Speaker 1: That's that's okay, because no one here is.
Speaker 2: Well, Hello, teeny Beaters. Nope, it's not it. It's still
Speaker 2: work shopping our names. We will get there at some point,
Speaker 2: I promise, but more importantly, in the meanwhile, this is
Speaker 2: teen Beat with Me Danielle Fischel. It's a podcast where
Speaker 2: I invite interesting people to sit down and chat about
Speaker 2: their upbringings, the glorious and the awkward, all in an
Speaker 2: attempt to pay me back for the years I spent
Speaker 2: on television as a literal kid. It's an easy concept.
Speaker 2: I gave you my childhood. It's time we hear yours.
Speaker 2: And this week I'm hanging out with a reality television
Speaker 2: superstar who's here not only to talk about his formative years,
Speaker 2: but this session will also double as a conduit between
Speaker 2: his generation and mine, with the goal of making me
Speaker 2: cooler by the end of this episode. Twenty eight years old,
Speaker 2: six foot five, this Queensland, Australia native burst onto the
Speaker 2: scene in twenty eighteen as the standout star of New
Speaker 2: Zealand's hit reality dating show Heartbreak Island, leaving with a
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars prize and a newly recognizable name.
Speaker 2: In branding. He then sidestepped the success onto twenty twenty
Speaker 2: one's British dating game show Too Hot to Handle and
Speaker 2: MTV's Match Me If You Can, a prime example of
Speaker 2: celebrity in the always changing media landscape of today. He
Speaker 2: continued to make the unscripted rounds from flori Islava to
Speaker 2: Amazing Raced Australia to Perfect Match, eventually landing on the
Speaker 2: thirty second season of Dancing with the Stars, where he
Speaker 2: helped usher in a new era for them show, one
Speaker 2: that has continued to gain momentum ever since then. He
Speaker 2: made the once impossible transition into traditional acting, appearing in
Speaker 2: last year's The Wrong Paris alongside Miranda Cosgrove and the
Speaker 2: upcoming Horrified with Ron Pearlman, Busy Phillips and Jim Rash.
Speaker 2: And now he's about to raise the ante with his
Speaker 2: own reality dating show, Let's Marry Harry on Netflix, executive
Speaker 2: produced by Alex Cooper of Call Her Daddy Fame, with
Speaker 2: the goal of guiding the serial dater toward a committed,
Speaker 2: long term relationship. He has his own podcast on the
Speaker 2: Unwell Network called Boyfriend Material, but today he's here on
Speaker 2: teen Beat because I have to assume somewhere underneath this
Speaker 2: hot guy facade is an awkward, dorky teenager. You know what,
Speaker 2: It's probably not. It's probably always been cool. Anyway, Welcome
Speaker 2: to the show, Harry Jousey.
Speaker 3: That was the coolest I've ever had.
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 3: Yeah, saying that six of us reality TV superstars Superstar
Speaker 3: said that really it's usually reality TV star. Well, I've
Speaker 3: got the supernow superstar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's supermodel superstars?
Speaker 3: So you really like did you say?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just supply by night operation?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 2: This is iHeart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the big this is a.
Speaker 2: Serious building, as you called it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so cool. I feel really official.
Speaker 2: You should and you're very cool. You should you should
Speaker 2: be you should feel cool?
Speaker 3: Wow? What do I do now? It's so fun?
Speaker 2: Am I right? Have you always been cool?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I was terrible.
Speaker 4: I was such a little Yeah, a little sausage.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to need some more explanation about that.
Speaker 2: What's a little sausage?
Speaker 3: I just feel like sausage is like a universal word
Speaker 3: and I just say it for everything.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what does it mean in terms of what
Speaker 2: you were like as a child? You little sausage?
Speaker 3: Can I swear you sure can.
Speaker 4: Okay, cool, because I was gonna say it was a
Speaker 4: little ship.
Speaker 2: Okay, got it. Yeah that makes sense to me. A
Speaker 2: little sausage. I needed explanation. You say a little shit,
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 3: Okay cool. Yeah, No I usually say sausage for like
Speaker 3: anything bad. But yeah, I was a little ship growing
Speaker 3: up like I was. I grew up in central Queensland, Australia,
Speaker 3: in this small town called Jupoon, and the closest city
Speaker 3: is Rockhampton, which is the beef capital of Australia.
