1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hi, what's your name? 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: To get the jez jezz? 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 3: What's up? 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Jezz? 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 4: No? 6 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: I stood? What are you up to? 7 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: Not much? Are you calling from Australia? 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, cool? Yeah, I mean Australia. It's not very 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: sunny and hot out writing. 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Do you guys have a lot of civil rights in Australia? 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: Civil rights? Yeah? 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: Like, cause I don't know, like I keep all right, 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: So I've been thinking a lot about America, and I'm like, 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, America, we're like, well, like we get like 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: our whole thing is like we have a lot of 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: freedom right, But I'm like, there are a lot of 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: places that kind of have that. 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, we did have. 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: Protected I don't know the state. Sorry, h We do 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: have rights, but they're not constitutionally protected like they are 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: in the US. For example, hate speech laws that have 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: just been created, like they sort of take away the 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: right to free speech from certain groups. 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: Interesting, there was a guy getting arrested here. I know, man, 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I know a lot of bad shit's 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: going on in America right now. But I was like, 27 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: there's this guy. This guy got arrested outside of my 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: apartment like a little bit down the street and Uh, 29 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: this guy's getting arrested, and this other guy was like 30 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: went up to the cop and started screaming at him 31 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: and went like, go, suck a fucking dick, Suck a 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: fucking dick, you, suck a dick, Suck a fucking dick. 33 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: Fuck you, suck a fucking dick. Fuck you. And I 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: was like there and I was like and I was 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: like I watched that. I was like, that is kind 36 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: of awesome. I'm like, that is America working as it 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: was intended to, because there's so many places in the 38 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: world where if you did that to like a police officer, 39 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: you would die. 40 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 41 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: In Australia, you get like trying to set really well yeah, 42 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 2: like it couldn't. It's so like you're impeding the process 43 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: of law enforcement. I guess, Well, he wasn't. 44 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: Okay, he wasn't like getting up in his face about it, 45 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: but he was like he was standing like he's standing, 46 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, a respectful enough distance away, but still. 47 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: Yelling that oh and just tackling in. Yeah. 48 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: Can you guess So if that happened in Australia, would 49 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: that guy get arrested? 50 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 51 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: I would well, dependently context like, but yeah, if they 52 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: get going for like suit like a super long time, 53 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: they'll get screwed, Like they will get arrested and like 54 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: sty'll have some ship thrown at them for no reason. 55 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: It's like it's a pretty like and in Australia as well, 56 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: like it's not very well known, but like judges at 57 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: the courts will try and make examples out of people 58 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: because of like certain crimes that they're trying to reduce. 59 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: I'm like a crazy story about that happening to my brother. 60 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: Oh really yeah, like strapping his nuts. So my brother 61 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: was in a situation where some people were trying to 62 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: like murder him, right, Oh my god. And yeah, so 63 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: they're like they had him like tied up, They're like 64 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: injected him with some sort of thing that made him 65 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: pass out, and he like woke up and during like 66 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: trying to escape, he killed this guy. 67 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: Right wait, so wait, so this so your brother, someone 68 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: was trying to murder your brother, and then your brother escaped, 69 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: and then while escaping he had to like he killed someone. 70 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was in like a car and he 71 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: was like locked inside it with these guys. Wow, and 72 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: there was a convenient like yeah a knife in the 73 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: back and yeah kind of kind of murphed this guy 74 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: whoa Yeah, but at the time in Australia there was 75 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: this massive problem with like kids bringing knives to school 76 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: and just like a massive rising knife crime. So instead 77 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: of and you have like the self defense aspect coming 78 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: into play for him, as like his wife was threatened, 79 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: he's had the whole book thrown out him. You go, 80 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: I think like thirty years or something like that, considerations 81 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: your self deferse Wow, yeah, man, yeah, I'll be like 82 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: fifty five when he gets. 83 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: Out, I think. 84 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: Damn. So he's in right now. 85 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you'll be in prison for another twenty three years. 86 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: I think. 87 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, how how old was he when that happened. 88 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: I think he was like like early twenties, like twenty 89 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: to twenty three. 90 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: Dude, jeezus crazy sool that's super fuck. Do you visit him? 91 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: Oh No, I don't. I kind of set contact with 92 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: him because I was in a job where I wasn't 93 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: about to visit prison, and then I just sort of 94 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: shout out of contact with him. 95 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: Wait, you were in a job where you weren't allowed 96 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: to visit prisons. 97 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in the military, so and like I 98 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to go visit prisons while I was serving. 99 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: Interesting. 100 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also have like a like a strange 101 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: relationship with him, so it's kind of hard too. 102 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: Why did you have a strange relationship with him? 103 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: Oh, like like strange, Like it was very difficult. 104 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: Because he was he wasn't like he wasn't the greatest. 105 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: Role model, Like he was not not a bad egg, 106 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: but he was up to no good and made it 107 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: very hard for like me growing up because it was 108 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: like a small area. Have we lived there, and yeah, 109 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: made mama pretty hard. 110 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: What was the I mean not like like oh okay, 111 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: so he would go around cars in trouble and making 112 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: a bad name for the family in a small area 113 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: and then you're associated with him, so it's putting, it's 114 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: making your life harder to kind of thing. 115 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, like because people would like Carnie was the 116 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: same brush, I guess. 117 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: You'd call it. Like they would be like, oh, that's 118 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: like this guy's. 119 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: Brother, even though I was like the completely opposite of 120 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: like a normal dude doing normal things and like I'd 121 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: get like pulled over and have my car like sirch 122 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: like once a week and by the police. You're not 123 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: like I've never been to the police station before. Wow, finally, like, yeah, 124 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: it was pretty ridiculous. So you know, it's I should 125 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: visit him, but I it's I don't like to. I 126 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: guess going in prisons. 127 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 4: Do I. 128 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: Do you have siby other siblings besides him? 129 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: Uh no, it's just me. 130 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: And do your parents visit him? 131 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty frequently. And I like, look house sit for 132 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: them while they're gone. I guess that's my contribution. 133 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: You guys go visit you guys go visit my brother. 134 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 1: I'll water the plants while you're gone. 135 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I watered the points, look after the dogs and all. 136 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: That's great. 137 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's that is definitely a better part of 138 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: the gig for sure. That's a better end of the 139 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: deal for you. 140 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sometimes it's annoying, but because it's always on 141 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 2: like a Saturday, not i'ld say there because you like, 142 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: but my friends had to travel, like like it's a 143 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 2: ten hour around trip to visit whoa really yeah, and 144 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: it's like driving to there's no flight to that sort 145 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: of area. 146 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: What I mean, I don't want to. I don't want 147 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: you to doc yourself. But like so he's wait, which 148 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: city do you live? 149 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: In. 150 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: Uh I didn't like Canbra like they. 151 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: No, I know camera, it's the fucking yeah, it's the capitol. 152 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: I know Camebra. I'm hip. 153 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 2: You got to come to sometime, saga, you got to 154 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: come to camera sometimes comedy camera, like just come heat 155 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: for sure. 156 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: Uh yeah I did. I did an Australia tour fucking 157 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: almost three years ago. Now I didn't hit Canberra, but 158 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: uh I had a good time. 159 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 4: Man. 160 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: I like Australia, but yeah, I didn't hit Canberra. What 161 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: are do you know what prisons are like in Australia, 162 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: Like you know how okay, like you know how in 163 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: fucking Denmark and stuff, like the prisons are super nice? 164 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: Are they nice? There? 