Speaker 1: And all that. That's called freedom of speech, and that's
Speaker 1: what this hearing title is protecting speech. So all I
Speaker 1: can see is, look, we should all join hands and
Speaker 1: denouncing and whatever words you want to use about violent
Speaker 1: extremism of all stripes, and I think we can all
Speaker 1: agree on that. So's to constantly accuse Democrats of not
Speaker 1: caring about that is really I can only say that
Speaker 1: you aren't listening. So I hope this is the end
Speaker 1: of this hearing, mister chairman, and that we don't have
Speaker 1: to listen to any more of your rhetorical speeches. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much. I'm leaving well. I appreciate the as
Speaker 1: always kind and uplifting words of Senator Herono, and I
Speaker 1: would also note that throughout her remark she still did
Speaker 1: not say a negative word about Antifa, nor has any
Speaker 1: Democrat here. They instead engage in a political game where
Speaker 1: they depend. You're welcome to say something negative about Antifa
Speaker 1: right now. I think that I've covered the subject quite okay.
Speaker 1: She declined to speak, so that is the position of
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. I would note also that of the
Speaker 1: seven Democratic senators who spoke, not a one of them
Speaker 1: apologized for or denounced multiple Democrats calling law enforcement officers Nazis, stormtroopers,
Speaker 1: and Gestapo. To be fair, I don't have not heard
Speaker 1: the word Nazi, but stormtrooper was Nancy Pelosi and Gastapo
Speaker 1: was another Democratic leader. Welcome back to Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Speaker 1: I'm Michael Knowles. I'm sitting here, of course with the senator. Senator,
Speaker 1: you have not yet chased me out of this room,
Speaker 1: but I notice you seem to have chased your Democratic
Speaker 1: colleague out of the Senate yesterday. Well, Michael, I don't
Speaker 1: like what you're saying, so I'm going to need to
Speaker 1: get up and run away and leave. Now. You're very
Speaker 1: frightening and you're you're causing me to hyperventily. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: because I'm posing these very difficult questions to you, such
Speaker 1: as are you willing to condemn Antifa? So so it
Speaker 1: was really crazy. So I chaired a hearing on Antifa violence.
Speaker 1: And it's I, as you know, chair the Constitution Subcommittee,
Speaker 1: a Senate Judiciary committee, and so the the hearing was
Speaker 1: focused on the right and the First Amendment peaceably to assemble.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you remember back, do you
Speaker 1: remember Chris Cuomo on CNN saying saying, where is it
Speaker 1: written that that that protesting and gathering has to be peaceable?
Speaker 1: And it's kind of like, well, okay, there's this thing
Speaker 1: called the First Amendment. It's in the Constitution, the right
Speaker 1: of the people peaceably to assemble. It's right there, first Amber,
Speaker 1: part of the Bill of Rights attached the Well you
Speaker 1: get understand, CNN, they don't have copies of the Constitution,
Speaker 1: so so you can understand. You wouldn't expect the CUOMO
Speaker 1: to be familiar with I don't know that it's even
Speaker 1: allowed in the building. Frankly, I think that's probably right. Well,
Speaker 1: the hearing was on free speech and the right peaceably
Speaker 1: to assemble, and how radical anarchists and Marxists are taking
Speaker 1: over these protests and engaging in rioting and violence, and
Speaker 1: so we had testimony and in the entire course of it,
Speaker 1: so we had testimony originally from the Department of Justice
Speaker 1: and Department Homeland Security. Ken Kucinelli, the acting Deputy Secretary,
Speaker 1: test if I did a five fabulous job. But seven
Speaker 1: different Democratic senators participated in the hearing. Not a single
Speaker 1: one of them was willing to say even a single
Speaker 1: word critical about Antifa. They wouldn't and it's you know,
Speaker 1: I gotta say, look, I'll give the DEM's credit. They
Speaker 1: have a message discipline. Like when a talking point goes out,
Speaker 1: I don't know who it is. Is that what it is? Though?
