1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off right now, and 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: we wanted to survey a bit of the political landscape 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: as we come back from our various Thanksgiving celebrations across 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: the country. I hope you all had a very blessed Thanksgiving. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: I had a great time up in New York with 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: my family up there, and then I discussed we ate 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: too much. I will say, I think the thing that 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: I probably overindulged in the most sweet potatoes with marshmallow 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: on top. 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: Oh that's good. 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Hard. The problem with that is it just becomes like 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: an everything sauce. You can mix that in with it, 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: mix it in with your green beans, mix it in 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: with your turkey. Taste good with everything. So that was 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: that was the direction that I would if you what 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: was the one thing, Clay, you were like, I probably 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: should put. 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: The spoon down now. I thought, this is a perfect thing. Buck. 19 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: So I walked with my fifteen year old we were 20 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: going to go to the gym on Thanksgiving. Before we 21 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: ate went to the gym, it was closed, so we 22 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: were walking back. Everybody else by the way, my wife 23 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 3: was doing the turkey trot. So they're way healthier. They're 24 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: running like the five K or the ten K like 25 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: a lot of people do all over the country. 26 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: And just tell everybody that your wife and my wife 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: get up at seven am in Florida to go work out, 28 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: and Clay and I are like texting about, you know, 29 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: over coffee, about what. 30 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: We're gonna do on the show True to Act one 31 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 3: hundred percent accurate and they're gonna live twenty five years 32 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: longer than both of us two. But the So we're 33 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: walking back, a fifteen year old and I and walk 34 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 3: past a store that's open, and they have a woman 35 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 3: out front who is selling her pies right like her 36 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: homemade pies, and she has three types, pumpkin pie, and 37 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: my fifteen year old Ben saying, hey, I want to 38 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: try pumpkin pie. Everything else, key lime pie, which is 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: kind of a Florida staple. If you had to say 40 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: one pie kind of represents state of Florida, I think 41 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: you'd say key lime, and then and then pecan pie, 42 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: which is my favorite. And I understand there are lots 43 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: of people out there that are either super you're all 44 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: in on pecan pie. 45 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: Or you hate it. So I bought all three. 46 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: So that morning, Buck, I went to the gym thinking 47 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: that I was going to work out instead, I bought 48 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: three pies and I ate all three of them substantially 49 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: at our dinner. So to answer your question, so it 50 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: just showed up with three different pies on my trip 51 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: to the gym, which probably sums up Thanksgiving very very well. 52 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 3: No workout, three pies instead pumpkin pie is very delicious. 53 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: All right, let's dive into this now. Also, here is 54 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 3: Trump arriving, because I had mentioned this in the last hour. 55 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: Here's Trump arriving at the South Carolina Clemson football game. 56 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 2: Play two. 57 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: About how many people? About how many people are in 58 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: that stadium? 59 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: Just so so Williams Bryce Stadium, which is the home 60 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: of the South Carolina game Cocks in their yearly rivalry 61 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: game against Clemson. I would say eighty five thousand, eighty 62 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: six thousand, something like that would be the seating capacity 63 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: for I'm guessing off the top of my head. You 64 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 3: guys can look it up in studio, but I think 65 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: it's about eighty five or eighty six of Williams Bryce. 66 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: So it's it's massive. So Trump obviously getting getting a 67 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: whole lot of love in that stadium, and you're getting 68 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: a whole lot of love in the polls too, still 69 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: way way ahead. We got Iowa coming up January fifteenth. 