Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hi, what's your name?
Speaker 2: To get the jez jezz?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 1: Jezz?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I stood? What are you up to?
Speaker 1: Not much? Are you calling from Australia?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, cool? Yeah, I mean Australia. It's not very
Speaker 2: sunny and hot out writing.
Speaker 1: Do you guys have a lot of civil rights in Australia?
Speaker 2: Civil rights? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like, cause I don't know, like I keep all right,
Speaker 1: So I've been thinking a lot about America, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, America, we're like, well, like we get like
Speaker 1: our whole thing is like we have a lot of
Speaker 1: freedom right, But I'm like, there are a lot of
Speaker 1: places that kind of have that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did have.
Speaker 2: Protected I don't know the state. Sorry, h We do
Speaker 2: have rights, but they're not constitutionally protected like they are
Speaker 2: in the US. For example, hate speech laws that have
Speaker 2: just been created, like they sort of take away the
Speaker 2: right to free speech from certain groups.
Speaker 1: Interesting, there was a guy getting arrested here. I know, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know a lot of bad shit's
Speaker 1: going on in America right now. But I was like,
Speaker 1: there's this guy. This guy got arrested outside of my
Speaker 1: apartment like a little bit down the street and Uh,
Speaker 1: this guy's getting arrested, and this other guy was like
Speaker 1: went up to the cop and started screaming at him
Speaker 1: and went like, go, suck a fucking dick, Suck a
Speaker 1: fucking dick, you, suck a dick, Suck a fucking dick.
Speaker 1: Fuck you, suck a fucking dick. Fuck you. And I
Speaker 1: was like there and I was like and I was
Speaker 1: like I watched that. I was like, that is kind
Speaker 1: of awesome. I'm like, that is America working as it
Speaker 1: was intended to, because there's so many places in the
Speaker 1: world where if you did that to like a police officer,
Speaker 1: you would die.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: In Australia, you get like trying to set really well yeah,
Speaker 2: like it couldn't. It's so like you're impeding the process
Speaker 2: of law enforcement. I guess, Well, he wasn't.
Speaker 1: Okay, he wasn't like getting up in his face about it,
Speaker 1: but he was like he was standing like he's standing,
Speaker 1: you know, a respectful enough distance away, but still.
Speaker 2: Yelling that oh and just tackling in. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can you guess So if that happened in Australia, would
Speaker 1: that guy get arrested?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I would well, dependently context like, but yeah, if they
Speaker 2: get going for like suit like a super long time,
Speaker 2: they'll get screwed, Like they will get arrested and like
Speaker 2: sty'll have some ship thrown at them for no reason.
Speaker 2: It's like it's a pretty like and in Australia as well,
Speaker 2: like it's not very well known, but like judges at
Speaker 2: the courts will try and make examples out of people
Speaker 2: because of like certain crimes that they're trying to reduce.
Speaker 2: I'm like a crazy story about that happening to my brother.
Speaker 2: Oh really yeah, like strapping his nuts. So my brother
Speaker 2: was in a situation where some people were trying to
Speaker 2: like murder him, right, Oh my god. And yeah, so
Speaker 2: they're like they had him like tied up, They're like
Speaker 2: injected him with some sort of thing that made him
Speaker 2: pass out, and he like woke up and during like
Speaker 2: trying to escape, he killed this guy.
Speaker 1: Right wait, so wait, so this so your brother, someone
Speaker 1: was trying to murder your brother, and then your brother escaped,
Speaker 1: and then while escaping he had to like he killed someone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was in like a car and he
Speaker 2: was like locked inside it with these guys. Wow, and
Speaker 2: there was a convenient like yeah a knife in the
Speaker 2: back and yeah kind of kind of murphed this guy
Speaker 2: whoa Yeah, but at the time in Australia there was
Speaker 2: this massive problem with like kids bringing knives to school
Speaker 2: and just like a massive rising knife crime. So instead
Speaker 2: of and you have like the self defense aspect coming
Speaker 2: into play for him, as like his wife was threatened,
Speaker 2: he's had the whole book thrown out him. You go,
Speaker 2: I think like thirty years or something like that, considerations
Speaker 2: your self deferse Wow, yeah, man, yeah, I'll be like
Speaker 2: fifty five when he gets.
Speaker 3: Out, I think.
Speaker 1: Damn. So he's in right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you'll be in prison for another twenty three years.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, how how old was he when that happened.
Speaker 2: I think he was like like early twenties, like twenty
Speaker 2: to twenty three.
Speaker 1: Dude, jeezus crazy sool that's super fuck. Do you visit him?
Speaker 2: Oh No, I don't. I kind of set contact with
Speaker 2: him because I was in a job where I wasn't
Speaker 2: about to visit prison, and then I just sort of
Speaker 2: shout out of contact with him.
Speaker 1: Wait, you were in a job where you weren't allowed
Speaker 1: to visit prisons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in the military, so and like I
Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to go visit prisons while I was serving.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also have like a like a strange
Speaker 2: relationship with him, so it's kind of hard too.
Speaker 1: Why did you have a strange relationship with him?
Speaker 2: Oh, like like strange, Like it was very difficult.
Speaker 3: Because he was he wasn't like he wasn't the greatest.
Speaker 2: Role model, Like he was not not a bad egg,
Speaker 2: but he was up to no good and made it
Speaker 2: very hard for like me growing up because it was
Speaker 2: like a small area. Have we lived there, and yeah,
Speaker 2: made mama pretty hard.
Speaker 1: What was the I mean not like like oh okay,
Speaker 1: so he would go around cars in trouble and making
Speaker 1: a bad name for the family in a small area
Speaker 1: and then you're associated with him, so it's putting, it's
Speaker 1: making your life harder to kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, like because people would like Carnie was the
Speaker 2: same brush, I guess.
Speaker 3: You'd call it. Like they would be like, oh, that's
Speaker 3: like this guy's.
Speaker 2: Brother, even though I was like the completely opposite of
Speaker 2: like a normal dude doing normal things and like I'd
Speaker 2: get like pulled over and have my car like sirch
Speaker 2: like once a week and by the police. You're not
Speaker 2: like I've never been to the police station before. Wow, finally, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was pretty ridiculous. So you know, it's I should
Speaker 2: visit him, but I it's I don't like to. I
Speaker 2: guess going in prisons.
Speaker 4: Do I.
Speaker 1: Do you have siby other siblings besides him?
Speaker 2: Uh no, it's just me.
Speaker 1: And do your parents visit him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty frequently. And I like, look house sit for
Speaker 2: them while they're gone. I guess that's my contribution.
Speaker 1: You guys go visit you guys go visit my brother.
Speaker 1: I'll water the plants while you're gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watered the points, look after the dogs and all.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's that is definitely a better part of
Speaker 1: the gig for sure. That's a better end of the
Speaker 1: deal for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sometimes it's annoying, but because it's always on
Speaker 2: like a Saturday, not i'ld say there because you like,
Speaker 2: but my friends had to travel, like like it's a
Speaker 2: ten hour around trip to visit whoa really yeah, and
Speaker 2: it's like driving to there's no flight to that sort
Speaker 2: of area.
Speaker 1: What I mean, I don't want to. I don't want
Speaker 1: you to doc yourself. But like so he's wait, which
Speaker 1: city do you live?
Speaker 3: In.
Speaker 2: Uh I didn't like Canbra like they.
Speaker 1: No, I know camera, it's the fucking yeah, it's the capitol.
Speaker 1: I know Camebra. I'm hip.
Speaker 2: You got to come to sometime, saga, you got to
Speaker 2: come to camera sometimes comedy camera, like just come heat
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah I did. I did an Australia tour fucking
Speaker 1: almost three years ago. Now I didn't hit Canberra, but
Speaker 1: uh I had a good time.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: I like Australia, but yeah, I didn't hit Canberra. What
Speaker 1: are do you know what prisons are like in Australia,
Speaker 1: Like you know how okay, like you know how in
Speaker 1: fucking Denmark and stuff, like the prisons are super nice?
Speaker 1: Are they nice? There?
