Speaker 1: Uh, y'all want to talk about what y'all think about
Speaker 1: Matt and this possible battle.
Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 3: I thought man was a thug from the West Coast.
Speaker 3: Man he was, he was real, he was real, gentle man.
Speaker 4: She gave me the chills. I'll fight anybody, but I
Speaker 4: don't fucking animals. That's for goddamn sure.
Speaker 5: What up?
Speaker 1: World is the boy? Stack five? Welcome to Unplugged. Don't
Speaker 1: have my boy Matt Barnes here to day. As you
Speaker 1: know you're go on Instagram, you see dealing with possum business.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: I think he had to do well. We're gonna gonna
Speaker 1: talk about that a little later. We got my brother
Speaker 1: when our producers J. Macphilder in the day as he
Speaker 1: always do, ultimate teammate J.
Speaker 6: Mack. What's up my brother?
Speaker 2: Everything is happy to be here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, man. And we also got another one our brothers that's.
Speaker 1: Feeling in today, that stepping in assistant coach at Georgia Tech.
Speaker 1: Our brother Bonzi wells appreciate your time, bro, what's up?
Speaker 3: I'm vid my brother, I'm good. My brother, appreciate you
Speaker 3: having me on, man.
Speaker 1: It means a lot, we sir, Well let's dig in.
Speaker 1: You know, we want to welcome my brother to the show.
Speaker 1: He just wrapped up his first year as assistant George
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech coach under Damon Starle. Of my bro, how
Speaker 1: does it feel being at Georgia Tech being assistant coach,
Speaker 1: you know, being in D one, being in the D
Speaker 1: one realm now.
Speaker 5: Oh man, It's been an awesome experience. I really appreciate
Speaker 5: my brother, Damon giving me the call and elevating me
Speaker 5: and just he's just it's just being a great process
Speaker 5: that I've that I've learned, you know, coming from a
Speaker 5: Division two basketball family, it was just a it's just different.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: Damon is a hell of a coach, He's a hell
Speaker 5: of a person, He's a hell of a leader, and
Speaker 5: just the stuff that I'm learning that I didn't know
Speaker 5: is being priceless for me.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: At my Division two job, you know, I was kind
Speaker 5: of winging in a little bit, just kind of doing
Speaker 5: what I thought I knew about basketball. But Damon is
Speaker 5: a real teacher. He's teaching me about the game and
Speaker 5: teaching me about the future and the direction of the
Speaker 5: game is going into. So it's just been a great,
Speaker 5: great learning curve for me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been knowing you for a long time.
Speaker 1: We talk all the time, and you know, even when
Speaker 1: you was at the D two we talk a lot.
Speaker 6: And you've been in Atlanta for a minute, as you know,
Speaker 6: I live here.
Speaker 1: The job and the time that you spend with work
Speaker 1: is like you badly have any free time because we
Speaker 1: talk all the time.
Speaker 6: We're trying to get together.
Speaker 1: How how is that from being at D two Now
Speaker 1: we've been at D one with Georgia Tech.
Speaker 5: Well, it's been it's been a hell of an adjustment coaches,
Speaker 5: you know, coach Totals when we first came in and
Speaker 5: sent the whole coaching staff down because the whole coaching
Speaker 5: staff is new, we've never worked with each other. We've
Speaker 5: never worked with coach Damon, so everybody's just kind of
Speaker 5: trying to get to know each other. One of the
Speaker 5: first things he said is, you know, you know, no
Speaker 5: disrespect to y'all, but we got to say fuck our
Speaker 5: families right now. You know, we got to really lock
Speaker 5: in and building this program or and you're gonna miss
Speaker 5: some things. You're gonna miss the social life, You're gonna
Speaker 5: miss a lot of stuff. But the way we invest
Speaker 5: in these kids and invest in this program is gonna
Speaker 5: pay off in the long run. So everybody is totally
Speaker 5: bought in. You know, I get it. At first, it
Speaker 5: was a tough adjustment for me, just putting in twelve, thirteen,
Speaker 5: fourteen hour days, and you know, then, you know, you
Speaker 5: think about being in Atlanta, You're like, yeah, I'm gona
Speaker 5: turn up a little bit. But he's just a total
Speaker 5: different mindset. You know, we work and when we go home,
Speaker 5: you're still working, you know, because you're always on the clock.
Speaker 3: For these kids.
Speaker 5: So but it's been cool though, because we have a
Speaker 5: great staff, we have Georgia takers being great as a family,
Speaker 5: and these kids we got were just really good as kids.
Speaker 5: So it's just been a seamless transition for me. Like
Speaker 5: I said, I really appreciate Daemon, appreciate Damon as my brother.
Speaker 5: But you know, and I tell people like, you know,
Speaker 5: just you know, funny, I know Damon Stottlemyer, I don't know.
Speaker 3: This coach Stottamyer.
Speaker 5: You know, I know Damon, you know, so he so
Speaker 5: he's you know, and it's been great that he's that
Speaker 5: we got a separate type relationship where I respect him.
Speaker 5: You know as my friend, but as a coach and
Speaker 5: as a leader. You know, I just respect him. I
Speaker 5: had the utmost respect.
Speaker 3: For him, and you know, and I allow him, not
Speaker 3: allowing him.
Speaker 5: But he can handle me in a different way than
Speaker 5: he will handle me as my friend. You know, he
Speaker 5: can yell at me, he can do all that stuff
Speaker 5: to push me to get better.
