1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: And then something happened to him over a fairly short 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: period of time. Looks like he was radicalized over the internet, 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: and it's radicalized on the left. He's a left, a 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: lot of problems with the left, and they get protected 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: and they shouldn't be protected. But as you understand, I 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: think very well from the Tony new question. 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 2: If you're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: Ben ferguson. 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: Good Tuesday morning, it's so nice to have you with 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: us on the forty seven Morning Update. And we've got 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: one big story and it involves law enforcement, the FBI 12 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 3: looking into individuals who appeared to have known about Charlie 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: Kirk's assassination beforehand. And we also have new DNA evidence 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 3: tying the shooter to the crime scene. All right, I 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 3: want to take a moment and I want to talk 16 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: to you real quick about what you can do to 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 3: help the people in Israel. It was nearly two years 18 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: ago that the terrorists murdered more than twelve hundred innocent 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: Israelis and they took two hundred and fifty hostages. Today, 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: it seems as if the cries of the dead and 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: dying have been drowned out by the shouts of anti 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 3: Semitism and just pure hatred, not just in America but 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: around the world. And the most brutal attack on Jewish 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: people happened. It happened since the Holocausts, and now it's 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,639 Speaker 3: like they're trying to act like it never happened. Now, 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: this is where it is important for us to stand 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: with the people in Israel. It's a movement of love 28 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: and support for the people of Israel, and this is 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: where I want you to get involved. It is called 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: Flags of Fellowship. It's being organized by the International Fellowship 31 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: of Christians and Jews. On October fifth, you can stand 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 3: with Israel and the victims proudly. Just a few weeks away, 33 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: millions across America will prayerfully plant an Israeli flag in 34 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: honor and solidarity with the victims of October the seventh, 35 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, and stand with their grieving families. Can 36 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: be a part of this movement as well. And that's 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: what I love about what IFCJ does. They're making sure 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: that the world knows there are lots of people of 39 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: faith in this country and friends and advocates for Israel. 40 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 3: They're going to stand with them. You can get more 41 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 3: information about how you can join the Flags of Fellowship movement, 42 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: including your church. There are going to be countless churches 43 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: around the country. They're going to plant flags as well. 44 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: So all you have to do to get involved with 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: Flags of Fellowship movement is go to IFCJ dot org. 46 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 3: That's IFCJ dot org. Stand with Israel on October the fifth, 47 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: it's just a few weeks away. And if your church 48 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 3: you think would want to be involved, you can also 49 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: find out more about how to get your church to 50 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: be involved on a special Sunday at IFCJ dot org. 51 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: That's if CJ dot org. It's the forty seven Morning 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: Update and it starts right now. Story number one FBI 53 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: Deputy Director Dan Bonngino coming out telling Fox News that 54 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: there appears to have been multiple warning signs that pointed 55 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 3: to the suspect in Charlie Kirk's assassination prior to that 56 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: shooting taking place. Speaking to Bill Himmer, Bongino said, not 57 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: only does there appear to have been multiple warning signs, 58 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: but there were people in the suspect's network, friends and 59 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: family who had stated that he become more political. He 60 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 3: went on to say, I believe some of his co 61 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: workers said that he had kind of detached himself when 62 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: the topic of politics came up and walked away from them. 63 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: He added that it seems ideology had infected him and 64 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: had taken over. I want you to hear more of 65 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: what the FBI Deputy director had to say on Fox 66 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: about what we know about him, how we were able 67 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: to track him, the forensic that were involved. Listen carefully 68 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: to what he had to say. 69 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: Okay, after he fired that single fatal shot, we've got 70 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: the video of him jumping off the back side of 71 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 4: the building. Where is the gun when he drops fifteen 72 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 4: feet down to the grass below. 