1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: What is up? Everybody. Welcome into Wednesday the issue of 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Texans All Access from Monday, Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: John Ayres, football analyst, sideline reporter, and it's our last 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of Texans All Access and it makes me 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: sad for one reason in particular, and that is our 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: guest here in this first segment. We will catch up 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: with him throughout the off season, but we were doing 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: it weekly, and we've done it weekly with general manager 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Nickossearrio and it's been a blast. We come in there 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: and we talk about any number of things, and we'll 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: get together in the offseason. I got a feeling they'll 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: be in everything but the Texans Nick Cassario Interview, which 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: could be very very interesting as we learn more about 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: the general manager of the team, and obviously we'll learn 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: more about the off season as such, but we won't 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: have this weekly Nick Cassarrio interview, which is really unfortunate 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: for us. I love it, I love having him on 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: and it's been great. I don't know many general managers 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: that spend as much time as Nick does with us 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: and with the radio crew, So we really appreciate Nick 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: for being part of that. We'll get to him in 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: just a second. But we also got Jim Wyatt on 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: the show tonight. He covers the Titans and has covered 24 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: him from the inception for the Titans. It's not always 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: been for the Titans. I think he started with the 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: Tennessee and then he went and worked for the Titans themselves. 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: He will be on with deepe Sitis. We go behind 28 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: enemy sidelines. Then it's men behind the Mikes. Mike Keith, 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: one of our favorites, just happens to be for the 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: rival Tennessee Titans. We'll join Mark vandamer which is awesome. 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: And then my man Patch mac Oh. Yeah, Marcus Coleman 32 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: does a little where are They Now with Drew Doherty. 33 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: That is gonna be freaking awesome. I cannot wait it. 34 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: Give you a little peep behind a curtain. Once Marcus 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: was done playing, he came over to the radio station 36 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: where I was working, and he would come on and 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: he'd chop it up, and then he'd hang out all 38 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: day and he'd just talked ball and be around and 39 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: kind of got into the hijinks of what we were 40 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: all doing. And he was awesome. He's gotten back into 41 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: coaching and want to hear more from Marcus Coleman. A 42 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: little later, the show with Drew Doherty with a Wednesday 43 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: where are they now? But as I said, we kick 44 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: off the show each and every Wednesday with the general 45 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: manager of your Houston Texans, Nick Cassario. Mark me, Nick, 46 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: here we go, joining us right now Texans Radio's Texans 47 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: general manager and Nick Kisserio. Nick, Happy new year, Great 48 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: to have you with us. Final week of the season. 49 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: How do you feel going into the final tilt? Yeah, 50 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: good morning, good to be here, a happy new year. 51 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: M Yeah, good opportunity for our team to you know, 52 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: try to make some progress in the division against a 53 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: really good team. So a lot of respect, an admiration 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: for what tennessee, what Mike and John have done and 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: put together, you know, division champ so certainly be a 56 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: challenge for us so present some challenges at a little 57 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: bit different than San Francisco post, but in good opportunity 58 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: for our team to try to have a good week, 59 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, and go out in a positive note. Nick, 60 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about Sunday against San Francisco. You 61 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: got a seventh three lead at half, it's ten to 62 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: seven going to the fourth quarter, you're standing up going 63 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: total to physically one of the tougher teams in the league. 64 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: Where your overall thoughts from Sunday, yeah, I had some opportunities, 65 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, kept the game kind of competitive there for 66 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: a little bit. It was close in the fourth quarter, 67 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: I think it was ten seven and the fourth quarter, 68 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, really the series ended up being a difference, 69 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, getting knocked out of field goal range to 70 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: a degree on third down or miss the field goal 71 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: and then turn around and give out the big play 72 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: and a touchdown. So it goes from a three score 73 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: game to a ten point game and you know, fairly 74 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: short order of time. So you know, it just emphasized 75 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: the importance of execution situational football, you know, third down 76 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: a kicking game, and then not giving up big plays, 77 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: which those elements will certainly show up, you know this 78 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: week with Tennessee a really good situational team third down 79 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: the red area. They're among the top ten in the league. 80 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: So you know, it comes down to execution a critical 81 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: situation when it matters, and you know, there was a 82 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: handful of plays that San Francisco was able to execute 83 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: and as a result, they entered up victorious and you 84 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: did get that execution in the first half. At times, Nick, 85 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: when you had the pick and you were able to 86 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: drive eighty yards, get the touchdown, get the ball back. 87 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: I know you couldn't do anything with it or didn't 88 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: do anything with it, but that was good to see 89 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: the Texans take the lead and able to get a 90 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: three it out after that. Yeah, there were enough good 91 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: things in the game, Um at different points that series 92 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: that you alluded to that you mentioned. I'd say a 93 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: pretty good awareness played by Desmond where they tried to 94 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: sneak the tight end out, you know, on a weak side, 95 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, and just kind of stay disciplined his own coverage. 96 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: I think Lance probably thought the tight end was behind Desmond. 97 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: Desmond just carried Um stayed, you know, underneath the receiver 98 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: and his own made a good play in the ball, 99 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: which Desmond one of his strengths or his hands and 100 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: his ball skills always has been so m you know, 101 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: anytime you take the all away from the opposing team, 102 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: that's always a good thing. So turnovers are important. Turnovers 103 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: a part of the game. Um. You know, we gave 104 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: them one there a little bit, you know, whatever point 105 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: that was. So those little things certainly matter. They're gonna 106 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: matter this week, just as they have just about every 107 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: other week here in every game. Nick, you mentioned a 108 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: little while ago talking about Tennessee and how good they 109 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: were in situational football. By the way, my wife had 110 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: a comment the other night about situational football. I proved 111 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: my mind. She said, why isn't everything in football situational? 112 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: Which was true, but I had to try and explain 113 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: to her specific situations. You mentioned third down red zone 114 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: teams that you have seen when championships would be very 115 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: very good. Which situational aspect were they the best at? 116 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: And which one do you want the Texans to be 117 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: the best at? If you're gonna pick one, I know 118 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: you want to be best at all, But if there 119 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: was one that's most important, which situational would situation would 120 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: you want to be the best at. No, It's an 121 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: interesting thought. Ultimately, the game comes down to points. So 122 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: where do where points happen? It happened red area, So 123 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: your ability to executing a red area from call you 124 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: know the ten and end you know from the once 125 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: you get the ball through the twenty yard line. The 126 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: percentages are fairly high in the field goal, so as 127 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: you move a little bit close to the end zone. 128 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: The difference and you know, the field goal versus the 129 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: touchdowns or the four point plays. So you know, your 130 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: red zone execution is important. Your teams that can have 131 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: success running the football into the into the end zone, 132 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: that usually kind of gives them a little bit. And 133 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: Vanna is always hard to throw the ball. I mean, 134 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: the hardest situation for any team to be in is 135 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: offensively at least third and eight or nine. You know, 136 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: third and goal from the eight or nine, that's a 137 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: hard play. So but I'd say red zone. You know, 138 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: points correlate to winning, you know, so between the red 139 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: area offense and or defense. Third down is just a 140 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: way to continue drives throughout the course of the game. 141 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: But I think the point that your wife actually made 142 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: you know, each play is a different situation. You go 143 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: from first down to second out, second out, to third down, 144 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: first down to second out, second out of first down, 145 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: and you just have to adjust to the flow of 146 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: the game as you go. So I would say that's 147 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: why that those critical situations games usually come down to 148 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: who executes best in a red area, who can execute 149 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: on third down to keep drives going, who can execute 150 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: in the two minute situations with a lot of those, 151 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: or either end a half, and then obviously the end 152 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: of game situation, and then the turnover ratio or turnover factor, 153 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: your ability to take the ball away and not give 154 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: it to the other team. Those all correlate to winning, 155 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: probably as much as anything. So all situations are important, 156 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: They all matter, you know, they you never know which 157 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: one is going to ultimately be the determining factor in 158 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: the game. But you certainly have to have a heightened awareness, 159 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: especially in a red area and especially on third down, 160 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: because those end up being probably some of the more 161 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: critical plays and there's less of them during the course 162 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: of the game. So your ability to have success success 163 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: on whichever side of the ball you're on, you know, 164 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: is a big factor. Nike, it feels like we see 165 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: more people going for two and it feels like we 166 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: see more people going forward on fourth down. I know 167 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: situations do depend on that as well, But by your estimation, 168 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: when did this become more frequent, the going on fourth 169 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: that in particular, it's a good question. Mark I'd say 170 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: over the last maybe two to four years, So I 171 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: think you know what's happened. There's been a little bit 172 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: more information that maybe teams are utilizing or incorporating into 173 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: their sort of game planning and game management. It's interesting 174 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: we were kind of looking at this going into our 175 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: game on Saturday. The call it the plus forty to 176 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: plus thirty area of the field is probably where you've 177 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: seen the most increase or uptick in teams kind of 178 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: having to make a decision about when two or when 179 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: not to go for one on fourth down, whether they 180 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: kick the field goal, whether they punt. And I'd say 181 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: the kind of thirty six to thirty area is a 182 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: pretty premium real estate area because it forces you to 183 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: kind of think. So you factor that in. Then you 184 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: factor into especially when you get late into the game 185 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, once you get under about call 186 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: it maybe nine or ten minutes. I mean, realistically, you're 187 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: gonna have about four possessions, two on each side of 188 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: the ball. So how do you handle those situations? You know, 189 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: how what goes into your thought process? What's a score 190 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: in a game? I mean, so I would say the 191 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: whole fourth down discussion looks like over the last few years, 192 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: you have some coaches that are a little bit more aggressive, 193 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: a little bit more inclined to sort of not take risk, 194 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: but it's it's more of a calculated risk and a 195 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: decision because if you give the ball up at that point, 196 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: you know how much do you actually lose or gain. 197 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: So I'd say every staff, every coach has a different 198 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: philosophy and you just have to stay true to whatever 199 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: you believe in. Nick. The season ends on Sunday, everybody 200 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: knows that. But your to do list, I don't want 201 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: to say it ends with the season begins with the 202 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: new one. It's just probably a really long to do 203 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: list that you get into. But what are some of 204 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: the first two things you've got to do Monday when 205 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: you wake up coming to the office. Season's over. What 206 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: do you start doing at that particular point to get 207 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: ready for twenty twenty two and especially this offseason. Yeah, 208 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: the big thing you really just after the game on 209 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: Son you kind of have an end point, so you're 210 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: sort of regular season flow. Some of the things that 211 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: can end too, the you know, weekly decision making, who's 212 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: on a roster, who's off the roster, who's in the game, 213 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: who's an active You don't have to worry about that, 214 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: but in terms of the overall team building and player 215 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: acquisition and kind of planning. You know, it's fairly fluid. 