Speaker 3: And I really appreciate him for that.
Speaker 2: Speaking the difference between Damon Stottlemyer, the player and the coach,
Speaker 2: what is it, Damon Stottlemyer, practice look like? I mean,
Speaker 2: we all from the nineties where we ran like five
Speaker 2: seventeens and yeah, you know what I mean, Dave wall
Speaker 2: sets and the stuff, helping to stuff before we even
Speaker 2: got an opportunity to touch the ball. What does it
Speaker 2: David Stottmyer's stema Stodtermyer bonzi Well, practice look like in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four with.
Speaker 5: These new kids, coach coach not playing with you. He's
Speaker 5: not playing with you at all, you know, And you
Speaker 5: know what, I what I love about coach, you know,
Speaker 5: like I said, he's teaching us a new.
Speaker 3: Style of basketball.
Speaker 5: He's basically you know, he's with the Boston he was
Speaker 5: with the Boston Celtics before it came up, and he's
Speaker 5: trying to we run the ball a lot of the
Speaker 5: Boston Celtics sets, and he's trying to have a program
Speaker 5: that translates for where these kids are trying to go to.
Speaker 5: We run a pro style offense, and the stuff that
Speaker 5: we do translates.
Speaker 3: You know. We have a lot of space and we
Speaker 3: give guys freedom to.
Speaker 5: Make plays, but you know, it's got to be within
Speaker 5: it's got to be within certain parameters. And you know,
Speaker 5: coach believes in skill development mentally and physically, you know,
Speaker 5: and not just for the players, for the coaches as well.
Speaker 5: You know, he wants us to be our best so
Speaker 5: we could be you know, you know personally as a coach,
Speaker 5: so we can be our best for them kids when
Speaker 5: we get on the court, and he wants everybody on
Speaker 5: the same page, one accord.
Speaker 3: And it's just been a great transition.
Speaker 5: And you know, we have some great coaches on our
Speaker 5: staff that's got great experience has done this. And for
Speaker 5: me to be a first year at a Power five,
Speaker 5: I've learned so much about the game and the game
Speaker 5: has changed, like you said, from what we was in
Speaker 5: the It's a whole different ball game, you know, and
Speaker 5: besides basketball, you know these kids, you know, you're bringing
Speaker 5: that n I L. And these kids are getting real money.
Speaker 5: So it's different how you got to handle these kids.
Speaker 5: It's different because it's such a cancel culture around here nowadays.
Speaker 5: So you got to be very very careful on how
Speaker 5: you address these kids as well, because you know, these
Speaker 5: kids can you know, get mad at you and burn
Speaker 5: your whole house down. So you got to be totally
Speaker 5: cognizant on how you how you move with them. But
Speaker 5: you know, if you move with love and they respect you,
Speaker 5: you'll be fine.
Speaker 2: One last thing, you coming from D two, what's the
Speaker 2: difference for kids out here a high school players that
Speaker 2: want to play basketball? What's the difference you've seen between
Speaker 2: a Division two and the Division one player? Is it
Speaker 2: athletic ability? Is it i Q i Q? What's the
Speaker 2: biggest difference you've notice that makes a guy D two
Speaker 2: player as opposed to a Division one player.
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny because you know, in my D
Speaker 5: two I was saying to myself, like, man, there's a
Speaker 5: couple of guys in the D two that could probably
Speaker 5: play you know, high level D one in the right situation.
Speaker 5: But these guys are bigger, they're faster, the i Q
Speaker 5: is off off the chart, and they're being coached by
Speaker 5: some real legendary coaches. I mean some really good coaches
Speaker 5: who knows this game and gets it and put these
Speaker 5: kids in the best situation will be successful.
Speaker 3: So on a D two level, you can. You can
Speaker 3: have a six seventh center, sixty five center and go.
Speaker 5: Out there and win some games that you pull that
Speaker 5: you can't pull that you can't pull that in the
Speaker 5: AC Yeah, you'll get ran through. So you know, you
Speaker 5: got you know, size obviously, but i Q understanding the game,
Speaker 5: like you got to really understand the game.
Speaker 3: And it's you know, I tell our guys all the time.
Speaker 5: One of the simple players that that a lot of
Speaker 5: kids can't do is come off a screen and roll
Speaker 5: and make a simple pocket pass. And if people don't understand,
Speaker 5: if you can make that pocket pass consistently, you'll mess
Speaker 5: around and make a whole lot of fucking money, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Especially at this level, because it's
Speaker 5: just making plays for other people. And it's like I said,
Speaker 5: we run a spaced offense, so if you can hit
Speaker 5: those pocket passes, get that ball to the middle, make
Speaker 5: the defense collapse and make the white reads. You know,
Speaker 5: you can really, really, really be good in this game.
Speaker 1: Compare the contrast between today's basketball in the nineties when
Speaker 1: you was in college.
Speaker 6: You know, with this transfer a port on this nil stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, I know, I know, it's making it a
Speaker 1: lot harder and making it more difficult to even build
Speaker 1: programs or to even.
Speaker 6: Get guys if you ain't just throwing the bag at them.
Speaker 2: Keep guys.
Speaker 3: It's definitely tough.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: We you know, you didn't get to go to college
Speaker 3: s tax. So I'm not talking to you. I'm talking.