Speaker 1: I mean they basically they get the talking points that
Speaker 1: they stick to it. They repeat the same words over
Speaker 1: and over again. So for example, all of them called
Speaker 1: the DHS law enforcement officers secret police. That was clearly
Speaker 1: the talking point. So so Mazy Heronos, the ranking Democrat
Speaker 1: on the committee, she plays this this video I think
Speaker 1: from the New York Times where it refers to them
Speaker 1: as unidentified officers, and literally the video playing they have
Speaker 1: in giant right yellow all caps letters the words police
Speaker 1: like that. That's not they are identified. Let's not a
Speaker 1: question about that. But it's but it doesn't stop them.
Speaker 1: So they're talking points, and so they're talking points on Antifa,
Speaker 1: on the terrorists. Is they just scream right wing violence,
Speaker 1: white supremacist, white supremacists, and the difference by the way, um, look,
Speaker 1: I'm white supremacists, Nazis KKK. Those guys are racist idiots.
Speaker 1: Lock them all up, they commit violence, Lock them up
Speaker 1: and throw them in jai. This is the point. This
Speaker 1: was what was so shocking to me when I was
Speaker 1: watching this clip of you talking to Senator Horono. When
Speaker 1: some fringe lunatic guy who maybe he associates with the right,
Speaker 1: and he comes out and says something bigoted, all the
Speaker 1: right disavows, condemns, takes two seconds, nobody worries about it.
Speaker 1: But none of your Democratic colleagues on zero, not one
Speaker 1: could condemn Antifa, or the Marxists or the other end.
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems so simple to me. Why couldn't
Speaker 1: they do it? So not only that, but but but
Speaker 1: also we've seen their rhetorics. So Nancy Pelosi called federal
Speaker 1: police officers stormtroopers, aunt Jim Kleiber and one of the
Speaker 1: ranking leading Democrats of the House called them gestapo like
Speaker 1: calling cops Nazis yea, And not a single Democrat, I
Speaker 1: mean repeatedly that was called out. Not one of the
Speaker 1: Democratic senators would walk away from it. And so at
Speaker 1: the end of the hearing, Mazie got up and stormed out,
Speaker 1: and she's like, well, no, no, I've condemned violence. I'm like, well, no,
Speaker 1: not from Antifa, not from the left. You insist the
Speaker 1: only violence that occurs is on the right. Facts be damned.
Speaker 1: Do you know what Ken Kucinelli told us at the hearing.
Speaker 1: What he said, there have been in the last six
Speaker 1: months two hundred and seventy seven officer injuries in Portland.
Speaker 1: Wow seven. So Ken Cucinelli Deputy Secretary of Department of
Speaker 1: Homeland Security, and he testified it, and he testified fact
Speaker 1: he had. So they're throwing rocks at the officers, they're
Speaker 1: throwing frozen water bottles. In fact, Ken had a frozen
Speaker 1: water bottle with him just to illustrate. They hit an
Speaker 1: officer in the head with a sledgehammer. They're bringing knives,
Speaker 1: they're bringing guns, They're throwing gasoline and lighting gasoline on fire.