216 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: You just kind of have an endpoint. So, now that 217 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: the season is over, you have some players that you 218 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: know are not on a contract. Come the middle of 219 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: the March, one of the league years starts, so you 220 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: have to look at I would say, your entire roster, 221 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: who you have under contract, who's not under contract. I 222 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: would say some of the reserve future players. You'll see 223 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: they'll be you know, the teams aren't playing, they'll sign 224 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: their reserve future players, which essentially they're free agent players 225 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: that you know you plan on taking to the offseason program, 226 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: taking into training camp understanding that you know a player 227 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: that you sign or draft, you draft or you sign 228 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: after the draft could maybe offset that players. So I 229 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: would say that's a factor where you are kind of 230 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: uninjured players relative to who's gonna need offseason jury and 231 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: just the timeline associated with that. So I would say 232 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: from a roster standpoint, those are some of the things 233 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: that are going to come into play. And then really 234 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: from the I would say coaching staff standpoint, you know, 235 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: schematically just going back and kind of reviewing everything that 236 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: has happened. I mean, and there are certain things that 237 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: would say the Houston Texans this year we've done fairly well, 238 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: and there's other areas quite frankly, we haven't done very 239 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: well at all. So going back and evaluating those situations 240 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: kind of what happened? How do we prepare? How do 241 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: we practice it? You know, those are some of the 242 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: things i'd say over the next month or so that 243 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, your coaching staff is going to have to 244 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: really dig into, and that kind of Once you get 245 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: through that, then February March you start to transition into 246 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: sort of the draft preparation. Least from other other members 247 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: of the staff. Our scouting staff has been immersed in that, 248 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, for a long time here. And then really 249 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: the next checkpoint in the calendar, you know, the start 250 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: of the league years March eighteenth or whatever it is, 251 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, four o'clock. So there's certain players that are 252 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: you know, are going to be available. So there's a 253 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: lot of work between let's call it now and then 254 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: that you're going to go into so projecting, you know, 255 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: salary size, what that potentially player is going to make 256 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: on the open market. Is this someone we're going to 257 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: be interested in, can we afford that contract? How does 258 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: he fit within the construct of what we're trying to do, 259 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: who's coming back. So I mean, it's really it's just 260 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: a continuation and ongoing. I think this season just kind 261 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: of gives you an end point. But quite frankly, you 262 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: know you're probably as busy or put as much time 263 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: and effort into what happens after the season as you 264 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: do during the season. Nick, you signed so many players 265 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: last offseason, so many free agents, and I know this 266 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: has to be an ongoing process. But take us through 267 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: a little bit about how you evaluate potential free agents 268 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: on other teams, maybe during the season versus right after, 269 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: because it's not like you can just start gathering information 270 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: mid January. I know you've probably been doing that all along, 271 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: but then you get a sort of crunch time element 272 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: leading into free agency as you have to make a 273 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: decision whether you're going to pursue them or not. Yeah, no, 274 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: it's a it's a good point. So, I mean, just 275 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: one of the things just in terms of my process. 276 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: So every team that we played, I mean I've written 277 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: up every player on their roster and color code of 278 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: the players that you know, we know are going to 279 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: be free agents and or restricted free agents. You know 280 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: which I would say that market has certainly become less. 281 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: But so as you prepare for a team and prepare 282 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: for an opponent, you know, you're watching a how they're 283 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: playing during the year, within their scheme, what they're doing 284 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: for their team. But you know their strengths, their weaknesses, 285 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: and kind of maybe how you would protect that player 286 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: into your system if you had the opportunity to sign him. 287 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: So so to your point, there's certainly work that's been 288 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: done already, and then you know, we'll gather kind of 289 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: collectively as a as a personnel department, and you know 290 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: you'll go through I would say, a general stacking process 291 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: like you would do for a draft board. So look 292 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: at the position, look at who's available, you know, arrange 293 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: them according to grade highest lowest. And then once you 294 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: have the grade of the player, what you feel his 295 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: value is to your team, then okay, what's the projective 296 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: contract commensurate with that player? And you know there might 297 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: be a gap, there might be a mismatch. Let's say 298 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: we create a player a certain level, but his contract 299 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: is projected to be higher. Well, okay, maybe that's not 300 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: a player that quite frankly we should be targeting. Because 301 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a gap. Now, if we 302 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 1: have identified a certain player, here's what we think is 303 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: value is, here's this great, Here's what we think his 304 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: role is on a team. Here's what his projected market is. 305 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: Understanding that that could change because it only takes one 306 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: team to change to add once they get into free 307 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: agency and then to say, okay, like here's kind of 308 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: a target group, and then you start to maybe do 309 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: some research in gathering behind the scenes, and you know, 310 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: you can't really talk to their agents and representative until 311 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: you get to March anyway. So I mean that's a 312 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: sort of a separate bucket once you get into that. 313 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: So you know, there's certainly a lot of planning that 314 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: goes into it, but you have an idea of who's 315 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: going to be available, not only on the opposing teams, 316 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: but then also league wide, probably need to spend a 317 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: little bit more time just on the other players and 318 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: other teams league Why that we haven't played this year 319 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: just so we make sure we know who they are. 320 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of components, there's a lot of 321 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: things that can win to but you know, whenever the 322 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: new league year it begins, you know, hopefully we'll be 323 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: ready to go, and we've identified some players that we feel, hey, 324 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: we can afford and be that we think can help 325 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: us in a particular role. Nick, how important is the 326 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: process between your scouts having seen college players for sometimes 327 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: two three years, and then your coaching staff getting involved 328 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: in the process, who haven't seen these guys? Probably other 329 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: than maybe watching a game on TV and having a 330 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: synergy between the two groups to make sure that you 331 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: are given the best information to be able to stack 332 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: your board, et cetera. How import does that process of 333 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: merging the scouts with the coaches to get that process 334 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: take care of. Yeah, No, it's important, you know, and 335 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a little bit of a double 336 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: edged sword too, because you know, you've invested a lot 337 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: of time kind of you know, on a personnel side 338 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: and scouting side, and then you know, we try to 339 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: be I would say, very purposeful about which players would 340 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: give our coaches. Quite frankly, I don't think it's very 341 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: productive just to give them a list of you know, 342 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: seventy five players at east position and say, okay, go 343 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: evaluate those players and tell us what you think. I mean, 344 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: it's kind of counterproductive. It's not really good use of 345 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: their time. So we try to take the big picture, 346 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: maybe shrink it down a little bit, and then be 347 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: able to provide the coaches and say, all right, here's 348 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: these group of however many players it is, take a 349 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: look at them. You know, what's your evaluation of the player, 350 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: how you see them. And quite frankly, that's kind of 351 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: my role in this is I can kind of be 352 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, the synergistic link between the coaching staff and 353 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: the personnel staff. You know, just ultimately that's you know, 354 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: one of the reasons that I'm here to kind of 355 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: help bridge that gap a little bit, just understanding what 356 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: we're doing, you know, on a week to week basis. 357 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: So and then also where you get the information from 358 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: and how you get that as you know, you know 359 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: depending on who you speak to, and you know, they 360 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: could say one thing to a coach that they've said 361 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: something different to a member of your scouting staff. So okay, 362 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: you know what's the right information? You know where's the 363 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: truth lies. So I would say there's a lot of dialogue, 364 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of conversation, and ultimately, you know, we're 365 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: not going to bring a player in that you know, 366 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: there's a disconnect on the player. If we feel that, 367 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, one group maybe feels a certain way and 368 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: the other group feels a certain way, well, then the 369 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: end it's going to make a decision, you know, is 370 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: it worth it or not. So you know, we want 371 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: players that a fit what we're trying to do, that 372 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: everybody has the confidence in and that actually going to 373 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: invest the time and the effort and energy and that 374 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: player when they get here, because if you do it 375 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: the other way, you're ultimately going to run into promise. 376 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: Sunday's Fan Appreciation Day, Nick, And with the Texans in 377 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: recent weeks, you had success against the Chargers, the Jags, 378 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: parts of the Seattle game, parts of the forty nine 379 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: Ers game. Is that a good example of what you 380 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: want to show the fans. Hey, this is what we've 381 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: been working on. These are some of the results so far, 382 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: but you get a long way to go. How would 383 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: you phrase that for us? Yeah, I would say to 384 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: fan support really throughout the season has been has been great. 385 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean once you get in you know the other 386 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: It's New England game, you know, you get into the 387 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: Jets game, you know the Chargers game. You mentioned, like 388 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: we've it's been pretty loud in the stadium, So I 389 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: think you know, we've had support, you know from the 390 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: fans and you know from the area, which is quite frankly, 391 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, awesome to see. You know, I think they 392 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: believe in the things that we're trying to do and 393 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: you're starting to see that come to fruition on the field. Understand, 394 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: we have a long runway in front of us and 395 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: a long way to go. But you know, when you 396 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: play at home and you get to support, UM, you 397 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: know from from your your fans, you know, it's it 398 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: brings a little juice, brings a lot of energy, and 399 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: know the players sort of feed off of that. So 400 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: you know, again when we took over, I mean, we 401 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: were trying to put together the best team as possible 402 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: that you know, not only the organization but the city 403 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: can be proud of. And you know, unfortunately the wins 404 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: and losses are what they are. But you know, we 405 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: realize that there was going to be a lot of 406 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: work and a lot of time, a lot of effort 407 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: that has gone into this and you know, like we've 408 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: talked about during the season, there's been a lot of 409 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: things that have gone on kind of underneath the surface. 410 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: UM We've made a lot of progress, um, you know, 411 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: and I think if you continue to do those things 412 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: and ultimately they'll translate into more success, which is more 413 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: wins and losses on the field, which is ultimately the 414 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: fans just you know, they want to be a part 415 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: of a team that wins um and had success and 416 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: does it the right way. So that's our responsibility and 417 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: we're going to try to continue to do that as 418 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: we as we build the thing out. Nick, it's week eighteen. 419 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: We've never had a week eighteen the regular season before 420 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: with a seventeenth game. Has that made a difference at all? 421 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: Material difference at are just another week in the process? Yeah, 422 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: I'd say probably a little bit more of another week 423 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: in the process, you know, in terms of your preparation, 424 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: in terms of what the players go through, your routine, 425 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: kind of how you schedule your week and what you 426 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: go through during the course of the week. It's not 427 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: going to change, you know. It's just an additional week. 428 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: But you know, we've tried to do a good job. 429 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: The players have done a good job sort of managing 430 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: themselves and managing their bodies and understanding what they have 431 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: to do at different points of the week, so you know, 432 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: just pushes everything I would say, end of the season 433 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: into the offseason a little bit further out. But you know, 434 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: ultimately we have to go out there and play and perform. 