Speaker 5: I'm talking to but glad. You know what it was like, man,
Speaker 5: you know, you go to college. You know you got
Speaker 5: a four year commitment mentally, like you know, you staying
Speaker 5: with your Stuff'm gonna be here four years. Transfer wasn't
Speaker 5: an option because you had If you did transfer, you
Speaker 5: had to sit out of here. Yeah, so, you know, guys,
Speaker 5: wasn't even thinking that, And it was more like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I can bring a guy in as a freshman it's
Speaker 5: probably not ready, and I can develop him and kind
Speaker 5: of kind of kind of you know, moving alone for
Speaker 5: a sophomore maybe junior year at the latest.
Speaker 3: But now you got to bring in kids that's ready
Speaker 3: to hoop now, because if not, you would lose them
Speaker 3: at the end.
Speaker 5: Of the year, because you could you could just go
Speaker 5: anywhere at any time. These kids are not happy with
Speaker 5: their plan time, they're not happy with the coaches and thing.
Speaker 5: It's not happy period. They have all the levers to
Speaker 5: be able to go move around how they want to.
Speaker 5: And that's kind of a gift in the purse. And
Speaker 5: then also when you're getting this nil money, you know,
Speaker 5: then this me and this is my first year kind
Speaker 5: of being around it, I just question, like, if you're
Speaker 5: getting one.
Speaker 3: Hundred thousand, two hundred thousand.
Speaker 5: Whatever money these kids are getting, is the hunger still there?
Speaker 5: And that's what I'm just trying to learn about some
Speaker 5: of these kids. I just kind of I talked to them.
Speaker 5: I'll be like, fel like, I know you're getting this
Speaker 5: all this bag and all this stuff, but do you
Speaker 5: still love this shit?
Speaker 3: Like do you really love it? You know?
Speaker 5: Because when we played, we had an end goal like, Okay, man,
Speaker 5: if I'm just really grind, I can get to that
Speaker 5: prize and at the end of the rainbow, and these
Speaker 5: guys are you know, they're getting into it early, Like
Speaker 5: they got money coming in, Like there's some freshmens that's
Speaker 5: coming in making more than the coaching staff. So you know,
Speaker 5: it's so crazy. Yeah, are so crazy. So you know
Speaker 5: you got to just question that hunger. But a lot
Speaker 5: of these kids, especially our kids, these kids have been great.
Speaker 5: I haven't seen really no, No, guys, that's just kind
Speaker 5: of like slacking a little bit and kind of wrestling
Speaker 5: on a little money they got. You know, we always
Speaker 5: try to emphasize that this is just this is just
Speaker 5: a taste of the type of money that you can make. Yeah,
Speaker 5: this is just the beginning. But you got to really
Speaker 5: lock in. You got to trust us. You got to
Speaker 5: trust our experience. And you know, if you listen and
Speaker 5: you keep adding to your game and keep building, sky's
Speaker 5: the limit for you, especially dealing with us because you know,
Speaker 5: me and Damon and the rest of the coaches that
Speaker 5: we're so connected in this game in terms of where
Speaker 5: you're trying to get to. You know, there's no other
Speaker 5: spot that the kids should be trying to go to
Speaker 5: it if they want that especially run, like I said,
Speaker 5: a pro style offense, and we do ship around here.
Speaker 5: That translates into being a pro.
Speaker 6: Yep, that's why I'm trying to get my son there. Yes, sir, yes, sir,
Speaker 6: The ACC looks good right now.
Speaker 1: Bro, you got for ACC teams in the sweet sixteen. Dude, Clemson,
Speaker 1: UNC and NC State, n C State. Who you think
Speaker 1: got the best shot?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Man, that's that's that's interesting. You know I was as
Speaker 5: listen you say that. List You know, we beat three
Speaker 5: out of those four teams just which was good for us.
Speaker 5: Which was good for us. We didn't you know, we
Speaker 5: had an under five hundred season. But man, we made
Speaker 5: some strides and we want some big games, and you know,
Speaker 5: to be able to compete with the big boys, especially
Speaker 5: you know, them going to the sweet sixteen, you know,
Speaker 5: makes us poke our chest out a little bit to
Speaker 5: let us know that we got.
Speaker 3: Something to build off of. But you know that, you know, you.
Speaker 5: Know, obviously Duke and Carolina is going to be, you know,
Speaker 5: always there. But my sleeper team. You know, I love
Speaker 5: n C State, But Clemson for us was probably.
Speaker 3: The toughest team because they have some bigs. They have PJ.
Speaker 5: Hall, and they got this one kid named Shefflin. He
Speaker 5: about six eight. But man, this kid gets every rebound.
Speaker 5: He's such a bully and he said so aggressive. He
Speaker 5: can pick and pop, you know, and they got some
Speaker 5: really good guards and Chase Hunter and Gerard he's a
Speaker 5: three point shooter. So Clemson is my my sleeper team,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, because you don't sleep on
Speaker 5: Duke in North Carolina. You always expect him to be there, right,
Speaker 5: But but I think Clemson is going to be there,
Speaker 5: and I'm really proud North Carolina State. You know, people
Speaker 5: don't understand they had to win five games in five
Speaker 5: days to win the ACC Championship.
Speaker 3: They've done. They've done that. Then they wont two games.
Speaker 5: In three and four nights, so they probably don't want
Speaker 5: seven games and nine nights. So hats off of those guys.
Speaker 5: You just hope they can keep the energy level up
Speaker 5: and keep that going.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: Now they got a couple of days off, but it's
Speaker 5: been amazing what they've been doing.
