. It was it was

660
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Speaker 4: just from a strategic perspective, it was like it was

661
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Speaker 4: headed in an obvious direction.

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Speaker 2: Although you made the point before Ryan that you know,

663
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Speaker 2: in some ways Netanyahoo and other Israeli politicians benefit, like

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Speaker 2: the whole Israel project benefits from genuine rise and anti

665
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Speaker 2: Semitism because it bolsters their argument that you have to

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Speaker 2: have Israel to have a safe place for Jews, I

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Speaker 2: mean the other thing. And you were making this point

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Speaker 2: about imagine if half of this was surfaced in some

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Speaker 2: you know, Columbia student group chat.

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Speaker 4: Like one of those in prison one at.

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Speaker 2: Jade Vance would be the one leading the challenge to

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Speaker 2: put you there chat like we're five minutes ago where

673
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Speaker 2: he's saying, hey, if you expressed the wrong sentiment about

674
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk, you should be fired. And now so let

675
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Speaker 2: all these kids, you know, they don't know what they're doing, like,

676
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: give them some grace. Yeah, sure, they said I love

677
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: Hitler and they're talking about gas chambers, but like who

678
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Speaker 2: among us?

679
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: Who among us can judge?

680
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So, and you know, the ADL put out some incredibly weak,

682
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Speaker 2: you know, lame message.

683
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Speaker 3: It's just so clear say something.

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Speaker 2: They did say something, Yeah I can, I can find it,

685
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: pull it up, but very you know, very very light

686
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 2: touched kid gloves sort of like when they finally felt

687
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: compelled to say something about Elon Musk. You know, it's

688
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: that sort of similar vibe, like they don't actually care

689
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 2: about anti summits they they care about opposition to Israel,

690
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: not like genuine flourishing anti Semitism, which again we only

691
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Speaker 2: have to look at the fact that Nick Fuentes is

692
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: maybe the most popular creator among young Republican men to

693
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Speaker 2: understand that this is a real phenomenon and not like

694
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Speaker 2: a one off and not just a joke.

695
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Speaker 5: The So interestingly, the ADL dropped its lobbying relationship with

696
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Speaker 5: Ballard yesterday, that is the Susie Wilds firm and the

697
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Speaker 5: Pambondi former firm, and so that was they terminated their

698
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Speaker 5: lat being a relationship that disclosure dropped. Political Influence had

699
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Speaker 5: a little story about that, which is kind of interesting

700
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Speaker 5: amidst all of this, I hadn't actually connected the fact

701
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Speaker 5: that it was happening in the middle of all of this,

702
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 5: you know, uproar, which they were definitely dealing with internally

703
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 5: at their office. And what Ben was talking about with

704
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 5: the Left is that he's saying it's not as mainstream,

705
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 5: it's not as mainstream, and that actually exposes a kind

706
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 5: of interesting blind spot for Vans and Walsh here, which

707
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 5: is they're upset about these universities that have like think

708
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 5: like segregated dorm rooms that is a thing that started

709
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Speaker 5: to come back in the twenty tens. It's like this

710
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Speaker 5: is this is an affinity dorm for only black UCLA

711
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Speaker 5: students or something like that. And then the insistence in

712
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Speaker 5: critical race theory classes that white people are necessarily racist

713
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 5: because white people all bring you know, inherent biases to

714
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Speaker 5: the table. And we don't have to get back into

715
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Speaker 5: the whole CRT stuff, but I'm just saying that's where

716
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 5: they're saying, Uh, there's this disconnect. But what's interesting about

717
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 5: that is to then turn a blind eye, this is

718
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Speaker 5: the argument Bend is making. To then turn a blind

719
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 5: eye to similar versions of that argument happening from identitarians

720
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Speaker 5: is not consistent. Identitarians on your own side is not

721
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Speaker 5: at all consistent, And it's not at all consistent with

722
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Speaker 5: like the documentary Am I Racist? That Walsh made and

723
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Speaker 5: I think he came on our show to talk about

724
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Speaker 5: at the time and have a little debate about Haiti

725
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Speaker 5: with Brian Crystals, Crystal's viral for Puerto Rico, Ryan's viral

726
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Speaker 5: for Haiti. We should really just be doing the show

727
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Speaker 5: from the Caribbean. It's the future. But that's that there

728
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Speaker 5: There is a real inconsistency there and what they just

729
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Speaker 5: don't I don't understand why why From Matt Walsh, he

730
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Speaker 5: sees like a fun tests as quote his side, like

731
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Speaker 5: that's what's interesting in and of itself, right, Like is

732
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Speaker 5: fun to do you really see yourself as like a

733
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Speaker 5: rather in arms with Nick Flent does?

734
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Speaker 9: Is he like? Right?

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Speaker 4: And if so, hmmm, And there's a real thing and

736
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Speaker 4: think about the self delusion at work here where he says, Okay,

737
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Speaker 4: this stuff is more mainstreamed on the Democratic side, but

738
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Speaker 4: not on the Republican side. The vice president of the

739
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Speaker 4: United States is defending these young Republicans. He's the like,

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Speaker 4: stop thinking of yourselves as like marginal figures. He's the

741
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Speaker 4: vice president of the United States.

