WEBVTT - Ep. 71: New Curriculum + OTA’s up Next | Jags A.M. Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Welcomeing to JAG xam.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind Annie Stephens, Brian Sexton, and John Osier are

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<v Speaker 2>with me today.

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<v Speaker 1>Is we get ready for okas next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Rookie Mini camp is behind us, and we didn't learn

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<v Speaker 2>this whole lot, but it is always nice to have

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<v Speaker 2>people back in the building and get ready for things

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<v Speaker 2>to get going this season. Our first big thing today

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<v Speaker 2>is pro football one oh one, A little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a teaching thing here today as the rookies came to

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<v Speaker 2>the building for the first time last week and got

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<v Speaker 2>to try to figure out exactly how this whole pro

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<v Speaker 2>thing goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they're with an NFL club, you know. Right now

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<v Speaker 3>they're we're just rookies. And so come Monday, when everybody

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<v Speaker 3>starts walking in here, you know, and they start seeing

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<v Speaker 3>all the guys, you know, it makes an impact on them.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, there are a lot of these guys,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I see they were they were starters in

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<v Speaker 3>college and now they're gonna they're gonna have to take

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<v Speaker 3>backup roles and they're going to compete for for starting

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<v Speaker 3>positions or at least compete for that backup spot and

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<v Speaker 3>and it and it changes just a little bit for

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<v Speaker 3>them So this weekend, though, from the meetings to the

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<v Speaker 3>on the field stuff, is really going to prepare them

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<v Speaker 3>for the next you know, five weeks. I guess that

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<v Speaker 3>we're here, Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked a little bit about this last week. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>they played big time football. These are high level players

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<v Speaker 2>in college, but getting to the NFL is a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit different.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, last weekend, Kay, the process took center stage.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, where you meet, where you eat, where you

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<v Speaker 4>walk to get to the locker room, all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>This week is they get onto the field, even though

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<v Speaker 4>they're not competing yet, it's about the pros and they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to see big, strong and fast. They're going to

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<v Speaker 4>see a different level of competition because these are grown

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<v Speaker 4>men and they are highly paid and this is about

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<v Speaker 4>their livelihood. So that's an interesting transition year to year

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<v Speaker 4>from the college kids who were celebrated, who were seen

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<v Speaker 4>as the big men on campus, and then they put

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<v Speaker 4>their feet here and have to figure it all out.

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<v Speaker 5>John, Yeah, I laughed. I saw a story over the

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<v Speaker 5>weekend that said some Jaguars rookie was bawling out at

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<v Speaker 5>the rookie ging, and I wondered how because there was

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<v Speaker 5>no one on ones and there was no seven on seven,

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<v Speaker 5>so I guess they were balling out running routes. And

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, if you have to write the stories, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not necessarily criticiding the story. But there's a misconception about

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<v Speaker 5>what rookie Uni caamp Is Doug said it best. They

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<v Speaker 5>were trying to get the rookies to the point where

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<v Speaker 5>yesterday when the veterans got here and the rookies walked in,

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<v Speaker 5>that the rookies weren't eight steps behind and slowing things down,

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<v Speaker 5>and they wanted to give them a chance to compete.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what last weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Was balling out.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll get there.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get there soon, John, I promise.

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<v Speaker 2>Our second big thing this week is here today is

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<v Speaker 2>new curriculum.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they're back in school, they.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to learn a lot of new things and that

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<v Speaker 2>goes for some of the that's as well because of

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<v Speaker 2>a new defensive coordinator and his staff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bit of learning curve for the players.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just a different scheme, right, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>different scheme, and and you know you're you're you're switching

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<v Speaker 3>gears a little bit from that that three you know

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<v Speaker 3>three four mode to to kind of four down mode.

