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Speaker 1: Welcome into real America's voice news. This is Sunday, the

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Speaker 1: Road Forward, word of hope and encouragement for you and

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Speaker 1: those you love, especially these challenging times. I'm doctor Tim Clinton.

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Speaker 1: I'll be your host, our special guest joining us this week.

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Speaker 1: He's pastor in New York Times, bestselling author and senior

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Speaker 1: director of TP Turning Point USA. Faith Lucas Miles is

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Speaker 1: with us. He's evangelist, a Marine Corps Vietnam veteran, Tim

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Speaker 1: Lee is with us. Leading Christian psychiatrist addictions expert medical

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Speaker 1: director for the American Association of Christian Counselors, Doctor Carl

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Speaker 1: of the National Center for Healthy Veterans. Major General retired

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Speaker 1: Bob Dees is with us. Thanks for joining us, Sworthy,

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Speaker 1: What a wild week in America. Election week, pretty shocking

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Speaker 1: Jersey and New York City as new mayor Soren ma'm donnie.

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Speaker 1: Many are describing me as a Marxist, socialist and communist.

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Speaker 1: Ma'm donnie is and his acceptance speech challenge President Trump

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Speaker 1: on deportations. He said, hear me President Trump when I

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Speaker 1: say this, to get any of us, you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to go through all of us. Pretty bold statement, right there.

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Speaker 1: May God guide us a hall. Hey, social media is

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Speaker 1: going wild on what's happening in Nigeria, which by the way,

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Speaker 1: goes beyond religious persecution. It's really like a full on

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Speaker 1: genocide of Christians. Thank God for Secretary Hegseth and President

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Speaker 1: Trump and their support of Nigerian Christians and how they're

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Speaker 1: rightly using I think American power to defend the entrants

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Speaker 1: and lives of Christians around the globe. And this week

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Speaker 1: we celebrate Veterans Day. The Bible says we're to give

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Speaker 1: honor to whom honor is due. In Veterans Day, we

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Speaker 1: do that. We honor those who have served or served

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Speaker 1: the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, and Coastguard. Veterans

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Speaker 1: Day originated as Armistice Day on November eleventh, nineteen nineteen.

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Speaker 1: That was the very first anniversary at the end of

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Speaker 1: World War One. Congress passed a resolution in nineteen twenty

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Speaker 1: national holiday beginning in nineteen thirty eight. Unlike Memorial Day,

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Speaker 1: Veterans Day pays tribute to all American veterans, living or dead,

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Speaker 1: but especially gives thanks to living veterans who have served

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Speaker 1: or served their country honorably during war or peace time. Hey,

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Speaker 1: in times like these, our hope, our strength comes from

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Speaker 1: the Lord. Here's a great verse to hold on too,

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Speaker 1: from the Bible. This week saw them thirty seven verses

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Speaker 1: twenty five through twenty seven. I've been young, now I'm old.

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Speaker 1: Yet I have not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his

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Speaker 1: seed begging for bread. God's merciful, and he lendeth, and

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Speaker 1: his seed is blessed. Depart from evil, Do good, and

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Speaker 1: dwell forever more. Hey, I'm going to pray and we're

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Speaker 1: going to get started. God be with us, guide our

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Speaker 1: time here. Thank you for the privilege of doing this,

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Speaker 1: Use it for your glory. I pray all that in

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Speaker 1: the strong name of Jesus. Amen.

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Speaker 2: Let's get started.

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Speaker 3: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 1: Joyce Now is Lucas Miles. He's a trusted voice in

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Speaker 1: the American Church on challenging topics in theology, politics, and culture.

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Speaker 1: He's a lead pastor of Influenced Church and Indiana, president

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Speaker 1: of the Influenced Network, and a senior director of TPUSA

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Speaker 1: Turning Point USA Faith. Lucas Welcome, thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Tim, good to see you and thanks.

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Speaker 1: For having me on Liders are Gonna Started. Congrats on

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Speaker 1: your new book, Soaring Up, the New York Times bestseller,

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Speaker 1: I mean amazing called Pagan Threat, Confronting America's Godless Uprising.

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Speaker 1: The forward by the way, by our buddy Charlie Kirk Lucas. Hey,

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Speaker 1: congrats on the book, I guess, and what a message

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Speaker 1: for such a time as this unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, I think that you know, we have underplayed the

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Speaker 4: influence of pagan ideology. And it's not just talking about

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Speaker 4: just a general godlessness. I think we're seeing this around

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Speaker 4: the nation. I think we saw this in the election yesterday,

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Speaker 4: you know, from New York City mayor. And we're seeing

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Speaker 4: this deception that is taking place for the American people.

