WEBVTT - DPS Hour 3

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio Final Hour. In this Tuesday, the popular Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Wright Fox Sports First Things First will join us and

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<v Speaker 1>probably take a flamethrower to the nets Kyrie Irving and

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant to win an NBA title. I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people believe that you need veteran talent, and

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<v Speaker 1>to a certain extent, I guess that's true. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to trust a young player to lead you to a

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<v Speaker 1>title when they get to the postseason. But that hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>slowed down some of the younger players in Round one,

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Edwards, Jordan Pool, Brandon Ingram Tyrese Maxie. They've made

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<v Speaker 1>an impact in the first round. And historically it's tough

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<v Speaker 1>for young players to accomplish something when they get into

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<v Speaker 1>the postseason. But athletes are beginning to get elite level

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<v Speaker 1>coaching at a much earlier age. Look at Nasser Cunningham.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the number one overall recruit for the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four recruiting class. He's decided to commit to the

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<v Speaker 1>Overtime Elite Elopmental program, so that gives him access to

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<v Speaker 1>top tier coaching at a very young age. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what his development's going to be like. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go in and be a semi pro or

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<v Speaker 1>be a pro. And he's part of the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four recruiting class, and maybe this year's NBA playoffs are

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<v Speaker 1>a sneak peek at the potential impact of these young players,

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<v Speaker 1>what they can have as they move forward. We tend

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<v Speaker 1>to skew to the veteran players. You know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>get deeper into the postseason, the younger players are going

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<v Speaker 1>to act like younger players. But you know factor this

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<v Speaker 1>in as well. Brandon Ingram has been in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 1>I think six years. He's twenty four. Jason Tatum he's

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<v Speaker 1>what twenty five. This is where you go back to

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<v Speaker 1>a previous generation. Guys were coming into the NBA at

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two and twenty three. Now they're coming in at eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you start to look at them and the

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<v Speaker 1>maturation process, normally it would be if you got into

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<v Speaker 1>the league at twenty two twenty three, you might start

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<v Speaker 1>to mature and show that greatness when you're twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight. I mean Michael Jordan was twenty three in

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<v Speaker 1>his rookie year. Larry Byrd, who went to Indiana and

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<v Speaker 1>then he sat out a year and then went to

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana State. Larry was probably twenty three twenty four when

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<v Speaker 1>he got into the NBA, And it's just a different

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<v Speaker 1>process of what you have these young players coming in,

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<v Speaker 1>but they get a lot of playing time at an

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<v Speaker 1>early age, a young age. So I think you have

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<v Speaker 1>to look at these younger players differently than we have

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. What happened last night Jason Tatum and

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Brown. Tatum had twenty nine Jalen Brown added twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two as the Celtics beat the Nets, sweeping Brooklyn in

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<v Speaker 1>the first round. Kevin Durant lost in the first round

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time since twenty ten. That was his

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<v Speaker 1>first playoffs series. He had won nine consecutive first round

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<v Speaker 1>series prior to this year. Sounded like a stat of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, the mark stat of the day, bust out

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, stat of the day here comes that

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<v Speaker 1>what stat of the day? Here is Kevin Durant talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the chemistry that they tried to develop in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a lot of stuff that happened throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>series that just didn't work in our favor. But I

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<v Speaker 1>like the way we tried to come together towards the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the season and salvage what was lost, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, guys being injured, guy's being traded. Just you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So once we finally got together, we had a mission

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<v Speaker 1>and wanted to make the playoffs and see what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of noise we can make. And we didn't make any noise,

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<v Speaker 1>but we got to the playoff. Oh you made noise.

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<v Speaker 1>It was called fud. That's the noise that you made

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<v Speaker 1>as you fell to earth. There Kyrie Irving, in case

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<v Speaker 1>you're curious what he felt about this season, yeh, he

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<v Speaker 1>said that a lot of us were haters with the NTS.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I know so many people wanted to see

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<v Speaker 1>us fail at this juncture, you know, picked us as contenders,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, have so much to say at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just using that as fuel for the summer.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, hopefully we don't run into any barriers and

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<v Speaker 1>we could just start fresh, you know, be realistic with

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<v Speaker 1>our own expectations and live with our team results rather

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<v Speaker 1>than you know, being the polarization of kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>media scrumb and having our names be dragged, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for a series that naturally happens in people's careers. You know, definitely, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have had his motivation going into the summertime. Now, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see the nets out of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who he's talking about. To me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>good TV. Did you need motivation to win? So now

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<v Speaker 1>you have motivation in the arm season? Are you haters

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<v Speaker 1>out there? Did he say this three months ago? I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to have the nets in the playoffs. I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to see kd How about you prove

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<v Speaker 1>everybody wrong this year because the U had haters because

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<v Speaker 1>you know your stand so on getting vaccinated and what

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<v Speaker 1>that was doing to your team and your good buddy