70 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: That's the thing. We're gonna have a few weeks here 71 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: to hang. 72 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: Clay's actually gonna be going on vacation, so I'll be 73 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: solo with you guys for about a week or so, 74 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: and we got our excellent guest host, Michael Barry, will 75 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: be taken over over the holiday for a little bit. 76 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: But Clay, it's it's we're gonna come back from the 77 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 1: holidays and it's like, oh my gosh, I yeah, it'll 78 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: be right there. So we really are in the final 79 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: phase here, before votes are being tallied and points are 80 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: being put up on the board beyond just polls, right, 81 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be actual points, actual delegates. And interestingly, you 82 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: get a couple of things happening right now. One the 83 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: you know, it's a three person races. We've discussed Ronda Stantist, 84 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, Nicki Haley, viveg Ramaswami's actually looking pretty good 85 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: in some of the Iowa polls I've seen, but we'll 86 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 1: get back in not for first place, but he's close 87 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: with the other two. Clay, You've got the later this week, 88 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: so I don't want to get too far ahead of 89 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: it because it'll just be on Thursday, the DeSantis Newsom debate. 90 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: I worry a little bit about how this will go. 91 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: Fortis amazing record, a plus governor, but Newsom is slippery. 92 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: Newsom is smooth, he's you know, and he sees this 93 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: as an opportunity. You got that going on, and then 94 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: I wanted your take on this Wall Street Journal piece, 95 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: Nicky Haley's challenge, keep anteach Trump GEOP vote, but add 96 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: some Trump backers. They're saying she has surge and she 97 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: is really fighting hard now to be in that strong 98 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: second place behind Trump. Still way behind Trump, but second 99 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: place around the arrest of the competition. 100 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: So, by the way, Williams of Brice Stadium seventy eight 101 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: thousand ish, so a little bit off there. I've been 102 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: to a bunch of games there, fabulous place to see 103 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: a football game. And I asked the question on social media, 104 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: Buck before I dive into your Nicky Haley question. Could 105 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: Joe Biden go to any sporting event in America and 106 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: get a reception like Trump did? We played I think 107 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: the audio of Trump at the UFC and Madison Square Garden, 108 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: not like Madison Square Garden in New York City is 109 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: renowned as a place where Republicans are beloved. 110 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: UFC crowd goes crazy for Trump. 111 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: I don't think there's any college football stadium in America 112 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: that would cheer Biden. And there were a couple of 113 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: clips of Trump getting booed that went viral, I think 114 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: because there's a desperation on the left for some people 115 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: to dislike Trump. But I've been in the stadiums with Trump. 116 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: I was at Alabama for the LSU game. Trump is 117 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 3: beloved all over the South, all over the Big Twelve, 118 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 3: most of the ACC and I think he'd get a 119 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 3: solid reception in much of the Big ten and the 120 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: Pac twelve even But the big question for me on 121 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: what you were asking as we are sitting here less 122 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: than fifty days until the Republican Caucus in Iowa. So 123 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: I just keep looking at this, and I think that 124 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: if everybody dropped out and it was Nicky Haley against 125 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, I don't see how the math works in 126 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 3: Nicky Haley's favor because I think most people who dropped out. 127 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: If Ron DeSantis dropped out of this race tomorrow, I 128 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: think sixty five percent of his audience would go to 129 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. If Vivek Ramaswami dropped out, I think eighty 130 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: five or ninety percent of his support would go to 131 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: Trump easily, And if Christy drops out, his support would 132 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: go to probably Nicky Haley. I just don't think the 133 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: math adds up for Nicky Haley. I'm open to the 134 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: idea that DeSantis in a straight head to head against 135 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: Trump could be somewhat competitive, because I think everybody who 136 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: was supporting Nicky Haley would go to DeSantis. I think 137 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: everybody who was supporting Christy would go to DeSantis. I 138 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: just tell me where you think I'm missing here, just 139 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: a simple math equation. I think that Nicky Haley's audience 140 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: is anti Trump. I don't think that Ron DeSantis's audience 141 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: is and dis agree there if she got into a 142 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: head to head against Trump, where where her support is 143 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: gonna come from? 144 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: No, I think that that analysis is correct on the numbers. 