165 00:09:59,320 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: Have you? 166 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: Do you have any idea? 167 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: No? 168 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I say, like I I know from like my 169 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,599 Speaker 2: brother and I have a couple of like preendid and 170 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: stuff that have been inside. And it's pretty fucked like 171 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 2: there's a lot, like a lot of a lot of 172 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: like drug use like different often which is like an 173 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: opio to replacement therapy. Everyone's like on that, and it's 174 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: it's like getting stuff in there, like it's pretty similar 175 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: to it's not like people will go in there for 176 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: like maybe tax fraud for like six months and they'll 177 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: come out just like ten times worse than the first 178 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: and they like entered prisondents. WHOA, it's not a it's 179 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: not something that reforms to people. Since I want to 180 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: say the length of I went in a length of time, 181 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: so my docksity. 182 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: But my brother was in. 183 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: Prison before he's this now sentence. So he was in, 184 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: he got out and he went back and people the 185 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: reoffending rate in Australia is just nuts. 186 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: Wait, so hold on, so your brother got out like 187 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: fully out and then he just like committed another crime. 188 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: What would happen? 189 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was in for like this. I think 190 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 2: he was like got a quiet with someone who was 191 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: an assaulting and he was in for like a like 192 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: a short spent of time like a team months, and 193 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: then he was out and then he ended up like 194 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 2: reascending and going back in. 195 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: Oh like okay, so the so he's in right now 196 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: for the knife thing, but he went to prison before that. 197 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he went to prison before. For a second. 198 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: Dude, why was who who the fuck was trying to 199 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: kill your brother? 200 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: Junkie say, it's like. 201 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: Not like some you said, you said some junkie. 202 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was some junkies, and it was like they're 203 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 2: all just like on my god, I think it is 204 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: like nassive stuff. I don't know if the problem was 205 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: that they were, and apparently it was because it was 206 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: like over a girl. Fuck man, it was like the 207 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: most crazy situation. 208 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: You seem like go ahead, sorry, oh no, you you 209 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: go uh you seem it suck. I don't know if 210 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: it's just because it's in the past or whatever, but 211 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: you seem like you're you're at this point fairly like 212 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: detached from your brother. 213 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: It was very detached from my life in general. It's 214 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: the same m hm, like I just you sort of 215 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: got it. Just you like you can't create it, like 216 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: you can't make it like always bad ship your identity. 217 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: Otherwise it would just like each you inside, like each 218 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: you up. Oh yeah, if you like stay like in 219 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: like you like you still acknowledge that these things are, 220 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: like you know, they're terrible things and they have profound 221 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: impact on your life, but you can't like make that 222 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 2: who you are. And it's like people like see you 223 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, this is the person that had 224 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 2: this thing happened to them and that thing. 225 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, right totally. 226 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. It can be seen as weakness, and then 227 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: people who could dreap it was weak and then they, 228 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: you know, they could take advantage of yours mm hmmmm 229 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: hmm in that manner which I've experienced before. 230 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: M hmm. 231 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that makes one hundred percent. Uh, that 232 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: makes a hundred sent success. That makes one hundred percent 233 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: sense that like, you don't want to be fucking defined 234 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: by the bad ship that happens to you. But okay, 235 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: they want to ask you this because you said, we 236 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: talked about your brother a little bit. We just got 237 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: on the subject kind of randomly. You said, you're feeling 238 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: detached in general. 239 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, just from like like holding on to the past. 240 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: I'd say, hmm, oh, okay, do you feel detached from 241 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: the present. 242 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: I'll live in the moment, but like the moment leaves 243 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: me quite quickly, like the something bad happens, it won't 244 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: be with me the next day. 245 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. 246 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: How much as like terrible course. 247 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: But it doesn't. 248 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: Don't let it like consume me. I try not to 249 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: the least, but. 250 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: I thought, I guess, uh, okay, so just you're not 251 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: like depressed, You're just like living in the moment. 252 00:14:55,120 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: Oh oh I am yeah, okay, sorry, definitely I didn't 253 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: diagnose that. I don't take anything for medication wise. 254 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 255 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: How old are you? 256 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: M twenty five? 257 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: Twenty five five? You're twenty five. Do you live with 258 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: your parents? 259 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 4: No? 260 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: I live by myself. Pretty pretty chill. I want to 261 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: like a I was in the in the military. I 262 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: broke my back and shit, the more fucked up. 263 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: So its like. 264 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: I have a pension just hang out fucking great, but 265 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: not really it sucks. 266 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 267 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 4: So so. 268 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: Okay, you were in the military and you broke your back. 269 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: What happens? 270 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: Oh, it was just like just during like doing like 271 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: army ship. Just like I've had like an initial injury 272 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: that it got worse and worse and then there's a 273 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: point was like paralyzed for a little while. That one 274 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: was fun m h And yeah, it gets to a 275 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: point where they do it thing. It's like they medically 276 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: discharging it. So they say you're like you're fucked up man, 277 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: So you're like, how old on you have? 278 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: How long do you have money for? Like do you 279 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: do they just like pay you for for like the 280 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: rest of your life. 281 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the VA over there likes it's called 282 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: d VA here like Department of Veterans are Fair and yeah, 283 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: basically like it's not my plan to be like on 284 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: it for the rest of my life because I like 285 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: to study. But like I know people who have been 286 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: on it for like thirty years, and a lot of 287 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: them fucked up. But I think they're they are that 288 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: way because they've like remained in like the mindset of 289 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: what happened to them, of the discredit like what they've done. 290 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: But it, as I was saying, like they never detached 291 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 2: themselves from that life. So what you're saying, the laways 292 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: have to be this this way because it becomes identity. 293 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: I know a guy and he's fifty five ish, he's 294 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: like fifty five and like he's that's only like twenty 295 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: thirty years ago, like cynically but mentally, like no, he's 296 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: still there. 297 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 4: He like. 298 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: Still like like he sees himself as above tea people 299 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: due to the rank he had or under some people 300 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: I say, had to hire one. And he acts like 301 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 2: everything he does is in this sense. But because you 302 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: never let it go, you've got severe PTSD, you're never 303 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: in like an environment that. 304 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: Have fostered growth MM hmmm. 305 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: So I don't really hang out with people in a 306 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: similar situation as me. 307 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 308 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: We're just yeah, we're all like see like I've read 309 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: it it's from time to sign with my friends, but 310 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: I don't talk about how bad it was all the time. 311 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: So I assume is this is this a conditional pension? 312 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: Meaning can you if you start to work again or 313 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: make an income or file anything on your taxes, does 314 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: it go away? 315 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, partially, it's so there's like one organization that's 316 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: like for life understood, like until you get a job 317 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 2: that meets or exceeds the level of the job that 318 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: you're doing, like in the military. So that's like if 319 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: let's say you were like like an accountant in the army, 320 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: for example, if you become an accountant in like the 321 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: normal world, then you'll lose defension. But if you're in 322 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: the infantry, there's like no job that compares to that, 323 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: so you'll have it forever. And then there's another organization 324 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: that like calculates like hours and it basically once you 325 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: start working like over twenty hours a week, they just 326 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: like cut that like h off of your pension. 327 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: So it ends up being like. 328 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: Like twenty five percent less fortunately for your whole pension 329 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: because you've worked. But it's it kind of doesn't work 330 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: out very well. There is like there's little there's very 331 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: little incentive to work at nine to five for people 332 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: in this edition because they earn more money not doing so. 333 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: Yes, that bad. So let's talk about you. So you're 334 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: uh you said, I have a pension, so I don't 335 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: really have to do anything, which is awesome but also sucks. 