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant. But you chose that, Kadi chose Steve Nash

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<v Speaker 1>to be his head coach. You guys were okay with

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<v Speaker 1>James Harden coming in, then you were okay with him

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<v Speaker 1>going out, and you're okay with Ben Simmons coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, you know, apparently we're okay with bringing in

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<v Speaker 1>Blake Griffin, who's you're younger than I am. I think yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>seen people do seem to be taking a victory lap

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<v Speaker 1>today though for some reason, I have no animosity towards

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<v Speaker 1>him a lot. I don't know that Kyrie was addressing

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<v Speaker 1>you specifically in that sound bite, but there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people in the media that are like, what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? So I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>that unrealistic for them to be like, yeah, people didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like us. There's a certain amount of unlikability to that

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<v Speaker 1>Nets team. Yeah, they're hard to root for, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are good content everything. Most media members would say, who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you content stories? There's always something there.

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<v Speaker 1>They certainly will. I'd love to have the Lakers still around.

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<v Speaker 1>Great content there. But you know, do we root against

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<v Speaker 1>super teams? I guess we do. It feels like that's

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<v Speaker 1>a built in aversion that you have too. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do it the right way, you know, when when

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<v Speaker 1>Kadie joined Golden State, all of a sudden, Golden State

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<v Speaker 1>did not become a fun story. Hey, that was all

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<v Speaker 1>homegrown Hebron and Kadi. Yeah see, and especially the you

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<v Speaker 1>know super team guy that you know won with Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>then blew up the Celtics somehow, then went to the

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<v Speaker 1>Nets and messed everything up there because he wouldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>the vaccine like there's a million storylines where people are

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<v Speaker 1>are on Kyrie. Yeah, and rightfully so, because he's saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we were tired at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you shouldn't be. We weren't able to gel it's

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<v Speaker 1>because of you. So those are things I had problems with.

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<v Speaker 1>But it just feels like there was always something with Kyrie. Kyrie,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, taking ownership of you really helped derail this season. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the experts or analysts don't want to be wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people thought, oh, the Nets are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win it all, Like the Nets barely got into

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<v Speaker 1>the postseason, but Vegas had them as the favorite still

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<v Speaker 1>and I kept thinking, do they watch them play? And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how good the Celtics are. They were

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<v Speaker 1>a great story, great turnaround since first week of January.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody better. You know, they won the first round series

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<v Speaker 1>against a damaged Nets team. I don't know what that

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<v Speaker 1>team is going to be. Like, do I want to

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<v Speaker 1>sign up for Kyrie long term? I don't, But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what Brooklyn's options are. Philadelphia has got to

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<v Speaker 1>decide what they want to do with James Hart. At

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<v Speaker 1>least Kyrie can play at a really high level. Still, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if James Harden can. And I thought

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<v Speaker 1>this was interesting a comment that was made about Joe

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<v Speaker 1>ellen Bead had this to say about James Harden and

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<v Speaker 1>getting him motivated. Yeah. I've been saying all seasons since

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<v Speaker 1>he got here. You know, he just needs to build

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<v Speaker 1>aggressive and he needs to be himself. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's you know, that's not with him my job.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I was probably on coach on to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>talk to him and tell him to you know, take

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<v Speaker 1>more shots, especially if they're gonna guard me to wit

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<v Speaker 1>I've been guarding, um, but uh, you know that's really

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<v Speaker 1>not my job. Could you imagine at any point in

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<v Speaker 1>James Harden's career that somebody would have to say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody got to motivate him to take more shots. Yeah. See,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also tough because it dude has just been

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<v Speaker 1>cold as you wouldn't believe. I mean, telling the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's four of eleven, like, what are you doing? Keep shooting?

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<v Speaker 1>It feels weird, Yes, but I still have to have

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<v Speaker 1>him shoot. Because your best player has a fractured thumb,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to shoot. Harden took eleven shots. He takes

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<v Speaker 1>eleven and in the first quarter. I he just needs

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<v Speaker 1>to get in shape. He got to decide if he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be a great player, like an old time player,

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<v Speaker 1>not just one of the great regular season players of

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<v Speaker 1>all time, because that's what he is. He's a mystery.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a disappointment in the postseason. He doesn't come up big.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is when they I mean, if them b

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't hit that shot in the previous game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a different, different series. Philly could be bounced

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<v Speaker 1>after the first round. I mean it's it's it's that

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<v Speaker 1>tenuous here, yeah, Mark, And so if they lose, does

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<v Speaker 1>Doc go to the Lakers? Coming up next? Man? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that your sports entered ties? It was another show

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<v Speaker 1>on another network, But yes, okay, it'd be h greeney on,

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<v Speaker 1>get up all undisputed? Undisputed? What is Lebron think of Doc?