Speaker 1: They're firing mortars with with commercial fireworks. They have those lasers. Well,
Speaker 1: and you and I, so we did we did an
Speaker 1: interview with the Secretary of Homeland Security, Chad Wolf, and
Speaker 1: we did it at DHS, which was pretty cool. But
Speaker 1: while we're doing the interview, you and I are sitting
Speaker 1: there into the room walks Ken Cucinelli. You know, in
Speaker 1: the moment I couldn't quite tell. Obviously the lighting was
Speaker 1: a little dark. So, like I said, who is this
Speaker 1: guy who's kind of walking in if i'd known. If
Speaker 1: i'd know it was him, I would have said he
Speaker 1: should come right on the show. And if i'd have
Speaker 1: seen him, he came in behind me, so I didn't
Speaker 1: see him. If I had seen him, I said, Cooch,
Speaker 1: come on over, pull up a chair because he was
Speaker 1: coming to testify that afternoon, and he had a prop
Speaker 1: he had, so the commercial laser that they're using. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have to admit when I read about the sort
Speaker 1: of lasers to the eyes that that struck me as
Speaker 1: a little bogus because we've always had little laser pointers, right,
Speaker 1: you chase your cat around with it? Yeah, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: isn't that? Isn't that All of Twitter is cat videos, like, like,
Speaker 1: I think that's the entirety of the Internet. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: what was interesting is these commercial ones. So so Cooch
Speaker 1: had one of those. He said, here, hold your hand out,
Speaker 1: so I did, and he points it and in like
Speaker 1: one second. It takes about a second and then you go,
Speaker 1: oh crap, and you yank. I mean it burned. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't think that you were
Speaker 1: necessarily foolish when he says put your in it, you
Speaker 1: did it, But then I saw it burned. You and
Speaker 1: then you tell me, hey, Michael, put your hand out,
Speaker 1: and I like a fool, I put my hand out
Speaker 1: and I get it burned by Look, this is basic
Speaker 1: human instinct. You know. You have like spoiled milk and
Speaker 1: you go, oh, stays terrible like, but it's serious. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can you can light a piece of paper on
Speaker 1: fire with those lasers. And this is this is the
Speaker 1: kind of thing that's being shined in the CoP's eyes.
Speaker 1: And and Cucinelli testified over thirty officers have had eye
Speaker 1: damage where they shine it in their eyes and it's
Speaker 1: a risk of permanent blindness. And in fact, what they're
Speaker 1: doing is they have these shields and they get up
Speaker 1: right close at them to shine the laser right in
Speaker 1: their eye, um, and try to blind them. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know one thing, you did very well at the hearing.
Speaker 1: And for some reason, I notice these clips aren't going around.
Speaker 1: I don't know why the press isn't covering it. You
Speaker 1: went through with great specificity who these people are, the
Speaker 1: organized anarchists, the organized Marxists who are behind these riots
Speaker 1: all over the country. You know, I think the Democrats
Speaker 1: they've outright denied that Antifa even exists. It's Jerry Nadler
Speaker 1: the other day pretended it's not real. You went through
Speaker 1: those specifically, these are real Marxists, these are real anarchists. Well,
Speaker 1: and you take two different groups that are worth worth
Speaker 1: focusing on one Antifa, and you've got we heard a
Speaker 1: lot of testimony. Antifa is profoundly violent. They engage in terrorism,
Speaker 1: they encourage terrorism, they train people to engage in this violence.
Speaker 1: They're also profoundly anti free speech. They and they use
Speaker 1: violence as a way to silent speech they disagree with you,
Speaker 1: and these are concerted. You know, Andy No the journalist,
Speaker 1: he testified at the hearing about being violently beaten up
Speaker 1: by the way they call him a white supremacist, as
Speaker 1: he described he's he's the son of a Vietnamese immigrant.
Speaker 1: He's Vietnamese and gay is not. You're like, he is
Speaker 1: the most Vietnamese white supremacist I've ever met, There's no question.
Speaker 1: But you know what they call Ben Shapiro and Nazi,
Speaker 1: So so never let facts get in the way right
Speaker 1: of their attacking rhetoric. Yeah, but you know, so you
Speaker 1: had the anarchists of Antifa, and you had Marxists as well,
Speaker 1: as you explained yesterday, well, and I talked at some
Speaker 1: length about black lives matter. Now, now it's important to
Speaker 1: understand the difference. The phrase black lives matter. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: of course is indisputably true this period the end. And
Speaker 1: let me actually take a digression for a minute. I
Speaker 1: think most Republicans are morons when it comes to talking
Speaker 1: about black lives matter. Uh, because when you have someone
Speaker 1: say does black lives matter? You get all these Republicans No,
Speaker 1: all lives matter? Yeah, why can't you just say yes? Right?