742
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Speaker 5: That's true.

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Speaker 4: There is no world in which something like this comes

744
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Speaker 4: out on the Democratic side and a hypothetical vice president

745
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Speaker 4: in a democratic administration defends it. They throw those young

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Speaker 4: people absolutely right under the bus and back over it.

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Speaker 2: We just we just watched Zoron condemning Hassanier, you know,

748
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Speaker 2: saying like, I don't know whatever he's out about nine

749
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Speaker 2: to eleven. I mean he condemned the comments, not specifically

750
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Speaker 2: Hassan but yeah, I mean, it just showed does show

751
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Speaker 2: you the disparity. And then I look even or beyond

752
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Speaker 2: j d Vance and think about Steven Miller, who apparently

753
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Speaker 2: internally in the White House they call the Prime Minister,

754
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Speaker 2: and who is running not only the you know, the

755
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Speaker 2: National Guard mobilization and the Operation Midway or whatever the

756
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Speaker 2: hell that's called, the you know, Midway terror attacks, Midway

757
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Speaker 2: like terror mass terror attacks that are happening in Chicago,

758
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Speaker 2: led by the federal government. But he's also leading the

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Speaker 2: you mentioned the Caribbean. I don't think I want to

760
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Speaker 2: be in the Caribbean right now. He's leading that effort

761
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Speaker 2: in terms of he and Mark Arrubio regime change in Venezuela.

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Speaker 2: We just found out that the latest fishing boat that

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Speaker 2: they blew up was a couple of fishers, fishermen from

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Speaker 2: Trinidad into Trinidad and Tobago.

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Speaker 3: So in this guy, Okay, he's Jewish, so he has

766
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Speaker 3: a different.

767
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Speaker 2: View on the Jews, but otherwise his ideology is pure

768
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Speaker 2: white nationalists. I mean, it's just no denying it, like

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Speaker 2: that is his goal. He wants there to be a

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Speaker 2: white ethno state. He thinks the only people that really

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Speaker 2: count as true Americans are people that are not only white,

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Speaker 2: but happen to a agree with him and agree with Trump,

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Speaker 2: and he is going about, you know, effectuating a plan

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Speaker 2: to try to consolidate effectively one party control. Now will

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Speaker 2: they be able to succeed at that? I think it's

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Speaker 2: a tall order. I don't know if they have the

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Speaker 2: capability and the competency, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: But there's no doubt that's the goal.

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Speaker 2: So what is reflected in these chats, it's almost quaint.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we see it.

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Speaker 2: I just went and looked at the replies from this

782
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Speaker 2: America First account to they shared the Ben Shapiro clip

783
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Speaker 2: we just showed. I mean, everyone is like, yeah, you know,

784
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Speaker 2: jew that owns you is like pulling your strings. It's

785
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 2: overt it's out there all the time, and it goes

786
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Speaker 2: all the way up to the top of this administration.

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Speaker 2: I think, in a sense, I think we should be

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Speaker 2: relieved that JD. Vance felt the need to like sort

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Speaker 2: of infantilize them and not just outwardly embrace what they're

790
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Speaker 2: saying here, because I think we're probably like two years

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Speaker 2: away from the line from the White House just being like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're right. I agree.

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Speaker 2: Hitler was great because I see that, see that as

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Speaker 2: being the direction that the party is going in more

795
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Speaker 2: and more and more every day.

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Speaker 7: So it isn't for him to say, isn't Vance always

797
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 7: crying about like uh ah, they're attacking Ice, they're calling

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Speaker 7: us Nazis and then you go to their group.

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Speaker 6: Checks and they're like, we are Nazis. So it's it's

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Speaker 6: it's it's tough to navigate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, it's just navigating. That's very diplomatically,

802
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Speaker 3: but yeah, it's.

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Speaker 5: Just I mean, but to Griffin's point, this is actually interesting,

804
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Speaker 5: Like to his point, if you have an opportunity here

805
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Speaker 5: to say this is what is not accepted, this is

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Speaker 5: why all of these claims are spurious and people are

807
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 5: wasting breath, and then you're like, well, you know, it's

808
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Speaker 5: a silly media distraction, you know, not not worth punching

809
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Speaker 5: right at these kids. Then you're missing an opportunity to

810
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Speaker 5: make your own point.

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Speaker 9: And so.

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Speaker 5: The kids who find themselves like working in politics tend

813
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Speaker 5: to be the most online, and they tend to be

814
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Speaker 5: which is from this perspective, not a great thing. They

815
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Speaker 5: tend to be the ones that are buried in these

816
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Speaker 5: layers of irony. They got online during COVID, and I

817
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 5: know these kids aren't kids but twenties and thirties, so

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Speaker 5: they are like way too online and probably different than

819
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Speaker 5: your average like young Republican voter, not like young Republican member.