Speaker 2: You and c They got a twenty four and a
Speaker 2: twenty five year old in the starting lineup, Bondzi, Is
Speaker 2: this the future of college basketball? Is this a problem?
Speaker 2: And I don't know, you're been there. Are we going
Speaker 2: to see in comparison the thunder have the same average
Speaker 2: and they're starting five in the league. You know, just
Speaker 2: for comparison in some context, is this the future of
Speaker 2: college basketball? Because of nil and because of the trajectory
Speaker 2: of where the league is tending to going, you know,
Speaker 2: going on the younger inside of obviously if okay, see
Speaker 2: is happened since success.
Speaker 5: Well, I think it might come back a little bit
Speaker 5: in age. I think that the age group of the
Speaker 5: kids we're seeing now, some of the residual of the
Speaker 5: kids from the COVID year that got that COVID year
Speaker 5: today that you know a lot of kids are exercising
Speaker 5: that fifth year and someone might even have a Yeah.
Speaker 5: So that's why, especially if they're paying you know, no
Speaker 5: matter of if you're paying them staying and that's what
Speaker 5: the kids, you know, they paying them kids good, So
Speaker 5: you know, why not, especially if it's not a guarantee
Speaker 5: that you're going to make it to that next level
Speaker 5: and make that bad. But I think, you know, moving forward,
Speaker 5: I think you know, you got to have a good mixture.
Speaker 5: You got to have some young boys, but you got
Speaker 5: to have some vents to some older guys, you know.
Speaker 5: Twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, that's been there to
Speaker 5: kind of balance each other out, because it's a lot
Speaker 5: to ask these kids who've never played at this high
Speaker 5: level to come out there and be successful at this
Speaker 5: high level against you know, everybody in the ACC's top
Speaker 5: hundred player, you know McDonald Loall America and all that
Speaker 5: type of stuff. That these kids come in with these
Speaker 5: accolades and everybody's done that. So it's a lot to
Speaker 5: ask these kids to come in and dominate grown men
Speaker 5: and people who really been around who understands this. So
Speaker 5: you know, you want to have a good balance, and
Speaker 5: you know, you look at a team like, no disrespect
Speaker 5: to Kentucky, but Kentucky got a lot of young boys,
Speaker 5: so they can play. But when it comes down to it,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, it's tough to be the vet.
Speaker 5: You know, it's tough to be veteran players, guys who've
Speaker 5: been there, done that to understand what this is. And
Speaker 5: if you have a good mix, I think that's kind
Speaker 5: of the fumble of guys gonna go by and get
Speaker 5: you three or four young boys that's really nice, and
Speaker 5: then you know, get you three or four older guys
Speaker 5: and just try to mix them and hopefully they jail together,
Speaker 5: So I know that's that's probably what we're trying to
Speaker 5: do at Georgia Tech is trying to, you know, bring
Speaker 5: in some older.
Speaker 3: Guys that can really help our young guys be better,
Speaker 3: possibly be.
Speaker 2: That's fair because that's not like ignoring the situation. It's
Speaker 2: not like, you know what I mean, we can't it's
Speaker 2: not you know, you can't ignore that acting like it's
Speaker 2: not going on, because like last we can see there
Speaker 2: are twenty five and twenty six year old players. So
Speaker 2: I mean, if you can keep a balance, that's up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: Before we go on to the NBA, shout out to the
Speaker 1: games you're missing right now. I was watching a little bit,
Speaker 1: but Hidalgo's playing right now with not your Dame Page.
Speaker 6: Buckets is up next, then CAITLINN. Clark.
Speaker 1: Then you got Juju to finish the day off. So
Speaker 1: shout out to the girls right now. That's all I've
Speaker 1: been watching. They balling right now. A lot of people
Speaker 1: been talking about the next generation. Let's reflect back on
Speaker 1: every on the generations and the stars and their legacies.
Speaker 1: Let's do Lebron First. Lebron got full titles. I want
Speaker 1: your opinion, Bonzi and j Man. Lebron got four titles
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, twenty sixteen and twenty twenty as
Speaker 1: an all time score of all time. He got so
Speaker 1: many records that he didn'e broke. He's still playing at
Speaker 1: a high level. Where would you have him at the
Speaker 1: top of all time?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 6: I mean?
Speaker 3: Bron?
Speaker 5: You know, Bron is a special player. He's one of
Speaker 5: my favorite players ever played. I really love watching him.
Speaker 5: I like how he moved in real life.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: He's a big enough hope for guys who come in
Speaker 5: with all that pressure and you can sustain it throughout
Speaker 5: your career. And I get caught up in nothing, So
Speaker 5: hats off Lebron. And if I had to rank him
Speaker 5: in my top it almost goes out. I hear this
Speaker 5: conversation all the time, and you know you got I
Speaker 5: got Jordan Kobe being Bron. So it was one A,
Speaker 5: one B and one C to me, because you know,
Speaker 5: you know you can't go wrong with either one of
Speaker 5: those three. And no disrespectful to the rest of the
Speaker 5: players who played the game, because I really respect them,
Speaker 5: But you talk about in my opinion, I think Bron
Speaker 5: is he's a one S guy because I can't put
Speaker 5: him ahead of Kobe and Mike because those guys.
Speaker 3: On my side six five.
Speaker 5: Sixty six and they didn't really have no no advantage,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying on the court other than
Speaker 5: skill set. You know, bron is a big six nine,
Speaker 5: two fifty, so he can sometimes over the power of
Speaker 5: the game and it's scoring those ways. But the skill
Speaker 5: set of Mike and Kobe is just in my opinion, unmatched.