Speaker 2: So I might say the sausage capital, the sausage capital.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of meat going around over there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The funny thing is like growing up in a place
Speaker 3: like that. You know in school you have like different classes,
Speaker 3: right like New Zealand. When I went to school in
Speaker 3: New Zealand, there's rugby class. Where I grew up, there
Speaker 3: was a bull riding class.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: I never did it because I'm too tall to write
Speaker 3: a ball and also.
Speaker 2: There was a height requirement.
Speaker 3: I don't think, so, oh you're taking up.
Speaker 2: Again. I mentioned it in the We need to lock
Speaker 2: that in as many times as.
Speaker 3: Six or five. But yes, there's like bull writing class
Speaker 3: and then one of my nephews he open Byron Bait
Speaker 3: and there's a second class. It's really cool. I don't
Speaker 3: know if they do that in.
Speaker 2: America, absolutely not.
Speaker 3: We should do it.
Speaker 2: There's bowling. I took bowling, okay, bowling, yeah in college. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: seriously I needed I needed like a one unit class.
Speaker 2: I needed one unit class. And I gotta admit, like bowling,
Speaker 2: I really do. I thought, Yeah, I mean I can be.
Speaker 2: I was that semester.
Speaker 3: How do you get graded on that? Like how do
Speaker 3: you you just show up?
Speaker 2: Surely you just show up and you actually, you know,
Speaker 2: look at listen to the thing they tell you what
Speaker 2: all the dots.
Speaker 3: Mean, and do we know yes, remember I kind of remember.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like where the pins are? You know, you you
Speaker 2: kind of determine your own So you want to keep
Speaker 2: your arm really straight, and so depending on where the
Speaker 2: pins are out there, you actually want to go the
Speaker 2: opposite direction. Like if you've got a pin to your
Speaker 2: right side, you want to go more left then more right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyway, it's yeah, that's very technical, but I want
Speaker 2: to I want to give back to being a little ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah okay, yeah, no, I grew up. I was just
Speaker 3: a very naughty kid growing up. I think the first
Speaker 3: time I got suspended was in grade two. Oh for what,
Speaker 3: I think I threw a desk at a teacher.
Speaker 2: That's not a little thing.
Speaker 3: I think it was that.
Speaker 2: That's not what I definitely do that. At some point
Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say throwing a paper airplane,
Speaker 2: and then you said throwing a desk at a teacher
Speaker 2: or should.
Speaker 3: You be in jail for sure? And I have been oh, wow, No,
Speaker 3: I think I was. It was either a chair or desk,
Speaker 3: but I was very little. It was my first ever
Speaker 3: memory of school. I didn't like the teacher clearly. And
Speaker 3: then me and my friend I think his name was Cody,
Speaker 3: we weren't too good together. We're both very naughty. It
Speaker 3: was farmber State School, very rural school, and yet it
Speaker 3: wasn't really going well.
Speaker 2: That doesn't seem like it. No, what had they done?
Speaker 2: The teacher, this terrible teacher.
Speaker 3: I'm the worst teacher ever. I'm definitely the victim. I'm
Speaker 3: different going. No, I don't remember.
Speaker 4: I just think I was just like a kid.
Speaker 3: I was not very good at following rules, but also like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we had a big problem with that school anyway, So
Speaker 3: it's about time that we left.
Speaker 2: But so what happened for a reason, You were just
Speaker 2: trying to get your family out of there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, out of the trenches. Yeah, no, we to be honest,
Speaker 3: we did have a really bad running with them. So
Speaker 3: I grew up with my parents not wanting us to
Speaker 3: believe in any religion.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: So they had religion forcing them growing up. So they're like,
Speaker 3: when you guys are kids, we just want you to
Speaker 3: believe in whatever you want to believe in, and then
Speaker 3: when you turn eighteen.
Speaker 4: That's what we focus on.
Speaker 3: So like you just do whatever you want. So back
Speaker 3: when I was at school super young, religion was like
Speaker 3: it was kind of mandatory.