820
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Speaker 5: But one of the things that like going back to

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Speaker 5: my first job out of college was at a conservative

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Speaker 5: youth group and we were putting together a lot of

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Speaker 5: these lectures. A bunch of them were with Ben at

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Speaker 5: the time, and then there was this debate the college

825
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 5: Republicans were wondering about like hosting Mileyanopolis, Who's saying all

826
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Speaker 5: kinds of crazy shit at the time, and they were

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Speaker 5: bringing Mile to campuses, and I remember always being on

828
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Speaker 5: the side of having these conversations and saying, listen, you

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Speaker 5: were dealing with people in their teenage years and their twenties.

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Speaker 5: It is not the same as dealing with your average

831
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Speaker 5: person in their forties and fifties. Their brains are still developing.

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Speaker 5: And when young people's I'm not talking about when these

833
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Speaker 5: people are twenty eight, I'm talking about in twenty twenty,

834
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Speaker 5: when they were seventeen or whatever, nineteen or whatever. Whatever.

835
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Speaker 5: This irony you think is funny and amusing and whatever

836
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Speaker 5: these outrageous statements you find to be like polemical or provocative.

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Speaker 5: It's hitting differently with sixteen to twenty three year olds.

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Speaker 5: It's not the same thing at all. They're not picking

839
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Speaker 5: up on all of the irony. They're not picking up

840
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Speaker 5: on you saying like ha wink wink, non nod. This

841
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 5: is funny because I've been called, you know, nazi for

842
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 5: ten years. They don't see that the same way. They

843
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 5: don't have the background. They're coming into their political consciousness

844
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Speaker 5: right now, and again their brains are still developing. So

845
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Speaker 5: what people find to be jokes and irony, I just

846
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Speaker 5: think they're playing with fire, particularly with young people, with

847
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 5: whom it doesn't And that's not like that's just real.

848
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 5: I've seen it happen. They're playing with fire. It just

849
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 5: doesn't land the same way with people in that demographics.

850
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Speaker 5: Like when you're working specifically with young people. My argument

851
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 5: is always been you have to be like extra extra careful.

852
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 5: You don't have to be an outrageous gatekeeper. William F.

853
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 5: Buckley tossing out the Birchers performatively, that's the big debate

854
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 5: in conservative circles right now. But when you're working with students,

855
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 5: it actually is really different. You have to actually be

856
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Speaker 5: careful with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, to be fair, the White House did condemn

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Speaker 2: one member of this group chat, and that would be

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Speaker 2: the guy who leaked it to the Politico. That was

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Speaker 2: the thing that they found condemnation worthy is that any

861
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: of this was surfaced, not anything that was said in

862
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Speaker 2: the chats, but the fact, you know that someone like

863
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Speaker 2: blew the whistle on them and exposed them to the public.

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Speaker 2: That was the part that they were upset about. And

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Speaker 2: to Griffin's point, like jd. Vance is insanely online, like

866
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Speaker 2: he is, he is a creature of this you know,

867
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Speaker 2: of this edge lord, of these edge lord spaces, and

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Speaker 2: even like with the twenty thirty year olds whatever, like

869
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Speaker 2: you meme it enough times, you meme yourself into these

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Speaker 2: positions and they stop being a joke and they start

871
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Speaker 2: just being like, you know, I'm you know, now I'm

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Speaker 2: a gripper, and now I believe that we should have

873
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Speaker 2: segregation again, and now I believe the Jews control everything,

874
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 2: and like this is actually my worldview and there's a

875
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: lot going on here with this. I mean, if I'm

876
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: to put my sociological like step back from the my

877
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: just disgusted at seeing this, these like losers embracing Hitler.

878
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: You know, we we do have our society is in crisis, right,

879
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: we are in crisis. We have a sense that the

880
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: whole and I think of reality, that the whole thing

881
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: is crumbling and falling apart. We have life expectancies which

882
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: are falling off a cliff, which is kind of the

883
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 2: most basic level of how is a nation doing? That

884
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: You could possibly look at in certain areas of the

885
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: country worse than others. So in the South, where Republicans

886
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: are disproportionally you know a cute is the word, where

887
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: they disproportionately live, you have twenty year lower life expectancy

888
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: than like in the Northeast. And you you know, meanwhile,

889
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: you have all these existential threats. You have this sense

890
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: like what is going to happen with AI? And I

891
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: can't afford a college degree, and I can't affordford a

892
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 2: healthcare and I can't afford a house. And what am

893
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: I as a man if I can't do these basic things?

894
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 2: Like You've got a lot of people who feel like losers,

895
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: who feel like their life is headed in no kind

896
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: of direction, who want desperately for some sort of like meaning,

897
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: and they're increasingly finding it in like being a Nazi

898
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 2: grouper and getting told by their friends, by their also

899
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: fat loser friends that that's quote unquote based. That's you know,

900
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: that's a big part of the dynamic that's that's going

901
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: on here that we have to grapple with.

902
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 5: I think identitarian politics are really dangerous in times when

903
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 5: economic when there's economic misery. Yeah, that's absolutely true.

904
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it.