145 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: I think that of the people who are Ron voters 146 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: in this primary, I would guess, and this is just 147 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: a guess, but my gut feeling is, you know, ninety 148 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: some odd percent plus voted for Trump in the last election, 149 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: or have voted for him at least once, and I 150 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: think a similar number probably voted from twice. So they're 151 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: Trump voters who this time around think there's something else 152 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: that they want to do. I think what's been a surprise, 153 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: And there's been a little bit of back and forth 154 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: on social media because I tried to say this before 155 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: and people are saying, you know, that they're misconstruing what 156 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: I was saying. Clay, there's been a little bit of 157 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: a surprise that there hasn't been more of a hemorrhaging 158 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: of support from the Trump side to the dissent to 159 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: side over the last six. 160 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: Months or so. 161 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, that the whole thing was going to be Trump 162 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: is going to have this lead. Everyone knew Trump is 163 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: going to have his base. But then maybe people would 164 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: start to start to siphon over and start to go 165 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: into the DeSantis camp from Trump, because really they're I mean, 166 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: they're both very you know, they're both very sort of 167 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: am first, both very conservative on a whole range of issues, 168 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: although Trump kind of defies political categorization in some ways. 169 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: But that hasn't really happened yet. So to your point, 170 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: the only way that this becomes a competitive race would 171 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: be a cleared field where you could see the rest 172 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: of the let's say Trump's at fifty, well DeSantis is 173 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: at fifteen to twenty. Call it the rest of the 174 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: thirty percent out standing in the GOP field. How much 175 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: of that goes to DeSantis versus how much of that 176 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: goes to Trump. I can also see a reality in 177 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: which Nikki Hally, just to your point, goes head to 178 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: head with Trump and wins in any scenario. But that's 179 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: I think if they were trying to win Iowa, Buck, 180 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: if you were just saying, okay, the same way that 181 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: we give strategy and everything else, I would say that 182 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis would win Iowa. If Nicki Hayley dropped out 183 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: and said, I'm going to be Ron DeSantis's VP, and 184 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: if Chris Christy said, and I'm just tossing this out, 185 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: I'm going to be as attorney general and we'revoing together 186 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: a unity candidacy to try to go after Trump. I 187 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: don't think Vivek would join that unity candidacy. I think 188 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: he's a Trump guy, and so I think he would 189 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: either throw his lot with Trump. But if you if 190 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: right now, if I were saying, okay, we're trying to 191 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: win all we care about is winning. I think DeSantis 192 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: as president, Nicky as VP, and Chris Christy as Attorney General, 193 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: with that being a sort of unity ticket on the 194 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: Republican side opposed to Trump, could give Trump an actual run, 195 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: but it would have to happen soon, like like very 196 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: soon in Iowa, and then I think it would give 197 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: him a run in New Hampshire. Otherwise, what I think 198 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: is gonna happen is everybody's gonna think, hey, I'm gonna 199 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: be the two and instead the more the longer people 200 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: stay in, the more it benefits Trump. And I don't 201 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: think you're gonna see that kind of selflessness. And by 202 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: the way, the reason why I say de Santus president 203 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: Nicki Haley vice president, I'm not making any kind of 204 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: choice between the two. I just think DeSantis has to 205 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: be at the top of the ticket or a lot 206 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: of that support would be hemorrhaged in a way. Most 207 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: Nicky Haley people are anti Trump. They're gonna vote for 208 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: the Trump alternative. Certainly that's true for Chris Christy. I 209 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: still think a lot of DeSantis people would vote for 210 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: Trump if DeSantis weren't in the race. And I think 211 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: that's why it's been so nasty between the two of them. 212 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: This also reminds me of what the discussion was a 213 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: little later than this, but back in twenty end of 214 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen into twenty sixteen, and once you got going, 215 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: it really turned into a three plus one race of Trump, 216 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: Rubio Cruz and then Kasik. 217 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah remember him? Ever? Remember him? 218 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 4: He? 219 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: You know, not the warmest and fuzziest guy. I'll just 220 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: say that for any of the Kasak fans out there, 221 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: he can be a little irascible, but he had something 222 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: like a ten percent chunk that was staying with Kasik. 