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Speaker 1: Words have power.

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Speaker 2: I like that deadass.

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Speaker 3: The word that came to mind when our guests walked

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Speaker 3: through the door was Christmas.

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Speaker 2: And you'll see why dead as dead ass. Hey, I'm

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Speaker 2: Kadeen and I'm Devout and we're the Ellis's.

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Speaker 1: You may know us from posting funny videos with our.

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Speaker 2: Boys and reading each other publicly as a form of therapy.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I'll make you need therapy most days. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Oh and one more important thing to mention, we're married.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, we are. We created this podcast to open

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Speaker 1: dialogue about some of Li's most taboo topics.

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Speaker 2: Things most folks don't want to talk about.

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Speaker 4: Through the lens of a millennial married couple. Dead ass

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Speaker 4: is a term that we say every day. So when

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Speaker 4: we say dead ass, we're actually saying facts one hundred

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Speaker 4: the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

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Speaker 1: Were about to take philos off to our whole new level.

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Speaker 2: Starts right now.

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Speaker 4: All right, So story time, all right, this story time

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Speaker 4: is going to include our guests. So, as you guys know,

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Speaker 4: next week there's a movie that comes out call Meet

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Speaker 4: Me Next Christmas. And it just so happens to be

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Speaker 4: the first time I'm actually a lead on the film.

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Speaker 4: So I walk into the place where we're gonna go

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Speaker 4: do this scene, and we're at the scene and it's

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Speaker 4: as I walk in there like shirrkay please follow us.

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Speaker 4: Do you know how to get downstairs? All I hear

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Speaker 1: Is no, no, absolutely not no.

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, I think if I just follow the voice,

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Speaker 1: Everyone's laughing. Right when I get downstairs.

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Speaker 4: Kaylen is dressed as his character is for that scene,

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Speaker 4: and I'll let you all see the scene. I'm not

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Speaker 4: gonna spoil it. Like Caylen is screaming at the top

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Speaker 4: of his lungs about Beyonce to someone else that's a

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Speaker 4: Kylen looks at me and goes, hi, no, no, And

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Speaker 4: I was like, Wow, this is gonna be fun, and

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Speaker 3: I love that it's giving Christmas and Beyonce should have

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Speaker 3: that come on, now, that is fat all right, y'all?

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Speaker 2: Karaoke time.

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Speaker 4: So y'all know how I normally do karaoke, right, I'm

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Speaker 4: not doing karaoke.

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Speaker 2: I'm not doing that, neither the person.

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Speaker 4: Whose voice I heard from downstairs in the theater. It's

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Speaker 4: going to bless us, okay, with his favorite holiday song.

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Speaker 3: I mean not to put you on, yes to put

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Speaker 2: I do, so it's giving kill me get a sneak pe.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So since it is coming out Friday, but if

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Speaker 1: So look, we tied it in together.

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Speaker 5: So if you've ever seen The Grint, right, there's a

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Speaker 5: it is my favorite Christmas song of all time, and

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Speaker 6: Are you Christmas? Why can't I find you? Why have

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Speaker 5: Play here, baby, that's my song I love.

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Speaker 1: Where are you Christmas? Can I hear how I heard

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Speaker 2: Nothing? You know where Christmas is? Outside my house? I

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Speaker 3: I put my When Kaylyn got here, Kaylyn said, is

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Speaker 2: We'll have the hot Coco ready to go. Baby.

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Speaker 4: It's so bad that she had the spider webs all

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Speaker 4: They're like, ma'am, ma'am, this spider web.

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Speaker 1: She said, don't worry. She moved the spider web. They

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Speaker 5: I literally was like, here you guys, because the Christmas

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Speaker 1: So really it's the nightmare before Christmas.

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Speaker 2: You see, Okay, what you did there?

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Speaker 4: I see what you did now she's gonna do this

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Speaker 4: every year now, Kaitlyn, it gets it gets pushed back

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Speaker 2: Excuse baby, is about to be Labor Day.

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Speaker 1: You have lights and Labor day.

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Speaker 3: Actually, let's stop and pay some bills because our light

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Speaker 3: with more with Kaitlyn Allen?

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Speaker 4: All right now, so yeah, we're back a right, trying

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Speaker 4: to Hi Jack trying. First of all, this is no,

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Speaker 3: Don't do that.

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Speaker 2: Are we gonna fight over Kaitlyn today?

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Speaker 4: Whose I did was to have Kaitlyn come on the show?

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Speaker 4: Trouble who was it? Oh?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 4: So you know what, We'll let trible start. Who gets

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Speaker 4: to talk when we come back, trouble with me and Kadeen.

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Speaker 4: She's gonna choose Kadeen. I don't even know why. I

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Speaker 3: Basically, I come back and bring us in and then

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Speaker 3: we talk about story times.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hmm, let me host the show in the middle Street.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'd like to come back now now that we're

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Speaker 3: Today we have Kaylin all literally in our house. Kaylan

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Speaker 3: Allen is an actor, comedian, and Internet personality who gained

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Speaker 3: viral reaction videos, Actually so you were doing those for

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Speaker 3: a minute, and he's been the co host of a

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Speaker 3: podcast with Ricky Lake, Raised by Ricky, and is a

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Speaker 2: And recently, Kaylin landed his first Broadway role.

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Speaker 3: In Elf Okay Darling and as if He's not busy enough.

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Speaker 3: Kaylan is also co starring in the new holiday film

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Speaker 3: Meet Me Next Christmas, alongside the val Christina Milion and

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Speaker 3: My Boy Kofi. When I heard he was in the film,

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Speaker 3: all around amazing human being one of my favorite follows

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Speaker 3: to this day Instagrams, Cayln, thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: I'm so, so so happy to see you, bro yo.

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Speaker 4: So the reason why I was so excited to get

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Speaker 1: I forgot who else was down there, but we were

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Speaker 4: We talked about where we started in the industry, because

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Speaker 4: But when you started telling me all the things you

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Speaker 1: So can you take us back to the beginning.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but before I get there. Something that I actually

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Speaker 2: Oh well, you just love that.