905
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 2: There's no And that's the sort of thing that actually

906
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: can lead you to like a civil war, you know,

907
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: when you have that sort of identitarian ethnic strife. Those

908
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 2: are some of the warning signs of you know, total

909
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: societal collapse in a way that is like you know,

910
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: hot and involves guns.

911
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 9: M Yeah. Yeah.

912
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 5: It's just like when you've got a bunch of young

913
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 5: men who are I mean, we don't have to broach

914
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 5: the entire debate about young men now, but like when

915
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 5: you you do genuinely have a lot of young men

916
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 5: who are underemployed or miserable in different ways, can't afford houses,

917
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 5: have lots of student loan debt. It's it's fertile ground.

918
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 5: Fertile ground for unfortunate ideologies to blossom.

919
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: I would say so, well, on our guest has joined.

920
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 7: Us, Yes, our guest has joined us. Do we want

921
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 7: to do this on the in the public half or

922
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 7: we want to go over to the public Yeah, all right, Ryan,

923
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 7: who's our guest today?

924
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 4: State Representative Medina and Tom Wilson. I don't know if

925
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 4: she can hear us yet. People may remember from about

926
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 4: what two or three months ago we had uh state

927
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: representative on to discuss her effort to stop the Zuckerberg

928
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 4: Musk attempt to rewrite Delaware corporate laws to advantage themselves substantially.

929
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 4: That effort failed. Sort of right, You can actually update

930
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 4: us on that if you want. But people might remember

931
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 4: her from if they're if they're following us on Twitter,

932
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 4: from something quite different. Shed She went to Texas, took

933
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 4: the greyhound to what I've since learned is called the Mothership.

934
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 4: This is Joe Rogan's comedy A Little Club. I learned

935
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 4: that because I told people I was going to the

936
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 4: mother Ship this couple weeks ago, which is in fish Laura.

937
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 4: That's the Hampton Coliseum down down there where Crystal lives.

938
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 4: And people were like, oh, you're going to go to

939
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 4: Rogan's Club, Like, what the efforts club?

940
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 3: Obviously I'm talking about a fish concert.

941
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 5: What are you talking about?

942
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 4: Medina was at the actual Mothership and they do a

943
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 4: thing at the kill Tony show where they have a

944
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 4: bucket pull where you put your name. You can tell

945
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 4: usport about it, but you put your name in a bucket,

946
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 4: and then.

947
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 5: The breaking points where Ryan explains kill Tony.

948
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 4: May or may not get picked. And you had told

949
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 4: me that this was not the first time that you

950
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 4: had been there, so you made this entire trek just

951
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 4: for the joy of a kill Tony show, which I'm

952
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 4: sure was life changing in its own right. But the

953
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: second time it actually came through, Griffin, should we play

954
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 4: a little bit first, or.

955
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 9: Hi, guys, what's up?

956
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 6: Adina? Welcome back.

957
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 9: Always it's always endearing when the host is like, let

958
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 9: me tell you all about this person before you get

959
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 9: to get to like talk to them, because they're really excited.

960
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 9: So I'm like, I love that. Yeah, thanks for having

961
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 9: me back. On a lighter note than last time. Last

962
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 9: time was a bit depressing, and Ryan mentioned, h yeah,

963
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 9: it was a failure, like most legislative efforts that I have,

964
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 9: it seems, but last two weeks ago now in Austin, Texas.

965
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 9: Was not a failure of a lot of fun.

966
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 4: But did we lose your camera?

967
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 7: No, we got I lost it, Ryan, Ryan ran, I

968
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 7: got this, Madina. What was the what was the experience? Like,

969
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 7: did you have a fun time? Because you know, I'm

970
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 7: I'm recording right now from Los Angeles and some some

971
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 7: liberal comedians of Los Angeles their nails will curl when

972
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 7: they hear kill Tony.

973
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 6: So what was your experience going in there?

974
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 9: It was great. I had a good experience. I was

975
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 9: nervous going in. I'm a black Muslim woman with vittel igo,

976
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 9: I'm a democratic socialist. Yeah, there's a lot of things

977
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 9: that they could they could roast me on. And I

978
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 9: also was just nervous that I was going to mess

979
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 9: up my minute of comedy. Right. So, like Ryan said,

980
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 9: was my second time going down there. And as a comedian,

981
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 9: any comedians that are listening, or even folks that are

982
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 9: just in the arts, they know, like, you gotta put

983
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 9: the time in, you gotta do a lot of reps,

984
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 9: a lot of times, you bomb a lot of times.

985
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 9: You know, you put your name in the bucket. You

986
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 9: don't get pulled I took the Greyhound bus for a

987
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 9: friends in Fort Worth to Austin, so I'm like trekking

988
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 9: on the bus and last time, I think I got

989
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 9: home at like four am or something. I would not

990
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 9: recommend taking the Greyhound in the middle of the night.

991
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 9: It's much nicer during the day, but that's a bar.