Speaker 4: Have you?
Speaker 1: Do you have any idea?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I say, like I I know from like my
Speaker 2: brother and I have a couple of like preendid and
Speaker 2: stuff that have been inside. And it's pretty fucked like
Speaker 2: there's a lot, like a lot of a lot of
Speaker 2: like drug use like different often which is like an
Speaker 2: opio to replacement therapy. Everyone's like on that, and it's
Speaker 2: it's like getting stuff in there, like it's pretty similar
Speaker 2: to it's not like people will go in there for
Speaker 2: like maybe tax fraud for like six months and they'll
Speaker 2: come out just like ten times worse than the first
Speaker 2: and they like entered prisondents. WHOA, it's not a it's
Speaker 2: not something that reforms to people. Since I want to
Speaker 2: say the length of I went in a length of time,
Speaker 2: so my docksity.
Speaker 3: But my brother was in.
Speaker 2: Prison before he's this now sentence. So he was in,
Speaker 2: he got out and he went back and people the
Speaker 2: reoffending rate in Australia is just nuts.
Speaker 1: Wait, so hold on, so your brother got out like
Speaker 1: fully out and then he just like committed another crime.
Speaker 1: What would happen?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was in for like this. I think
Speaker 2: he was like got a quiet with someone who was
Speaker 2: an assaulting and he was in for like a like
Speaker 2: a short spent of time like a team months, and
Speaker 2: then he was out and then he ended up like
Speaker 2: reascending and going back in.
Speaker 1: Oh like okay, so the so he's in right now
Speaker 1: for the knife thing, but he went to prison before that.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he went to prison before. For a second.
Speaker 1: Dude, why was who who the fuck was trying to
Speaker 1: kill your brother?
Speaker 2: Junkie say, it's like.
Speaker 1: Not like some you said, you said some junkie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was some junkies, and it was like they're
Speaker 2: all just like on my god, I think it is
Speaker 2: like nassive stuff. I don't know if the problem was
Speaker 2: that they were, and apparently it was because it was
Speaker 2: like over a girl. Fuck man, it was like the
Speaker 2: most crazy situation.
Speaker 1: You seem like go ahead, sorry, oh no, you you
Speaker 1: go uh you seem it suck. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's just because it's in the past or whatever, but
Speaker 1: you seem like you're you're at this point fairly like
Speaker 1: detached from your brother.
Speaker 2: It was very detached from my life in general. It's
Speaker 2: the same m hm, like I just you sort of
Speaker 2: got it. Just you like you can't create it, like
Speaker 2: you can't make it like always bad ship your identity.
Speaker 2: Otherwise it would just like each you inside, like each
Speaker 2: you up. Oh yeah, if you like stay like in
Speaker 2: like you like you still acknowledge that these things are,
Speaker 2: like you know, they're terrible things and they have profound
Speaker 2: impact on your life, but you can't like make that
Speaker 2: who you are. And it's like people like see you
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, this is the person that had
Speaker 2: this thing happened to them and that thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right totally.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. It can be seen as weakness, and then
Speaker 2: people who could dreap it was weak and then they,
Speaker 2: you know, they could take advantage of yours mm hmmmm
Speaker 2: hmm in that manner which I've experienced before.
Speaker 3: M hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that makes one hundred percent. Uh, that
Speaker 1: makes a hundred sent success. That makes one hundred percent
Speaker 1: sense that like, you don't want to be fucking defined
Speaker 1: by the bad ship that happens to you. But okay,
Speaker 1: they want to ask you this because you said, we
Speaker 1: talked about your brother a little bit. We just got
Speaker 1: on the subject kind of randomly. You said, you're feeling
Speaker 1: detached in general.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just from like like holding on to the past.
Speaker 1: I'd say, hmm, oh, okay, do you feel detached from
Speaker 1: the present.
Speaker 2: I'll live in the moment, but like the moment leaves
Speaker 2: me quite quickly, like the something bad happens, it won't
Speaker 2: be with me the next day.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: How much as like terrible course.
Speaker 3: But it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Don't let it like consume me. I try not to
Speaker 2: the least, but.
Speaker 1: I thought, I guess, uh, okay, so just you're not
Speaker 1: like depressed, You're just like living in the moment.
Speaker 2: Oh oh I am yeah, okay, sorry, definitely I didn't
Speaker 2: diagnose that. I don't take anything for medication wise.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: How old are you?
Speaker 2: M twenty five?
Speaker 1: Twenty five five? You're twenty five. Do you live with
Speaker 1: your parents?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I live by myself. Pretty pretty chill. I want to
Speaker 2: like a I was in the in the military. I
Speaker 2: broke my back and shit, the more fucked up.
Speaker 3: So its like.
Speaker 2: I have a pension just hang out fucking great, but
Speaker 2: not really it sucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So so.
Speaker 1: Okay, you were in the military and you broke your back.
Speaker 1: What happens?
Speaker 2: Oh, it was just like just during like doing like
Speaker 2: army ship. Just like I've had like an initial injury
Speaker 2: that it got worse and worse and then there's a
Speaker 2: point was like paralyzed for a little while. That one
Speaker 2: was fun m h And yeah, it gets to a
Speaker 2: point where they do it thing. It's like they medically
Speaker 2: discharging it. So they say you're like you're fucked up man,
Speaker 2: So you're like, how old on you have?
Speaker 1: How long do you have money for? Like do you
Speaker 1: do they just like pay you for for like the
Speaker 1: rest of your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the VA over there likes it's called
Speaker 2: d VA here like Department of Veterans are Fair and yeah,
Speaker 2: basically like it's not my plan to be like on
Speaker 2: it for the rest of my life because I like
Speaker 2: to study. But like I know people who have been
Speaker 2: on it for like thirty years, and a lot of
Speaker 2: them fucked up. But I think they're they are that
Speaker 2: way because they've like remained in like the mindset of
Speaker 2: what happened to them, of the discredit like what they've done.
Speaker 2: But it, as I was saying, like they never detached
Speaker 2: themselves from that life. So what you're saying, the laways
Speaker 2: have to be this this way because it becomes identity.
Speaker 2: I know a guy and he's fifty five ish, he's
Speaker 2: like fifty five and like he's that's only like twenty
Speaker 2: thirty years ago, like cynically but mentally, like no, he's
Speaker 2: still there.
Speaker 4: He like.
Speaker 2: Still like like he sees himself as above tea people
Speaker 2: due to the rank he had or under some people
Speaker 2: I say, had to hire one. And he acts like
Speaker 2: everything he does is in this sense. But because you
Speaker 2: never let it go, you've got severe PTSD, you're never
Speaker 2: in like an environment that.
Speaker 3: Have fostered growth MM hmmm.
Speaker 2: So I don't really hang out with people in a
Speaker 2: similar situation as me.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: We're just yeah, we're all like see like I've read
Speaker 2: it it's from time to sign with my friends, but
Speaker 2: I don't talk about how bad it was all the time.
Speaker 1: So I assume is this is this a conditional pension?
Speaker 1: Meaning can you if you start to work again or
Speaker 1: make an income or file anything on your taxes, does
Speaker 1: it go away?
Speaker 2: So yeah, partially, it's so there's like one organization that's
Speaker 2: like for life understood, like until you get a job
Speaker 2: that meets or exceeds the level of the job that
Speaker 2: you're doing, like in the military. So that's like if
Speaker 2: let's say you were like like an accountant in the army,
Speaker 2: for example, if you become an accountant in like the
Speaker 2: normal world, then you'll lose defension. But if you're in
Speaker 2: the infantry, there's like no job that compares to that,
Speaker 2: so you'll have it forever. And then there's another organization
Speaker 2: that like calculates like hours and it basically once you
Speaker 2: start working like over twenty hours a week, they just
Speaker 2: like cut that like h off of your pension.
Speaker 3: So it ends up being like.
Speaker 2: Like twenty five percent less fortunately for your whole pension
Speaker 2: because you've worked. But it's it kind of doesn't work
Speaker 2: out very well. There is like there's little there's very
Speaker 2: little incentive to work at nine to five for people
Speaker 2: in this edition because they earn more money not doing so.