Speaker 2: Like part of the curriculum.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. So there was one class and I remember
Speaker 3: this one class was like, oh, you have to sing
Speaker 3: hymns and I was like, oh, my family doesn't want
Speaker 3: me to do that. And I got kicked out of
Speaker 3: the class. And this was I think this was before
Speaker 3: after I think this was before the desk operation. So
Speaker 3: maybe they were trying to do more more deak stuff,
Speaker 3: maybe get me angry. But so I got kicked out
Speaker 3: of class and it turned into a whole thing in
Speaker 3: the news because I went outside and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: what do I do? So I told my parents, like,
Speaker 3: how was school? It was terrible. I kicked out of
Speaker 3: school because I didn't want to sing these hymns. And
Speaker 3: obviously my parents were like, well, you shouldn't be forced
Speaker 3: to do something that we don't believe in. So then, yeah,
Speaker 3: it ended up my I think my parents wade a
Speaker 3: letter the headmaster, and then it escalated, ended up in
Speaker 3: the news. We actually had to leave the country because
Speaker 3: we started getting stalked and we had we had all
Speaker 3: these Christmas cards flood our dress, flood our dress, and
Speaker 3: then horrible threats on us, like horrible, crazy threats on
Speaker 3: my mom saying I remember this, and I shouldn't have
Speaker 3: read it, but I remember this one card said I
Speaker 3: was gonna they were going to put dead rats in
Speaker 3: my mom. Like obviously a lot more detailed than that.
Speaker 3: I should have read it. But we ended up leaving
Speaker 3: the country. We went to Bali, which is a pretty
Speaker 3: good place to escape too. It was beautiful, and I
Speaker 3: remember we came back and there's this news network called
Speaker 3: a Current Affair, and they were on our flight. They're like, yo,
Speaker 3: my mom was like, oh, I've seen you on TV
Speaker 3: and the guy was like like, She's like, why are
Speaker 3: you coming to your poon? So got to interview the Jowsy.
Speaker 3: He's like, we want to get them on on the
Speaker 3: news and tell us how to the story. My mom
Speaker 3: was like, oh, that's us, that's Harry. And then it
Speaker 3: turned into a whole thing, and I remember it was
Speaker 3: the first time I was on TV.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But we had the Prime Minister of Australia, John Howard.
Speaker 3: I think he spoke on it, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 3: We're not like good reasons, like it wasn't any to
Speaker 3: be proud of it. It was pretty wild. And then we
Speaker 3: got dogs by the local news channel too. They came
Speaker 3: to our address. They literally just showed up and I
Speaker 3: remember because I was like, oh, Dad, there's all these
Speaker 3: camera crews in our driveway and my dad just walked
Speaker 3: outside naked. He's like, he said, get out of here
Speaker 3: like this. He's pretty proud. He's got Yeah, that's scary.
Speaker 3: And they left and they said the Jazzys didn't want
Speaker 3: to be on camera, and they panned to our address
Speaker 3: and then number and where it was. So that's I
Speaker 3: think that was.
Speaker 4: Before that was before we left, so we obviously we left.
Speaker 3: Obviously. Now with religion, I've got a way different perspective
Speaker 3: on it. After losing my dad, I was like, I
Speaker 3: should probably believe in something, like it's nice. And I'm
Speaker 3: also twenty eight, so I've started trying to figure out
Speaker 3: what my path is with religion. So all that to
Speaker 3: say is that it was all that drama for no reason,
Speaker 3: because now I believe in something.
Speaker 2: I just try to figure out what kind of what
Speaker 2: your parents were fighting for the right for was for
Speaker 2: you to become an adult and figure it out on
Speaker 2: your own.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's kind of nice. It's nice, yeah, because
Speaker 3: I just remember being a kid and I was like,
Speaker 3: I wish I believed in something because I'd always be
Speaker 3: afraid of death and scam scam me as it scares everyone,
Speaker 3: you know. I'd wake up at them in the night like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I don't know what to do, like
Speaker 3: be crying, and I just wish even if they didn't
Speaker 3: believe it, or even if it's a bit of a
Speaker 3: lie or even like gone into so nice to believe.