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next? Oh? Okay, what did the Cowboys think

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<v Speaker 1>about Doc? What did the Cowboys think of Doc Rivers

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<v Speaker 1>coaching the Lakers? And we'll coach k be on the

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<v Speaker 1>bench as well. That's next. Now, you don't want coach

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<v Speaker 1>k in there. He doesn't he doesn't get clicks. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go lebron if, Doc Rivers the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>and somehow Baker Mayfield, Yeah, Mark Brady also, oh Tom Brady?

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<v Speaker 1>M okay. Does Tom Brady wish he was still in

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<v Speaker 1>Boston to watch these Celtics? M yeah, you gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>clicks there, all right. So that was the NBA last night.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was six years ago tonight. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how you're going to celebrate, but it was six

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<v Speaker 1>years ago tonight. Draft Laramie Tunsil came into the draft

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<v Speaker 1>as the top offensive lineman out of all miss going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a top ten pick, and then, all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, prior to the start of the draft, ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes before we're watching as there was a video that

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<v Speaker 1>was leaked His Instagram social media was hacked, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>in an apartment while he's still in college, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a mask on like he's a fighter pilot and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bong that I guess that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So nobody, the guys who were hosting the draft didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know this was going on. We did, and we're thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this guy's going to get drafted. Does

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<v Speaker 1>he know that his social media has been hacked? Then

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<v Speaker 1>his agent has to call the teams, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>drops to the Dolphins I think at thirteen and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>teams Tennessee took a tackle. One other team was looking

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<v Speaker 1>at taking a tackle Baltimore. They passed on Laramie Tounsil

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<v Speaker 1>after this, so he lost some money. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>similar of sorts to UH, who was the Warren Sap.

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<v Speaker 1>Warren Sap dropped two years ago. But but Tunsil we

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<v Speaker 1>saw something play out live and it's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>where you're going, this can't be happening. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>meets with the media afterwards and it's like, hey, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel and he's like great, you know, walking

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<v Speaker 1>across the stage shaking the commissioner's hand. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins. And then no, no, how do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>about the video coming out of you with a mask

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<v Speaker 1>that you're taking bong hits out of Uh said he

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<v Speaker 1>was hacked. That didn't that didn't explain that you still

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<v Speaker 1>have a mask on taking bong hits. Yeah I got hacked.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait were you wearing a mask taking bong hits? Well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I got hacked. When he takes that mask off

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<v Speaker 1>that he takes smilest man, Oh like I did love

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<v Speaker 1>this dude, d little wild moment. He had a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>smile on his face with that bong hit that he

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<v Speaker 1>did getting drafted by the Dolphins. Sure it did, yes, Todd.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we get to pick thirteen, does everybody take

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<v Speaker 1>a bong hit? If you're an appropriate age? It's not

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<v Speaker 1>the way to sell. Shouldn't you shouldn't you're not? Or

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<v Speaker 1>should we should know? Yeah? Yes, bo I just went

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<v Speaker 1>went back and watched a clip in the NFL network

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Eyes and is sitting there announcing it. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Laramie Tunsel knows what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>around him right now, because he's sitting there without a

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<v Speaker 1>phone in his hand, and his agent has left the

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<v Speaker 1>table to go do his work and talk to the teams.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a wild scene. I think. I text Rich Eisen

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<v Speaker 1>that night just to say, you know, have you have

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<v Speaker 1>you seen the video of Laramie Tunsel because you're watching

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<v Speaker 1>and you keep waiting for the mothership or NFL network

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<v Speaker 1>to to all of a sudden say hey, there's this

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<v Speaker 1>video out. We knew it before those covering the draft dude,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you wondered where he was going to go.

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<v Speaker 1>That was six years ago tonight, since then Tonso was

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami. Then he went to Houston, and the Dolphins,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, are still getting draft picks from Houston for

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<v Speaker 1>Laramie Tounso, who's turned down to be a good player,

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<v Speaker 1>but he should have gone higher. Oh, thank you, John,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you three? Yeah? Good, all right, thank you? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>some teams. Do you think that it happened now, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be like it happened Thursday night to a draftee.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay deal, Yeah, it'd be almost comedy more than real reaction. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember when I had a source how many

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<v Speaker 1>years ago? Is this where I told you that I

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<v Speaker 1>was hearing that the players were going to say to

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<v Speaker 1>the owners, that will let you test for HGH if

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<v Speaker 1>you basically get rid of testing for marijuana. And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember when I had that that because h has been

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<v Speaker 1>and probably still is very prevalent in the NFL. And

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<v Speaker 1>I go back to the plane trip I took with

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who said that I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>number one seventy percent of his teammates probably on HDH,

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<v Speaker 1>but the fact that they would, hey, you can test

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<v Speaker 1>for HGH, just let us have our pot and I

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<v Speaker 1>think the NFL has come a long way in how

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<v Speaker 1>they view that now, and I don't know if it now.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's a quarterback, then it's different if all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, one of these quarterbacks who could be taken

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round takes off a mask after doing

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<v Speaker 1>bong hits, and you go, that's not the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>I want on my team. I mean, Laramy Tunsil is

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<v Speaker 1>an offensive lineman, all right, I'm okay with that now.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not dealing with a heavy machinery like a quarterback is.

