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Speaker 2: What are you smiling about? Dude? Almost sad? You?

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Speaker 3: Ooh dam you.

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Speaker 2: Almost had me?

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Speaker 3: You never had me, you never had your car.

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Speaker 2: Granny shifting not double clutching like you should.

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Speaker 2: Shit almost had me. I do know, he's an idiot, man,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now me and the mad Scientist gotta rip apart the

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Speaker 1: block and replace the piston rings your fried deal?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god?

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Speaker 3: Good morning, sweet world. Then welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 3: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, December eighth of

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Speaker 3: And before we get into the NBA action from last night,

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Speaker 3: wonderful news in the basketball world WNBA star Britney Griner. Yes,

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Speaker 3: and it's been transferred to US custody after a prisoner exchange,

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Speaker 3: coming home for the holidays. That's great news.

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Speaker 4: Free BG till us the other way around.

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Speaker 3: There, you go BG free. All right, So we are

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Speaker 3: There was a lot on. We're not going to get

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Speaker 3: to every single one, but we start with Fontechio, who, Yes,

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Speaker 3: Simone Fontechio, I believe is his name. The Italian twenty

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Speaker 3: Warriors in a shorthanded matchup. There were so many guys

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Speaker 2: We're so lucky that you go to Italy every year,

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Speaker 2: so we have you to pronounce Simoni Fontachio's name.

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Speaker 3: I believe a name. Baby.

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Speaker 2: Melik Beasley wide open. Beasley hits the three, and then

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Speaker 2: had never heard this term before, but Steve Kurra after

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Speaker 3: Of the It was uh, you know it was it

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Speaker 3: Do? They win games? Win games? And because they split

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think Klay Thompson is gonna like the

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Speaker 4: Calling him tech afterwards. This nice little short form nickname there.

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Speaker 4: But here's an end of game hack for NBA players

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Speaker 4: and teams. Always tell the ref that you're not gonna foul,

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Speaker 4: they ain't gonna call it because you said, hey, I'm

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Speaker 2: Then Colin Sexton goes out of this game and Nikhil

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Speaker 2: great coming in as the third guard. No lowry marketing

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Speaker 2: little rough and tumble. Ain't no doubt Trey Gervy. But

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't think you can call a fowl

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you get it. Yeah, give us the quick

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Speaker 3: one where we just touch it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you flip the script, tray. I like that,

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Speaker 4: We're trying to trap their We're just trying to trap. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: not trying to file, so it's all good. Also, maybe

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Speaker 4: a smart tip is when it looks like you're going

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Speaker 4: That was a crazy pass from Nikhil Alexander Walker. It

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Speaker 4: definitely felt like, Okay, he's taking a Layuphah, let's just

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Speaker 4: let him have the layup. Everybody relaxed except for naw

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Speaker 4: and Malik Beasley.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so funny, right. If Beasley misses that three,

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Speaker 3: then everybody's going, what the hell are you doing? Just

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Speaker 3: take the layup, man and get the fouling and they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they needed the points they were down for and

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Speaker 2: you can't extend it with free throws. You can't make

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Speaker 2: it a two possession game. And that was when Jordan Poole, again,

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Speaker 2: last year, goes to the line and splits a pair.

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Speaker 2: So that's unfortunate. I just realized that was a Nikil

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Speaker 2: I mean it looked.

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Speaker 3: Always in the corner and getting at her, got their

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you hear the new rule.

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Speaker 3: I think you have to be wearing your bucket now

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Speaker 3: You never know when it's gonna hit. I think it's

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Speaker 2: But there's no hitting, I know, and like these guys

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Speaker 3: Very true. What do you think about Jordan Clarkson squaring

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Speaker 3: they're separated quickly, but Clarkson square it up just a

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Speaker 3: little a little lot because he was sort of far

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Speaker 3: at it and they thought it was enough that he

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Speaker 3: hit Kaminga sort of aggressively enough in the head to

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Speaker 4: I thought it would be a flagrant one because it

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Speaker 4: didn't look to me like Clarkson made necessarily head contact.

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Speaker 4: was because Clarkson stanced up after there was twenty five

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Speaker 4: guy ain't gonna fight somebody. They stance up when there's

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Speaker 4: no chance you can get to him. Russell Westbrook has

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Speaker 4: done it as well, but I think the referee said

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Speaker 4: that Clarkson's stance had absolutely nothing to do. Was more

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Speaker 4: like it was all about grabbing around the head and neck,

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Speaker 4: which you know is a call these days. But it

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Speaker 4: looked like a flagrant one to me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that wouldn't have been called out on the ice.

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Speaker 3: Like the boys play a little physical out.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like Mike Conley's coming back soon. Lobby Mark

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Speaker 3: Let's go to another game here. D'Angelo Russell hot in

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Speaker 3: Off his jersey and he laid it on the coaches table.

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Speaker 3: It's a different movie.

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Speaker 2: That's a different movie. What do we got? We got

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna try and do a lot of like yeah,

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Speaker 2: Movie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's movie exception.

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Speaker 2: this Pacers team. They now sit at thirteen and twelve,

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Speaker 3: Breck and what about the Wolves. Should they just start

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Speaker 3: I mean I say that jokingly, but there's some truth

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Speaker 2: Well, you gotta be pumped if you're a Raptor. Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Fred van Vliet looking somewhat like himself. He had twenty

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Speaker 4: It doesn't quite hit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got everybody knows about Yeah, that's why I

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Speaker 4: You can't see the stars.

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Speaker 3: They beat the they beat the Lakers. I mean that

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Speaker 4: He got hurt.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: somewhat in and out of the lineup, and it feels

435
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,680
Speaker 2: like it's going to be that way. So it was

436
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 2: a good run for the Lakers, but that may be

437
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 2: that might be the high water mark for this Lakers team.

438
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:38,960
Speaker 2: So it's just something to keep an eye on because

439
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,920
Speaker 2: they have to make a decision going into trade deadline season.

440
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,960
Speaker 2: I'm talking about trade deadline season. We just had the

441
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 2: best trade in the history of the NBA and WNBA

442
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 2: this morning when Britney came back otherwise, who cares? But

443
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 2: you know, we got we got a few months.

444
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 4: It doesn't feel we got one week. Slop season starts

445
00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 4: next week December fifteenth. His trade rumors jump out to

446
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 4: the You Know Ball podcast. It's funny though, that you

447
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 4: say Fred van Vliet is a straight shooter. Yeah, I

448
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 4: love I did love the article, Eric Korean wrote, accepting

449
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 4: the explainants joke because all of the quotes from Fred

450
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 4: VanVleet are incredible in there.

451
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 2: Yep.

452
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, as he mentions, he has not been a straight

453
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 4: shooter this season, even last night he went eight for twenty. Yeah,

454
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 4: the jumper is kind of broke right now. And even

455
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 4: he says, I'm missing left or right for the first

456
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 4: time in my career.

457
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 2: Huh.

458
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 3: He also shoots a curveball.

459
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 4: His ball spins siding when he shoots the ball, so

460
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 4: when he's off it can look bad. But I think

461
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 4: more important is being able to finish inside, because he's

462
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 4: got to be able to finish inside because the Raptors

463
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 4: need somebody who puts pressure on the rim, and you're

464
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 4: gonna let him take layups if he's shooting forty percent

465
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 4: at the rim rather than you know, collapse and let

466
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 4: him kick out for a three pointer.

467
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Speaker 2: Well, the good thing is that Gary Trent now on

468
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 2: the bench, he may get more of those opportunities. And

469
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 2: he said, I'm better when I'm going downhill, ball in

470
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 2: my hands. They do need to give it to him

471
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 2: a little bit more, and by insert Christian Gloco instead

472
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 2: of Gary Trent, I think you'll see more Fred and

473
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 2: they win the game in Atlanta if Fred has the

474
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 2: ball at the end of the game instead of Ogano. Yeah,

475
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 2: I'm still bitter about that Aj Griffin game winner in overtime,

476
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 2: seeing it live right in front of my grill. Fred

477
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 2: still has the ability to do that, and we want

478
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 2: to get the most out of Fred. It's a tough

479
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: team to play against once when he gets gone.