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Speaker 4: This pagan threat is real. It's wokeism gone to seed

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Speaker 4: and it showed its true colors and they are in

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Speaker 4: honored have Charlie as having written that forward for Pagan Threat.

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Speaker 4: So it's been incredible season and just trying to really

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Speaker 1: Now, Charlie said, the spiritual battles coming to the West,

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Speaker 1: and the enemies are Wokeism, Marxism combining with Islamism to

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Speaker 1: You said, the election this week unbelievable. It's kind of shocking.

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Speaker 1: happening in American culture in New York City? I mean,

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Speaker 1: the big Apple. No real surprise to you, Lucas. What

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Speaker 1: in the world are we going to do? I mean,

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Speaker 1: by the way, do you think maybe shaking this all

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Speaker 1: bad it was unbelievable. People couldn't believe it and they

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Speaker 4: It's so it's so you know, devastating and disappointing to

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Speaker 4: see a city like New York that you know, experienced,

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Speaker 4: you know, in our lifetime, the attacks on September eleventh,

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Speaker 4: you know, elect somebody who is a radical socialist Islamis that,

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Speaker 4: is how far we have gone, how far we have

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Speaker 4: history repeats itself only when we forget it. And we've

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Speaker 4: seen the fruit of that right now. But look, I

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Speaker 4: pray that people wake up. There's a there's all sorts

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Speaker 4: of probably different strategies we need to be thinking of

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Speaker 4: right now. But you know, this is a this is

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Speaker 4: a major blow to liberty in this nation. And you know,

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Speaker 4: already to see his victory speech, you know, kind of

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is this is it just shows the

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Speaker 1: Go TPUSA and TPUSA Faith and then any that you lead.

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Speaker 1: Lucas exploding across the country. It's been amazing to see

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Speaker 1: what happened that and still happening on college campuses. The

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Speaker 1: I think he what a message. But Lucas, where's it going?

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Speaker 1: And what are you seeing a lot of people talking

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's absolutely real. The question is how well are

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Speaker 4: man can't generate revival. What happened after September tenth when

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Speaker 4: this thing, that something drawing me back to the Lord.

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Speaker 4: feel like I need to, you know, go down to

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Speaker 4: manufacture that. No amount of money can you know, can

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Speaker 4: people's hearts transfer warm like that. The question though, is

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Speaker 4: how do we steward this moving forward? You know, we

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Speaker 4: decide God's sparks revival. We decide I think in many

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Speaker 4: the opportunities that are being presented to us. And so

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Speaker 4: you know, we're trying to do that. We had about

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Speaker 4: four thousand churches before September tenth, we worked with at

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Speaker 4: tposa Faith. We're now at over eight thousand churches that

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Speaker 4: are part of this. We've literally doubled in size in

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Speaker 4: the last sixty days, which has been truly remarkable. It's

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Speaker 4: presented unique challenges certainly that we're navigating and being faithful

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Speaker 4: to our donor base has been incredible. We've had a

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Speaker 4: lot of people coming in for support, our staff or

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Speaker 4: you know, top notch and so we're just trying to

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Speaker 4: prepare pastors around the country to be able to receive

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Speaker 4: these people that are experiencing you know, transformative effects of

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Speaker 4: pastors can stand strong boldly, you know, to teach their

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Speaker 4: people how to think biblically, you know, in the in

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Speaker 4: the boardroom, in the bedroom, and at the ballot box.

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Speaker 4: I think if we can do those things, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: This nation, Lucas. The late James Dobson would often say,

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Speaker 1: the church needs to awaken and take her rightful place.

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Speaker 1: Until then, parachurch organizations have to step in standing the gap.

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Speaker 1: But the real power, the real hope, the strength is

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Speaker 1: in the Church of Jesus Christ. Go back to churches.

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people were screaming about the

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Speaker 1: deafening silence of the American pulpit, and people didn't want

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Speaker 1: to get into this conversation the progressive side of the church.

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Speaker 1: I think that's washed up. I think people are sick

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Speaker 1: for righteousness and culture. Right now, Lucas, what's going to

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Speaker 1: help that along? I mean, what are you doing to

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Speaker 1: lift that spirit? If you will?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk and

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Speaker 4: whether or not you're in a good church. You know,

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Speaker 4: in terms of how your church responded to that. If

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Speaker 4: is interested in speaking truth to culture. Right now in

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Speaker 4: the time that we're in and it's probably time to

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Speaker 4: find a new church. And so we have a resource

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Speaker 4: at tposa faith dot com where people can find churches

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Speaker 4: near them. We're actively adding more and more churches this.