Speaker 2: In something, to believe in something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think now that that's when I'm thinking
Speaker 3: about having a family. It's like, oh, I kind of
Speaker 3: want to just have like a soft this is what
Speaker 3: we believe in anyway, So that was that was the
Speaker 3: first kind of trouble growing up.
Speaker 2: I really got to be honest. When I started this
Speaker 2: questioning and you said you threw a desk at a teacher,
Speaker 2: I did not expect the story to end up with
Speaker 2: me actually believing that you were the victim. And I
Speaker 2: was like, wow, that really you are a very persuasive storyteller,
Speaker 2: because I actually think that teacher probably deserves it.
Speaker 3: I remember that was just a first memory I had
Speaker 3: of being naughty at school. And then I remember I
Speaker 3: left that school after all the religion stuff, and I
Speaker 3: went to a different school and yupun State School, and
Speaker 3: that was cool. I remember that was a lot of fun,
Speaker 3: but we were still Me and my brother would get
Speaker 3: bullied about the religion stuff. It would be so wild
Speaker 3: that kids would kids are so mean. But it was
Speaker 3: like very formative.
Speaker 2: Did you guys describe your self as atheist or no?
Speaker 2: Just exactly so just non denominational.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't even know. Like that was the thing
Speaker 3: that people be like, oh you have this or that.
Speaker 3: I don't even know and that was kind of nice,
Speaker 3: but it would always get bullied about, like Christmas Christmas
Speaker 3: because you.
Speaker 2: Didn't celebrate any holidays then either, no, we didn't, but.
Speaker 3: My mom was kind of cheeky. So obviously after Christmas
Speaker 3: is Boxing Day, so she would go get all the
Speaker 3: sales and she'd be like, we're doing New Year's celebration
Speaker 3: instead of which is nice. Yeah, so we would I
Speaker 3: tell everyone we got more presents, but another think we
Speaker 3: did because my mom just wanted to get the deal right.
Speaker 2: She just wanted to say maybe she.
Speaker 3: Does believe it religion, and that was the whole thing.
Speaker 2: That was her thank you listen for our kids because
Speaker 2: I have a similar feeling in the sense that I
Speaker 2: really don't want to push my own beliefs onto that
Speaker 2: of my kids. So I tell them that everyone believes
Speaker 2: something different. No one knows for sure, and here's what
Speaker 2: mommy believes, but you can decide if you believe the
Speaker 2: same thing or if you believe something different, And that
Speaker 2: way there's a little bit of a grounding foundation of yes,
Speaker 2: I believe the same thing mommy, or at least just
Speaker 2: putting them putting the thought in their mind that I
Speaker 2: want them to be critical thinkers and that they can
Speaker 2: pick and choose some of the things that ring true
Speaker 2: for them. And these are the things that I believe,
Speaker 2: but I don't know either, like I'm not right and
Speaker 2: if this just because I believe something different than what
Speaker 2: your friend believes doesn't make them wrong.
Speaker 4: So it's so nice to ask questions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I realized. That's what I'm grateful for
Speaker 3: with my parents, is that it's so open for me
Speaker 3: to figure it out and ask questions. Yeah, because I would,
Speaker 3: And I think you see a lot of that with
Speaker 3: people that are kind of like this is how it
Speaker 3: has to be. They get stuck in that, and then
Speaker 3: they grow older and they're like a lot of my
Speaker 3: friends are ex moment. Yeah, they grow older and they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's right. I don't know if
Speaker 3: I believe in that fully or maybe I somewhat believe
Speaker 3: in it, but I don't. And because they were kind
Speaker 3: of stuck in that way, they kind of want it
Speaker 3: on revels, it really unravels. Yeah, So that's why I
Speaker 3: get a bit worried about and I'm again grateful with
Speaker 3: my parents so that I can question everything. Yeah, but yeah, anyway,
Speaker 3: go kicked out of the schools. They go kicked out
Speaker 3: another school.
Speaker 2: And wow, you don't seem like a trouble make me
Speaker 2: come on.