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<v Speaker 3>And and even though you spend so much time in

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<v Speaker 3>you know four down defense a lot anyway, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think some of the techniques are going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>little different. Obviously, there's learning with the verbage and terminology linebacker,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the fits, and just the way what I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen so far, the way the coaches have have have

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<v Speaker 3>coached them, and some of the drill work that they're

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<v Speaker 3>doing on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>John, We're making a lot about this scheme being totally

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<v Speaker 2>different than last year. How difficult is this going to

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<v Speaker 2>be to pick up for the defense?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean it's it's new. Uh, they're pro football players,

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<v Speaker 5>so I anticipate them being able to pick it up.

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<v Speaker 5>The dbs. The corners will play more press. Man, it's

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<v Speaker 5>not you've never done that before in their lives. Their

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<v Speaker 5>cornerbacks and they know how to play football. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>a transition. I don't think it should be a transition

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<v Speaker 5>that come Week one they have no idea what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 5>but they have to work on it all offseason.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of these guys have played together before and

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<v Speaker 4>that's where the communication comes, right. Guys like Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 4>looking to the back end and looking at a safety

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<v Speaker 4>and saying, hey, Cisco, this is.

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<v Speaker 6>Where we do this.

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<v Speaker 4>The terminology will come and there are some new faces

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<v Speaker 4>out there, Ronald Darby, Eric Armstead, But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 4>these guys are in the locker room and in the

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<v Speaker 4>meeting rooms and on the plane and the bus together

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<v Speaker 4>and they'll figure out how to communicate the new verbage

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<v Speaker 4>because they know how to communicate with one another.

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<v Speaker 2>Our final big thing today is going to be homework complete.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of last season, GM Trent balk And said,

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<v Speaker 2>you wanted this team to get bigger, faster, and more physical,

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<v Speaker 2>and head coach Doug Peterson addressed some of those new additions,

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<v Speaker 2>both from the draft and also free agency.

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<v Speaker 3>I think number one, we've gotten a bigger right, just

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<v Speaker 3>physically big right, with some of the draft picks and

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<v Speaker 3>undrafted guys and even some of our players coming back,

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<v Speaker 3>we've gotten bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>I think speed.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got a tick faster. You know, obviously we know

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Speed is a wide receiver, and some of the dbs. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we've gotten faster.

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<v Speaker 6>And then when we put.

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<v Speaker 3>The pads on in July in August, we'll see where

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<v Speaker 3>we are physically.

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<v Speaker 2>We got two out of the three checked off, Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>When you look at this is how much of this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be mentality And when they go into

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<v Speaker 2>training camp and kind of getting that now that they

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<v Speaker 2>are bigger, faster, stronger, if you want to put it

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<v Speaker 2>that way, to be more physical and use that as

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<v Speaker 2>a pro.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know every coach wants to be bigger, faster,

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<v Speaker 4>stronger and more physical every year. But you hit on

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<v Speaker 4>the keyword there, Kai and that's the mentality. And last

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<v Speaker 4>year they just didn't play big in big games. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's a mindset. I'm not sure whether it's preparation.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>They have to be bigger to play better, But to me,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to see this team convert from the potential

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<v Speaker 4>to the actual, which they didn't do in the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>games last year. And so you say, well, you're bigger

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<v Speaker 4>and you're stronger. With Eric Armstead, well he also brings

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<v Speaker 4>a certain mentality from a championship caliber club. Same thing

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<v Speaker 4>with Ronald Darby out on the edge. I mean he

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<v Speaker 4>played in a Super Bowl. So these are guys that

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<v Speaker 4>bring the mental side of the game into your locker room,

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<v Speaker 4>and you don't quantify that on a chart. You just

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<v Speaker 4>understand it by the way that they prepare and the way.