480
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's move on to the Magic. Yes,

481
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,959
Speaker 3: the Orlando Magic beating the Clippers one sixteen, one eleven

482
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Speaker 3: in overtime. They snapped a nine game losing streak. And

483
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 3: I know what you're wondering, Well, who cares. I'm sure

484
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 3: Kawhi wasn't playing. I'm sure Paul George wasn't playing. No, no, no, no.

485
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 3: They were in there for at least times of the game.

486
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 3: Now we got to overtime and they hit their limits restriction,

487
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 3: but then they realized Kawai still had a minute of

488
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 3: his limits restriction, so he played like the final minute

489
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Speaker 3: of overtime. It's so strange with what they're doing with

490
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 3: this team, but they lose here With those guys playing,

491
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 3: they had really bad games. Tray, they're two stars for

492
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 3: the Clippers. But the magic finally stopped that losing streak.

493
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you said Paul George was playing, but was he Yeah,

494
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 4: he played the first quarter, scored ten points, finished with

495
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 4: eleven on the night. Basically, it comes down to way

496
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 4: too many turnovers for the Clippers. They finished with fifteen turnovers,

497
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 4: but they were just giving the ball away. They just

498
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 4: don't have chemistry right now. And the way the Clippers play,

499
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 4: they don't have an offensive system to fall back on.

500
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 4: It's kind of we need a guard or some sort

501
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 4: of perimeter player to puncture the defense, look for a kickout,

502
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 4: maybe it's a wide open three, or we just reset

503
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 4: it and do the exact same thing over and over again.

504
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 4: So with Kawhi coming back, with Paul George coming back,

505
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 4: Reggie Jackson didn't have a great run. I didn't think

506
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 4: last night either they just look a little bit out

507
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 4: of sorts, that's why they've been one of the worst

508
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 4: offensive teams this entire season. Or the good thing I

509
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 4: guess for the Clippers is that they do seem to

510
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 4: be getting healthier and healthier. So the more they play together,

511
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 4: they should theoretically get better, and they do play defense.

512
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 4: But disappointing loss, certainly for the Clippers. But I don't

513
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 4: know the magic We're going to get off the schnid eventually, right, yeah, yea.

514
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 3: So maybe extra disappointing for the Clippers because I think

515
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 3: they play again tonight. This is a back to back

516
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: situation there in Florida. I assume they play the Miami Heat,

517
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,479
Speaker 3: So that means is QUI playing no?

518
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 2: Right?

519
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 3: Does Paul George even play? Probably not. I don't know

520
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 3: for sure, you know, in fact check me on that,

521
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 3: not Kawhi, but PG, I don't know. But so, yeah,

522
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: this is these guys played. You try and get that

523
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 3: Orlando win, then you sit them for the Heat. Not

524
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 3: that the Heat are good right now, but they could

525
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 3: lose that again tonight too.

526
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: That's a tough double header or a tough back to back.

527
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: The old Florida back to back it sounds easy you

528
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,479
Speaker 2: think about it. Oh it's Orlando. Well no, it's always

529
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: a hard one, as NBA teams say. And yeah, they

530
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: weren't able to gut it out there at the end.

531
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 2: They had a late lead there in regulation. Yea. And

532
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 2: kudos to Pawlo Bancaro. We had Kawhi Leonard hitting a

533
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: game winner the other day against Charlotte, bounce into his

534
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: spot against McDaniels, no problem, swish. But Palo Bancaro, that

535
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 2: big boy he plays. He's obviously great on the offensive end,

536
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 2: but he forced Kawhi into an air ball with thirty

537
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: five seconds left. Then Paul George couldn't hit the shot

538
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: at the end of regulation, and uh yeah, it's I'm

539
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 2: excited to see the Pacers on my docket. I am

540
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: excited to see this six and twenty team. The Orlando

541
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: Magic also pop up. They're pretty fun, even though they stink.

542
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: They have so many big bodies to throw out there.

543
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: It is a weird and wacky team. They could start

544
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: like nine guys, even bigger than the Raptors. The Raptors

545
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: started eighteen six nine guys. This team, you know, has

546
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 2: so many centers, so many huge guys in Boncaro is

547
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 2: one of them. Even though he's not a center, he

548
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: looks huge.

549
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 3: I mean he lived at the free line. This one too,

550
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 3: thirteen or fourteen at the line. A lot of those

551
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: were in overtime as well.

552
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: Great sign.

553
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, the Magic have Bull Bull And because they're

554
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: now both in the string lineup, they got Wagner. Wagner

555
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 3: now too. You got moen Franz there and Mo had

556
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 3: a good game twenty points seven to thirteen shooting, thirteen rebounds,

557
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 3: three assists, two steals.

558
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: A really good game from Mo Wagner.

559
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, they got a lot of big guys on

560
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 3: that team. Good way from the Magic to stop the

561
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 3: losing streak. Oh final note, I had the Clippers broadcast.

562
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 2: I really liked him.

563
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 3: I forget their names. I don't even know their names,

564
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 3: I don't think because I know he's on the color commentary.

565
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 3: Who's the play by play?

566
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: Brian's seth Simon?

567
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, Simon, see, I apologize, I should have checked that,

568
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 3: but he had he had some great lines. Because they

569
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: got to overtime and I was watching the Clippers broadcast

570
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: even though it was in Orlando. They brought in a

571
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 3: mere coffee and like in the span of one minute,

572
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 3: he dropped a coffee is for closers, which is great

573
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: because you're in overtime. And Kawhi again went to the

574
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 3: bench and then he scored a mere coffee did and

575
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: he dropped a great respect the drip. I was like,

576
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 3: give me one more, give me one more coffee reference

577
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: here and overtime. But that is all I got all

578
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: I wrote down. But that's good stuff. Yeah, listen, those

579
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: two all right, final game here that we'll touch on

580
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: at least in this block. Tatum and Brown leave the

581
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: Celtics to the easy one to twenty five to ninety

582
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: eight win over the Suns. Everybody was pumped up about

583
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 3: this one. Two best teams in each conference. This could

584
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 3: be a great game. Sons will bounce back, Booker will

585
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 3: bounce back, and instead it was like a forty point

586
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: lead for Boston. I went to bed pretty early in

587
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: this one because the Celtics just crushed them. Any thoughts,

588
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even know what you want to

589
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: say at this point, probably from the Phoenix side of things.

590
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 4: But I saw Joe Mizzoula had a quote afterwards. He

591
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 4: said Phoenix is a great team, and I thought the

592
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 4: way we played, showed the respect we had for him totally.

593
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 4: They said, this is a potential finals match up here, theoretically,

594
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 4: first in the Eastern Conference, first in the Western Conference,

595
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 4: and the Celtics came out and smacked them right like

596
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 4: they were very serious about winning this game. And they

597
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 4: put it on the Suns, who are having to deal

598
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 4: with Chris Paul coming back. Maybe a little change up

599
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 4: in the rotation there, but twenty five from Tatum, twenty

600
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 4: five from Brown. These guys are incredible. They're just great.

601
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

602
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 4: I mean, the Celtics look unbeatable right now. They're clearly

603
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 4: the favorites in the NBA. We'll see how it progresses

604
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 4: over the rest of the season, but they're gonna win

605
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 4: sixty plus games at this point, no doubt.

606
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. When they're dedicated on the defensive end, and they're

607
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: dedicated to getting each other open shots on the offensive end,

608
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: they're flying around the screening for each other, it's tough.

609
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: There's some excuses for the Sun. Sure, Chris Paul come

610
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: back after a month them Booker got in foul trouble

611
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: really really that took them out of their flow. But

612
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 2: I couldn't help but flashback to when they got pounded

613
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: by the MAVs at the end of Game seven there

614
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: where they just got to beat down, put on them.