435 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: That's what you know, what are what we're paid to do, 436 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: what our responsibility is. So we're gonna put everything into 437 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: this this week like we have every other week. We're 438 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: not going to cut any corners. You know, We're gonna 439 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: have a good attitude, we're gonna work hard, we're gonna 440 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: go out there, we're gonna try to prepare for a 441 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: really good team and ultimately go out there and try 442 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: to play a good football game on Sunday. Nick, we 443 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: really appreciate Shade all the weekly visits. Thank you so much. 444 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone's gotten so much out of these, so 445 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: thank you for visiting with us each week here on 446 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: Texans Radio and video. No, I really enjoy the opportunity 447 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: and enjoy the conversation, you know, really enjoy doing it 448 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: on a week to week basis, and you look forward 449 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: to spend a little bit more time to get in 450 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: the off season when we get the opportunity. All right, 451 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: thanks a lot, Nick, Thanks guys, Yeah, I can promise 452 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: you We're gonna have some good offseason conversation with Nick 453 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: as we go into an offseason that says, We've said 454 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: many times, and I'll quote the famous Landry Locker, my 455 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 1: good friend, this is going to be the most exciting 456 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: offseason the history of the Texans. And I couldn't agree more. 457 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: And we got the man driving it, and it's gonna 458 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: make it extremely exhilarating and fun, especially as it pertains 459 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: to the draft. And if the draft turns out the 460 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: way that this last one did with all five guys 461 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: make an impact. Man, if they're more in the way, 462 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: get this thing turned around in Houston, hopefully lickety split. 463 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: How about that. Okay, let's get some trains action news 464 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: from today, because it was pretty extensive and for the 465 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: most part, pretty good news. Two four sixty seven players 466 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: were removed from the COVID nineteen reserve list, and they 467 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: are as follows in alphabetical order. Dan Amondolo, Antonio, Antonio, Antonio, 468 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: Claire Rondell, Carter, Titus Howard, David Johnson, Lonnie Johnson Junior, 469 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: and Chris Moore. Two more were restored to the practice 470 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: squad as they were taken off the COVID nineteen list, 471 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: and that was kicker Dominic Eberley and fullback Paul Questenberry. 472 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: The Texans subsequently then took two players from the practice 473 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: squad had to release them. They aforementioned Dominic Eberley and 474 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: Darius Jackson. Dominic Eberley may not be remembered down the road, 475 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: but when we look back on the twenty twenty one season, 476 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: you think about great wins. I think about the Chargers, 477 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: and in that game, he had a fifty one yard 478 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: fieldgo the very first field goal attempt that he had. 479 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: But those names I mentioned earlier, Amndola a Claire Carter, Howard, Johnson, 480 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: Johnson and Chris Moore getting back great news for Week 481 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: eighteens finale against the Tennessee Titans. So while we're at it, 482 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: let's get to the injury report. And there is a 483 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: little bit of news from the Titans. Now, I don't 484 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: know if it's going to impact Sunday or not, but 485 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: we'll get to that. In the second Texans had to 486 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: walk through the day, so this injury report's only an estimation. 487 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: Chris Connley did not participate and three players Justin bridg 488 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: Johnathan Gnard Comu Gruge Hill were limited participants. Now at Tennessee, 489 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: they had Niquan Jones, the big fell up front dealing 490 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: with a knee issue. That had Jack Rabbit Jenkins, Ben Jones, 491 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: Julio Jones, Kena Lamb, Roger Staffold all limited participants with 492 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: the Royal Murchison Derek Robinson were full participants. Also a 493 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: participant at practice today Derek Henry. He has entered the 494 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: twenty one day win. No to be activated off of 495 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: injured reserve. Now, if you're wondering, boy, we're gonna see 496 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: the rushing leader of the last two years. Don't know. 497 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: Gut says, probably not that. They'll go with Danteante Foreman. 498 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: They'll go with Dantro Hilliard. Those two guys have been great. 499 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: They'll give Henry just that much more time. If the 500 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: Titans win on Sunday, that gives the Titans the buy 501 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: in the AFC an additional week for Henry to get 502 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: ready and then they would play that game at home. 503 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: But Henry was at practice today the Titans, not the Titans, 504 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: but Titans media. We're tweeting out pictures and video of 505 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: Henry being at practice. No guarantee he doesn't play this Sunday. 506 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 1: No guarantee that he does. It's just that he has 507 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: entered at twenty one day window. But the thought coming 508 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: out of Tennessee has been that Derrick Henry would be 509 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: held for the playoffs, which means that Texas would not 510 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: face him in twenty twenty one. And I would be 511 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: fine with that. I don't like seeing twenty two go 512 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: for two hundred large, which he has done the last 513 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: three times he faced the Texans, so he just takes 514 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: Sunday off for all that matters. Okay, we get back. 515 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: Let's hear from Jim Wyatt. I'm sure Derrick Henry's situation 516 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: will come up in our conversation with deep sitters. We 517 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 1: go behind enemy sidelines right here in Texans. 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It's time to 536 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: go behind Enemy Sidelines with our good friend Deep City. 537 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: And when it's Tennessee Titans Week, there's only one person 538 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: that could be That is Jim Wyatt Deepe Takeaway. It's 539 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: Enemy Sidelines presented by Microsoft. My guest Jim Wyatt. He 540 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: covers the Tennessee Titans for the team I talked to 541 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: him twice a year. Titans there AFC South Champs for 542 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: the second year in a row, and they've got a 543 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: chance to secure that number one seed in the AFC 544 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: playoff picture. It's been such a season of adversity for 545 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: the Titans. Jim, I mean you cover the team, how 546 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: how surprised are you at where the Titans are sitting 547 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: right now heading in the Week eight team Well, I mean, 548 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: this has been a team that's really flown under the radar, 549 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: even though it's had a couple of a couple of 550 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: times in that number one spot, and they've had some 551 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: great success, you know, winning a long stretch of games 552 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: against you know, teams that went to the playoffs last year. 553 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: But as you mentioned, there's been a lot of adversity 554 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: and this team has played with eighty eight different players 555 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: this year because of injuries, played half the year with that. 556 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: Derrick Kennry, the offensive MVP from a year ago, played 557 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: a long stretch without a j Brown, and Hulio Jones 558 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: is just now how to impact a lot of people 559 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: thought they'd had. They've had to deal with a lot 560 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: of COVID issues, but this has been a resilient team 561 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: and just when people maybe want to count them out, 562 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: they seemed to rise to the occasion. And that's what 563 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: happened on Sunday as they one to get into that 564 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: number one playoff spot with the help of the Bengals, 565 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: beating the Chiefs and now the plan is to keep 566 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: it and you know, certainly it's not going to be 567 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: easy this. I know the Texans came in here and 568 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: beat the Titans on their home field or ere the season. 569 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure that got the tension as well going into 570 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: this one. But in a good spot. And you know, 571 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: we all know how valuable that number one seed is 572 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: this year because only one team gets one, and only 573 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: one team gets that playoff by It's it's just like 574 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: gets you know, it's just like a win in the 575 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: playoffs if you can get it. So a lot of 576 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: momentum and a lot of reason for the Titans to 577 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: be ready to play in this game one Sunday. Yeah, 578 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: that first round buy is going to have to go 579 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: through Houston for the Titans. But you mentioned that week 580 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: eleven matchup and and Derrick Henry's it seems like he's 581 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: going to be the big storyline heading into this week's game, 582 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: whether or not he comes back off of I R 583 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: and the Titans have done such a good job running 584 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: the ball in recent weeks, is there a real rush 585 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: to bring Henry back or maybe just save him for 586 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, and that's the big question here. You know, 587 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: how valuable is it to get him eight ten kiries 588 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: to get him to knock the rust off. I think 589 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: he's going to play at some point this season, So 590 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: whether that's going to be in the season finale or 591 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: whether that's going to be in the playoffs kind of 592 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: remains to be seen. I mean, if the Titans can 593 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: take care of business on Sunday, you can get him 594 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: an extra an extra week's rest. But you know there's 595 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: a school of thought there that you kind of get 596 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: him up, you know, back in the flow of things. 597 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: Then he's got a week to recover if the team wins. 598 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: That's the million dollar question in Nashville. I don't know 599 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: how how that's going to be decided, and know a 600 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: lot of people are anxious seeing him on the practice field. 601 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: I think the title to kind of see how that goes. 602 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: But one of the reasons it's been successful and the 603 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: reason they've been able to win without him is because 604 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: of a former Texan Deante Foreman and a very you're 605 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,239 Speaker 1: familiar with him, and he's done a great job. Don't here, 606 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: You's done a great job, you know. Mike Rabel talking 607 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: yesterday about some of these running bikes who who were 608 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: kind of out of a job. He's kind of like 609 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: stray cats who bring him into your home. And the 610 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: guys have turned out to be great for the Titans. 611 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: So I'm myself, I'm curious to see what ultimately has 612 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: decided on what happened with Dereck Knry. Yeah, and you 613 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: mentioned Deonte Foreman. He's just you know, had some tremendous 614 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: games recently. But it seemed like when Henry first went out, 615 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: the Titans sort of struggled with that offensive game plan 616 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: of just running the ball and running it effectively. Where 617 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: was the turnaround and what really changed for them here 618 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: in this past month or so. Yeah, and it was 619 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: a kind of a struggle. They're trying to find their 620 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: identity again and trying to figure out what the best 621 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: balance was. And I would say that maybe started to flip. 622 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking at I would say, you know, 623 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: Foreman has gone for over one hundred yards and three 624 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: of the last five. So sometime around that Patriots game, 625 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: after the New England game, you know, they lost in 626 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: New England, but the Titans, you know, had two backs 627 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: that went for over one hundred yards in that game, 628 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: and they went for over two hundred rushing yards as 629 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: a team. I think that's when they really started to 630 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: kind of get the flowback in the running game, and 631 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: and Foreman has had a lot of succept after that. 632 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: I mean he's at four he's almost at five hundred yards, 633 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: and the games since Derek left, the running game as 634 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: a whole has been, you know, almost as productive as 635 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: it was with Henry just using a variety of different 636 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: box Now getting there Henry Bock going to make a 637 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: big difference because it changes the white teams defend the Titans. 638 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: He's obviously got to breakaway threat that these box do 639 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: not have. But the running game has been good without him, 640 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: and then he's just going to give him a shot 641 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: harm when he does come back. All right, Another guy 642 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: that hasn't been on the field too men. You mentioned earlier, 643 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: Julio Jones. There was a lot of expectation for him 644 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: when the Titans signed him this offseason. He comes off 645 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: the COVID list. He's dealt with a lot of injuries 646 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: this year. But if he comes back here in Week eighteen, 647 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 1: what does that mean for Tannehill in the offense? I 648 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: wish I could tell you it would you know it's 649 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: going to jump start the team and take him to 650 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: another level. But I've kind of learned, you know, in 651 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: covering Hulio, watching him as you just you know, you 652 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: get what you get. I mean, and I'm not no, 653 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: you're not trying to be critical of him, but it 654 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: just has been his production has been hit or mess, 655 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean, either because of his ability or inability to 656 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: finish games, whether or not they look his way. I mean, 657 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: he's out there a lot of times and playing and 658 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: doesn't get the football. And part of that because they've 659 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: got a better receiver on the other side and a J. 660 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: Brown and the tension maybe that goes to Julio. AJ 661 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: benefits from that, and I think other guys has benefit 662 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: from it. You know. I think in a perfect world, 663 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: if you're the Titans, you know, the coaching staff, management, management, 664 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: no no matter what has been said about Julio, the 665 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: way that has played out so far, all that can 666 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: be washed away if he can kind of get some 667 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: momentum and be a big difference maker from this point 668 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: moving forward. I mean, that's really why you bring a 669 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: guy like that in here, is to help you win 670 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: a championship. And it hasn't gone well so far. I mean, 671 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: right now, you know, we've got a game left and 672 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: the season. Hulio Jones got twenty six catches from three 673 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: hundred sevent six yards. He hasn't even scored a touchdown. 674 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's not a lot of production for 675 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: a guy that you gave up a good amount for, 676 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: your paying a lot for. But if he can help 677 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: this team down the stretch, help this team in the playoffs, 678 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: help this team get to a super Bowl and make 679 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: an impact, then then you know, I think that trade's 680 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: going to turn out to be beneficial. But how much 681 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: of a boost he gives them? I know that was 682 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: your question that it's hard to say because it's been 683 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: that's been one of the most impossible things to predict 684 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, and hard to build that chemistry when 685 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: you're just not on the field, ye, Jim. About Zach Huntingham. 