223 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: And I never kept saying, look, you know, anyone who 224 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: wanted it to be not Trump was making this case 225 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: of well, you need these guys to but ultimately, what's 226 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: the in you know, you just laid out how it 227 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: could theoretically work. I know, you don't think that's gonna happen. 228 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen. Where you have you know, 229 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: had the only way I see at work. It's got 230 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: to be a unity candidate. Yeah, this is what I mean. Yeah, 231 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: but these. 232 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: People don't want unity. 233 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 5: They want to win, and they want to be in 234 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 5: the spotlight and they want to stay in it till 235 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 5: the very end, in the way that they can you know, 236 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 5: it's it's a me first situation with politicians, and so 237 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 5: I just don't see it. 238 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: There's you know, could you first see any way that 239 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 1: any of them. The only thing I could see is 240 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: at some point Veke is like, you know what, I'm 241 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: gonna be Trump's you know, Treasury secretary. So see you 242 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: guys later. I'm all team Trump all the way. I 243 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: could see that happening. 244 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I I what should I did think? 245 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 3: On Wednesday, we had Chris Christy on the show, and 246 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 3: it seemed like Christy was in recognition that he said, 247 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: for instance, I could support Nicki Haley or Ron DeSantis, 248 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: I wouldn't vote for anybody else. When we come back, 249 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: we need to play Mitt Romney coming out and saying 250 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: that he wouldn't vote for Trump or Vive Karamaswami in 251 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 3: the event that they were the Republican nominee. I get 252 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: it if you're upset that Trump is the nominee, the 253 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: fact that you would vote for Joe Biden. Again, if 254 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: Mitt Romney, here's a question for you, Buck. You've been 255 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: in this game on the Republican side longer than me. 256 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: Is Mitt Romney, given that he was the Republican nominee 257 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: for president, the greatest turncoat in Republican Party history in 258 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: your life? 259 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 2: Oo, the ultimate GOP, Benedict Arnold. 260 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: Go think about it. You can think about it during 261 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: a break. We'll play that audio for you when we 262 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 3: come back. But you have a longer historical record of that. 263 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: I can't think of anybody to go from being the 264 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: nominee for president in twenty twelve to saying twelve years 265 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: later I would vote for Joe Biden is pretty unbelievable 266 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: to me. Yeah, and I actually have a thought about 267 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: what the impact of this will be, but let's tell 268 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: we'll dive into that here when we come back in 269 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: just a moment. 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Buck 295 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: may have an answer for me in a moment, but 296 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: Mitt Romney has got to be very much at the 297 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: top of the list. He's leaving the Senate from Utah 298 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: and on his way out he's saying, if Trump is 299 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: the nominee, I'll vote for Biden or any other Democrat. 300 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: Here's that audio. 301 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 4: Anybody you know I would I'd be happy to support 302 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 4: virtually any one of the Republicans. Maybe not Vivek but 303 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 4: but the others that are running would would be acceptable 304 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: to me, and I'd be happy to vote for them. 305 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: I'd be happy to vote for a number of the 306 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 4: Democrats too, I mean, would be an upgrade from, in 307 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: my opinion, from Donald Trump and perhaps also from Joe Biden. 308 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: Look. 309 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: I like President Biden, you know, I find him a 310 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 4: very charming, engaging person. There's some places I agree with him, 311 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 4: but most places I disagree with him. I think he's 312 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 4: made all sorts of terrible mistakes. But I would like 313 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 4: to see someone else from Wow. 314 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: I mean, this is end stage Trump derangement syndrome. To 315 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: what you were saying before, to go from the GOP 316 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: nominee in twenty twelve, who was talking about Everify nationwide 317 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: and self deportation for illegals, and he actually actually had 318 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: some good I remember the Romney campaign, well, actually had 319 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: some good things to say, and certainly would have been 320 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: better on the economy than Barack Obama. 