Speaker 3: No, I remember the first time I got suspended, my
Speaker 3: dad said to me, because we grew up in the country,
Speaker 3: he said, you're never going to do this again. You
Speaker 3: have to go and pick up every rock and every
Speaker 3: stick on our property. And that was the worst thing
Speaker 3: ever because we lived on a farm.
Speaker 2: Right, so it was just rocks and sticks everywhere.
Speaker 3: It was all rocks and sticks, right. Yeah, So that
Speaker 3: was and that was for the whole weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like that was your dad's version of
Speaker 2: like wax on wax off.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and you know what, it didn't work because
Speaker 3: I got suspended again.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Was that for a fight club? I know you've been
Speaker 2: pretty vocal about your teenage fight clubs. Were they like official,
Speaker 2: did someone keeping minutes or anything?
Speaker 3: No? Oh, you know how we call them tower fights.
Speaker 3: So you wrap your hands in towels and you punch
Speaker 3: the shit out of each other until the towels fall
Speaker 3: off and that's a round done or until you want
Speaker 3: to stop, okay, And I wasn't. I thought it was
Speaker 3: good at it. I wasn't very good.
Speaker 2: Did you always win.
Speaker 3: This one time? I Most of the times I was
Speaker 3: pretty good. This one time wasn't that good. This big,
Speaker 3: this big.
Speaker 2: Guy, bigger than you. You're six five.
Speaker 3: He was pretty large. He was larger than charge. He
Speaker 3: bounced my head off a wall and it was the
Speaker 3: first time I was like, oh god, I got pretty
Speaker 3: dizzy and I ripped the towels off. I said this,
Speaker 3: I'm going to get him, and then everyone helped me back.
Speaker 3: But then I dated his sister, So I was the
Speaker 3: real winner.
Speaker 2: So you're the real winner. Yeah, our teenage are like,
Speaker 2: it's crazy on which we have in common? Yeah, tower fights,
Speaker 2: of course. Is that the worst injury you had as
Speaker 2: a kid, or did you ever get hurt worse?
Speaker 3: I got any reconstruction at seventeen because I was playing rugby, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: and I had that popped out. I thought it was
Speaker 3: pretty good, not very good, but yeah, I played. So
Speaker 3: I played rugby in Australia and I got tackled from
Speaker 3: behind and the guy like pulled my pulled my shin
Speaker 3: and then my knee kind of shell off my leg
Speaker 3: And that was kind of cool because when you stand
Speaker 3: up full of adrenaline. My knee kept slipping off my
Speaker 3: leg and I was like, what's wrong with me?
Speaker 4: But it was still together. And then my dad was like,
Speaker 4: you wait, get.
Speaker 3: Back out there.
Speaker 2: Your dad has some mean, very hue, a funny guy
Speaker 2: coming out naked telling you to go back out there
Speaker 2: with your knee falling off your legs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think because it wasn't like a crazy hit,
Speaker 3: like it wasn't like right, he didn't know the moment.
Speaker 3: It was just like And also I was built like
Speaker 3: an asparagus, Like I was so skinny and long for
Speaker 3: no reason, and like my like my legs should have
Speaker 3: broken a lot sooner. It wasn't very good. But so
Speaker 3: I went to school in Australia, got kicked out of
Speaker 3: school in Australia. Then my parents like, we're just gonna
Speaker 3: send you to a different country. And then I went
Speaker 3: to school in New Zealand lay Rugby, and I.
Speaker 4: Was the worst.
Speaker 3: I was on the worst team at school and on
Speaker 3: the bench for them, like they would just put me
Speaker 3: on for ten minutes at the end. Again like, oh,
Speaker 3: Harris should probably run.
Speaker 2: How old is your brother?
Speaker 4: I think he's thirty one.
Speaker 2: Okay, so he's three years older than you two and
Speaker 2: a half, two and a half, two and a half
Speaker 2: years old. Did he also have to go to New Zealand?
Speaker 3: No, No, he was perfect at school.
Speaker 2: Okay they did they send you a loan to another country?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 3: And then you know what, I got kicked out at
Speaker 3: school too.
Speaker 4: I delivered a ten for two weeks.