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Speaker 4: All of our pastors have to opt into this, so

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Speaker 4: it's a little bit kind of slow to get everybody

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Speaker 4: We'll probably already have about five hundred churches listed on

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Speaker 4: that map and growing it'll it'll soon have thousands, and

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Speaker 4: so we want that to be a resource for people

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Speaker 4: there at tposa faith dot com. But I will say that,

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Speaker 4: you know, I think that where we go forward, and

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Speaker 4: this is one of the things I wrote about my

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Speaker 4: book Pagan Threat, is that you know, progressive Christianity that

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Speaker 4: why we're seeing, you know, Islamisists and Marxists start to

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Speaker 5: You, doctor Tam. It's always a joy and honor to

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Speaker 1: You know, as we get started, Tim, quite a week

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Speaker 1: I know you have a special place in your heart

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's a new day for our military after all

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Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, I believe our citizenship is in heaven. That's

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Speaker 5: of God. They go to heaven because they received Jesus

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Speaker 5: Christ John one twelve to as many as received him

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Speaker 5: to them, gave he the power to become the sons

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Speaker 5: of God. Listen to us right now, watching us right now.

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Speaker 5: They were simply repent of their sins. That means to

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Speaker 5: turn from their sin and turn to Jesus what he

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Speaker 5: did on that cross. It's all about the cross, the

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Speaker 5: blood that was shed, the death that was died. And

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Speaker 5: then it's all about an empty tomb, a risen savior.

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Speaker 5: And when you, by faith say yes to this gift

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Speaker 5: of salvation that God has provided, you become God's child forever.

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Speaker 5: And I trust that if they're someone, listen to me

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Speaker 5: right now, if you just simply prayer, A simple prayer

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Speaker 5: does have to be a long drawn out prayer. Just

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Speaker 5: say Lord, I'm a sinner. I've sinned that I know.

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Speaker 5: I'm a sinner. I don't deserve to go to heaven,

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Speaker 5: but today I want to be saved. Please forgive me

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Speaker 5: of my sin and make me your child. And when

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Speaker 5: you buy faith, ask Jesus to come into your life.

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Speaker 5: He saves you and you're his forever. I hope you'll

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Speaker 5: do that.

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Speaker 1: Today, Amen, And if you prayed that prayer, we believe

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Speaker 1: you now in the family of God. Tim Lee, retired military, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Marine Corps veteran. Hey, my good friend. Yeah, Hey, thank

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Speaker 1: you for your service and thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, God bless.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, Doctor Carl Benzio is with us.

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Speaker 3: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 3: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a

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Speaker 3: part of your life.

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Speaker 1: Joyaus Now is doctor Carl Benziel. He's a board certified

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Speaker 1: Christian psychiatrist, co founder of the Honeylake Clinic, and currently

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Speaker 1: serves as medical director of the American Association of Christian Councilers.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Carl, welcome back, Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 2: Hey, great Tim, great to be with you, and thanks

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Speaker 2: a lot, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what a wild week in America, Carl. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people are shocked. Can you believe what's happening? New

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Speaker 1: York City, New Jersey, Virginia, everything else?

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Speaker 5: Carl.

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Speaker 1: There's a quote you often give by Voltaire. It's quote

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Speaker 1: when people believe absurdities, they'll commit atrocities. Just some of

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Speaker 1: your reflections on where you think we're at in culture

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Speaker 1: and the hey, the human heart, it's it's it's unbelievable

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Speaker 1: how dark it can get.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know some of the things that we're seeing

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Speaker 2: that when I was a kid back in the sixties

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Speaker 2: and seventies, it wasn't even a possibility, whether physician assistant, suicide,

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Speaker 2: youth in Asia, abortion, gender confusion, mutilating healthy bodies because

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Speaker 2: somebody is a little bit confused about what gender they

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Speaker 2: were that God designed them as you know, these kind

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Speaker 2: of absurd beliefs, and we're just seeing atrocities being committed

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Speaker 2: in our community and in our society. This age of relatives, relativism,

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Speaker 2: or this postmodern post church mentality where everybody gets to

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Speaker 2: do what's right in their own eyes. I think this

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Speaker 2: is the chaos that we see. And there's one political

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Speaker 2: party that I think really caters to man's fleshly desire

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Speaker 2: to be their own king, right me, myself and I

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Speaker 2: the Holy Trinity, the Unholy Trinity. I want to be

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Speaker 2: my own God. I want to determine what's right for me.