686 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: Now he's with the Titans. He was released by the 687 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: Texans earlier this season. He gets reunited with Mike Frable. 688 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: He's seen some action in the last three games there 689 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: in Nashville. What do you expect out of him? Has 690 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: his role expanded? Will it expand here in the postseason? 691 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: And what have you thought of him so far? Well, 692 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: I've always loved Zach Cunningham as a player. I've got 693 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: too much glare on me. I don't know if you 694 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: can tell that I got on available. I'm a band. 695 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: I watched Zack Cunningham play, you know, on West End, 696 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, for some years, and just thought he was 697 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: a great player and just fast and runs to the 698 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: ball and is physical. And then watching him with the 699 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: Texans during his time they're playing against him, I was 700 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: always impressed by the way he played. He came in 701 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: here and started right out of gate, and he's playing 702 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: a lot of snaps. I mean, he's part of their 703 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: starting unit in the base package, and I think he 704 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: has fit in really well, and I think he's going 705 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: to continue to play. I think the more he plays, 706 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: the more familiarity has with his defense and his teammates 707 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: and expectations. I think the more of an impact he's 708 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: gonna make. You know, that was a group when he 709 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: joined it. It was kind of, you know, just joined 710 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: it a little bit, had a lot of guys you know, 711 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: out with injuries or on the COVID list, and now 712 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're getting guys by healthy. You know, 713 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: Zach Browns is now Jayon Brown, I should say, is 714 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: now back off the COVID list. Land or Shan Evans 715 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: is playing his best ball right now. David Long, who 716 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: had a long stretch of being out, he's now back. 717 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: And then you put those guys alongside, you know, Zach 718 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: Cunningham and all of a sudden, Titans that may be 719 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: one of their deepest positions on the team inside bicker. 720 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: But with all that said, Zach is kind of at 721 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: the top of the heat there. I mean, he's and 722 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: he's a guy that they're looking to not only down 723 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: the stretch this year, but I think for you for 724 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: the future. So I think they were lucky to get him. 725 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened down there that led to 726 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: him leaving, but I know the Titans feel like they're 727 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: very fortunate to get a guy that caliber late in 728 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, it's certainly hard to see some former 729 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: Texans there on the opposite side of the field, especially 730 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: in the division. You mentioned eighty eight players that have 731 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: played for one reason another, either because of COVID or 732 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: injuries to the other starters on the team. So that's 733 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: actually an NFL record for a non strike season. I 734 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: was reading about that a little bit earlier. What or 735 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: who has really im ask you the most with just 736 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: the season and everyone that's had to step up? I mean, 737 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: is it is it really a credit to Mike Vrabel? 738 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: Is it some of the other guys and some unsung heroes? 739 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean, who do you credit some of these these 740 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: guys stepping up and really performing for the Titans this year? Yeah? 741 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: I mean it's Rabel deserves a lot of credit, I mean, 742 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: and certainly partial with him. We are working for the 743 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: team and watching the team on a regular basis. When 744 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: I see, you know, tea people talking about coach of 745 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: the Year nominees. If the Titans win this game on 746 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: Sunday and finishes the number one seed in AFC with 747 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: everything that's kind of gone on, losing Derrick Henry, I 748 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: don't know how Mike Rabel's not your coach of the 749 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: year in the NFL and some coaches out there have 750 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: done a great job. It's not just rightbel me. I 751 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: think John Robinson, the team's general manager, and his staff 752 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: did a great job and identifying players who would be 753 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: a good fit and having those guys available in the 754 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: practice squad to step in and play if needed, and 755 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: to be able to find guys on the market, whether 756 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: it's deant Foreman who would they had familiarity with because 757 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: he's a last year buster screen, a guy who was 758 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: on the street and became available. He has stepped in 759 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: and played really well for him. And they've done a 760 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: good job at finding guys in the flow of the 761 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: season to plug in and play. You know, Greg mabn 762 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 1: another guy who kind of stepped in on short notice 763 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: and has played. They've had so many guys that have 764 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: come in and played a role. The scouting staff and 765 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: the general manager did a good job and having players 766 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: on the practice squad ready and practicing and up to 767 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: speed where they can step into play. That's kind of 768 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: going on all seasons. So it's the testament to coach Rabel, 769 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: is the testament to John Robinson, and the testament to 770 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: some of these guys who have been asked to play 771 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: and performed well. All right, good stuff, Jim Wyatt covers 772 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 1: the Titans Senior writer editor does it all for the team, Jim, 773 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing you here on Sunday, Pepe, Thank you, 774 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: and I'll see you down there in now. Houston Man 775 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: it's hard to think about the Titans the last two seasons, 776 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: this not being the third one where we end the 777 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: season with the Titans in and at Energy Stadium. In 778 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, AJ mccarren played resting a number of starters 779 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: in that game and the Titans won to get into 780 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs. They celebrated on the field. Last year it 781 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: took a joint fuel goal to beat the Texans thirty 782 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: eight thirty five. That clinched AFC South for the first 783 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: time since two thousand and nine. I believe, And this 784 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: year the Titans win, and they win the AFC. As 785 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: they go into the playoffs as the number one seed, 786 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: they get to buy yikes. Each year. It's just ramped up. 787 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: So hopefully your Texans can stunt all of that. But 788 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 1: here in Jim Wyatt's voice, made me think about those 789 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: finales at NRG Stadium. All right's lock going around, going 790 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: on around a league. We'll hit some of those items 791 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: next right here in Texans All Excess Texans, All Excess Texans, 792 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back to this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access 793 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: from on the Texans Radio studio. I'm your host, John Harris, 794 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,919 Speaker 1: Football and Sideline Report and very very hungry. This show, 795 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: as much as I love it, cannot get over soon enough. 796 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, at eight o'clock, I am driving 797 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: right down the road down to my local Freddy's. Because 798 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: Freddie's Frozen Custer and Steak Burgers is all about the 799 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: good and creating more of it. More drive through celebrations, 800 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: more road trips around the block, more family dinners and lunches, 801 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: more car picnics and desserts, maybe even more second desserts. 802 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: Still kind of the holiday season, so go with it 803 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: being more together as much as we can. With seventeen 804 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: area locations in the Houston area, Freddie's keeps the good 805 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: going with the taste that brings you back and a 806 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: reminder experience that football feeling and energy stadium. Visit Houston 807 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: Texas dot com slash tickets to get tickets to the 808 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: last game of the season or check out what's in 809 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: store for twenty twenty two season ticket memberships. There were 810 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: some information dropped today as Texans redefined season ticket membership 811 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: for fans. 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Any 821 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 1: quite getting a little argument with my friend Mike Meltzer, 822 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: But I kind of did with this dude, Jimmy Garoppolo 823 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: limited at practice. He was able to do a little 824 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: bit which got him back on the practice field. I tweeted, 825 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: don't matter. I didn't say like this, but it really 826 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: doesn't matter because Trey Lance is the now and he's 827 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: the future and then you need to stick with him. 828 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: And look, I know, if you watch a game on Sunday, 829 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: as I did saw it live, I saw Lance struggle 830 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: in the first half, in particular a little bit in 831 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: the second half, but after that, once he started getting 832 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: it down, once the games slowed down for him on 833 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: into the third, late third fourth quarter, the guy was 834 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: in total control and he I think he should be 835 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: the starter either way. Jimmy Garoppolo is back at practice 836 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: as they get ready to take on the Rams. Forty 837 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: nine Ers A gotta win. They're the only way the 838 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: forty ninners don't get into playoffs is if the Rams 839 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: beat them and the Saints win. Saints Louis the forty 840 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: Niners in. But I think Trey Lance gives the forty 841 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: nine ers the best opportunity against the l A Rams 842 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: a win, coaches a playoff. Berth Garoppolo, We'll see. I 843 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: just feel like Trey Lance is the guy that's Tredy 844 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: Lance is gonna get the majority of the reps this 845 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: week in practice, and I think he's gonna end up 846 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,399 Speaker 1: starting again. I think that's gonna be a big thing 847 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 1: for the San Francisco forty nine ers. The future is now, 848 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: as they say now. A couple of days ago, Chicago 849 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: radio media magnet Herbarcush went on air and said he 850 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: would have an issue voting for Aaron Rodgers for the 851 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one MVP. Arcish was on Chicago six seventy 852 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: score and he said Rogers is and I quote, the 853 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 1: biggest jerk in the league said arkish and I quote, 854 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: I don't think you can be the biggest jerk in 855 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: league and punish your team, in your organization and your 856 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: fan base the way he did and be the most 857 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:42,280 Speaker 1: valuable player. Well. Aaron Rodgers was asked about those comments 858 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: today and Rogers said, and again I quote, I think 859 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: he's a bum. I think he's an absolute bum. He 860 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: doesn't know me. I don't know who he is. No 861 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: one knew who he was, probably until he's comments. I 862 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: listened to the comments. But to say he had his 863 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: mind made up in this summertime, in the off season 864 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 1: that I had zero chance of winning MVP, in my opinion, 865 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: should exclude future votes. His problems in with me being 866 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 1: a bad guy at the biggest jerk in the league. 867 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: He doesn't know me, he do's know anything about me. 868 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: I've never met him, never had lunch with him, I've 869 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: never had an interview with him. I think he's a bum. 870 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: What strong words coming from the man who could be 871 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: the back to back MVP in the league. Aaron Rodgers 872 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: right there talking about the MVP race. I don't disagree. 873 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: I don't think you can go into anything with that 874 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: sort of mindset and have your mind made up. No 875 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: matter how you feel about a particular player, what he's 876 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: done on the field, that matters, and that's all that 877 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: should matter. All right, Let's get to where our men 878 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: behind the mics, our man Mark Vanimir, the Titans man 879 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: Mike Keith. When these two get together, it's always fun. 880 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: I always like being the third wheel. I love getting 881 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: into the conversation and I was left out on this one. Well, 882 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: I member handing the Mike's next right, Aaron, Texas all Access. 883 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: We got one hour down and one hour left to go, 884 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,240 Speaker 1: right here on a Wednesday edition, asked Wednesday edition of 885 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one season. Now, we'll eventually have Wednesday 886 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: All Access radio shows, but that will be after the 887 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, where we will have the hour of six 888 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: pm to seven pm. I'm sure we'll do a lot 889 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: of draft talk because that's a lot of times what 890 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: I like to talk about, and it's hugely important this year, 891 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: no doubt. I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline 892 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: reporter for your Houston Texans, and I want you to 893 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: join a Houston Texans fan club for free. When you do, 894 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: you get to tend exclusive events, enter to win prizes 895 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,720 Speaker 1: like autographed items and game tickets. You receive special offers 896 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: and so much more of visits Houston Texans dot com 897 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: slash fans to see which club you would like to join. Now, 898 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: let's get to our men behind the Mike's Mark Vanamer 899 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: of your Texans. Mike Keith of the Tennessee Titans. Now 900 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 1: it's a little it all. How do I say this 901 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 1: to me? The Tennessee Titans were born in nineteen ninety nine. 902 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: The voice of the Titans since then is Mike Keith. 903 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: The Texans were born in two thousand and two, the 904 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,479 Speaker 1: voice has been Mark Vandemirs. So I look at these 905 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 1: two men as the original voices of these two franchises. 906 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: The Oilers, different story. My man Tom Franklin was the 907 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: play by play voice for the Oilers. The Titans, a 908 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: whole different franchise. That's how I look at it. So 909 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 1: these two ogez the originals for their squads, Mike Keith 910 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: and Mark Vanimir Right here, man behind the Mikes, let's 911 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,879 Speaker 1: rock joining us right now Texans Radio. It's Mike Keith, 912 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,399 Speaker 1: voice of the Titans, and Mike, we meet again and 913 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: since last time the Titans while they went into a 914 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: little dip, but they've come out of it with the 915 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: last couple of games, and that went over the forty 916 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 1: nine or is very nice twenty to seventeen and the 917 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 1: dominating went over the Dolphins. What do you see lately 918 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: out of your team, guys, That's what I'm seeing. I'm 919 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: seeing guys whose faces I haven't seen in some cases months. 