Speaker 2: You what you're delivering a tent yeap for two weeks?
Speaker 2: Was that your punishment?
Speaker 3: No? My parents, like, we spent so much money on
Speaker 3: you for boarding school. Like since I was fourteen, I
Speaker 3: was in boarding school. And so they're like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: we spent so much money in boarding school for you,
Speaker 3: and this was your final year at school.
Speaker 4: We give up.
Speaker 2: Like you said, there's only two weeks left, is what?
Speaker 2: There were? Two weeks?
Speaker 3: Two weeks aft, Like you didn't have to go to
Speaker 3: the sister college and streak. I didn't have to do it.
Speaker 3: I have to do it. But it was funny and
Speaker 3: if one of our friends didn't get caught by the
Speaker 3: police and snitch and everyone, we would have got away.
Speaker 2: We would have gotten away with it if not for
Speaker 2: those meddling kids.
Speaker 3: That's what we're saying. Yeah, you know, so it's kind
Speaker 3: of not really my fault.
Speaker 2: I see, gosh, I really feel very bad for you.
Speaker 3: It's horrible, honestly troubled up breaking.
Speaker 2: Were you always tall? Did you like sprout overnight or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my family's so tall, like my mom's six foot Yeah,
Speaker 3: like me, exact same.
Speaker 2: I walked in and you were like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: you're so tall.
Speaker 4: This is so tall.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think my brother's six two, and then my
Speaker 3: dad was six three, and then he started shrinking.
Speaker 2: You're the tallest in the family.
Speaker 3: I have to be yeah, yeah, of course. And then
Speaker 3: your four sisters and they're quite little, yeah, a little
Speaker 3: and fun.
Speaker 2: Great.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When did you first notice girls? And when did they
Speaker 2: first start noticing you?
Speaker 3: Jenny, she was I was fourteen and that was hers
Speaker 3: my virginity to love us so much at fourteen. Yeah wow, yeah,
Speaker 3: because all my friends were doing it.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's why. Yeah, that's that's how it happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm like, god, it is it fun?
Speaker 3: Like what they say, it's kind of weird, okay, yeah, yeah, No.
Speaker 3: I actually the first girl I noticed, I think I
Speaker 3: was ten. I'm like, oh, this is hm hmm, there
Speaker 3: was because there was Her name was Imogen. Remember that
Speaker 3: really good with names, you are good with imagine. I
Speaker 3: remember because her parents were from a different, different town
Speaker 3: and my dad was I think, helping build their shd
Speaker 3: and they're like, Oh, we're gonna come stay on the
Speaker 3: farm for a little bit whatever else. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is Is this my first girlfriend? Right? Maybe not?
Speaker 3: But then as I remember, I turned fourteen, all my
Speaker 3: friends were like telling me about like losing their virginities
Speaker 3: for the first time with their girlfriends. And I was like, God,
Speaker 3: what do we do? Who do I go for? And
Speaker 3: then Jenny is my friend's cousin. She's like, I'll do.
Speaker 2: It, be your girlfriend or yeah.
Speaker 3: And she had a boyfriend of two years, so she
Speaker 3: knew what was going on. She knew the lads, knew
Speaker 3: the ropes. Yeah, And so that was the first time,
Speaker 3: and I remember I was like, this is weird. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is interesting. I was like I didn't expect it
Speaker 3: to feel like this. And then she was like, go
Speaker 3: out there and then come back to me after you
Speaker 3: get a few more girls, and I'll tell you if
Speaker 3: you got better.
Speaker 2: She was so like she was a coolman of the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was cool. Yeah, I remember I was like
Speaker 3: obsessed with her at school, Like every everyone would always
Speaker 3: yell at me, like when Forrest coming, I love you, Jenny.
Speaker 3: They would always yell at me.
Speaker 2: That you loved her.
Speaker 3: It's my queen. Yeah, yeah, I don't know where she's
Speaker 3: that now. She's probably happily.
Speaker 2: You've never bothered to look up. So if you can
Speaker 2: find it on social media.
Speaker 3: I just keep name dropping her in every podcast.
Speaker 2: Everywhere you go. You I actually I was, let me
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not that crazy.