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<v Speaker 6>That they play.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think Doug's headed best also last week. Look,

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<v Speaker 5>everybody in the NFL is big and strong, and they

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<v Speaker 5>play physically. I think more than anything the theme of

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<v Speaker 5>the offseason. Yes, they're a little bigger. I think they

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<v Speaker 5>may be a little faster at wide receiver, but they

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to be more of a team that in the

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<v Speaker 5>last five games of the season when you had to

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<v Speaker 5>have a win, they just figured out a way. And

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<v Speaker 5>maybe you couldn't even point to it after the game

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<v Speaker 5>and say why they won, but they could take a

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<v Speaker 5>game by the throat. I think Doug want anything withou

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<v Speaker 5>like a team that's raw. You know that that's the

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<v Speaker 5>intangible you want. You know, I'm gonna grab it and

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<v Speaker 5>take over and maybe you roar a little bit around.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, Kay, little rar, I'm dressed for it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was just about to say, between your dress, Ki and

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<v Speaker 4>that roar, we are certainly in costume today.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it. Stay with us after the break, more roaring,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to jag Zam this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>As you had Mini camp last week, I know that's

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<v Speaker 2>your favorite activity of the year, you guys, But we

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<v Speaker 2>do a VOKS coming up, which is exciting to get

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<v Speaker 2>everybody back in the building and kind of feels a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more like football. And then training camp is here,

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<v Speaker 2>which that's a whole other thing. So let's talk a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about mini camp. We got to see some

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<v Speaker 2>of these rookies for the very first time. Obviously, Brian Thomas,

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<v Speaker 2>the first round pick, was out there running routes, probably

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<v Speaker 2>killing it as they would say, you know, John probably

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<v Speaker 2>has some other verbal balling out.

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<v Speaker 5>And Brian Thomas did look I mean, in mini camp,

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<v Speaker 5>you want guys to look the part. Mason Smith looked

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<v Speaker 5>bigger than everybody else and looked more physical than everybody else,

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<v Speaker 5>and Brian Thomas looked faster and looked like he was

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<v Speaker 5>touched by God more than anybody else on the field

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of playing that position. Jarvis Lander, who was

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<v Speaker 5>in for a tryout, said he he's got elite talent.

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<v Speaker 5>You can see it. He's quicker, catches, the ball cleaner,

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<v Speaker 5>all those things that you want to see a guy

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<v Speaker 5>when he's running routes on air. So, Brian, you've heard

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<v Speaker 5>the same analogy I've heard for years. What you don't

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<v Speaker 5>want is the GM and scouts walking out going and

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't since you saw any of that. We'll see

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<v Speaker 5>more this week.

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<v Speaker 4>When you look at him, there's no chance that you

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<v Speaker 4>could be anything other than entus.

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<v Speaker 6>Just his length stands out to me.

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<v Speaker 4>And and when you see a shot of his legs,

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<v Speaker 4>how long his legs are, and you.

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<v Speaker 6>Look the part.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, get in and learn it and be ready to

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<v Speaker 4>go so that you can make a contribution in training.

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<v Speaker 1>Camp play the part for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned Mason Smith John Uh, he's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>uh that tecond round pick for us that physically is

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<v Speaker 2>one of those players that Trent Palky is very excited

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<v Speaker 2>to get out here. He spoke after practice a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit and about what he's most excited about.

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<v Speaker 7>I always been accustomed to hard work, man, just having

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<v Speaker 7>having to see my mother, you know, she's a family

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<v Speaker 7>pediatrician doctor. Seeing her work, you know, early morning is

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<v Speaker 7>long night. Seeing my father work in the field for

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<v Speaker 7>thirty plus years. Man, I'm accustomed to so you know

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<v Speaker 7>I never really shy await the p no matter what

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<v Speaker 7>I ever went through, man. And uh, you know, the

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<v Speaker 7>cream always rides to the cr I mean, the cream

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<v Speaker 7>always rights to the top, man. And you know, i'ma

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<v Speaker 7>just keep my head down and keep working and continue

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<v Speaker 7>to progress.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. That's all I can think of.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard worker, exactly what you wanna hear, especially going into

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<v Speaker 2>OTA in training camp around the corner. They're banking a

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<v Speaker 2>lot on him, kind of rebounding from that injury that

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<v Speaker 2>he suffered when he had an ACL. Terry played last year,

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't quite all the way back, but they're hoping now

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<v Speaker 2>that he's fully recovered, we'll see a different player.