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<v Speaker 1>But if that would happen Thursday night, probably wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>that big of a deal. All right. Our good buddy

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<v Speaker 1>What's the poll question and did we change it an

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<v Speaker 1>hour two or hour three? Well, we've actually had two

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<v Speaker 1>poll questions going for most of the show. Okay, double dipping, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're double dipping today. Would you rather miss the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>or get swept in the first round? Well, this is

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because sixty five percent of our Twitter audience says

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<v Speaker 1>miss the playoffs, whereas the Dan Patrick dot com poll

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<v Speaker 1>question that audience, yeah, fifty fifty. Well let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>Nick right that first thing's first co host on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports one. Would you rather be the Lakers or the Nets? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>those are two different questions. I think making the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>is better than missing the playoffs. However, I'd rather be

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers than the Nets because the Lakers, you at

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<v Speaker 1>least had time to process that this was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a disaster. The Nets were the Vegas favorites to

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<v Speaker 1>win the conference fourteen days ago. The Nets had many

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<v Speaker 1>of our colleagues buying into this nonsense. It's five days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Nets are a bigger failure, a bigger disappointment.

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<v Speaker 1>But I they did, you know, so the Nets it

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<v Speaker 1>was worse. But in the vagaries of missed the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>or get swept around one. I'd rather get swept around one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to get there. It's similar to I'd rather,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, make the finals and lose than lose before

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<v Speaker 1>the finals and then say oh, never lost. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's about the different guy. I'll get to more NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking about six years ago tonight. It was

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<v Speaker 1>what Laramie Tunsil with the masks. Yeah, the bong hits mask. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was wondering what it would be like to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Thursday night, if that would happen like six

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<v Speaker 1>years later, how do you think we would view you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say I don't want to say a quarterback, because

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<v Speaker 1>we view a quarterback differently, but let's say it's an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman and that video came out. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the media. I don't think it'd be viewed that differently.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really, yeah, well he dropped because yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he'd dropping in today. I think I think because there

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<v Speaker 1>were so many It wasn't just a gas mask bong.

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<v Speaker 1>It was that it was from his Twitter account and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, wait, he's being extorted. Oh, this seems messy

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<v Speaker 1>and scary. Yeah, I don't think listen, I understand that

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<v Speaker 1>in most municipalities that are listening right now, you can

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<v Speaker 1>smoke a joint on the street. These days, I still

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<v Speaker 1>feel like there is still a bit of a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at some social morays where it hasn't been fully accepted,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you on your show, Dan, you guys have drank beers.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Yeah, I've seen you do it. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>would you ever smoke a joint on the air. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you would, even if you were. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you're a weed smoker or not. But regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>like I still think there is there is still some

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<v Speaker 1>stigma attached to it. I think he'd still drop quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. Yeah, I just I just don't see that

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<v Speaker 1>happening now as much because the NFL is relaxed it's

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<v Speaker 1>standards or whatever on marijuana. So I mean, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>hear about these players. I don't really think they he

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<v Speaker 1>dropped because people were like, oh, he's a pothead. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he dropped because they were like a character issues

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<v Speaker 1>a bad judgment, who's surrounding him? And I think those

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<v Speaker 1>same things, like, let me put it like this, there's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of stigma. I don't think surrounding consensual

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<v Speaker 1>sex between adults. But if on Draft night somebody's Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>posted a sex video of themselves, I think they dropped.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be like, oh, we're worried he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be having sex. I think it'd be like, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell's going on here? So I just look at

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<v Speaker 1>differently fair point. Let's move on. O listen, you bring

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<v Speaker 1>me here for hard truth. I thought we were ranking

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<v Speaker 1>players in NBA history. Instead we're talking. You may even

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<v Speaker 1>talk about sex videos. Yeah, you don't need to say

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<v Speaker 1>hard truth. The NETS situation as they move forward. You

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<v Speaker 1>got the Kyrie, you know, Max Deal, Ben Simmons, Katie

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<v Speaker 1>getting older and did look a little older with the

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<v Speaker 1>younger guys in Boston. All right, yeah, okay, I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>for Kyrie. By the way, the first year of his

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<v Speaker 1>professional life and he gave himself a raise in a promotion.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that, Kyrie asked after the game. Kyrie signs

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<v Speaker 1>in Boston's making around thirty four million a year. A

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<v Speaker 1>year into it, He's like, by the way, I'm co

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<v Speaker 1>head coach. It's like Steve Nash is here, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the coach. Katie's kind of the coach. A

