1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: with i R Radio. It's another episode of the Almost 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: Famous podcast. We're here to break down another episode of 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: Katie Thurston's season with the one and only, the pregnant 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: and beautiful and glowing Ashley I Connettie. Ben really needs 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: to stop doing this, guys. It's like kind of cruel. 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: Why you are no, I'm smelly. I can't smell you. 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm I'm so far away from you right now. I'm 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: so pimply like, oh my god. Like it was almost 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: as if throughout the week I developed a rash. That's 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: how bad. My forehead is broken out. And my forehead 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: never breaks out anyway. You should be counting your lucky 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: stars for not being able to smell me right now. Um, Ben, 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: let's talk about um well, well, well let's talk about 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: you for a second, because we did a whole episode 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: talking about me. We have a party coming up. It's 17 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: a virtual event in Napa to celebrate your engagement, which 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: has been you know, you've been engaged for a little bit, Um, 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: but we're doing an official I Heart engagement party and 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: it's going to be on July from five to six, 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: specific time, and you guys can get tickets for it 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: at looped live dot com and it's l O p 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: e d live dot com. Um, and I'm going to 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: be on the podcast. Jared's gonna be on the podcast, 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: Nick Dean, Kaylin Wells. We're all toastined to Ben and 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: Jess and the party will be benefiting Humanity and Hope United, 27 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: that foundation that Ben works very closely with. UM, so 28 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: we're excited to do that. But then, UM, what part 29 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: are you a part of engagement? Are you in now? 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: Because last time we talked about your wedding planning, you 31 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: were like just as in charge of wedding planning and 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: I have picked out nothing. So how is it now? 33 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm more involved than I was back then. Like now 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: it's kind of getting to like crunch time, so it's 35 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: groomsmen suits, and like I was in I'm kind of 36 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: semi in charge of like the liquor sponsor or liquor. 37 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: I guess finding that if I can find a sponsor, 38 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: that'd be great. Um, and uh, coordination of the like 39 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: rehearsal and and like, so my involvement has increased. Here 40 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: is the phase of engagement. I'm just really excited to 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: marry her, and I really I do think I'm gonna 42 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: miss the engagement side of this because it feels exciting. 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: Everybody is like like super congratulatory towards it. Um. You know, 44 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: not that that will change when you get married, but 45 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: like obviously, like it does change the dynamic of how 46 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: people like celebrate you. Like it's not like you've been 47 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: married for five years and people are just walking in 48 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: the street like, oh cool, you're married. It's like changes 49 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: a bit um. But I'm just I'm I'm very at peace. 50 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm just like vary at peace now and more just 51 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: ready to get it going because I do feel like 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: the details of this have been more and I expected 53 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: for everybody involved, from my mom to her mom to Jess. 54 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: It's just it's so the wedding is gonna be great, 55 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: and I am really excited for it. You guys have 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: a wedding planner, right, We do have a wedding planner um, 57 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: and that's been really helpful, I think, from especially on 58 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: like the Jess and her mom's side, I think just 59 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: keeping things organized and keeping things moving and helping connect 60 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: the pieces and the dots, I think, especially because it 61 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: is a bigger wedding and uh, and I'm very thankful 62 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: for that, and that's something that we wanted to do. 63 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: I think it's important to have somebody helping if you can, 64 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: um along the way. But this and this engagement celebration 65 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: is really cool because we haven't really like done that 66 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: yet and I am I am excited to especially for Jess. 67 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: Like I get to talk about my engagement all the 68 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: time because I'm always on interviews, I'm always on this uh. 69 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: And I think Jesse, you know, she works really hard 70 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: and I'm sure at the office people ask her, but 71 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: she is an esthetician and I think it's similar bedside 72 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: managers to like being a musseused, where like once you 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: get asked the first question, you really don't want to 74 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: talk to the person the whole time they're getting a facial. 75 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: And so I'm excited for her to celebrate this. I'm 76 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: excited to be in NAPA with her. It's actually where 77 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: she wanted to do her bachelor party and it just 78 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: ended up being too expensive for like everybody involved. And 79 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be good that we get to do 80 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: this UM and go out there and kind of celebrate it. 81 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: But super pumped to be there I hope all of 82 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: you listening can join us and just like have a 83 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: night of toasting up to love and to all of 84 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: our loves and all of our lives. What's like the 85 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: theme of your wedding? Like, what's the vibe? Uh? I 86 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: don't know if we have a theme, but what we're 87 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: going for. But what do you think our theme was? 88 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: It was like, I'd say, it's like Disney like fairy 89 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: tale kind of. Ours was like very like, I guess beauty, 90 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I yeah, yeah, and you pulled 91 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: it off ours. What I really want with ours is 92 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: I want people to leave going. I'm really glad I 93 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: came because I know Jessica and I are going to 94 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: be so thankful that we have a wedding and that 95 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: people are there. That that's gonna Like when we talked 96 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: about it at the beginning, it was like, we just 97 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: want people to leave this going. We're so glad we're 98 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: here at this. And so it's very much set up 99 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: for like a celebration, a party, um with a really 100 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 1: nice ceremony, and so our theme is it's just partying down. 101 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: I think that's it, I think, and just celebrating life 102 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: and hopefully we still get to um, you know, Novembers 103 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: a little bit away. We'll see how the world change. Me. Well, 104 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: things are, things are changing quickly, and we're we're holding 105 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: on um and we're gonna keep plugging away until until 106 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: we know for certain. But that's a plan. It's a party. 107 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: We're pumped to have it. We're pumped to be there. Uh, Ashley, 108 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: we have a big podcast now. The last couple of weeks, 109 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: we've gone kind of I feel like on this roller 110 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: coaster ride through this season. Right, We've enjoyed um, the contestants. 111 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: We've really enjoyed watching Katie. Uh, We've We've liked this 112 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: season for a lot of reasons. I do though, and 113 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to just make this a bash podcast 114 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: because it's not. I do feel like the last two episodes, 115 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: this one in the week before, I felt a little 116 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: short of the rest of the season. Um, you know, 117 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: we talked about it to Lank class week. You don't 118 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: have to dive into it, but like the whole like 119 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: uh no woo wooing thing was weird. It didn't really 120 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: even get brought up this week, which was even otter 121 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: like it was a thing last week. She asked him 122 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: to do it for two weeks, but this week it 123 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: wasn't even talked about. It's kind of like just disappeared. 124 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: I still don't know what the whole thing was about 125 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: this episode. We talked a little bit before you felt 126 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: disconnected from the contestants this episode, and you felt like 127 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: the connections that we were seeing build weren't as strong 128 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: this week. I felt the same way. I think we 129 00:06:48,720 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: shall discuss this in depth after take a break. Okay, 130 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: so bad. I felt like, and I want to say, 131 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: no chemistry, but I think this is like the week 132 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: where you're supposed to be like feeling fireworks, right, you 133 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: get really excited, you like start feeling like your heart 134 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: swell and stuff when you're watching scenes. And I know 135 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: I was supposed to start feeling I know I was 136 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: supposed to feel that with Greg and Katie on that 137 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: one on one, and I didn't feel it. I didn't 138 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: feel it. Maybe I felt it first split second during 139 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: their like kissing in the rain. What do you think 140 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: that means? Because I agree with you, I am agreeing 141 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: with you that when he got invited on the one 142 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: on one, I thought this is gonna just move him 143 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: so far beyond the pack that it's going to be 144 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: so obvious that he's the one at the end. But 145 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: it felt I mean, at least, let's talk about the 146 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: first part of the date. It felt very awkward. Maybe 147 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: they're both nervous. Maybe that felt like, oh my gosh, 148 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: you're the guy I had feelings for, You're the girl 149 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: I had feeling for for. We haven't to one on 150 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: one in weeks. This kind of feels like weird, um, 151 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: but it it did feel disconnected. It did feel like 152 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: they didn't have the fireworks that we were I was 153 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: expecting watching the date. I feel like we were supposed 154 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: to feel it though, like they wanted us to feel it, 155 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: but we just couldn't you think, okay, you think the 156 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: storyline of this date, like when when people watched it 157 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: and put it on air, they said, this is like, yeah, 158 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: there's an obvious chemistry here. Are we missing it? Actually? 159 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: Like our maybe we should throw it through listeners, listeners, messages, emails. 160 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: Did you miss the chemistry here? Because we did? Actually? 161 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: Are we on? Like? Are we just too crazy? Is here? 162 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't know? Maybe I felt like nothing. I don't know. 163 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: I and and to even lead up to this date 164 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it is a strong move for Katie to 165 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: have Greg on this date, especially the first one on 166 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: one of the episode, because they always do that though, 167 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: they always leave one guy out of having a one 168 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: on one, and they always give the one that like 169 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: you think should have gone to the guy who never 170 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: had a one on one to the quote front runner, sure, 171 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: and I don't and I just like to feel like 172 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: he's not a front runner anymore. But like I don't know. 173 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: Sorry I keep saying I don't know, but that's a 174 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: big statement that you're making, that you feel like Greg 175 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: isn't a front runner. But we have to We have 176 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: two guys sitting there going, hey, we've never had a 177 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: one on one, and I know that the show historically 178 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: has done this, but it has to be defeating right 179 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: for the two people. Even if one gets