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<v Speaker 4>When you look at him, you see a guy that

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<v Speaker 4>you want on your team. And then when you hear

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<v Speaker 4>him talk about mother being a pediatrician, dad working in

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<v Speaker 4>the oil fields, which we all know is a tough, rough,

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<v Speaker 4>blue collar job, it gives you a lot of background

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<v Speaker 4>information on how the kid was raised, and so it

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<v Speaker 4>gives you a lot of opportunity, a lot of hope

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<v Speaker 4>that he's going to come in here and apply that

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<v Speaker 4>towards being who he was before the injury in twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty two.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's been some buzz, Oh why they picked that guy.

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<v Speaker 5>He was hurt in college. Look the ACL. It happened

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<v Speaker 5>in early twenty twenty two. The common comeback from that

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<v Speaker 5>is difficulty coming back. First year, maybe a little slow,

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<v Speaker 5>started to come out of it, and then by year

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<v Speaker 5>the second year after an ACL, anybody will tell you

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<v Speaker 5>a young guy below the age of about twenty five

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<v Speaker 5>or twenty six, there's no reason in the world this

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<v Speaker 5>day and age, they don't return to full potential. He

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<v Speaker 5>was dominant when he was a freshman, and you can

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<v Speaker 5>see the size all that stuff. To me, this, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>is it the turning point of the draft? Probably? I

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<v Speaker 5>mean it's probably what the draft. It can turn the

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<v Speaker 5>draft either into great or if he's not good, it's eh.

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<v Speaker 5>But all second round picks are short of a crapshoot.

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<v Speaker 5>If you get a guy who you think might be dominant,

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<v Speaker 5>there another wrong with a pick on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Front to me, when as well risk it of course,

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<v Speaker 2>and as he's mentioned, obviously a hard worker, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think now he trusts that. I think you mentioned earlier

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of that trust factor. You're not sure if

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<v Speaker 2>your need's going to give. So now that he has

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<v Speaker 2>that back, hopefully he'll be able to get back to

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<v Speaker 2>his freshman year form. We also heard from his former

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<v Speaker 2>defensive coordinator now linebacker coach here Matt House. He was

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<v Speaker 2>at LA of course three picks from LSU coming here,

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<v Speaker 2>but that House actually weighed in a little bit on

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Thomas because going up against him in practice every day,

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<v Speaker 2>it was certainly difficult.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>BT's got I mean, really good length, obviously elite speed.

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<v Speaker 8>He's a matchup problem and he can go up and

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<v Speaker 8>get the ball. So you know, in particular last year

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<v Speaker 8>at LSU when we were dB short, he was a tough,

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<v Speaker 8>tough matchup.

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<v Speaker 2>Johnn I know we haven't seen a ton from Binding

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas yet, but it's exciting to see that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>have that option for Trevor and also a wide receiver

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<v Speaker 2>that can maybe grow with Trevor a little bit right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's had some veteran presence, but now a younger player,

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<v Speaker 2>this drafted hero'll be here for the next however many

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<v Speaker 2>years to grow with him.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he comes into a nice situation. He doesn't have

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<v Speaker 5>to be the best receiver immediately. Christian Kirk's perfectly capable

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<v Speaker 5>of be in it. He didn't have to be the

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<v Speaker 5>go to guy Evan ingers for the cable doing that,

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<v Speaker 5>so he can immediately give the team a wrinkle and

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<v Speaker 5>have time to develop. I've said many times since he

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<v Speaker 5>got drafted. There before the drift, there were three elite receivers,

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<v Speaker 5>and out of the rest of them, the analysts thought

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<v Speaker 5>that he had the best chance to eventually develop into one.