73 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 5: Well, if you look at the video, the gun is 74 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 5: you'll see in the back of the when you watch 75 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 5: in the video right there, it appears from the video 76 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 5: here that the gun is either in the backpack or 77 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 5: on him when he jumps down. This is where, by 78 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 5: the way, this part of the video, this is where 79 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 5: we got a significant portion of the forensic evidence in 80 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 5: the case which we had to expedite. We had a 81 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 5: number of assets, including fixed wing assets, to be able 82 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 5: to fly if obviously Salt Lake and that specific area 83 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 5: in Provo is not around the corner from FBI labs. 84 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 4: It was difficult, but. 85 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 5: We were able during that scene him grabbing that particular 86 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 5: side of the building and jumping down, we were able 87 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 5: to gather a significant amount of forensic information which we 88 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 5: expedited back to the lab, which was the key, I 89 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 5: think piece of information that we were able to crack 90 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 5: this thing open. 91 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: Oka. Looking at that video, it's hard to see the 92 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 4: weapon and that's why the question is still obvious to 93 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: me today. Cash Bettel said earlier today that he expressed 94 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: to someone that he had an opportunity to take out 95 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: the killer and was going to do it. Did that 96 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 4: person do anything with that information? 97 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what we're really disturbed about. It appears that 98 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 5: this was communicated. You see this a lot, Bill, when 99 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 5: in targeted violence cases, assassination, school shootings, where the individual 100 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 5: expresses in advance, in a good swath of these cases 101 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 5: his desire or her desire to do these specific things. 102 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 5: That appears to be the case here as well. Where 103 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 5: the intent component was there in advance and the target 104 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 5: was was the target was announced in advance prior. Now 105 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 5: that's the part we want to know where they did 106 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 5: they know and not say they Now, Bill, you have 107 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 5: to keep in mind, I don't want anyone to jump 108 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 5: to conclusions on this. Did they say it, hear it 109 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 5: and think it was some kind of a joke. That's 110 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 5: what we're trying to find out now. But I promise you, 111 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 5: if there's a larger network here, we're going to get 112 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 5: that out to the public as soon as we can. 113 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 4: We really are, Okay. The reason why this is really 114 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 4: important to your investigation understanding motive that I'll get to 115 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: in a moment here is that I believe that if 116 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 4: I've got the dates right here, that that event was 117 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 4: announced one week before it happened, and we've got the 118 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 4: reporting from over the weekend that said that the killer, 119 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: the accused killer now expressed views with his family at 120 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 4: a dinner table, and I don't know what the timeline 121 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 4: is between when that happened. Was it hours or was 122 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 4: it days? I mean, clearly it had to be at 123 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: least a couple of days, if not less. And if 124 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 4: he also expressed this opinion that he had an opportunity 125 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 4: to take our Kirk and was going to do it, well, 126 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: when was that message transmitted from this point that Charlie 127 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 4: was killed. 128 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 5: This is the troubling part of the investigation. As I 129 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 5: see it now, there appeared to have been multiple warning 130 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 5: signs you just laid out some of them. There were 131 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 5: people in his network, friends and family who had stated 132 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 5: that he had become more political, that he had become 133 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 5: at some parts. I believe some of his coworkers had 134 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 5: stated that he had kind of detached himself when the 135 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 5: topic of politics came up and walked away from them. 136 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 5: Family members said he'd become more political, leading us to 137 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 5: believe that this ideology had infected him and had taken over, 138 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 5: and he was just intent. It appears from the data 139 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 5: we've accumulated and the channel and that note, which we 140 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 5: have some evidence may have existed before based on the 141 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 5: communications in that channel, that his target was obviously going 142 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 5: to be Charlie, and that people knew in advance. The 143 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 5: question is again, and I which want to go back 144 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 5: to what you had asked before. Did they know where 145 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 5: they sure this or did they hear this and just 146 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 5: write it off. That's what we're going to have to 147 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 5: find out, and that's what we're investigating now. Bill. This 148 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 5: investigation has just begun. This isn't even the beginning of 149 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 5: the beginning. You know, Yes, we have a subject in custody. 150 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 5: You know, everybody's innocent toal proven guilty in our constitutional republic. However, 151 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 5: this is not done by any stretch. Our men and 152 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 5: women out there in the Bureau have worked tirelessly all week. 153 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 5: And I just got back to DC last night, and 154 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 5: you know, Kash and I were out there on the scene. 