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Speaker 2: I want to right my own instruction manual, all these

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Speaker 2: kind of ways of trying to exalt each person and

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Speaker 2: allow them to be God of their own system or

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Speaker 2: god of their own world, so they get to determine

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Speaker 2: what's right. And it, by definition, is an unsustainable society

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Speaker 2: because it will pit one person against another. Eventually, my

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Speaker 2: needs against your needs, and there's going to be a conflict.

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Speaker 2: And if we don't have an agreed upon arbiter or

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Speaker 2: absolutes or a system that determines right or wrong, if

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Speaker 2: it's just left up to each person to decide that,

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Speaker 2: then that creates a lot of conflict. There's violence, there's aggression,

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Speaker 2: and we see it so much over the last twenty years,

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Speaker 2: whether it's mass shootings, whether it's school shootings, whether it's

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Speaker 2: sex trafficking, abortion, physician assistant suicide now getting improved in

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Speaker 2: another state, whether it's euthanasia that we see in Canada,

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Speaker 2: Quebec is the biggest use of in Asia area in

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Speaker 2: the world. These kind of atrocities are just happening over

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Speaker 2: and over with this aggression that's going on. And I

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Speaker 2: think a real key statistic that the CDC has whenever

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Speaker 2: they survey teenagers high school students, they find that girls

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Speaker 2: suicidal thought, suicide plan, suicide attempt than males do. They

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Speaker 2: even use substances more often than males. And I think

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Speaker 2: it's because in this aggressive violence society, and you scroll,

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Speaker 2: you know, you scroll through your phone, and you see

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Speaker 2: these violent situations minute after minute after minute. I mean

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Speaker 2: it's you know, it's not stopped for girls out there

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Speaker 2: seeing this, and they're wondering, who is going to put

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Speaker 2: tect me in this violent society, Who is going to

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Speaker 2: stand up, Who has valor, who has integrity, who has

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Speaker 2: ability to and willingness to sacrifice for me? I think

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Speaker 2: this is what Charlie Kirk was so great at saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, our role is to step up. You need

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Speaker 2: to step up and think outside yourself, take care of

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Speaker 2: your responsibilities and your duties as a man. And you

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Speaker 2: know he was harshly criticized for that, but I think

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Speaker 2: that's the that's the biblical view, that's what we're here

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Speaker 2: to do. I think women are seeing that there's nobody

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Speaker 2: going to do that for them, so they don't get married.

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Speaker 2: Who am I gonna marry? There's nobody gonna protect me,

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Speaker 2: There's nobody that's willing to commit that I can trust

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Speaker 2: that's going to stay in this marriage and stay faithful

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Speaker 2: to me. Who's going to protect my kids? So they're

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Speaker 2: not having kids, they're waiting, in delaying or not even

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Speaker 2: having kids. Who our fertility rate is going down. I

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Speaker 2: think that's the huge issue is this postmodern society. People

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Speaker 2: are dying because the truth is dying. And as the

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Speaker 2: truth dies, and we see it in the elections, it's

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Speaker 2: being catered to, you know, you know, as you often

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Speaker 2: talk about, it's using weaponizing empathy in the process, using

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Speaker 2: emotions and allowing people to be emotional decision makers and

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Speaker 2: get them off track of which common sense, what science,

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Speaker 2: what's truth, and what's biblical.

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Speaker 1: We just want to love everybody, But the Bible says

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Speaker 1: speak the truth in love. Carl Socialism, Marxism, communism. I

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Speaker 1: mean when you look at ma'm donnie, I mean a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are describing with those terms. But there's

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Speaker 1: a piece of me that says, you know what, maybe

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Speaker 1: like with the Biden Harris administration, people wanted it to

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Speaker 1: get well, there's a sense it got so bad, it

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Speaker 1: got so exposed, it was like unbelievable what we were

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Speaker 1: going through. They were cascading up the cliff that people

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Speaker 1: it was the wake up call. Maybe again, Hey, we've

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Speaker 1: got a situation here where this thing gets exposed fast

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Speaker 1: and it gets ugly quick, and people are like, dude,

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Speaker 1: that's the wrong road to go down. We've got to

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Speaker 1: figure something out. I don't know. I was joking with

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Speaker 1: the guy saying, somebody must be welcome some good weed

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Speaker 1: or something. I have no idea what's going on, but

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Speaker 1: it's craziness, Carl, And maybe that's the prayer God exposed

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Speaker 1: this stuff quickly.