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<v Speaker 5>The mean, he's going to be it immediately. He can

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<v Speaker 5>give them Brian Deep the threat, jump ball threat while

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<v Speaker 5>he's developing into an overall player.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I shared this after the draft, But to Cortez Hankton,

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<v Speaker 4>who was an undrafted rookie year back in two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>and three, is his position coach and was his position

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<v Speaker 4>coaching offensive coordinated at LSU, told me he's the most

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<v Speaker 4>physically gifted receiver he's ever coached, and he obviously coached

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<v Speaker 4>at Georgia before LSU, so that tells you the caliber

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<v Speaker 4>of athletes that he's accustomed to.

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<v Speaker 6>Said, he's one of my guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Guy will get after it, but physically gifted in a

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<v Speaker 4>way that you just haven't.

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<v Speaker 6>You have difficulty drawing it up. It just shows up like.

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<v Speaker 5>That, and again it's routes on air, but he just

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<v Speaker 5>makes everything looks easy. I mean, you have things that

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<v Speaker 5>are hard for other players trying to make the NFL

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<v Speaker 5>as without you thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, something that Howse said is that it's he's a

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<v Speaker 4>difficult matchup, and we're a matchup league where you're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to create this matches.

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<v Speaker 6>It's different than in college football.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know they're gonna find that other teams or

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<v Speaker 4>other teams are gonna find that it's tough to have

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<v Speaker 4>a corner who is as big and long as he is,

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<v Speaker 4>and if he's as fast and physical as we've heard kai,

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<v Speaker 4>it'll be a great pack.

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<v Speaker 2>Excited to see him and Trevor kind of figure it

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<v Speaker 2>out and get going. That'll be definitely fun to see.

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<v Speaker 2>And also we should mention in the wide receiver room

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<v Speaker 2>Jarvis Landry and for a tryout. So he was part

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<v Speaker 2>of that rookie mini campu miss last year due to injury,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's been around for quite some time, and he

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<v Speaker 2>talked a little bit about what it was important for

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<v Speaker 2>him and just coming back to football.

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<v Speaker 8>It was stressful. It was stressful, you know, I learned

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<v Speaker 8>a lot about the man, you know, and getting healthy

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<v Speaker 8>and things like that. Spending more time with family kept

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<v Speaker 8>me ground it. You know, had a good support system.

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<v Speaker 8>But you know, it's always it's always good to be

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<v Speaker 8>back out here.

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<v Speaker 5>John.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we see from from Jews out there?

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<v Speaker 2>Because obviously Jarvis Landry has been around, he's done it

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<v Speaker 2>for a while. He was with injury and to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of come back with that appreciation, but also the skill

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<v Speaker 2>set had he has.

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<v Speaker 5>You could tell who the veteran was. He was precise

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<v Speaker 5>to me, he looked quick, particularly for his age. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't necessarily know that they brought him in thinking

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<v Speaker 5>we have to sign him immediately in order to have

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<v Speaker 5>him on the team. I think they wanted to give

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<v Speaker 5>him the opportunity. They wanted to see what it was

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<v Speaker 5>and then perhaps as time moves on, now you know

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit more about a guy. Doug said beforehand, Look,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a tryout and that's what it is. Cold he

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<v Speaker 5>would you feel fine putting Jarvis Lander in an NFL

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<v Speaker 5>game right now and having him get you through a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of weeks where somebody else isn't isn't performing for

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<v Speaker 5>you as an available Sure? Is he a frontline starter.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm not sure anybody thinks that right now.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a young man's game, and it's hard for guys

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<v Speaker 4>who have been to five Pro Bowls to let go.

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<v Speaker 4>And clearly he has decided and he's not ready to

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<v Speaker 4>let this one go, So it made sense for him

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<v Speaker 4>to come. And I would think that at some point

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<v Speaker 4>later in the season if they don't like any of

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<v Speaker 4>the five undrafted rookies that they signed, right they stacked

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<v Speaker 4>up on these guys for camp and you have an

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<v Speaker 4>injury like last year with a Jones right where you

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<v Speaker 4>were just you were lacking any sort of significant depth

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<v Speaker 4>at that position and it hurt the passing game. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>then you've got a guy on speed dial if he's

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<v Speaker 4>not anywhere else that you can go and bring in,

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<v Speaker 4>and you have a book on him now. But they

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<v Speaker 4>went heavy in.