Speaker 1: Yes, that bad. So let's talk about you. So you're
Speaker 1: uh you said, I have a pension, so I don't
Speaker 1: really have to do anything, which is awesome but also sucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, are you are you? Are you?
Speaker 2: Are?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 1: Can you walk?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I can, like like pretty much every moment of
Speaker 2: my life I've since I've been in pain. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: And like I went to like I rehab impatient facility.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a rehabit was a mental health thing.
Speaker 2: But because I was taking this like like a lethal
Speaker 2: amount of pain killers every day, and I got into
Speaker 2: something a bit better. And like the hand off is
Speaker 2: like I'm awakened, present in the day, but I'm in
Speaker 2: like a like an amount of pain, so I have
Speaker 2: to tolerate or I can just be like not it
Speaker 2: out in my mind all day. So I got off
Speaker 2: the painments and it's like a walk. I can't run,
Speaker 2: I can't stand for that long, I walk that far. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I have like lifting problems and ships.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's.
Speaker 2: Crazy like to be it's actually normal. But it's like
Speaker 2: people like twenty five shouldn't be that fucked up. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's pretty bad.
Speaker 1: Hmmm. So you said, uh, you said that staying on
Speaker 1: the pension is not your plan because you studied. So
Speaker 1: what's uh what's that future? It seems like you have
Speaker 1: a you have a lot of future aspirations all this notwithstanding,
Speaker 1: what do those look like?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I just want to like so like me and
Speaker 2: a friend of getting into like business issue, Like he's
Speaker 2: looking at opening back to retail. So it's like building
Speaker 2: up front and doing stuff because it's just like something
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: Kick ass. Wait, that'd be sick. Where what's the stock?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like probably likasto, that'd be awesome. It sounds terrible.
Speaker 2: So like we have there's like a like obviously like
Speaker 2: maybe I don't know about in America, but they're kind
Speaker 2: of in like a cost of living crisis here in
Speaker 2: Australia is what they say, but it's really a recession.
Speaker 2: It's probably the same in the States. It's like everything's
Speaker 2: too expensive.
Speaker 1: At the moment, Yes, happening in the States.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the last things people give up in these trying
Speaker 2: times is tobacco, our whole and drugs and like in
Speaker 2: it's coming. But like I don't know, people could buy
Speaker 2: wherever they go. They're going to buy it from somewhere.
Speaker 2: And if you to prove yourself, because I've watched during COVID,
Speaker 2: like like many people know their own businesses. If their
Speaker 2: businesses product was incompatible with the way like COVID changed
Speaker 2: the world and now we had to live in that time,
Speaker 2: they went under where it was like if it was
Speaker 2: a business that's sold let's say active, where the good
Speaker 2: people were all wearing that and going walking around their neighborhood,
Speaker 2: something they could do, that business would saw. But regardless
Speaker 2: of what happens in the world, everyone's going to keep drinking,
Speaker 2: shoking cigarettes. And it just means that your business doesn't
Speaker 2: have to collapse and you have to fear something coming.
Speaker 1: I don't find no, I don't I don't find no,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't find that inherently scummy at all.
Speaker 1: There's a billion people who who own liquor stores. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just I think I like you know, I think
Speaker 1: starting your own. Starting a business is cool. Plus you
Speaker 1: can give it like an old timey what's your what's
Speaker 1: your name? Jazz jazz?
Speaker 2: Well name's name like stuff of that Jay as well,
Speaker 2: so we're gonna call like Jay and Jas. It was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know those I like it.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I like it.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: A liquor store, tobacco store, fucking street club, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: It's fun.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, we should start a stream.
Speaker 1: Start a strip club. It's fun starting just it's fun.
Speaker 1: The idea. I don't care what's in the building. I
Speaker 1: don't care if you are. It's like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you could do a you could do a place where
Speaker 1: people go to euthanize their dogs. Whatever it is. It's like,
Speaker 1: whatever happens in the building, who cares. I'm saying that
Speaker 1: to have a building and then put your your like
Speaker 1: ohn name on it is cool. I think it's a
Speaker 1: good thing to do. That's fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't know, because he needs a reason
Speaker 2: to just get out of bed and keep going every day,
Speaker 2: and I need something like I don't I don't wait,
Speaker 2: I'm can'd be passionate about like someone else's business, and
Speaker 2: I don't want somebody yell at me on them like
Speaker 2: a boss or something.
Speaker 3: That's like the worst thing at all.
Speaker 2: And so you can be your own boss and it's
Speaker 2: any like any fuck ups you have on you that
Speaker 2: any success you have is yours. You should. I find
Speaker 2: it is really hard to get like being employed by someone.
Speaker 1: Where When will JJ's liquor be open for business? That's
Speaker 1: when I'll go to Canberra.
Speaker 2: Hopefully the next like six months, maybe both sponsor event
Speaker 2: we'll get sucked up.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right, listeners of this podcast.
Speaker 1: Six Okay, I'm dude. Six months from now, we're all
Speaker 1: gonna go to fucking Google Maps and go to Canberra
Speaker 1: and search for J J Jay and Jay's Liquors. All right, cool,
Speaker 1: all right, all right. Six months from now, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go on Google Map. Sixcess from now, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: on Google Maps. I'm gonna say a reminder of six months.
Speaker 1: Someone reminds me. I'm not gonna remember. Someone reminds me
Speaker 1: if if if anyone cares. Yeah, in six months from
Speaker 1: Saturday February seventh, twenty twenty six, I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: find Camber on my Google Map and search for J
Speaker 1: and j lickuors and if it's there, Oh fuck, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna fucking prank call you guys.
Speaker 2: Fuck. Yeah, No, that's good. Sometimes you need a little
Speaker 2: bit of a push.
Speaker 3: Putting in that. That's what I could get you thirsty.
Speaker 2: I should do something now?
Speaker 1: Yeah wait, were you not gonna do it?
Speaker 2: Were just is?
Speaker 3: It was this?
Speaker 1: Just no? No, I'll do it all right? Yeah you better.
Speaker 1: I want to st oh, I mean do it? What
Speaker 1: don't do it? Whenever you can get it? You know, well,
Speaker 1: all right seven months from now, I'll give you an
Speaker 1: extra month.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems just yes, like at the moment we're
Speaker 2: doing planning and stuff. It's just like finance thing like
Speaker 2: payouts to come into stuff like that.
Speaker 1: How much money do you need to open a liquor
Speaker 1: store in a suburb of Canberra?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well be like twenty thousand Astralian It was probably
Speaker 2: like like one hundred and twenty thousand US.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's not a crazy amount of money to
Speaker 1: like start a business.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not terrible. Like you've got to sort of
Speaker 2: strike gold, like you've got to find a place suitable
Speaker 2: and like all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a strike it's like it's a it's a
Speaker 1: heavy investment and a heavy risk, but it's not those
Speaker 1: aren't like they're like worse upstart courses for like starting ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can probably get a lot to do that. Are
Speaker 1: you gonna get a loan?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh no, I just paid for it right over.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, when you like broken, say it's something that
Speaker 2: not all out right, there'll be a bit bit of alone,
Speaker 2: but we'll try. Like we've got like fut savings and stuff.
Speaker 4: You do it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just who likes it?
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you, Jazz. I'm I actually do appreciate you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that you're continuing to like live your life
Speaker 1: like then like actually do it. It's pretty sweet.
Speaker 2: Thanks, man, appreciate that. Mm hm yeah. I've seen a
Speaker 2: lot of people not do that, and it's just who
Speaker 2: I don't want to be. I know what the hate
Speaker 2: on there, it's just you know, someone en.
Speaker 3: Up like that.
Speaker 1: Jazz, Yo, Is there anything else you want to say
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer about your life or
Speaker 1: about life itself? Before we go?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Just keep going. Yeah, thank yak.
Speaker 1: Bless you, Jazz, thank you for calling.
Speaker 2: Okay, bless you, Tay, take care man.
Speaker 3: You see like fight.