615
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 2: But this is the best team in basketball. The Celtics

616
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: are clearly that. I would have liked to see the

617
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns get to the free throw line a little

618
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: bit more. Their starters combined got to the free throw

619
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: line only four times. You just don't win basketball games

620
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: like it. That's the scary part for me every single

621
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: game is that they there isn't enough force there. It's

622
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: just a jump shooting team which can win. But now

623
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 2: when you play like that.

624
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 3: Got a fun trivia question for you guys by way

625
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 3: of attitudes. Yes, so Tatum and Brown. You said it, Trey.

626
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: They've each scored each last night, scored twenty five points

627
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: in the win fourteenth time this season. Holy already that

628
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 3: these guys each score twenty five in the game fourteenth

629
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: time together.

630
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: Yes, fourteen of their like twenty five games, twenty six games.

631
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy for them. Can you name the next

632
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 3: best duos this season? It's a hell of a drop off.

633
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 3: It goes from fourteen with Tatum and Brown to eight

634
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: with this duo. And see if you can name any

635
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 3: of these, you know, next three or four duos to

636
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 3: score twenty five.

637
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: In the same game this year Mitchell and Garland.

638
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: No, none on the list.

639
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: I haven't played enough. Durant Irving haven't played enough job.

640
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: Durant Irving have done it eight times their second Yeah,

641
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: you thought.

642
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: I thought they'd be lower than eight.

643
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: Who'd you said?

644
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: Jaw and Bain?

645
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: No all about.

646
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: A sixers combo of some sort.

647
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: No, these are all gettable.

648
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 4: I mean there's a there's super Stray Young and Dejon Murray.

649
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: No, but look get it this way, superstar with like

650
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: then someone down a level in most of the cases,

651
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like a borderline All Star

652
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Speaker 3: guy or Yokich and Guy.

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Speaker 2: No superstar krisps porzingis with Bradley Beal Lebron.

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Speaker 3: And ad Lebron and they've done it four times. Someone's

655
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: done it six times, and someone's done it five times.

656
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Speaker 3: One guy went for like another thirty in his sleep

657
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Speaker 3: last night, and then he paired with this teammate to

658
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: do it six times. I mean, this guy's like considered

659
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Speaker 3: the best player in the league.

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Speaker 4: Look, well Christian would.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I wasn't thinking Luca, But that's five times. There

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Speaker 3: you go six times, Tatum and Brown fourteen times, Katie

663
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Speaker 3: and Kyrie eight times, Jiannis and Drew Holiday six, Luca

664
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: and Christian Wood that has been of a surprising one

665
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: five times, and then Lebron and eighty four fourteen times.

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Speaker 3: Though that is they are Roland and so are we.

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Speaker 3: But we're gonna take a break. Why don't we come back?

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Speaker 3: The Updown Report makes its triumphant return to No Dunks,

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Speaker 3: I don't go anywhere, all right, back with the boys

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Speaker 3: here in the Classic Factory. Great comment from Jay and

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Speaker 3: the stream team. My new year's resolution is to tell

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Speaker 3: even more people about this show than I already do.

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Speaker 3: That's a good new year's resolution for everybody joining us live.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Jay, Thanks Jay, Good luck with your new

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Speaker 3: year's resolution. Twenty twenty three. Okay, let's get to the

676
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Speaker 3: updown Report. Throw your thumbs up, throw your thumbs down

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Speaker 3: on the following topics. According to our guy Fred Katz,

678
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Speaker 3: who wears them on the boulevard, he's of the athletic.

679
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: Of course, the Knicks have been active on the trade

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Speaker 3: market as we approach December fifteenth, a date when most

681
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Speaker 3: players who signed new contracts this past summer are eligible

682
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Speaker 3: to be traded. League sources tell Kats that the most

683
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: common players that the Knicks have discussed with other teams

684
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Speaker 3: are in no particular order. Fred wanted me to note

685
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: that Emmanuel Quickly, Evan Fournier, Derek Rowse, and Cam Redditch.

686
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: So up down on the Knicks trying to trade any

687
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: of those guys, but especially there, I think the quickly Reddish,

688
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: maybe even Foignier. What do you think up or down?

689
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: Well up on the Knicks attempt to make the trade. Absolutely,

690
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: I wouldn't trade a manual quickly, but at the same time,

691
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: trade them all. You got Quentin Grimes. Did you see

692
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: what Quinton Grimes was doing yesterday? Start him? He plays, already,

693
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: plays defense, hitting five threes last night. This is all

694
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: relative stuff. What are you getting back for these guys?

695
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: What do you have to give up? Because with Fournier,

696
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: who's to me, the guy that they're trying to trade.

697
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: He hasn't played in three weeks, he's out of the rotation.

698
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 2: He's got a monstrous contract that they unfortunately signed him

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00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: to for this year and for next year. They may

700
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: have to attach. As Katz says, a reddish or quickly

701
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: to entice the other team to take fourne.

702
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: Because they don't want to put a pick with Fournier

703
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: to get something.

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00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, why would they shouldn't do that? Yeah, they absolutely

705
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 2: shouldn't do that. To me, there's a pecking order here.

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00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: You want to trade Fournier, I think you want to

707
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: keep quickly. He's seemingly he wants to be lou Williams.

708
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: He wants to be the six man. Why not let

709
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: him get into that role. He's taken Derek Rose out

710
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: of the rotation. It sort of makes sense here. And

711
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: then the Cam Reddish one, I believe, I believe somewhat.

712
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: I would keep him around, but I understand if you

713
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: want to move, But what his trade value couldn't be

714
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: any lower at this point. So to me, these are

715
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Speaker 2: names that Fred Katz is throwing out. But but I

716
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: don't see Number one anything really big coming back for

717
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Speaker 2: the Knicks to change their season. In regards to these guys,

718
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Speaker 2: I think it's more cap cap math. Really, That's that's

719
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Speaker 2: all it is to me. Cat's math, Cat's math, Cat's game.

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Speaker 3: Straight up Cats as a movie. Fred Katz, do you

721
00:32:53,960 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: know he was in Cats? Are you upper down on

722
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 3: the Knicks attempting to move these guys, and maybe I

723
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: should have asked it, like tass Is saying, on them

724
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Speaker 3: getting back anything of note for Fournier Quickly, a Reddish,

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Speaker 3: maybe a Rose.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess, I guess I'm up on this

728
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: because the Knicks, to me, like tes Mellis, they clearly

729
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 4: value Quentin run Grimes over Emmanuel Quickly, like Quickly stays

730
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: in trade rumors basically since he came to the Knicks. Honestly,

731
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 4: his progress is kind of stalled out. So I think

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Speaker 4: of all of the players we're talking about here, he

733
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Speaker 4: probably has the most value to other teams. Yeah, only

734
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Speaker 4: at twenty three years old. Yeah, if you can trade

735
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 4: Cam Reddish and anybody wants to give you anything, I

736
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Speaker 4: think that's fine. Fournier, like Test said, it's kind of

737
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Speaker 4: been needing to go. He's got this big deal, and

738
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Speaker 4: once they signed Jalen Brunson to his big deal, it

739
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 4: kind of limits like the upside of Emmanuel Quickly. So

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Speaker 4: I think Fred mentions here that this is basically about

741
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Speaker 4: kind of just clearing out the team, and you know

742
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Speaker 4: there's just not enough minutes.

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Speaker 3: To go around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, if you can bring something back, I

745
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: think it's fine to attach like an expendable contract to

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00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 4: a bad one so that things look better going forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Katz did point out in that article that the

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Speaker 3: Knicks over the last couple of years have been like

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00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 3: first to the trade deadline dance. You know, they show

750
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 3: up early. During team president Leon Rose's first season at

751
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: the Helm, they acquired remember Derek Rose, in early February,

752
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: So that was the weird scheduling of that season. That

753
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 3: was a couple of months before that twenty one trade deadline.

754
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 3: And then last year it gave us an emergency podcast

755
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: for crying out Loud. The Knicks kicked off the league's

756
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: trade slate once again, bringing in Cam Reddish about a

757
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 3: month before the deadline. So will the Knicks once again

758
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 3: under Leon Rose, you know, try and make the first

759
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: deal here, especially once we hit that December fifteenth slap

760
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: it up style the deadline. We'll see. I know they

761
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 3: ain't getting back a first round pick for the one

762
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Speaker 3: they gave up for camber Rich. That's what they gave up.

