1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: One thing I like about you, Danny, from when I 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: first met you, you have what I call you might 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: be one of the most natural born hustlers I've ever 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: met in my life. 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: Don't curse me like that. 6 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: All right, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome back to Not 7 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: My Best Moment Podcast with me your host keV on Stage, author. 8 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: Of New York Times bestseller Successful Failure. If you're new 9 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: to the podcast, this is a podcast where I talk 10 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: to artists, athletes, entertainers, friends about their failures. Of course 11 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 3: they have had success. Today's guest is none other than 12 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: Danny Rose, entrepreneur, author, a war winning lifestyle, food and 13 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 3: TV hosts and personality. Author of Danny's Juke Joint Come 14 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: from Food cookbook, Modern Day Recipes, Old School Flavors. She 15 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 3: has multiple ebooks, including Fine Dining and Danny's Davy Dish, 16 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: available on her selfie store. Her YouTube channel, the Danny 17 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: Rose Network, has over one million subscribers. You've seen her 18 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: on The Big Bake, You've seen her on Taste Made 19 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: original series Pinterest, Deliciously Entertaining, and I can personally tell 20 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: you that nobody on God's Green Earth can fry no 21 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 3: fish like Danny Rose. Danny Rose fried fish like a 22 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: deacon that served in the Vietnam War. She also makes 23 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: a sweet Pope pumpkin pie that bridges the gap of 24 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: black culture and white culture, will make you enjoy pumpkin pie, 25 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: and is the only person that has ever made a 26 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: seafood potato salad that I've ever eaten. Ladies and gentlemen, 27 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: please welcome Danny Row. How Danny, It's good to see you. 28 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: You look them amazing. I do my best, I do 29 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: my level best. I hope you are well. You've been killing. 30 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: I want to jump right in, Danny, because I'm finding 31 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: some stuff of my team sending over some of your 32 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: not best moments at I didn't know, Okay, So I. 33 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 3: Would love to get in to tell. 34 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: Me about this veneer story that happened during your first 35 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: Food Network filming. 36 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: What what was the goings on? 37 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: First of all, hey, everybody that's listening and watching, Okay, 38 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 4: it's about to be. 39 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: Honey. 40 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 4: Okay, now, I this was this was definitely not my 41 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: best moment because I decided to go and get veneers 42 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 4: the day before one of my biggest appearances ever. That 43 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 4: this is my first season on Food Network. So you 44 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 4: do all this work throughout the years and get this 45 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 4: big old moment to actually become this amazing judge on 46 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 4: Food Network with these people that I really do admire, 47 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: you know, And I'm just like, okay, before I go, 48 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: I had bracelet that time, I was like, you know what, they're. 49 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: Gone dump. 50 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 4: And if people don't know, the veneer process takes time 51 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: if you go to the right doctor, like you have 52 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: to make sure you'll have any cavities or anything like that. 53 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: So this was a frog sax. 54 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: So I have my temporaries in and then I was like, 55 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: there's no way I can go all the way to 56 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 4: Canada for six weeks to shoot the show with some 57 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: TIMPs because some temps babies they like six The butt 58 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: across my mouth just each too was a stick of butter. 59 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: So I was like okay. And then on top of that, 60 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: I had to go get them done in a snowstorm. 61 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 4: So I got them done in Dallas, Texas, and so 62 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: I had to go from LA to Dallas. And this 63 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: was when the snowstorm is happening in Dallas. So I 64 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 4: fly from LA to Dallas because I'm telling my genus, 65 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, I have to get these teeth. 66 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: Done now, mind you, the temporaries was fine, but they. 67 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: Don't They really don't conform. 68 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: To your mouth. So I know and get my teeth done. 69 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 4: The day before, I'm in the snow trying to get 70 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 4: them done. He he done the teeth, and I'm like 71 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: styling and profiling through the airport like you know, at 72 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 4: the time, I don't know we had masks. I think 73 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 4: we had masks at the time. I can't remember, but 74 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 4: I'm I'm going through the airport like chicking. 75 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: This mask off. 76 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: Y'all have to see all these teeth up and had 77 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 4: to pay all this money for you know what I mean. 78 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: Then I get stuck in Dallas. Anyway, that was the 79 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 4: whole story. So I fly to Canada. Nobody's talking about 80 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: the next day. 81 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: The first day is fine, you might bling bling. I'm 82 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: leaving like. 83 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: I don't really like cage money taking over for the 84 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 4: ninety nine to two thousand. 85 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: The first day, I'm going through the airport. 86 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 4: Don't tell me you no, Maxico, Okay, But nobody talks 87 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: about the next day and how your mouth has to 88 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 4: conform to your new teeth, especially if you're not used 89 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 4: to have me like super straight teeth. I ain't gonna 90 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: have to straight teap for my life. So I've always 91 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 4: talked with like a little list but something like that. 92 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 4: But with my veneers, you know, it kind of controls day. 93 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: I get to Canada and I get to my rehearsal 94 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 4: that well, the next day, I'm waking up and I 95 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 4: feel the paint And when I tell you, I was like, okay, 96 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 4: I'm bed to get through that and take some medicine. 97 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 4: But no one told me how your whole mouth has 98 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 4: to conform like this when you're talking. So this is 99 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 4: how I was talking during a rehearsal. I got no video, 100 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 4: so I send it stick to your life? 101 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: Have me? 102 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 4: And you know what she says? Have you gotten you 103 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 4: see your teeth yet? People and you know, friends are 104 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: recording other screens. My first big show, Have you got 105 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 4: me to see your teeth yet? I'm on the screen 106 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 4: just like this and rehearsal. You know how ahearsal go. 107 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 4: You're doing stand here. I'm like, okay, I'm already nervous. 108 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 4: Was my first season. And they're like, okay, Danny, here's 109 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 4: your line. I'm like, what to the Big Ray on 110 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: Food Network? The Big on Food Networks six weeks of this. Yeah, 111 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: so I'm just like, like you got me? Your'm like, girl, No, 112 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 4: I mean I am literally like a beaver showing on 113 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 4: carrots up there. 114 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: I think I'm looking good, you know what I'm saying. 115 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: I'm struggled. 116 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 4: I struggled that whole entire season with these dog own teeth. 117 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: But I made it through. 118 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 4: But it was so embarrassing because I couldn't talk. It's 119 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: like I couldn't really be comfortable, you know what I'm saying. 