Speaker 1: All right, let me just make sure I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to Google Maps. Uh can burruh, Australia. All right, what
Speaker 1: a funny looking city. There's a big hole in the
Speaker 1: middle of it. No, it's not a hole, it's a parliament.
Speaker 1: Uh Canberra. Okay, I'm gonna search Jay and Jay. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a J and J pharmacy, Jane and J hare,
Speaker 1: J and J bagel search JJ liquor store. Oh what
Speaker 1: the fuck? What? Don't show me some shit in Lynnhurst,
Speaker 1: New Jersey. I'm in Canberra. I hate Google Maps. I
Speaker 1: hate my fucking life. Sorry, let's go back to k Nburah. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I shouldn't yell. Supposed to be a
Speaker 1: therapeutic show. Okay, how do I search? I want to
Speaker 1: search here. Okay, Jay and Jay liquor can there? Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a liquor Okay, there is no currently existing Jay
Speaker 1: and J liquor. There's a liquor Land warehouse. That's pretty.
Speaker 3: That's some.
Speaker 1: There's the National Museum of Australia. I don't know what
Speaker 1: accent that was. Sorry, there's liquor Land Canberra. All right,
Speaker 1: I don't I I'm here's what I'm realizing is that
Speaker 1: if I don't stop talking right now, I'm just going
Speaker 1: to wait J and J Spirit Shop. It's in New York.
Speaker 1: What the fuck?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna stop talking so that we can
Speaker 1: move on with this podcast instead of just listening to
Speaker 1: me use Apple Maps, Google maps, whatever, who cares? Who cares? Hello?
Speaker 4: Hi?
Speaker 1: Hi? What's your name?
Speaker 2: I'm Amy?
Speaker 1: Amy. Amy is the name of a famous fictional hedgehog
Speaker 1: who who is She's not really the love interest of
Speaker 1: Sonic the Hedgehog, because Sonic the Hedgehog is kind of
Speaker 1: an auful male. He's he's more or no, rather, he's
Speaker 1: a Sigma male. He's a little bit more obsessed with
Speaker 1: going fast and kind of achieving the mission. And Amy
Speaker 1: Sonic is Amy's love interest, and Amy is always trying
Speaker 1: to convince Sonic to marry him. But Sonic is just two.
Speaker 1: He's just truly a hedgehog on his Sigma grindset, and
Speaker 1: so Amy is constantly, constantly rebuffed. But she's a nice girl, Amy,
Speaker 1: you know she's I think when Sonic is finally ready
Speaker 1: to settle down and start a family, I mean he's
Speaker 1: only canonically, I think he's sixteen, so he's a little
Speaker 1: young to get married. But he's sixteen in human years,
Speaker 1: so in hedgehog years, he might actually be a ripe old.
Speaker 4: Hedgehog, right, right, but yeah, proceed not really?
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, so you know Amy. You know Amy Rose the.
Speaker 2: Hedgehog vaguely, but yes, I'm familiar.
Speaker 1: Well, it's okay. You don't need to because you are
Speaker 1: not a fictional character. You're a your own human being.
Speaker 1: You're a real person named Amy or fake named Amy.
Speaker 1: What's up, Amy? How's life?
Speaker 4: It's good? I just got home some more. My husband
Speaker 4: went to go play a one piece tournament. I'm not
Speaker 4: sure if you're familiar with that.
Speaker 1: I know the anime one piece, but I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: It's like, how's is it a game? How's it a tournament?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So they recently started two years ago, I think
Speaker 4: it was two years ago. They started their own like
Speaker 4: trading cards, kind of similar to Pokemon. And at first
Speaker 4: he was just kind of like hoarding cards. It was
Speaker 4: becoming a huge issue because he's getting so much money.
Speaker 4: But now because he has all this bulk, he's like, well,
Speaker 4: maybe I'll start playing it for fun. And now he
Speaker 4: does that, and I just kind of hang out till.
Speaker 2: He gets home.
Speaker 1: Do you have your own version of one piece card
Speaker 1: game tournaments? Like, what do you do when he's there?
Speaker 1: You just hang out?
Speaker 4: Well sometimes not really. I'm not as huge into it
Speaker 4: as he is, just because like mentally, I just don't
Speaker 4: really care for it. But I do love the anime.
Speaker 4: I'm a huge fan of it. I just I don't know,
Speaker 4: I just can't really get my mind around playing a
Speaker 4: card game sometimes. But no shame to that. Like he
Speaker 4: loves it, so I'm just there to support. But I
Speaker 4: just got home while he's doing that.
Speaker 1: It's funny, and I thought I was thinking about this
Speaker 1: today actually is in my own love quest, let's call it.
Speaker 1: I used to think that I needed somebody who was
Speaker 1: like perfectly aligned with me on all my interests, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like like I have a creative job.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe I want someone who also has a
Speaker 1: creative job, Like I like all these things. I want
Speaker 1: someone likes all these things. And I've had the realization
Speaker 1: today that, like, I'd like that, but it's not. It's
Speaker 1: not as much of a necessity to the success of
Speaker 1: a relationship as I think I always thought it would be.
Speaker 4: Right, No, yeah, And I get that because I mean,
Speaker 4: I mean he and I have been together for this
Speaker 4: year will be thirteen years, we've been married for five,
Speaker 4: and I mean, I feel like we do have a
Speaker 4: lot of things in common, but we're also just very different.
Speaker 3: But those are things.
Speaker 4: That I like, things that I appreciate.
Speaker 1: You know, how old are you?
Speaker 4: I am going to be thirty three and he is
Speaker 4: going to be thirty three as well. We're just six
Speaker 4: months apart.
Speaker 1: Twelve years, so you got together you were twenty one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, roughly, if not twenty, like closer to like the
Speaker 4: end of when I was nineteen ish.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: Well, after thirteen years, it's like you almost your individual
Speaker 1: development has been so deeply influenced by one another that
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 4: True, go ahead, No, no, I was just gonna say,
Speaker 4: even though, yes, like we've been together for so long,
Speaker 4: like we're each not like the same person we were
Speaker 4: when we first started dating, or at least I feel
Speaker 4: like I'm not the same person. I used to be
Speaker 4: a lot more like reserved and quiet, and now I'm
Speaker 4: a lot more outspoken. But at the same time, I
Speaker 4: feel like that's also been influencing him, because he's also
Speaker 4: very like out spoken and not afraid to like beak
Speaker 4: his mind. So it slowly made me kind of be
Speaker 4: that way. But it also influenced me to kind of
Speaker 4: reach for things that at first didn't really align with him,
Speaker 4: if that makes sense. But it was just more like
Speaker 4: my own goals his own goals. But we still meet
Speaker 4: in the middle, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: So, Amy, I must ask you, is there a particular
Speaker 1: reason why you called into the Gecko Show today?
Speaker 5: Over.
Speaker 4: I've been listening to you for about two three years roughly,
Speaker 4: maybe more on the two I was actually listening to
Speaker 4: you on the way home, and when I parked, I
Speaker 4: saw that you were going live. And I've actually emailed
Speaker 4: you before. I don't know if you'll remember, and I
Speaker 4: went by Amy then, so Amy is not my real name,
Speaker 4: but I had emailed you before regarding that I had
Speaker 4: like kind of a friendship breakup. I don't know if
Speaker 4: you remember or if that's ringing any bell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that rings a bell.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was sitting in a parking lot eating Wendy's and
Speaker 4: you were taking emails, So I had an email do
Speaker 4: you while I was eating Wendy's. But yeah, essentially I
Speaker 4: wanted to talk about my friendship breakup and how it
Speaker 4: happened in October literally a couple days before my birthday,
Speaker 4: and that's what made it really hurt. But we actually
Speaker 4: recently reconnected, but not necessarily to become friends again, if
Speaker 4: anything to kind of I don't know, clear some air,
Speaker 4: which I didn't really could. If anything, it kind of
Speaker 4: still we're still not friends, but we have more of
Speaker 4: an understanding of why we're no longer friends. If that
Speaker 4: makes any sense.