Speaker 1: If you ask me, yes, it's black lives matter. Well,
Speaker 1: it's like Mazie Herono's answer, right, Well, you condemn Antifa,
Speaker 1: I condemn extremism, Say right, but what about specifically Antifa's
Speaker 1: you know, for a simple question like absolutely, black lives
Speaker 1: are precious and they matter immensely, and the reason is
Speaker 1: every life is created by God. But you don't you
Speaker 1: see Republicans like terrified to say that, Yeah, because we're
Speaker 1: in such a weird politicized world. Well, and also because
Speaker 1: there's this organization which is very different. Well, and and
Speaker 1: that's so the statement black lives matter is a truism.
Speaker 1: Overwhelming the majority of Americans agree with it. It It should
Speaker 1: be everyone I mean, yeah, basically everyone, I think. But
Speaker 1: there's something very separate from the organization that is called
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter and this um. There's an article I
Speaker 1: entered into the record of the hearing from the Washington
Speaker 1: Examiner that gives some of the history of the organization.
Speaker 1: So it was founded by three radicals who describe themselves
Speaker 1: in their own words as trained Marxists. So they are
Speaker 1: this is not me calling the Marxist. They tell you
Speaker 1: they're Marxists. They tell you they've studied Marx and Lenin
Speaker 1: and Mao. They I mean, there's a video of Patris Klus,
Speaker 1: Who's who's one of the co founders. She says, Alicia
Speaker 1: and I are Alicia Garris, another co founder, are trained Marxists.
Speaker 1: And the third co founder, oh, Paul Timetti, is seen
Speaker 1: smiling and photographs with the communist dictator of Venezuela. They're
Speaker 1: they're not hiding this sort of thing. So not only that,
Speaker 1: one of the founders of the organization Black Lives Matter
Speaker 1: describes as her mentor Angela Davis. Now Angela Davis, I
Speaker 1: don't have to call her communist. She tells you she
Speaker 1: was a communist. She was not once, but twice the
Speaker 1: vice presidential nominee of the Communist Party of the United States.
Speaker 1: So she's an avowed communist Marxist and by the way,
Speaker 1: you know is rapidly anti Semitic, rapidly anti history. Someone
Speaker 1: else who Susan Rosenberg? Now, who is Susan Rosenberg? Susan
Speaker 1: Rosenberg is the vice chair of the board of directors
Speaker 1: of Thousand Currents. Now, what is thousand Currents? Thousand Currents
Speaker 1: is what is funding the organization Black Lives Matter? Now?
Speaker 1: Who is Susan Rosenberg? Also, she was part of the
Speaker 1: revolutionary military group known as the May nineteenth communist organization
Speaker 1: affiliated with the Weather Underground. She was convicted of weapons
Speaker 1: and explosive charges and sentenced to fifty eight years in prison.
Speaker 1: So she's a convicted terrorist. By the way, she was
Speaker 1: pardoned by Bill Clinton on the last day of his presidency.
Speaker 1: It was one of those midnight and a million other
Speaker 1: people were parking at the end of the administration. So
Speaker 1: she was at Rosenberg in the nineteen sixties and seventies
Speaker 1: was on the FBI's most wanted list. She was caught
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty four unloading hundreds of pounds of dynamite
Speaker 1: and weapons including a submachine gun. So we're not talking
Speaker 1: like a sort of mild little rebel. We're not just
Speaker 1: a frozen water bottle. It is not so Garza, one
Speaker 1: of the Black Lives Matter founders, talks about how convicted
Speaker 1: cop killer Assanta Shakur is one of her main inspirations.