invited onto 180 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: one on one, you know later that afternoon or the 181 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: next day. I don't know how the timeline of that 182 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: plays out. It still has to be kind of like 183 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: just like wind at like completely like away from your 184 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: sales when you hear the name of somebody's already had 185 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: one and you're pretty much being told I don't want 186 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: to spend time with you right now. Yeah, I know 187 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: it is. I kind of was there because when on 188 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: Chris Souls this season, Kelsey and I were the only 189 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: ones who had not had one on ones and then 190 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: we went on the two on one. Yeah, and and 191 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: and I mean even a two on one, I think 192 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: feels like it's more intimate than you have more of 193 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: a shot than just being rejected for the other one 194 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: on one. I totally great, right, I mean I do 195 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: feel like it's more of a more of a statement 196 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: to have the two on one right away. Now, do 197 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: you think they were tired that because if we haven't 198 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: had it for a couple of seasons now, Yeah, I 199 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: don't know. I think I love the two on one. 200 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: I thought it was controversial. I thought it always built 201 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: some drama. I thought it was always kept you on 202 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: the uh you know, the edge of your seat. I 203 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: mean during my season when I had the two on one, 204 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: not only was it one of the dates I looked 205 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: forward to the least, I do feel like though it 206 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: was one of the most talked about dates still to 207 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: this day. Yeah, with Ferguson and uh, the one you 208 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: had Okay held, I was like, were you on a No, 209 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: it's just I mean, so for the lead, it's super uncomfortable, 210 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: and so you have that that's pretty good TV because 211 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: anytime the lead feels uncomfortable, it's enjoyable to watch, I think. 212 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: And then you know every season, I mean I could 213 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: go back in time and five for the last six seasons, 214 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: and I can't remember a lot from shows. I can 215 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: tell you who's been invited on two and once just 216 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: because that episode is so intense. Yeah, so weird, so 217 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: weird that they haven't had that. Um but I guess, like, 218 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: is there anything else left to talk about with about 219 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: with Greg because that's the first one on one day 220 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: and I just felt like not much from it. Well, 221 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: you did mention that we have to give it credits, 222 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: we have to point it out. You did feel like 223 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: at the end maybe some fireworks with the kissing at 224 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: the end kind of maybe made you feel something, so 225 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't completely lost where the episode where the date 226 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: ended and you're like, oh, yeah, there's nothing here, Yeah, 227 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: especially from her, like you could see the passion and 228 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: when she's like on top of him, when he's picking 229 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: her up, kissing her, she's she's really kissing him, She's 230 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: really going in I mean, and she wants to. I mean, 231 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: at this point, she's had a hard week before. She 232 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: probably sees Greg as comfortable to her because she does 233 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: know she's into him. She does know that he stayed 234 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: out of a lot of the drama. She's kind of 235 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: been into him since the beginning, and so I'm sure 236 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: she was wanting to feel this, uh in every way, 237 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: just to kind of give her a reminder, Yes, she 238 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: still is into somebody here. Well, we flashed from Greg 239 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: to a group date, uh where Brendan is invited on 240 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: and he's not happy about it. Ashley. I feel for 241 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: the guy. We've wondered why he's here still to this 242 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: day because nobody knows his name. He hasn't been shown. 243 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: But I think he did the right move here. I 244 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: agree with what he did where he went down to 245 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: talk to Katie one on one to say what in 246 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: the world's happening? Yeah, I don't have much to elaborate on. 247 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: I think it was the best move because I think 248 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: he was going to go into it feeling so much 249 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: like the underdog that like, his confidence wouldn't have been up, 250 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: and you're he probably wouldn't have had the time that 251 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: it would take to win her over, and I like 252 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 1: the way he came across when he went upstairs to 253 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: kind of like all right, I'm just ready to rip 254 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,599 Speaker 1: the band aid off. Yeah, I mean, it's it's. It 255 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: probably was a hard decision for him because I think 256 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: he probably knew where it was ending, right, I mean, 257 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: he knew that that was his last to rah with Katie. 258 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: But it makes sense we haven't seen any chemistry. Maybe 259 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: they've had it without us being able to watch it, 260 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: but even when they sat down to talk, I think 261 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: Katie like has enjoyed Brendan. I think she respects Brendan, 262 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: but I don't think there was much romantic feeling for 263 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: Brendan there. Yeah, I agree. So he gets sent home, 264 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: which really puts the pressure on the guys who are left. 265 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: You're like, oh man, you're just when it comes down 266 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: to like numbers that like you could so easily count 267 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: and get scarier. Um, okay. So we go on the 268 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: group date. So it's Andrew, Michael, Justin, and Blake and 269 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: they are going they go to an art exhibit in 270 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: which the flower art looks kind of like maybe maybe 271 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: it looks like female intimate areas, and they they brush 272 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: over that subject, and then they tell them that they 273 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: need to go and create art that describes like what 274 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: the beauty and love is that they have for for Katie. 