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<v Speaker 1>year later, He's like, Okay today, this year, I barely

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<v Speaker 1>showed up for work. I was terrible in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's where I've decided. I'm gonna make about forty five

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<v Speaker 1>million a year and I'm co general manager. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>build the roster with Joe Si and Sean Marks. This

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<v Speaker 1>dude is delusional, man, delusional. I'll ask your audience put

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<v Speaker 1>this on your poll question. What's your favorite Kyrie Irving

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<v Speaker 1>playoff moment that doesn't involve Lebron James. Oh wait, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's in Round one, stomping on that stupid

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<v Speaker 1>lepper Con. I think that's as good as it's ever

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<v Speaker 1>gotten for him. But they're stuck with him. They got

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<v Speaker 1>to pay him this money. Yeah, I feel I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel terribly for Durant. I mean I do, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. But yeah, I mean they're screwed. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they are screwed. Man, Like, really, what choice do you have?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't let them walk? Yeah, it'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll sign him and then trade him. I reported nine

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<v Speaker 1>months ago, and I was correct on it that when

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<v Speaker 1>the Nets were considering trading Kyrie, he made it very

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<v Speaker 1>clear you trade me if you want, but I'll retire.

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<v Speaker 1>That kind of hurts your trade market. So what are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna do? I know our colleague Stephen A has

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<v Speaker 1>been saying he would pay him the max, but only

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:08.560
<v Speaker 1>one year at a time. Harry ain't gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>one year deal. I mean kind of like they listen Anne,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, now that he's COGM, I think he

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<v Speaker 1>negotiates with himself. I think he says, Kyrie opened your

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:19.439
<v Speaker 1>third eye. What contract would you like? Like a three

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:21.680
<v Speaker 1>years less player option to the max? Like, you know what, guy,

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I think we can do that. Hope to show up

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<v Speaker 1>for more than thirty games. So what do you do

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:28.760
<v Speaker 1>with Ben Simmons? Feels like you're stuck with him as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, all right? Can I I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>this is a defense of Ben Simmons. Can I can

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<v Speaker 1>I soft launch a take sure? I believe Ben simmons

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<v Speaker 1>back is truly hurt, and I believe he didn't suffer

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<v Speaker 1>a back injury. I think we know enough about the mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Psycho sw yes, stress and anxiety can cause ulcers, can

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<v Speaker 1>cause back pain, among other things, So I don't this

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:03.639
<v Speaker 1>idea he's faking an injury. I do not buy them.

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I believe that his back hurts, that he feels like

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 1>he has an injury, but I also don't think he

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.399
<v Speaker 1>ever suffered an injury. That does that make sense? And

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's like a scurless allegation. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that tracks to me. I do think he

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.360
<v Speaker 1>wants to play basketball at some point, but I think

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:23.159
<v Speaker 1>he's so deep in his own head. I think it

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:26.120
<v Speaker 1>scares them, and I think it is causing the back game.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think the Nets handled it so poorly. Instead

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<v Speaker 1>of having one voice, and Steve Nash should have said

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 1>at every press conference, Ben is not playing, Ben is

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>not playing. Now. Ben didn't help out by saying, you

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 1>know I can't play in game three, but you know

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 1>there's a reasonable chance so I could play in game four.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, one voice because you're not sure who's telling

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you the truth and who's not. I didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sympathy for Nash this year because I thought

0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 1>he did a truly terrible job, But in this one

0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel terribly for as he supposed to do, and

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Nash was pretty consistent with it. But then Wojer Shams

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<v Speaker 1>would be like, hey, Ben, Simmons targeting this date, targeting

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that date be like, what the hell's going on here? Uh? Yeah,

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that that's a mess um So I don't know. I mean,

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>who would lead that I missed the full year? I

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>have a theory. I have another theory. Oh boy, this

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 1>is okay? You know what my true north is? Take integrity,

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 1>even if this gets me some angry texts. I don't

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 1>know this and I can't prove this obviously. I wonder

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:40.120
<v Speaker 1>if people close to Ben we're trying to add pressure

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:42.120
<v Speaker 1>in a positive way to get him on the court.

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense that if that, if it's okay,

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>he might play, he might not play. We think he

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 1>should play. We think it's good for him to play

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:52.920
<v Speaker 1>if we if we help put out there, oh there

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 1>is a date that maybe that will get him on

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 1>the court, and that's his get back on the horse moment,

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and then his career can finally turned the page. Because

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the reason this is such a disaster is even if

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>he plays game one of next year, so many of

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 1>these questions and concerns are going to come back the

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>moment the playoffs start, because his last moment in the

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.200
<v Speaker 1>plea didn't get ten minutes in these playoffs. His last

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>moment in the playoffs was the worst moment of professional life.