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Speaker 4: But you gave me a realization, right, how much so

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because you have a greater belief system too, though

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Speaker 4: Like nobody can tell me God don't exist, right, So

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Speaker 5: I think also even to go far beyond there, and

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Speaker 5: It's this idea that this person that does not know

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Speaker 4: Yeah, We're very similar, but in being creative but also

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Speaker 5: Because I knew if I was there every day, they

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Speaker 5: You know, I think that comes a lot from my

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Speaker 5: I think at least to you having burnout, and I

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Speaker 4: Rather, I personally felt like that because because when you

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Speaker 4: I finally got to point now, where I'm like, man,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to take these breaks, like you said,

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Speaker 5: I think than that, I think it is egos, also

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Speaker 5: can come with you, and sometimes people cannot. Right, I'm

441
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Speaker 5: sure you have grown and people that you used to

442
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Speaker 5: talk to you be like, yeah, that was great. Always

443
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Speaker 5: tell people life is like a puzzle. And sometimes when

444
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Speaker 5: you're putting together a puzzle, you get a piece and

445
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 5: you try a twist and turn to make it fit

446
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 5: in any way, and it does not fit right. But

447
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 5: then you find a piece that does fit right, and

448
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Speaker 5: then you keep putting that piece together, and you keep

449
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Speaker 5: putting that puzzle together, but that but then eventually that

450
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 5: piece does fit and the piece that fit earlier still

451
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Speaker 5: exists within your puzzle, but it's already served its purpose.

452
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Speaker 3: That's agreed and always having a similar conversation with Tabitha

453
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Speaker 3: Brown because people are like, girl, stick to the videos

454
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Speaker 3: making vegan food, because that's how we fell in love

455
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Speaker 3: with you, And she's just like baby like that was

456
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Speaker 3: that was a means to that was getting me to

457
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Speaker 3: a bigger purpose and to whatever else God happens store

458
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Speaker 3: for me.

459
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Speaker 2: So I can completely relate to that.

460
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Speaker 3: Deval and I had to have a conversation because this

461
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 3: year for us was very very much a transition year.

462
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Speaker 3: We feel like it was a year kind of like

463
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Speaker 3: repositioning ourselves, reassessing. And at one point we were away

464
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Speaker 3: on some business trip, you know, the children were home.

465
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Speaker 3: I'm one of the boys was sick, and we really

466
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Speaker 3: looked at each other and we were like, what are

467
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Speaker 3: we doing?

468
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Speaker 1: No for real, Like we both looked at each other like.

469
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were like the whole point of us working

470
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Speaker 3: the way we've been working and working to build this

471
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Speaker 3: legacy for our boys was to have autonomy over our

472
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Speaker 3: time so that we can do the things that we

473
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Speaker 3: really want to do. We can spend the time with

474
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Speaker 3: the boys that we really want to spend and make

475
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Speaker 3: it quality. And in that moment, we were both like,

476
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Speaker 3: we got to shut some of this down, Like just

477
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Speaker 3: moving and trying to be in every space, at every event,

478
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 3: at everything was not serving its purpose for us. It

479
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 3: was just busy work after a while, you know. So

480
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Speaker 3: it's funny because I just pulled. I had sent this

481
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Speaker 3: to de Val and you mentioned by asking what his

482
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Speaker 3: sign was all this, and I'm like, oh my goodness, Val,

483
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Speaker 3: this was any other confirmation. You know. I kind of

484
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 3: teeter a little bit on like the signs, but ultimately

485
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Speaker 3: I'm like, God knows what's happening with our lives. But

486
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 3: it said you've been running full speed all year, chasing

487
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Speaker 3: goals like your life depends on it. But not everything

488
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Speaker 3: worth having needs to be rushed. It's time to leave

489
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Speaker 3: behind the idea that doing more faster is the only

490
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Speaker 3: way to succeed. Twenty twenty five will be a year

491
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Speaker 3: to slow down, breathe, and trust that the right things

492
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Speaker 3: will come at the right time. A man, you don't

493
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Speaker 3: always need to force things. Some doors open when you

494
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Speaker 3: simply stand still and do that.

495
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Speaker 4: You literally just gave that same message. She sent this

496
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Speaker 4: to me. I think it was three or four days

497
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Speaker 4: ago here. So it's funny how we keep hearing the

498
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 4: same messages. Like to be honest, I was like, I

499
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Speaker 4: want to bring Calen here to talk about his journey.

500
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Speaker 4: You've already delivered so much more than just talking about

501
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 4: your journey, because you've been a reminder to us at least,

502
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Speaker 4: And I know we have some listeners who are probably

503
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Speaker 4: on their way to work right now, just hustling, hustling

504
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Speaker 4: because that's all they know, because they don't know how

505
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 4: to be still, you know what I'm saying, And listening

506
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 4: to you and listening to that again, we all have

507
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Speaker 4: to learn at times to be still so that we

508
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Speaker 4: can move forward.

509
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Speaker 5: Exactly for your own growth too, of getting to know

510
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Speaker 5: yourself better and to be able to look at the

511
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Speaker 5: growth or to see what's changed or see what about

512
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Speaker 5: you you want to do differently, you know what I mean,

513
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Speaker 5: Like you have to have those moments of introspection. But

514
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 5: even with you're talking about like the slow down and

515
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Speaker 5: the calmness, right because you talked about me you know,

516
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Speaker 5: taking a break. And it's like, even with me being

517
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Speaker 5: in Atlanta right now, you know, when you texted me

518
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Speaker 5: about coming, I was like, well, I don't know. I'm

519
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 5: in rehearsals. I said, I don't know if I'm going

520
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 5: to be able to get off, you know, or something

521
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Speaker 5: like that. And then I got the call from Michelle

522
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Speaker 5: Obama's team. You know, but even that being a regular,

523
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Speaker 5: like that being normal, you know what I mean to

524
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Speaker 5: be like. But I think that's where I am very

525
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Speaker 5: proud of myself that I have devoted myself to making

526
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Speaker 5: sure that I do good work and I do stand

527
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Speaker 5: up work.

528
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The fact that people will call me to do

529
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: stuff like this absolutely, you know what I mean.

530
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Speaker 2: It's not about who you know, it's about who knows.

531
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: You exactly and wants you exactly. But what you said

532
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: is important. You you always do good work.

533
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Speaker 4: A lot of times people are quick to say, oh

534
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 4: I got black balled or they don't like me, and

535
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 4: it's just like, well, can we take a look at

536
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 4: the work you've put forth before that to see if there.

537
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Speaker 1: Was something you might have done. No one ever wants

538
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: to think about that.