Speaker 2: What you think, J Mac, I mean, you got some
Speaker 2: other people on those lists. You got Steph for four titles,
Speaker 2: you know, twenty fifteen, seventeen, eighteen, twenty two, Kawhi had
Speaker 2: two titles. Kevin Durant got two titles. But I'm gonna
Speaker 2: start a petition today since we're talking about we start
Speaker 2: to talking about Eras and Stack. You gonna field this
Speaker 2: when you might feel it no freaky.
Speaker 6: I want to. I want to.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about Tim Duncan. You don't talk
Speaker 2: about Tim Duncan eras. I feel like Tim Duncan and
Speaker 2: he should be in in there twice because he ended
Speaker 2: a lot of people didn't win championships because of Tim
Speaker 2: Duncan and he did it twice and with a ten
Speaker 2: year gap. So if we're gonna be talking about eras
Speaker 2: and lists, you know what I mean, I like to
Speaker 2: do a petition where we not only acknowledge the Tim
Speaker 2: Duncan era, but I also like to put a petition
Speaker 2: out there too. But he should have two different eras
Speaker 2: because he did it in a ten years and a
Speaker 2: ten year gap, and Tim.
Speaker 5: Has four or five we got five, we got five five, five.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I'm gonna put him up there.
Speaker 2: But I'm with Bonzie. I love Lebron's body of work,
Speaker 2: Kobe Jordan, you know what I mean. We acknowledged Kawhi's
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Kawhi had a hell of
Speaker 2: it run if it wasn't for injuries. You know, at
Speaker 2: one point he was tracking towards Mike Finals, MVP, Defensive
Speaker 2: Player of the Year, you know what I mean, All
Speaker 2: Star whatever, you know, going to the finals for a
Speaker 2: couple of years. So Kawhi was up there. You got
Speaker 2: to put kd up there because runs with the with
Speaker 2: the Warriors, and he's you know, for the new school,
Speaker 2: for the newer generation. But I'm gonna stick with that.
Speaker 2: Timmy petition.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm I'm with you totally on that.
Speaker 1: I mean, after you, after you go from Jordan Kobe Lebron.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a it's a better player. They
Speaker 1: had more skill, that was more talented. They had a
Speaker 1: better career than Tim duncan Bro. I just don't I
Speaker 1: don't see it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tim was a monster. It's just Tim's game was
Speaker 5: just so no disrespect to him. He had like a
Speaker 5: basic game, like he didn't do nothing like with.
Speaker 3: Flair to it.
Speaker 6: You know, it wasn't sexy at all.
Speaker 5: It wasn't sexy. So everybody wants to be sexy in
Speaker 5: this game. They want to like Tim just went and
Speaker 5: got his job done. He put that hard head on
Speaker 5: his job, went home, didn't say a word. And people
Speaker 5: don't really like you know, people who they don't really
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 3: But guys like us.
Speaker 5: Who played the game, you really appreciated the people who
Speaker 5: like yourself stacked played with him and played against him.
Speaker 5: You know how tough it was to stop that basic
Speaker 5: ship like you couldn't he gonna jabs, She's gonna open
Speaker 5: up jabs Stephanie Bank shot.
Speaker 3: He's gonna he's gonna post you up.
Speaker 5: Hooked, but just great passer, great team guy anchor. You know,
Speaker 5: you go through the hole, you're gonna meet Timmy there,
Speaker 5: they're gonna purce you.
Speaker 3: Baseline. Tim is always there.
Speaker 5: So Tim the ship he did translated for the people
Speaker 5: who really know basketball. But for the people who's out
Speaker 5: there who just want to be letting it looks sweet
Speaker 5: at the LA fitness and all that stuff, and they're
Speaker 5: not gonna be like, oh, Tim Duncan, I'm doing this,
Speaker 5: Tim Duncan, you know they you're not.
Speaker 3: You're not hearing that.
Speaker 5: So but but hat talk to Tim Duncan's first teams
Speaker 5: because I know in ninety nine they cost us a
Speaker 5: championship for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and that yet the Laker was about to
Speaker 1: win four after after they had already won three. Tim
Speaker 1: shut that down by damn that by himself. Man, I
Speaker 1: seen him do some great things. And when then when
Speaker 1: they when the coach tell you take what the game
Speaker 1: give you. He is the mascot of that for sure.
Speaker 1: But check this out, j Max, if I if I
Speaker 1: if I had, if I gave you these four brank
Speaker 1: these four lebron steph KD Kawhi, who.
Speaker 2: That's filthy? While y'all gonna put you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: and it's changed later on by the time you can see.
Speaker 2: By the time y'all see this, I might have switched
Speaker 2: this once or twice, but right now I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. Man, I'm I'm I'm with Bonzie. I'm
Speaker 2: a Lebron guy. I tend to I tend to lead
Speaker 2: to to the Lebron body of work. Not Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go Lebron Steph and I gotta go Kawhi k
Speaker 2: D because Kawhi did it without Stephan Clay, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. At the end of the day, he
Speaker 2: had a hell of a run up in there in Toronto,
Speaker 2: one of the ones where he was like the main
Speaker 2: focal guy without two other key big figure. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: what I got. Lebron, Steph, Kawhi, KD.