Speaker 1: Now Skur is right now today on the FBI's most
Speaker 1: wanted list. There's a million dollar reward for Shakur's information
Speaker 1: leading to her capture. She's believed to be hiding in Cuba,
Speaker 1: and she was a member of the Black Liberation Army,
Speaker 1: another terrorist organization. She's wanted for escaping from prison, and
Speaker 1: she was in prison serving a life sentence for murdering
Speaker 1: a police officer. And the police officer and individual named
Speaker 1: Werner Forster, was shot execution style, point black. This wasn't
Speaker 1: an accidental this was and and by the way, it's
Speaker 1: not like these folks are just kind of okay, we're
Speaker 1: all like vaguely know each other. So Colors, one of
Speaker 1: the three founders, wrote a memoir entitled When They Call
Speaker 1: You a Terrorist, a Black Lives Matter Memoir. So it's
Speaker 1: like what we're all about. The foreword is written by
Speaker 1: Angela Davis and the epigraph is written by Shakur the
Speaker 1: cop killer. Wow. So there they don't tell you this
Speaker 1: in the mainstream media. In fact, I had never heard that,
Speaker 1: and I've actually done some research into the BLM organization.
Speaker 1: So Angela Davis, you wan't to talk about the anti
Speaker 1: semitism of Angela Davis for a minute. She was asked,
Speaker 1: so she was big apologist for the Soviet Union. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I look communist, That's what they did. So she was
Speaker 1: traveling to Moscow and she was asked if she would
Speaker 1: speak up for the Jewish prisoners of conscience in the
Speaker 1: gulags in the Soviet Union, and her answer was, and
Speaker 1: this is a quote, that they are all Zionist, fascists
Speaker 1: and opponents of socialism, and so therefore she would be
Speaker 1: urged that she would urge that they'd be kept in prison.
Speaker 1: Not only would she not speak up with them, she'd
Speaker 1: be like, lock them up. By the way, Angela Davis
Speaker 1: just recently endorsed Joe Biden for president. That's right, and
Speaker 1: she said he would be easy to manipulate it. Black
Speaker 1: Lives Matter Itself refers to Israel as an apartheid state,
Speaker 1: committing genocide. That's that's their terms. But what is Black
Speaker 1: Lives Matters stand for? If you go look at their
Speaker 1: website yea, their number one priority is abolishing the police nationwide. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is, by the way, according to Gallup polling, opposed
Speaker 1: by eighty one of Black Americans. It was either Gallup
Speaker 1: or was a YouGov pole But it just came out.
Speaker 1: And if Black Lives Matter succeeded in their stated objective
Speaker 1: of abolishing police, the result would be many, many more
Speaker 1: Black lives are lost, of course, because you would have
Speaker 1: many more murders, many more rapes, many more assaults, which
Speaker 1: sadly we're seeing in big cities right now as police
Speaker 1: are are are being held back, but but without law enforcement,
Speaker 1: those living in the most high crime neighborhoods get they're
Speaker 1: victims and many of the far too many of the
Speaker 1: victims of crime or African American and Black Lives Matter.
Speaker 1: It is essentially abandoning him to that. Not only that
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter, the organization calls for abolishing the nuclear
Speaker 1: family like moms and dads. Don't just say that again,
Speaker 1: it's very like they explicit and this go read their
Speaker 1: own website. Don't take my word for it. That's what
Speaker 1: they're advocating for now, let me tell you. And by
Speaker 1: the way, they also call for a white boycott. They
Speaker 1: say boycott white corporations, that nobody should buy anything from
Speaker 1: white corporations. Now, one of the things I talked about
Speaker 1: the hearing yesterday, we're seeing all these companies, particularly tech
Speaker 1: companies they're wanting to virtue signal, who are giving millions
Speaker 1: and millions of dollars right to this organization Black Lives Matter.