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<v Speaker 5>The pain.

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<v Speaker 6>On wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 4>They're going for it, and so those young guys come

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<v Speaker 4>in as developmental guys. And really that's where the roster

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<v Speaker 4>spots are. The practice squad spots are in Jacksonville for receivers.

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<v Speaker 4>With that room as expensive and as draft capital has

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<v Speaker 4>been put into it.

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<v Speaker 5>And Jarvis also made the comment he has to figure

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<v Speaker 5>out if this is something he wants to do sure

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<v Speaker 5>and completely commit to it. I'm not to say that

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<v Speaker 5>privy those conversations, but you know I at this stage

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<v Speaker 5>of careers, that's the verbid you hear is is and

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<v Speaker 5>I say, oh my goodness, I have to go get this.

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<v Speaker 5>It's I have to find the right fit. I have

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<v Speaker 5>to decide this is what I wanna do. Uh So

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<v Speaker 5>that's what a tryout you Well.

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<v Speaker 4>If you didn't, you probably couldn't next, right, being one

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<v Speaker 4>year out, two years out not not not as many

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<v Speaker 4>opportunities for those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>We've also seen that before though obviously you know veteran

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<v Speaker 2>players coming in around training camp, getting into training camp,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe like this is kind of f going a couple

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<v Speaker 2>games in, like figuring out this is kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>end of things. So whether that'll be the situation for him,

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<v Speaker 2>or whether things will work out and he'll get picked

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<v Speaker 2>up either here or somewhere else, we'll remains to be seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay with us here on Jagsam though. Coming up, we're

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<v Speaker 1>It's officially licensed everything. Oh zone rolling in. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get our questions answered by John.

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<v Speaker 2>He's so wise, he has all of that wisdom in

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<v Speaker 2>there and that nugget of top.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for sharing with us, John.

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<v Speaker 5>No problem, make no sense.

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<v Speaker 6>Any sarcasm there?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh that's second.

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<v Speaker 2>When Mike from azas he has a question about Gabe

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<v Speaker 2>Davis's injury that Doug alluded to in his press conference

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<v Speaker 2>last week, he says, is Gabe Davis still recovering from

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<v Speaker 2>an injury that he suffered while he was still with

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<v Speaker 2>the Buffalo Bills. Why would you when you sign a

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<v Speaker 2>free agent? Isn't it pending up passing a physical? Did

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<v Speaker 2>the Jags not check gave out physically? Why wouldn't you

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<v Speaker 2>disclose the injury at that time? There's a lot of questions,

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<v Speaker 2>more than one question in this or is this a

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<v Speaker 2>new injury that no one wants to take the blame for.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm confused.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Mike came in, and Mike came in kind of hot. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>Gabe Davis was hurt in the last game of the

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<v Speaker 5>season last year and didn't play in the playoffs. They

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<v Speaker 5>knew it. I don't think it's as uncommon as perhaps

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<v Speaker 5>Mike believed, and they knew this is gonna be the

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<v Speaker 5>situation coming in. H. He's a veteran. Yes, they have

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<v Speaker 5>an idea where the knee injury is. It wasn't disclosed

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<v Speaker 5>because there was nothing to disclose, so H, I anticipate

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<v Speaker 5>that he'll be ready to go in training camp. And uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know Darius Williams first year here a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>years back, remember, didn't participate until I think training camp. Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>it's pretty common.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric Harp said as well, the background injury, So it's

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<v Speaker 2>very common.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's check it.

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<v Speaker 5>As I said to Mike, breathe, it's met.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, We're okay. We're getting a little lamp up,

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<v Speaker 1>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean from Oakley, if wanted to know, when will be

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<v Speaker 2>the first opportunity for the Jaguars to practice that new

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<v Speaker 2>kickoff rule simulating game conditions obviously, because they can't go

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<v Speaker 2>against each other right now at this stage.