120 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: I was so self conscious, and so I produced me 121 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 4: like you look great. 122 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 2: I'm like okay. 123 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 124 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 4: The whole time it was thank you, you know. So 125 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: that was definitely not a good moment for me. I 126 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: did not think that through at all. You know some 127 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: people with their cosmic surgery, because I was like, okay, 128 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: wh I'm not getting my boobs done and I'm not 129 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 4: doing anything in real africare and no one talks about 130 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 4: the next day or the next few weeks when you 131 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 4: get your teeth done. 132 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: Now, baby, talk about that, because I would have with 133 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: all of them. 134 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: Tims, how how long would you say it took you 135 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: until you actually felt come? 136 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, I do not know. 137 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 4: It was a what's that time? Day after day? That's 138 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 4: what it was the whole time for me. Every day 139 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 4: I was just trying to make it through. I lost 140 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 4: way because I couldn't really eat. I'm over there trying 141 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 4: to take these cakes. I'm eating around. Somebody had creakings theirs. 142 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 4: I was like, man, don't get suck on my teeth. 143 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: The crickets and the cake felt like how was the 144 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 4: taste amazing? Just like I ain't no cake cake in 145 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 4: the back of my mouth, just sitting there like a 146 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 4: decay too, just sitting back there. I ain't don't know 147 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: what the lady's cakes and stuff tastes like. 148 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: Justly, oh my god. 149 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: But it was it was rough. 150 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 4: It was a rough yeah, that was But when I 151 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: went back for my next thing, but I was I 152 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 4: was there to go, but that was rough things. 153 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: I don't advise anybody to do that. 154 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 3: Do you do you ever? Did you? 155 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: Did you go back and watch that season or did 156 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: you just be like I gave it the guy, it's. 157 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: Just the hands of the farm. Whatever he decided to do. 158 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: Apparently it was. 159 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 4: It was good enough because they brought me back for 160 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: this apparently something whatever. I will never watch that season. 161 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 4: I hope you very I don't know what I know 162 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 4: what you're saying. I don't watch myself anyway, you know, 163 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 4: but I'm definitely not ever watching that. 164 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: Why don't you watch yourself? 165 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 2: You know? I don't know. 166 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: I think it's because I know you can probably identify 167 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 4: with this the over Cheever in us, it's going to 168 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 4: always think that we could do something better, and so 169 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 4: I don't want to continue to put that pressure on me. 170 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 4: I feel that I know some people and it's not vanity. 171 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 4: I don't blame people for watching the self back. It's 172 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 4: just for me. I need to be able to say 173 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 4: I did my job and hopefully everybody likes it without 174 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 4: being too highly critical of myself because I have I 175 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 4: got a whole bunch of other stuff going on the 176 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 4: word about anyway, but that there is something that I 177 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 4: just try not to do because I know that I 178 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 4: can be critical of myself. So it's almost like I 179 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 4: want to bid like gracefully and then have you all 180 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: or whoever's watching, just enjoy it. And the one thing 181 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: that I'm more concerned about is who it was able 182 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: to reach and if they laugh and they had a 183 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 4: good time, you know whatever, not me, because you know, 184 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 4: sometimes you'll look at me be like faun like to 185 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 4: relate mine. 186 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know this is this. So I just 187 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 3: try to. 188 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 4: Be now in the moment, you know, and just lay 189 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 4: it out there, let it be what it is, care 190 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 4: and then I just move on. 191 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: You know. 192 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that. I totally understand that. One thing 193 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: I like about you, Danny, from when I first met you, 194 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: you have what I call you might be one of 195 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: the most natural born hustlers I've ever met in my life. 196 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 5: I'm trying to I don't don't curse me like that. 197 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: Thank you care. 198 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 4: But also I don't know what listening thinking that that's 199 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 4: that's my fortune. 200 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if you are a necessity hustling, if you 201 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: find a man in your dreams, you ain't got the 202 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: hustle no more, but. 203 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 4: You have Oh she could go get it delete like. 204 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: No, so you don't want to hustle no more. 205 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: I don't. 206 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 4: Go. 207 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: Well, I just think I was I was curious about 208 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: like where that came from, because it's like when you 209 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: you were YouTube, you social media, you TV, sell books, 210 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: mother content like you have done what's necessary, uh, and 211 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: I think you know buy and large for creators like 212 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: you and I in this industry at this time. Unfortunately 213 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: for us, it doesn't seem like we can just be 214 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: on TV like back in the nineties, all you have 215 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: to do is you booked that TV show. You don't 216 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: got to do nothing but that show and the press 217 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: for that show. We be having to be on the 218 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: show and then bring our audience to the show and 219 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: keep up with content to keep our audience on social 220 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: media and gay without a show like It's it feels 221 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: like way more than you know, people of previous generations 222 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: had to do, Like you know, and we're getting less 223 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: episodes of the TV shows than they used to get, 224 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: less residuals and things like that. 225 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: Like how do you navigate how many hats you have 226 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 3: to wear to be a creator? 227 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: Even though you've been on TV, you still have to 228 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: do your own you know, you still have to do 229 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: your own stuff. 230 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'm gonna answer your first question, like where 231 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 4: the hustle came from. The hustle came from survival mode, 232 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: Like just people don't know my full story, and so 233 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 4: I have a very layered story, and so my hustle 234 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 4: came from being out of my parents' house at fifteen sixty. 235 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 4: You know, and so my household was very interesting. And 236 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 4: I've always been a person I didn't know. I didn't 237 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: even know now that I've had some good therapy, I 238 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 4: didn't even know what that was about. 