920 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 1: And that's the exciting part of where the Titans are 921 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: right now is this is the healthiest this football team 922 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: has been since training camp, and able to get people back, 923 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: able to build depth on the defense, able to get 924 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: a bye week, to get a mini bye after the 925 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: Thursday night game against San Francisco, and to be able 926 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: to get to last Friday and have Mike Vrabel end 927 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: his press conference by saying no one has been ruled 928 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: out for injury purposes. This has been a crazy year, 929 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: and when we saw one another in November, it was 930 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: sort of at the height of its craziness. It actually 931 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: got worse than next week when we went to New England. 932 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: But then the bye came, and slowly but surely this 933 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: team has gotten back on a more even keel, so 934 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: that the biggest difference that I've seen is in actual bodies, 935 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: actual players, names and numbers that you will know when 936 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: you see the jerseys. Well, it's interesting because the last 937 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,879 Speaker 1: time these two teams played, Adrian Peterson played in the game, 938 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 1: and it feels like a thousand years ago, but that 939 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 1: was the situation. So tell me, though, how are the 940 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,760 Speaker 1: Titans able to run the football so well even without 941 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: Derek Henry because Deante Foreman is doing a nice job 942 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: for you, among others. Well, it starts with the fact 943 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:29,359 Speaker 1: that the offensive line is back and healthy. And we 944 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 1: were in a position that nearly played all five starters 945 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: in the offensive line every snap in the Miami game, 946 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: and it would have been for the first time this 947 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: year mark and yet they took Roger Saffold out for 948 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: the last two series because the Titans were ahead. So otherwise, 949 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good problem to have. Yeah, But 950 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,879 Speaker 1: I mean they've lost people left and right. They've they've 951 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: had three spots that have been rotating all year. And 952 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: now you've got Lawan back, You've got Saffled back, You've 953 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 1: gotten Nate Davis back. You have some continuity. The other 954 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,800 Speaker 1: thing that's improved the run game too is getting J 955 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 1: Brown back. A J. Brown will get you out of 956 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 1: an eight or nine man box in a hurry because 957 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: you're fearful that he'll catch a crossing route and take 958 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: it to the house. So as the receivers have gotten better, 959 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: and as the team is able to do better in 960 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: that area, overall, some things have just expanded. And Foreman's 961 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: now been here two months, Dontrelle Hilliard has now been 962 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: here two months. You know, those guys were nowhere when 963 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,240 Speaker 1: we signed a mark. They were not in anybody's camp. 964 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 1: They in some cases hadn't been anywhere in months. And 965 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 1: so now this ball club has built some depth that 966 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 1: some spots like running back, and I think it may 967 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: help them as they go into the playoffs that the 968 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: injuries cause them to have to play people. And now 969 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 1: some of those folks can give you meaningful snaps if needed. 970 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: In January, Mike, with Ryan Tannehill here. You look at 971 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: his numbers and if I told you seventeen TDS fourteen 972 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: picks at this point of the year, Derrick Henry's been 973 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: hurt for a big chunk. You might say, oh, it's 974 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: been a tough season, might be a five hundred ish 975 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 1: kind of year, but it's not here. You are locking 976 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,839 Speaker 1: up the top seat in the AFC this weekend with 977 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: certain things happening. But what would you make of Tannehill's 978 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,760 Speaker 1: performance this year? Because the most important stat is record, 979 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 1: and there it is at eleven and five. That's right, 980 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: and the most important stat to take it a step 981 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,240 Speaker 1: further mark is the fact that he started all sixteen games. 982 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: If he had not, if he had been one of 983 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: the players who had missed any amount of time, the 984 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: Titans would not be here right now. His availability has 985 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: been a huge factor in what the team has been 986 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 1: able to do. And you look at some of his 987 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,760 Speaker 1: carries too. The other day, he picks up a fourth 988 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: and one with a quarterback sneak, he picks up a 989 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 1: first down with a two yard run. He scored seven 990 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: touchdowns on the ground. He keeps you out of bad 991 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: plays in the run game because he will check you 992 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: to something better due to what a smart guy that 993 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: he is. All of those sorts of things sort of 994 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 1: get overlooked when you just look at raw numbers. You know, 995 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,919 Speaker 1: in the game against the Texans earlier, he threw four interceptions. Well, 996 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: multiple interceptions were not his fault because he's playing with 997 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 1: receivers who are not used to playing and in certain 998 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,439 Speaker 1: cases guys went the wrong way. You can't sell him out, Mark, 999 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: you can't come out and say that if you're Ryan Tannehill. 1000 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: But the coaching staff knows and they understand that he 1001 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: has had a better year than his numbers reflect. Mike Keith, 1002 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: voice of the Titans, joining us on Texans Radio. All right, Mike, 1003 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 1: let's talk about the AFC South here for a moment, 1004 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: because the Colts obviously don't get to win the division 1005 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 1: they don't win last week against the Raiders. But what 1006 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 1: do you think of them going into the postseason? As 1007 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: we stand now going into Week eighteen, very dangerous what 1008 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 1: they do will travel in the playoffs. The fact that 1009 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 1: they can run the ball and that they play very 1010 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: physical on both sides of the line of scrimmage, they 1011 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,280 Speaker 1: can beat anybody. I really believe that. I think they 1012 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: have the type of team that if they draw the 1013 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 1: right matchups in the playoffs, they could knock off anybody. 1014 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 1: I mean, they could be a Super Bowl team. And 1015 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: I think it comes from the fact that they too 1016 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 1: are healthy, and that they have been able to develop 1017 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: some more weapons through the course of this year, and that, 1018 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 1: you know, Jonathan Taylor has moved to the head of 1019 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: the line as an elite type player in the backfield. 1020 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 1: Right now, Well, everybody's talking about the Jaguars coaching vacancy. 1021 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: How attractive is it in your estimation? It wasn't too 1022 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 1: long ago. You saw the Titans beat the Jags twenty 1023 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: to nothing and saw them up close and personal. It's 1024 00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: a great job. I think it's a great job. The 1025 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: owner is going to be willing to spend money. He's 1026 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 1: got it, and I think he's going to be willing 1027 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: to spend it. I think you've got your quarterback. I 1028 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 1: still believe in Trevor Lawrence. They have draft picks, they 1029 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: have cap room. I think you're in a pretty good 1030 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,399 Speaker 1: place if you're coming in there. Now. Do I think 1031 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,399 Speaker 1: as a head coach you're going to be handed all 1032 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: the power like Urban Meyer was. I do not. And 1033 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: you know what I think, Mark, As we've found out 1034 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 1: over the years and watching around the league together, we 1035 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: see in most cases that's not the best thing. In 1036 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,240 Speaker 1: most cases, it's the best thing when the coach coaches, 1037 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 1: and the GM works the roster and works the personnel 1038 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: and does all of that. When the jobs are separate. 1039 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 1: I think that's the way they will keep it from 1040 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: now on, and I think that will help them. I 1041 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: think they're a scary team going into twenty twenty two. Well, 1042 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 1: we talked about how the Titans are different since the 1043 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: Texans and Tennessee met last time. What do you think 1044 00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 1: of the Texans situation because different quarterbacks starting now. Obviously 1045 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: was Tyrod Taylor part of that win for Houston that day? 1046 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 1: The turnover bug bit hard on Tennessee that afternoon. The 1047 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: rain was falling. It will not be falling indoors on Sunday, 1048 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,800 Speaker 1: I can tell you that. What are your thoughts on Houston. 1049 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 1: I think they're smart to play Davis Mills right now 1050 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 1: and find out what they have. I remember when Davis 1051 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 1: Mills was coming out of high school Mark because I'm 1052 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: a recruiting junkie, and I remember that he was a 1053 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: number one quarterback in America and that everybody thought he 1054 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 1: was the deal. And it's because of what his size was. 1055 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: And you know, he's sneaky athletic running at four eight, 1056 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: and I mean he's got good he's got good power 1057 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 1: throwing the ball from the pocket. He can make every 1058 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: single throw. I thought the Texans stole him in the 1059 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 1: third round. I thought he might even sneak into the 1060 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 1: end of the first round. Somebody might grab him as 1061 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 1: their air apparent, you know, like a Tampa could take 1062 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,799 Speaker 1: him as the as their guy for the future. I 1063 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: think he's got that kind of ability. I really do. 1064 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 1: And I think we've seen through the three three hundred 1065 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: yard performances and you know, sixty six percent completion percentage 1066 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 1: that he's the real thing. And so he changes the 1067 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: Texans dramatically in terms of what they're able to do offensively. 1068 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,439 Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, if the Titans don't turn 1069 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 1: the ball over five times in the game here, that 1070 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: probably doesn't work out the same way based on what 1071 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 1: Houston was able to do offensively in this situation. I 1072 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 1: think with Davis Mills, I don't think the Texans need 1073 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 1: five takeaways to have a chance to win the ball game, 1074 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 1: because I think Mills gives them more offensive potential. Mike Keith, 1075 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: voice of the Titans, joining us on Texans Radio. All right, 1076 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 1: let me give you some teams. You've seen all these 1077 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:52,280 Speaker 1: teams up close, so giving your thoughts sure into January. 1078 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 1: Let's start with the New England Patriots. You were up 1079 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: there in Foxboro a few weeks ago. Good team. When 1080 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 1: they play clean, they are there as as anybody. They 1081 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:06,280 Speaker 1: can beat anybody. They are not quite as dynamic offensively 1082 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 1: as some of the other teams in the AFC, so 1083 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: they will have to play their game to be able 1084 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,360 Speaker 1: to win it. I think Mac Jones is a good player. 1085 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,480 Speaker 1: He does not look like a rookie quarterback. He looks 1086 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: like a guy who played at a big time program 1087 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:25,280 Speaker 1: like Alabama. Nice coaching job. The veterans that they've added 1088 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:30,280 Speaker 1: offensively and defensively clearly make them a very different team. 1089 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 1: But I tell you, they got Miami this weekend and 1090 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,359 Speaker 1: the Dolphins just seem to have their number right now. 1091 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 1: We'll see if that continues. All right, the Bills, you 1092 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 1: beat them October eighteenth by three. Thoughts best explosion possibilities 1093 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, and at times we 1094 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: have seen them live up to it, and they went 1095 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: through a low where they didn't. But with Josh Allen 1096 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 1: and with the weapons on offense and them with some 1097 00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 1: explosive guys on defense who can really get after you, 1098 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,400 Speaker 1: they're the team to me that's laying in the weeds 1099 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 1: to be able to win this thing. All right, So 1100 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 1: the Chiefs just lost the Bengals. You beat down the 1101 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 1: Titans did earlier this season twenty seven to three. Obviously, 1102 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: they're incredibly dangerous despite the loss of Cincinnati. What do 1103 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: you think of them going into the playoffs? That's Patrick Mahomes. 1104 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it comes down to is they've 1105 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: got him if they if they're able to, you know, 1106 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: sort of get some pieces back on offense from injury. 1107 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: And it looks like Edwards Hilaire is going to be 1108 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: back this week and they're certainly going to have him 1109 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 1: for the playoffs. It makes them even more explosive. The 1110 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 1: other thing that's happened too, Mark is putting Chris Jones 1111 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 1: back on the inside on defense, adding Fowler from Pittsburgh 1112 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,239 Speaker 1: on the outside. Jones really wanted to play defensive end, 1113 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,359 Speaker 1: and so they're like, okay, you can play defensive end. Well, 1114 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: they weren't as good on defense with him out there. 1115 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 1: Moving him back inside and adding Melvin Fowler, suddenly their 1116 00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 1: defense has more pop as well. This is why for 1117 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 1: the Titans this is a big deal. If you can 1118 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 1: win this football game on Sunday and clinch home field, 1119 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 1: you don't have to go to Kansas city for an 1120 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 1: AFC championship game. That could be a big factor because 1121 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, you know what a tough place that is 1122 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: to win, and the last two years it's been a 1123 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,760 Speaker 1: tough place to win in January. All right, So the 1124 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: Titans played the Steelers on December nineteenth, and the Steelers 1125 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 1: won the game. But there you were hinz Field and 1126 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 1: you knew it was Roethlisberger's last year. We all saw 1127 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's last home game the other night. What were your 1128 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: thoughts about that seeing that unfold? I mean, this is 1129 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,399 Speaker 1: the end of an era there. And I know it's 1130 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 1: the Steelers and it's an AFC rival and all that, 1131 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,439 Speaker 1: but it is an NFL special thing in a way. 1132 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,879 Speaker 1: And Steeler fans are special. You know, they're the real thing. 