275 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: And it's just a very very weird time because there 276 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of instruction direction that guys like create 277 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: like like Michael creates like the back of a body, 278 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: and then Lake does a black picture and he's like 279 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: pretending that means something about sex, and then Andrew draws sushi? 280 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: Was there anything beyond the foodie love between them for that? 281 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: And then lastly, uh, Justin did like a trail of 282 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: their story thus far with a rose in the middle. Ben, 283 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: what were you thinking during this daytime portion of the 284 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: group date. I have a lot of thoughts, uh. One 285 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: of them is, you know, I do think this could 286 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: have been a beautiful moment because art, you know, you 287 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: can't really define it right if you just give them 288 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: the like, think, hey, what is the love of the 289 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: connection for you and Katie look like in your mind? Right? 290 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: I think that's a fair like way to start out 291 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: when people go and paint and and and create. I do, though, 292 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: feel like it to immediately think of sex feels a 293 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: little bit odd. You mean, like what how Blake took 294 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: it or how everybody took everything. Oh, I think how 295 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: Blake took it mostly is in my mind. It's like 296 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: when you think of your connection with Katie and your 297 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: immediate mind goes to, Okay, yes she is beautiful, Yes 298 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: there is a physical like intimacy there. It just feels 299 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: weird for that to be how you would express your 300 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: love for Katie or your care for me. Don't you 301 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: feel like this is just you and I just having 302 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of a distaste every week for Blake's decisions. Well, 303 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: I do think it's well so far, there isn't a 304 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: lot I like in like super like down with uh. 305 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: And I do think it's a moment though, that could 306 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: have made Katie feel super special. I mean, if you're 307 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: if you're getting asked to do something and this can 308 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: make the person that you're expressing your care your love 309 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: for just like feel incredible. That's something I would take 310 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: pretty serious, especially if I was into that person. Like 311 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: that's a cool moment, right. I Mean That's why I'm 312 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: questioning like all the artwork that was created, because I 313 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: think it could be so easy. That was a task 314 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: that like you could interpret so many different ways because 315 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: there was a lack of direction and you can like 316 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: create whatever you want and it could be like really 317 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: pretty and it just could be like symbolic. But I 318 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: honestly seem it seemed like a simple task and they 319 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: way overthought it. Yeah, I mean some kind of went 320 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: with the humor of it, like the sushi side. Um, 321 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, maybe like Justin did like pull deep there, 322 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: uh and and pull out some things that were meaningful 323 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 1: to him. I just felt like all of them missed 324 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: at some level where Katie could have walked away from 325 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: this date being like, holy moly, like these guys went 326 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: above and beyond to make me feel special and like 327 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: for that, I am so thankful. I don't know if 328 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: she necessarily had that response from this date, or at 329 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: least if I was in her shoes and I asked 330 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of people, hey, paint paint something that represents 331 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: our connection, and this is what was painted, I don't 332 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: know if I would be feeling much for it, Like, 333 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would maybe maybe maybe I'm 334 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: missing it, but I don't think I would. Yeah, I 335 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: mean I would have preferred just time more time with 336 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: them at the cocktail party, so at the cocktail party, 337 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: Katie talks about um. She talks to Michael about how 338 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: she's like envisioning her life in Ohio with his child, 339 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: and she says, every time I give you a rose, 340 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm also giving him a rose. And I mean, like 341 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: that is a lot. That's that's that means she's like 342 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: really considering him. I I love Michael, I want him 343 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: to be the next Bachelor, but I'm also like not 344 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: feeling like there's like this insane like this is like 345 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: the future mother of his stepmother of his child. I see. 346 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: I feel like Michael is my front runner now this week, 347 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: I do. I I think, with Andrew obviously leaving h 348 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:09,239 Speaker 1: the Greg date not going incredibly well, at least from 349 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: my opinion. I don't know if Katie or Greg would 350 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: say that, Uh, I feel like Michael is my front runner. 351 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: Michael is my front runner. As far as like who's 352 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: my favorite, I don't know if it's like the favorite 353 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: for Katie. I still think Blake is a front runner. 