239 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: But there was situations in my house that. 240 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 4: I just at that time, at that end a just 241 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: was like, this is this, this can't be good. And 242 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,119 Speaker 4: although people admired my father, he was something okay. 243 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 2: And so I remember my dad was like, you know, 244 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: maybe not was you gonna get out? 245 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 4: I was like, you know, me, I some trains plants, 246 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 4: some black trash bangs and I took it. 247 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 2: You know, I shall one putting later of me. 248 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 4: And so you know when I left home at the time, 249 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: that's kind of like what's spark things. So I've had 250 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 4: so many different types of hustles. I used to do hair. 251 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 4: I was a finger, you know all that. When I 252 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 4: went to college, I was still working. So I worked 253 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: for a very very very long time. And so it's 254 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: kind of like all that I know is to do that. 255 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: But as you know, the Lord, when you knew the work, 256 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: the Lord will shift you into all the other things 257 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 4: that you're actually supposed to do. 258 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,479 Speaker 2: And I think that then that really. 259 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 4: Cultivated the drive that I have now having to work 260 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 4: like that at that age, you know what I mean, 261 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 4: It's like at this point, you ain't gonna outwork me. 262 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: That's just what it is. 263 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 4: So I know what it feels like to have to survive, 264 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: and so I don't think that many people talk about 265 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 4: the survival is instinct that kicks in that makes you 266 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: want to put things in to drive every single day 267 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 4: because you know what it feels like not to have 268 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 4: and because you said TV is not guarantee all those 269 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 4: things that I are not guaranteed for, you have to consistently, 270 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 4: you know, do the work. 271 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: Even now it's like when you a ride. 272 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 4: The work, not even a ride, but when you get 273 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: to certain goals, it's like the goal post has always moved, 274 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like you're never able to 275 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 4: really truly be settled because you're like, I'm gonna work 276 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 4: and get on TV. And then now you do TV, 277 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: and TV ain't TV like it used to be no 278 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 4: more so now you got it's like the goal post 279 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: consistently moves, and so you're never able to truly like rest, 280 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like you can rest, but 281 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 4: like in your nervous system. 282 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: It's never a full like complete settlement, right, you know 283 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: what I mean. 284 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: It's like and I think the higher achiever in us 285 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 4: is like, it's never good enough. You know, nothing's ever 286 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 4: good enough. I did that, Now what's the next thing? 287 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 4: Instead of being like, I want to enjoy what this 288 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 4: thing is right now. So that is something I'm definitely 289 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 4: working on. But it's like you can never get complacent 290 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: because there's always things that are ever evolving in our industry, 291 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 4: so you have to keep trying to figure out what's 292 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 4: the next thing so you can take stay on top 293 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 4: of the things because you got a family. I have 294 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 4: child to take care of, you know, all those things, 295 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 4: and so I'm like, y'll tie. But you know, it's 296 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: that drive, that hustle from my teenage years kind of 297 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 4: just I feel like God knew what he was doing, 298 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: putting that in me so that I could continue to 299 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: move forward even what I'm doing. 300 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: That I want to take a quick break from the 301 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: show and hear from our SPONSORIL do you think you 302 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: will ever fully relaxed? 303 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: Because I think about myself, like I didn't have to 304 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: leave at fifteen, but I had to move out at 305 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, nineteen and remember my dad said to me, 306 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, my first apartment, I ain't had the rent 307 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: the first month I was and I needed to borrow 308 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: two hundred bucks with my dad, and he said, the 309 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: world only cares about you as much as you pay 310 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: your bills on time. And that thing stuck with me forever. 311 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: I never have asked my dad for a dime since. 312 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: And he didn't even say he was like, I can't 313 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: help you, like not on something like I got to 314 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: make a man out of you, but like he was, 315 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: he had orders to go to Spain and my mom 316 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: and sister were moving out past, so he was like, 317 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: I gotta maintain two households. I can't maintain three. You 318 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: you could have went to a passhole, I could have 319 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: squared your way, but I can't help you. And that 320 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: one conversation and that one answer was like set me 321 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: on a path that I don't think i'll ever recover from. 322 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: To your point, do you think that that fifteen year 323 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: old moving out a fifteen year old change your trajectory 324 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: to where even if you have have I mean, obviously 325 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: you've had a lot of success, in the back of 326 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: your mind you feel like I still gotta go get 327 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 1: it I still got to go get I still got 328 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: to go get it, you know. 329 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 4: Not now, not anymore, because I just feel like and 330 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: I ain't even to go deep. But you know me, 331 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 4: you love the Lord. I just feel like there is 332 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 4: power in resting and not trying to outwork the Lord 333 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 4: because you never will. 334 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: And what I have found. 335 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 4: Is in my it's almost like I had no choice 336 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 4: but to sit down in certain seasons of my life 337 00:17:59,119 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 4: and just. 338 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: Let God do what he had to do within me. 339 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: And in those seasons, cav I will tell you, that's 340 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 4: when I got the best ideas. That's when I got 341 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 4: the best strategies. It was like I always say, God 342 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 4: is the ultimate businessman. 343 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 2: He really is. Everything you need is in his word. 344 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: He is such a great strategist. 345 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 4: And sometimes it takes you having to sit down for 346 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 4: a month, you know, whatever that is. And I know 347 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 4: a lot of people can't afford to do that, but 348 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: you know, if you have residual income from YouTube and 349 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: all that stuff like how we work with content, you know, 350 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 4: it can't afford you sometimes of being able to kind 351 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 4: of just be like, I have no choice but to 352 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 4: do this or I'm not going to be well, you 353 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, So if it was in those 354 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 4: moments that I kind of got a piece from the 355 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 4: Lord and he was like, you will never be able 356 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 4: to outwork me, never, And obedience is also risk, you 357 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And so I can't get a 358 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 4: hold of you to give you the things that you 359 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 4: asked me for if you don't sick, you know, And 360 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 4: that's not five minutes, that's not ten minutes. People are like, 361 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 4: I do my days, devotions, I do all this. We 362 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 4: would get so much strategy from God if we allow 363 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 4: him to pull it for into us. 364 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: But that is a full pause, like it really is. 365 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: And sometimes I look. 366 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I just want some times some people 367 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 4: to trust that what you think you are doing, you're 368 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 4: really running on your own clock. And God, it's like 369 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: I'm over here waiting on you to just come to 370 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 4: me for the strategy that's gonna make you not have 371 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 4: to do all that, you know what I mean. So 372 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 4: that's that's kind of like where I'm kind of then 373 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 4: care where it's like, Okay, what what you want? Because 374 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 4: because because because Castine I got the story. Now Castine, 375 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 4: I can't afraid to be wrong, you know what, I'm saying, 376 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 4: so what what what? 377 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: What? What do you need to do? 378 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, you tonight to take a 379 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 4: break from all this right here impossible a little while 380 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 4: to kind of retell from whatever. 