Speaker 1: It does make sense. But can I actually, you know,
Speaker 1: can I get with Can I give you my gut
Speaker 1: reaction about this? And I feel like it's, yeah, this
Speaker 1: my gut reaction is like, man, that's a lot of
Speaker 1: that's a lot of drama and emotion for somebody who's
Speaker 1: not in your life. You know what I'm saying right now.
Speaker 4: And that's totally fair.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I mean, if one thing, if it was like an
Speaker 1: ex that you spent a lot of time with or
Speaker 1: something and whatever. But I don't know, I remember were
Speaker 1: you like, was this like one of your best friends?
Speaker 1: This is like a really close person to you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were best friends since I want to say
Speaker 4: roughly twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, and we I feel like
Speaker 4: we had like a lot of things in common, Like
Speaker 4: we both have moms that are kind of our biggest haters,
Speaker 4: so we kind of would bond over that, and then
Speaker 4: we had a lot of music interests. We grew up
Speaker 4: very similarly, and gradually as we were getting older, we
Speaker 4: were just getting closer and closer. And in the last
Speaker 4: like three four years, I don't know, I felt like
Speaker 4: things fully started changing between us and we weren't relating
Speaker 4: to each other as much anymore, and as I recently
Speaker 4: found out after we talked, she was kind of building
Speaker 4: I don't know. She described it as almost like an
Speaker 4: animosity towards me in regards to feeling like I wasn't
Speaker 4: always as supportive of her. But then in turn, she said,
Speaker 4: you were actually very supportive of me and you were
Speaker 4: always there for me, and I just didn't see that
Speaker 4: at the time, which I don't know. It didn't make
Speaker 4: sense to me. I mean, it makes sense as she
Speaker 4: was saying it, but then I think of my own
Speaker 4: experience in our friendship and feeling like I did always
Speaker 4: try to show up and be there, and it speaked
Speaker 4: accommodating because for example, she doesn't drive like because she
Speaker 4: lives in like downtown of my area, so she doesn't
Speaker 4: really need to drive if she really had to. But
Speaker 4: I would live like more in the suburb area, so
Speaker 4: it was I would always be willing and happy to
Speaker 4: go out of my way to go see her and
Speaker 4: hang out do our stuff. And then she wanted to
Speaker 4: be like, oh, well you're always running me. I'm like
Speaker 4: one's coming out from farther.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you want me to do.
Speaker 4: Well, yes, I could plan better, but but this is
Speaker 4: I mean, this is I'm.
Speaker 1: Going to hammer back in what I would saying, but
Speaker 1: there's a lot of emotional energy and stuff for that.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you want to be friends with this person?
Speaker 4: I mean, just because of the fact that I felt
Speaker 4: like we went through so much together, I do like her. However,
Speaker 4: I told you that I don't feel like I could
Speaker 4: be her friend anymore because one, I feel like we're
Speaker 4: just both in different parts of our lives where it
Speaker 4: doesn't align as much or I felt like for her,
Speaker 4: she just has her own things going on, and it
Speaker 4: was just so much of a focus for her, where
Speaker 4: even if I felt I wanted to talk to her
Speaker 4: about things, she didn't really make herself available, So I
Speaker 4: told her, yes, I miss you, I miss what we had,
Speaker 4: but I don't know if we can continue being friends.
Speaker 4: And so I feel like it's just more. It hurts
Speaker 4: more knowing like what I lost or what I had
Speaker 4: lost even from before.
Speaker 1: Then to listen, brother, you're you're thirty three years old, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: at that point. Well it's like, dude, you know at
Speaker 1: this like you're thirty three years old, you're married, Do
Speaker 1: you have a kid? No, are you planning on having
Speaker 1: a kid?
Speaker 4: Hopefully hopefully about year's end, But you never really know.
Speaker 4: I do have a job. I do dog grooming.
Speaker 2: So I love my job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a job. You have a husband, you gotta. I
Speaker 1: just have a life, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 1: you're just older now you got a life. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like, bitch, but what are
Speaker 1: we doing, you know, with the whole Like, uh, it's
Speaker 1: like it's too it's too anymore. No, I mean it's
Speaker 1: too much. It's like, listen, if someone's doing something to
Speaker 1: piss you off, just tell them and it's fine. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm at an age where if someone's doing I'm at
Speaker 1: an age where if someone's doing something to piss me off,
Speaker 1: unless if they're in my immediate life, I don't bring
Speaker 1: it up. I don't care anymore because you know what,
Speaker 1: because you get like, you get older, and you just
Speaker 1: realize the time moves faster than you can hold it.
Speaker 1: And if you don't and if you don't pick the
Speaker 1: people and the things that are important to you, then
Speaker 1: you just get dragged in a bunch of meaningless whatever.
Speaker 1: And then you look at your life and you realize
Speaker 1: that your life is an amalgamation of things and people
Speaker 1: that you don't give a fuck about it. And so
Speaker 1: there's just at thirty, like it's one thing if you're
Speaker 1: like in high school literally or like college, but like
Speaker 1: at this point in your life, it's like homegirl, I
Speaker 1: can't be I can't be sending you break up emails
Speaker 1: back and forth. You know, I got I got a life,
Speaker 1: and so I hopefully so to you. I get the
Speaker 1: morning of it though, I understand, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just like that's a lot some people are a
Speaker 1: lot of emotional edgy. If someone's in your life and
Speaker 1: you want them to stay in your Like I have
Speaker 1: friends who I'm like, I'm gonna be friends with these
Speaker 1: people until I'm like eighty, but those a lot of
Speaker 1: those guys don't even like live where I live, a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys don't even see every day. So
Speaker 1: I those conversation, those conversations of like, oh this is
Speaker 1: my this is those like emotional conversations of like, oh
Speaker 1: these are my feelings and this is how I think
Speaker 1: you treated me, and this is I those are and
Speaker 1: like those are, this is how I want to communicate
Speaker 1: with it. Like that kind of shit is reserved to
Speaker 1: me for like people in my day to day life.
Speaker 1: People I'm working with, people I see every day, people
Speaker 1: I am romantically intertwined with, Like that's because all that
Speaker 1: shit just takes so much emotion, you know, it just
Speaker 1: takes so much emotional energy. So it's like I got
Speaker 1: to reserve that emotional energy for the people who are
Speaker 1: like in my life, not the people, not just like
Speaker 1: someone that I get lunch with once a month. Third
Speaker 1: but you know whatever, and it's okay, it's really not
Speaker 1: selfish to feel that way. Your time and who you
Speaker 1: spend it with are deeply, deeply, deeply precious, you know, right,
Speaker 1: And I.
Speaker 4: Mean I totally agree, because anyone I meet now, I
Speaker 4: guess in adulthood or whatever. Like I feel the same
Speaker 4: as how you explained it, like I don't like something,
Speaker 4: like I don't have to deal with it. And that's
Speaker 4: why I feel like I'm kind of why I was
Speaker 4: holding on to my friendship of hers for so long,
Speaker 4: just because I felt like it's that whole thing I
Speaker 4: had been invested so much or whatever, like I wanted
Speaker 4: to preserve what I could. But then it just came
Speaker 4: to a point that when we stopped being friends, I
Speaker 4: was like, you know what, I don't need. I don't
Speaker 4: need that. But it just was really sad to think
Speaker 4: about sometime because I would miss her or whatever. But
Speaker 4: but like you said, there's other things going on, and
Speaker 4: what is it, Because it's like one thing that I've
Speaker 4: listened to your podcast before that you've mentioned or and
Speaker 4: where you went to a lizard expo or something.
Speaker 1: I went to a lizard I went to a lizard
Speaker 1: zoo shout out the GET Gallery in Brooklyn, New York.
Speaker 4: Yes, so I listened to that, and I mean I've
Speaker 4: always considered like it's always all about perspective.
Speaker 3: And all that.