354 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: So interesting it is. I mean it wouldn't shock me 355 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: at this point. Maybe a few weeks ago when you 356 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: said that, I was a little bit thrown off and shocked, 357 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: But it wouldn't shock me. I still don't just feel like, 358 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: out of all these guys, uh, Michael to me report 359 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: if she's saying every week, hey, I'm here believing my 360 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: husband's in this room. I look at Michael like that's 361 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: a guy i'd want to date my sister. Yeah, I 362 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: mean he's a husband and material he's been a husband. 363 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: So that's why I lean on that. I mean, Justin 364 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: is obviously still there, and Justin seems we're gonna know 365 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: more about Justin as the weeks go on. But but 366 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 1: Michael still stands out to me in that and I'm 367 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna put my stake in the ground with 368 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: on Michael until I feel like that needs a change, 369 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: because I just I think he would be great for Katie. 370 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: I think Katie would be great for him. But there 371 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: is that, I mean, that's a huge statement for her 372 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: that every week she's considering his child in the mix 373 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: of this. That's not I mean coming from a place 374 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: where you know, Amanda stand was on my season, Like 375 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: you do think about that and that adds some weight 376 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: to it. And as long as she's keeping him around, 377 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: you know that she is very interested. Do you think 378 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: we meet the child next week for Hometowns. Yes, yeah, 379 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: I think there's no way that doesn't happen. I mean, 380 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: it's been such a storyline. We see him facetiming as 381 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: child this week in the episode. I think if if 382 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,959 Speaker 1: his son wouldn't show up, I just feel like the 383 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: audience would be so confused. We don't really have a 384 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: scene to the next episode at the end of this, 385 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: which is interesting. It is interesting. Well the group date 386 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: as goes to Michael. That's a that's a big deal, 387 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: in my opinion, is a big deal. Oh you know 388 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: what else happened at that nighttime portion? Blake said, I'm 389 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: not falling in love. I'm not in love with you yet. 390 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: I don't hate it. I didn't hate it either, I 391 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: don't hate I liked that. It was very honest. It's honest. 392 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: I mean he's still around, you know. So he's not 393 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: like saying, hey, I don't I'm not in love with 394 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: you and uh I as a result, like I want 395 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: to go. No, he's saying, I'm still very interested. I 396 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: still want to be here, and he hasn't been there 397 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: that long. So I like the honesty because at least 398 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: she knows where he's at. And that's all you want 399 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: in relationships is just for each partner to be honest 400 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: with each other and then you figure it out. You know. 401 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: I don't hate it. I don't. I think it was 402 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: played up in scenes, it was so played up, but 403 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: it went over fine. Yeah. I think she understands, like, yeah, 404 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm not in love with you yet either. Yeah, 405 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: we got that's what she's saying. Yeah, we got some 406 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: time to make up for. And it doesn't mean there's 407 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: still Here's a crazy thing we talked about every season, Ashley, 408 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: but this is the wild thing to think about. Okay. 409 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: And I don't know if the timeline has changed at all, 410 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: uh with this new structure of being in one one place. 411 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: But as soon as like hometown Week starts, you're only 412 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: halfway through the show when it comes to filming. Isn't 413 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: that wacky? I mean I know that as a fact, 414 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: but it just you would never think that. But I 415 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: think with this new setup not maybe not so much, 416 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: because I think usually it's like you travel, travel, travel, travel, 417 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: and the travel time is taking up a lot of 418 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: that time. Yeah, and this setup you probably are bouncing 419 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: a little bit faster. But typically and I still think 420 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: I would still believe that there they have at least 421 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: four three or four weeks left of filming, I hope, 422 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: so after this episode, So there, and there's a lot 423 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: more one on one time there. There's a lot more 424 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: time to be like intimate and conversation and be loan. 425 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: So there is time for Blake still uh to figure 426 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: out what it is he wants and what Katie wants 427 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: with Blake. But there's just that's the point I want 428 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: to like drive in is for anybody watching this and 429 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: they're going there's only a few weeks left, yes, but 430 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: there's only been a few weeks leading up to this too, 431 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: Like there, this is really where things get serious is 432 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: starting with Hometowns moving into overnights and then the final 433 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: uh couple of men left for the last two episodes. 434 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: That's where things get get intense. Well, uh Ash walks 435 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: through the end of the episode because a little bit 436 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: of a shocker. I think, um on how it ended. Well, 437 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: first way to talk about Mike P's day, which I 438 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: think we all went into Mike pc D knowing that 439 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: he was going to get eliminated, Like there was no 440 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: way he was going to make it to Hometowns but like, 441 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: how much do you love Mike? Be Like, how sweet 442 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: and wonderful and what a great husband is he gonna 443 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: make one day? He? Uh he has he hasn't, Just 444 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: like a really good heart. And you can tell the 445 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: way that he cared about the experience, he cares about Katie. 