381 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna do that, you know. 382 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 4: So now I don't because I remember therapist saying like, 383 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 4: when you work like that, you're still back at the 384 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 4: age that you actually that actually broke you and age 385 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 4: you want to do that, So you're still working from 386 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 4: your teenage years, you know. And so I had to 387 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 4: kind of really walk that thing down. So now it's like, okay, 388 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 4: what what you want to do that? That's just where 389 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 4: I am. He had to beat me down to get there. 390 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 4: So I'm no longer like hi strong, you know what 391 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 4: I mean and feeling like I have to just go 392 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 4: go go go go push push push push push now 393 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 4: because I deserve this, like pause to you know, I 394 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 4: deserve it. 395 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: I've been going a long time, and. 396 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 4: So I think it developed a big amount of burnout 397 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 4: in me, you know, where I didn't have the passion 398 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 4: for even what I'm doing now. 399 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: It just left. 400 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 4: And it's because because of that. So now I am 401 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 4: don't put that on me man. 402 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: No, I don't put it on you know more, I 403 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: do want to double back to something you said. You 404 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: said you don't want to be you don't want to 405 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: make that same mistake no more. What are some of 406 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: the mistakes you've made? I know you mentioned I know 407 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: you were developing products early on and you got scammed, 408 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: Like what happened more than once. 409 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm still working this side in the lawsuit. See 410 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 4: you got the exclusive. 411 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: You can let me tell me, tell me what's going on. 412 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 4: We talked about it publicly, but yes, now I have 413 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 4: people in my life that know about this. But it 414 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 4: was such an embarrassing thing, and I think that people 415 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 4: should do their due diligence when it comes down to copackers, 416 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 4: especially for food products. But I realized in talking to 417 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 4: other people, this is a common thing. There are people 418 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 4: that don't even do food products. Just maybe do you 419 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 4: know sports strings whatever is kind of that maybe is 420 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 4: a beverage. So yeah, but you know, an the other 421 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 4: things like merge or whatever that is, this is kind 422 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 4: of like a common thing with certain manufacturers or whatever. 423 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 4: But in the food space absolutely, And so you know, 424 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 4: I had launched my product line, it was doing great, 425 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 4: and that I had to shift to another copacker because 426 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 4: when I was using at the time was a little smaller. 427 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: And because you explain what a packer is to people 428 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 3: who don't know. 429 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: So a co. 430 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 4: Packer is the people that the manufacturer that actually makes 431 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 4: your food products for you. So they you give me 432 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 4: your recipe, they formulated stamp, they sample it with you, 433 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 4: you know, tweak it, they bottle it, they label it. 434 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 2: All the stuff that's in the grocery store is coming 435 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: from a copacker. 436 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: Got so you developed the product and show them how 437 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: to make it and then they yeah, it's like. 438 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: You're like, this is my recipe for my spicey. 439 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 4: They you send it to them, they'll scale it up 440 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 4: and they'll say, hey, okay, we're going to see you 441 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 4: scamp samples of this because people don't know if you 442 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 4: make a spice beIN at home, when it goes to 443 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 4: a manufacturing getting scaled up, it can completely change the taste. 444 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, everything, it's not just because they're making it 445 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: in bulk and at a commercial Yeah. 446 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 4: And so I had to switch to another co packer 447 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 4: because the one that I had was more boutique style 448 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 4: and this one was. 449 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: Didn't you be right? 450 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 4: I think that we should talk about. And I don't 451 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 4: know if we can talk about this here. I mean, 452 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 4: you know, it's you. You can be talking about everything, 453 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 4: but I also need to feel like and I don't 454 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 4: want to hide behind this, but there is definitely discrimination 455 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 4: in food copacking when it comes down to people of color. 456 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: I know this for a fact. This is not what 457 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 4: I think. This is what I know. This is why 458 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 4: you don't see a lot of black own or minority 459 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 4: brands in grocery store, specifically black holes, because it is 460 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 4: very difficult for us to actually find dependable co packers 461 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 4: that work with you to do what they say they're 462 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 4: going to do or whatever. So this copacker came recommended 463 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: by what woman they have just fout. 464 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, So you can't tell me. 465 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 4: And I don't like to howe behind that, you know, 466 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 4: I don't like to play the race card if it's 467 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 4: not necessary. 468 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: But this so I know they did. 469 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: Her right and they didn't do me right for whatever 470 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 4: reason that was. And so I was getting stuff and 471 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 4: the taste wasn't the same, you know, it was just 472 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 4: so much was going on. So I'm like, okay, well 473 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 4: you could just give me my money back. I had 474 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 4: already done. I had done pre orders. But then I 475 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 4: was like, okay, those are pre orders. That's gone. But 476 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 4: now I'm gonna just go out. Now, I'm gonna give 477 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 4: it all I got. I never got my stuff. 478 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: They even send your stuff back. 479 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: They ain'tven stent my stuff. 480 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 3: Now, oh my god. So where they kept the stuff 481 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 3: and the money. 482 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 4: Yet, So that I paid for a shipment to come in, 483 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 4: that was over. I'm gonna say, oh, I'm gonna say this, 484 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 4: oh my hondred grand and. 485 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 3: Us and just accounting with guys that six dollars six fifty. 