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Speaker 3: First round pick.

764
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: I know wasn't a good one. I wasn't a good one.

765
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Speaker 3: But Kevin Knox to the Hawks for for Reddish. You'll

766
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: be you'll be happy with a second round pick at

767
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: this point unless he's involved attached to Fournier.

768
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, quickly, And he has dropped out of the rotation

769
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: right now with Tibbs who is constantly moving it around.

770
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Speaker 2: And last night the rotation worked against the Hawks. They

771
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: were pretty dominant. They look like they've got that perfect

772
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: mix right now of a guy like Grimes only take

773
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: three point shots, so we get out of the way,

774
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: play defense alongside RJ. Barret, Jyleb Brunson and Julius Randall

775
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: and then quickly coming off the bench. This is just

776
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: about them cleaning up their mess. Really, That's that's what

777
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: it is. And the guys who I'm sure could are

778
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: expendable really are Rose and Fournier. Yeah, the reddish one,

779
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: I don't know that's still still still still got love?

780
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: Why Why? Yeah, because he's got skills. Obviously he doesn't

781
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: put it together all the time. But what are you

782
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: getting back from? So what's what's the point? Really?

783
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: Sure he's sort of a diamond, doesn't I mean he yeah,

784
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: he can score, he's shown that, but he gives it

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00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: all back, I.

786
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Speaker 2: Mean when he when he wants. He could be a

787
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Speaker 2: really good defender. It just doesn't happen.

788
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Speaker 3: All who believes in Cam Reddish More test Melissa, my

789
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: buddy grish or Buddy grish our buddy grish I loves

790
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: him some Cam Reddish. Yeah he should trade Cam Reddish

791
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: to our you know, seven year old basketball team. We

792
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: have practice tonight. Maybe Cam will be there. We're willing

793
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 3: to throw in uh one of the twins. Uh, take

794
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: your pick, Andreas or Zara will throw in a Javid

795
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Speaker 3: He he does some work on the boards, and that's

796
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: our that's our final offer, all right, call.

797
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Speaker 2: Us not doing it?

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00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 4: No, no, he says, no, no, David.

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Speaker 3: We're literally asking, would Grisham trade one of his kids

800
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: for Cam Reddish? Find out how much he likes him. No, well,

801
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 3: he brought up Julius Randall. Their task. Let's move to

802
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: our next one. He had thirty four points, seventeen boards.

803
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: He was a monster last night. The Knicks capitalized another

804
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 3: Hawks injury to coast to the one thirteen eighty nine

805
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: victory in MSG. Atlanta lost to Jontay Murray. Like what

806
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: three and a half minutes into this game left ankle injury.

807
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 3: They're already without John Collins, already without DeAndre Hunter. Hawks

808
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 3: were down twenty eight points, their fifth loss in seven games.

809
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: This is on the heels of the tensions rising there

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00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 3: between Nate McMillan and Treyon. It's not good here in

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Speaker 3: Atlanta right now. So I want to know, are you

812
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: up or down? Tk Getta started on Hawks coach Nate

813
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: McMillan surviving the hot seat here, surviving for the next

814
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 3: month for the season the podcast. Yeah, I joked last

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00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: night that you watch, he'll be fired twenty minutes after

816
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 3: we stop recording today. But what do you think.

817
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe maybe Dejonte Murray and all the rest

818
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 4: of the injuries gives him a little bit of coverage here,

819
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 4: but I'm down. That seemed to me a pretty clear

820
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: we are tuned out performance from Atlanta last night. To

821
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Speaker 4: lose like that against the Knicks, who are you know,

822
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 4: a fair team, a fine team to get completely smoked,

823
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Speaker 4: especially like with Trey Young coming in wearing his King

824
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 4: of Broadway sneakers, like you gotta show up and do

825
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 4: something there, And also like I think it's also a

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Speaker 4: strike against Nate McMillan that, like, we're not talking about

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Speaker 4: Greg Popovich here, We're not talking about Brad Stevens. In

828
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Speaker 4: his heyday. Nate McMillan is one of several coaches who

829
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 4: is a fine coach, so there's no impetus to have

830
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 4: to keep him around. I don't think we like he's

831
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 4: gonna be the guy that's building out your culture and

832
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 4: this kind of stuff. He definitely helped turn the team

833
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: around after Lloyd Pierce was fired, so I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine that he sticks around for a whole

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Speaker 4: lot longer.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna get some time here. Oh, they

837
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: got smacked, absolutely smacked by a next team yesterday. I

838
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 2: will give him the de Jonte goes out there playing

839
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 2: a totally different style again and Nate can't make the threes.

840
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: I mean, they were just bad out there. Bogg Dan

841
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: was zero for ten, Griffin was one for eight. They

842
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 2: shot sixteen percent from three point land yesterday. So it

843
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: was a terrible night. Trey unfortunately didn't show up. The

844
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: trace slander out there is getting hot and heavy right

845
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: now that Trey is not a star in this league

846
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 2: even you know, he's falling down into sort of the

847
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: the common Twitter fans pecking order. It's a little nuts.

848
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: He's still good. He didn't have a great night, but

849
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: it was it was. It was a weird night. I

850
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: don't know how long late Nate lasts, but I think

851
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: he will have He'll have time again. This team is

852
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: above five hundred team. Yeah, so there's time. I think.

853
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: I think they still have time. This is a second

854
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: half type of team. The Trey Young's teams have been

855
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: second half type of teams. It's crappy watching them. They

856
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: did fight back. I don't think he hasn't lost the

857
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: locker room to me because I think they did fight

858
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: back in the second quarter where there were some good minutes,

859
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: but they got they really got smacked. And they can't

860
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: get smacked like this every night. But I'm in Trey's

861
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: corner in terms of just his ability to lead a

862
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 2: team and him and de Jonte. Hopefully de Jonte comes

863
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 2: back right.

864
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: Navan Millan shot thirty four percent from three in his career.

865
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 3: How many three he made? Yeah, a lot of them.

866
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: He played eleven seasons and that guy didn't miss a

867
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: ton of games. But it's a different game back there

868
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: in the uh, you know, late eighties, early nineties, I

869
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 3: went way too much. Wow ninety eight, I mean that's wild, right.

870
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 4: That was pretty crazy.

871
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, times change, Times haven't change.

872
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: Uh.

873
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see here with Nate McMillan holding on to

874
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: his job, Yes, he's got the excuses of a lot

875
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 3: of guys out of lineup right now. But off of

876
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: the whole beef with Trey Young, they gotta get a

877
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 3: win here, and it's not like they're playing like these

878
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 3: juggernaut teams, So you gotta you gotta get those dubs

879
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 3: or they're gonna be forced to move off of him.

880
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: They're not trading Tray Young. They might be trying to

881
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: trade some of their other guys, but that's not han't

882
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: happened yet, So it's just unfortunately, usually the coach up next.

883
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 3: But we'll see next one. We have a new team.

884
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: Excuse me a top the Western Conference standings. Zion posted

885
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 3: twenty nine to ten as the Pelicans held off the

886
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: Pistons New Orleans fifth straight victory. The win, paired with

887
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 3: that Sun's loss, moved the Pels into first place in

888
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 3: the Western Conference, standing sixteen and eight record. JD. I

889
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 3: think you got the standings there for everybody, and it

890
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: is nice of your Repelicans fan to sit atop the West.

891
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 3: I mean, we're a good chunk into the season here.

892
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: When was the last time they did this? Probably Chris

893
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 3: Paul Days, I assume if that. I don't even know

894
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: if that's for sure, but there you go. So the

895
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: question is are you up or down on the Pelicans'

896
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: chances of winning the West? Yeah? Are you that much

897
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 3: of a believer in the Pelicans? Will they get this

898
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: new trophy for the best record in the league? Probably not.

899
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 3: Celtics probably have that wrapped up.

900
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: But what about the West? I kind of thought when

901
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: the trophy came out that they'd do it for each.