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not great. Yeah. I mentioned that yesterday that maybe

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:26.399
<v Speaker 1>somebody was trying to not go to him into playing,

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 1>but trying to push him into come on, let's go,

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 1>let's let's let's get back on the horse here. And

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 1>like I did with the with the dinner invites, just

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 1>keep subtly bringing it up until you feel obligated to

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 1>eventually do it. Yes, exactly that strategy. But my back

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.160
<v Speaker 1>was hurting when we went to dinner as well. Yeah.

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I know he's self medicated too, buddy, But god, I

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't get a sip of that wine. But I do.

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I do make my free throws. You do make your

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:55.640
<v Speaker 1>free throws. Can I ask you a question? I don't

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>know how much time we have, um, but I really

0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I have two Kevin Durant questions. Has Kevin Durant ever

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>been the best player in basketball? And if so, win

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I've said no, I get I get into this discussion

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>with Doug Gottlieb. Gottlieb is like gott Lady has been

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the best player for six years And oh my god,

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>it's so stupid. And I said to him. No, Lebron

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 1>has always been better than Kevin Durant. Last year, one

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>could argue, with Lebron getting hurt not playing great in

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.439
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, that Durant passed him, But then last year

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.439
<v Speaker 1>jann has passed him both. Yea, and now it's Jannest.

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:34.159
<v Speaker 1>All right, here's the next question, because here's the other thing.

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, not how much I care about ranking players.

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like so Bill Simmons, who cares even more

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 1>about ranking players than me and wrote one of the

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.160
<v Speaker 1>greatest books on basketball ever, and I tremendous respect for him.

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:49.199
<v Speaker 1>He keeps just casually saying Katie's one of the ten

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>greatest players ever. I don't not only do I not

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>think that's right. I don't think I don't think anyone

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>actually thinks it if you name the names. So just

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 1>with me here and stop me if there's anyone you

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>think there's an argument Katie's better man Lebron, Kareem, Michael Magic,

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 1>Wilt Russell. We're at six, already off the top, no question,

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant, Larry Bird, we're at nine. To

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 1>be top ten, you have to then be better than

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 1>everyone else. I have not mentioned to Keene, I've not

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Shan, I have not mentioned doctor j To me,

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>those are three more clearly. Now we're at twelve. And

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>here's the other problem for Katie. Is it ridiculous for

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>me to say he's going to end up the fourth

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>best of his era Lebron, Jannis, Steph Durant, like the

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.959
<v Speaker 1>post war like. That's so to me, Katie's a hell

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>of a lot closer to twenty all time than to ten.

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even mention Moses. I didn't mention Oscar or Jerry.

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Oscar and Jerry are tough, and they're so long ago.

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna act like I watched him. But I

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think any of those names jump out to you

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>as oh that Nick, that's ridiculous. Brand's better than that.

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Um I well, I'd like to know who Bill Simmons

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>is taking out of the top ten. Yeah, I just

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>curious because at some point now Simmons isn't taking Larry

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Bird out of there, but nope, but at some point

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 1>somebody's gonna make a case for themselves that Larry Bird

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 1>drops out of the top ten all time just because

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>he didn't have longevity. He did have the you know,

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 1>the three MVPs, you know, but you might have Jannis.

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I think Yanni's gonna replace it, yeah right now. Like

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I think Larry is a strong nine, but if you're nine,

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>you're holding on for dear life for that top ten.

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I have Larry right ahead of a team in Shack

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and Doctor J. What a Doctor J gets screwed because

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>nobody cares about the AVA but he was so dominant.

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, what about Steph Curry? If Golden State wins

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>a title this year, to me, Steph Curry would would

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>then does he move ahead? I know people love to

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 1>say was never MVP of the Finals. I understand all that,

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>But if he wins a title without KD, do we

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 1>then put him higher on that list? Yeah? I think

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>if he wins the title this year, he jumps Moses

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and Doctor J. And I think you start having a

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.239
<v Speaker 1>real conversation. It's so funny. You couldn't have two more

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>dissimilar players of him and Shack. I've always been in

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 1>the team slightly ahead of Shock guy. But then it's

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>a real like Shack and Steph couldn't be, you know,

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 1>more diametrically opposed players. But I think it's a real conversation,

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>they would have the same number of rings. I'm not

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>count the rings guy, they would have gotten them very differently.

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Shacks all time apex might be the highest. If you

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>were to tell me one game, to save your life,

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you get any player in league history at his apex.

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I think I might take Shack over lebron Kareem and

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Mike like Apec Shack. I'm like, well, I'm getting forty

0:30:56.800 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 1>and twenty and five like guaranteed. But he just didn't.

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't there long enough? And Steph, it has to if

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the goal is winning, it has to be accounted for.

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>This guy's the greatest teammate this side of Tim Duncan.