Speaker 2: Where do you go on dates in New Zealand? What's
Speaker 2: the dating scene?
Speaker 3: Like? Oh, it was pretty bad. That's why I end
Speaker 3: up on these dating shows. Okay, what do we do?
Speaker 3: Running out of options? To be honest, until recently, I
Speaker 3: wasn't very good at being a data silly to say it,
Speaker 3: but I realized that if you want something, you have
Speaker 3: to put an effort. If you want something good, you
Speaker 3: gotta put an extra effort. So when I was younger,
Speaker 3: I would be like dinner, a park, go for a walk,
Speaker 3: like whatever. But when I was at school in New Zealand,
Speaker 3: pretty much just like I love doing stuff in the daytime,
Speaker 3: like I love daytime activities or going and doing something together.
Speaker 3: But now I'm being more active. We're trying to plan
Speaker 3: better date, to be a better data.
Speaker 2: What's a good date for you?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Like, if you were going to plan a great date,
Speaker 2: you want to hear.
Speaker 3: The craziest one. Yeah, fly to Catalina Island on a helicopter,
Speaker 3: get dinner, and then fly back. Wow, because I thought
Speaker 3: that was like pretty intense.
Speaker 2: That is pretty intense. What if it's a bad first
Speaker 2: date and then you've got like a helicopter ride and.
Speaker 3: A like Instagram stories?
Speaker 2: Yeah? True, Okay, so that's good.
Speaker 3: That I went on. I Throughout the whole date, I
Speaker 3: had written pre written compliments for I was really excited
Speaker 3: to see this person, Okay, and every like I think
Speaker 3: like every thirty minutes or so or twenty minutes, I
Speaker 3: would give her a piece of paper and I'd be like,
Speaker 3: I think you're so amazing. And then the end of it,
Speaker 3: I was like, I think you should be going to go. Yes.
Speaker 3: I had like ten ten outs I've written at and
Speaker 3: I kept giving it to him. I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I said, this is this makes me feel good because
Speaker 3: it's intentional.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, and you got to think about really what
Speaker 2: you wanted to say, instead of just trying to come
Speaker 2: up with them on the spot.
Speaker 3: And it makes it feel special. Yeah, that's the.
Speaker 2: That's the most important. So let's go back to let's
Speaker 2: say you're sixteen and you start looking for brand deals.
Speaker 2: Not that that was a thing when you were sixteen,
Speaker 2: but let's say that it was. What are if some
Speaker 2: of the products you hope reach out to you?
Speaker 3: Links deodorant which like our acts, you guys have a
Speaker 3: that's the one. Yeah, so it's rebranded Links in Australia,
Speaker 3: I think l y n X and love them. And
Speaker 3: Colgate toothpaste.
Speaker 2: Ooh, you've always been a cold Gate guy.
Speaker 3: No, I hate them so much now.
Speaker 2: But back then you loved it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I used to have the yellow his teeth
Speaker 3: but I just yeah, and Mathwash. I was a big
Speaker 3: Listinge mathwash guy. Okay, yeah, but then apparently that's also
Speaker 3: not good for you.
Speaker 2: I know, you know what, Nothing is anything good for us? No, yeah,
Speaker 2: whatever whatever you currently are using, it's bad for you.
Speaker 2: Whatever you used to use is now better for you,
Speaker 2: and whatever, and then five years it will change again.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Actually, back then I had braces and blocks and
Speaker 3: rubber bands, so yeah, maybe teeth self would have been cool.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, did you have a favorite food or snack?
Speaker 3: No, I was like thee of a horse, so I
Speaker 3: just eat everything. And when I was sixteen, I was
Speaker 3: just I couldn't eat enough food. It was wild.
Speaker 2: But you said you were built like an asparagus, which
Speaker 2: is the opposite of a horse. So when did you
Speaker 2: go from asparagus to horse?
Speaker 3: I think when I was like twenty two, okay, when
Speaker 3: I started to fill out. But yeah, back then I
Speaker 3: was more like a flamingo, I think, okay, skinny legs
Speaker 3: and just a pop belly. Hot. It was a unique look.