Speaker 1: Those are among those tech companies that are doing it
Speaker 1: are Microsoft, Amazon. I went and listed a whole bunch,
Speaker 1: but but pause for a second and think. Look, Microsoft,
Speaker 1: it's largest shareholders a guy named Bill Gates. Yeah. Last
Speaker 1: time I checked, Bill Gates, a white guy. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: Microsoft is literally donating money to an organization calling for
Speaker 1: people to boycott Microsoft, like like saying do not purchase
Speaker 1: any products from anything Bill Gate. Amazon. Amazon's given him money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos is a white guy. Amazon is funding a
Speaker 1: group saying don't buy anything from Amazon. And it's look,
Speaker 1: you want to support social justice, great, wonderful, Go support
Speaker 1: school choice, Go give scholarships for inner city kids to
Speaker 1: go to excellent schools. There are all sorts of things
Speaker 1: you can do. But the problem is because people are
Speaker 1: terrified of contradicting the indisputably true statement that black lives matter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that they'll support this awful organization, and they are funding
Speaker 1: explicit Marxists who want to destroy capitalism, destroy for enterprise,
Speaker 1: destroy the family. Speaking of our friends who were stuck
Speaker 1: at home, a number of them are writing in questions
Speaker 1: for the mail bag from Balaam's donkey. This is a
Speaker 1: Twitter account. I don't think it's this. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's this Christian name. What can I do personally to
Speaker 1: stop this madness? I'm not I'm not important. I'm not
Speaker 1: even a good debater, but I know what I believe.
Speaker 1: Give me specifics. Speak, speak to your friends, speak to
Speaker 1: your family, and you know what you are famous, bloms
Speaker 1: Docky Donkey, because you've got with social media, every one
Speaker 1: of us is publisher. Now I know you also on
Speaker 1: a big podcast right now, like every one of us
Speaker 1: can speak out. And I actually tell like, I don't
Speaker 1: know how how old bloms Docky is, but I talked
Speaker 1: to a lot of you know, high school kids, college kids,
Speaker 1: and when it comes to defending freedom, why it is
Speaker 1: freedom matter? I say, Look, you can do it much better.
Speaker 1: I'm forty nine years old. How many fifteen year olds
Speaker 1: are gonna listen to me? Yeah, I'd much rather have
Speaker 1: a fifteen year old say why does it matter to
Speaker 1: be free? Use your voice to explain why freedom matters,
Speaker 1: why free speech matters. Look, the left are intolerant, totalitarian,
Speaker 1: and oppressive. So speaking out using humor, uh, telling stories? Um?
Speaker 1: And on that point, knowing what you say. I mean
Speaker 1: Balama's donkey says he knows what he believes, and I
Speaker 1: believe him. But I think some people, you know, they
Speaker 1: want to get out there and argue their point of view.
Speaker 1: The other the other side of this is study the facts,
Speaker 1: I mean, read up, no, know what your point of
Speaker 1: view is, so that you can articulate why, why you
Speaker 1: support your country, why you like your freedoms while you
Speaker 1: like your rights and and and help educate others. And look,
Speaker 1: left and right tend to communicate differently. Um. Too many
Speaker 1: people on the right communicate like accountants. Yes, yes, just
Speaker 1: throws crazy numbers in a green eye shade. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: and the left they go for the heart. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean their argument is he wants to eat your children. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's what they say, right, we got to
Speaker 1: do both. It's why stories are you know, when you
Speaker 1: and I did the pod with John Voyd, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're we're talking to him about like storytelling is a
Speaker 1: natural skill. And actually, actually this may have been afterwards
Speaker 1: where we were we were enjoying a cigar together, and
Speaker 1: I think I think this was after the pod and
Speaker 1: we were we were talking with John and and I said, look,
Speaker 1: storytelling is a natural human expression of all of us,
Speaker 1: and and and it's how we all communicate. And John
Speaker 1: discres it. No no, no, no, no no or no
Speaker 1: lad I think, no, no, lad, no, you do a
Speaker 1: better avoid impression than I do. But but his to
Speaker 1: be sure, there are better storytellers, and we're storytellers, right,
Speaker 1: but it is how our hearts are stitched together. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: so tell stories. We need more than just eggheads. I
Speaker 1: mean we want, you know, we want the accounting to
Speaker 1: work out, but you have to grab people with a narrative.