486 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: Nine fifty nine, Yes. 487 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 5: When you got a baby out home, that nied Caprice 488 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 5: Sons and dog food. 489 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 4: That's all I was thunkball and doing everything else around 490 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 4: here and acting like a pursy, you know, I had 491 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: stopped to do, you know, and so. 492 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: Yes, but it was over that. 493 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 4: Okay, I'll just give you a digestible amount. But I 494 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 4: lost I almost lost everything because of that. 495 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 496 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I almost like lost everything because that I had went. 497 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 4: So that's why said I gave you an amountain you too, because. 498 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: I already know. 499 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 2: That your honey. 500 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 4: But but god, yeah, and so I literally almost lost 501 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 4: everything because I was like, I'm gonna throw my whole 502 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 4: weight at this. Wasn't irresponsible, probably so, but because I 503 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 4: had such a great but you know. 504 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: What idea is gonna change the war. 505 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: You're talking to a man who who made his own 506 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: app and was convinced I was gonna take down Netflix. 507 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 3: You know I'm coming for you. 508 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: Go no on me, I've got to come. The blacks 509 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: show up. It's about to be a same let's go. 510 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 3: That was me. 511 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, well, throw your whole weight at it. Yeah, 512 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 4: I'm taking a chance, like I'm spending the gonna pay. 513 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, in Jesus name thunding. 514 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 3: Now you don't. 515 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: It's already done Heaven, we take it over. 516 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: We're all I'm going up the grocery store house. 517 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: It's mad yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, claiming and 518 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: claiming this space spirit. 519 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, we're gonna I'm telling you. You know what 520 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 4: I'm talking about, because you're just saying that what you 521 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 4: said that app. 522 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 3: Understand Yeah, And I mean. 523 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 4: I did, And I just because because the first one 524 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 4: had done so well, you know. So I'm like, and 525 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 4: this came from someone that does milt. Somebody recommended me 526 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 4: that does millions with this coba, so yeah, I'm thinking 527 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 4: it's a trusted source. 528 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 2: So I'm like, but you. 529 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 3: Could never happen to me. 530 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 4: And after that, I just, honey, it was nothing but 531 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 4: the grace of God that has me even sitting in 532 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 4: front of his camera today, because when I tell you, 533 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 4: that was an insane amount. 534 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 2: Of grief that took over my life. 535 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 536 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 4: I don't think that we talk about career grief enough, 537 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 4: you know, and the things that happened in our careers 538 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 4: that aren't like moments like if I'm greatful you have 539 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 4: this podcast, because not your base moments come with an 540 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 4: insane amount of grief after. 541 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 3: That tremendous yeah depression. 542 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: It is not uncommon because you you you making you know, 543 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: you could be by yourself and you could still have 544 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: that level of grief, but you're a parent. You you 545 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: make that mistake. When I made it, my miss not 546 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,239 Speaker 1: catastrophic mistake. I feel like, not only did I make 547 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: a mistake and was I taken advantage of I've also 548 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: put my family in jeopardy and I also trusted my gut. 549 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: Now is my gut like now I don't even know 550 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: if I could trust myself, Like, if I messed up 551 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: that much, how do I get back out there? 552 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 3: What's up? 553 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 4: Now? 554 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: I don't No, I don't trust nobody. 555 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: Now I'm paranoid, you know, like there's a tremendous of 556 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: It takes a long time to like get back to yourself, 557 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: get back to trusting yourself. If you ever do, some 558 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: people never return. 559 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: This just happened to me again this year because I'm 560 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 4: stupid enough to go get damn now I won't. 561 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: But it wasn't that much though I took a small 562 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: it ain't coming. 563 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 4: Because I was like, God, I thank you for learning 564 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 4: that trial holler in jujija. Okay, God, now I got wisdom. 565 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 4: Moved to textics so that I can do it again. 566 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm going, I'm go downside my bills. I'ma 567 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 4: the lord. It is because by being I'm grateful. But 568 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 4: it was like sink or swim. I'm like, I'm going 569 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 4: up to see my bit. They will I will. 570 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: Not be defeated. 571 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: You will not. 572 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: You know how we get I'm won't go do this be. 573 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 4: In such a deep depression that I was just like 574 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 4: it was so embarrassing, you know, it was and I 575 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 4: didn't want to. I didn't want to come to your birthday. Truth, 576 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 4: and I can't do none of this. I can't you know, people, 577 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 4: I can't do anything anymore. It just really devastated me. 578 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 4: And so move moved to Texas because I was greatful. Okay, 579 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 4: So I'm like, okay, we come and here the saint 580 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 4: this business. 581 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: Jus, Danny, you so funny and it ain't even funny. 582 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: How funny you are you? It ain't even funny. How 583 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: you so funny? And country you be saying phrases I swear. 584 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: I act like I know what you said, Danny. I 585 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: couldn't even hear you. Clear you that country get in you. 586 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: I'll be like, I know, I got the context clues, 587 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, but something in the milk ain't clear. 588 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: You get to Danny Rose, and I'd be like, I 589 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: got you, but I ain't got you. 590 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: But there's a thing here. 591 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 4: And then I met someone who was in the copaking 592 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 4: space and what they took over their copaking. So then 593 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna actually do that. 594 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 4: And so they had gotten burned by another copak. It's 595 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: very it's popular, it really is. I see somebody right 596 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 4: now Instagram working with the Copacca that burned me. And 597 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 4: I ain't said a thing because the Lord said, I'm 598 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 4: telling them give you exclusive. 599 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: I ain't saying nothing because they got to go through 600 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: their trials just like I did. 601 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 3: And you can't hit them on the side of be like, 602 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: you know. 603 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: Just just slide in the DMI because they may. 604 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: Not have that same experience, you know. 605 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 4: So you know, I don't want to tank their experience, 606 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 4: but you know it's a very common thing. And so 607 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 4: I boot take and try to do that. Then the 608 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 4: boat was like, no, we're gonna pivot you to something 609 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 4: miss Hoole polls. So that was I mean, when I 610 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: tell you, I did not know how I was going 611 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 4: to mentally recover. And so to go back to what 612 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 4: you were talking about as being content creators and all that, 613 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 4: it wasn't no shows coming in, and it wasn't that. 614 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 4: If I didn't have, you know, my YouTube channel and 615 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 4: all these other things, my ebooks, all those things that 616 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 4: I appreciate my audience and my community for supporting and 617 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 4: showing up, I don't know how we I would have 618 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 4: bounced back from that. That's why I feel like it's 619 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 4: so important to have your platform, you know what I mean, 620 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 4: and build your community because they will support you in 621 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 4: so many ways. But every time I had to send 622 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: out of emails and I'm customer, I was like, it 623 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 4: was it was humiliating. 