539
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 4: They always feel like someone's slighting them I always tell

540
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Speaker 4: even tell my boys, I'm like, yo, listen, You're not

541
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 4: important enough for other people to go out of their

542
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 4: way to mess your life up.

543
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Speaker 2: Bro.

544
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely, if you if something's messed up in your life,

545
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 4: more than likely you got it.

546
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Speaker 1: There right, fix it right.

547
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Speaker 5: I also think it becomes very dangerous when we get

548
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Speaker 5: to a place where we feel we are above critique.

549
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Speaker 5: I think that can be very dangerous. I don't live

550
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Speaker 5: like that. I'm always open to critiques. Contain right, and

551
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 5: I can take the critique and I could be like, Okay,

552
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 5: yeah that's not true or that's not right. But I

553
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 5: don't take that to heart.

554
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Speaker 1: Like it doesn't.

555
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Speaker 5: It doesn't change who I am. Even when we're talking

556
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 5: about confidence, you know, of how I enter every room.

557
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 5: I enter every room like I'm supposed to be there.

558
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Speaker 5: You know, because even when you're talking about people telling

559
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,239
Speaker 5: you what we want you to just stick to this

560
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 5: that has to do with their own insecurities.

561
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Speaker 1: That ain't got nothing to do with you. You know.

562
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Speaker 5: It's because so many people have become so comfortable with

563
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Speaker 5: being stagnant in their own life and not having the

564
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 5: courage to chase their own dreams. They don't want other

565
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 5: people to because they want to be able to feel like.

566
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Speaker 1: I am against relatability.

567
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Speaker 5: I don't like it. I don't think it's real. I

568
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 5: don't think people should aspire for it.

569
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Speaker 2: I think it's like because mediocrit as well.

570
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Speaker 5: Right, I'm like, we all live very different lives, and

571
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Speaker 5: especially if you have worked hard for what you got

572
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 5: and what you can do, you should be able to

573
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Speaker 5: really bask in that to its fullest potential, you know

574
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Speaker 5: what I mean, and not be worried about what somebody

575
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Speaker 5: else gonna think. Because when we talk about humility, it's

576
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Speaker 5: like that should be based on how you treat people.

577
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Speaker 2: Achieve.

578
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Speaker 4: I think humility is based on how you treat people

579
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Speaker 4: because they always tell a person to be home, the

580
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 4: person that's always fucking with other people, you know what

581
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 4: I'm saying. The humble person doesn't matter how much they

582
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: bask or what they wear. If that person is genuinely humble,

583
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 4: no one ever tells that person to be humble. I'm

584
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Speaker 4: trying to think of an example.

585
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: Well, not necessarily though, because you know you can be

586
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: proud of For example, to Kyln's point, knowing that I

587
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: aimed to land this role on Broadway and I landed it?

588
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: So am I going to be excited or not too excited?

589
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: Or if someone congratulate to you're like, oh, thank you

590
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 3: so much, but they're expecting you to be like, oh

591
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 3: my god, I can't believe this. It's like, no, someone

592
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 3: can say that he's not humble because he expected that

593
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 3: it was going to happen, you know what I mean.

594
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Speaker 4: Wow, See I didn't even I didn't even think about that. See,

595
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 4: my mind don't even work like that. My mind doesn't

596
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Speaker 4: even my mind a minute. You said you worked for

597
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Speaker 4: something and you got there. I never thought that he weren't.

598
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 4: You wasn't humble. I just thought, man, he works for that.

599
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Speaker 2: But you know what, I think people's reaction to it.

600
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Speaker 5: Possibly, yes, I think that also is because you're an athlete,

601
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 5: you know. And I think the thing about that is

602
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 5: fair because I always always say this thing. You know,

603
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Speaker 5: people love to be like actors get hate there's much

604
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 5: money for something like that. But you never hear that

605
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 5: critique for anybody in the NFL. You never they will

606
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 5: be like, yeah, they should be be paid thirty million

607
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 5: dollars in the contract.

608
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 4: Well I understand why, though, I do, because it's a physicality.

609
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 4: Absolutely in your life on the line. But I think

610
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 4: it more comes down to how much money you generate.

611
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: Correct.

612
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 4: Athletes deserve to get paid, Actors deserve to get paid.

613
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 4: If I generate one hundred and eighty million dollars for

614
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 4: a film, I need to get at least twenty thirty

615
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 4: percent of that if I'm leading that.

616
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Speaker 5: That's just absolutely I just think in it as far

617
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 5: a sports, I feel like it's built in the culture

618
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 5: to be successful, you know, and to celebrate the confidence,

619
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 5: right will. I feel like on the other end, it's

620
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 5: almost like, Okay, you can be successful, but don't become

621
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 5: too successful.

622
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, right, Or don't be too

623
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: happy that you've become and at least people could tell.

624
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: It depends on the athlete.

625
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 4: For example, Aaron Rodgers can do the discount double check, right,

626
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 4: He does a discount double check when he scores a touchdown.

627
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 4: No one has a problem with it. Cam Newton does

628
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 4: a Superman and they tell him to be humble. So

629
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 4: it really depends on who celebrating. If you're a black athlete,

630
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: for example, Serena Williams, Right, Serena Williams, she hits an

631
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 4: ace and she cheered.

632
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: Oh, she needs to be humble and calmed down.

633
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, but if it's Shrypova, then it's look

634
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 4: at the fierce competitor.

635
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

636
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 4: It really depends even with athletes what they look like

637
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 4: and what they represent. Absolutely, But you're right though, athletes

638
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 4: are told if you work for like if you beat

639
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 4: somebody in something and you earned that, you can talk trash.

640
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: Right, It's just what it is.

641
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 5: But I think you know, because athletes, I think people

642
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 5: the general public has a better understanding of how athletes

643
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 5: become who they are. Well, I think a lot of

644
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 5: people don't understand this world. I don't think people don't

645
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 5: They don't know the intricacies that come into it, the

646
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 5: work that goes into it. I think they look at

647
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 5: it and they think it looks easy and it was like, oh,

648
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 5: you just got lucky, and they don't know everything else

649
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 5: that goes into it.

650
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: That's true, can I can?

651
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: I can relate to that because I've had people sometimes say, oh, well,

652
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: y'all just do videos or y'all just do you know.