336 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 337 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, are you are you? Are you? 338 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 2: Are? 339 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: You? 340 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: Can you walk? 341 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: Yeah? I can, like like pretty much every moment of 342 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: my life I've since I've been in pain. Mm hmmm. 343 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: And like I went to like I rehab impatient facility. 344 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: It wasn't like a rehabit was a mental health thing. 345 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 2: But because I was taking this like like a lethal 346 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: amount of pain killers every day, and I got into 347 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: something a bit better. And like the hand off is 348 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: like I'm awakened, present in the day, but I'm in 349 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: like a like an amount of pain, so I have 350 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: to tolerate or I can just be like not it 351 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: out in my mind all day. So I got off 352 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: the painments and it's like a walk. I can't run, 353 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: I can't stand for that long, I walk that far. Yeah, 354 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: I have like lifting problems and ships. 355 00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's. 356 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: Crazy like to be it's actually normal. But it's like 357 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 2: people like twenty five shouldn't be that fucked up. It's like, yeah, 358 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: it's pretty bad. 359 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: Hmmm. So you said, uh, you said that staying on 360 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: the pension is not your plan because you studied. So 361 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: what's uh what's that future? It seems like you have 362 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: a you have a lot of future aspirations all this notwithstanding, 363 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: what do those look like? 364 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? I just want to like so like me and 365 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: a friend of getting into like business issue, Like he's 366 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 2: looking at opening back to retail. So it's like building 367 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 2: up front and doing stuff because it's just like something 368 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: to do. 369 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: Kick ass. Wait, that'd be sick. Where what's the stock? 370 00:22:54,800 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, like probably likasto, that'd be awesome. It sounds terrible. 371 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 2: So like we have there's like a like obviously like 372 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: maybe I don't know about in America, but they're kind 373 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: of in like a cost of living crisis here in 374 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: Australia is what they say, but it's really a recession. 375 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: It's probably the same in the States. It's like everything's 376 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: too expensive. 377 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: At the moment, Yes, happening in the States. 378 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, the last things people give up in these trying 379 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: times is tobacco, our whole and drugs and like in 380 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: it's coming. But like I don't know, people could buy 381 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: wherever they go. They're going to buy it from somewhere. 382 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 2: And if you to prove yourself, because I've watched during COVID, 383 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: like like many people know their own businesses. If their 384 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: businesses product was incompatible with the way like COVID changed 385 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: the world and now we had to live in that time, 386 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: they went under where it was like if it was 387 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: a business that's sold let's say active, where the good 388 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: people were all wearing that and going walking around their neighborhood, 389 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 2: something they could do, that business would saw. But regardless 390 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: of what happens in the world, everyone's going to keep drinking, 391 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: shoking cigarettes. And it just means that your business doesn't 392 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: have to collapse and you have to fear something coming. 393 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: I don't find no, I don't I don't find no, 394 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't find that inherently scummy at all. 395 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: There's a billion people who who own liquor stores. I mean, 396 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: I just I think I like you know, I think 397 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: starting your own. Starting a business is cool. Plus you 398 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: can give it like an old timey what's your what's 399 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: your name? Jazz jazz? 400 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: Well name's name like stuff of that Jay as well, 401 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: so we're gonna call like Jay and Jas. It was like, 402 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: I don't know those I like it. 403 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I like it. 404 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: I like it. 405 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: A liquor store, tobacco store, fucking street club, whatever it is. 406 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: It's fun. 407 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, we should start a stream. 408 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: Start a strip club. It's fun starting just it's fun. 409 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: The idea. I don't care what's in the building. I 410 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: don't care if you are. It's like, uh, you know, 411 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: you could do a you could do a place where 412 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: people go to euthanize their dogs. Whatever it is. It's like, 413 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: whatever happens in the building, who cares. I'm saying that 414 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: to have a building and then put your your like 415 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: ohn name on it is cool. I think it's a 416 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: good thing to do. That's fun. 417 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 418 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't know, because he needs a reason 419 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: to just get out of bed and keep going every day, 420 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: and I need something like I don't I don't wait, 421 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: I'm can'd be passionate about like someone else's business, and 422 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: I don't want somebody yell at me on them like 423 00:25:59,080 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: a boss or something. 424 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: That's like the worst thing at all. 425 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: And so you can be your own boss and it's 426 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 2: any like any fuck ups you have on you that 427 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: any success you have is yours. You should. I find 428 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 2: it is really hard to get like being employed by someone. 429 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: Where When will JJ's liquor be open for business? That's 430 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: when I'll go to Canberra. 431 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: Hopefully the next like six months, maybe both sponsor event 432 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: we'll get sucked up. 433 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right, listeners of this podcast. 434 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: Six Okay, I'm dude. Six months from now, we're all 435 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: gonna go to fucking Google Maps and go to Canberra 436 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: and search for J J Jay and Jay's Liquors. All right, cool, 437 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: all right, all right. Six months from now, I'm gonna 438 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: go on Google Map. Sixcess from now, I'm gonna go 439 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: on Google Maps. I'm gonna say a reminder of six months. 440 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: Someone reminds me. I'm not gonna remember. Someone reminds me 441 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: if if if anyone cares. Yeah, in six months from 442 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: Saturday February seventh, twenty twenty six, I'm gonna go to 443 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: find Camber on my Google Map and search for J 444 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: and j lickuors and if it's there, Oh fuck, I'm 445 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: gonna fucking prank call you guys. 446 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: Fuck. Yeah, No, that's good. Sometimes you need a little 447 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 2: bit of a push. 448 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 3: Putting in that. That's what I could get you thirsty. 449 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: I should do something now? 450 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: Yeah wait, were you not gonna do it? 451 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 2: Were just is? 452 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 3: It was this? 453 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: Just no? No, I'll do it all right? Yeah you better. 454 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: I want to st oh, I mean do it? What 455 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: don't do it? Whenever you can get it? You know, well, 456 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: all right seven months from now, I'll give you an 457 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: extra month. 458 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems just yes, like at the moment we're 459 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: doing planning and stuff. It's just like finance thing like 460 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 2: payouts to come into stuff like that. 461 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: How much money do you need to open a liquor 462 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: store in a suburb of Canberra? 463 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well be like twenty thousand Astralian It was probably 464 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 2: like like one hundred and twenty thousand US. 465 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's not a crazy amount of money to 466 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 1: like start a business. 467 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not terrible. Like you've got to sort of 468 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 2: strike gold, like you've got to find a place suitable 469 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: and like all of that stuff. 470 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a strike it's like it's a it's a 471 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: heavy investment and a heavy risk, but it's not those 472 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: aren't like they're like worse upstart courses for like starting ship. Yeah, 473 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: you can probably get a lot to do that. Are 474 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: you gonna get a loan? 475 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh no, I just paid for it right over. 476 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: Like yeah, when you like broken, say it's something that 477 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: not all out right, there'll be a bit bit of alone, 478 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: but we'll try. Like we've got like fut savings and stuff. 479 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 4: You do it? 480 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, just who likes it? 481 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm happy for you, Jazz. I'm I actually do appreciate you. 482 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate that you're continuing to like live your life 483 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: like then like actually do it. It's pretty sweet. 484 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: Thanks, man, appreciate that. Mm hm yeah. I've seen a 485 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: lot of people not do that, and it's just who 486 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to be. I know what the hate 487 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: on there, it's just you know, someone en. 488 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: Up like that. 489 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: Jazz, Yo, Is there anything else you want to say 490 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: to the people of the computer about your life or 491 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: about life itself? Before we go? 492 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? Just keep going. Yeah, thank yak. 493 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: Bless you, Jazz, thank you for calling. 494 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: Okay, bless you, Tay, take care man. 495 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: You see like fight. 496 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: All right, let me just make sure I'm gonna go 497 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: to Google Maps. Uh can burruh, Australia. All right, what 498 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: a funny looking city. There's a big hole in the 499 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: middle of it. No, it's not a hole, it's a parliament. 