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Speaker 2: Well sometimes you know, you know, I'm an athlete, played

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Speaker 2: ball all my life, and you know there's our coaches

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Speaker 2: often see, hey boy, he's got this championship potential. But

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Speaker 2: right now he's just a bunch of raw material, raw

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Speaker 2: gifts and skills. But I need to mold him, and

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Speaker 2: so I need to train, put him through exercises, put

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Speaker 2: him through workouts. But then I sometimes need to push

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Speaker 2: him and have him go against a much a better team.

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Speaker 2: So if he's a tenth grader, we're going to play

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Speaker 2: against against a bunch of twelfth graders. He's gonna get

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Speaker 2: his butt kicked a little bit, but he's gonna see

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Speaker 2: what he needs to work on, what the problems are,

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Speaker 2: what areas of strengthenings. And sometimes I think God, you know,

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Speaker 2: provides these adversities in our life, drops these situations. He's

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Speaker 2: you know, he's in charge of everything. He's omnipotent, he's sovereign,

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Speaker 2: So he allows these things to occur, I think, to

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Speaker 2: wake us up to course correct, to help us understand, Hey,

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Speaker 2: where you know, where is the truth? What is the truth?

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Speaker 2: And sometimes we need glaring depictions of what truth isn't

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Speaker 2: to know reground ourselves and to hunker down, be motivated

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Speaker 2: to really follow him. And what does that look like

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Speaker 2: in our daily walk? You know, we can say on Sunday, Jesus,

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Speaker 2: you're my number one, Holy Spirit, come over me, you know,

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Speaker 2: God Almighty. But Monday through Saturday, what are we really doing?

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Speaker 2: Because that reveals our decisions that we make Monday through

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Speaker 2: Saturday really reveal our true object of worship and what

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Speaker 2: our actual theology is, not just our intellectual theology on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: So I think to be resilient in these kind of days,

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Speaker 2: in these kind of situations, is what God is calling

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Speaker 2: us to do, because there's a championship potential he has

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Speaker 2: for us down the line. But we need some of

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Speaker 2: this training, some of this refinement, some of this purification

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Speaker 2: for the bride of Christ to really walk into that

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Speaker 2: glorious championship potential that He has for us.

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Speaker 1: Carl, I want to close this way being resilient in

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Speaker 1: the midst of all this fighting our way through. You'd

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Speaker 1: referred to it versity earlier in our segment. Together, encourage us, Carl.

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Speaker 1: There's in the midst of storms, God helps see us through.

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Speaker 1: He gives us strengthening, you know what, and he directs

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Speaker 1: our path and you hold on to it. I hold

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Speaker 1: on to it, and we all need that, especially in

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Speaker 1: the midst of these challenging times. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So whenever there's adversity and I'm feeling a little, you know,

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Speaker 2: off kilter or not at peace or uneasy, you know,

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Speaker 2: I have a bracelet here, and I have a Bible

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Speaker 2: my life versus Isaiah twenty six y three. He gives

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Speaker 2: him perfect peace whose mind is fixed on the because

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Speaker 2: he trusts you. And I think that there's four key

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Speaker 2: elements of resilience. One is having a godly perspective and

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Speaker 2: instead of having the world or the w O R

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Speaker 2: L D frequency that I'm tuned to It's W O

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Speaker 2: R D, and when I fix my mind on him,

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Speaker 2: I have a much clearer perspective of the particular big

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Speaker 2: picture of why this adversity is happening. The second is

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Speaker 2: emotional regulation. To be able to manage your emotions, to

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Speaker 2: be able to be on top of your emotions, and

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Speaker 2: don't let your emotions run away, because when they do,

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Speaker 2: we make decisions based on emotions, poor decision making happens.

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Speaker 2: Emotions are a great warning system, terrible decision making system.

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Speaker 2: The third element of resilience is connection. God bill us

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Speaker 2: to be in connection with others. We need others to

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Speaker 2: help us unbind from our death wrappings like Lazarus. We

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Speaker 2: need to be in community, our marriage, our family, our

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Speaker 2: loved ones, our church, our local extended family. And then

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Speaker 2: the fourth thing is understanding the why. So when we

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Speaker 2: understand the why of the adversity, as I said, God's

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Speaker 2: looking to build us into this championship potential that He's

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Speaker 2: designed these good works ahead of time and He's gifted

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Speaker 2: us for. As we understand the why of the adversity,

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Speaker 2: we start to understand our why, and from that pain

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Speaker 2: becomes incredible purpose. I've seen it happen in my life

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Speaker 2: and thousands of people I've worked with over the years.