624 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 2: But you know, I just I. 625 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 4: Went back to therapy and I really kind of just 626 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 4: got myself together and it took a lot of prayer. 627 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: And still, you know how it feels, you're still kind 628 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: of scarred from that. 629 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 4: You're, yeah, I look back, I'll be like, get this 630 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 4: cake box out of my face, food product, and that's 631 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 4: so different from me care because I just knew, you 632 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 4: know what I mean, I just knew. And if the 633 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 4: Lord brings it around again, I'll be fair or breakful, 634 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 4: but it's gonna have taken the tape. I mean, two 635 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 4: drops of my blood and arm and baby, I'm gonna 636 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 4: have to turn me to lastin right, because I'm telling you, 637 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 4: I don't think it. It was a dream of mine. 638 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 4: And I think the grief that comes with that is 639 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 4: like it was a dream of mine. And I feel 640 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 4: like I fell tremendously and humiliated myself and over and over. 641 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: But this second time, though, I was I was a 642 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: little smart. 643 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: Hey, guys taking a quick commercial break. We'll be right back. 644 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: I want to touch on that therapy part because I 645 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: think it's so important. I went to therapy about stuff 646 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: I was dealing with on social media as well. I 647 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: think people don't talk about the toll it can take 648 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: for being a visible, a highly visible public figure, that 649 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: amount of most people can't deal or don't want to 650 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: deal with any negativity in their life. Right, but you, 651 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, you and I and creators who are highly visible, 652 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: we often have to deal with hundreds of thousands of 653 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 1: people being negative negativity every single day. Like how do you? 654 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: How did you? How did therapy help pull you out 655 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: of that? Because I imagine being a highly visible or 656 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: a famous or celebrity figure, everything is magnified. You don't 657 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: just make the mistake. You make the mistake and it's trending. 658 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: You make the mistake and you're on somebody's podcasts. You 659 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: make a mistake and a gossip blog is picked it 660 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: up or a gossip site, so now it's unavoidable. Like 661 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: how did you recover? Like how did the therapy help 662 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: you recover from that aspect? 663 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 4: Well, my therapist did her job, but I feel like 664 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 4: because of my faith. 665 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 2: I have to always go back to God. 666 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 3: Man like you could talk about the Lord. 667 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: To listen, there's one sentence, You're ready. 668 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 3: For what I'm ready for it God, period? 669 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: How many how many ways you want me to say. 670 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 3: Y'all don't know your whole genre? 671 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 4: It was. I think for us people like you and I, 672 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 4: it takes a combination of folks, you know what I mean. 673 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 4: And I think we can't be heavenly bound with no 674 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 4: earthly good. We have to have both. And so my 675 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 4: families is actually able to put things into perspective from 676 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 4: as you like church people say. 677 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 2: Carnal sad, you know, from the human. 678 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 4: Side of being able to what I what I learned 679 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 4: is like it's just projection a lot of times it's. 680 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 2: Not even you know, what people are saying. 681 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 4: Can come from deep rooted places and despair and all 682 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 4: those things that we have to deal with from the 683 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 4: negativity part of it. But then the Lord has had 684 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 4: to kind of like I would say, do you like 685 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 4: a little spiritual surgery within me to make me stronger 686 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 4: for because I was like, you know, if you can 687 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 4: be real deep, if Jesus can bed and cross, you 688 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, like, really if he really can 689 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 4: do what he had to do, when we are so 690 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 4: deserving of it, why do we feel that we are 691 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 4: we should be eliminated from that, you know what I'm saying, 692 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 4: like it's it's gonna come with the territory. 693 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 2: But I want to touch on this. 694 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 4: What people don't know is that I'm not really this 695 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 4: extroverted person. So to go back to what you're talking 696 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 4: about and having to show up in public space all 697 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 4: the time, I am this way with people that I'm 698 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 4: comfortable with, but I'm really not a super extroverted person. 699 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 4: Like it takes me a lot to recharge, you know. 700 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 4: So that's the point. That's the part of our platform 701 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 4: in our career that I kind of struggle with, you know, 702 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 4: Like I get a show or I can do a 703 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 4: YouTube video, I'm like, oh I'm out for ten days. 704 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 4: Who good God, I'm you know what I mean, I 705 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 4: can go, I have to, you know, I really do it. 706 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 4: As I'm getting older, I realized that it takes a 707 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 4: lot for me to have to repair myself from even 708 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 4: showing up in public space. 709 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 2: And I think it's because. 710 00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 4: We we're front facing and we know the people lack there. 711 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 4: Although although they support us. A lot of them may 712 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 4: not have my best interests, but the people that we're 713 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 4: comfortable with, like you have your wife, you have your family, 714 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 4: whatever they care, that was the space that we can 715 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 4: recharge it or just in your n you know. And 716 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 4: it takes that for me now. You know, back then 717 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 4: I was a little bit more extroverted. But I think 718 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 4: I don't I don't even know what that is. Maybe 719 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 4: I should walk that down in therapy, like why have 720 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 4: I become a little bit more reserved, because that's where 721 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 4: I'm at. If I got to do a show, I'm 722 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 4: tell you right now, I got to sit down just 723 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 4: prepare to do it mentally and I enjoying it, you know, 724 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 4: And where I am now, I want to do things 725 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 4: that I just really enjoyed at this Yeah you know 726 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like I want to die deep dive 727 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 4: into things that I really really enjoyed it that fuel. 728 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: Me now because I feel like I've given and you 729 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 2: can relate to this. 730 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 4: You give so much, you you know, it's like always 731 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 4: poor out, pouring out, pouring out, and so now I'm 732 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 4: like I got to really figure out what that is 733 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 4: for me that makes me feel rejuvenated that that has worked. 