500 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: Uh Canberra. Okay, I'm gonna search Jay and Jay. Okay, 501 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: there's a J and J pharmacy, Jane and J hare, 502 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: J and J bagel search JJ liquor store. Oh what 503 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: the fuck? What? Don't show me some shit in Lynnhurst, 504 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: New Jersey. I'm in Canberra. I hate Google Maps. I 505 00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: hate my fucking life. Sorry, let's go back to k Nburah. Sorry, 506 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I shouldn't yell. Supposed to be a 507 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: therapeutic show. Okay, how do I search? I want to 508 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: search here. Okay, Jay and Jay liquor can there? Okay, 509 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: there's a liquor Okay, there is no currently existing Jay 510 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: and J liquor. There's a liquor Land warehouse. That's pretty. 511 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: That's some. 512 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: There's the National Museum of Australia. I don't know what 513 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: accent that was. Sorry, there's liquor Land Canberra. All right, 514 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: I don't I I'm here's what I'm realizing is that 515 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: if I don't stop talking right now, I'm just going 516 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: to wait J and J Spirit Shop. It's in New York. 517 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: What the fuck? 518 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: All right? 519 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna stop talking so that we can 520 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: move on with this podcast instead of just listening to 521 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: me use Apple Maps, Google maps, whatever, who cares? Who cares? Hello? 522 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 4: Hi? 523 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: Hi? What's your name? 524 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: I'm Amy? 525 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: Amy. Amy is the name of a famous fictional hedgehog 526 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: who who is She's not really the love interest of 527 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: Sonic the Hedgehog, because Sonic the Hedgehog is kind of 528 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: an auful male. He's he's more or no, rather, he's 529 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: a Sigma male. He's a little bit more obsessed with 530 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: going fast and kind of achieving the mission. And Amy 531 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: Sonic is Amy's love interest, and Amy is always trying 532 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: to convince Sonic to marry him. But Sonic is just two. 533 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: He's just truly a hedgehog on his Sigma grindset, and 534 00:32:54,200 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: so Amy is constantly, constantly rebuffed. But she's a nice girl, Amy, 535 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: you know she's I think when Sonic is finally ready 536 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: to settle down and start a family, I mean he's 537 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: only canonically, I think he's sixteen, so he's a little 538 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: young to get married. But he's sixteen in human years, 539 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: so in hedgehog years, he might actually be a ripe old. 540 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 4: Hedgehog, right, right, but yeah, proceed not really? 541 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, so you know Amy. You know Amy Rose the. 542 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: Hedgehog vaguely, but yes, I'm familiar. 543 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: Well, it's okay. You don't need to because you are 544 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: not a fictional character. You're a your own human being. 545 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: You're a real person named Amy or fake named Amy. 546 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: What's up, Amy? How's life? 547 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 4: It's good? I just got home some more. My husband 548 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 4: went to go play a one piece tournament. I'm not 549 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 4: sure if you're familiar with that. 550 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: I know the anime one piece, but I didn't know that. 551 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: It's like, how's is it a game? How's it a tournament? 552 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? So they recently started two years ago, I think 553 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 4: it was two years ago. They started their own like 554 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 4: trading cards, kind of similar to Pokemon. And at first 555 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 4: he was just kind of like hoarding cards. It was 556 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 4: becoming a huge issue because he's getting so much money. 557 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 4: But now because he has all this bulk, he's like, well, 558 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 4: maybe I'll start playing it for fun. And now he 559 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: does that, and I just kind of hang out till. 560 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: He gets home. 561 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: Do you have your own version of one piece card 562 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: game tournaments? Like, what do you do when he's there? 563 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: You just hang out? 564 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 4: Well sometimes not really. I'm not as huge into it 565 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 4: as he is, just because like mentally, I just don't 566 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: really care for it. But I do love the anime. 567 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 4: I'm a huge fan of it. I just I don't know, 568 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 4: I just can't really get my mind around playing a 569 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 4: card game sometimes. But no shame to that. Like he 570 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 4: loves it, so I'm just there to support. But I 571 00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 4: just got home while he's doing that. 572 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: It's funny, and I thought I was thinking about this 573 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: today actually is in my own love quest, let's call it. 574 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: I used to think that I needed somebody who was 575 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: like perfectly aligned with me on all my interests, you 576 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like like I have a creative job. 577 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: You know, maybe I want someone who also has a 578 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: creative job, Like I like all these things. I want 579 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: someone likes all these things. And I've had the realization 580 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: today that, like, I'd like that, but it's not. It's 581 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: not as much of a necessity to the success of 582 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: a relationship as I think I always thought it would be. 583 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 4: Right, No, yeah, And I get that because I mean, 584 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 4: I mean he and I have been together for this 585 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 4: year will be thirteen years, we've been married for five, 586 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 4: and I mean, I feel like we do have a 587 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 4: lot of things in common, but we're also just very different. 588 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: But those are things. 589 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 4: That I like, things that I appreciate. 590 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: You know, how old are you? 591 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 4: I am going to be thirty three and he is 592 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 4: going to be thirty three as well. We're just six 593 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 4: months apart. 594 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 1: Twelve years, so you got together you were twenty one. 595 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, roughly, if not twenty, like closer to like the 596 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 4: end of when I was nineteen ish. 597 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 2: Oh. 598 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: Well, after thirteen years, it's like you almost your individual 599 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: development has been so deeply influenced by one another that 600 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: it's like. 601 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 4: True, go ahead, No, no, I was just gonna say, 602 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 4: even though, yes, like we've been together for so long, 603 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 4: like we're each not like the same person we were 604 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 4: when we first started dating, or at least I feel 605 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 4: like I'm not the same person. I used to be 606 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 4: a lot more like reserved and quiet, and now I'm 607 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 4: a lot more outspoken. But at the same time, I 608 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 4: feel like that's also been influencing him, because he's also 609 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 4: very like out spoken and not afraid to like beak 610 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 4: his mind. So it slowly made me kind of be 611 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 4: that way. But it also influenced me to kind of 612 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 4: reach for things that at first didn't really align with him, 613 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 4: if that makes sense. But it was just more like 614 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 4: my own goals his own goals. But we still meet 615 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,959 Speaker 4: in the middle, if that makes sense. 616 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: So, Amy, I must ask you, is there a particular 617 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: reason why you called into the Gecko Show today? 618 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 5: Over. 619 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 4: I've been listening to you for about two three years roughly, 620 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 4: maybe more on the two I was actually listening to 621 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 4: you on the way home, and when I parked, I 622 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 4: saw that you were going live. And I've actually emailed 623 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 4: you before. I don't know if you'll remember, and I 624 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 4: went by Amy then, so Amy is not my real name, 625 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 4: but I had emailed you before regarding that I had 626 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 4: like kind of a friendship breakup. I don't know if 627 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 4: you remember or if that's ringing any bell. 628 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, that rings a bell. 629 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 630 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 4: I was sitting in a parking lot eating Wendy's and 631 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 4: you were taking emails, So I had an email do 632 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 4: you while I was eating Wendy's. But yeah, essentially I 633 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 4: wanted to talk about my friendship breakup and how it 634 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 4: happened in October literally a couple days before my birthday, 635 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 4: and that's what made it really hurt. But we actually 636 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 4: recently reconnected, but not necessarily to become friends again, if 637 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 4: anything to kind of I don't know, clear some air, 638 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 4: which I didn't really could. If anything, it kind of 639 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 4: still we're still not friends, but we have more of 640 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 4: an understanding of why we're no longer friends. If that 641 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 4: makes any sense. 642 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: It does make sense. But can I actually, you know, 643 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,479 Speaker 1: can I get with Can I give you my gut 644 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: reaction about this? And I feel like it's, yeah, this 645 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: my gut reaction is like, man, that's a lot of 646 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: that's a lot of drama and emotion for somebody who's 647 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: not in your life. You know what I'm saying right now. 648 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 4: And that's totally fair. 649 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 3: You know. 650 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if one thing, if it was like an 651 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: ex that you spent a lot of time with or 652 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: something and whatever. But I don't know, I remember were 653 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: you like, was this like one of your best friends? 