992
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 9: It was a good experience and I didn't mess up

993
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 9: my minute. I was a little bit fast. I could

994
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 9: have slowed down a little bit, but I didn't want

995
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 9: to go overtime and then get roasted for for going

996
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 9: over time.

997
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 5: So overall, well, we did a nice day intro, but

998
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 5: we yeah, we didn't. We didn't get to your pronoun

999
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 5: so we should watch the uh and then all of

1000
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 5: this we were rude. We didn't ask, so let's forgot.

1001
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 6: Let's roll it.

1002
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 4: And it makes the noise for Medina.

1003
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: Everybody, we're gonna meet Medina all together.

1004
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 9: And hey, guys, so you can probably tell by looking

1005
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 9: at me my pronouns are USA.

1006
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 5: Let's go so good.

1007
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 9: I usually walk out to Bruce Springsteen born in the USA,

1008
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 9: just in case they had my passport back there. I

1009
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 9: identify as biracial because my dad is black and my

1010
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 9: mom is African American. But my body, my body is

1011
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 9: gentrifying itself. Yeah, you know you have vitigo because it

1012
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 9: starts with a couple spots and then pretty soon you

1013
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 9: don't recognize the neighborhood anymore.

1014
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 6: It's just not what it used to be.

1015
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 9: The best part about having vidlago, though, is kids always

1016
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 9: come up to me and ask me what happened to

1017
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 9: your hand, and I get to tell them, Well, when

1018
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 9: I was your age, my mom told me to do

1019
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 9: something and I didn't listen and she smacked the black

1020
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 9: off me. Do your parents.

1021
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 5: I'll leave it there. Thanks g nice, so good.

1022
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't think you rushed it. I thought that

1023
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 3: you're talking was great.

1024
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 9: Oh, thank you.

1025
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 6: It feels different when you're up there.

1026
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1027
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, so when you're nervous all though, if you if

1028
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 3: you're nervous, you hide it.

1029
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 9: Well yeah, I mean I was nervous, and then it

1030
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 9: was like, right before I went on stage, I was like,

1031
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 9: you can't be nervous, right like, you you're nervous, You're

1032
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 9: gonna mess up. So I was. I was mostly thinking

1033
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 9: about what the producer just told me, which was when

1034
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 9: you get on stage, moved the mic to the right,

1035
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 9: the camera whatever, whatever. Don't talk while they talk because

1036
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 9: your mic won't get So I was like, all right,

1037
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 9: show notes, like keep that in mind, and uh yeah,

1038
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 9: it went went about as good as I could have hoped.

1039
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 9: I had made one joke I think during the interview

1040
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 9: that didn't land but could have been worse.

1041
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 4: Which which was that one?

1042
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 9: Uh, the Stevie Wonder joke.

1043
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 4: Oh well, cause I think they can get it.

1044
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 9: They're just too white.

1045
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1046
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 9: As they were talking, I.

1047
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 5: Was like the rest of us here, Yeah, yeah, I

1048
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 5: wish I got.

1049
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 9: The album in reach. But there's this there's a great

1050
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 9: SEEDYE Wonder album Hotter than July, and he's got the

1051
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 9: braids and the beads, and it's just like, yeah, now,

1052
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 9: black people laugh about because they're like, are you saying

1053
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 9: you have a receding Caroline.

1054
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 5: So this clip went super viral, and especially people on

1055
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 5: the left who are just dying to have some connection

1056
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 5: with the like Joe Rogan world that used to be

1057
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 5: pretty left. I think people were just like, hey, it

1058
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 5: was like a shot in the arm, like hey, we

1059
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 5: can do this on the left. We can like be

1060
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 5: funny and politically incorrect and survive and not have our

1061
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 5: you know, progressive bona fides question. In fact, we can

1062
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 5: communicate like relatively dem socialist messages in some of these spaces.

1063
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 5: So tell us a little bit about what it's been

1064
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 5: like since going viral, since you know, being at the

1065
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 5: comedy Mothership. What response have you gotten.

1066
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 9: About what you probably could expect, right, Like progressive folks,

1067
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 9: it's been really excited about it. Some of the some

1068
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 9: of the like kill Tony Bass was like she's not funny,

1069
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 9: and it's like all right, Like I know it was

1070
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 9: going a little fast, but this was a funny minute.

1071
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 9: Like you're just racist, you just hate like but I'm

1072
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 9: kind of used to that too. Like as a female comic,

1073
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 9: I've had multiple people come up to me after shows

1074
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 9: and be like this is gonna sound crazy, but like

1075
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 9: you're the first funny woman I've ever seen, and I'm like,

1076
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 9: you're just a misogynist dude. Like, so it's overall, I

1077
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 9: would say it's been a really good experience. I've gotten

1078
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 9: a lot of folks coming to my social media pages

1079
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 9: saying like I didn't know democrats could be funny, thank you,

1080
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 9: or like folks that are like more independent that are

1081
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 9: just fed up with both parties as I am as

1082
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 9: well right as a member of the Democratic Party, I'm

1083
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 9: pretty frustrated with the direction at the party, at the

1084
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 9: national level and at the state level that has been

1085
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 9: going in in the past few years. So it's been

1086
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 9: it's been nice to kind of find my people online.