155 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 5: We walked the scene, We went through every single component 156 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 5: of it. We saw the evidence up close and personal, 157 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 5: and we went out there to be able to make 158 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 5: command decisions with our team on the ground. And I 159 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 5: think the process, although not perfect, of course, I think 160 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 5: the process went pretty well considered. We got him in 161 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 5: thirty thirty three. 162 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 3: You listen to Bongino there, and I think were the 163 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 3: things that he's also talking about is is there accountability 164 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: for those that knew or may have known what was 165 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 3: happening here? You go back to that key phrase. I 166 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: believe some of his coworkers say that he had kind 167 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: of attached himself. And then you move from there. He 168 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 3: referenced the note that Robinson allegedly left behind, pointing that 169 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: out out that it may have existed quote before, based 170 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 3: on communications law enforcement has recovered. He indicated the totality 171 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: of everything and makes it clear that quote his target 172 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: was obviously going to be Charlie Kirk, and that the 173 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: people around him knew that that was going to be 174 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: his target in advance. So where do you go from here? 175 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: What Bongino said is the investigators are now having to 176 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: look at this. Did they know, were they sure of this, 177 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: or did they hear this and just write it off. 178 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 3: You put all of this together, and then you put 179 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: it back to the Utah Governor Spencer Cox indication that 180 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk's legislation quote had not only left leaning political beliefs, 181 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: but clearly disliked Charlie Kirk and was telling people that. 182 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: So I have to say, there needs to be some 183 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: sort of accountability. There has to be some sort of 184 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: obviously very good and in depth investigation. What we also 185 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: know is there's no doubt that this is the guy. 186 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: The FBI confirming the DNA found at the scene of 187 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: Charlie kirk'sastination's hiding spot matches the suspect and apparently he 188 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 3: had confessed to his family and to some friends, including 189 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: in a chat room. And so with a confirmation now 190 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: that the DNA samples founded the spot where Charlie Kirk's 191 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: session hid positively matches suspect now in con custody. That 192 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 3: also is going to move us forward on another point, 193 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 3: and that is on the death penalty. Cashpittel saying this 194 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: on Fox and Friends about the DNA matching, and I. 195 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 6: Can report today that the DNA hits from the towel 196 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 6: that was rap around the firearm and the DNA on 197 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 6: the screwdriver are positively processed for the suspect in custody. 198 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: There it is Cashpattel telling you that not only did 199 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: these suspects tal that wrapped around the assassin's weapon match 200 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: the screwdriver left on the UVA rooftop, both matched the 201 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: suspect already in custody. This is incredible work, by the way, 202 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: by the men and women in law enforcement. Robinson, by 203 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: the way, also were a note saying declaring that he 204 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: had an opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and that 205 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: he was going to take it. Patel went on to 206 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 3: say as well, saying quote, we have since learned the note, 207 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: even though it was destroyed, we have found forensic evidence 208 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: of the note and we have confirmed that the said 209 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: what the note said. Because our aggressive interview posture at 210 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 3: the FBI. We also know that further DNA found on 211 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: the thirty caliber bolt action rifle with a scope believed 212 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: to have been used in the shooting is still being 213 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 3: analyzed to determine its links to Robinson as well. Patel 214 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,479 Speaker 3: also confirmed that Robinson is still not co operating with investigators. 215 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: I got to say, I am very thankful for cash Hotel, 216 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: for Dan Bongino, for all of the men and women 217 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: in law enforcement that have been working on this case 218 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: at the local, state, at the federal level. What they 219 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 3: were able to do to find him, and what they've 220 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: been able to do to make it very clear he did. 221 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 3: What he did is incredible police work. God bless him 222 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: for what they're doing. And God blessed Donald Trump, by 223 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: the way, for making sure that he picked the right 224 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: people for these jobs. 225 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to the forty seven Morning Update 226 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: with Ben Ferguson. Please make sure you hit subscribe wherever 227 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: you're listening to this podcast right now and for more 228 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: in depth news. 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