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>We've seen in thirty years that he welcomed Duran in

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>that he is now saying I'll come off the bench

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 1>when you need me. That like that stuff has to matter. Yeah,

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I still look at you know, there's certain guys that

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I look like, look at and say they're underrated, Like

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I think Elijahan is underrated. I mean he's my favorite,

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't he He still leads in block shots all time?

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Of course he's up there and steals as well. Yeah,

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>of course, and people don't. The thing is nobody knows.

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Dude went to the finals in eighty six. Nobody cares

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>about that, lost to one of the greatest teams ever

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>in the Celtics, and then the next year in the

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>playoffs average, I don't have it in front of me,

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>but in a series they lost in the first round

0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>average like thirty seven and seventeen with four blocks. It's

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>the game they losing round one A team was and

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 1>it has to matter that for everyone's like, oh, Michael

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>would have won eight. I don't buy that. But there

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>was an era of Barkley, Malone, Ewing Robinson, you know,

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 1>because Duncan wasn't there yet. All Peyton Camp, your buddy,

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Miller. All these guys had two, not one and

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>a half non Michael Jordan's championships eligible form young Shack

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and a Keem got him both. That's gotta matter, No.

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I A Dream is unbelievable, unbelievable and the greatest defensive

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>player other than Bill Russell in NBA history. And having

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 1>been fortunate to watch Doctor Jay and two ABA games,

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>and I remember that he played against Denver and Denver

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 1>had a great front line, but Doctor Jay was there's

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>nobody'd like him like, but people can't see that, like

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>you can see can see it, but oh my god.

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>And he wasn't a great shooter, but he just he

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>had this. You know, go back to the Portland series

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>against Bill Walton. He was the best player. They should

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>have given him the MVP in a losing effort. And

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing about two things about Doctor J. Brussard

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>brings us up all the time. And he's right. When

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the AVA and the NBA both existed and the ABA

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and the NBA would play each other in exhibitions, the

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>ABA won two out of three. Ever, so you could

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>argue the ABA was tougher. He's the greatest player in

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 1>ABA history. Then he got into the NBA and before

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>he wins the title with Moses, he took the Sixers

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>to three finals. So the Sixers to three like no

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Doctor J. This everyone just it felt like three years

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>ago elevated Durant ahead of Doctor J. And it's just

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>like pump the brakes a bit, a little, a little bit.

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I think we all thought, it's just unbelievable. To me,

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I was in person at Barclays to watch the greatest

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>game Durant's ever played, forty eight seventeen and ten with

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>the Harden on one leg, No Kyrie. Game five against Milwaukee,

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>that's the last playoff game he won. That's tough. If

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 1>I say, in the last twenty years, you got one

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>guy to start franchise with and I remove Lebron. You're honest, Okay,

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>do you think he's gonna be a top five player

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 1>of all time? Well? The top five is hard. I

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 1>mean top five is a tough one to crack because

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 1>there's like, it's you know, it's the four most important

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>transcendent players in league history Lebron, Cream, Magic and Michael

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, pick your pick, Wilt or Russell,

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>whatever your flavor is. So I don't know if you

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>want it, so you really only have I don't know.

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's gonna be top five all time.

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I do think he's gonna pass Kobe and Duncan and Bird.

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:51.839
<v Speaker 1>I think, I mean, I think he's gonna win this year.

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's unbelievable. I think that for the next

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>eight years in the NBA, it's Janis and Luca and

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:02.919
<v Speaker 1>it's it's twenty twenties version of Bird and Magic. It's

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>not just because white black in East West. But I

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>at Lucas. You know, I see you know. I'm the

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>man that said the Clippers could never make the conference

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 1>finals with Kway and Paul George, and that said the

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Nets could never make the conference finals. I'm also man

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:17.879
<v Speaker 1>said the Maps are gonna make the finals. You marked

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>that down, Dan Patrick, this is Luca's O seven. L

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I know you've been, You've been big on him. They

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>gotta survive this series. Oh it's over surviving the series.

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:31.359
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I'm I'm moving markets. The Vegas has

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 1>underpriced the MAVs consistently since Luca has been back, and

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 1>this morning I log in like, oh, Dallas plus a

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>point and a half, Well, that seems worth a maximum.

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:44.879
<v Speaker 1>Wager mentioned it on the show showins I look, oh

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Dallas minus one of old twenty half point line movement.

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Was there any news? No, no, no, they saw your

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>buddy Nick Wright putting a wager and they were like,

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 1>oh boy, he's been killing us. On the Lucas. There

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:01.280
<v Speaker 1>was Dallas minus three yesterday. Dan made for a small

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 1>midsized luxury sedan with that. I like that, and next

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 1>meal on me, oh yeah, why you yeah, Oh boy,

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I've been I've been I've been looking get my best

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 1>of wild Okay, I'll give I'll give your best to

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>everyone on my show. Since you liked all of us equally,

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to you later. All right, thank you, Byn.