734 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 2: But don't you know, people like don't feel like work. 735 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, what is that? 736 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 2: What makes me? 737 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 4: You know, like, yeah, I don't feel like work. What's 738 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 4: in Because in the beginning of my career, can it 739 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 4: feel like work? It didn't look like a bigger opportunities. 740 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 4: It kind of started to take you. You start overthinking, 741 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 4: you start doing all these things now. But before with me, 742 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 4: it was just like, all right, whatever, But when you 743 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 4: get on networks and stuff, it's a little bit more control. 744 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 4: It was this and you know, I was loose canning 745 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 4: when I first started. So I'm like, I'm gonna write this, 746 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 4: you know, And I had to really learn how to 747 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 4: process that. So now I'm in a space where I'm 748 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 4: just like, I want to be free again, you know 749 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 4: what I mean. And I have fun on social media, 750 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 4: and I want to because social media is supposed to 751 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 4: be fun. We have put this, you know, I want 752 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 4: to say this. I can't say you got the easiest job. 753 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 4: You're the content creators that can just get up there 754 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,439 Speaker 4: and jump with your phone and just and I gotta 755 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 4: set up a kitchen. 756 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: I gotta do these and you know I have to 757 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: do so when I went to your set. I said, 758 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, you you it takes hours of prep 759 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 1: time talout. I'm talking about to even do something that 760 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: don't have to go into the oven, right you want 761 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: to you making a peanut, but you made when we 762 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: did your one of your cooking shows. It never dawned 763 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: on me that when they go on TV, they put 764 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 1: that in the oven and when they taken out that 765 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 1: there's a. 766 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 3: Cooked one in there. 767 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just watching TV, Like obviously I know like 768 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: they pre cooked it, but I'm not thinking about you 769 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: gotta cook that thing twice three times. 770 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 4: You TV is a wizard of box man, it really is. 771 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 2: And it takes a lot of a lot. It takes. 772 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 4: You can work, you know, you can work with a 773 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 4: small team, but like if you're doing things that take 774 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 4: a long time to cook, like hot rolls store, you 775 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 4: know you gotta and don't talk about the grocery bill 776 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 4: on that. And you know I sell fun stuff, so 777 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 4: it's kind of I'm guying three and four roasts at 778 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 4: one time. Man, you all can get a twenty minute 779 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 4: recipe you cooking. 780 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: The food ahead of time. Because when I was on 781 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: set with you, you you pre you cooked it. Then 782 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: you had to go and recook it, or at least 783 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: prep it to be cooked on the show, while hosting, 784 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: you talking it through. And then after that's done, you 785 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: gotta go change it. Not to mention, you got to 786 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: get your makeup done, change clothes, go do another thing. 787 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: And this is with the help you had, you had 788 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: a team, and it still was all that. And when 789 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: I left, I said, I said I would never do 790 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: a food shot in my life. 791 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 3: I did. I said, oh, my absolutely not. I couldn't 792 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 3: imagine the amount of work. No, oh that is not 793 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 3: God's plan for my life. Too much work. Way there. 794 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 4: Imagine doing all that before a team by yourself for years, 795 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 4: for years, I was on my own four years. So 796 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 4: now when I'm like, you can't tell me nothing, no 797 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 4: cooking show, you can't tell me nothing, I can run 798 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 4: circles around you. And it comes down to a food 799 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 4: produced team and a cooking show, you know, And I 800 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 4: feel like they should get like, I'm gonna just say this. 801 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 2: I am. 802 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 4: I wonder why we don't have, you know, because I 803 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 4: think like we have so many other shows on like 804 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 4: the Black Networks and stuff like that, or whenever there 805 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 4: are no black food shows. Because I think that they 806 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 4: don't have the right people in the room. I'm just 807 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 4: gonna say, creating a food show, you experienced it, so 808 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 4: we can talk about it. It is not the same 809 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 4: as creating other style shows. 810 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 2: You've got to have. 811 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 4: People in there that know who know an audience, know 812 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 4: how to cook, know how to do It's not the same. 813 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,760 Speaker 4: And I think that they don't call the right people 814 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 4: in the room to actually help them formulate the shows. 815 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 4: And they want mimic like what another network who's like Disney. 816 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 2: It's a machake for them. You know, you have to 817 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 2: get the right people. 818 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 4: And that kind of greeves me that we don't have 819 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 4: those styles of shows because I'm like, y'all, they like 820 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 4: they don't do well, they will do well. You can't 821 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 4: tell me that they won't do well when I have 822 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 4: millions and millions and millions of strings people watch me, 823 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 4: people watching people cook. You know, people want to see that. 824 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 4: It's a matter of just getting the right people in 825 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 4: the room. And I think until that happens, we're just 826 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 4: gonna have to be cooking. 827 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 3: On you too, and that's at least the people can get. 828 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 1: I actually heard your voice before I met you, because 829 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: my wife will be playing your thing. 830 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 3: I said, man, that lady is funny, and then the 831 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:55,439 Speaker 3: food will be good. 832 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: But I listen you. You deserve your flowers and your kudos. 833 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: You are are one of one people I've ever met 834 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: or spent any time with and on social media. You 835 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: ain't ain't nobody ain't nobody knows Danny Rose. Ain't no 836 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: other Danny Rose. There's a lot of other people do 837 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: a lot of things, but ain't know Danny Rose. Before 838 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: we let you go, let people know if they are 839 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: finding out about you for the first time, let them 840 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 1: know where they can find you, or what you got 841 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: going or anything you like to say that people say 842 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: at the end of podcast. 843 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 4: After all that, Yeah, at the end of the year. Okay, 844 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 4: so you know I'm gonna be pivoting to the other 845 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 4: space that's still see. Man, I'm gonna give it all 846 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 4: night gat. You know I'm saying that we don't know 847 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 4: where God got is stol. You know what I'm saying. 848 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 4: But I plan to retire this year, so I'm gonna 849 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 4: pivot into other spaces. 850 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 2: You never know, in the podcast space. 