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<v Speaker 5>Well practice they'll get a chance to simulate it. And

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<v Speaker 5>you know there's different levels they can do. In OTAs,

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<v Speaker 5>they can do everything except hit each other while doing it.

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<v Speaker 5>In training camp, they can get helmets on and actually

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<v Speaker 5>hit each other while doing it, and then you can

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<v Speaker 5>really simulate in a preseason game. This one, to me,

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<v Speaker 5>Brian feels like they're going to have some theories on

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<v Speaker 5>how it's going to look. Everybody's going to have their approach,

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<v Speaker 5>and then starting in preseason is when you're gonna see

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<v Speaker 5>what the league always does, which is, hey, this guy's

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<v Speaker 5>doing this, and start copying it. It will homogenize once

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<v Speaker 5>the preseason games.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, you have thirty two different special teams coordinators

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<v Speaker 4>sixty four if you count their assistant special teams score.

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<v Speaker 5>In ninety six if you count the other it's right.

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<v Speaker 4>And they all have different ideas and they've collaborated to help.

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<v Speaker 6>The league come to the conclusion of what the rule

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<v Speaker 6>could be.

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<v Speaker 4>But everybody's going to have a different spin on it,

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<v Speaker 4>so it'll be interesting to see a month or two

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<v Speaker 4>into the season who's really good at it.

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<v Speaker 5>But it was an interesting question because there has been

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of conversation as soon as this thing came

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<v Speaker 5>into being. Remember it wasn't put in until the owners meeting,

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<v Speaker 5>so they really didn't attack free agency that much with

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<v Speaker 5>this thing in mind. So all of a sudden, the

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<v Speaker 5>draft becomes a and they had to talk amongst themselves

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<v Speaker 5>and figure out what everybody else is doing. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 5>different special teams coaches are talking to each other, but

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<v Speaker 5>then not given away too much of what they're going

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<v Speaker 5>to do.

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<v Speaker 9>So it's going to be an interesting rules change. I'm

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<v Speaker 9>excited about it because we all should be. The kickoffs

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<v Speaker 9>went away and this is a clever, innovative way to

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<v Speaker 9>bring it back. And if this goes well, maybe they'll

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<v Speaker 9>come up with the way that is that the XFL does.

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<v Speaker 9>The on tide kick was fourth and ten from your

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<v Speaker 9>twenty five high risk, you know, because on tide kicks

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<v Speaker 9>have gone away too, and that was always a fun

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<v Speaker 9>part of the game when games got close.

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<v Speaker 6>Hopefully this leads to something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have to see how the things go, but I

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<v Speaker 2>am excited to see it in game action for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Our final question for you John a little bit broader

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<v Speaker 2>of a question from Bob and Bobsville. Of course, confidence

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<v Speaker 2>is key, particularly in the NFL. Confidence grows through success,

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<v Speaker 2>but even the most confident player can be shaken by

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<v Speaker 2>too many failures. It takes a season to get used

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<v Speaker 2>to the NFL and meaningfully contribute. Why does so many

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<v Speaker 2>teams put rookies or young players and sit your in

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<v Speaker 2>which they're likely to fail.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, this was sort of a quarterbacks based question, but

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<v Speaker 5>I think I think it sort of applies to other

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<v Speaker 5>positions as well. Yeah, you would love I think most teams,

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<v Speaker 5>most coaches would tell you most rookies, it would be

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<v Speaker 5>great if they had a year to develop, and realistically,

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<v Speaker 5>that's sort of what happens. Everybody wants to see rookies

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<v Speaker 5>contribute immediately, and some do. But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 5>if there's what you know, three hundred and fifty players

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<v Speaker 5>in the rookie class, you're gonna get a few that

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<v Speaker 5>make a huge impact. Most of them are really ready

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<v Speaker 5>to be big time players or you know, real contributions

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<v Speaker 5>at the end of the season. Why don't they wait?