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.960
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<v Speaker 1>musical guest Lizzo, Ladies and Gentlemen, Bill Hater. Reggie Miller

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<v Speaker 1>will be on the program with us tomorrow This Dame

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<v Speaker 1>Sports History Final results of the Pole question. PAULI has

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<v Speaker 1>a quick NBA quiz and he is teasing me by

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<v Speaker 1>saying he's got an unbelievable NFL question for tomorrow, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>overselling it. I've got a draft related NFL question I

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<v Speaker 1>never even really discussed before. Okay, it's a two parter

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<v Speaker 1>and ll be on to Marshal. Okay, Wow, it's very,

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<v Speaker 1>very tough to answer. Okay, all right, the quick NBA quiz.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately I don't have the results yet for the quiz.

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<v Speaker 1>But how many NBA based off Jannis, how many NBA

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<v Speaker 1>players in history before the age of twenty eight have

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<v Speaker 1>two MVPs League MVPs and a Finals MVP and a

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<v Speaker 1>Defensive Player of the Year Award? Oh? I think did

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Russell have We're checking No, No, because I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Russell was AIRBRA MVP. Yeah, because you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be both. NUE VPS finals, MVP and defensive MVP, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the time because Larry Bird would be there because

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<v Speaker 1>Larry had the MVP. He doesn't have defensive. No, Elijuan

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<v Speaker 1>Is has a defensive Yeah, but he didn't have titles. Yeah, MARV.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Bill Russell was MVP like five times? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>was he? I think Jordan had. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan didn't have a title before he's twenty eighth, though

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I'm almost sure he didn't. Yeah, probably so,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're trying to find out if anyone's got Jeannie's

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<v Speaker 1>resume at before twenty eight. Yeah, I thought I remember

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<v Speaker 1>having a stat a while ago after he won the title,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it was something about having two titles, two MVPs.

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<v Speaker 1>Kareem had a title in Milwaukee. When did he win

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<v Speaker 1>his first title? How old was he when he won

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<v Speaker 1>his second title, his first in LA because he would

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<v Speaker 1>have been MVP twice by then, Yeah, he is he.

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<v Speaker 1>Kareem I think had four MVPs before, three MVPs before

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<v Speaker 1>he's twenty eight. I think, yeah. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>they did Defensive Player of the Year back then. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that was an award I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they did. He would have that seems like a guy

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<v Speaker 1>would have won it as well. How many MVPs did

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Russell win? You know, I'm gonna say five. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's embarrassing that I'm wondering if he had won

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<v Speaker 1>the MVP. It's you know, he never had good stats

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<v Speaker 1>that like Wilt always had better numbers. And if it's

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<v Speaker 1>regular season, you know Russell was playing for the better team. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>See have multi time winners here with Kareem at six.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Russell's got five, Jordan's got five. Wow. Yeah, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think guys like Bill Russell won the MVP

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<v Speaker 1>because they voted after the finals were over? Because that

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<v Speaker 1>was I'm guessing that's how he won is because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that there was a finals MVP award. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry West won a finals MVP when they lost to

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<v Speaker 1>the Celtics and I think sixty nine. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>when it changed because I think in the early part

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<v Speaker 1>of Bill Russell's career there was just league MVP. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just you know, Bill Russell was, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>mythical figure like nobody knows that he wasn't a shooter,

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<v Speaker 1>free throw shooter. He was just a winner and there's

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<v Speaker 1>something to be said for that that he loved. He

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<v Speaker 1>came alive in big games. He showed up in big games.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, Wilt's regular season numbers were crazy. But

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<v Speaker 1>what Jannis is doing should not be overlooked, underrated at

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<v Speaker 1>age twenty seven and that willingness. I know I keep

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<v Speaker 1>saying this, but it's just I've been around sports for

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<v Speaker 1>over fifty years, and when you want to be great

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<v Speaker 1>every single year and improve, and you could see Jannis

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<v Speaker 1>like he wants to be great and he's a team

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<v Speaker 1>player like he does. He came up big last year,

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<v Speaker 1>made his free throws. I mean, he's a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>I root for. I just I love the personality. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that attitude that he has of wanting to be great.

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<v Speaker 1>This day in sports history, do you have anything quickly?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, right? No? Oh. Red Arback retired as the

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<v Speaker 1>head coach of the Boston Celtics on this day. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty six, Nolan Ryan had his twelfth one hitter.

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<v Speaker 1>You can talk about his no hitters. He had twelve

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<v Speaker 1>one hitters. Sounds like Laramy Tunsel. Oh, come on, bloop,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you learn to eight Todd. According to Kyrie Arver,

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<v Speaker 1>it appears circumstances and situations were among those that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>step up for the next this season. Why they got

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<v Speaker 1>swept by the Celtic. That'd be great if you had

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<v Speaker 1>two guys in their uniform the name on the back

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<v Speaker 1>with circumstances and situation. What did I learn today? Todd

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