321 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: But that's not saying much. 322 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: But to go to the point where he's like, I 323 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: would I would vote for Biden over Trump. This is 324 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: what happens, man. This is when you get caught up 325 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: in it, right. I mean, that's what he's saying, you 326 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: could vote Biden over Trump. That means he would vote 327 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: for the Democrat apparatus over whatever the Republican Party's trying 328 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: to accomplish. It means that he would burn down everything 329 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: that he ever pretended to stand for. At least you know, 330 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: when he was running for president in twenty twelve. 331 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: Can you remember anybody who I don't think. I know 332 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: the Bushes are not particular fans of Trump. 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Our good friend Sean Hannity will be 368 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: moderating that one, which I've got to say, people might 369 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: immediately think to themselves, oh wait, but if you have 370 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: a guy who's a conservative moderating, doesn't that put newsim 371 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: at some kind of disadvantage. First of all, I think 372 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: Sean's going to try to just do a fair debate 373 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: because it makes it a better experience, right, Let both 374 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: sides talk, and let you know, just it's it is 375 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: possible to be a referee who doesn't cheat. I know 376 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: the Democrat media think they've got to, you know, Candy Crowley, 377 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: every situation in a presidential debate where they jump in 378 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: for one side, But it is possible to actually be 379 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: fair minded in these things. I don't even say this. 380 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: I thought in the last Republican debate. Who was at NBC, right, 381 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: But NBC did a pretty good job. Trump wasn't there, 382 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: so it wasn't as big of a debate as it 383 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: would have otherwise been. But I thought they did a 384 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: pretty good job in the nuts and bolts of it. 385 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: They let people speak and they kind of kept it 386 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: on track. But here's the thing. Newsom is setting it up. 387 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: So it's a can't lose for him because he goes 388 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: into the lions. Then he goes up against DeSantis, who 389 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: his supporters, you know, Newsham's left wing Democrat Californians are 390 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: all very very anti DeSantis. DeSantis is going to have 391 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: the facts on his side, but he isn't necessarily as 392 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: adapt on stage telling stories and emoting and those sorts 393 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: of things. So Kim strasseled, you know, Kim, you ever 394 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: met her? Brilliant We were on the show, didn't we. Yeah, 395 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: shat out most recent book. I think, yeah, I don't 396 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: know him for years. Probably my favorite Wall Street Journal columnist. 397 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: You know, there are a couple of people in that 398 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: in that realm, but she's a great, great writer with 399 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal, very sharp mind. Here's what she 400 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: had to say about it, Play fifteen. 401 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 7: I mean, the upsides are incredibly obvious. He's been on 402 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 7: a fairly crowded debate stage within the GOP primary. This 403 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 7: is going to be a one on one in front 404 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 7: of an audience of people who want to listen of this, 405 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 7: and he's got the better of the issues. The risk here, though, 406 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 7: is that he stumbles himself. The risk is that Gavin Newsom, who, 407 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 7: by the way, we might not like his policies, he's 408 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 7: pretty good up on a stage. He can certainly he's 409 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 7: got a bit of a silver tongue. He could embarrass DeSantis. 410 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 7: He could also, you know, highlight some of the things 411 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 7: that potentially are causing DeSantis more problems in his own 412 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 7: primary situation. So I mean, I think the biggest issue 413 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 7: for him is this would be an unforced error. 414 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 4: You know. 415 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: Look, here's where this matters for right now. And I'm 416 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: just because we were talking about the primary and the 417 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: way the tectonic plates of the primary could possibly shift, 418 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: because it's been not a lot of shifting really, Nicki 419 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: Haley's gained a little ground recently. But Clay, is this 420 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: an opportunity for DeSantis on stage by exposing Newsom and 421 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: the bad Newsomian policies. 422 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: If that's a thing. 423 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: Is this an opportunity for on to move the needle 424 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: in advance of Iowa in a way that matters? 425 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: Man, I cannot wait to watch this, So let's start there. 