1087
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 9: It has not been as nice to have my d

1088
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Speaker 9: ms get totally wrecked by like the freakiest of freaks

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Speaker 9: on the internet. But you know that'll die down eventually.

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Speaker 5: Griffin, Griffin, please stop dming her.

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Speaker 4: What about your colleagues for you?

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Speaker 6: Did you got a question?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? And I'm just curious for your like a while

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Speaker 4: making colleagues have said so far.

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Speaker 9: It's been crickets, which means that they're they're chatting in

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Speaker 9: the group.

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Speaker 6: Which means it was a good set.

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Speaker 7: Madina, My question for you is, you know, there's a

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Speaker 7: little lot of conversations post Trump presidency about the comedy

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Speaker 7: podcasters like going right wing or what have you like,

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Speaker 7: what do you make of the current comedy in environment

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Speaker 7: and I guess second part of the question is do

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Speaker 7: you think that you I would consider you more a

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Speaker 7: leftist than a liberal?

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Speaker 6: Is that fair to say?

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Speaker 7: Do you think that a liberal would have a harder

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Speaker 7: time on kill Tony than a leftist.

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Speaker 9: I think liberals have a harder time anywhere because they're boring. Sorry,

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Speaker 9: no offense have liberals, but.

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Speaker 5: Like, how dare you Amy Schumer is voting for Antre Cuomo.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if you saw this, but like, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 9: that's boring. Nobody's interested in that. Like two thousand called

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Speaker 9: and you know they're waiting. So yeah. I think if

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Speaker 9: you are able to communicate your values, if you actually

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Speaker 9: have values, that or something other than just like I

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Speaker 9: don't know, you know, love is love or something like, like,

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Speaker 9: it's got to go deeper than that, Like we got

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Speaker 9: to talk about like economic issues people are dealing with,

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Speaker 9: which is part of the reason why I love taking

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Speaker 9: the bus, right, Like I can't afford to like run

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Speaker 9: a car all over Texas and fly around, so I

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Speaker 9: take the bus and then I get to hang out

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Speaker 9: with people that take the bus. And I think that's

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Speaker 9: something that the Democratic Party leadership is sorely lacking, is

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Speaker 9: actually understanding what it's like to Like the other day,

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Speaker 9: I was like in the bank opening an account for

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Speaker 9: my business, and I'm like, give me a second, I

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Speaker 9: gotta move money from here to there because like I

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Speaker 9: only have so much money. That's what the average American

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Speaker 9: is dealing with right now. So I think if you

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Speaker 9: are a leftist and you have any type of personality,

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Speaker 9: you'll do well in places like this. Unfortunately, Democratic party

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00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 9: leadership tends to push the most boring milk toast.

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Speaker 5: Like.

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Speaker 9: That's not gonna do well. Like I'll talking to a

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Speaker 9: party friend of mine who was like, yeah, like Kamala

1137
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Speaker 9: should have gone on Rogan, and I'm like, no, she

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Speaker 9: shouldn't have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you mean, Like you cannot.

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Speaker 9: Survive more than an hour long interview if you're trying

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00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 9: to do a script, like you have to just be yourself.

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Speaker 9: And if that's not who's running, it's not going to

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Speaker 9: work on Rogan.

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Speaker 2: That's what I always said to this whole, like, oh,

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00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 2: she should have gone over It's like a different candidate

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Speaker 2: who could handle that. Sure, we're talking about this candidate, like.

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Speaker 9: We should have run a candidate who can go on Rogate,

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Speaker 9: who could there?

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Speaker 2: Yes, and how long you been doing someone like Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden exactly, Yeah, I mean that would have it would

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Speaker 2: have been That's true.

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Speaker 9: We did. We beat Medicaid, Okay, Like I shouldn't tell

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Speaker 9: the story. But one of my tell stories I shouldn't

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Speaker 9: is when they do well. So, uh, I went to

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Speaker 9: the Memorial Day service here at the Veteran Cemetery and

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Speaker 9: I got like stuck in a little you know, when

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Speaker 9: like older people start talking to you, sometimes you get

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Speaker 9: stuck and you're like trying to leave him like that.

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Speaker 9: So I got stuck talking to Biden and and in

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Speaker 9: there and he starts telling the story about how like

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Speaker 9: I kind of was in and out of paying attention,

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Speaker 9: like in an out of consciousness. But he's telling the

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Speaker 9: story and he's like, yeah and putin he was. He

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Speaker 9: was mad at me because I shut down the U

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Speaker 9: S s R. And I was like what, Like I

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Speaker 9: came back to the conversation and everybody, Yeah, He's like

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Speaker 9: I put it, And I was like, you put it

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Speaker 9: like I was young then, but like I don't think

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Speaker 9: that's what happened, dude, Like I'm pretty sure that was

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Speaker 9: the you. I don't think you're that guy.

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Speaker 5: But was that this may yes.

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Speaker 4: Good sign of life from buying.