654 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: This is like a really close person to you? 655 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were best friends since I want to say 656 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 4: roughly twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, and we I feel like 657 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 4: we had like a lot of things in common, Like 658 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,760 Speaker 4: we both have moms that are kind of our biggest haters, 659 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 4: so we kind of would bond over that, and then 660 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 4: we had a lot of music interests. We grew up 661 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 4: very similarly, and gradually as we were getting older, we 662 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 4: were just getting closer and closer. And in the last 663 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 4: like three four years, I don't know, I felt like 664 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 4: things fully started changing between us and we weren't relating 665 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 4: to each other as much anymore, and as I recently 666 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 4: found out after we talked, she was kind of building 667 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 4: I don't know. She described it as almost like an 668 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 4: animosity towards me in regards to feeling like I wasn't 669 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 4: always as supportive of her. But then in turn, she said, 670 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 4: you were actually very supportive of me and you were 671 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 4: always there for me, and I just didn't see that 672 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 4: at the time, which I don't know. It didn't make 673 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 4: sense to me. I mean, it makes sense as she 674 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 4: was saying it, but then I think of my own 675 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 4: experience in our friendship and feeling like I did always 676 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 4: try to show up and be there, and it speaked 677 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 4: accommodating because for example, she doesn't drive like because she 678 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 4: lives in like downtown of my area, so she doesn't 679 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 4: really need to drive if she really had to. But 680 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 4: I would live like more in the suburb area, so 681 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 4: it was I would always be willing and happy to 682 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 4: go out of my way to go see her and 683 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 4: hang out do our stuff. And then she wanted to 684 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 4: be like, oh, well you're always running me. I'm like 685 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 4: one's coming out from farther. 686 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what you want me to do. 687 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 4: Well, yes, I could plan better, but but this is 688 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 4: I mean, this is I'm. 689 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: Going to hammer back in what I would saying, but 690 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of emotional energy and stuff for that. 691 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean, do you want to be friends with this person? 692 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 4: I mean, just because of the fact that I felt 693 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 4: like we went through so much together, I do like her. However, 694 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 4: I told you that I don't feel like I could 695 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 4: be her friend anymore because one, I feel like we're 696 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 4: just both in different parts of our lives where it 697 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 4: doesn't align as much or I felt like for her, 698 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 4: she just has her own things going on, and it 699 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 4: was just so much of a focus for her, where 700 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 4: even if I felt I wanted to talk to her 701 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 4: about things, she didn't really make herself available, So I 702 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 4: told her, yes, I miss you, I miss what we had, 703 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 4: but I don't know if we can continue being friends. 704 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 4: And so I feel like it's just more. It hurts 705 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 4: more knowing like what I lost or what I had 706 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 4: lost even from before. 707 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: Then to listen, brother, you're you're thirty three years old, right, yeah, 708 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: at that point. Well it's like, dude, you know at 709 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: this like you're thirty three years old, you're married, Do 710 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: you have a kid? No, are you planning on having 711 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: a kid? 712 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 4: Hopefully hopefully about year's end, But you never really know. 713 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 4: I do have a job. I do dog grooming. 714 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 2: So I love my job. 715 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, a job. You have a husband, you gotta. I 716 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: just have a life, you know what I mean. Like 717 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: you're just older now you got a life. It's like, 718 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like, bitch, but what are 719 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: we doing, you know, with the whole Like, uh, it's 720 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: like it's too it's too anymore. No, I mean it's 721 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: too much. It's like, listen, if someone's doing something to 722 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: piss you off, just tell them and it's fine. Also, 723 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 1: I'm at an age where if someone's doing I'm at 724 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: an age where if someone's doing something to piss me off, 725 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: unless if they're in my immediate life, I don't bring 726 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: it up. I don't care anymore because you know what, 727 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: because you get like, you get older, and you just 728 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 1: realize the time moves faster than you can hold it. 729 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: And if you don't and if you don't pick the 730 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: people and the things that are important to you, then 731 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: you just get dragged in a bunch of meaningless whatever. 732 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: And then you look at your life and you realize 733 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: that your life is an amalgamation of things and people 734 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: that you don't give a fuck about it. And so 735 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 1: there's just at thirty, like it's one thing if you're 736 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: like in high school literally or like college, but like 737 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: at this point in your life, it's like homegirl, I 738 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: can't be I can't be sending you break up emails 739 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: back and forth. You know, I got I got a life, 740 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 1: and so I hopefully so to you. I get the 741 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,800 Speaker 1: morning of it though, I understand, but I don't know. 742 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 1: It's just like that's a lot some people are a 743 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: lot of emotional edgy. If someone's in your life and 744 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: you want them to stay in your Like I have 745 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: friends who I'm like, I'm gonna be friends with these 746 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: people until I'm like eighty, but those a lot of 747 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: those guys don't even like live where I live, a 748 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: lot of these guys don't even see every day. So 749 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: I those conversation, those conversations of like, oh this is 750 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 1: my this is those like emotional conversations of like, oh 751 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: these are my feelings and this is how I think 752 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: you treated me, and this is I those are and 753 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: like those are, this is how I want to communicate 754 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: with it. Like that kind of shit is reserved to 755 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: me for like people in my day to day life. 756 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 1: People I'm working with, people I see every day, people 757 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: I am romantically intertwined with, Like that's because all that 758 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 1: shit just takes so much emotion, you know, it just 759 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: takes so much emotional energy. So it's like I got 760 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: to reserve that emotional energy for the people who are 761 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: like in my life, not the people, not just like 762 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,399 Speaker 1: someone that I get lunch with once a month. Third 763 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: but you know whatever, and it's okay, it's really not 764 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: selfish to feel that way. Your time and who you 765 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 1: spend it with are deeply, deeply, deeply precious, you know, right, 766 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: And I. 767 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 4: Mean I totally agree, because anyone I meet now, I 768 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,919 Speaker 4: guess in adulthood or whatever. Like I feel the same 769 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 4: as how you explained it, like I don't like something, 770 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 4: like I don't have to deal with it. And that's 771 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 4: why I feel like I'm kind of why I was 772 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 4: holding on to my friendship of hers for so long, 773 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 4: just because I felt like it's that whole thing I 774 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 4: had been invested so much or whatever, like I wanted 775 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 4: to preserve what I could. But then it just came 776 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 4: to a point that when we stopped being friends, I 777 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,959 Speaker 4: was like, you know what, I don't need. I don't 778 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 4: need that. But it just was really sad to think 779 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 4: about sometime because I would miss her or whatever. But 780 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 4: but like you said, there's other things going on, and 781 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 4: what is it, Because it's like one thing that I've 782 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 4: listened to your podcast before that you've mentioned or and 783 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 4: where you went to a lizard expo or something. 784 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: I went to a lizard I went to a lizard 785 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: zoo shout out the GET Gallery in Brooklyn, New York. 786 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 4: Yes, so I listened to that, and I mean I've 787 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 4: always considered like it's always all about perspective. 788 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 3: And all that. 789 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 4: And it was funny how you spoke with someone there 790 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 4: and they said, like, oh, if I was a lizard, 791 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 4: like I wouldn't have to worry about all these things, 792 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 4: or because someone would take care of me, or someone 793 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 4: would watch over me because I'm a lizard. And I 794 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 4: started to think about it like, well, I mean, yes, 795 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 4: someone could take care of you, but that's like assuming 796 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 4: there's someone to take care of you, Like it's all 797 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 4: a matter of chance, and as a person, it's all 798 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,839 Speaker 4: a matter of choice and perspective, like cause you get 799 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 4: so many calls of people just going through, you know, 800 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 4: their own shit and their own problems, and yet they 801 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,720 Speaker 4: overcome it, and I'm like, Okay, maybe my problems aren't 802 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 4: necessarily that bad, or I can always look at it 803 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 4: a different way, Like, for example, if I was having 804 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,720 Speaker 4: a bad day at work and I was like angry 805 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 4: or whatever, like oh my manager gave me all these 806 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 4: horrible dogs, or oh she like overbooked me or whatever, 807 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 4: I'd have to slowly shift it to Okay, well, maybe 808 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 4: I do have a lot on my plate today, but 809 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,919 Speaker 4: it's an opportunity you manage my time better, or maybe 810 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 4: ask for help when I typically wouldn't, or stuff like that, 811 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 4: you know, just justting the mentality. 