Speaker 5: Who you got, Oh man, I'm similar to to j Max.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Lebron Steph. But I'm gonna move KD
Speaker 5: on top of Kawhi. I mean, and I want to
Speaker 5: move KD higher because KD is you know, he's one
Speaker 5: of my favorite players.
Speaker 2: In the league.
Speaker 5: He's so unstoppable. So on the stop point, and I
Speaker 5: think KD is really underappreciated as well. You know, people
Speaker 5: talk about his two titles and he ain't got him
Speaker 5: with Steph and all that shit. But if you look
Speaker 5: at his body at work, man, this man is averaged
Speaker 5: twenty six twenty.
Speaker 3: Seven for how many years in a row? Fifteen sixteen
Speaker 3: years straight?
Speaker 5: Like people, people don't understand how tough that is to
Speaker 5: stay consistent. Difficult, you know, you know, through injuries and
Speaker 5: all that stuff, you know, And I no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5: Kawhi has injury from injuries as well. But KD is
Speaker 5: just a he's a cheap cold because you can't affect
Speaker 5: the shot. He's legit seven foot he has. He has
Speaker 5: a filthy, filthy soft jump shot, and he knows how
Speaker 5: to get to a spot better than anybody I've ever
Speaker 5: seen in the game other than maybe Chris Paul and
Speaker 5: somebody just getting to their.
Speaker 3: Spot and know what it is.
Speaker 5: So I mean, I would go, like I said, Lebron, Steph, KD,
Speaker 5: and uh Kawhi last, And there's no disrespect to any
Speaker 5: of those guys.
Speaker 2: No, there isn't. Like I said, your answer could change,
Speaker 2: and it's no disrespect to anybody because this is a
Speaker 2: great company to be talking in interchange. And you know,
Speaker 2: regardless of.
Speaker 3: The order, Yeah, what about you stack? What's your them?
Speaker 6: A good question? Definitely, the King is first.
Speaker 1: Steph's Steph body of work is hard to deny in
Speaker 1: this group, but I would still go KD second.
Speaker 6: But just for he's been doing.
Speaker 1: He's average twenty five points or more every year since
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine.
Speaker 6: And and you think about where he is on the
Speaker 6: scoring list.
Speaker 1: Just imagine if he didn't have those two years of
Speaker 1: injury where he missed all that time. That's that's two thousand,
Speaker 1: that's four thousand and five thousand more points, so and
Speaker 1: and and and he and he already passing up shocking
Speaker 1: everybody else right now, So I put KD second. Then
Speaker 1: I'll go Steph just up the respect of being the
Speaker 1: best shooter ever and the four championships, the leading that team,
Speaker 1: making that team of dynasty, and uh, of course Kawai
Speaker 1: Kuai did some great things. I mean that year, the
Speaker 1: two year run he had, but the two finals, MVP,
Speaker 1: two championships like that shit was special. So I go
Speaker 1: lebron KD, Steph, Kawhi.
Speaker 2: And there's no wrong, there's no wrong, just here by
Speaker 2: the way, you know, choose your own adventure and how
Speaker 2: you like it type thing.
Speaker 1: Right, feel good story of the year. We got three outs.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about them. Rockets email you Doka thirty eight
Speaker 1: games under five hundred last year. This year they're up there,
Speaker 1: five hundred, bottom three defense last year, this year they
Speaker 1: are top seven. You also got Jamal Mose that Orlando
Speaker 1: Magic fourteen games under five hundred last year, thirteen games
Speaker 1: over five hundred this year. Pylo ban Caro is having
Speaker 1: a breakout season. I think he should be talking about more.
Speaker 1: And they're the top five team in the East right now,
Speaker 1: so you can't be surprised with what they're doing. Also,
Speaker 1: the Pelicans with Willie Green on pace to fifty wins
Speaker 1: this year, the best season since Chris Paul been there.
Speaker 1: And that's saying a lot with everything they was dealing
Speaker 1: with with zign at the beginning of the year. Which
Speaker 1: team or which situation y'all is y'all feel good story
Speaker 1: of the year so far?
Speaker 3: I mean respect to all three of them.
Speaker 5: I mean, those guys are doing a hell of a job.
Speaker 5: I'm just so proud of them from what they're doing.
Speaker 5: And you know, the expectations, you know, especially for Layby Orlando.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, it wasn't high, but you
Speaker 5: know you're hoping for the best. But you know, my
Speaker 5: I gotta give mine to May. You know, he made
Speaker 5: I was my rookies. You know, really, you know, that's
Speaker 5: my guy right there. I'm just so proud of him
Speaker 5: because he went through uh in Boston and to be
Speaker 5: able to bounce back and come to a Rockets team
Speaker 5: that was you know, and I played for the Rockets,
Speaker 5: and I know how proud of a franchise that is.
Speaker 5: To go to that franchise when they're playing some of
Speaker 5: the worst basketball in the league over the last couple
Speaker 5: of years, to be able to turn them around, I
Speaker 5: think the crazy as hell, crazy as hell I'm not
Speaker 5: even gonna address that, which I ain't gonna dress.
Speaker 3: That's the ship.
Speaker 5: But uh, but but but now, but but though, because
Speaker 5: you know, you go come from Boston, Boston had a
Speaker 5: whip over there.
Speaker 3: They was winning all.
Speaker 5: Those games and all that good stuff. And again, you know,
Speaker 5: you you know, people like, Okay, maybe it's the team.
Speaker 5: Can he really coach?
Speaker 3: For real?