851 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 3: Huh. I thought you were being silly, daddy, You being 852 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 3: for real? Yes, you really Fela retire for food. 853 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 2: Doing things that I don't talk about. I'm like, I 854 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 2: don't yell you. I got a lot. 855 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: Of things that I'm I mean, you can't do anything. 856 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 1: You can't do anything I have told you, And so 857 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: I think. 858 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 4: I think I believe that it's okay. I'm gonna say this. 859 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 4: I have nothing else to prove in that space. I 860 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 4: have nothing else to prove. I've done everything that I 861 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 4: pray you have. 862 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 2: You have I asked for. 863 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 4: I asked for wars, But to tell the war bill 864 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 4: on Food Network is that I asked for. I've worked 865 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 4: with so many networks I've done I work with so 866 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 4: many brands. 867 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,760 Speaker 2: I've done all of these things. I tried to product. 868 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 4: Okay, I said no right now, you know I have 869 00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 4: I'm just like, okay. And it's not that I feel 870 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,919 Speaker 4: like I get a ceiling care, but it's like, you know, 871 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 4: I've done a lot. I've done I've done it. So 872 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 4: there are just other things that I want to do 873 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 4: now and I will stay in this space. I will say, uh, 874 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 4: probably to the end of the year. And there are 875 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 4: other things that I just think that I'm really good 876 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 4: at that people should see. 877 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 3: You know, you know, you've got a fan of me. 878 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 3: I just told you can do. Stand up. 879 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 2: For them, and you know they want to beat the 880 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:31,879 Speaker 2: bill on neck. 881 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: Go ahead, right, you could just talk though, Let let 882 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: them have the prep chef in the in the pre chef. 883 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 1: You ain't got to you ain't got you ain't got 884 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: to cut the oven on yourself. 885 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 4: Now, No I can, you know I have to do. 886 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 4: But and so that's why I mean, I want to 887 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 4: simplify my life and I want to just do things 888 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 4: that I know I'm really great at. It feels really 889 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 4: good to me now in this season. So I don't 890 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 4: have to stay the press, you know what I'm saying, 891 00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 4: So thank you real quick, get that question on me. 892 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, so I'm not not tomorrow, but I do 893 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 4: like is coming from me in that space, you know, 894 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 4: just in that space, and ain't gonna tell them where 895 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be at. 896 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna be doing next, I'm not 897 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 2: doing I can't. I don't know. 898 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 3: You know, you can do anything that. 899 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 4: The things I am going on that are great and 900 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 4: they feels good to me now, So I enjoy that. 901 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: I love that for you. You know, I will follow you 902 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: wherever you go as well. The people, the roses, the 903 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: rose petals, Oh thank you. 904 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 3: Because. 905 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, the rose pedals will follow you wherever you go 906 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: because you're just a magnetic personality. And also understand the 907 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: you know you. I love performing, But after that, y'all 908 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 1: let me loan. I'm going to that hotel and I'm 909 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: watching TV. 910 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 4: I can't you get a chance to spread your wings, 911 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 4: like you're not pigeonhole. I feel like people have pigeon 912 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 4: hold me and to be just one thing. And it's 913 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 4: like like somebody's arguing. 914 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 2: In the comments of other day they were like, oh, she's 915 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 2: a good brew creator, and another one was like she 916 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:13,240 Speaker 2: can be a ritual creator. She is a ritual Another 917 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 2: way that was like, oh, but she walks, so we 918 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 2: could run, you know. 919 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 3: But you really are in the space though, you know that. 920 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 4: But I feel like that's where, you know, like it's like, okay, 921 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 4: you know, but people have pigeonholed me, and it's like 922 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 4: I can just do so many amazing things, and so 923 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 4: I want to take my audience along with you so 924 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 4: that they understand that you should never let anybody box 925 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 4: you in. 926 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 927 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 4: You and I admire you because you step out and 928 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 4: you do so many wonderful things. Kep Like You're like, 929 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 4: I'm an actor, I'm a comedian. You know, I'm a 930 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 4: podcast host. You got lim podcast all the things, and 931 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 4: so that's that's kind of like where I feel like 932 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 4: I'm gravitating to what I feel full to more doing more, 933 00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, because I know I can, 934 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,800 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I'm ana singer on all these things. 935 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 4: You know, I'm gonna be up to David Brothers somebody. Okay, 936 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:07,959 Speaker 4: I might just come in there and put in mic 937 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 4: okay like Pat and then roke up the stage, you know, 938 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,879 Speaker 4: because I need to die empty, you know what I mean. 939 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 4: And I don't feel like if I just continue just 940 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 4: doing this one thing that I will, I won't be 941 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 4: able to give my all to what I feel I 942 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 4: took the world and you know in general. And so yeah, 943 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 4: so you can find me on YouTube, you can find 944 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 4: me on to all the social platforms. You can find 945 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 4: me now Facebook, I'm coming back. I got about three 946 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 4: hundred one thousand people over there, and I'll never be 947 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 4: over there because my I'm over there, my auntie is 948 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 4: now they be getting on my nerves. 949 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 2: So you know, you know, and so I said, I'm 950 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 2: gonna start listing. 951 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 4: My first my Facebook crew again, but I'm I'm on Instagram, 952 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 4: I'm on YouTube at being Daddy Rose. That's my name 953 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 4: across all platforms and what's coming next day two? 954 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 3: Stay tuned. 955 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: You heard it here first follow Danny Rose. Thank you 956 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 1: for listening to the podcast. Danny Rose is a gym 957 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: and so are you. God bless you. Gotta keep you 958 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 1: and we'll see you at the conference. This has been 959 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: a Unanimous Media original. Not My Best Moment was produced 960 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 1: by iHeart Podcast and Unanimous Media. It was hosted by 961 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 1: me Kevin Fredericks, executive produced by Stephen Curry, Eric Payton 962 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: and Charlotte Sumter. Jet co executive producer Kelenna Maria Cutney. 963 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: The executive producers at iHeart Podcasts are Sean Titne and 964 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: Jason English. This series was produced by Peter Calter and 965 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: Jabari Davis, co producer Kurt Redmond. Special thanks to Stephen 966 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 1: Curry and Will Pierson. Not My Best Moment is a 967 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 1: production of Unanimous Media and iHeart Podcast. For more podcasts 968 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: from my Heart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app. Have 969 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: a podcast, ask or wherever you get your podcasts, h 970 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 3: M HM,