902
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 3: Comment, don't worry, give it a couple of years.

903
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: But I checked on hockey they don't. The Presidents Trophy

904
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: just goes to the top, top dog, top top of

905
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: the tops. Now, of course it's unlikely the Pelicans win it,

906
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: but but but, but let's throw some butts in there. Yeah,

907
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: brand Inger's got to come back. Ceg McCom can't play

908
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: this bad for that long. So I just want to

909
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: know about my boy, Jose al Varono before I make

910
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: a decision on this. He went down, team was surrounding him,

911
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: it's their boy. He left the game and he ran.

912
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: Into a pick from Duran and then yeah, he went

913
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: down like clutching sort of his chest. He probably bruised

914
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: his rib. I think the extrays were negative. He was

915
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: back on the bench, but you never know with an

916
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 3: injury like that.

917
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: Okay, well, hopefully he comes back as high as I

918
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: am on the Pelicans, I am gonna say down. I

919
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: am going to say, there's just there's the Sons are there,

920
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: the Nuggets are there, Jamal Murray is coming along. It's

921
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: a very much a Pelicans versus the field situation here

922
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: for me, and uh yeah, I'm I'm just being realistic.

923
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: I want to jump on the Pelicans bandwagon. And I

924
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: do think Brandon Ingram comes back in and they finally

925
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 2: play together again. They haven't played a lot together. They're

926
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: Big three, so it's just asking a lot for a

927
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: young team to be the number one seed in the West.

928
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 3: Upper down TK on their chances here, you're saying number

929
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 3: one seed is a question. Yeah, it ain't gonna happen.

930
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, they're also not going to win the Western Conference

931
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 4: like once it comes to playoff time. Twelve to one

932
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 4: odds though right now, I mean I can see it

933
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 4: happening one out of twelve times. Perhaps the top ten

934
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball. That's a good indicator

935
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 4: for future success. They've got veterans with a ton of

936
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 4: playoff experience and CJ. McCollum, Valentiunis, even Larry Nancy Junior

937
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 4: went to the finals with Cleveland once upon a time.

938
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 4: They haven't played together unfortunately in the playoffs. Six combined

939
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 4: playoff games from Brandon Ingram and Zion Williamson. That's a problem.

940
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 4: And I'm also gonna be a little interested to see

941
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 4: how a front court of Zion and Jonas Valentiunis holds

942
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 4: up in a playoff series when it's like, we're picking

943
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 4: on you every single time down the court, and if

944
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 4: it's not you, we're gonna pick on the other slow

945
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 4: guy out there. We'll see how that turns out. But

946
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 4: they're impossible to beat in the regular season. They're not

947
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 4: a gimmea game at all. And the way Zion's playing

948
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 4: right now, he's plus twelve thousand, five hundred for MVP.

949
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 4: That's a good bets in there. He could potentially win

950
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 4: MVP if they go on a twenty one game win

951
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 4: stream and that was.

952
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 2: Like three thousand before the season. It's gone up like crazy,

953
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 2: which makes sense.

954
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because them and the Celtics are running away.

955
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: Great, but yeah, I mean, don't bet night they.

956
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 3: Win the West. There was in striking distance of a

957
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 3: Celtics record. Let's just say hypothetically, Zion's gonna be the guy.

958
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: I mean, wow, that's crazy the odds there you brought

959
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 3: up picking on Did you see what happened last night?

960
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: Pistons were physical with Ion like that, You're seeing this

961
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: more and more. Try and be physical with this guy

962
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: who's like a monster, pulling him to the floor and

963
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: stuff like that. Naji Marshall had enough of it last

964
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: night though. I like this. He was assessed to techt

965
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 3: FL for sticking up basically for Zion Williams because he

966
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 3: got pulled down. I think it was Corey Joseph wrapped

967
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 3: him up and he's like just sort of drag him

968
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: into the ground. But Marshall came. He didn't come screaming in,

969
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: but he came in and said some things and did

970
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: some pushing like that's our guy. And they talked about

971
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 3: it after the game, like Willie Green loved it, Zion

972
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 3: loved it. Like these guys are like, I mean, you

973
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: need that, you need to protect your stars. I know,

974
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 3: nothing really happening, but stick up for them. So that's awesome.

975
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: And then there's a funny video from at pro Pell's talk.

976
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 3: Someone I don't know if they took it or they

977
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 3: saw it somewhere. It's someone sitting courtside. So it's a

978
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: really great shot, and it's Naji Marshall explaining to the

979
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 3: referee after the technical was assessed. I guess what going on?

980
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: He says. You can hear them say, if I hit

981
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: a ref in the face, you're gonna come right, You're

982
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: gonna come over there, right. I'm protecting my guy. So

983
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 3: he's like trying to tell the referee, you know, flip

984
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 3: this around. If I punch your ref buddy in the face,

985
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: you're gonna stick up for him. So I'm doing the

986
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 3: same thing for Zion. I thought that was very funny.

987
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: Nice nice of him ruffle ed Malloy's hair.

988
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I should have made that clear. I didn't mean.

989
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: I didn't mean win the Western Conference as and get

990
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: to the finals. I met more. Could they have the

991
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 3: number one seed in the Western Conference? Are they? Are

992
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: they that good with your grizzlies and your nuggets and

993
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: your son still despite a couple of losses here, and

994
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: you know, do the Warriors go on a heater? Who knows?

995
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 4: Riddle me this, skeetsman.

996
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

997
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 4: Will the New Orleans Pelicans host a first round playoff

998
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 4: series this year? Because I think we all agree they

999
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 4: probably won't finish with the one seed. But will they

1000
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 4: be in the top four right now? Pelicans, Sons, Grizzlies, Nuggets.

1001
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 3: That's tough.

1002
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 4: Teams you would think maybe would get in the mix,

1003
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 4: Dallas and Golden State. I kind of think that's really

1004
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 4: about it. Maybe the Clippers, But I don't have a

1005
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 4: lot of faith, you know what, I'll say, Yeah, I

1006
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 4: think you're right. Yeah, I think they could be a

1007
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 4: four or five, the.

1008
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: Big tasty and the big easy hosting a big game

1009
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 3: one himself, that's right, a lot of big Yeah, yeah, sure,

1010
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: why not? I do feel like they're going to be.

1011
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: They're like a really good regular season team. They're proving

1012
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 3: that because all their main guys, star guys is like

1013
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 3: in and out of the lineup, not really playing together

1014
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 3: all that much, and they keep racking up wins. And

1015
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 3: their hottest team in the league right now, basically along

1016
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: with the Celtics.

1017
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: And they've got a veteran vibe to them as well,

1018
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 2: like the way they were able to deal with the

1019
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 2: Suns last year in the first round. That was a

1020
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: really tough series without Zion Wims and they went to

1021
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: six games. They fought every single game, and so I

1022
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 2: think they don't feel like kids, even though they've got

1023
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: the vibe of the Memphis Grizzlies last year. Here comes

1024
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: their superstar and Zion versus Jaw their first playoff hopefully

1025
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: position here for the first playoff run. They started like that.

1026
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 2: You mentioned all those old guys beside them, all the

1027
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: veteran guys, and they played just really tough. Now they

1028
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: were eleven and eight not too long ago, and now

1029
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: they're sixteen and eight all of a sudden because they

1030
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 2: had a five game win streak against teams that they

1031
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: should beat and OK see beating up Toronto team San Antonio,

1032
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: the Pistons they beat down for So the thing is,

1033
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: like you said, though, when they do have McCollum, brandon

1034
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: Ingram and Zion together, they played really really well. They

1035
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 2: haven't had that lot, only nine games where they've played

1036
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: twenty minutes together, so that's half their games. And I

1037
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: think they will gel the recipe is good and against CJ.

1038
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 2: McCollum can't play as bad. He can't, but he's sort

1039
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: of out of that point guard role now and I

1040
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: think that helps. It's just too much for him. Zion's

1041
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 2: the point guard on this team really when it comes

1042
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: down to it. So they've Wow, they've done it really well.