812 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: It's deeply fulfilling It's scary at first, and then when 813 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: you really think about it, deeply fulfilling to realize that 814 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 1: nobody cares about you or your problems at all, even 815 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 1: people who like That's like, even people who love you 816 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: don't really care about your problems because they have their 817 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: own problems. They anyone care about what you do. But 818 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: it's good. If everyone cared about everyone's problems, then we 819 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: would all we would all suffocate, we'd all we'd all 820 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: blow ourselves up. Yes, is there anything else you want 821 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: to say to the people of the computer before we go? 822 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 4: No, not necessarily. I guess it's anything to just keep 823 00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 4: perspective and keep trying and maybe want to night Shaalan 824 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 4: movie because that's what I've been binging lately. I watched 825 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 4: Knock on the Cabin Knock at the Cabin yesterday with Bautista, 826 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 4: and it was actually really good, really sad, but it 827 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 4: was really good. You should watch it. 828 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: Battista, Bautista, thank you very much for calling Amy. 829 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 4: Thank you, Lyle, have a great day, Have a good night, Amy. 830 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 2: Bye. 831 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: Bautista. Let me google it. But Tisteta, Oh Dave Bautista, Okay, 832 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: he's an actor and he was in knock at the Cabin. 833 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: How's it end? I'm gonna read that. This is This 834 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: is what I like to do. Is I like to 835 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: read the very you guys want, I'm going to read 836 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 1: the very end. Okay, if you haven't seen Knock at 837 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: the Cabin, I don't like. I don't really watch movies. 838 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,240 Speaker 1: I watched one movie every three years, and it's usually 839 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: really good. I watched Marty Supreme awesome. Uh, that's the 840 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: one movie I've seen in the last five years. Okay, 841 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read the very end of skip ahead fifteen 842 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: seconds in the podcast if you don't want to hear. 843 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 2: The end of. 844 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 1: Knock at the Cabin. 845 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 2: All right. 846 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 1: They drive off, making a stop at a crowded diner 847 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: where they watch news reports confirming that the disasters have 848 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: abruptly ended. You know what's crazy, I don't that doesn't 849 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: give away I feel like that doesn't give away anything. 850 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,360 Speaker 1: I feel like that movie has not been spoiled for 851 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 1: me because I don't know who they are. I don't 852 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,360 Speaker 1: know there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff. 853 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: I don't know why I did that, But because I don't, 854 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna. I'm gonna. Okay, let's I'm gonna spoil 855 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: the end if the Game of Thrones. Sorry, I know 856 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 1: you guys want to hear phone calls, but how does 857 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: Game of Thrones end? I'm not gonna watch it? How 858 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: long is it? I'm gonna save everyone time by spoiling 859 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 1: the ending of Game of Thrones right now, if you're 860 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:15,439 Speaker 1: currently watching it, I'm about to spoil. Skip past where 861 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: the ad break is because I'm gonna spoil the end 862 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 1: of Game of Thrones. All right? The iron thrown and 863 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,799 Speaker 1: that's the series finale of Game of Thrones. How's it end? 864 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 1: Fuck this? I don't want to watch this shit? How 865 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: does this fucking shit end? 866 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 2: All right? 867 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: John leads them to return to the lands beyond the 868 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: Wall as the millennia long winter in that region begins 869 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: to thaw. Who cares? I bet if I see, I 870 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: would care about that if I had watched the whole 871 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 1: I think that's the point of TV's You're supposed to 872 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: slowly start caring about the characters afterwards. I mean, over time. 873 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 1: But if you just go to the Wikipedia page of 874 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: a TV show and then you read the last line, 875 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 1: then you'll be like, I don't give a shit? 876 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 3: What? 877 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: All right? One more what the Sopranos. Fuck the Sopranos. Wait, 878 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: I've already seen the ending of the Sopranos. He's just 879 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: like he looks up. That's the ending of the Sopranos. 880 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 1: Is he looks up? 881 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 2: All right? 882 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 1: All right? Sorry? Hello, yo, get go? What's up? Brother? 883 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: How you doing? 884 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:32,839 Speaker 3: No way? Good hour? 885 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 1: How am I? I'm doing? Not too bad. I'm enjoying life. 886 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not satisfied. I'm definitely not satisfied. No, 887 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: I'm not satisfied. There's a lot more that I need 888 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: to refine and do before I'm satisfied. And I'm stressed 889 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: out about it because I don't have good enough systems 890 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 1: in place for for me to feel truly peaceful and 891 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 1: satisfied with myself. But I'm on the way there. I 892 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: have full confidence. I'm on the way there. The problem 893 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 1: is that I'm twenty eight, and. 894 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 3: I live in. 895 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 1: A universe that I've created at this point. You know, 896 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: when you're young, when you're like when you're in college 897 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 1: and high school, it's like, all right, I'll just wait 898 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: until the next grade. But then once you graduate, you're like, 899 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: you can't do that anymore. You just there's no next thing. 900 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 1: There's no purgatory, there's just this is it. 901 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:32,800 Speaker 4: You know. 902 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 1: It's great. I love it. I love I feel the 903 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 1: most free at this age in my life. I feel 904 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 1: very free. I feel I've also had at least three 905 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: separate times where I thought there was nothing past this, 906 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,880 Speaker 1: like okay, like three separate times where I was like, 907 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: I think everything's over. And now I'm not even talking 908 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 1: about like my career whatever. I'm just talking about like life. 909 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 2: You know. 910 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: I've had three separate times where I'm like, I think 911 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: that it's over, and then there's like a whole new 912 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: life behind it. It's cool, it's interesting, and so I've 913 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: learned that's happened to me enough. And also I see 914 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 1: forty six year old guys in New York like walking 915 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,440 Speaker 1: around and like eating sandwiches, and I'm like, one day 916 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to be that guy, and that's like five 917 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: lifetimes from now. So I feel good. I feel pretty confident. 918 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 4: That's all. 919 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 1: That's all I'm doing. How are you doing? What's going on? 920 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: What made you want to call it my Gecko show? 921 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. 922 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,399 Speaker 3: Well, we've talked before, and I've been wanting to give 923 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,239 Speaker 3: you an update. So I've been trying to call you 924 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,359 Speaker 3: but I never get through. 925 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: Okay, what do we talk about? 926 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 3: Uh? The I was on the podcast. The episode is 927 00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 3: OCD and Skateboarding, and we talked about out how I 928 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 3: thought I had OCD and that I was like traveling 929 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,279 Speaker 3: and like teaching kids how to skate and show like that. 930 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 1: Cool. Okay, you know it's funny. I'm gonna be so 931 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: honest with you. I know I remember the name of 932 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 1: that episode, but I can't remember a lot of what 933 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: we talked about. So why don't you go ahead and 934 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 1: tell me where you're at right now? 935 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 3: Well, I'm at work, so if I got to. 936 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 1: Go, I don't mean I don't mean physically figure it out, 937 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 1: but like. 938 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 3: Right now in life, yes, Well, I have yet to 939 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,399 Speaker 3: go to a psychiatrist. I've been to therapy again, which 940 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 3: is great. And I have a girlfriend now and she 941 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,880 Speaker 3: has kind of like opened up my eyes about thinking 942 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 3: about the world differently, and that has also helped me 943 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 3: a lot. So we're kind of there. We're doing good 944 00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 3: deck some some bad parts, but you know, life. 945 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: Okay, that's pretty good. What ways has your girlfriend helped 946 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 1: you see things differently? 947 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 3: She like one thing that really stuck with me when 948 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 3: we first met, was like she told me that she 949 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 3: doesn't think embarrassment is real, which at first I'm like, 950 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 3: all right, I'm skeptical, but she was like, well, if 951 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 3: you do like something embarrassing or like what you think 952 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 3: is embarrassing, but you play it off like it's not, 953 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 3: then nobody else will think it's embarrassing. And I kind 954 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 3: of totally understand. 955 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:45,919 Speaker 1: That one hundred correct, you know, and I never thought 956 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: of it that way. Yeah, well, I mean, how do 957 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:53,279 Speaker 1: you think, like that's how cool people operate is they 958 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 1: just play everything off like it was meant like they meant. 959 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 3: To do it exactly. Also, I've been playing kndoma a 960 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 3: lot recently, which if I go to one of your shows, 961 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,240 Speaker 3: I'm bringing you a Kandama. 