1133 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 1: They're the real McCoy. And you know, we had a 1134 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,440 Speaker 1: walk to the car after the game of nearly a 1135 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 1: mile and you know, you're wearing your Titans gear and 1136 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: you've just lost, and the Steeler fans couldn't have been nicer. 1137 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: You know, they had a lot of class, and you 1138 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: know that's that scene because of who they are is 1139 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,839 Speaker 1: a big deal. They're royalty in this league and they've 1140 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: earned it and they act like it. I think roethlisbergers 1141 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 1: come to the end of the line. We lost to 1142 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 1: them on a day where we never should have lost. Offensively, 1143 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,439 Speaker 1: they just don't have the pop that they once did. 1144 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger always had that ability to run around and make 1145 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 1: plays and that's not his game anymore. But at the 1146 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 1: same time, they're the Steelers. I mean, why are they 1147 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 1: entering Sunday eight seven and one? The only reason is 1148 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 1: because they're the Steelers. Because they think they're the Steelers, 1149 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 1: and very few teams in the league have that kind 1150 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 1: of moxie. Went their quote unquote down and yet they're 1151 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 1: still right in the middle of this thing until the end. 1152 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 1: And that's the type of respect you have to have 1153 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 1: for that organization in my opinion. Yeah, very well. Put 1154 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,480 Speaker 1: Mike Mike Voice of the Titans with us. All right. 1155 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: So last year the Titans won the division for the 1156 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 1: first time in a long time, since two thousand and eight, 1157 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 1: now the Titans have wanted back to back. What does 1158 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 1: it mean? I know it's all about championships, but this 1159 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,959 Speaker 1: is a nice little feather in the cap. Obviously, good 1160 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: trend here for the Tennessee franchise. It is. I mean, listen, 1161 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 1: it was hard to win it last year. I had 1162 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 1: to bank in a field goal to win that one. 1163 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: And you've said it right, it's been twelve years. I 1164 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: think what it comes down to is the Titans have 1165 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 1: been the most consistent over the last six years with 1166 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 1: John Robinson. They've had a plan, They've stuck with the plan. 1167 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 1: Some things have not worked, but the majority of them have. 1168 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 1: And continuity is such a big deal. Just being able 1169 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 1: to have the continuity that the organization has. It starts 1170 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 1: with our owner Amy Adams. Strunk is fantastic and she 1171 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 1: has given everybody the ability and the resources and the 1172 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 1: freedom to do what they need to do. And you know, 1173 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 1: the division titles are a result of I think the 1174 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: continuity overall, six straight winning seasons, which is the second 1175 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 1: longest in our franchise's history, which is over sixty years, 1176 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 1: as you know. So I think the continuity is such 1177 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 1: a big deal. You know, not pulling the trigger at 1178 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 1: just one minute where things don't look right or something 1179 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 1: doesn't grow right. You keep doing. You believe in your plan, 1180 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 1: you do what you do, and that's what they've been 1181 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 1: able to do. And so you're in it now. I mean, 1182 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 1: the season is a success. The question becomes how big 1183 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: a success can it be? And that's what we're going 1184 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 1: to see in the next few weeks. All Right, one 1185 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 1: more for you, Mike. Last week it was announced that 1186 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 1: former Texan and dare I say, former Titan and cults? 1187 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:57,480 Speaker 1: Pardon me while I collect myself, Andre Johnson is a 1188 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: finalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Anouncement comes 1189 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 1: out super Bowl a week. Is Andre Johnson a Hall 1190 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 1: of Famer in your opinion? And he's yours? I know 1191 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 1: he's yours. He won a game for us in Detroit, 1192 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: so we appreciate him. But this is a guy that 1193 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 1: was the epitome of class. He would have he would 1194 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: certainly be on my all opponent team that I would 1195 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: have over twenty years of doing this. He did it. 1196 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 1: He did it the right way. He made big plays 1197 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 1: in big situations. He wasn't just good, he was great. 1198 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame is for the great, and this 1199 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 1: guy is a great. So I certainly hope he goes 1200 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 1: in right away and gets that opportunity. Because I was 1201 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 1: fortunate enough as you were to see him play. You 1202 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 1: were more fortunate to call the majority of his games. 1203 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 1: And when you have players like that that play for you, 1204 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 1: it's what really makes this job so special. And even 1205 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 1: when you're calling guys on the other teams, you know, 1206 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 1: when you have an opportunity to see people play to 1207 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 1: a special level. I mean, you don't love it that 1208 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 1: they do it to your club, but at the same time, 1209 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,600 Speaker 1: you do appreciate that they're doing it at this level 1210 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 1: because you appreciate what the National Football League is all 1211 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 1: about and how special these athletes are. Andre Johnson is 1212 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 1: a great and belongs in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 1213 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: Oh that's great. Thank you so much for the time, Mike, 1214 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: and we appreciate you saying that. Hopefully he gets in 1215 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 1: on Super Bowl week and we can celebrate all offseason 1216 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 1: long the matter at hand, Texans and Titans on Sunday. 1217 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for the time, Mike, Mark, Thank you. 1218 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 1: In this job, I've got an opportunity to meet a 1219 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 1: number of different play by play voices, voices of particular 1220 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 1: teams across the league. One of my great friends, a 1221 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 1: silent reporter both TJ. Reeves down in Tampa Bay with 1222 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, my man salth Capaccio with Buffalo of gotten 1223 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 1: to meet different people. Mike Keith is one of the best. 1224 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:14,800 Speaker 1: I absolutely love what he brings to the Titans. I 1225 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 1: love is his broadcasting energy. I love when he jumps 1226 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: on the show Love. We get a chance to catch 1227 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 1: up with him with the combine. Hopefully there is a 1228 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 1: combine and we'll be able to be there, and I 1229 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 1: know for a fact we'll definitely catch up with Mike Keith. 1230 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 1: There now another guy that I loved during his time, 1231 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,400 Speaker 1: not only is a player, but wasn't here when he 1232 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,479 Speaker 1: was playing. It was right when he retired he came 1233 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 1: over and well he was around our radio station a lot. 1234 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 1: Got to be good friends with him. We call him 1235 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 1: Patch Mac. You guys know him as Marcus Coleman. It's 1236 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 1: a little Wednesday where they now with Drew Doherty with 1237 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 1: Marcus Coleman next right here on Texas All Access. I 1238 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 1: know we've got a lot of really big fans out 1239 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,480 Speaker 1: there today, but I gotta get some props Today's fan 1240 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 1: that's dyking. These guys are doing big things in Houston. 1241 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,360 Speaker 1: From comfort and convenienced air quality, dike In's innovations are 1242 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 1: changing our people enjoy the indoors as they lead the 1243 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 1: way to a more sustainable future, reducing our carbon emissions 1244 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 1: to net zero by twenty fifty. As the world's number 1245 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 1: one air conditioned company, Dyken is committed to perfecting the 1246 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 1: air that connects us all. Learn more at perfecting the 1247 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:26,600 Speaker 1: Air dot Com. It's Dyke in and it's me John Harris, 1248 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 1: football In Analyst and Salo reporter, and it's your Doherty 1249 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: and it's where are they now? And that means it's 1250 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 1: time for Marcus Coleman to get on the show. This 1251 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 1: is gonna be fun, Marcus and Drew take it away. 1252 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 1: This is a real treat because we've got an original 1253 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 1: Houston Texan Marcus Coleman, a defensive back in Marcus. We 1254 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 1: were just joking off air, we're probably gonna need to 1255 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,880 Speaker 1: do about six or seven of these over the next 1256 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,960 Speaker 1: couple of years because you've crossed paths with just about everybody, 1257 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 1: not just in the NFL but in your football life really. 1258 01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:00,960 Speaker 1: But first things first, we see the background there. Trinity, Yeah, 1259 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 1: what's going on coaching the secondary and Trinity the university subvision. 1260 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 1: It's sub Division three school here in San Antonio. Similar 1261 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 1: to we kind of called ourselves the Ivy League or 1262 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 1: the Stamford of the South just because of the academic requirements. 1263 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,919 Speaker 1: Athletically we were you know, just as good as well. 1264 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,320 Speaker 1: So we unfortunately lost in the first round of the 1265 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 1: playoffs this year. So just you know, trying to build 1266 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 1: on next year and right now, you know how the 1267 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 1: college round is. Everybody's recruiting right now, so we just 1268 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 1: got off the road, just trying to get it in. Man, 1269 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 1: we're doing good. Yeah, how'd you choose to go to 1270 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 1: Trinity as far as as coaching, because you've done a 1271 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,040 Speaker 1: few different things since you left the NFL after the 1272 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 1: sixth season, right, Yeah, I was coaching indoor actually my 1273 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,920 Speaker 1: last year in Dallas. The head coach, Jeremy Irman, he 1274 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 1: and I kind of crossed pass coach played about eighty 1275 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 1: nine years, but it was in the early part of 1276 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 1: his career. We kind of crossed paths and then just 1277 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 1: kind of got introduced with Jason Menix and that win 1278 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 1: for those of the Yeah, you know our A and 1279 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 1: M plans. Yes, we just kind of reconnected that way. 1280 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 1: That and I were doing radio on ESPN twelve you 1281 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,440 Speaker 1: spend its own twelve forty Daniel san Antonio. We just 1282 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 1: kind of reconnected that way, and you know, as I 1283 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 1: was going through my indoor coach to phase Coajer was 1284 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 1: working his way to being the head coach, and you know, 1285 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 1: shortly after he got he brought me. Like I mentioned 1286 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 1: at the top, you're an original Texan and a lot 1287 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 1: of folks that are watching and listening to this, they 1288 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,400 Speaker 1: know a lot about the guys that played in the 1289 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 1: last few years, but they don't know about the sort 1290 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 1: of the history of the franchise and how things started. 1291 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 1: You were almost part of a package deal with Aaron Glenn. 1292 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,360 Speaker 1: You guys have been starters for the Jets at corner, 1293 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 1: and the Texans plucked you and a lot of other 1294 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 1: really really good defensive players and a few other offensive players, 1295 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 1: but really good defensive players in that first expansion draft 1296 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 1: and in two thousand and two wins and losses, they 1297 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 1: don't really come the way you'd like, but that's that's 1298 01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,960 Speaker 1: what happens with an expansion team. But you guys still 1299 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 1: had had a hell of a defense and you were 1300 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,120 Speaker 1: a main part of that. Well, yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, 1301 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 1: you know what, actually Aaron and I ended up playing 1302 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 1: what's across the eight and nine years together. Yeah, you know, 1303 01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,800 Speaker 1: between the Jets and then He's the way that it started, 1304 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, getting guys like Jamie Sharper, obviously Seth, Gary Walker, 1305 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 1: Guys like that could come in and that have won before, 1306 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, in different places. I think that was you know, 1307 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 1: what mister Castilely and coach Kapers were trying to do. 1308 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 1: They were trying to get guys that had experienced particular defense. 1309 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 1: It's easier to build a defense, you know, start a 1310 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 1: lot faster kind of way to the offense to catch up, 1311 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,960 Speaker 1: you know, as they get the rhythm going and get 1312 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 1: some cut new and he gets some other guys a 1313 01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 1: place to where you know, they get to the level 1314 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 1: that you want. So you know, I thought we obviously 1315 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 1: held our own, you know, as much as we could. 