Speaker 1: Chase wants to know, speaking of sometimes we're lemmings, sometimes
Speaker 1: we fight back. He has a question about owning the libs,
Speaker 1: you know, a politics of opposition, Yeah, banding together, He says,
Speaker 1: is owning the Libs a strong enough policy platform to
Speaker 1: win the House, Senate, the White House? Of course? Not so,
Speaker 1: of course not. Look this election, we win, Trump gets
Speaker 1: re elected. Republicans win. If this is a battle of
Speaker 1: ideas because the left is gone insane, Yeah, their ideas
Speaker 1: are terrible. If this is a battle between socialism and
Speaker 1: free enterprise, we win. If this is a battle between
Speaker 1: abolishing the police and protecting people's safety, we win. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like their positions are so extreme. But I suppose this
Speaker 1: raises the question because when I hear owning the Libs,
Speaker 1: there is something to this right, a politics of opposition,
Speaker 1: where because their ideas are so extreme, because they're you know,
Speaker 1: they're like pulling down statues and burning down the country.
Speaker 1: I wonder if if what Chase is asking is is
Speaker 1: it enough to just point to their craziness. So my
Speaker 1: point on this, though, is that we have to fight
Speaker 1: on the field of ideas. I think that Democrats want
Speaker 1: to make this election entirely a personality election, and they
Speaker 1: wanted a referendum. Undo you like Donald Trump? Yes or no?
Speaker 1: There's a reason Joe Biden is hiding his basement, right,
Speaker 1: And it's actually I don't think that it's seen that
Speaker 1: he's seen Island has dementia. I think they've made the decision.
Speaker 1: They think they're winning on a personality popularity contest on
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and so they just figure, all right, why
Speaker 1: you know, if you're winning, don't mess with it. Yeah
Speaker 1: and so and so. From their perspective, they would characterize
Speaker 1: it as sort of owning Trump. Let's let's just make it, yeah,
Speaker 1: all about him. Look, you and I both have fun
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and you know I own the occasional lib
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that, but I try to do it.
Speaker 1: I know you two actually on substance and issues. So
Speaker 1: if it's a question do you have the guts to
Speaker 1: actually take him on? Yes, that matters. Yeah, do you
Speaker 1: have a sense of humor and be fun about it?
Speaker 1: You know? Do you see the Portland rights are now
Speaker 1: complaining They want like like the government to fund equipment
Speaker 1: so they could riot. And look, I saw that and
Speaker 1: I tweeted it out and I said, you know, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm more than happy to give it to you.
Speaker 1: Every one of you that engages in violence, I'll give
Speaker 1: you a taxpayer paid orange jumpsuit. That's exactly right. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's you know, but it needs to be on substance.
Speaker 1: There's also a point to that. When I'm saying that,
Speaker 1: I'm making a point that these are violent criminals that
Speaker 1: should be incarcerated. You can have a little bit of
Speaker 1: fun with it, yeah, and you probably should, but it's
Speaker 1: got to be grounded and something real if it's going
Speaker 1: to be effective. You know, just saying you suck it
Speaker 1: is not a great message. And frankly, is how leftist.
Speaker 1: I mean that that's basically what what they say to
Speaker 1: Trump is they just hate him. I mean, they're just
Speaker 1: orange man bad. I mean, that's just they just scream
Speaker 1: primal rage. But look how many Republicans are actually engaged
Speaker 1: in a real battle of ideas right now? Yea. And
Speaker 1: what I'm urging the White House if they let it
Speaker 1: be a personality contest, yep, that's what the left wants.
Speaker 1: That's what the left wants, and I think that's much
Speaker 1: more dangerous than focusing on ideas that work. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: we will have to leave it there. I will see
Speaker 1: you on the next episode. We'll see you on the
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