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Speaker 2: That's where resilience comes from. We have a lot of adversity.

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Speaker 2: There's going to be trials and tribulations. Things look dire

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Speaker 2: after these elections for in some ways. But God's in

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Speaker 2: charge and he's building us because He's got a great

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Speaker 2: comeback story for all of us.

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Speaker 1: Let's stay the course, stay anchored in Christ. Doctor Carl Benzio,

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Speaker 1: always great.

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Speaker 4: To have you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 2: Great tim Thanks a lot.

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Speaker 1: Healthy Veterans General d's what I'd like to have you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 6: Good to be with you, Doctor Tam, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Bob, it's been a wild week in America. Tell you what.

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Speaker 1: Election week. Pretty stunning results in New Jersey, Virginia, the

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Speaker 1: mayor of New York and more. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: are sucking heir, if you will, and they're thinking, what

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Speaker 1: in the world's going on? But Bob, we know God's

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Speaker 1: in control. He'll lead us. Just some reflections from you

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Speaker 1: as you look at you know, where our country's at,

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Speaker 1: where you think we're going.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think we've had a serious erosion of

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Speaker 6: some of our moral high ground over the last decade

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Speaker 6: or so, and it would be nice to get that back.

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Speaker 6: But elections in this country, you know, have consequences, and

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Speaker 6: I think Christians and Conservatives need to act maturely, need

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Speaker 6: to clean up the civil discourse because you know, it

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Speaker 6: says in the Good Book, it says be quick to hear,

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Speaker 6: slow to speak, slow to get angry, And that's what

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Speaker 6: we need model as citizens. I would say, you know,

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Speaker 6: given the hat that I wear, that given the partisan divide,

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Speaker 6: that we have everything so polarized that we need to

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Speaker 6: find common denominators, and one common denominator is that on

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Speaker 6: both sides we ought to be able to support support

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Speaker 6: the veterans of our nation. And you know, there's there's

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Speaker 6: nothing wrong with that, There's nothing that's you know, if

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Speaker 6: you support veterans, it's not necessarily given the other side

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Speaker 6: an advantage. Is just the right thing to do. And

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Speaker 6: so we ask, as we near Veterans Day, where would

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Speaker 6: be without our veterans. You know, gratefully, they've been there

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Speaker 6: during the course of history. You know, they on six

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Speaker 6: June nineteen forty four, they didn't say it's too wet

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Speaker 6: as to Wendy, I think we'll go tomorrow. They went

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Speaker 6: all across those beaches, many of them never to return.

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Speaker 6: And that's happened in the course of our nation's history.

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Speaker 6: So as we enter the season of Veterans Day, we

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Speaker 6: honor our veterans, their service, and we honor the active

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Speaker 6: duty that are out there being beneficial in protecting us

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Speaker 6: right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and general deeds and their families, those who, yeah,

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Speaker 1: who sacrificed so much, some gave all. Bob, I know

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Speaker 1: that Veterans Day has a special place in your heart,

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Speaker 1: always has you And I've had many conversations around this.

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Speaker 1: It's anchored in that thought that freedom isn't free, and

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Speaker 1: we appreciate those who do serve, who protect us, who

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Speaker 1: protect our country, and so much more. Bob, when you

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Speaker 1: think of a strong national defense, we think about President

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Speaker 1: Trump and what's going on. And by the way, I

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Speaker 1: mean such an emphasis right now on our military, a

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Speaker 1: celebration of our military. What a strong national defense mean

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Speaker 1: to you? And why is it important?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, I think it's in the whole notion of

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Speaker 6: peace through strength. We've seen that in the past of

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Speaker 6: our nation's history, particularly Ronald Reagan. President Trump certainly ascribes

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Speaker 6: to that, and we have, I think seen some very

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Speaker 6: positive aspects of our national improvement of our military over

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Speaker 6: the last six months and also our prosecution of international

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Speaker 6: foreign policy. The recovery of the warrior ethos is critical.

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Speaker 6: Napoleon said, the moral is to the physical is three

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Speaker 6: is to one, and a lot of that moral aspect,

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Speaker 6: the moral high ground in the US military has been

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Speaker 6: sacrificed by attention on wokeness, critical race theory, esg.

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Speaker 5: Etc.

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Speaker 6: Even in the military, green energy and the military we're

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Speaker 6: it's been an emphtais sun for instance, having green tanks.

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Speaker 6: Go figure.

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Speaker 5: I can't.