962 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm very excited for It's super sick that I don't know. 963 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 3: I've just been kind of living. I'm also not satisfied 964 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 3: with my life right now, and so I've just been 965 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 3: like running around trying to figure myself out. But I'm 966 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 3: really young, so I'm still trying to I'm trying not 967 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 3: to rush things, but at the same time, I feel 968 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 3: like I'm not where I'm supposed to be if that 969 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 3: makes sense. Like I look at like I know, comparison 970 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 3: is the thief of joy. Uh And I look at 971 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 3: like kids that I went to high school with. I mean, 972 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 3: some are doing bad, some are doing good, some are 973 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 3: getting married. Because I'm I'm going to be twenty two 974 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 3: this year, so I'm pretty young. But I just like, 975 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 3: I work at a parts store right now, and I've 976 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 3: been here for three years or so, and I kind 977 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 3: of I'm kind of like, am I supposed to be here? Like? 978 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 3: Am I supposed to be somewhere else in life? 979 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 980 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 3: Like I don't feel like you said, like I don't 981 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 3: feel satisfied like I'm here, but I don't feel like 982 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 3: I'm happy, don't get me wrong, but I I feel 983 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 3: like there should be more If that makes sense? 984 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 1: You feel like there should be more? Well? What like 985 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm not what more? What more do you want there 986 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 1: to be? Brother? 987 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 3: See? And that And that's the thing is like I 988 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 3: don't know, And I guess that's where I'm like, Shit, 989 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,919 Speaker 3: should I go to college? Should I quit my job 990 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 3: and switch jobs? Should I? Like, I'm going to Colorado 991 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,919 Speaker 3: for my birthday? Uh? Here here soon? And I missed 992 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 3: Colorado a lot. So I'm like, should I check that out? 993 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 3: Like where I should go there? Like maybe move there? 994 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. 995 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: Just how you're twenty two. Yeah, I will do all 996 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 1: of it, man, Just do random stuff. Just do all 997 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 1: of it, don't don't. You're freaking yourself out for no 998 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 1: for no reason. Man, Just just just I didn't think. 999 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but just just just just do something. Man, 1000 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 1: I'm putting like anything, you're you're a perfectly You're a 1001 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 1: you are a perfect human being. Yeah, you're perfect, You're perfect, 1002 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 1: You're not such anything. Just go do something, man, Okay, Okay, yeah, 1003 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: just because. 1004 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 3: Okay, So, like I I live in Iowa and all 1005 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:03,959 Speaker 3: my family and friends are in Iowa and not really 1006 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 3: realizing that I'm pretty lucky to have like grandparents and 1007 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 3: a couple of great grandparents still at my age. So 1008 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 3: I'm very family oriented and I love my family a lot, 1009 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 3: and it's really hard for me to be like, all right, 1010 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say fuck it Moose States, or like I 1011 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 3: can't do anything till September because my lease isn't up 1012 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 3: until then. But I like I'm scared that I'm gonna 1013 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 3: like make my mom mad, or like upset that I'm 1014 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 3: leaving or. 1015 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 1: Stop stop. I you can't be upset that you're making 1016 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 1: your mom mad. What's your name again? Sully Sally Sally Sally, 1017 01:00:52,440 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 1: I know, Gek, I know Gik Sally Sally. I'm literally yelling, 1018 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm pissing No, I guess I can hear you. 1019 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 2: Can you hear me? 1020 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm yelling, yeah, I know, pissing off my neighbors. Dude, 1021 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 1: I watch TV so fucked dude. I'll watch TV like 1022 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 1: at what I think is a normal volume, and then 1023 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 1: I'll walk into like the my apartment hallway and I 1024 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 1: could hear the TV from like the elevator. Nobody has 1025 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 1: ever said anything to me, so I don't think it's 1026 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 1: a problem. But like everyone get like, there's at least 1027 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 1: ten other people that are trying to ignore this conversation 1028 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 1: right now. They can hear my version of it. They 1029 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 1: can't hear your They could hear me yell Sully Willson Sully, 1030 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill you. No, I'm not going to kill you, 1031 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 1: but Jesus christ Man, like, by the way, I get it, 1032 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 1: I know I by the way I have this. I 1033 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,439 Speaker 1: want you to know I have the same thing, dude. 1034 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 1: Like I go home, Like I have the same thing, dude, 1035 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 1: Like I I recognize that, Like I've chosen to like 1036 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 1: leave my hometown and like live a life. I live, 1037 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 1: live my own life. I would never do it any 1038 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 1: other way. Like me, my sister, we we like that's 1039 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 1: what we decided to do with our lives and it 1040 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 1: was never an option to not do that. But I 1041 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,880 Speaker 1: go home and I'm like, uh, my mom looks like 1042 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 1: rapidly older every time I see her in person. So 1043 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:26,560 Speaker 1: does my dad. It's hard, it's a bummer. I call 1044 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 1: them frequently. I was on the phone with my mom. 1045 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 1: I was on the phone with my mom today and 1046 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,960 Speaker 1: she told me a story about how I was almost 1047 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: never born. But that's her story. But I call them 1048 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: all the time, and I have like an adults relationship 1049 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 1: with them, and it's on First of all, it's on 1050 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 1: your mom to let you go have your own life, 1051 01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 1: but it's on you too. At some point just decide 1052 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:55,040 Speaker 1: that you need to have your own life. I get. 1053 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 1: I get it's a very American thing, and it is. 1054 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 1: It's a very American thing to go and have your 1055 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 1: own life. But you have it in you to want 1056 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,560 Speaker 1: to have your own. Your mom's not forcing you to 1057 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 1: want to have your she's doing the opposite you. I 1058 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 1: feel within you that you want to have your own life, 1059 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 1: So like, go have your own life. Man Like, don't 1060 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 1: let your mom tell you to not. 1061 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:20,920 Speaker 4: Do it. 1062 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 1: Go have your own life. It's good. You don't want 1063 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:29,600 Speaker 1: to be like a kid forever. You want to have 1064 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 1: your own semblance of existence on this own world. And 1065 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 1: by the way, call your fucking mom once a week. 1066 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 1: Call your grandparents, call them, visit them. 1067 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 3: Oh I do all the time. I love them. 1068 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure you do. That's great. Like, by the way, 1069 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,240 Speaker 1: your family oriented. You want to meet you want to 1070 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 1: meet a woman, you want to meet, You want to 1071 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 1: have a wife, You want to have a girlfriend. You 1072 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 1: wanna do all that stuff. Yeah, in order to do that, 1073 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 1: you have to have your own life. 1074 01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 3: You're right, you know. 1075 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 1: So you you want to You want to look back 1076 01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 1: on your life and be proud of yourself, not even 1077 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 1: because whatever you made a bunch of money or you 1078 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 1: were successful or whatever, but because you interfaced with the 1079 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 1: planet and go, you know what, uh go, Actually, here's 1080 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 1: here's what you gotta do after this, bro. Go watch 1081 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 1: the beginning of Hercules. Oh god, dude, go watch the beginning. 1082 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so it makes me cry. I 1083 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 1: have often dreamed have a far off place. It's a 1084 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 1: great song. Go search up. Go on YouTube, search up. Fuck, 1085 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 1: what's the name of the song? What's the name of 1086 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 1: the song from Hercules where he leaves his parents and 1087 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 1: goes leaves, goes on adventure. 1088 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. I haven't seen him forever. 1089 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 1: Like, oh, it's I can go the distance. Go search up. 1090 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,880 Speaker 1: I can go the distance on YouTube. You can go 1091 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 1: to the distance. It's like you're like playing Pokemon and 1092 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 1: you know you're not leaving fucking Palette town, you know. 1093 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 3: Can we get can we get deep for a second? 1094 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 1: Can you want to do you want to spend sally? 1095 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 1: Do you want to spend this life catching the doofs 1096 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 1: in Palette Town? Or do you want to get yourself 1097 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:21,440 Speaker 1: a fucking requaiser? 1098 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 3: I want to a requiz you. 1099 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,120 Speaker 1: Want to requaiz it? Yes, we can get deep? What's up? 1100 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,720 Speaker 3: Okay? I okay, I want to know your I've been 1101 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 3: really stuck on this for a while because it's on 1102 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:38,600 Speaker 3: the topic of life, right, yeah, okay, Recently, I don't 1103 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 3: like talking about death and I know it's gonna happen, 1104 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,680 Speaker 3: and when it's my time, it's my time. But like 1105 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,520 Speaker 3: for me, it's really hard for me to fathom like 1106 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:55,439 Speaker 3: what happens if that makes sense, like in my head, 1107 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,720 Speaker 3: Like my family's not like religious, but like I believe 1108 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,240 Speaker 3: that like a higher power. And so I'm like, okay, 1109 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 3: like we go somewhere when we die. But at the 1110 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:11,080 Speaker 3: same time, I'm also, well, there's nothing after, you know. 1111 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 3: It's like what people say, like, oh, do you remember 1112 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 3: when you were born? No, all right, it's the same shit, 1113 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 3: And like scares the fuck out of me. And I 1114 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 3: want to know what you think. 