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<v Speaker 5>Because it's a win now league.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and for way back, the cyburkept change the game.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>It used to be you bring guys in and they

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<v Speaker 4>could play behind an established veteran. But now with as

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<v Speaker 4>much money is committed to players, you can't keep all

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<v Speaker 4>your veterans. Free agency takes them away. And so now

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<v Speaker 4>in the last three years since free agency has become

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<v Speaker 4>a really important part of building a team, they need

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<v Speaker 4>rookies to step in because they lose guys.

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<v Speaker 5>And the dynamic has become the way it's set up now.

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<v Speaker 5>It's necessary, but it also causes way too much early

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<v Speaker 5>criticism of a lot of young players. Now the development

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<v Speaker 5>that used to take place sort of behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 5>takes place as rookies. So whenever there is a mistake, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>it's the worst he's the worst player I've ever seen,

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<v Speaker 5>when in reality, a lot of these guys always go

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<v Speaker 5>back to Reggie Wayne, who played seven games as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 5>did not give any indication that he was going to

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<v Speaker 5>be good, and then by his third or fourth years

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<v Speaker 5>a Pro Bowl and it might be in the Hall

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<v Speaker 5>of Fame. Reggie wasn't a bad player as a rookie.

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<v Speaker 5>He was a young player who needed some more time.

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<v Speaker 5>So that we now get to watch the rough draft,

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<v Speaker 5>and it can be rough on these guys when they're

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<v Speaker 5>criticized for.

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<v Speaker 2>It, certainly as it's not an easy thing and taking

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<v Speaker 2>that time to get used to the NFL. As we're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing those rookies get in the building this week their

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<v Speaker 2>first week kind of practicing off season with some of

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<v Speaker 2>the vet players, so we'll get to see what that

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<v Speaker 2>looks like in OTAs.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with us on jags Aam.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right here after the break. Welcome back into

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<v Speaker 2>jags Am here if we're getting ready for OTAs next

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<v Speaker 2>week and kind of finally getting back into football a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. I did want to bring back our jags

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<v Speaker 2>Am off season to do list cause they started this

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months ago. That's just what we know.

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<v Speaker 2>We've discussed on JAGSAM them some things we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>go over cause I do want to give them credit.

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<v Speaker 2>We can check a couple of things off. I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a list person. I have the post sits all this,

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<v Speaker 2>so I want to keep track of things. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Allen figured out. That was the big number one

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<v Speaker 2>thing for me for sure. Addressing the line issues. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>have to see how this ends up, but they seem

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<v Speaker 2>to have addressed it as much as they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>address it. They have a new center in the building,

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<v Speaker 2>signing Ezra Cleveland long term and whatever they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>try to do with some of the backups in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of rookies and what they had last year in Cooper Hodges,

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<v Speaker 2>adding some depth on defense. We did see some additions there,

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<v Speaker 2>some big additions there, and then what I have left

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<v Speaker 2>is pay Trevor question mark. As we saw that deal

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<v Speaker 2>with Jared Goff got done yesterday, so maybe now Trevor's

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<v Speaker 2>looking at that, maybe coming up in the next week months,

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<v Speaker 2>however many days, and then getting that new defense up

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<v Speaker 2>to speed with their new defensive staff and defensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys, if you want anything on the list, let

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<v Speaker 2>me know. You know, I love to stay organized.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, so far, so good, and I think both things

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<v Speaker 5>you too, you know, get new defensive to speed's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>happy is what they're gonna be doing the next few months.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd be surprised if Trevor doesn't get down before the season.

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<v Speaker 4>But we'll say, I keep hearing that they're working at

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<v Speaker 4>it and that it's likely to happen, but no date.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, well, we'll be keeping an eye and our ears

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<v Speaker 2>open for that as well. Next week OTAs and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get that schedule lease that's coming out on Wednesday, So

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<v Speaker 2>lots to talk about. Make sure you check in with

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<v Speaker 2>us next week here on jags Am