Speaker 4: And it was funny how you spoke with someone there
Speaker 4: and they said, like, oh, if I was a lizard,
Speaker 4: like I wouldn't have to worry about all these things,
Speaker 4: or because someone would take care of me, or someone
Speaker 4: would watch over me because I'm a lizard. And I
Speaker 4: started to think about it like, well, I mean, yes,
Speaker 4: someone could take care of you, but that's like assuming
Speaker 4: there's someone to take care of you, Like it's all
Speaker 4: a matter of chance, and as a person, it's all
Speaker 4: a matter of choice and perspective, like cause you get
Speaker 4: so many calls of people just going through, you know,
Speaker 4: their own shit and their own problems, and yet they
Speaker 4: overcome it, and I'm like, Okay, maybe my problems aren't
Speaker 4: necessarily that bad, or I can always look at it
Speaker 4: a different way, Like, for example, if I was having
Speaker 4: a bad day at work and I was like angry
Speaker 4: or whatever, like oh my manager gave me all these
Speaker 4: horrible dogs, or oh she like overbooked me or whatever,
Speaker 4: I'd have to slowly shift it to Okay, well, maybe
Speaker 4: I do have a lot on my plate today, but
Speaker 4: it's an opportunity you manage my time better, or maybe
Speaker 4: ask for help when I typically wouldn't, or stuff like that,
Speaker 4: you know, just justting the mentality.
Speaker 1: It's deeply fulfilling It's scary at first, and then when
Speaker 1: you really think about it, deeply fulfilling to realize that
Speaker 1: nobody cares about you or your problems at all, even
Speaker 1: people who like That's like, even people who love you
Speaker 1: don't really care about your problems because they have their
Speaker 1: own problems. They anyone care about what you do. But
Speaker 1: it's good. If everyone cared about everyone's problems, then we
Speaker 1: would all we would all suffocate, we'd all we'd all
Speaker 1: blow ourselves up. Yes, is there anything else you want
Speaker 1: to say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: No, not necessarily. I guess it's anything to just keep
Speaker 4: perspective and keep trying and maybe want to night Shaalan
Speaker 4: movie because that's what I've been binging lately. I watched
Speaker 4: Knock on the Cabin Knock at the Cabin yesterday with Bautista,
Speaker 4: and it was actually really good, really sad, but it
Speaker 4: was really good. You should watch it.
Speaker 1: Battista, Bautista, thank you very much for calling Amy.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Lyle, have a great day, Have a good night, Amy.
Speaker 2: Bye.
Speaker 1: Bautista. Let me google it. But Tisteta, Oh Dave Bautista, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's an actor and he was in knock at the Cabin.
Speaker 1: How's it end? I'm gonna read that. This is This
Speaker 1: is what I like to do. Is I like to
Speaker 1: read the very you guys want, I'm going to read
Speaker 1: the very end. Okay, if you haven't seen Knock at
Speaker 1: the Cabin, I don't like. I don't really watch movies.
Speaker 1: I watched one movie every three years, and it's usually
Speaker 1: really good. I watched Marty Supreme awesome. Uh, that's the
Speaker 1: one movie I've seen in the last five years. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read the very end of skip ahead fifteen
Speaker 1: seconds in the podcast if you don't want to hear.
Speaker 2: The end of.
Speaker 1: Knock at the Cabin.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: They drive off, making a stop at a crowded diner
Speaker 1: where they watch news reports confirming that the disasters have
Speaker 1: abruptly ended. You know what's crazy, I don't that doesn't
Speaker 1: give away I feel like that doesn't give away anything.
Speaker 1: I feel like that movie has not been spoiled for
Speaker 1: me because I don't know who they are. I don't
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I did that, But because I don't,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna. I'm gonna. Okay, let's I'm gonna spoil
Speaker 1: the end if the Game of Thrones. Sorry, I know
Speaker 1: you guys want to hear phone calls, but how does
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones end? I'm not gonna watch it? How
Speaker 1: long is it? I'm gonna save everyone time by spoiling
Speaker 1: the ending of Game of Thrones right now, if you're
Speaker 1: currently watching it, I'm about to spoil. Skip past where
Speaker 1: the ad break is because I'm gonna spoil the end
Speaker 1: of Game of Thrones. All right? The iron thrown and
Speaker 1: that's the series finale of Game of Thrones. How's it end?
Speaker 1: Fuck this? I don't want to watch this shit? How
Speaker 1: does this fucking shit end?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: John leads them to return to the lands beyond the
Speaker 1: Wall as the millennia long winter in that region begins
Speaker 1: to thaw. Who cares? I bet if I see, I
Speaker 1: would care about that if I had watched the whole
Speaker 1: I think that's the point of TV's You're supposed to
Speaker 1: slowly start caring about the characters afterwards. I mean, over time.
Speaker 1: But if you just go to the Wikipedia page of
Speaker 1: a TV show and then you read the last line,
Speaker 1: then you'll be like, I don't give a shit?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: All right? One more what the Sopranos. Fuck the Sopranos. Wait,
Speaker 1: I've already seen the ending of the Sopranos. He's just
Speaker 1: like he looks up. That's the ending of the Sopranos.
Speaker 1: Is he looks up?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: All right? Sorry? Hello, yo, get go? What's up? Brother?
Speaker 1: How you doing?
Speaker 3: No way? Good hour?
Speaker 1: How am I? I'm doing? Not too bad. I'm enjoying life.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not satisfied. I'm definitely not satisfied. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not satisfied. There's a lot more that I need
Speaker 1: to refine and do before I'm satisfied. And I'm stressed
Speaker 1: out about it because I don't have good enough systems
Speaker 1: in place for for me to feel truly peaceful and
Speaker 1: satisfied with myself. But I'm on the way there. I
Speaker 1: have full confidence. I'm on the way there. The problem
Speaker 1: is that I'm twenty eight, and.
Speaker 3: I live in.
Speaker 1: A universe that I've created at this point. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're young, when you're like when you're in college
Speaker 1: and high school, it's like, all right, I'll just wait
Speaker 1: until the next grade. But then once you graduate, you're like,
Speaker 1: you can't do that anymore. You just there's no next thing.
Speaker 1: There's no purgatory, there's just this is it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's great. I love it. I love I feel the
Speaker 1: most free at this age in my life. I feel
Speaker 1: very free. I feel I've also had at least three
Speaker 1: separate times where I thought there was nothing past this,
Speaker 1: like okay, like three separate times where I was like,
Speaker 1: I think everything's over. And now I'm not even talking
Speaker 1: about like my career whatever. I'm just talking about like life.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I've had three separate times where I'm like, I think
Speaker 1: that it's over, and then there's like a whole new
Speaker 1: life behind it. It's cool, it's interesting, and so I've
Speaker 1: learned that's happened to me enough. And also I see
Speaker 1: forty six year old guys in New York like walking
Speaker 1: around and like eating sandwiches, and I'm like, one day
Speaker 1: I'm going to be that guy, and that's like five
Speaker 1: lifetimes from now. So I feel good. I feel pretty confident.
Speaker 4: That's all.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm doing. How are you doing? What's going on?
Speaker 1: What made you want to call it my Gecko show?
Speaker 1: That's what I want to know.
Speaker 3: Well, we've talked before, and I've been wanting to give
Speaker 3: you an update. So I've been trying to call you
Speaker 3: but I never get through.
Speaker 1: Okay, what do we talk about?
Speaker 3: Uh? The I was on the podcast. The episode is
Speaker 3: OCD and Skateboarding, and we talked about out how I
Speaker 3: thought I had OCD and that I was like traveling
Speaker 3: and like teaching kids how to skate and show like that.
Speaker 1: Cool. Okay, you know it's funny. I'm gonna be so
Speaker 1: honest with you. I know I remember the name of
Speaker 1: that episode, but I can't remember a lot of what
Speaker 1: we talked about. So why don't you go ahead and
Speaker 1: tell me where you're at right now?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm at work, so if I got to.
Speaker 1: Go, I don't mean I don't mean physically figure it out,
Speaker 1: but like.