Speaker 5: Now you come to a Rockets team and you know,
Speaker 5: and you turn the whole vibe around around there. Now
Speaker 5: they're confident going in every game. You know that to Buzzi, Yeah,
Speaker 5: gave him purpose, gave gave my identity and that's what
Speaker 5: it's all about.
Speaker 3: That's what you want me on, head coach.
Speaker 5: They got somebody that can believe in Now, they got
Speaker 5: somebody that know they got their back. Will you know
Speaker 5: he got into it with Lebron, So if that didn't
Speaker 5: really hype the team up, that my coach going at
Speaker 5: the top player in the league. If that don't make
Speaker 5: you want to run through a brick wall for a
Speaker 5: guy like that, I don't know what will. So I
Speaker 5: gotta give it to make because what he's doing with
Speaker 5: the Rockets is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: All three of these guys came into some more unstable
Speaker 2: situations for black head coaches. You know that that can
Speaker 2: be a death sentence, you know, excuse the term for
Speaker 2: you know, for lack of a better term. You know,
Speaker 2: it's not the best situation to be put up in
Speaker 2: the success And what I've seen is they brought the
Speaker 2: stability to situations. You know, shout out to all three,
Speaker 2: Like Bonzi said, Uh, I'm gonna go with Jay Mos
Speaker 2: j Mos is my dog, you know, me and San
Speaker 2: Diego guy.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: The way he's been able to consistently, you know, manage
Speaker 2: Polo to your point stack, He's been consistently the best
Speaker 2: player on you know, on that team, you know, as
Speaker 2: his rookie campaign moving into you know, this year and
Speaker 2: the year is coming up, Suggs had a breakout year.
Speaker 2: He's first team All Defense. So he's using the assets
Speaker 2: and the picks that they got. He's only they're managing
Speaker 2: to get better. They're staying on the court. Their availability
Speaker 2: is up there, and I mean from fourteen games under
Speaker 2: five hundred to thirteen games over to five hundred this year.
Speaker 2: Big reason why he got a four year extension. I've
Speaker 2: talked to the players during summer league. They love j Mos,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: as a as a man off the court and as
Speaker 2: a coach. So I'm gonna give my nod to j
Speaker 2: Moo's not not that it's any not you know, disrespect
Speaker 2: to anybody. I'm not gonna keep saying that, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick Ja Meos in this feel good story
Speaker 2: the year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we ain't doing that, you know, we don't do that.
Speaker 6: Here we go.
Speaker 1: We got love to all of but all these three
Speaker 1: of these brothers man, all three black coaches who are
Speaker 1: doing great. Man, I salute all of them, but we
Speaker 1: have to pick one. I'm going with Willie Green.
Speaker 6: Con citering. Uh, like you say, Jay mag I got
Speaker 6: a relationship with Willie Green.
Speaker 1: But also knowing that everything they went through at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the season, with not knowing what was what players,
Speaker 1: Zion's gonna be, what's he gonna be healthy? Uh, the organization,
Speaker 1: the organization was really dependent on him, And that's a
Speaker 1: lot of fire to be up on the as a
Speaker 1: young coach. You know what I'm saying. We're trying to
Speaker 1: get your players to all buy in and be on
Speaker 1: the same page. And Willie Green is a sharp guy
Speaker 1: and he was willing to do that. So where they
Speaker 1: are right now, I'm so happy for him to get
Speaker 1: them having the best the best record, uh, they've ever
Speaker 1: had in the organizations. As Chris Parr, that says a
Speaker 1: lot considering everything he went through at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 6: Detroit, Yes, sir, Next, we.
Speaker 1: Got the Doctor dre the Diggie Diggie doc. Y'all, doctor
Speaker 1: doctor Drake Starr and Villain. We saw our guys DJ
Speaker 1: Quick and Big Boy there. I mean, Doctor Dre should
Speaker 1: have been had a star. Uh, this is this is
Speaker 1: nothing that's surprising to nobody here. He is the goat
Speaker 1: when it comes to hip hop. He is the goat
Speaker 1: when it comes to production and having your music sounding
Speaker 1: the best it could possibly sound.
Speaker 6: Uh. He is the goat of.
Speaker 1: Uh making money outside of rapping, marketing himself and marketing
Speaker 1: other rappers and building other rappers, making them stars. From
Speaker 1: Eminem to fifty cent Dre is just to go all
Speaker 1: the way around. So him getting this star was definitely
Speaker 1: something that we all knew was coming. But we definitely
Speaker 1: want to congratulate him on unplugged. Definitely earned not giving.
Speaker 2: West West West West West West.
Speaker 1: Doctor Dre said something that's interesting, y'all want I want
Speaker 1: to see your pain on this. He said that I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone who is rapping can touch Eminem on
Speaker 1: the microphone.
Speaker 6: WHI ch'all think about that?
Speaker 5: Oh man, I'm not into the music like you are,
Speaker 5: but I'm a Midwest guy. You know, I gotta respect
Speaker 5: what Eminem does. But I think we talked about it
Speaker 5: off camera. I've never heard too many people. And I
Speaker 5: know my boy Mike Miller is gonna be mad at
Speaker 5: me because he's a huge Emineman. My boy Mike.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Mike Miller.