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Speaker 6: I can't see how that would work. And so the

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Speaker 6: bottom line is that in the last six months, the

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Speaker 6: Trump administration of the Secretary of War, Hexith, et cetera,

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Speaker 6: I think have made instrumental gains, and that bites well

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Speaker 6: for the future. That said, you know, we've got the

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Speaker 6: strongest military in the world, but we got to we

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Speaker 6: have to recognize the trends, particularly China. For every ship

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Speaker 6: that the United States makes, China makes about one hundred ships,

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Speaker 6: and then you compare that across other forms of technology,

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Speaker 6: and we the trend lines are not healthy for us.

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Speaker 6: And so we've got to recover the strength that we've

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Speaker 6: had before and continue to grow in a technological sense

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Speaker 6: to keep up.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of work there. I know they're talking

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Speaker 1: about that Golden Dome too. I'd probably love to hear

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Speaker 1: an update on what's happening with that. But Bob, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to go a little further here. President Trump secretary

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Speaker 1: HEGs a really strong commitment to the military. Secretary of

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Speaker 1: He except, by the way, not shy about his faith either.

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Speaker 1: But he's been going around and speaking to the leadership

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Speaker 1: of each of the divisions of our armed forces and more.

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Speaker 1: And there seems to be a real, I mean energy

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Speaker 1: said our strength isn't diversity. He said, our strength is unity.

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Speaker 1: We need to come together and be strong. Some reflections from.

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Speaker 6: You, right, well, I certainly agree with that. You just

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Speaker 6: look at the recruiting as a metric, and the recruiting

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Speaker 6: has gone out of the red zone into the green zone,

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Speaker 6: very healthy, and that's been a result of improved morale,

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Speaker 6: improved perception of the US military and strength. And so yes,

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Speaker 6: I applaud sectary of Hex's moves. You'll notice, speaking of

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Speaker 6: the warrior spirit, he wears a pin in his lapel

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Speaker 6: every day and it's a one hundred and eighty seventh

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Speaker 6: Regimental Combat Team and I both served in that outfit.

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Speaker 6: So we hold together this rocaissance, which is the battle

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Speaker 6: cry of that organization. He has a real warrior ethic.

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Speaker 6: He's served in combat. He now is leading others who

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Speaker 6: are getting ready for combat. I applaud his efforts.

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Speaker 1: I kind of laugh when I see him working out

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Speaker 1: with the troops, you know, and stuff. I think it's

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Speaker 1: I think that's awesome.

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing like getting done in there and just look

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Speaker 1: a eyed eye with each other and saying, hey, we're

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Speaker 1: standing shoulder to shoulder. We got our buddy system together.

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Speaker 1: We got your back, I've got mine. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: that kind of mindset, Bob, that just says, hey, here

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Speaker 1: we go. You are also aware of what's happening abroad.

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Speaker 1: I know in social media we've seen a lot on

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Speaker 1: Nigeria right now, this genocide basically of Christians happening there. Bob,

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Speaker 1: Secretary Hegseth very strong on what's happening. President Trump big

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Speaker 1: time sending a message saying, hey, listen, we're not going

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Speaker 1: to tolerate this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 5: Bob.

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Speaker 1: That peace through strength mindset talk us through some of

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Speaker 1: the strategy there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, I totally applaud the administrations moved to reduce persecution

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Speaker 6: worldwide and particularly Nigeria. I've served in Nigeria and the

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Speaker 6: Nigerian Christian Muslim fault line that goes across the northern

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Speaker 6: part of the country. When I was serving in Nigeria

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Speaker 6: training the Nigerian Special Forces, every day there would be

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Speaker 6: an example of a Christian out on that frontier sort

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Speaker 6: of getting an arm chopped off or being killed. And

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Speaker 6: that was going on really fifteen years ago. I can

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Speaker 6: only imagine with Bokohram and some growth of those terrorist

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Speaker 6: organizations how much more serious it has gotten. So I

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Speaker 6: totally agree with it, subscribe to that, not only in Nigeria,

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Speaker 6: but in places like China where they have the same

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Speaker 6: disregard for human rights.

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Speaker 1: Right the Center, the National Center for Healthy Veterans, you're

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Speaker 1: the CEO of that entity. It's doing some amazing work.

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Speaker 1: But Bob, tell us a little bit about the organization

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Speaker 1: mission and what you're praying God really does end through her.