Speaker 3: Right now in life, yes, Well, I have yet to
Speaker 3: go to a psychiatrist. I've been to therapy again, which
Speaker 3: is great. And I have a girlfriend now and she
Speaker 3: has kind of like opened up my eyes about thinking
Speaker 3: about the world differently, and that has also helped me
Speaker 3: a lot. So we're kind of there. We're doing good
Speaker 3: deck some some bad parts, but you know, life.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's pretty good. What ways has your girlfriend helped
Speaker 1: you see things differently?
Speaker 3: She like one thing that really stuck with me when
Speaker 3: we first met, was like she told me that she
Speaker 3: doesn't think embarrassment is real, which at first I'm like,
Speaker 3: all right, I'm skeptical, but she was like, well, if
Speaker 3: you do like something embarrassing or like what you think
Speaker 3: is embarrassing, but you play it off like it's not,
Speaker 3: then nobody else will think it's embarrassing. And I kind
Speaker 3: of totally understand.
Speaker 1: That one hundred correct, you know, and I never thought
Speaker 1: of it that way. Yeah, well, I mean, how do
Speaker 1: you think, like that's how cool people operate is they
Speaker 1: just play everything off like it was meant like they meant.
Speaker 3: To do it exactly. Also, I've been playing kndoma a
Speaker 3: lot recently, which if I go to one of your shows,
Speaker 3: I'm bringing you a Kandama.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited for It's super sick that I don't know.
Speaker 3: I've just been kind of living. I'm also not satisfied
Speaker 3: with my life right now, and so I've just been
Speaker 3: like running around trying to figure myself out. But I'm
Speaker 3: really young, so I'm still trying to I'm trying not
Speaker 3: to rush things, but at the same time, I feel
Speaker 3: like I'm not where I'm supposed to be if that
Speaker 3: makes sense. Like I look at like I know, comparison
Speaker 3: is the thief of joy. Uh And I look at
Speaker 3: like kids that I went to high school with. I mean,
Speaker 3: some are doing bad, some are doing good, some are
Speaker 3: getting married. Because I'm I'm going to be twenty two
Speaker 3: this year, so I'm pretty young. But I just like,
Speaker 3: I work at a parts store right now, and I've
Speaker 3: been here for three years or so, and I kind
Speaker 3: of I'm kind of like, am I supposed to be here? Like?
Speaker 3: Am I supposed to be somewhere else in life?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like I don't feel like you said, like I don't
Speaker 3: feel satisfied like I'm here, but I don't feel like
Speaker 3: I'm happy, don't get me wrong, but I I feel
Speaker 3: like there should be more If that makes sense?
Speaker 1: You feel like there should be more? Well? What like
Speaker 1: I'm not what more? What more do you want there
Speaker 1: to be? Brother?
Speaker 3: See? And that And that's the thing is like I
Speaker 3: don't know, And I guess that's where I'm like, Shit,
Speaker 3: should I go to college? Should I quit my job
Speaker 3: and switch jobs? Should I? Like, I'm going to Colorado
Speaker 3: for my birthday? Uh? Here here soon? And I missed
Speaker 3: Colorado a lot. So I'm like, should I check that out?
Speaker 3: Like where I should go there? Like maybe move there?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Just how you're twenty two. Yeah, I will do all
Speaker 1: of it, man, Just do random stuff. Just do all
Speaker 1: of it, don't don't. You're freaking yourself out for no
Speaker 1: for no reason. Man, Just just just I didn't think.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but just just just just do something. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm putting like anything, you're you're a perfectly You're a
Speaker 1: you are a perfect human being. Yeah, you're perfect, You're perfect,
Speaker 1: You're not such anything. Just go do something, man, Okay, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: just because.
Speaker 3: Okay, So, like I I live in Iowa and all
Speaker 3: my family and friends are in Iowa and not really
Speaker 3: realizing that I'm pretty lucky to have like grandparents and
Speaker 3: a couple of great grandparents still at my age. So
Speaker 3: I'm very family oriented and I love my family a lot,
Speaker 3: and it's really hard for me to be like, all right,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say fuck it Moose States, or like I
Speaker 3: can't do anything till September because my lease isn't up
Speaker 3: until then. But I like I'm scared that I'm gonna
Speaker 3: like make my mom mad, or like upset that I'm
Speaker 3: leaving or.
Speaker 1: Stop stop. I you can't be upset that you're making
Speaker 1: your mom mad. What's your name again? Sully Sally Sally Sally,
Speaker 1: I know, Gek, I know Gik Sally Sally. I'm literally yelling,
Speaker 1: I'm pissing No, I guess I can hear you.
Speaker 2: Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: I'm yelling, yeah, I know, pissing off my neighbors. Dude,
Speaker 1: I watch TV so fucked dude. I'll watch TV like
Speaker 1: at what I think is a normal volume, and then
Speaker 1: I'll walk into like the my apartment hallway and I
Speaker 1: could hear the TV from like the elevator. Nobody has
Speaker 1: ever said anything to me, so I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a problem. But like everyone get like, there's at least
Speaker 1: ten other people that are trying to ignore this conversation
Speaker 1: right now. They can hear my version of it. They
Speaker 1: can't hear your They could hear me yell Sully Willson Sully,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill you. No, I'm not going to kill you,
Speaker 1: but Jesus christ Man, like, by the way, I get it,
Speaker 1: I know I by the way I have this. I
Speaker 1: want you to know I have the same thing, dude.
Speaker 1: Like I go home, Like I have the same thing, dude,
Speaker 1: Like I I recognize that, Like I've chosen to like
Speaker 1: leave my hometown and like live a life. I live,
Speaker 1: live my own life. I would never do it any
Speaker 1: other way. Like me, my sister, we we like that's
Speaker 1: what we decided to do with our lives and it
Speaker 1: was never an option to not do that. But I
Speaker 1: go home and I'm like, uh, my mom looks like
Speaker 1: rapidly older every time I see her in person. So
Speaker 1: does my dad. It's hard, it's a bummer. I call
Speaker 1: them frequently. I was on the phone with my mom.
Speaker 1: I was on the phone with my mom today and
Speaker 1: she told me a story about how I was almost
Speaker 1: never born. But that's her story. But I call them
Speaker 1: all the time, and I have like an adults relationship
Speaker 1: with them, and it's on First of all, it's on
Speaker 1: your mom to let you go have your own life,
Speaker 1: but it's on you too. At some point just decide
Speaker 1: that you need to have your own life. I get.
Speaker 1: I get it's a very American thing, and it is.
Speaker 1: It's a very American thing to go and have your
Speaker 1: own life. But you have it in you to want
Speaker 1: to have your own. Your mom's not forcing you to
Speaker 1: want to have your she's doing the opposite you. I
Speaker 1: feel within you that you want to have your own life,
Speaker 1: So like, go have your own life. Man Like, don't
Speaker 1: let your mom tell you to not.
Speaker 4: Do it.
Speaker 1: Go have your own life. It's good. You don't want
Speaker 1: to be like a kid forever. You want to have
Speaker 1: your own semblance of existence on this own world. And
Speaker 1: by the way, call your fucking mom once a week.
Speaker 1: Call your grandparents, call them, visit them.
Speaker 3: Oh I do all the time. I love them.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you do. That's great. Like, by the way,
Speaker 1: your family oriented. You want to meet you want to
Speaker 1: meet a woman, you want to meet, You want to
Speaker 1: have a wife, You want to have a girlfriend. You
Speaker 1: wanna do all that stuff. Yeah, in order to do that,
Speaker 1: you have to have your own life.
Speaker 3: You're right, you know.
Speaker 1: So you you want to You want to look back
Speaker 1: on your life and be proud of yourself, not even
Speaker 1: because whatever you made a bunch of money or you
Speaker 1: were successful or whatever, but because you interfaced with the
Speaker 1: planet and go, you know what, uh go, Actually, here's
Speaker 1: here's what you gotta do after this, bro. Go watch
Speaker 1: the beginning of Hercules. Oh god, dude, go watch the beginning.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so it makes me cry. I
Speaker 1: have often dreamed have a far off place. It's a
Speaker 1: great song. Go search up. Go on YouTube, search up. Fuck,
Speaker 1: what's the name of the song? What's the name of
Speaker 1: the song from Hercules where he leaves his parents and
Speaker 1: goes leaves, goes on adventure.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I haven't seen him forever.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, it's I can go the distance. Go search up.