446 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: Uh that. Yeah, I think he's gonna make a great husband. 447 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: And I think this experience. I'm interested at some point 448 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: to get the interview Mike, because I'm imagining I don't 449 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: want to put words in it saying it was a 450 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: little bit overwhelming at times because it was so new 451 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: to him in every way, uh that. But but he 452 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: handled it really well, and I think he was an 453 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: interesting character to follow from start to finish. I didn't 454 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: think he make it this far, not based on anything 455 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: about him, but just kind of how he approached you know, 456 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: physical intimacy, how he approached his relationship with Katie. But 457 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: like Katie and him found something and it lasted quite 458 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, And I like that that happened. I 459 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: like that they have like such mutual respect for each other. 460 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: And I love the way that he handled the breakup. 461 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I know a lot of guys handled breakups 462 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: well on the show, but like he just had such 463 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: grace about it, and he just I think he was 464 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: just really thinking about Katie first and foremost and not himself. 465 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: He wanted didn't hurt, to do what was best for her. Yeah, 466 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I really I really left that scene hoping 467 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: that he's in Paradise, But I don't. I don't know 468 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: about that. Maybe next week we'll get that announcement, because 469 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: we did get and we'll talk about this on Hot Topics. 470 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: But we've got some more guys from Katie season that 471 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: we're announced for Paradise, and he's not in that list, 472 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: but I guess he wouldn't be until after tonight. I 473 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: hope he is. I hope he is. I I like 474 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: that guy. Um. And you know, we've seen characters in 475 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: the past. Uh here, here's a good comparison that I'm 476 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: gonna make. We've seen characters come on to the Bachelorette 477 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: or Bachelor in the past and kind of use their 478 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: faith as a weapon, um, and and their moral like 479 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: stances as a weapon to bring shame or gilt or 480 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: to kind of put them in a like on a 481 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: pedestal in this experience. And Mike p never did that. 482 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: And I have to say, like that won't get talked 483 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 1: about a lot because we only talk about the drama, 484 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: and we only talked about the people that cause controversy 485 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 1: and that. But like Mike P, I told everybody kind 486 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: of where he stands, especially when it comes to sex 487 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 1: and where it comes to his faith, and then he 488 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: played it out and he lived it out without using 489 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: as a weapon against everybody else or Katie and I 490 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: think that it's like it has to be talked about 491 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: because it has to be celebrated at some level because 492 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: other people haven't done that in the past, the extreme 493 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: opposite of Luke p extreme opposite. I also like the 494 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: fact that they didn't feel like he was virginity was 495 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: like exploited in anyway. It was like, hey, here it is, 496 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: this is me. Um. It was just very well embraced 497 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: in every way. And I really like that. Um. Okay, 498 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: So then let's get to that shocking spin of things. 499 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: At the end, I was watching the Rose ceremony, lying 500 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: here gross and being like okay, okay, and then I 501 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: call it, you know, like I'm like, okay, you're gonna 502 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 1: give him the first I you Blake was gonna get 503 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: the first Rose at the ceremony and then I was like, 504 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 1: and then he's gonna get the room. And then I 505 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, so now it's going to be It's 506 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: gonna be Andrew, you know, like I called it in 507 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: my head. I was like Andrew. I could like see 508 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: her saying it. And then she said Justin, and I 509 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: was like, shocker. That was so crazy. And as the 510 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: episode unfolds and you see he can come back to 511 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: her room and then have that talk and then her 512 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: run after him, You're just like, Okay, and again, why 513 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: did you pick Justin? Because this entire season we felt 514 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: more between her and Andrew, and he's had way more airtime, 515 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: and Justin just seems so random. It wasn't until last 516 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: week that we really got to like know Justin at all. 517 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: So it's just weird. Why is that? Like? Why did 518 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: we watch this whole season feeling like Okay? Andrew for 519 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: me has always been top three. He's always been a 520 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: steady force in Katie's like experience here and then all, 521 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: I mean, did their relationship just fade that quick? I 522 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: mean Justin, yes, we saw one on one with him, 523 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: there was there was something there. But if you would 524 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: have asked me last week it wasn't anywhere close to 525 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: Andrew's connection with her, Like, why is this the story 526 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: that now we have to figure out? Is that, like 527 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: Andrew's gone. I can only think that it's one of 528 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: those situations where she like, she likes Andrew Moore. This 529 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: happens all the time, guys on the show. She likes 530 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: Andrew Moore, but she still knows in the end that 531 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: she's not gonna pick Andrew, so she'd rather not put 532 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: him through the family situation and drag him on, lead 533 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: him on. Makes sense, but like, could you believe that 534 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: he gives her the note It says I'll still be 535 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: waiting for you if you change your mind or something 536 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: like that, and then she goes and runs after him. 537 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: The look on his face when he sees her one 538 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: thousand percent reads, oh my god, she changed her mind. 539 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: She's coming back for me. And then she's just like, 540 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: I just wanted one more hug. I'm like, oh my god, 541 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: now you're really leading this poor guy on. Yeah, he's crushed. 