426 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: This is Thursday night. I think Sean's gonna do a 427 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: great job with it. Credit to him for bringing this together. 428 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: Ron de Santis is right on every single fact, every 429 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 3: single one of them. Florida is a superior run state 430 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 3: to California. And that is to a large measure because 431 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: Rond de Santis has made the right decisions and Gavin 432 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 3: Newsom has made the wrong decisions. But Buck, Gavin Newsom 433 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 3: is the better debater, and I think he's going to 434 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: come across on television as more likable. 435 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 2: And this is where you've made fun of me. Go 436 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 2: out to French laundry. 437 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 3: I think Gavin Newsom and I could have a nice 438 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 3: rose sip some Chardonnay's look out over the vineyards. 439 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: I'm telling you your wife, my wife. 440 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: Women out there are going to watch Gavin Newsom and 441 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 3: he's gonna be glib, and he's gonna be uh wrong 442 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 3: on all the facts. But he's gonna smile a lot, 443 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 3: and he is going to emmote well. This to me 444 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 3: would be a perfect example. 445 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 2: Buck. 446 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: Remember back in the day when Nixon and JFK debated, 447 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: Oh of course, and you had the appearance on TV 448 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 3: that made such a big difference. Radio listeners said Nixon 449 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 3: won the debate. Television viewers said that JFK won the debate. 450 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 3: I feel like there could be a dynamic at play 451 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: very similar here. I'll make a prediction as well about this. 452 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: I think that you'll see Newsome be very respectful and 453 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: and and even even occasionally maybe a little warm towards Sean, 454 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: and it's just gonna it's just gonna spit Venom into 455 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: santiss direction, you know what I mean. So that's that's 456 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: kind of how he'll play it, you know. Okay, you know, 457 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: Sean's a very likable guy, and so he's gonna be like, oh, 458 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: look I can be I'm reasonable America, Like I'm being 459 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: so good to Sean. But then he's just because because 460 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: it really really upsets the left, you. 461 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: Know, he really bothers them. 462 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: So there's no downside for Newsom, you know, in this scenario, 463 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: I think he sort of does a he's uh, you know, 464 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: relatively relatively cordial to Shawn while he's gonna just throw 465 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: haymakers at DeSantis all day. 466 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 3: I like that prediction. Here's my advice that I would 467 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: give for DeSantis and his camp. 468 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 2: Enjoy it. 469 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 3: There are times on stage when I watch the debate 470 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: where DeSantis seems pain to be there. If you are 471 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 3: enjoying the experience. I texted Tutor right before she hosted 472 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: our show on Friday, I said, just have a good time. 473 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 3: Having a good time is contagious. I think that when 474 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: DeSantis has a punch thrown at him in a debate, 475 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 3: he takes it very, very serious, and that seriousness translates 476 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: into discomfort on television, and it would be far better 477 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 3: off to laugh off whatever punches are being thrown in 478 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: your direction and just enjoy the experience. 479 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 2: I think what Newsom's gonna do again he's wrong on 480 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 2: all the facts. 481 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think he'll be nice to Hannity. 482 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: I think he'll smile a lot on camera. I think 483 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 3: he'll look comfortable, and even when DeSantis is in there 484 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: like hitting him with body blows. I think he's gonna 485 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 3: be a little bit like Muhammad Ali in the ropodope, right, 486 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: He's gonna take all those punches. He's going to keep 487 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 3: kind of smiling and keep his comportment. 488 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: Most people. Most people don't react. 489 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 3: And this is something that I think is frustrating to 490 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: many people who and I'm one of them, care about facts. 491 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 3: Most people react more to body language and facial expression, 492 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: and then they do to what's actually said. Buck And 493 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 3: I think I used to do this when I did 494 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 3: early morning television. I would watch television. I know we 495 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 3: sometimes have televisions on. Now I'm convinced you can tell 496 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 3: who's good at television. I think Roger Ale said the 497 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: same thing Formula who ran Fox News without a word 498 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 3: even being said on television. 