1043
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: This is early. This is earlier in they're ahead of

1044
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: the game, the Wolves, they're behind. The Pelicans are ahead

1045
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: of the trajectory that we.

1046
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: Thought final one here in the updown report yesterday, the

1047
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 3: NBA unveiled its newest designs for some of its end

1048
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 3: of season trophies. Now, we slipped in this news earlier

1049
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: in the week about this new Maurice potal Loft Trophy,

1050
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 3: which is a new award going to the team with

1051
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 3: the best record in the league after eighty two games.

1052
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 3: But we got a bunch of new designs here. They

1053
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 3: all look pretty similar, besides that one that's gonna go

1054
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 3: to the best team record. We're showing it to everybody

1055
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 3: on YouTube right now. We got the Twine and Stokes Trophy,

1056
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: Teammate of the Year, Joe Dumar's Trophy for Sportsmanship, the

1057
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: Red Hourback Trophy, that's now been renamed. That's the Coach

1058
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 3: of the Year Executive of the Year award. Is that,

1059
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: you know pyramid on the.

1060
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 4: End, iconic pyramid, iconic five sided pyramid, that's right.

1061
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: Yes, for all five players reaching to one goal.

1062
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: Of the iconic upper down five players on a team.

1063
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 3: Yes, I know, I know up or down on these

1064
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 3: redesigned trophies for these end of season awards and in

1065
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 3: some cases trey you know, renamed trophies.

1066
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 4: What do you think I'll give you one of beach skeats.

1067
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 4: I'm an up and a down court on this number one.

1068
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 4: I prefer statues to class use. Statues look cooler, like

1069
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 4: it looks much cooler holding up a statue of a

1070
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 4: basketball player than it does as a piece of glass.

1071
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 4: But the thing I do like is that now that

1072
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 4: the MVP Trophy doesn't have a name, it's gonna be

1073
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 4: renamed for Michael Jordan, which it should be. So that's

1074
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 4: my take. Okay, I'm glad that they no longer are

1075
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 4: naming the MVP Trophy after an executive and it will

1076
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 4: soon be named after a play player.

1077
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: All right, and you think it'll be mj it should be. Yeah,

1078
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 3: I guess I guess you can only argue with like, Uh,

1079
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 3: Bill Russell already has.

1080
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: His own award.

1081
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 4: Everybody else has a trophy except Kareem He has the

1082
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 4: Social Justice Champion.

1083
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: Oh, I forgot about that one. Okay, then it's MJ.

1084
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 3: But what do you think of these designs here? And

1085
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 3: do you agree with Trey like this?

1086
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 2: Uh?

1087
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: These glass things, it looks like I don't know, look

1088
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 3: till you can put some wine in it.

1089
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 2: I think they look like vases. Yeah, I know they Yeah. Yeah,

1090
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: So I like a base on mine. I like the

1091
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: potoal Off Trophy for the best team record. Why not

1092
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 2: throw something on there? Even the base just gives it something. Now, overall,

1093
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: why not get why not make trophies? Why not? Right?

1094
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: Because it's content for us, it's content for the league.

1095
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 3: I can't wait to have a thirty minute debate about

1096
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 3: who should win the Joe Dumars Sportsmanship Trophy when we

1097
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 3: get to March in April.

1098
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 4: Well, don't confuse it with the teammates.

1099
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 3: Well, I know, I know, very differently different.

1100
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1101
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: Dumars, by the way, won the first ever Sportsmanship Trophy,

1102
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 3: and I guess that's why they're naming it after him

1103
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 3: and he.

1104
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 4: Works for the weak.

1105
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's that too.

1106
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you don't I think, Yeah, I think. I

1107
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 2: think it's a smart idea. Photo ops. Let's have them,

1108
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 2: unless unless for the league it's smart. The Twine and

1109
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 2: Stokes press conferences in the past, I don't remember them now,

1110
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: maybe I'm a bad teammate, but why not have a

1111
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 2: photo op with a sort of a trophy where they're

1112
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 2: they're all uniform. That makes sense. I mean the trophy

1113
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: design just could be better. Yeah, I think that's all

1114
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: we're trying.

1115
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: Love how they all look the same. They look they're

1116
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 3: all the same, except the little thing's been changed in

1117
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 3: the inside of this glass vase, as you called it,

1118
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 3: and that's it.

1119
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they would have a little bit more gravitas,

1120
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: even if they look the same upon a base.

1121
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like, okay, okay, so the Coach of the

1122
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 3: Year trophy. Now we now have the Red hour Back,

1123
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 3: which I'm totally fine calling after him if you look

1124
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 3: inside of it and you can't really tell all that. Well,

1125
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: that's Red Hourback in his classic pose with like you know,

1126
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 3: the stat sheet or whatever in one hand, or his

1127
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 3: play calls in one hand and the cigar in the other.

1128
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 3: But remember there was an awesome coach of the Air

1129
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: Trophy where it was like basically that right, it was

1130
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 3: the I don't know if it was Red, but it

1131
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,479
Speaker 3: was a coach sitting on a bench, and I thought

1132
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 3: it like, looks sort of cool. And so it's so

1133
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 3: similar to these other ones.

1134
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 2: It's like, so you want a unique one across were all.

1135
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 3: Look the same. I don't think that's asking for a lot.

1136
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: Well, you see what they tried to accomplish your skeets

1137
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 2: is they tried to have a uniform look across the

1138
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,959
Speaker 2: board while having their own identities within it. So you're saying,

1139
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: you're telling me, you're telling me Red is sitting there

1140
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: with the cigar in the statue.

1141
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah he is.

1142
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: It's hard to see from here, but I think when

1143
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: we get into the press conference, when Taylor Jenkins accepts it.

1144
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 3: Or whoever accepts it, will that's the better one. Maybe.

1145
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see a close up. I think I think you're.

1146
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 3: Gonna see a photo of squinting at it, going which

1147
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 3: one did I win? Oh Man, did I win sportsmanship?

1148
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 3: A coach wins sportsmanship?

1149
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1150
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 3: I don't know which one I won.

1151
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 2: I think Will Hardy's gonna be photo opping with a

1152
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 2: cigar himself. He's gonna be mimicking the hour back look with.

1153
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 4: A commemorative cigar. I think, okay, you open up that

1154
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 4: case then then.

1155
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: Make a yeah, make the award a humidor.

1156
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 2: Or something like oh JD zoomed in.

1157
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't you can't tell.

1158
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: Okay, that's pixelate. I think in real life we'll be

1159
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: able to tell.

1160
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 3: All right, I'm just a grumpy gus here.

1161
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 2: Doesn't happen? Can you put flowers in it?

1162
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 3: No, it's not all right. Let's hear from you guys.

1163
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: With all of those in the up down report thumbs up,

1164
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 3: her thumbs down, everybody here in the stream team dropping

1165
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 3: their thumbs watching later. Let us know in the comments

1166
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 3: section if you're listening, tweet at us at no dunk sink.

1167
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 3: Let's take our final break, and when we come back,

1168
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 3: we got pick them results, and we've got a video

1169
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 3: off of something we talked about yesterday, which leads to

1170
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 3: tweet of the night.

1171
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

1172
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 3: Pick them results from last night. Oh boy, I took

1173
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 3: the Suns as the tiny dog at home to the

1174
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 3: mighty Boston Celtics. And that was a huge l for me.

1175
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 2: A point to play with, though I did I could

1176
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: have used one.

1177
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: Hundred points to play with then I would have covered.

1178
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 3: Uh So I followed two and three. It's a win

1179
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 3: for task four and one. Trey, he's on a run.

1180
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 3: He's two and three, so we're tied in last place.

1181
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 3: What's tonight's game?

1182
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: A three night game in the Association this evening, the

1183
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: old classic Thursday night doubleheader on NBA TV. They don't

1184
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 2: do it on TANT yet, although first game on ABC

1185
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: this Saturday.

1186
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 3: It's a good one in theory rematch of the finals.

1187
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: Right, Warriors Boston and the Warriors No Wigans though it

1188
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 2: ain't the same, it ain't the same going up against

1189
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: Hockey Night in Canada. I don't know how it'll do anyway.