653
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: You just hold a camera up and it's made to

654
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: look easy, but they have no idea as you elevate

655
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: too within this, like this whole thing with Val and

656
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Speaker 3: I started with him holding up his I phone and

657
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: you know, using iMovie to edit videos, and we were

658
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Speaker 3: doing that and now it's like a full like we're

659
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 3: literally like an ecosystem for people and their livelihood, you know,

660
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: because of the elevation of the type of quality content

661
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: that we're putting out there.

662
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Speaker 5: I'm glad you said that, because a lot of people

663
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 5: don't also don't understand that a lot of people don't

664
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 5: understand that sometimes the reason why I have to fight

665
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 5: for certain stuff or or I'm fighting to get more

666
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 5: recognition or notoriety is because, yeah, there are a lot

667
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 5: of people that pay their bills because of me. There

668
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 5: are a lot of people that take care of their

669
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 5: family because I am paying them. And so yes, I

670
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 5: have to be able to win. It's more than just me.

671
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 5: It's not just about me.

672
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: And it's like there's so many other people that need

673
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: me to win.

674
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: Maybe the sleepless nights, yes, but that's sitting up and wondering, OK,

675
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: he wins the next check coming in and this year's everybody.

676
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: Nobody's been working this year.

677
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 5: My endsident are now talking about Yeah, I had to

678
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 5: go get a corporate job or I had to go

679
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 5: do this, that and the other. And it's like, yes,

680
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 5: that that's great and all, but it's like when you

681
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 5: think about the arts, it's the fact that you devote

682
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 5: so much of your life to it to think that, well,

683
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 5: why can't I survive just like everybody else?

684
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: You know, like for me, like I still ain't got

685
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: a degree.

686
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, you're currently getting my master's in journalism

687
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 5: and I'll be done with that soon, you know what

688
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 5: I mean. So it's just like it's like, if I

689
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 5: donet work so hard, why shouldn't I be able to

690
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 5: just make a living and live my life?

691
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: You know? Why do you devalue?

692
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 5: And I always say that, especially during the strike, you know,

693
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 5: when people are being so hard on actors for striking,

694
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, you don't even understand how people are paid.

695
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 5: If you are not an a list actor, you are

696
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 5: not making no money.

697
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: That you say on that billboard? What happens to grips

698
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: and lighting? And you know, there's so much.

699
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 5: That's into it, so many people are affected, And I'm like,

700
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 5: but but when you go home, and when you've been stressed,

701
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 5: you go home and watch your favorite You go home

702
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 5: and watch your favorite movie. You go listen to your

703
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 5: favorite song. We the artists are providing you that escape,

704
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 5: so you should want us to be able to do that,

705
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 5: so that you can escape from that. And when you

706
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 5: don't work that nine to five and they don't got

707
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 5: on your nerves and the only thing that's gonna.

708
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: Make you happy is going home and watching the team,

709
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Every Thursday.

710
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 4: We're joking, But the truth is there would be no

711
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: mental health, there would be no space of.

712
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: Peace if it wasn't for art. Absolutely, like that's in all.

713
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: Like in all genres of anything, in all cultures, people

714
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 4: when they look for space for like to just be themselves, escape,

715
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 4: it's always to the arts.

716
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: No one, No one escapes to their money.

717
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 4: No, they escape to music, they escape to film, they

718
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 4: escape to theaters. So art keeps people human and art

719
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 4: tells stories. So for people who don't understand why artists

720
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 4: get paid so much, that is why.

721
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: And not for nothing.

722
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 4: You have to dedicate your life to be a great artist.

723
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: Yes you said, people don't realize. Okay, maybe I'm trying

724
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 4: to think of an artist that Denzel Washington, right, Oh

725
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 4: my god, he makes millions of dollars. There's one Jenny

726
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 4: Denzel Washington in the generation Tom Brady, There's only one

727
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 4: Tom Brady. All the other actors are trying to earn

728
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 4: a living, just like you. Your normal mom and pop,

729
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: you know, shop, your normal barber, like we all trying

730
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 4: to make money. The thing that I noticed that you

731
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 4: talked about today, though, is your recognition of business while

732
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 4: being an artists. And we have to I want to

733
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 4: close out on that before we get to listen to letters.

734
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: What would be your message, because we talked to our

735
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 4: artists people who are listening about always maintaining a job.

736
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 4: Right you said that you gave up a job or

737
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 4: you let it go because you didn't see your vision.

738
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 4: Talk about what it was about your vision that made

739
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 4: me choose Okay, this is a business moment, but this

740
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 4: here is an art moment, because that balance is how

741
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 4: you thrive as an artist.

742
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: You know. Actually, I think the better answers to that.

743
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 5: My pride and ego never gets in the way of

744
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 5: what jobs I decide to do, and I don't base

745
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 5: jobs that I take off of the money. I very

746
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 5: rarely say no. And I'd also do a lot of

747
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 5: stuff for free because I always know that sometimes the

748
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 5: payment that I will receive in the long run will

749
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 5: be worth more than money. I know that it will

750
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 5: want whether it's who is connected with, or what stages on,

751
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 5: or the opportunity I know in the long game will

752
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 5: work out in my favor, you know. And I know

753
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 5: more opportunities will come from me doing this one thing,

754
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 5: because the more I have on a resume, the more

755
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 5: experience I have, the more I can be paid on

756
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 5: the long run. Because they don't know how much I

757
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 5: was paid. I could have been paid zero dollars for

758
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 5: five jobs in a row and they don't know that.

759
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 5: But when they come because I have this on my resume,

760
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 5: then I can ask for a certain amount because it's experience, experience.

761
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: And exposure and you work with a good impression. I mean,

762
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: these are basics. I feel like that my mom has

763
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: always taught me.

764
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: It's not basic case, it's not basically basic for a

765
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: lot of people.

766
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 4: It's okay, it's not a lot of the things he

767
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 4: said right now, like yeah, yeah, it makes sense. But

768
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 4: if you explain to someone who's never heard it, they're like, yeah,

769
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 4: you know. I had to tell clients this when I

770
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 4: was training. It was like I don't want to train

771
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 4: that person for free. I said, Bro, you have no clients,

772
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 4: so you're either going to charge everybody one hundreds an

773
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 4: hour or you're going to start to build a client

774
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 4: list so that at some point someone will pay you.

775
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 4: Now you have ten clients you're training for free, but

776
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 4: they don't know that. I literally told my train is

777
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 4: that and it worked out. Here's my resume, here's my people,

778
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 4: this is what I charge. Oh, you got ten clients,

779
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 4: you must be good payment.