1316 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,720 Speaker 1: But being young on offense, you know, I honestly I 1317 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 1: probably would have liked to have seen David you know, 1318 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 1: probably wait a year or so behind that, but obviously 1319 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 1: that's about my pay grade. So we were trying to 1320 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,040 Speaker 1: do everything, trying to make sure that we played the 1321 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 1: kind of football that we wanted, and we were kind 1322 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 1: of old school and in regards like coach Fan Jail 1323 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 1: who was at DC at the time, like coach Kapers, 1324 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, their old school, run to the ball, tackle, 1325 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,880 Speaker 1: physical kind of coaches. That's the background that they come from, 1326 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,320 Speaker 1: and we just tried to love to that and try 1327 01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 1: to do that every weekend. I mean, it was fun, 1328 01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 1: but obviously you don't get the wins, and you know 1329 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 1: the win that you want, but it was fun coming 1330 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,360 Speaker 1: in and kind of laying the groundwork for everything you 1331 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 1: know that's happened up to this point. All right, let's 1332 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,360 Speaker 1: rewind back to your high school days. You went to 1333 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 1: a place in Dallas, Lake Highlands, And for those that 1334 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 1: don't know, there have been many, many great football players 1335 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 1: who went onto the NFL play to Lake Highlands. Texans 1336 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,959 Speaker 1: fans know about Wade Smith. He was in the NFL 1337 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,640 Speaker 1: for about a decade. He was a pro bowler. Here 1338 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,439 Speaker 1: you have Phil Dawson, the kicker, who was a little 1339 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:29,520 Speaker 1: bit after you. I'm guessing right, it feels about a 1340 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 1: year or two after me. Yeah, Merton Hanks, a whole 1341 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 1: lot of guys. But you were on a team, correct 1342 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,440 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. You were with Detron Smith who 1343 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,240 Speaker 1: made it to the NFL and Derek Culler's a couple 1344 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 1: of running backs that ran the wishbone. Were you also 1345 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,680 Speaker 1: a running back as well, or did you play both ways? 1346 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,320 Speaker 1: Or how good was this this Lake Highlands team you're on? 1347 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,800 Speaker 1: Oh man, it was so good. I actually started it 1348 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,439 Speaker 1: in the beginning. I played a little bit of wide 1349 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 1: out or tight end. Obviously only got a couplications and 1350 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,880 Speaker 1: then you know, but over the free safety four a time, 1351 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,959 Speaker 1: So I didn't played a lot of both ways a lot, 1352 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,040 Speaker 1: and at that point, no one we were running the 1353 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 1: whishpone didn't want to anyway. So I displayed made defense, 1354 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, defensive special teams. But we were good. It 1355 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 1: ended up so my sophomore year we lost to Huntsville 1356 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,719 Speaker 1: Dan in Waco, UM and that team was actually loaded 1357 01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 1: to Larry Walker, Ady Robinson, you know, borrowing a lot 1358 01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,640 Speaker 1: of those guys, and then with Detron myself Garry we 1359 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:27,639 Speaker 1: lost selectually ended up playing Carter in the Cotton Bowl. Wow. Yeah, 1360 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 1: huge game. Yeah. So it was about thirty six thirty 1361 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 1: seven thousand, you know even back then, yes, graz Yeah. 1362 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,920 Speaker 1: So so we ended up losing the Carter that year, 1363 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 1: and then the next year we placed Carter again in 1364 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,800 Speaker 1: the first round and they barely be this my senior year, 1365 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,360 Speaker 1: so those teams were good. Man. We had some some 1366 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,720 Speaker 1: guys that there were some really good athletes that came 1367 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 1: out of Lake Collars and Half for a long time. 1368 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,519 Speaker 1: I mean, you can go back as far as Alfredo 1369 01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,080 Speaker 1: Griffith tight End. He came out of Lake Hollars Hall 1370 01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,680 Speaker 1: of Famer. I mean, I know that was a while back, 1371 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 1: but there's been a lot of guys that made it 1372 01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,679 Speaker 1: to the NFL that have come out of Lake College. 1373 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 1: And I think at one point, I want to say 1374 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,599 Speaker 1: it was while I was playing. Obviously, um, we had 1375 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 1: more guys in the NFL from Lake Hoilands High School 1376 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,639 Speaker 1: than anybody at one point. Wow, I want to say 1377 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,559 Speaker 1: it was like midway through my career. There were a 1378 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 1: bunch of us just kind of floating around, you know, 1379 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,040 Speaker 1: a lot of different teams than you know during that time. 1380 01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,120 Speaker 1: So did you play for his the Foudo or was 1381 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 1: he after you? Yeah? Okay, he was a pretty famous 1382 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 1: guy up there in the Dallas. I know a little 1383 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 1: bit about this because I went to ask MU. I 1384 01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 1: graduated from SOMEMU in two thousands, but I started there 1385 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,640 Speaker 1: in ninety six. My roommate was from Lake Hylands and 1386 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,360 Speaker 1: the guy that lived across the two guys lived across 1387 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:35,960 Speaker 1: the hall where two of his buddies from Lake Hylans. 1388 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,360 Speaker 1: So I heard all about Lake Hylands football and all 1389 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,080 Speaker 1: that made a pretty good they're a pretty good team 1390 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:41,920 Speaker 1: like when we were in college. But yeah, I saw that. 1391 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 1: I was like, holy cow, three guys from one team 1392 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I knew you guys ran that Wishbone. 1393 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 1: So and then you go on to Texas Tech, where again, 1394 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:52,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you're on one of the best Texas Tech 1395 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,880 Speaker 1: teams to that point. You guys made the Cotton Bowl 1396 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 1: and you hadn't been to the Cotton Bowl I think. 1397 01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,680 Speaker 1: So it's what like the forties or fifties maybe, or 1398 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 1: it was. It was it was a while. You're on 1399 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,040 Speaker 1: there with Zack Thomas and uh and a lot of 1400 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,160 Speaker 1: other guys. What was that like playing out in West 1401 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,840 Speaker 1: Texas after what you did in high school and you know, 1402 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 1: being around the talent that was out there at that time. 1403 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,479 Speaker 1: It was fun because you know what it was, and 1404 01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,320 Speaker 1: it's weird. It was one of those things where it 1405 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 1: was kind of a rebuild. I mean again, you know 1406 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,240 Speaker 1: outed up. You know when comes Dikes and they made 1407 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 1: a hard push hit a lot of the guys, you know, 1408 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,280 Speaker 1: in Dallas, to be honest with you, So outside of myself, 1409 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:31,160 Speaker 1: I know from Carter, there were about five or six 1410 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 1: guys alone, you know that they kind of came over, 1411 01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 1: you know in my freshman class. And then you get 1412 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,400 Speaker 1: Zach out of Pampa Jerome Woods and came out of 1413 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 1: Jerome Jerome who came out of Prosbyton, so he just 1414 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:44,679 Speaker 1: you know, kind of scattered around. We had a couple 1415 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 1: of guys from California, you know, kind of come in 1416 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 1: and I mean it really was a rebuild and Sam 1417 01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:50,960 Speaker 1: the opportunity to build it up to get to the 1418 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,480 Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl, even though in some spots we were outmatched. 1419 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 1: That USC team that year. I think everybody under too 1420 01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 1: Deep went in the first and second round that year. 1421 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 1: It was it was believe you know, that was the key. 1422 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,920 Speaker 1: Shawn Brad Johnson, you know all that, you know, all 1423 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:08,480 Speaker 1: those Yeah, Curtis Conway like, yeah, that that whole group. So, uh, 1424 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:13,839 Speaker 1: Willie mc ginnis on that team too, will McInnis, So yeah, 1425 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 1: that's what I think that I think the first at 1426 01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,960 Speaker 1: least the first I know, the first two d those 1427 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 1: dudes hadn't gone second and third round. Everybody, that's how 1428 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,720 Speaker 1: low that they were out. They were good though, So yeah, 1429 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,800 Speaker 1: we came out fast and you know, ended up losing 1430 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, a boy a lot, but having an opportunity 1431 01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,000 Speaker 1: to play and get back. It wasn't step forward for us, 1432 01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,479 Speaker 1: just because again you're kind of sitting, you know, sending 1433 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,439 Speaker 1: a tree or building the path for you know, the 1434 01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,639 Speaker 1: guys below us. And we're getting some group of croups 1435 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,720 Speaker 1: in ninety six, the first and the Big twelve. They 1436 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,720 Speaker 1: can't go ask playing you know, for Coach Dikes, but 1437 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,160 Speaker 1: he was retiring at that point. Then you get Leach 1438 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,559 Speaker 1: and he rolls in and you know, gets the rolling. 1439 01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 1: So you know that's you know, kind of what it 1440 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:49,800 Speaker 1: was about, you know, but it was exciting though it's 1441 01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:51,920 Speaker 1: time to look. You ever crossed paths with Mike Leach? 1442 01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 1: I know he was after you're playing days, but yeah, no, 1443 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,800 Speaker 1: Coach LEA have seen each other on and off over 1444 01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,760 Speaker 1: the years, and I can have talked to each other. 1445 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 1: I like those leaks. Yeah, funny guy definitely understands the 1446 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 1: game himself, since humor is a little different, you know, 1447 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,960 Speaker 1: which is fine. But you know, but I like him 1448 01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:09,559 Speaker 1: a lot. You know, he's he's a really good coach. 1449 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,640 Speaker 1: He's that have a lot of good things and and uh, 1450 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:13,760 Speaker 1: you know he's doing well now. So yeah, I like 1451 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,280 Speaker 1: the ways say a little different because he's a he's 1452 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:16,840 Speaker 1: a Martian. You know. I worked out in Lubbock for 1453 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,360 Speaker 1: about four years and I hosted his coach. He's a Martian, 1454 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,400 Speaker 1: and I would tell him that to his face and he, uh, yeah, yeah, 1455 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,920 Speaker 1: he probably. That's kind of hard to quantify about martians 1456 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,400 Speaker 1: and everything. Yeah, yeah, he was. He also had it. 1457 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,120 Speaker 1: He has a people don't realize this, I don't think, 1458 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:31,840 Speaker 1: but he has a pretty good sense of history and 1459 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:36,719 Speaker 1: so like, yes, you bring up Marcus Coleman, really great player, 1460 01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,479 Speaker 1: played great history here at Texas Tech. One of the 1461 01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 1: great players. You know, he would he would rattle off 1462 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,719 Speaker 1: your stats. He knew about the guys that had come before, 1463 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,400 Speaker 1: and you know, whether it was a guy like you 1464 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,400 Speaker 1: or Zach Thomas or all the way back to you know, 1465 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:51,080 Speaker 1: guys like EJ. Holliban whatnot. But yeah, anyway, he does 1466 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,960 Speaker 1: he that he does, but he's he doesn't. I don't 1467 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,920 Speaker 1: think he does it on purpose. I think he just 1468 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,880 Speaker 1: likes to know that, you know, those kind of things, 1469 01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,719 Speaker 1: you know, he likes to retain that kind of information. 1470 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,960 Speaker 1: This just kind of who he is. Got a curious 1471 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,640 Speaker 1: mind for sure. Ye. So you leave Texas Tech, you 1472 01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,240 Speaker 1: go into the NFL and you go to the Jets. 1473 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:11,160 Speaker 1: Tough first year, but then Bill Parcels comes to town. 1474 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,320 Speaker 1: And Bill Parcels, if you follow his history, he comes 1475 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 1: in and he turns things around. What was that like 1476 01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,400 Speaker 1: playing for Bill Park What was your first Bill Parcels moment? 1477 01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,320 Speaker 1: Because I don't think I've ever met anybody that played 1478 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,320 Speaker 1: for him that can't recall what happened the first time 1479 01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,639 Speaker 1: they met him? What was that like? Oh, well, leaving 1480 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,360 Speaker 1: I guess after risk Coatype left and Bill comes in. 1481 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,680 Speaker 1: There's some video. Guy, I'm trying to pick the one. Well, 1482 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,439 Speaker 1: give me the first one, the best one, just like 1483 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,880 Speaker 1: the what do you first remember seeing him like or 1484 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,640 Speaker 1: interacting with him? What was that like? It was? And 1485 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:46,400 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I was a little not 1486 01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,240 Speaker 1: a It wasn't fear. It was more kind of like 1487 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,840 Speaker 1: the old you know what, look who's in town kind 1488 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,640 Speaker 1: of dude. Sure, so, you know, introducing himself to him 1489 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,320 Speaker 1: and talking to him, you know he and he's kind 1490 01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:01,040 Speaker 1: of like he already knows everything about everybody you know 1491 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,160 Speaker 1: before he walks into the building, you know, which is 1492 01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,280 Speaker 1: crazy considering he didn't have a lot of time to 1493 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,640 Speaker 1: do that. You know, I do remember, you know, and 1494 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:09,559 Speaker 1: this is kind of the famous one that a lot 1495 01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,360 Speaker 1: of people do, know that we were in training camp 1496 01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,160 Speaker 1: and I've missed the call or something whatever it is, 1497 01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,040 Speaker 1: and he started calling me the wizard, you know, so uh, 1498 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, I meaning, you know, it wasn't very smart, 1499 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, doing that particular time. So I didn't get 1500 01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,880 Speaker 1: offended by it obviously, you know, I'm from the old school. 1501 01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:25,880 Speaker 1: And that's kind of how our coach it was. He 1502 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,839 Speaker 1: was really really hard on us, like he was mentally 1503 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,840 Speaker 1: and physically, especially in the beginning when he first got there. 1504 01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 1: Training camp is about eight weeks long. It was a 1505 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,519 Speaker 1: couple of weeks like it is now. You know, we 1506 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,400 Speaker 1: were we were pretty much in full past every day. 1507 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,599 Speaker 1: You know, we'd start training camp off on tertain days, 1508 01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,240 Speaker 1: but even kind of practice just live goal you know, 1509 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,160 Speaker 1: live goal line period, you know, to start practice off. 1510 01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,200 Speaker 1: But he was one of those guys where he knew 1511 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,799 Speaker 1: how to put things together. And that's you know, everybody 1512 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 1: always makes fun of the or talks about him, you know, 1513 01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,400 Speaker 1: going to the grocery store being able to pick the groceries, 1514 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,200 Speaker 1: how to deal with him, and they come in here 1515 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,840 Speaker 1: in Dallas wooll Yeah, because he's really cooking his dish. 1516 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,360 Speaker 1: So when he you know, when he's put putting players 1517 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 1: in certain positions, when you see the revolving door as 1518 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,920 Speaker 1: you're coming to the facility of guys that are just 1519 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,760 Speaker 1: coming in and coming out, you know, that's him, you know, 1520 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,200 Speaker 1: kind of you know, making his dish and saw ed 1521 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,800 Speaker 1: and pepper or you know, taking a little one out, 1522 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,240 Speaker 1: adding a little water. But he was he was really 1523 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,519 Speaker 1: good at doing that. And but the thing is, as 1524 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,800 Speaker 1: hard as he was, he loved every one of us. 1525 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,160 Speaker 1: If he jumped you, but I mean, don't get me wrong, 1526 01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,560 Speaker 1: he rip you like it was no tomorrow. But he 1527 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,840 Speaker 1: put you to the side, whether it be during the 1528 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:36,760 Speaker 1: play or he hits you in the hallway, he was like, hey, 1529 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,680 Speaker 1: come see me. You know, he'd love you up and 1530 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,519 Speaker 1: he'd tell you the why. So it wasn't one of 1531 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,040 Speaker 1: those things where you didn't know. You know, you always 1532 01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,040 Speaker 1: knew where he stood, you know when he when he 1533 01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:46,560 Speaker 1: was talking to it, it was him just trying to 1534 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,640 Speaker 1: get the best out of you and be mentally and 1535 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,759 Speaker 1: physically prepared or to go out and play. But he 1536 01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,080 Speaker 1: he was awesome, man, I mean he I mean, I've 1537 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 1: had some really I've really been best to have some 1538 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,759 Speaker 1: really good coaches going on back to co Z Coach Dikes, 1539 01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:04,160 Speaker 1: Coach Papers and Fangio, you know, to coach you know, Parcels, 1540 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 1: even you know Belichick and dev whole crew, Rag you 1541 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,360 Speaker 1: know who's down in Houston. You know, I've really been 1542 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 1: blessed in the part of you know, just kind of 1543 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,439 Speaker 1: that whole coach a lot that I've had the opportunity 1544 01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,120 Speaker 1: to play for. Yeah, and you know he felt the 1545 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:17,559 Speaker 1: same way back. I mean he was, He's a fan 1546 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,800 Speaker 1: of year because you obviously you started while you were 1547 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,200 Speaker 1: there with the Jets, but then he brought you in 1548 01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,320 Speaker 1: when you when he was at the Cowboys in oh six, 1549 01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,800 Speaker 1: well after the fact, he didn't do that with everybody. 