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Speaker 5: At least we have sending medicaid and the U S

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Speaker 5: s R and the.

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Speaker 2: U S s R about corn pop. Did you about

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Speaker 2: corn pop corn pop involved in ending the U.

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Speaker 9: S s R.

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Speaker 5: Also, that was the one man show man show that story.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure I'll hear about it.

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Speaker 2: Prime by Man's Prime was very talented, you know. I

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Speaker 2: mean I saw him both on the stump. You know,

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Speaker 2: we all saw him wipe the floor with Paul Ryan

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Speaker 2: in that debate. Like he did have that thing when

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Speaker 2: he was young, even with all the like you know,

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Speaker 2: the verbal gaffs and whatever like that was part of

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Speaker 2: actually what made him interesting to watch. But yeah, at

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Speaker 2: this stage, I got stuck. It'd be interesting for another reason.

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Speaker 4: I guess I got stuck with him a few times

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Speaker 4: when he was a senator and we'd be in the

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Speaker 4: hallway and like the other report, there'd be no other

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Speaker 4: reporters there, and he's still talking. I have no questions left,

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Speaker 4: and so like remember one time statement, I remember a

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Speaker 4: state of the Union. It's just me and him, and

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01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 4: like he's still talking. He's still talking. So I like

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Speaker 4: I take my recorder away to like try to signal,

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Speaker 4: look like I'm not recording anything anymore. Like this is over.

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Speaker 4: He keeps going. I like put my notebook like in

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Speaker 4: my pocket, put my hands in my pockets.

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Speaker 9: Get the book, put something in a book. That's what

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Speaker 9: I know as a politician, Like oh, all right, okay, guys,

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Speaker 9: I'll let you go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a I guess I have a thing

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Speaker 4: I have to file, like, I've got stuff I have

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Speaker 4: to do. I'm like, don't don't you yeah, don't you you?

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Speaker 4: Oh goodness, Sorry, he was top you know, he's top

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Speaker 4: Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee, so he must mean

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Speaker 4: he helped funnel so much money, right right.

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Speaker 9: I got to tell you I did not ask for

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Speaker 9: a followup question.

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Speaker 4: When did he become chair? You know, let's uh, let's

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Speaker 4: fact check his claim down the USSR.

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Speaker 3: Is that around that time, wasn't he judiciary?

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Speaker 4: He was? He was chaired by like what ninety ninety one? Yeah,

1214
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Speaker 4: because he's taking you know, he's ushering Clarence Thomas through.

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Speaker 9: The scene ninety three said on the scene, looking real mean, I've.

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Speaker 6: Been putting on a history of wormhole Medina.

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Speaker 7: My final question for you is do you feel I

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01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 7: don't know, sometimes I think that their comedians are scared

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Speaker 7: of posting clips, especially if they have like a normal job,

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Speaker 7: like like like you perhaps are are we in like

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Speaker 7: a new era where you can do a stand up

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Speaker 7: set with some jokes that push into areas that normally

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Speaker 7: you wouldn't be able to talk about in a workplace.

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Speaker 7: Post that and then go back to work, like what's

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Speaker 7: our what's your sense or your temperature?

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Speaker 6: Chest on the broad unbroad term of cancel culture right now?

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Speaker 9: Oh, that's an interesting question. I mean when I first started,

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Speaker 9: so I've been doing comedy a little over three years.

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Speaker 9: And when I first started, I was just using my

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Speaker 9: first name, thinking that that somehow people wouldn't find out

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Speaker 9: because you know, I don't have a unique look or anything.

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Speaker 9: And so I remember I was at an open mic

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Speaker 9: maybe a couple months in, and somebody afterwards came up

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Speaker 9: to me and she was like, aren't you stay rap?

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Speaker 9: And I was like found me and but like, honestly,

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01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 9: like my material that I do, it's almost it's almost

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01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 9: a political Like I did some political jokes when I

1238
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 9: was on the show because that's what I've been doing lately,

1239
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 9: because it's it's top of mind for me as a

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Speaker 9: Muslim woman. Right Like in Texas, I literally did have

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01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 9: my passport on me just to prove that I'm an

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Speaker 9: American citizen because there are people who look at me

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Speaker 9: and think I'm not right. So I've started doing more

1244
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 9: jokes like that, But I also talk about that at

1245
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Speaker 9: my job. I'm in a privileged position in that I'm

1246
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 9: a Democrat for my job, right, so I don't have

1247
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,439
Speaker 9: to worry so much about HRC getting involved. I don't

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01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 9: do jokes where I punched down or you know, go

1249
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 9: after vulnerable groups where I would then get in trouble

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Speaker 9: or something.

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Speaker 6: So that makes it not to cut you off.

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Speaker 7: But I feel like specific to kill Tony was someone

1253
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 7: that was like right under the gun during the election,

1254
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Speaker 7: Like he did those jokes during the Madison Square rally

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Speaker 7: and Democrats really tried to tried to cancel them for that,

1256
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 7: so it almost like guilt by association, like oh, she

1257
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 7: went on stage with Tony, Like how dare she?