1190
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: Denver versus Portland tonight in Portland.

1191
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good battle. It's a good pick. We

1192
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 3: got some tight lines going.

1193
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: It's only a one and a half point line. You

1194
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: got a point to play with, So Trey's got that

1195
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: point to play with. If at the Blazers can lose

1196
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: by one at home, yet Trey will come out victorious.

1197
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: Now if the Blazers win out right, of course, Trey

1198
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: will come out victorious. Now, if the Denver Nuggets win

1199
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 2: by one point, Trey will come out victorious. The Nuggets

1200
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: do not cover if they win by one point. They

1201
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: need to win by two or more points to cover

1202
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: the point spread. Now, why don't you just say, why

1203
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 2: don't you just bet on money on money line? Straight up?

1204
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: SU's mls. While the odds are different, that's how gambling works.

1205
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 2: Just to get into it a little bit more. The

1206
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: odds are worse if you pick the money line for

1207
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets in this stancetance, although if you pick

1208
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: the money line for the Portland Trailblazers, it's better than

1209
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 2: picking the point spread. That's how they even it out.

1210
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 2: Then they take the juice and you're screwed. Don't gamble

1211
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: was a sponsored by bed ENNGY.

1212
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 3: I didn't know what was going on.

1213
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, I could do it. We'll do it.

1214
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: It's tough if you've never done it before, it's very confusing.

1215
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 3: But then once you do it, or you follow it.

1216
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: A little bit, yeah, the spreads.

1217
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, let's get to tweeted the night.

1218
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

1219
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 2: Tweet out the Nut. Wow.

1220
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 3: Okay, yesterday we were talking about Joey Chestnut, the competitive eater,

1221
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 3: just crushing perogies at halftime of the Lakers Cavaliers game

1222
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 3: the other night. So we got the clip. You know,

1223
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 3: look away if you're not a fan of somebody scarfing

1224
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 3: the parogis in his throat and his mouth and washing

1225
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 3: them up. See why I thought that its like beer.

1226
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 3: By the way, it's that yellow cup gold. Yeah, I

1227
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 3: thought it was beer. But it's water anyway, sour cream

1228
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 3: out there. Lup it up, wash it down anyway. This

1229
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 3: guy try thinks he's an American hero and he took

1230
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 3: down forty seven parogies in whatever time it was. It

1231
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 3: wasn't a lot of minutes. Yeah, exactly, so ty Trey tweeted,

1232
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 3: look at all the crap on his face here, Remember

1233
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: I bring this up. Watch he's gonna turn. Hey, dude,

1234
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 3: you got a little parogi on your chin. Man, right,

1235
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 3: there's still there. You didn't get it all here. Just

1236
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 3: hold this belt though, still there. He's saving that for

1237
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 3: later he gets hungry anyway. Trey tweeted, Joey Chestnut is

1238
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 3: the greatest champion in all of sports. Good tweet off

1239
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: of yesterday's show that's not tweeted the night though. One

1240
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 3: of the responses I saw made me laugh and I

1241
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 3: thought it was a great idea. At Mike Egan tweeted

1242
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 3: back to Trey. He replied to Trey, Okay, but as

1243
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 3: far as halftime entertainment, watching a guy house fifty parogis

1244
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 3: is not super thrilling. You could debate that, but I

1245
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 3: get what Mike's saying. I think we should instead do

1246
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 3: free parogi night. But Joey Chestnut is stalking the concourse

1247
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: and he can steal and eat your free parogi if

1248
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 3: you aren't careful. So you always got to be like

1249
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: looking over your shoulder if there's a Joey Chestnut trying

1250
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: to get your parogi. And Mike added to that it

1251
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 3: was a second tweet tweet every parogi he eats could

1252
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 3: be like ten dollars to charity, So it's like hoard

1253
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 3: your parogi's. But even if it gets you ten dollars

1254
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 3: to charity, that I don't know if you have to

1255
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 3: give or the team gives. But we could figure that out.

1256
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 4: Maker the producer, Yeah, sure, yeah, we got it. Like

1257
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 4: a chestnut can that you can watch on the NBA Yeah,

1258
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 4: it's just him creeping through the crowd looking for some

1259
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 4: not paying attention to their perogis sour cream in hand

1260
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 4: just in case? Sure? Why not?

1261
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 3: What do you think of Mike's idea here? And do

1262
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 3: you agree that watching I guess not.

1263
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: You were like, my mouth is, my mouth is watering,

1264
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 2: I may vomit. I don't like the opposite of the

1265
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 2: opposite of salivating. I've gone through. It's like, I don't know,

1266
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: twenty hours of disgustingness. Because we talked about yesterday. We

1267
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 2: talked about Kobayashi, the man who made competitive eating a thing. Okay,

1268
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: I know chest Night Chestnut might be.

1269
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 3: The gut between you guys. He's in team Kobys.

1270
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: I'm the old guy. Yeah, kobayash she chewed so chestnut

1271
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 2: could much fall. Yeah, okay, Kobyashi sipped so chestnut could chug.

1272
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: Great because I ended up after our conversation watching Kobayashi

1273
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: chug a gallon of milk. I was discussed it and

1274
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: then and then in my suggested videos, I saw, yeah,

1275
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: chestnut eight thirty two big macs in one sitting. That's

1276
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: the that's the world record. And I was just discussed

1277
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 2: it's just disgusting. I would watch though, I would go

1278
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 2: back and watch we are the champions. There's a hot

1279
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 2: pepper eating contest. It's a it's a Netflix series about

1280
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: oh yeah yeah yeah, so the hot pepper eating contest.

1281
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 2: I'd go back and watch that one. And that was

1282
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 2: hard to watch. It was very difficult to watch. But

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Speaker 2: those are competitors, Chestnut, I've had enough chest, Okay, I've

1284
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 2: had enough chest.

1285
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 3: A couple of things off of yesterday's discussion, we weren't

1286
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 3: really sure. You found the clip of Kobyashi chugging that

1287
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 3: gallon of milk that we saw in person live, by

1288
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 3: the way, gallon of milk three point eight leaders.

1289
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so close to four leaders, like a gallon of gas.

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01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and JD you thought it took you know, we

1291
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 3: were debating five seconds. He did it ten seconds. I

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01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 3: guess the official count was eighteen seconds of him consuming

1293
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 3: and you know what, Tess found it. I thought about

1294
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 3: ripping it and showing it everyone, but then I was like,

1295
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: this isn't that entertain It wasn't that exciting.

1296
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 2: Now the whole thing isn't exciting watching people chug and eat.

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01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 5: That kind of had to be there. Yeah, there, that

1298
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 5: was amazed.

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01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you could hear Matt Who and Huller

1300
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 3: on the video.

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01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kobe, he started it with his patented.

1302
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 2: And then he was into it.

1303
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 3: Oh so then you know, I start talking ship in

1304
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 3: the slack because this guy's team Chestnut. Trey Kurby over

1305
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 3: here calling him a great American hero. Sure, I won't

1306
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 3: debate that, but I said, Kobyashi, you know he's a

1307
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 3: man of liquids. Let's see Chestnut do that. Trey Kirby

1308
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 3: in mere seconds is firing back at me and the

1309
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 3: slack with a link showing that Chestnut took down a

1310
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 3: gallon of milk in thirteen seconds, so five seconds less

1311
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 3: less than Kobyashi.

1312
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 4: Joe Chess, Hey man, you're right, guy's unstoppable.

1313
01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you called Kobayashi George Mike.

1314
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, call him Magic Johnson.

1315
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 3: If somebody said Steph Curry because he changed the.

1316
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: Game, somebody changed the rules, really change the rules, Kareem

1317
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 2: Shack Mike, And yeah, so if.

1318
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 3: Curry is Kobyashi, then is so whose chestnut is he?

1319
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 4: Jordan's Well, that's why that's why I would say, thinking

1320
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 4: about it, Kobyashi has got to be He's both Magic

1321
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 4: Johnson and Larry.

1322
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 3: Because good.