780
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 5: I mean, because if I'm being honest, like Broadway is

781
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 5: not paying me, they are underpaying people. Yeah, you know,

782
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 5: I'm like, it's not given what you think it does.

783
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

784
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 5: And it's like, but that's not why I'm doing it, right,

785
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 5: I feel I'm doing it because I love it. And

786
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 5: I based every job I took off of how much

787
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 5: I was being paid.

788
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: It was a whole bunch of I wouldn't be doing.

789
00:34:59,360 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: That's true.

790
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: That's funny, because I was.

791
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 3: Going to segue to Broadway, has it been preparing for

792
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 3: everything of it?

793
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: I mean considering look at you.

794
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: Said, he said, I don't make no money, but then

795
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: look at his face.

796
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: Is that where you're supposed to be.

797
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 5: I don't know about that part, okay, but it's on stage,

798
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 5: I mean, like, yes, I think.

799
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: It's more so.

800
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 5: The ability to just create something and in a collaborative way,

801
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 5: you know, with people that care so much about it

802
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 5: in the community that it brings you know what I mean.

803
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: Gosh, yeah, well meet me next Christmas.

804
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 5: I think had a little bit of that because we

805
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 5: were all stuck in a place that a lot of

806
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 5: us weren't from, you know what I mean, So it

807
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 5: was kind of inevitable. And I think also when you're

808
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 5: doing like a Christmas movie, it's a little different. It

809
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 5: brings you know, like all rooted in the joy and

810
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 5: it's a family film, so it had a little bit

811
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 5: of that. But the difference in this is like one,

812
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 5: it feels more like I've went home, you know, because

813
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 5: I haven't been on the stage since I was in college.

814
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: Wow, And so to be able to go back and

815
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: to be up there.

816
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 5: And also when you work in TV film, you know,

817
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 5: you don't get any gratification from it, like the fact

818
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 5: that I get to walk out to the stage door

819
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 5: every night, you know, and I.

820
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: Get to meet Pete and stuff like that, Like you

821
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: don't get that when you work.

822
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 5: It is nice to be able to connect to people

823
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 5: in a real way, you know, order to perform a number.

824
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 5: You're sitting there, You're looking at You're looking at the

825
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 5: kids smiling and seeing the joy and being able to

826
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 5: create that joy in the moment. And that's what I'm saying, Like,

827
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 5: it's not always about the money, It's about the experiences.

828
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: We haven't made a done. We've been on tour for

829
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: three years in a row.

830
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: We haven't made a dome, we haven't always breaking even

831
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: on them live shows. But baby, I come alive on stage.

832
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: Did you see my version of Beyonce? I get your approval, you.

833
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: Know I'll be tapped in.

834
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: I love that.

835
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: But you're absolutely right.

836
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 5: You are absolutely right, And I think that's the beauty

837
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 5: thing about being an artist. You just want to create

838
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 5: the art because you want to create it. I mean,

839
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 5: think about this Christmas album. There's no way I am

840
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 5: going to make back when I spent on that album.

841
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: There's no way. I'm not a music artist. I'm not Beyonce.

842
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 5: Maybe not sitting around waiting for the next Kaylen Christmas album.

843
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,959
Speaker 4: That's another thing though, people say, you know, why would

844
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 4: he you know, Why would he do this for even

845
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 4: with us?

846
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: Why would they do duvushal? Why would they do because

847
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to What do you mean why I have

848
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: no reason not to. I like to be on tour.

849
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: She liked, Beyonce, let's do it. I did it for me.

850
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 5: Yes, people did it for me and I because even

851
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 5: when I listened to the album now, I was like,

852
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 5: I have poured so much of myself into this that

853
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 5: that's the prize.

854
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: I've already gotten the reward.

855
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: I'm doing it for therapy for you. Did you feel?

856
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: Yes? Absolutely?

857
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 5: And when I was doing it, I also said, I'm

858
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 5: only doing this so that I can do Broadway. I said,

859
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 5: because I want I need to have some proof that

860
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 5: I can sing, that I can do.

861
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: This on that The only reason we did videos because

862
00:37:59,040 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to act.

863
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: I had proof that I could do something other than

864
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 4: just be a thug because I'm a black dude tattoos, right,

865
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 4: And that's the sole reason why I picked the.

866
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: Phone, like we want to be on TV here, yeah,

867
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: and we show people.

868
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 5: You need the proof of concept. You need to be

869
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 5: able to prove that you can do it. People don't

870
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 5: believe just by words with when you're a minority.

871
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: They they believe it when they actually finally see you

872
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: got to show it to them.

873
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 4: Moments of truth from this conversation. Yeah, I got so

874
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 4: many moments of truth. Yeah, at the end of the

875
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 4: just so you know, at the end of the conversation,

876
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 4: always do a moment of truth, like what did you learn?

877
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: And I got my moment of truth. I got a couple,

878
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: but I got there.

879
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: All right, Let's take a quick break and then we

880
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: can come back. Will you stick around for a couple

881
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 3: of listening letters before you go. We all little time.

882
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 3: I've been timing it so you can give it your

883
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 3: cents and what the people are talking about today. All right,

884
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 3: Let's take a quick break, pay some bills, and we're

885
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: going to get back into listener letters with our guest today,

886
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 3: Caitlin Allen.

887
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: Stick round.

888
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: All right, we're back and it is time for listener letters,

889
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: the moment in truth, all that good stuff, and I'll

890
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: dive right in with our first listener letter for today.

891
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 3: All right, Hello, Kadeen and Deval and Caitlin. A little background.

892
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: I'm thirty two, married with one son. He's six pregnant

893
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 3: with my second child, a girl, due December twenty ninth.

894
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: My husband's approaching forty in December. Also, I have a

895
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: full time job and used to braid here to bring

896
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: in extra funds to help us meet our wants. My

897
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: job helps me meet the needs. My husband works and

898
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: pays majority of the bills, but paid once monthly, and

899
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: lately it's been a struggle getting to the next month.

900
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: He's been miserable at his job for a few months,

901
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: even maybe a year. He's been there eight years. In February,

902
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: he was promoted last year. However, they let him know

903
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 3: they weren't interested in helping him reach his max potential.

904
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: He consistently complains about our financial situation, but won't start

905
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: a new job. Now that I'm pregnant, I'm no longer braiding.