542 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah that is tough. I didn't think about that, but 543 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: I have probably been best just to read the note 544 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: and put it aside, right and go with this. She sucks. Yeah, 545 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: he did get excited again. Yeah, I mean she did 546 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: ask him like, what would you say if you could 547 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: stay around a little bit longer? And I think his 548 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: decision to the go was appropriate because it's like, you 549 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: already picked somebody over me, Like, I don't want to 550 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: just go through the breakup again. Yeah. I imagine this 551 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: one was hard on Katie because she probably doesn't have 552 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: a ton of clarity on why she made that decision 553 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: outside of hey, I just don't see him as my husband. Yeah. Uh. 554 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: But then again, Ashley, and you've I've known enough leads. 555 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: Do you believe that she's looking at the final four 556 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: here going each one of these guys could be my husband? Like, 557 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: do you think she's looking at Justin? Saying that? Do 558 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: you think she's looking at Greg and Blake and Michael 559 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: like going each So that's why I get confused if 560 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: that was her basis, she just knew that Andrew wasn't it. 561 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: Maybe that was a difference, maybe, I mean, but I 562 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: think she knows that Justin is not it too. She 563 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: did say during the group day that she feels like 564 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: she could be one herself with him, but I don't know, 565 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: there's just no way. We would never We've never known 566 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 1: somebody so little throughout a season and then like that 567 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: end up being them. Um, anything else to dissect, There 568 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: is one little part for me. During the scenes to 569 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: the next episode, she alludes to the guy being gone, 570 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: like he left, and like, I've sense that this is coming, 571 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: that there's somebody who leaves, and I still think it's 572 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: gonna be Michael, because I think he has a conversation 573 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: with his kid again and it's just he just can't 574 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: do it. It would be it would be hard for 575 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: for everybody, I think, for Katie, for the viewers, if 576 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: that's how Michael exited. But he's held on and I 577 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: know it can't be easy for him, but he's held 578 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: on this long. I would be surprised if he couldn't 579 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: hold on now to the end. That would be, you know, 580 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: that would be the only thing would be he's been 581 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: around this long, he sees the lights end of the tunnel. 582 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: He still believes and I still believe. I think all 583 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: of us still believe that he's a front runner here. 584 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: Unless he just gets clarity and says, yeah, this isn't it. 585 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if he leaves. But uh, we're gonna 586 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: be keeping watch over the next week and then I'm 587 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: gonna continue to dissect the sneak peek. But I feel 588 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: like the more I dissect the sneak peaks Ash, the 589 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: farther and farther I get from the truth. I don't 590 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: think I've seen a sneak peak and going, oh, this 591 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: is how it's gonna play out, and then that's how 592 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: it happens. I just you know what I'm thinking of 593 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: what normally in the sneak peak, don't we see like 594 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: them walking to like the altar, the final ceremony with her, 595 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: and like a big dress. We haven't seen any of 596 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: that kind of tease. Super interesting, That's why you're the expert. Well, 597 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: that's been the breakdown of this week's episode. Uh not Made. 598 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: Didn't necessarily hit where we wanted it to, but still 599 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: got some information out there, some really shocking exits, and 600 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: some people sticking around for hometowns that we'll be watching 601 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: and breaking down right here on almost from his podcast. 602 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: Next week, Ash, it's time for hot topics. Let's take 603 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: a break, go to glass Water. Will be back to 604 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: break down all the crazy stuff happening in Bachelor Nation. 605 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: It's time for Bachelor Headlines with our expert Ashley Liken 606 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: Eddie here to break down every story in the way 607 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: that she knows how, which is fantastically. The first headline 608 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: is this Bachelor in Paradise ads for new contestants Haley 609 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,959 Speaker 1: from Katie Thurston's Bachelorette season. Mm hmmm, I teased this before, 610 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: So Aaron, you know the guy who hates everyone, Connor 611 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: who everybody loves the catman Um, Trey, and James will 612 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: all be joining the summer spinoff. How do you feel 613 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: about all these? Um? I mean, I guess we're all 614 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: happy to see Connor there because he's such a sweet guy. 615 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: Everybody else I'm kind of like neutral on Yeah, yeah, 616 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: I am excited to see Connor. I bet he brings 617 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: his guitar. What do you think? Oh? Yeah, one th percent. 618 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't overdo it, because you know, you 619 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: can overdo the musical instruments on the show if you'd like, 620 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: keep leading into it. Who was that person that did 621 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: that all the time? J exactly. Thank you for reminding 622 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: me of that. Yeah, that was rough. Uh. Next big 623 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: headline is Jason Tartik slams nasty comments critiquing Caitlin Bristow's appearance. 