1323
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 4: They helped save the NBA, kind of put the NBA

1324
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 4: on the map. Same for Kobyashi and the competitive eating.

1325
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 4: But then Michael Jordan Joey Chestnut comes around and he's

1326
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 4: just better. Okay, he's just better. If you want to

1327
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 4: get disgusted, just read the list of records the Joey

1328
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 4: Chestnut has in every discipline of competitive eating, like perogis,

1329
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 4: he ate forty seven How much time did he have

1330
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 4: to eat halftime as I don't know, twelve minutes They

1331
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 4: probably did five minutes his record. He holds the world

1332
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 4: record of course in speed parogi eating one hundred and

1333
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 4: sixty five and eight minutes. He wasn't even trying.

1334
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 3: And sixty five and eight minutes. I bet that was

1335
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 3: three minutes. Then maybe he was.

1336
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 2: He was chilling.

1337
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 4: He was probably enjoying that one. That wasn't even a

1338
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 4: game for him.

1339
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 3: He got paid to do that, by the way, think

1340
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 3: about that. Of course, man show up, you know, I

1341
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 3: assume they covered the parogies too, and the commemorative Calv's

1342
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 3: Cup that he got to take home. Yeah, when did

1343
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 3: he get paid? What did he get paid to show

1344
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 3: up to a Cleveland game, to eat a bunch of

1345
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 3: parogies five.

1346
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 4: K and as many parogies as you can eat.

1347
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 2: That's always our debate. What did the halftime acts make?

1348
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 2: And usually they sing, they dance.

1349
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 3: They do a cool, weird thing that nobody else can do.

1350
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: But this, this person. As much as I love oh,

1351
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 2: I love the Burden magic, I love that. Without yeah,

1352
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 2: without Kobayashi, people would just be eating regular amounts of food.

1353
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 2: He saved it for chestnut. Chestnut should thank kowey Ashi

1354
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 2: every time he puts back a rogie.

1355
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 3: He should having a rogue.

1356
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 5: What's his record on eating chestnuts?

1357
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 3: I wonder, Yeah, what's the food he hates?

1358
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:21,919
Speaker 2: What's like some gigs? Right?

1359
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 4: All right, here's a I don't know. I mean, like,

1360
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 4: this would be a great podcast. What's the craziest sounding one?

1361
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 4: How many pounds of poutine do you think Joey Chestnut

1362
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 4: ate in ten minutes? Pounds pounds, it's measured in pounds

1363
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 4: more twenty.

1364
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: Put me down for twelve twenty eight pounds of poutine

1365
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: and how long ten minutes?

1366
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 2: That's two pounds a minute.

1367
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 3: That's his nuts tobler. Okay, I can't even wrap my

1368
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 3: head around that one. Yeah, that's hard to remember. We

1369
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 3: got when we were doing our final show in Toronto,

1370
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 3: the Raptors mascot and the Raptors brought out like a

1371
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 3: steaming hot favorite clips just the us trying to you

1372
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 3: eating scorching it was. It's scorching hot gravy.

1373
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 2: Man, like what it was great?

1374
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was great, all right?

1375
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then we had a pootine eating contest.

1376
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you did really well in that one.

1377
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah it wasn't twenty eight.

1378
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 3: No, no, a pound, maybe a pound a play of heavy.

1379
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 3: It's gravy and fries and kurts. That's got some weight.

1380
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 4: This was in Toronto. Actually smokes Poutinery World Pootine Eating Championship.

1381
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 3: I respect. Yeah, it's good. Oh man, we're still podcasting.

1382
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 3: Let's call it there though.

1383
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 5: One one thing that.

1384
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: You you were quoting movies throughout the entire show. I

1385
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: didn't keep it tally, but I did like the Glenn

1386
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: Gary Glenn Ross that you threw in there. I don't

1387
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: even know if you meant it Coffee is for closer.

1388
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah you did. But buckle up, you said

1389
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: right off the top, and I was like, that's in

1390
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: so many movies, so I put Jerome to work, Oh

1391
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: my god, and uh, you didn't find them all, but

1392
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: he found something.

1393
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 2: So here they are. Buckle up because here they come.

1394
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 4: Buckle up back there, up, Buckle up, Jim, buckle up, bonehead,

1395
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 4: sit down and buckle up.

1396
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 2: Buckle up, you buckle up.

1397
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 3: Lovely, buckle uper, Buckle up, buckle up up.

1398
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 2: Amazing.

1399
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some of them shows shows you're not showing me.

1400
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 3: Jerome bore and clipped all of those that had.

1401
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 5: That is the that's the story we're running.

1402
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 2: Okay, great, great, I think he did it.

1403
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: Uh, Joey Chestnut before he does any of his eating contests,

1404
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 3: you think he says, get him up, belly. What's on

1405
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 3: with that? We got two new shows none no Dunk's

1406
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 3: related coming up later this week Today one pm Eastern

1407
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 3: live over on the No Buffs YouTube feed, we'll be

1408
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 3: recapping Survivor forty three's episode twelve, the second last episode,

1409
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 3: the penultimate episode of the season, and it was a banger.

1410
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it.

1411
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 3: Was so good. There's so much to talk about. So

1412
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 3: that's at one pm Eastern. We'll flip it into a

1413
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 3: podcast No Buffs Search for that. If you're a Survivor

1414
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 3: fan and then tomorrow a new Is This Good podcast

1415
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 3: and TK called it. Joe Mandy is the special guest

1416
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 3: on Is This Good? With Mattio and JD. And I'm

1417
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 3: excited about these topics. The bathroom Attendant. I can't wait

1418
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,479
Speaker 3: to hear everybody's thoughts on whether that's good. And Joe

1419
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 3: Mandy included, so get yeah, tarot cards, I believe is

1420
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 3: the specific angle and what's the last one? Rally caps

1421
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 3: or just the best?

1422
01:07:58,640 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 2: Being a fan of.

1423
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 3: The New York I thought it was rally caps, but

1424
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 3: maybe superstitions when it comes to sports, is it possible?

1425
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 2: Maybe? Well?

1426
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: Also, Joe, he shows those custom caps, so it might

1427
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: be what custom embrewerys.

1428
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 3: That's a very specific topic. But anyway, that's Is This Good?

1429
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 3: That's tomorrow, that's on Friday. So go search for Is

1430
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 3: This Good on YouTube and wherever you download and listen

1431
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 3: to the podcasts and subscribe. Make Maddio's holiday season by

1432
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:30,799
Speaker 3: doing that, right, it's.

1433
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: A great It's a celebrates the holidays. Matt celebrates the.

1434
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 3: Holidays big that guy, Joe Mandy being Honika guy as well, Right, JD,

1435
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 3: you love honicut I.

1436
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 2: Live for Okay, good last day Onnica same day as

1437
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: Christmas this year. What a day.

1438
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 3: Well, all right, we'll see you guys tomorrow for the

1439
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 3: Drop podcast. It's Friday tomorrow, right, not weird it is. Yeah,

1440
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 3: I feel like a it's been a story arrangement. But

1441
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 3: we'll have the Drop podcast, So we'll see you then tomorrow. Tenning,

1442
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 3: I'm Eastern live here on YouTube.

1443
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: Clever bros.

1444
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 4: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1445
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

1446
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember Hanukah Christmas they get

1447
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,839
Speaker 2: all the they get all the love. What about Kwansa

1448
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 2: Quantsa is coming, quants is coming later? I think it's

1449
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 2: January first, second, third?

1450
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 3: Is this said? Christmas is in January? Something too?

1451
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:28,480
Speaker 2: Always it seventh, seventh? Yeah, old calendars, these Eastern Euros.

1452
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 2: What are we gonna do? What we're gonna do. We're

1453
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 2: gonna have it now. Just have it on the twenty fifth.

1454
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 3: Just to put every holiday on the same day so

1455
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 3: we can just work more.

1456
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 2: So. Yeah, actually I'm taking it off. Greeks celebrated on

1457
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 2: the seventh. I'm taking those days off in the calendar.

1458
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see you guys. My brace to the day people,