Speaker 1: I can go the distance on YouTube. You can go
Speaker 1: to the distance. It's like you're like playing Pokemon and
Speaker 1: you know you're not leaving fucking Palette town, you know.
Speaker 3: Can we get can we get deep for a second?
Speaker 1: Can you want to do you want to spend sally?
Speaker 1: Do you want to spend this life catching the doofs
Speaker 1: in Palette Town? Or do you want to get yourself
Speaker 1: a fucking requaiser?
Speaker 3: I want to a requiz you.
Speaker 1: Want to requaiz it? Yes, we can get deep? What's up?
Speaker 3: Okay? I okay, I want to know your I've been
Speaker 3: really stuck on this for a while because it's on
Speaker 3: the topic of life, right, yeah, okay, Recently, I don't
Speaker 3: like talking about death and I know it's gonna happen,
Speaker 3: and when it's my time, it's my time. But like
Speaker 3: for me, it's really hard for me to fathom like
Speaker 3: what happens if that makes sense, like in my head,
Speaker 3: Like my family's not like religious, but like I believe
Speaker 3: that like a higher power. And so I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: like we go somewhere when we die. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, I'm also, well, there's nothing after, you know.
Speaker 3: It's like what people say, like, oh, do you remember
Speaker 3: when you were born? No, all right, it's the same shit,
Speaker 3: And like scares the fuck out of me. And I
Speaker 3: want to know what you think.
Speaker 1: Here's what I think the other day. Okay, you're twenty
Speaker 1: two and you're freaking out about this every day, dude.
Speaker 1: The other day I was at a I was a
Speaker 1: like a diner and there's a like eighty seven year
Speaker 1: old man next to me. He was eating soup, and
Speaker 1: his soup he didn't like his soup. So you know
Speaker 1: what he did?
Speaker 3: He ate it?
Speaker 1: No, no, he he asked the waiter. He was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I didn't like the soup, could you, like, could you
Speaker 1: remake it? He hasked the waiter to remake a soup.
Speaker 1: Do you know why? Do you know why this is relevant?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 1: Because that guy is eighty seven years old. He's being
Speaker 1: he's gonna get sent into oblivion any day now, Sully.
Speaker 1: Any day now, that eighty seven year old man is
Speaker 1: gonna get sent into ablivion. And he's over here pissed
Speaker 1: off because his soup is he's not pissed off. He
Speaker 1: wasn't pissed off. He wasn't pissed off. I don't want
Speaker 1: to characterize him. He's not grumpy old man, but he was.
Speaker 1: He wanted the soup, you know that way. He was assertive.
Speaker 1: He was not a grumpy old but he was nice
Speaker 1: to the waiter. But he just wanted to and you know,
Speaker 1: I saw nothing. But the point about this guy is
Speaker 1: he's just living his life. And that guy should be
Speaker 1: way more scared than you. You have a lifetime ahead
Speaker 1: of you before you need to worry about death. That
Speaker 1: guy could die that afternoon. That guy could be like,
Speaker 1: oh I don't like the soup. Aneurysm death. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not even thinking about it. He's thinking about his
Speaker 1: dumb ass life. He's thinking about exactly what's going on
Speaker 1: in his stupid, almost over life. And so that's what
Speaker 1: I think is the right thing to do until you're dead.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the right thing to do
Speaker 1: until you're dead. I've of course, I've talked about a
Speaker 1: lot on the podcast about like being afraid of death
Speaker 1: and asking the major questions of life and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: But I'm over that, man, I'm over that. I've decided personally,
Speaker 1: I think it's good to go through that. I think
Speaker 1: it's good to have your questioning and your thinking and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But just at a certain point, man,
Speaker 1: you got to join the living and you got to
Speaker 1: just like be in it. You got to have things
Speaker 1: that pull you into life, whether it's like responsibilities or people,
Speaker 1: or goals or novelty or drugs and alcohol or you know,
Speaker 1: whatever it is that is your thing. Just you got
Speaker 1: go join the living.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just I'm such a go go go person.
Speaker 3: So recently I've been trying to like live in the
Speaker 3: moment and just be like, all right, I'm here, I'm
Speaker 3: doing this, Like let's not think about the next thing,
Speaker 3: and like what my mom says is just be just
Speaker 3: be here, just be And I've been really trying to
Speaker 3: do that recently, especially like in the New Year. That
Speaker 3: was one of my like whatever New Year's resolutions or
Speaker 3: whatever is to just be and I'm doing our right,
Speaker 3: I'm doing decent. But it comes across my mind all
Speaker 3: the time. And then I try to not freak out.
Speaker 1: How old are you? How's your mom?
Speaker 3: It's fifty, I'm forty nine. Fifty.
Speaker 1: She's living her life, right, She's just being She's existing.
Speaker 1: She's not freaking out about death. She's not freaking out
Speaker 1: about being old. She's not grieving her twenties. She's fucking
Speaker 1: grocery shopping and walking around and watching TV.
Speaker 3: That's true. Seinfeld, Seinfeld Fire fire Show.
Speaker 1: Life is good, dude, life, life is good, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna get better. I really believe that. I'm excited. I'm
Speaker 1: excited to I was talking to my friends on the
Speaker 1: phone today and he was getting he was getting lunch
Speaker 1: with his aunt, and his aunt is like sixty sixty something,
Speaker 1: and she was like stuffing She's like frantically stuffing lettuce
Speaker 1: in her face and like kind of she like eating
Speaker 1: really grossly, like just being like, oh yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: make sure we get off on that and just like
Speaker 1: eating really gross and and it was like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: that's good, because it's like one day I'll be one
Speaker 1: day will be like sixty something, will be much closer
Speaker 1: to death than we are now, and we're not gonna
Speaker 1: be worked out. We're not gonna be freaking out about
Speaker 1: we gonna be like eating food really grossly and talking
Speaker 1: about some fucking thing that doesn't matter. We're gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: All those people are gonna be dead that we're talking
Speaker 1: about right now, and it's gonna be our turn to
Speaker 1: ignore our own deaths and we'll be fine. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be fine. It promise you. It's we're designed to uh
Speaker 1: go away. Uh. But in the meantime, and this is
Speaker 1: why you need to leave your fucking palette town is
Speaker 1: because in the meantime, you're uh you want to look
Speaker 1: a live a life that you're proud of, right and
Speaker 1: you want to have when you're older. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: have your family oriented, you probably want to have kids
Speaker 1: one day. When you're older, you're gonna want to uh
Speaker 1: uh still do all the things that you want to
Speaker 1: do now, and you'll figure out a way to do them.
Speaker 1: But when you're older, you're gonna want to have a
Speaker 1: life that you can talk about to your children. You're
Speaker 1: gonna want to have life experience so you can help
Speaker 1: your kids go through their life. And you know you
Speaker 1: want like, like, just live your life, dude, Like you're
Speaker 1: you're sitting here, you're freaking out about death when you're
Speaker 1: not even living your life. You know, so, and I
Speaker 1: and I know, I know it's hard where I know
Speaker 1: money is tight in this economy, and and and it's
Speaker 1: a uh, it's hard. It's not the easy path to
Speaker 1: go and live your life and try to do a thing.
Speaker 1: It's easier to just whatever. And again it's a very
Speaker 1: American thing, I think, to go out on your own.
Speaker 1: But if it's what you want to try, then at
Speaker 1: least try it. That's all. That's my rant to you, Sully.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm sick of hearing my own voice, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let you go.
Speaker 3: No, you're good.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Uh? Love yourself? Uh and be kind, thank you, silly,
Speaker 3: good luck man, thank you gek.
Speaker 1: Yeah that Sully. I like Sully.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 1: So good guy. I went on a bit of a rant,
Speaker 1: but it's okay. I kinda I actually like going on rants?
Speaker 1: Actually was I lied? No, nobody hosts. Nobody who hosts
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