499 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: Oh you can without the volume on. 500 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you can tell by body language, by expression, 501 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 3: by facial remarks, you know, by whether you like someone 502 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: or not without them saying a word. And I think 503 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 3: DeSantis has still not mastered the non emotive aspects of debate. 504 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? 505 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 506 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: I saw him debate Charlie christ who can you were 507 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: there in person? Just the most uh oleaginists? Yes, characters? Yes, 508 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: why thank you? And you know he rom is right 509 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: on all the facts. I mean This is the thing. 510 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: I feel like what've seen from Ron on debate stage 511 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: is he's kind of standing there like, hey, guys, scoreboard, 512 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: and the scoreboard for him as governor of Florida looks 513 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: looks phenomenal. I mean, that's my assessment. And obviously the 514 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: numbers of people moving to Florida speaks to that. He's 515 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: got a lot of again scoreboard, right, I mean, there's 516 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: what he's done, and there's how people have reacted to that, 517 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: and all of that data is very supportive of supportive 518 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: of him as governor. Meanwhile, California is hemorrhaging people and 519 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: got all these problems, and it's cities or you know, 520 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, you don't hear about like crime overtaking the 521 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: cities in the state of Florida. There's reasons for that. 522 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: You do hear about it in San Francisco and La 523 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: and and and what you have, Clay is somehow the 524 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: Democrat next up at bat if you will, after Biden, 525 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: seems to be Gavin Newsom right the next time around, 526 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: if not just on the next time, despite the data 527 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: being against him, and Ron DeSantis is running into serious 528 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: headwinds even in his own party. In some ways, with 529 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: all these great number and I feel like this is 530 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: indicative of where the parties are right now, Like ourside 531 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: gets great results but doesn't put on a great show. Yes, well, 532 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: Trump puts on a great show. This is Trump is 533 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: the exception that Trump makes it all fun. Trump makes 534 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: it all entertainment, which is a that's part of the 535 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: sort of magic of the trump Ism. 536 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of analogies you can draw 537 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: that also apply in your business, not your personally, but 538 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: everybody out there listening. There are often times if you're 539 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: on the car sales lot or you're at whatever business 540 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: that you're in. For instance, there's a guy who doesn't 541 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: post the numbers but is very likable that keeps getting promoted. 542 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: And then there's the guy who is like crunching the 543 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: numbers and he's there all the time, but he doesn't 544 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 3: have the same interpersonal skills and he's not getting rewarded 545 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: for the work. 546 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: That he's putting in. 547 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 3: I feel like DeSantis is the grinder and a Newsome 548 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: is the glib you know, shaking hands, kissing babies expert, 549 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: And what you would like to have is that twin together. 550 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 3: But Newsom is gonna glide by despite the fact that 551 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: he actually sucks at his job, because he seems confident 552 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: and seems to be having a good time, and meanwhile, 553 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis is like they're you know, like typing away 554 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 3: madly on his laptop, like making sure that the numbers 555 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 3: line up and doing all the hard work. 556 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: But he actually seems pained at. 557 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: Times during the debate by the entire process, and it 558 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 3: doesn't resonate on television, which is again why I think 559 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: that radio TV analogy would be so interesting. There's a 560 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: reason why they say people have faces for radio, and 561 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 3: I hope we're exceptions at least on some level, but 562 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 3: maybe we're not. 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But I now am convinced that 613 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 3: the only way Biden goes out short of a major 614 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: health issue is stepping down right in advance of the 615 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 3: Democrat convention and allowing all of the delegates to select 616 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 3: the nominee. 