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Speaker 6: Like is there any danger of that? Or like, I

1259
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 6: mean seemed like he didn't care.

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Speaker 9: I don't honestly, because I think it's important for Democrats

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01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 9: to go on any platform that will allow them on

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01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 9: to share that we're not a bunch of weirdo freaks,

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Speaker 9: that we have like values that we share with most Americans,

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01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 9: that we have a shared lived experience and we want

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Speaker 9: to actually progress the country. I think we have to

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Speaker 9: just get over that. Like if we're going to cancel

1267
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 9: every platform that helped get Trump elected, I guess we're

1268
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 9: not going on SNL, Like is that what we're doing.

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01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 9: We're not gonna write like we're not going to go

1270
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Speaker 9: on I don't know, NBC Nightly like come on, Like

1271
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Speaker 9: it's just silly. So I was really, I think blessed

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Speaker 9: to get pulled out of that bucket so that I

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01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 9: could show so the Rogan you know world, that there

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01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 9: are still Democrats that are funny. We don't all just

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01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 9: like joke about whatever, you know, stereotypes they have about

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01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 9: left leaning comedians. Like most of my material is about

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Speaker 9: it's self deprecation. It's growing up, you know, in a

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Speaker 9: big household. It's the struggles of marriage and relationships, you know,

1279
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 9: having to drive on a road with people that have

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Speaker 9: that novice driver magnet on the back of the car, right,

1281
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 9: and I'm like, you're novice, let me teach you a lesson.

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01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 9: I'm cutting you off right, Like that's something that we

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01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 9: all can you know, relate to in a way. So

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Speaker 9: I thought it was great And last year, just about

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Speaker 9: a year ago, I was talking to some political mentors

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Speaker 9: of mine, and I was telling them, I'm kind of

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Speaker 9: like I felt at the time like I needed to

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01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 9: pick my political career or my comedy career, and I

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01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 9: wanted to pick comedy. I love comedy. And they were like,

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Speaker 9: Trump just got reelected. What are you talking about? Do both?

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Speaker 8: Right?

1292
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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 9: Do both? That's what people want. And one of them

1294
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Speaker 9: actually said, if Dave Chappelle announced right now that he

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01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 9: was running for president, do you think people would sad

1296
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 9: and I or would they be like, oh snap, like

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Speaker 9: I would vote for Dave right, And that kind of

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01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 9: flipped the switch for me where I'm like, you know what,

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Speaker 9: I'm just gonna stick to being myself, right, like when

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Speaker 9: I talk about the Elon Musbill, super serious, did my research,

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Speaker 9: and when I'm doing my comedy also like, you know,

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Speaker 9: hard working, put the time in, took the bus, did

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Speaker 9: the open mics, bombed, bombed, bombed until I got some

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Speaker 9: material that worked, right. So that's my plan. I think

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Speaker 9: the Democratic Party needs to get serious about being normal.

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Speaker 9: And I just want to shout out. Somebody messaged me

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Speaker 9: on Twitter a couple of days ago after this clip

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Speaker 9: went viral and said, thank you please continue to be normal,

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Speaker 9: and that's the biggest comp one I think I've ever gotten, Like,

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Speaker 9: I'm just going to try to continue to be a

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Speaker 9: normal person, and I think that the party needs or that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, self deprecation is very disarming too, you know, and

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Speaker 2: sends a message to you, like, and we're not so

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Speaker 2: self serious that you can't like poke funding yourself, you know.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely right.

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Speaker 6: Well that's all.

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Speaker 7: That was awesome. We love the set. We're excited for

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Speaker 7: your future Rogan episode. Any last questions before we let

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Speaker 7: Medina go?

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Speaker 4: All right, I mean, do you do you like do

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Speaker 4: you do stuff in Philadelphia or DC? Like work? Where

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Speaker 4: can people find you?

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Speaker 9: Yes? Yeah, so I can share my link with you guys.

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Speaker 9: But I will be all over over the next month.

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Speaker 9: I'm in northern Delaware, so I do shows in Philly

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Speaker 9: all the time. I'll be in Philly the next couple

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Speaker 9: of weeks. I'll be in Frederick, Maryland. From other spots

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Speaker 9: in Maryland, New York. On the twenty eighth of October,

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Speaker 9: so I'm in the I'm in the tri state New

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Speaker 9: York metro Northeast area, and then I'll be in Florida

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Speaker 9: early November, so come see me.

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Speaker 4: Come high, ye say to the link.

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Speaker 7: We'll put it in the Yeah, we'll put it in

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Speaker 7: the email. Yeah, we'll put it in the link to

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Speaker 7: the description in this video below. Thank you, Medina and folks.

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Speaker 6: We're going to stop here with this half of the show.

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Speaker 7: If you want to see the second half of the show,

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Speaker 7: go to Breakingpoints dot com to sign up, get access

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Speaker 7: to that, get access to our ama to ask us questions,

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Speaker 7: and we'll see all you premium users on the other side.

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Speaker 6: Bye bye,