906
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 3: I refuse to work to two jobs pregnant sidebark jobs

907
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: are paying locally twenty to thirty k a year for

908
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 3: his recent obtained status, which would make a difference in

909
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: our financial situation twenty to thirty kre year. He says

910
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 3: he wants to wait until I have the baby, but

911
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: to me, it's just an excuse. He's comfortable there and

912
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: doesn't really like change. I know he will be great

913
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: at his next endeavor, but he kind of always had

914
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: lower self esteem about himself and his abilities. It's gotten

915
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 3: better over the ten years we've been together, but I'm

916
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: seeing that more of these days with holding on to

917
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 3: changing jobs, and maybe it's more like imposter syndrome. So

918
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 3: look at that, and maybe it's more like imposter syndrome,

919
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: like he doesn't believe he deserves it.

920
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: We also plan to move.

921
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: From Ohio to Columbia, South Carolina next year or next

922
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: summer rather, and that's something that he's also been holding

923
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 3: him back from applying for better opportunities since he knows

924
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: we'd be helping us save and pay off some debt

925
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: to prepare for this move. He doesn't want to start

926
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: a new job and have to start in another state.

927
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 3: I say it's worth it. If he's scared to pull

928
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: the trigger in Ohio, I'm wondering if he will be

929
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 3: able to pull the trigger for a new state when

930
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: we move. I won't be working to adjust with the move, however,

931
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 3: I do plan to return after we lock in buying

932
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: a new home and currently selling.

933
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: I know what you're going to ask.

934
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: He told me that he would fill out applications this

935
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: weekend and he didn't.

936
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: He just watched football all weekend while I worked on

937
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: his relocation cover letter.

938
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: My question is, how do I support his standstill knowing

939
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: that he's worth more elsewhere, but won't take the steps

940
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 3: needed to move from this employer.

941
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta thought problem.

942
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 4: This is my thought and a lot of things go

943
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 4: back to trauma stuf for whatever reason that he has

944
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 4: in pasta syndrome, But it does seem like he's unwilling

945
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 4: to get up off his ass. Maybe because he's afraid

946
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 4: to try and fail. Well, maybe because he believes he

947
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 4: doesn't deserve it. We don't know why, because until we

948
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: hear his perspective, we won't. But I think that at

949
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 4: some point, as his wife, she should have that open

950
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 4: conversation with missay.

951
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,959
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm pregnant, I'm not getting another job.

952
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 4: The time to do it is now, Like you can't

953
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 4: keep saying tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow will ever come?

954
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: Like Kadein and I have talked about this in our marriage.

955
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 4: When you say something to your partner, your partner doesn't

956
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: want to hear hear you say you're going to do

957
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 4: something your partner wants to see you do what you

958
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 4: say you're going to do right and that.

959
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: This support to your partner and getting that done.

960
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 4: And at this point that's what she needs. She needs

961
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 4: to say, you got to get this done so I

962
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: can be of support.

963
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, because to be complacent for eight years in a

964
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,479
Speaker 2: job a long time.

965
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 4: I've never been to complacent for eight minutes in anything,

966
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 4: let alone eight.

967
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: Years develop went apple picking with me and the boys

968
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 3: are speaking and he.

969
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: Was I was on it.

970
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: He was on it eight minutes. He was ready to

971
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: got eight minutes.

972
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 5: I mean from what from the letter, it seems almost

973
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 5: as if she's ourlready had that conversation, and so at

974
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 5: this point I think it's no longer her responsibility. I

975
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 5: think this is more of a conversation of honestly therapy,

976
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 5: because this seems to be a little bit more deeply rooted,

977
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 5: you know, because it's the fact of like it feels

978
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 5: a little bit of like, yes, I'm comfortable and even

979
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 5: though I hate it, there if to me in his

980
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 5: mind feels like, well, this is easier than me having

981
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 5: to step into the unknown afraid to change, or having

982
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 5: to face yourself to have to work a little differently,

983
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Or scared that maybe if

984
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 5: you go in somewhere they may push you a little

985
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 5: differently or expect something different from you.

986
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: You know. So I think that's an internal thing of him.

987
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not a fan of we don't know

988
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 5: they race, but black women having to come to save

989
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 5: the man all.

990
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: The time, you know what I mean.

991
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 4: I talk about this all the time, and sometimes I'm

992
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 4: called misogynistic and sometimes i'm told old school. But I

993
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 4: don't think that it's a woman's responsibility to have to

994
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 4: do a heavy lifting. I think as a man, it's

995
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 4: your job to provide and protect. If you used discernment

996
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: to pick that woman, you chose to ask her, she

997
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 4: used descernment to choose you, and y'all said yes together.

998
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 4: So when she says she requires something, it is your

999
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 4: job as a man. Now, I've been called misogynistic.

1000
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: Because of that, I've been called old school. I think

1001
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: that's But a lot of people don't.

1002
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 4: They think that that's an old school way of thinking

1003
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: that it's a man responsibility. What if a woman wants

1004
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 4: to work, I said, I'm not saying she don't have

1005
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 4: to work. I'm saying she can work if she wants to.

1006
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 4: But if a man asks a woman to be his wife,

1007
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 4: that's your job.

1008
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: Bro.

1009
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 4: It pisses me off, bro, Like when a dude, I

1010
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 4: would I would tell drugs. I do anything if my

1011
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 4: wife and my kids needed to eat or something. It's

1012
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 4: nothing that I'm not doing, you know. I was eighteen

1013
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 4: hours in that gym. It.

1014
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: Oh my.

1015
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 4: There was certain times of people that I had to

1016
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 4: train and I couldn't stand.

1017
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: Now.

1018
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 4: When I was training our kids and the kids that

1019
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 4: I knew were invested in it, I loved it. But

1020
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 4: then there was ours where've I had clients who, you know,

1021
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 4: some women just needed someone event too, And I was like,

1022
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 4: you don't really want to work out, but I got

1023
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 4: to be there four thirty in the morning to hear

1024
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 4: you vent and you're only gonna do three push ups

1025
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 4: the whole time, right, you know.

1026
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: I had to do that for hours. But I'll do

1027
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 1: that for my family.

1028
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 5: I think that goes beyond a partnership. I think that

1029
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 5: can go on to just individual life. I hear a

1030
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 5: lot of people always talking about what they want or

1031
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 5: their dreams and aspirations, but don't want to put any

1032
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 5: work in on.