617 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: Then yeah, I mean I think it's I think it's 618 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: still gonna be Biden. I STI I think that they've 619 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: they if they had a better option, they would have 620 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: exercised it. And that's really that's really what this all 621 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: ultimately comes down to. 622 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 3: What does it say that, whether you like Trump or not, 623 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: Republicans are challenging him and if he is the nominee, 624 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 3: he's going to emerge and have beaten again a fairly 625 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: talented field of nominees by persuading people that he's the 626 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 3: accurate nominee and justifiable nominee, whereas Democrats are not in 627 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 3: any way, I don't think convinced that Biden could ever 628 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: win a nominating contest. Hence they refuse to even allow 629 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 3: him to be challenged by and large other than whatever 630 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 3: his name is, Dean Phillips from Minnesota, who is the 631 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 3: only sitting Democrat I know RFK Junior ran against him, 632 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: and I know Mary Ann Williamson, But in terms of 633 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 3: somebody that actually holds office, they cleared the deck for 634 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 3: Biden completely. 635 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: And when was the last time a Democrat was in 636 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: office who didn't run for a second you'd have to. 637 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: Go way back. 638 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 3: I think it'd be Lended Johnson, right, who announced he 639 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: wouldn't run for a second term back in sixty eight. 640 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm just saying, I mean that you're you're 641 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: talking about what so call it seventy fifty years, right, 642 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: basically fifty years. 643 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 2: So it's a very rare thing. 644 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: And this is what I've used as my guiding star, 645 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: if you will, on this all along. The power of 646 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: the incumbency and name recognition is something that in our 647 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: modern political political landscape is very hard for anyone to 648 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: willingly abandon. And that's why I think they try to 649 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: take this as far as they can and have Biden 650 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: as the nominee, with the idea that you know, they 651 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: may start to say out loud, but the same way 652 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: that some Democrats are saying out loud, now we should 653 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: replace Biden. What it may turn into is them saying, okay, guys, 654 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: everyone vote for Biden because. 655 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: Our country is literally at stake. 656 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: Which that's how they sound when they say that, Yes, 657 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: it may turn into okay, vote for Biden because our 658 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: country's at stake, and Kamala is there if need be 659 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: to take over, and maybe she takes over at the midterm. 660 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: You know, they may start to sort of say this 661 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: a little bit out loud, so that Democrats and some 662 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: independence may be more comfortable with Okay, this is why 663 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: we have a vice president. Sure he's too old, but 664 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: there's somebody ready to go. 665 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 2: Now. 666 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: She's not a compelling choice, but I think that defrays 667 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: some of the biggest negatives in some people's minds for Biden, 668 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: which our age and cognition. When we come back from 669 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: Christmas break and it's after July, after January one, to me, 670 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: the craziest thing is not that we're going to have 671 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: the Iowa caucus on January fifteenth, and then I believe 672 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: the New Hampshire primary on January twenty eighth. It's that 673 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 1: when everybody gets back from their winter breaks and Christmas 674 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: in the New year's and you're sitting back at your 675 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: desk right now, Buck, we are scheduled to have a 676 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: former president of the United States on trial in Washington, 677 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: d C. 678 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: On March fourth. 679 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 3: That will be eight weeks after the first of the year. 680 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 3: Basically when everybody gets back in their seats, And that's 681 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 3: the thing that to me is still under discussed about 682 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 3: all of this. And it's why I use the analogy. 683 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 3: This is like an engagement that somebody got into thinking 684 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 3: that it was going to forestall the inevitable. But then 685 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 3: it's really close to your the invitations have gone out, 686 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 3: it's really close to your wedding day. Are we really 687 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: starting this trial on March fourth? I mean, that's the 688 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 3: part to me that is still really difficult to even 689 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 3: think about, because the holidays are going to happen fast, 690 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 3: and then boom, it's Jack Smith versus Donald Trump in 691 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 3: the Chuckkin courtroom and it's gonna happen, and it's going 692 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 3: to happen really soon. And that's what I can't get 693 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 3: past as I sit here and think about where we're headed. 694 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 6: Slade, Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.