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Speaker 6: You bet well, Thanks for asking, Tim. People can go

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Speaker 6: to find out more at Healthy Veterans dot org, to

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Speaker 6: refer veterans or to help us. You know, we need

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Speaker 6: beans and bullets. But today, Tim, we had a graduation.

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Speaker 6: Our bumper sticker is to return healthy veterans to America.

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Speaker 6: And today we graduated from different courses, eight different veterans,

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Speaker 6: and there wasn't a dry eye in the room, as

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Speaker 6: one veteran after another would say, you saved my life.

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Speaker 6: You saved my life, You saved my life. I was

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Speaker 6: getting ready to kill myself. This was my last best

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Speaker 6: chance on the rest of my life. It's just amazing,

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Speaker 6: and that doesn't happen just by a snap of the fingers.

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Speaker 6: We have a very intentional progressive program. We're a nine

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Speaker 6: month residential program. We say we're a Crockpotto in my

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Speaker 6: mind microwave Society, and we help deal with very at

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Speaker 6: risk veterans, at risk of suicide. And most of them

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Speaker 6: have a drug or an alcohol background, not currently addicted,

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Speaker 6: but nevertheless there every day is a day of sobriety

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Speaker 6: for them. So we're seeing good progress. And then, as

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Speaker 6: you know, last November our barn burned down. We're headed

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Speaker 6: to the first anniversary. Some of our folks will be triggered,

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Speaker 6: including me, and yet in the last ten months so

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Speaker 6: we were able to get the new arena built. We've

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Speaker 6: had multiple events in there already, and so we see

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Speaker 6: that when something burns up in ashes, God often replaces

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Speaker 6: it in a much better way, and that's true of us.

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Speaker 6: It has strengthened our team, strengthened our people, enhanced our infrastructure.

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Speaker 6: So we're grateful for all of that. And we just

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Speaker 6: ask people around the nation to look to their left

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Speaker 6: and right and see if they're soldiers, sailors, theirmen, Marines

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Speaker 6: that need our help, Veterans that maybe have been stuck

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Speaker 6: in our parents' basement playing video games, Veterans that are suicidal,

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Speaker 6: veterans living under bridges, perhaps incarcerated. We have all of

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Speaker 6: those examples, and we've seen God do amazing things and

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Speaker 6: put people back out on the street productive citizens. I

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Speaker 6: say that America needs her veterans now more than ever

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Speaker 6: before as businessmen, entrepreneurs, coaches, educators, etc. Societalal models. So

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Speaker 6: that's what we do here, and we're seeing good results.

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Speaker 6: And send us some more sons and daughters of America

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Speaker 6: so we can help them get healthy and get back

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Speaker 6: out do good things for America.

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Speaker 1: General d is that website one more time If people.

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Speaker 6: Want to learn more, you bet Healthy Veterans dot org.

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Speaker 1: General, thank you for your service and for all that

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Speaker 1: you're doing for our veterans. Happy Veterans Day, my friend, and.

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Speaker 6: You too, Tim, You're a great patriot. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 3: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love a part

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Speaker 3: of your life.

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Speaker 1: And closing. These are unprecedented times. They're difficult times, confusing times,

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Speaker 1: but I know this God's in control and he's at work.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're pressing close to Him in his heart,

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Speaker 1: and know that God loves you and wants to be

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Speaker 1: in your life. Our hope, our strength, remember, comes from

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Speaker 1: the Lord. There's an encourage verse to hold on to

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Speaker 1: from the Bible. This week saw him thirty seven verses

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Speaker 1: twenty five through twenty seven. I shared earlier, I've been young,

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Speaker 1: nor his seed begging for bread. He's merciful, and he leenteth,

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Speaker 1: and his seed is blessed. Apart from evil, do good

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Speaker 1: and dwell forever more. Hey, what can you do as

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Speaker 1: we close to honor our veterans this week? Pray for

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Speaker 1: our veterans a lot of challenges PTSD, homelessness, suicide and more.

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Speaker 1: Number two, you know your patriotism?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Probably? Five the American flag and give recognition at work

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Speaker 1: in our churches. Number three visit cemeteries. Go to something

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Speaker 1: like Arlington or the Tomb of the Unknown there or

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Speaker 1: other memorials. Number four go to a Veterans Day parade.

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Speaker 1: Five Visit a veteran regardless of their age of time

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Speaker 1: and service. Let them know that their love and appreciated,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you'll take time to honor veterans On

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Speaker 1: November eleventh, at eleven am Moment of silence. Doctor Tim

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Speaker 1: Clinton is always thanks for watching. See you next week

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Speaker 1: right here on Sunday, The Road Forward on Real America's

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