1033
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: It, you know what I mean?

1034
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: Many times said how else do you expect exactly.

1035
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 5: You just think it's going to be handed to you

1036
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 5: or it's going to come out of thin air. And

1037
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 5: that's why I'm saying, I think this is more a

1038
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 5: personal things. Yes, it's like he gotta want better for

1039
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 5: himself in order to want better for or to do

1040
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 5: better for you, you know.

1041
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: What I mean. Otherwise you're gonna always be in this battle.

1042
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: You know. That's why I start with trauma. Where does

1043
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: the imposta shim drone come from?

1044
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:48,959
Speaker 3: Right?

1045
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 4: Something happened and now you feel you don't deserve what

1046
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 4: you happen. He has to figure out what that is.

1047
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: I understand too.

1048
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: Sometimes within a relationship or just in general, as you said, individuals,

1049
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: you get into a rut, whether it's a creative or

1050
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: you may just feel like, damn, I'm in this dead

1051
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 3: end job, or just in this particular moment, I'm just

1052
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: not feeling like myself. And when you are in a partnership,

1053
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: it's nice to have someone kind of just like help

1054
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 3: push you along. But when you feel like you're literally

1055
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 3: having to drag someone to that somebody step.

1056
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, the whole A woman has to save

1057
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: a guy. I don't. I don't believe in that.

1058
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 4: I feel like a man has to be prepared to

1059
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 4: be a husband before he asked the woman to marry him, and.

1060
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're not prepared. I wasn't prepared.

1061
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 4: But when I got married and the ship was falling

1062
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 4: apart because my attitude was terrible and my ego was bad,

1063
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 4: I had to look within at that point and say,

1064
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 4: what can I do to change this? Like I can't

1065
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 4: say it's your job to motivate me, Like that's not

1066
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 4: what a man is supposed to do. He gonna have

1067
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 4: to work on that, right, you know what I'm saying.

1068
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 4: She realized that telling him the truth because that's what

1069
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 4: she used to do. Oh, sure did lots of truth moments. Baby,

1070
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 4: I don't know truth. Oh did you see that the

1071
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 4: thing I sent you about the tiger tongue? No, it

1072
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 4: is a tiger tongue and it has the look you nasty.

1073
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: There was a tiger's tongue and it had like the

1074
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 4: inside look at it, and it had like little razors

1075
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 4: on it, and it was like, the tiger's tongue is

1076
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 4: the second most dangerous thing in the world behind a

1077
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 4: woman's tongue. And then underneath it, it says a woman's tongue

1078
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 4: is so dangerous. It can speak life or death into anything.

1079
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 4: And when you think about how valuable that is, it's

1080
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 4: the truth. Think about the stuff your mom has said

1081
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 4: to you. There are things in my life that stick

1082
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 4: with me just because my mom said it. There are

1083
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 4: things that I know as a man because you've said

1084
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: it to Wow, you know what I'm saying.

1085
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 3: And now I have four boys, Yes, that makes me

1086
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: more mindful of the things that I say to them,

1087
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: though I try to be very hyper aware of that.

1088
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 3: There's been many moments where Devo is just like, you've

1089
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: never been a little boy before, you won't grow into

1090
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 3: a man.

1091
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 2: So like, take this approach.

1092
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Speaker 3: With the boys just so that I'm you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: just careful as to how I handle them, how I

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00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 3: speak life into them, how I you know, even reprimand them,

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Speaker 3: because I know the last thing effects that it will

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Speaker 3: potentially have. But that's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 4: There's an African proverb that says a managed to be

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Speaker 4: soft with his hands and a woman soft with her words.

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Speaker 4: And if you think about that, like so many different

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Speaker 4: versions of that is I think there's a verse in

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Speaker 4: the Bible that says something like that, a managed to

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Speaker 4: be soft with his hands, and she's soft with her words.

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Speaker 4: At the power the tongue, it all goes back to

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Speaker 4: what we started with the power that it is.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully she uses her.

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Speaker 4: Tongue to get him motivated in an unpauseworthy way.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, crazy. I wasn't trying to go there,

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Speaker 1: Igrance over. We only got time for one, got time

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Speaker 1: for one?

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Speaker 3: All right, It is all good, Kaylin. It's been a

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00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: great time having you, bro. We just scratched the surface.

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Speaker 3: It's going we need to do a reap it. Maybe

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Speaker 3: when we get to New York to do an episode

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Speaker 3: with him on.

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Speaker 1: I would love to.

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's so many things that we.

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Speaker 1: And you know, people going to say we cousins now

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Speaker 1: for real once they see it together. I would say that.

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Speaker 5: I would say of the movie, I thought that our

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Speaker 5: scenes together had the best chemistry.

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Speaker 3: Yes, as a non bias, well, I guess it's kind

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Speaker 3: of biased. I love the home every senior and babe. However, Kelln,

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Speaker 3: I do appreciate the scenes, even the kids. Some of

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Speaker 3: our families have seen it already because we've had a

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Speaker 3: little like access to it, and everyone like they were

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Speaker 3: it was so memorable memorable.

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00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: Thought stole thought you stole it.

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Speaker 5: But I and I texted you and I said, I

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Speaker 5: think you're the heart of the movie. There is something

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Speaker 5: and I think it was so nice to see, especially

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Speaker 5: like a black man lead, that there was a softness

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Speaker 5: to your character that felt like really brought the movie

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Speaker 5: together and kind of like steered the ship that I

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Speaker 5: really enjoy And I think also, and I do want

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Speaker 5: to say this, because Jordi is a very feminine, queer character,

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Speaker 5: and I really appreciated the comfort that you brought to

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Speaker 5: the to the to the set for me to be

1138
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Speaker 5: able to be that and for us to have that

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Speaker 5: relationship in the movie because I think about that, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: because I felt like that wasn't common. I feel like

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Speaker 5: a lot of times when you have that type of

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Speaker 5: character in the movie, usually the more feminine carror is

1143
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Speaker 5: like the comedic relief or the butt of all the

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Speaker 5: I think from the jump we kind of set the

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Speaker 5: president that we were going to make sure that we

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Speaker 5: felt like real family.