624 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: It's grotesque, he says. So Jason is standing up for 625 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: his fiancee Caitlin Um, saying she's been getting so many 626 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: negative comments on her looks, absolutely freaking insane and ridiculous. 627 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: He says, I don't know why people think it's okay 628 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: to say that they do on Twitter. There's so many 629 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 1: things in this world we can control, and there's so 630 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: many things we can't control. Our looks and things like 631 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: that are the are most of the things we can't control. 632 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: And the way that people make comments nasty comments about 633 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: people's appearances, and obviously I'm specifically referring to Caitlin, it's grotesque, 634 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: it's a joke. Um. And then Caitlin said, I'm not 635 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: playing the um and then he continued to say, I'm 636 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: not playing the victim card for her. And like you said, 637 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: it's been a great opportunity to come on the show 638 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: and all the things that have happened, But the good 639 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: comes with the bad, and with some of the bad, 640 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: you're just like, oh, she's age, Well yeah, we all 641 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: effing age, Like what do you want to do about that? 642 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it is it's crazy that has been seven 643 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: years since Caitlin and I have been partner started this journey. 644 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: You know, seven years a lot does change. I look 645 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: back on pictures of myself and like, I'm like, oh 646 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: my gosh, the collagen and the bounce in my face. 647 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: Like I look back on those seasons and I wish 648 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: I had the face that I had back then. I 649 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: can see myself aging and Caitlin is beautiful, stunning, it's 650 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: just insane. She's beautiful, and it just I mean, he 651 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: he does make a very good comment, like the good 652 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: comes of the bad. Um. People just don't like this. 653 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: Some people and not all. Some people don't like to 654 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: see other people succeed. And she's thriving right now. It's 655 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: been a huge year for her, so people are gonna, 656 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, chup at her and say those things. It's 657 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: just even if it's not true. But good for him 658 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: to stand up in the way that he did. I 659 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: thought it was a great, uh, a great message that 660 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: he sent out there to a lot of people. Because 661 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: she's not the only one that receives hate on social media. 662 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: We all know that well. Um Ali Fantotowski reveals her 663 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: only horrible regret from her season of The Bachelorette. It 664 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: was her hairstyle. It was a picture of like one 665 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: of her promo pictures, and she said, Um, I do 666 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: wish I enjoyed it more in the moment, um, but 667 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: I would never regret it. It's the reason that my 668 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: life turned out the way it is today. She says 669 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: that about the show, But the one thing that she 670 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: really can't stand is looking back on this one picture. Um, 671 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: that's funny. She still looks very cute. It's I think 672 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: she was one of the most beloved bachelorts of all times. 673 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: So but uh, just a different time. I'm sure we 674 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: all look back on the same My I makeup was 675 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: so heavy, there's lots of things, but it looks just 676 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: changed over the years. So I'm pretty sure back in 677 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: um two thousand ten, when she was bachelor, she probably 678 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: thought that was pretty cute. I think so well, Hey, 679 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: final headline of the week is Matt James and Rachel 680 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: Um speak out on overcoming quote difficult time in their romance, 681 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: were better, they say so. They say they're in a 682 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 1: good place where they are now, but they did work 683 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: hard to get where they are today. When they were 684 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: at the sp Awards on Saturday, this is what Rachel said. 685 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: I will say that, you know, of course it was 686 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: difficult in the moment, but just being able to step 687 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: back and work on our relationship to assess, taking a 688 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: moment away from the spotlight, it's been really good for us. 689 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: It's been a lot better. And then um Matt said, 690 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: I'm following the lead of everybody else. You know, I 691 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: think that I look to people who have been where 692 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to. Rachel's parents have been a 693 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: relationship for a long time. They've been married for probably 694 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: as long as I've been alive, and he said, so 695 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: their relationships that are prospering. Um So, relationships that are 696 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: prospering are what I kind of fixed my eyes on 697 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: and hope to emulate. Well, they did make an appearance 698 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: at the SPS. They didn't speak out on it. They 699 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: are together, they're dating, their figuring out well. Ashley, thank 700 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: you again. I know this is a crazy season of 701 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: life for you. You are a Trooper. You're gonna be 702 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: here every week as long as the stomach allows um 703 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: hosting this podcast. We'll be back next week to break 704 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: down hometowns. Hometown is gonna be done a little differently 705 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: again this season but still get to meet the families. 706 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: I don't even know what they're calling them home towns anymore. Anyways, Hey, 707 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: i've been been, I've been Ashley. Bye, guys. Follow the 708 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on iHeart Radio, 709 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.