1550 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,640 Speaker 1: So if he brought guys in, because I remember I 1551 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,800 Speaker 1: was in Dallas when he came to the Cowboys and 1552 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,360 Speaker 1: oh three and that that training camp, he brought in 1553 01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 1: about four or five guys who had played for him 1554 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 1: before and they were sort of tone setters leaders. He 1555 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,320 Speaker 1: there were his guys that he wanted in, and by 1556 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:43,800 Speaker 1: the time you came in, you know he had he 1557 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 1: had been there a while, but that was an important 1558 01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,120 Speaker 1: thing in his mind to bring back guys who had 1559 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,479 Speaker 1: played for him before, wasn't it. Yeah, it was because 1560 01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,519 Speaker 1: and like you said, the leadership qualities that he felt 1561 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,920 Speaker 1: some guys had, also understanding and knowing what he expected 1562 01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,439 Speaker 1: day in and day because he's not one of those guys. 1563 01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,200 Speaker 1: He's not gonna babysit anybody like he's I hate to 1564 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,360 Speaker 1: use the player of coach thing, but he understood the 1565 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,760 Speaker 1: kind of guys that he needed in the locker room 1566 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,599 Speaker 1: take care of certain things, whether it be in house fights, 1567 01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,720 Speaker 1: or you need to get somebody to get practice going 1568 01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,400 Speaker 1: the right way, or needed somebody to talk to somebody. 1569 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:21,160 Speaker 1: Because he wasn't a railroad guy. He's never been that way. 1570 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,160 Speaker 1: But when you have like we had in New York, 1571 01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, you have a Pepper Johnson come in, you know, 1572 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,679 Speaker 1: somebody like that that played for Bill knows what it wants. 1573 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,360 Speaker 1: You know. Jerome Henderson, who plays safety, came over from 1574 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,439 Speaker 1: New England understood who was a Curtis Morton who came 1575 01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,200 Speaker 1: in the same thing. So what he did he was 1576 01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,080 Speaker 1: doing that in Dallas. It was the same thing. You 1577 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,720 Speaker 1: get certain guys playing them in the locker room. You know, 1578 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:43,559 Speaker 1: let him play good seeds, you know, kind of keep 1579 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,080 Speaker 1: everything going and be good leaders. So he enjoyed doing it, 1580 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,080 Speaker 1: and you're right, he didn't do it, but a lot 1581 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,880 Speaker 1: of guys. So I'm definitely fortunate, you know, to be 1582 01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, to have been one of those dudes. But 1583 01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,400 Speaker 1: that's what he was about though. That's him showing how 1584 01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:56,960 Speaker 1: much he cared and how much he loved, you know, 1585 01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,800 Speaker 1: loved his players. You know, you guys went pretty far 1586 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:01,719 Speaker 1: with the Jets. You know, you went to the AFC 1587 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,720 Speaker 1: title game, and then the next year you're loaded, and 1588 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,040 Speaker 1: everybody remembers that Testiver he goes down that first week, 1589 01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:08,880 Speaker 1: but you know, what was your what was your favorite 1590 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,240 Speaker 1: time there with New York? What's your favorite memory from 1591 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,040 Speaker 1: those days? Playing man? That was the one because the 1592 01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,840 Speaker 1: next year, so we lose, we lose the Alway. But 1593 01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,640 Speaker 1: that was his first up of how they end up 1594 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,559 Speaker 1: beating Atlanta. Crazy thing about that is is we just 1595 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,719 Speaker 1: beating Atlanta earlier that year. So as we were rolling 1596 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 1: down and you know, kind of going through it, we're 1597 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,080 Speaker 1: like Okay, if we're actually watching, because we actually we 1598 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,639 Speaker 1: had the later game because I think Minnesota Minnesota Atlanta 1599 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 1: were playing earlier, you know, earlier, and we were watching 1600 01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:36,599 Speaker 1: the end of that game in the locker room getting 1601 01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,920 Speaker 1: ready for our game, uh and going out, and it 1602 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,559 Speaker 1: was that whole scene. It was like time slowed down 1603 01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,240 Speaker 1: during that moment because you could kind of feel that 1604 01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:46,920 Speaker 1: we were right there. You know, all we had to 1605 01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:48,920 Speaker 1: do was going to be different. There was a good team. 1606 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean obviously Alway rosterm up to Real Davis, you know, 1607 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:53,680 Speaker 1: Shannon Sharps there. You know, they had a good, really 1608 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,040 Speaker 1: good team. In the first half, we were kind of 1609 01:18:56,080 --> 01:19:00,200 Speaker 1: on course. Then whatever mileha God blew the kickoff back 1610 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,400 Speaker 1: doing it. You know, we wind up and you know, 1611 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,320 Speaker 1: and you know, ball starts going back forwards and from 1612 01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,800 Speaker 1: then owner's kind of downhill. But uh so that that 1613 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,720 Speaker 1: moment was pretty significant and actually another you know, and 1614 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,400 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of different moments we had. The moment 1615 01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,719 Speaker 1: where we had to win and get into the playoffs 1616 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,360 Speaker 1: would be Oakland to go to the playoffs, they had 1617 01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 1: to fly back to Oakland next week to go play 1618 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 1: them in the first round. And that's when Oakland had 1619 01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,360 Speaker 1: Bryce and to Brown rich Skin and you know they 1620 01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:28,120 Speaker 1: were pretty good too. We end up losing to them. 1621 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,960 Speaker 1: So we lost the two Super Bowl winners, you know, 1622 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,640 Speaker 1: a couple of years in a row. But in the 1623 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,680 Speaker 1: middle of that is um you know obviously when nine 1624 01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:41,639 Speaker 1: eleven happened. So those are the last season with the Jets. Yeah. Yeah, 1625 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,720 Speaker 1: So for me, it was because we were one of 1626 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,679 Speaker 1: the main people that they called. They were like because 1627 01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:49,600 Speaker 1: we had to fly to Oakland that week, right, like 1628 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,400 Speaker 1: when I fly to Oakland that week, So you know, 1629 01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,560 Speaker 1: the league actually called us, and honestly, they kind of 1630 01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,920 Speaker 1: allowed us to kind of you know, set the table 1631 01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,599 Speaker 1: for canceling that entire weekend, you know, the entire week 1632 01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, football, just because we didn't need to you know, 1633 01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:06,080 Speaker 1: we needed to go down, you know, go down to 1634 01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,240 Speaker 1: the city and help out if we could, or you know, 1635 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,720 Speaker 1: try to figure out some things, and so the league 1636 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:11,920 Speaker 1: let us do that. So for me, that was a 1637 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,640 Speaker 1: problem moment because we were one of the initiators of that, 1638 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, the cancelation week, you know, and the coach 1639 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,120 Speaker 1: came in and talked to us and kind of laid 1640 01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,000 Speaker 1: it out for us, and like, look, if y'all don't 1641 01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,320 Speaker 1: want to go, y'all have to go. We're like, no, 1642 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,559 Speaker 1: we're not going. What's going on is a lot more 1643 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,560 Speaker 1: important than play the football game. So those are just 1644 01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,320 Speaker 1: a few from during that time, good and bad moments. 1645 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,720 Speaker 1: You know that you know significant through and that you 1646 01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,320 Speaker 1: know during that time. So man, you saw quite a bit. 1647 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,960 Speaker 1: And then the next sprint you wind up coming to Houston. 1648 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,680 Speaker 1: What was that expansion draft? Like you obviously knew what 1649 01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:42,720 Speaker 1: was going on, But when did you first kind of 1650 01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,160 Speaker 1: find out, like, hey, I'm probably headed to this new 1651 01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:48,320 Speaker 1: expansion team you knew, I don't know, probably like thirty 1652 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,240 Speaker 1: minutes before it happened. Really obviously everybody's on the Yeah, 1653 01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,600 Speaker 1: because everybody's on the phone, they call it whatever it is, 1654 01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,000 Speaker 1: and so they call it you and tell you that 1655 01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,559 Speaker 1: they're gonna put your own the expensive draft and leave 1656 01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,760 Speaker 1: you and protect Like, okay, fine, Obviously I thought we 1657 01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,920 Speaker 1: had a good shout at going just because you know, 1658 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,640 Speaker 1: and this is gonna be blown on on, but you 1659 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,519 Speaker 1: had pretty good, you know, two pretty good corners from 1660 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,960 Speaker 1: one team. You know, it's kind of, you know, be 1661 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:14,479 Speaker 1: the cornerstones or the building blocks of your organization. You know, 1662 01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,559 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you take them? Yeah, so you know, both 1663 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,840 Speaker 1: Texas guys both understanding, you know, Aaron's from Houston. About 1664 01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,800 Speaker 1: thirty minutes before Agent Tim Jimmie Sexson was like, yeah, 1665 01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,759 Speaker 1: you guys are going. It's like okay, it wasn't really 1666 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,560 Speaker 1: it's not exciting as the draft for you know, the 1667 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,240 Speaker 1: first time, but it was still fun being I guess 1668 01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,599 Speaker 1: selected as one of the original you know, original guys 1669 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,640 Speaker 1: and kind of being known and being the face of 1670 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:40,519 Speaker 1: the you know, as the team is coming back, you know, 1671 01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,960 Speaker 1: being in original texts for sure, coming in and you're 1672 01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:45,519 Speaker 1: the ones that you know, kind of have to lay 1673 01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:49,120 Speaker 1: the groundwork. So myself, Aaron Gary tone of the Selly said, 1674 01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, we had to be the ones of Jamie, 1675 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, Jamie Sharper. We had to be the ones 1676 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,040 Speaker 1: to come in and kind of get it, get it going, 1677 01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,200 Speaker 1: you start laying the groundwork. And like I said, that's 1678 01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,040 Speaker 1: what we were expecting, you know, that's what was expected 1679 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:00,759 Speaker 1: of us. A lot of us came from winning programs, 1680 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,160 Speaker 1: the Jamie One Super Bowl. Already Geary was playing Will 1681 01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:08,080 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, obviously going to the playoffs three or four 1682 01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,559 Speaker 1: times in New York. So obviously understanding you know how 1683 01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,040 Speaker 1: to do that between Aaron and I. So you know 1684 01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,400 Speaker 1: that's why Charlie Kessley, that's why you selectives. You know, 1685 01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:19,400 Speaker 1: that's what we're there for. Great to hear Marcus Coleman 1686 01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,679 Speaker 1: on the show this evening. All right, we get back, 1687 01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,360 Speaker 1: we'll hit our final notes on this Wednesday edition of 1688 01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:33,559 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. Access Access. We've got one final segment 1689 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,160 Speaker 1: of this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access, our last 1690 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:42,320 Speaker 1: Wednesday All Access of the twenty twenty one season. I 1691 01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,559 Speaker 1: am your host, have been your hostess. Is the eighth 1692 01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,080 Speaker 1: year that I have done that. John Harris Football on 1693 01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:51,160 Speaker 1: a sideline reporter and hard putting the words what your 1694 01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,120 Speaker 1: guys support has meant being able to do the show 1695 01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,639 Speaker 1: every single Wednesday, every single Friday. I'll save my tears, 1696 01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,760 Speaker 1: I guess and everything for Friday because that'll be the 1697 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,639 Speaker 1: last well, no, it won't be the last All Access 1698 01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,599 Speaker 1: show the season. That'll come on Monday after the Texas 1699 01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:09,000 Speaker 1: take on the Tennessee Titans. The game stayed at noon 1700 01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,160 Speaker 1: this one. There actually was a little bit of a 1701 01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,560 Speaker 1: rumor going around that potentially this game was going to 1702 01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:18,040 Speaker 1: move to Saturday. But the game that ended up moving 1703 01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:22,880 Speaker 1: to Saturday was the Chiefs and the Broncos, which if 1704 01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:27,519 Speaker 1: my math is correct. If my math is correct, the 1705 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:35,719 Speaker 1: Chiefs lose that game on Saturday. I'm it's pretty darn 1706 01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:41,479 Speaker 1: close at that point whether the Titans have then sealed 1707 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,120 Speaker 1: the number one seed. Now, I do think the Patriots 1708 01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,160 Speaker 1: can still play a role and the Bills as well 1709 01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,080 Speaker 1: can still play a role in getting that number one 1710 01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,240 Speaker 1: seed if the Chiefs lose. But the Chiefs are the 1711 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,400 Speaker 1: team right now at eleven and five, and if they 1712 01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,280 Speaker 1: tie with the Titans, then the Titans would end up 1713 01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,280 Speaker 1: winning the division. And so keep it on what the 1714 01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:06,960 Speaker 1: Chiefs do on Saturday against the Broncos, which it'll be 1715 01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,640 Speaker 1: exciting in its own right. That game will kick at 1716 01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,800 Speaker 1: three thirty Central. Other Saturday game and some news with 1717 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:17,240 Speaker 1: that one, Cowboys take on the Eagles. Micah Parsons just 1718 01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,400 Speaker 1: put on the COVID nineteen list. Now we have seen, 1719 01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,920 Speaker 1: as we saw with Carson Wentz last week, put on 1720 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,240 Speaker 1: a list earlier in the week, you got an opportunity 1721 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:28,680 Speaker 1: to get back on Sunday. Now, wentstdon't play exceedingly well 1722 01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,200 Speaker 1: against the Raiders. But beside the point to get a 1723 01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:35,360 Speaker 1: guy like Michael Parsons back for the Cowboys. We'll see 1724 01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:36,960 Speaker 1: if he's able to do that. The Cowboys can't win 1725 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,719 Speaker 1: the number one seed or get the number one seed 1726 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,639 Speaker 1: like the Titans can, because that's wrapped up with the Packers, 1727 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:47,639 Speaker 1: and the Packers play on Sunday against the Detroit Lions. Obviously, 1728 01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:49,959 Speaker 1: we'll keep it on our game, but in the afternoon 1729 01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,240 Speaker 1: there are a ton of games that are going on 1730 01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:57,280 Speaker 1: that are gonna have playoff implications, including Patriots at the Dolphins, 1731 01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:01,040 Speaker 1: the Cardinals taken on the Seahawks. They've got an opportunity 1732 01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals due to win the division depending on what happens 1733 01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:04,600 Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers and the Rams out in 1734 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:08,720 Speaker 1: so far, the NFC West is probably the most intriguing 1735 01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:12,439 Speaker 1: one of the day. All Right, I gotta thank Mark 1736 01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,639 Speaker 1: Van America, gotta think Mike Keith, Drew Doherty, Marcus Coleman, 1737 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:20,000 Speaker 1: DP City, Jim Wyatt, Nick Cassario, all of you for listening. 1738 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,680 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We will see you tomorrow right 1739 01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,280 Speaker 1: here in Sports Radio six ten. Thank you again, and 1740 01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:27,400 Speaker 1: it's always Go Texas.