Speaker 5: But uh, I never heard nobody in my neighborhood really
Speaker 5: really really bumping you know, Eminem like that.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: But you know, I respect his music. I respect his
Speaker 5: flow if you really listen to it. But I don't
Speaker 5: know if I can co sign with Doctor Dre in
Speaker 5: terms of that. But I'm a novice compared to him,
Speaker 5: so you know, my opinion don't really matter. But I
Speaker 5: like some other rappers on top of him. But before
Speaker 5: I would take Eminem as number one.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna echo what Bonzie said. I am a novice,
Speaker 2: you know. No, I am no along on the level
Speaker 2: of Eminem or Doctor Dre. But you know, normally I'm
Speaker 2: super I'm a California hollock. I would de side just
Speaker 2: to be annoying the West Coast, especially with y'all two
Speaker 2: on here, considering considering what I just had to deal
Speaker 2: with in the intro. But I'm a I'm a I'm
Speaker 2: agree with you. I agree with Bonzie. You know it
Speaker 2: doesn't you know, sometimes it comes up. I hear a
Speaker 2: song when it's when you're lifting weights, or it's on
Speaker 2: your iPod or it shuffles in you're like, you know,
Speaker 2: but it's not Eminem isn't an artist that I go
Speaker 2: looking for. And I love Eminem at the same time
Speaker 2: of the day. But it's just somebody that comes up
Speaker 2: on it. Don't get no play at my ride.
Speaker 1: Yeah and that and that ain't no distant because not
Speaker 1: at all. I respect his grind. You know where he
Speaker 1: come from, how he came up to make himself who
Speaker 1: he is today. I respect all that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And he can throw He is one of
Speaker 1: the top m seeds, you know, just just just to
Speaker 1: us and our culture, you know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: just it's hard to put him above somebody that you've
Speaker 1: been listening to every day of your life.
Speaker 6: It's hard to put him.
Speaker 1: It's hard to put him above somebody who from your neighborhood,
Speaker 1: who you've seen come up, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and now one of the biggest rappers in the world.
Speaker 1: So it's hard. But respect to him, respect to doctor Dre.
Speaker 1: When they speak, we always take the up hearing the consideration. Uh,
Speaker 1: y'all want to talk about what y'all think about Madden
Speaker 1: this possible battle.
Speaker 4: He got a motherfucker in the house. I know what
Speaker 4: Bro's trying to do. Came in the old house and
Speaker 4: he's here thugging it.
Speaker 2: Sure, I think he won. I think everybody he won.
Speaker 2: The possum one the possum. We got to go go
Speaker 2: home and get back to his family, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. It wasn't nothing that he was out there,
Speaker 2: probably trying to get something to drag back. Wasn't nothing
Speaker 2: out there. He got to go home. He might have
Speaker 2: a concussion, he might have a little concussion, but you know,
Speaker 2: he lived to fight another day.
Speaker 5: I expected more out of Man, especially, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, after some of the altercations Matt being in.
Speaker 3: I thought man was a thug on the West coast.
Speaker 5: Man he was, He was real, He was real, gentle man.
Speaker 3: He was gentle man. I saw hands right there like
Speaker 3: he ain't got no.
Speaker 5: He ain't got no scabs on his hand, ain't got
Speaker 5: no calous.
Speaker 6: Man was just some mother big We did none of
Speaker 6: that man.
Speaker 3: None of that nice.
Speaker 5: And and he did pop him up side of the
Speaker 5: head a couple of times, but it was it was
Speaker 5: an underhand and throw get.
Speaker 6: The fun out of here.
Speaker 4: Got to put a pitching wedge up his ass. Pause
Speaker 4: this nigga's ready for more. I don't want no problems.
Speaker 4: You don't want no problems. Let's both go home to
Speaker 4: our families. Should spraying with raid? Were doing Helmie, Here
Speaker 4: we go, we're doing Bro.
Speaker 3: There we go, There we go.
Speaker 4: This way, this way, no bitch, not that way.
Speaker 6: God damn it. Whoever said water? Now he's on the run.
Speaker 3: Ain't that a bitch?
Speaker 2: He needed and he needed, he needed some good media.
Speaker 6: I can't afford out here. You don't need. He don't need.
Speaker 2: Pete on him too.
Speaker 4: If I light up a joint and just get him high,
Speaker 4: he'll go to sleep and I can pull him my
Speaker 4: bistre need the old house.
Speaker 6: Hey, go ahead, come on now, break break break, there
Speaker 6: we go. He's out of here. Go Bro, go to freedom.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good for you, Bro, and the peacefully go back
Speaker 4: to the family that she gave me the chills. I'll
Speaker 4: fight anybody, but I don't fucking animals. That's for goddamn sure.
Speaker 1: And you know what way the multitask my nigger. I
Speaker 1: think that's what's getting lost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, under pressure with the camera and oh man.
Speaker 6: That was awesome.
Speaker 3: He narrated the whole thing. I felt like I was
Speaker 3: involved in a great job. You might get award for that.
Speaker 6: You can direct and act at the same time. My brother,
Speaker 6: you on your way.
Speaker 2: We on the way man.
Speaker 6: Shout out to my bro. You definitely was missed today.
Speaker 1: Man, Matt, hope you're taking care of your possums and
Speaker 1: all of the crib bon.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming on the show and taking some
Speaker 1: time after your business schedule. Man, you know we got
Speaker 1: love for you. Congratulations on the job and help me
Speaker 1: get my son over that nigga. You know, Jay Mac,
Speaker 1: you always feel in and do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying with me and Matt down
Speaker 1: the ultimate teammate brought. I love you to death. Thank
Speaker 1: you for tuning in to Unplugged. We'll see y'all next Monday.