1115 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,600 Speaker 1: Here's what I think the other day. Okay, you're twenty 1116 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,959 Speaker 1: two and you're freaking out about this every day, dude. 1117 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,160 Speaker 1: The other day I was at a I was a 1118 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 1: like a diner and there's a like eighty seven year 1119 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:43,120 Speaker 1: old man next to me. He was eating soup, and 1120 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,440 Speaker 1: his soup he didn't like his soup. So you know 1121 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 1: what he did? 1122 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 3: He ate it? 1123 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:53,520 Speaker 1: No, no, he he asked the waiter. He was like, hey, 1124 01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,440 Speaker 1: I didn't like the soup, could you, like, could you 1125 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,040 Speaker 1: remake it? He hasked the waiter to remake a soup. 1126 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,200 Speaker 1: Do you know why? Do you know why this is relevant? 1127 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 4: Why? 1128 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 1: Because that guy is eighty seven years old. He's being 1129 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 1: he's gonna get sent into oblivion any day now, Sully. 1130 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,800 Speaker 1: Any day now, that eighty seven year old man is 1131 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 1: gonna get sent into ablivion. And he's over here pissed 1132 01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:31,040 Speaker 1: off because his soup is he's not pissed off. He 1133 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 1: wasn't pissed off. He wasn't pissed off. I don't want 1134 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,200 Speaker 1: to characterize him. He's not grumpy old man, but he was. 1135 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 1: He wanted the soup, you know that way. He was assertive. 1136 01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,959 Speaker 1: He was not a grumpy old but he was nice 1137 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 1: to the waiter. But he just wanted to and you know, 1138 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,040 Speaker 1: I saw nothing. But the point about this guy is 1139 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,920 Speaker 1: he's just living his life. And that guy should be 1140 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,000 Speaker 1: way more scared than you. You have a lifetime ahead 1141 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 1: of you before you need to worry about death. That 1142 01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 1: guy could die that afternoon. That guy could be like, 1143 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,600 Speaker 1: oh I don't like the soup. Aneurysm death. You know, 1144 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 1: he's not even thinking about it. He's thinking about his 1145 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 1: dumb ass life. He's thinking about exactly what's going on 1146 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 1: in his stupid, almost over life. And so that's what 1147 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 1: I think is the right thing to do until you're dead. 1148 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the right thing to do 1149 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,840 Speaker 1: until you're dead. I've of course, I've talked about a 1150 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,639 Speaker 1: lot on the podcast about like being afraid of death 1151 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,839 Speaker 1: and asking the major questions of life and all this stuff. 1152 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 1: But I'm over that, man, I'm over that. I've decided personally, 1153 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,599 Speaker 1: I think it's good to go through that. I think 1154 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 1: it's good to have your questioning and your thinking and 1155 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:44,240 Speaker 1: all that stuff. But just at a certain point, man, 1156 01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 1: you got to join the living and you got to 1157 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,879 Speaker 1: just like be in it. You got to have things 1158 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:56,719 Speaker 1: that pull you into life, whether it's like responsibilities or people, 1159 01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:02,519 Speaker 1: or goals or novelty or drugs and alcohol or you know, 1160 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,280 Speaker 1: whatever it is that is your thing. Just you got 1161 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:06,559 Speaker 1: go join the living. 1162 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,639 Speaker 3: Well, I'm just I'm such a go go go person. 1163 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,160 Speaker 3: So recently I've been trying to like live in the 1164 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,599 Speaker 3: moment and just be like, all right, I'm here, I'm 1165 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 3: doing this, Like let's not think about the next thing, 1166 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:23,040 Speaker 3: and like what my mom says is just be just 1167 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,519 Speaker 3: be here, just be And I've been really trying to 1168 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,680 Speaker 3: do that recently, especially like in the New Year. That 1169 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 3: was one of my like whatever New Year's resolutions or 1170 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,599 Speaker 3: whatever is to just be and I'm doing our right, 1171 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 3: I'm doing decent. But it comes across my mind all 1172 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 3: the time. And then I try to not freak out. 1173 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,599 Speaker 1: How old are you? How's your mom? 1174 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,639 Speaker 3: It's fifty, I'm forty nine. Fifty. 1175 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,960 Speaker 1: She's living her life, right, She's just being She's existing. 1176 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,160 Speaker 1: She's not freaking out about death. She's not freaking out 1177 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,920 Speaker 1: about being old. She's not grieving her twenties. She's fucking 1178 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,760 Speaker 1: grocery shopping and walking around and watching TV. 1179 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 3: That's true. Seinfeld, Seinfeld Fire fire Show. 1180 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,120 Speaker 1: Life is good, dude, life, life is good, and it's 1181 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:16,000 Speaker 1: gonna get better. I really believe that. I'm excited. I'm 1182 01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,560 Speaker 1: excited to I was talking to my friends on the 1183 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:23,000 Speaker 1: phone today and he was getting he was getting lunch 1184 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,000 Speaker 1: with his aunt, and his aunt is like sixty sixty something, 1185 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:32,879 Speaker 1: and she was like stuffing She's like frantically stuffing lettuce 1186 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,320 Speaker 1: in her face and like kind of she like eating 1187 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:40,040 Speaker 1: really grossly, like just being like, oh yeah, we're gonna 1188 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 1: make sure we get off on that and just like 1189 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,519 Speaker 1: eating really gross and and it was like, oh, that's 1190 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 1: that's good, because it's like one day I'll be one 1191 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:55,639 Speaker 1: day will be like sixty something, will be much closer 1192 01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,280 Speaker 1: to death than we are now, and we're not gonna 1193 01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:59,920 Speaker 1: be worked out. We're not gonna be freaking out about 1194 01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:05,880 Speaker 1: we gonna be like eating food really grossly and talking 1195 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,639 Speaker 1: about some fucking thing that doesn't matter. We're gonna be fine. 1196 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,599 Speaker 1: All those people are gonna be dead that we're talking 1197 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,560 Speaker 1: about right now, and it's gonna be our turn to 1198 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,960 Speaker 1: ignore our own deaths and we'll be fine. It's gonna 1199 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:23,080 Speaker 1: be fine. It promise you. It's we're designed to uh 1200 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:27,800 Speaker 1: go away. Uh. But in the meantime, and this is 1201 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,479 Speaker 1: why you need to leave your fucking palette town is 1202 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,559 Speaker 1: because in the meantime, you're uh you want to look 1203 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 1: a live a life that you're proud of, right and 1204 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,840 Speaker 1: you want to have when you're older. If you're gonna 1205 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 1: have your family oriented, you probably want to have kids 1206 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 1: one day. When you're older, you're gonna want to uh 1207 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 1: uh still do all the things that you want to 1208 01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,000 Speaker 1: do now, and you'll figure out a way to do them. 1209 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:50,720 Speaker 1: But when you're older, you're gonna want to have a 1210 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,680 Speaker 1: life that you can talk about to your children. You're 1211 01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,479 Speaker 1: gonna want to have life experience so you can help 1212 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 1: your kids go through their life. And you know you 1213 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 1: want like, like, just live your life, dude, Like you're 1214 01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 1: you're sitting here, you're freaking out about death when you're 1215 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:09,760 Speaker 1: not even living your life. You know, so, and I 1216 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,080 Speaker 1: and I know, I know it's hard where I know 1217 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,880 Speaker 1: money is tight in this economy, and and and it's 1218 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,439 Speaker 1: a uh, it's hard. It's not the easy path to 1219 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 1: go and live your life and try to do a thing. 1220 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,160 Speaker 1: It's easier to just whatever. And again it's a very 1221 01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 1: American thing, I think, to go out on your own. 1222 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,760 Speaker 1: But if it's what you want to try, then at 1223 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,280 Speaker 1: least try it. That's all. That's my rant to you, Sully. 1224 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1225 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm sick of hearing my own voice, so I'm gonna 1226 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:37,320 Speaker 1: let you go. 1227 01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:39,040 Speaker 3: No, you're good. 1228 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:40,720 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 1229 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go? 1230 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:48,639 Speaker 3: Uh? Love yourself? Uh and be kind, thank you, silly, 1231 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,679 Speaker 3: good luck man, thank you gek. 1232 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,360 Speaker 1: Yeah that Sully. I like Sully. 1233 01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:58,040 Speaker 3: I do. 1234 01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,360 Speaker 1: So good guy. I went on a bit of a rant, 1235 01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:05,759 Speaker 1: but it's okay. I kinda I actually like going on rants? 1236 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,920 Speaker 1: Actually was I lied? No, nobody hosts. Nobody who hosts 1237 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,200 Speaker 1: a podcast doesn't like the sound of their own voice. 1238 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,840 Speaker 1: That's a lie. Hello, folks, it's Lyle here. That's the 1239 01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 1: end of this episode. But get this, I'm releasing a 1240 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:24,960 Speaker 1: bonus episode this week. 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Wait, Wait, why are you beating 1249 01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 1: your parents at a casino? 1250 01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,880 Speaker 5: My father had told me that a cousin could do roofe, 1251 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,519 Speaker 5: so he said, hey, you know, just give me the 1252 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:05,120 Speaker 5: money and I'll help you out. I gave them about 1253 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:09,920 Speaker 5: three grand, and week after week, month after month, you know, 1254 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,040 Speaker 5: I'd be like, what's up, where are you? Are you 1255 01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:16,040 Speaker 5: gonna come? And he never came. I asked my father 1256 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:22,680 Speaker 5: for the money back and My parents' immediate response was, 1257 01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:27,000 Speaker 5: you don't understand we you owe us for raising you. 1258 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,559 Speaker 1: If you want to hear this full conversation, you can 1259 01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,639 Speaker 1: sign up to become a premium member at therapy Gecko 1260 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,640 Speaker 1: dot supercast dot com, or find the link in the 1261 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:42,439 Speaker 1: episode description that's therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com. All right, 1262 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:47,000 Speaker 1: I have nothing else to say. Goes on the line 1263 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:52,439 Speaker 1: thank you. Every nine everything goes to teaching you a 1264 01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,200 Speaker 2: Nice expert