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Speaker 4: Well that's that's I'm glad you brought that up, cause

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Speaker 4: I completely forgot about that. But you and I made

1149
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 4: a point beforehand we sat down and I was like Yo,

1150
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 4: let's give them a handshake.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And he was like, why you want to give

1152
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Speaker 1: them a handshake?

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Speaker 4: I said, because I want them to see a straight

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00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 4: man and a game man on camera have a sort

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Speaker 4: of camaraderie and be physical and love each other.

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Speaker 1: Without people being like uh, and they can see us

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Speaker 1: do it naturally. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: But that's also just that's who Kadina. I worry about humanity.

1159
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Speaker 4: You just want all people to be able to get together.

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Speaker 2: Feel comfortable they are, and shout out to you.

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Speaker 4: We've be uncomfortable because I also exist in a space

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Speaker 4: where i'm you know, my chol muscle. A lot of

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00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 4: times I get around dude to a little bit more

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00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 4: feminine and they automatically go into a show and don't

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Speaker 4: know how to be around me, and I'm like.

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Speaker 2: How to be themselves?

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Speaker 1: They know how to be themselves? And you was like no, Beyonce,

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00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: and they came excreaing of me. How I gave me

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Speaker 1: a big com like damn this, You're just a human.

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Speaker 4: And that's that's why I think the movie is going

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00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 4: to resonate with people because our cast got together like

1172
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Speaker 4: humans who really love each other, like I know you

1173
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 4: can text Christina.

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Speaker 1: I still text Christina. Our families got together with Christina.

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm like honorary family member.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to find me a man. Hit pairs to

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Speaker 1: the story crazy same birthday they met, same birtha.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, crazy crazy crazy. Naylan, thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for sitting with us today. You have to tell everybody

1180
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Speaker 3: about all the things. So we know about ELF on Broadway.

1181
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 3: Give us like a timeline to find.

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Speaker 2: You all that good stuff.

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Speaker 5: First is Christmas Memories. That's the Christmas album that comes

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Speaker 5: out of November. First, our first opening, our preview is

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00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 5: for ELF November ninth.

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Speaker 1: We were from November ninth to.

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Speaker 5: January fourth, and then the meet Next Christmas comes out

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Speaker 5: November sixth.

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Speaker 1: Also, this next two weeks is a k.

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Speaker 2: Our team gonna be busy, man.

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Speaker 3: I love that. And don't forget to vote. Yes y'all, Ye, yes,

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Speaker 3: November fifth, Yes, counting on everybody? All right, all that

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Speaker 3: good stuff?

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: So first of all, if you want to be featured

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Speaker 3: as a listener letter, be sure to email us at

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Speaker 3: dead ass Advice at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's d E A d A S S A d

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Speaker 1: V I C e at gmail dot.

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Speaker 3: Com housekeeping out the way? All right, did you want

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00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 3: to go to a moment of truth? Did you have

1202
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: anything else you wanted to wrap up with? Or I

1203
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,479
Speaker 3: thought that was a nice little wrap up moment.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a nice rap. My moment of

1205
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 4: truth is man, words have power. M h words have power.

1206
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 4: You gotta believe in yourself. And also, don't be afraid.

1207
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Speaker 4: This is what I've learned from Kaitlyn say, don't be

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00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 4: afraid to praise yourself because you put the work in.

1209
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 4: It was God's vision. God gave it to you, put

1210
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Speaker 4: the work in. So baby, praise yourself.

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Speaker 2: That was cool. You kind of overlapped with my moment

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Speaker 2: of truth.

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00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 3: It was like, if you've seen it, if it was

1214
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 3: placed on your heart, if God gave you this purpose

1215
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 3: and you fully execute that and bring it to fruition,

1216
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 3: don't be surprised. Yeah, you are exactly where you were

1217
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 3: supposed to be. Come on, period, come on, round it

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Speaker 3: out for us now, baby, do you have a moment

1219
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Speaker 3: of truth based episode?

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Speaker 2: We spoke about so much today.

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Speaker 1: We did, you know?

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Speaker 5: I think I think my moment of truth is don't

1223
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 5: be afraid of the softness that community can bring you.

1224
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 5: I think fostering community can unlock different parts of you

1225
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 5: that will then bleed into other parts of your life.

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00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 5: Like I told my I once said that, you know,

1227
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Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of my life, and especially

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00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 5: with my journey and career, was out of survival, of

1229
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 5: being like this queer kid from Kansas and needing a

1230
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 5: way out and wanting to you know, be able to

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Speaker 5: support myself by myself. And then I reached a point

1232
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 5: mainly in that break, where I was like, if this

1233
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 5: is who I could be when I was trying to survive,

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Speaker 5: I can only imagine who I could be if I

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Speaker 5: started creating out of joy and out of love.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 5: I was like, so I've allowed myself to let the

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00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 5: softer moments come into me so that it un locks

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00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 5: even more.

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Speaker 1: Out of my spirit.

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Speaker 2: Spirit.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's deep, bro, you're a very deep and profound person.

1243
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 4: Twenty years old, man, that's twenty eight. Well you're twelve

1244
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 4: years my junior. Young.

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00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: You have a lot of life ahead of.

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Speaker 4: Your right, Please, Bro, thank you keep this this spirit

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Speaker 4: you got.

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00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 3: Yes, we don't invite people to our house. Chill, we don't.

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00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 1: You don't invite people. I don't invite people food.

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00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: At least I know when I come to see me

1251
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 3: see you in New York, I'll come with an empty stomach.

1252
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: Because he can cook. Because he can cook to you.

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00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: Don't just rape food. He cooked them.

1254
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Speaker 3: And be sure to find us on Patreon to see

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00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 3: exclusive dead Ass podcast content as well as exclusive Ellis

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Speaker 3: family content, and you can find this on social media

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Speaker 3: at dead Ass the podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kadeen Iam.

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Speaker 1: And I am Devouting.

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Speaker 4: your relationship. The race is to get to one hundred

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Speaker 1: Baby, Let's get it at the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: Baby tis the season. Follow La La Lah, deck the halls,

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. Where are you Christmas?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Here the corner. Listen.

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Speaker 3: I'm not backup singer for you, baby, because y'all know

1272
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: I've butchered a karaoke song or two in my day.

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Speaker 2: But we can celebrate a great voice when we have it.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 2: Where can people find you? Kalyn?

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Speaker 1: You can find me everywhere at the Kaylin Allen The

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Speaker 1: dead Ass.

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