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite reality TV show you have
Speaker 2: not appeared on.
Speaker 3: Oh, I just finished Traders? Have you been watching Traders?
Speaker 2: I have seen Traders yet.
Speaker 3: Would you do it? Have you done it?
Speaker 2: No, I've not done it, and I think I would
Speaker 2: be terrible at it. Would you want to be a
Speaker 2: faithful or a Trader?
Speaker 3: Trader? For sure? Trader, I'll get caught out right away,
Speaker 3: you think so? For sure? I'm so bad at Lie. No,
Speaker 3: it's all the other shows where I kissed go and
Speaker 3: I about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wanting I'm like.
Speaker 3: This guy's stupid. You can see it.
Speaker 5: You can see what I'm lying, like, no way, Yeah,
Speaker 5: and then I'm like I'm exaggerating, Like tell them to
Speaker 5: pull up the replay.
Speaker 3: This is a TV show, right, They're like, this guy's
Speaker 3: an idiot, Like why so me as a as a
Speaker 3: trade to go? We didn't kill with that person. I
Speaker 3: didn't mean we they literally I would just but I
Speaker 3: was being obsessed with that because I've had a few
Speaker 3: of them on my podcast and I just think, like
Speaker 3: the whole experience would be cool.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, one didn't chest me. Let's marry Harry was my
Speaker 3: retirement one.
Speaker 2: Okay. I want to get to that in a second,
Speaker 2: but before I do, I do want to talk about
Speaker 2: your crossover into traditional movies real acting you're doing now, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you like more? Do you like being yourself
Speaker 2: on reality TV or a heightened version of yourself on
Speaker 2: reality TV? Or do you prefer something that's scripted where
Speaker 2: you get to play a character.
Speaker 3: I love acting because everyone has the I guess the
Speaker 3: main essence of it is it's someone's dream and their idea,
Speaker 3: and I love being a part of someone's dream. Like
Speaker 3: I love being like, oh my god, I get to
Speaker 3: be an accessory, like because you know how it is.
Speaker 3: It takes forever to get a thought to film. Oh yes,
Speaker 3: like I thought in front of the consumer and like
Speaker 3: so many corporate meetings and then who's the right person
Speaker 3: for this position? And then rewrites the script Like there's
Speaker 3: just so much stuff that goes into it. And just
Speaker 3: like I'm not saying reality TV isn't like that, But
Speaker 3: when everyone's on set, everyone knows the game plan, everyone's
Speaker 3: read the script, everyone's so excited about it. Everyone knows
Speaker 3: what they need in the scene, right, And I just
Speaker 3: love that, Like I love that idea and I love that,
Speaker 3: Like I think reality TV is a little bit more
Speaker 3: like unraveled, Like it's just you could be filming twenty
Speaker 3: hours a day. You could be all over the place.
Speaker 3: You don't know what the scene is going to give.
Speaker 3: You don't know if you've got to hit or not hit.
Speaker 3: But like when you're on set, like you can feel, yeah,
Speaker 3: the vibe on a script it said so the movies
Speaker 3: I have done, Like I just really love that, And
Speaker 3: I just love seeing people like reading nail it like.
Speaker 2: Wow, and you love obviously, like you just said that collaborative.
Speaker 2: We're all it, We're all on the same team. We're
Speaker 2: all going for the same goal, and now we're just
Speaker 2: going to talk out what the best avenue is to
Speaker 2: get there.
Speaker 5: Cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like reality TV.
Speaker 2: It's like you don't even know what the storyline.
Speaker 3: Is, kiss that go and then lie about.
Speaker 2: It, right, right? And are they that direct? No, it's
Speaker 2: my brain, right, but they are right, they are. They
Speaker 2: are thinking like, let's see if he'll get drunk and
Speaker 2: kiss that girl and then lie about it, and then
Speaker 2: you'll have a show.
Speaker 3: And he'll do it every time.
Speaker 2: You gotta get you gotta get that guy.
Speaker 3: Thing is whatever our vought show. And I hear producer
Speaker 3: was someone to say, she's getting boring. I'm be one second,
Speaker 3: hold on, hold on, what do we got to do?
Speaker 3: That's the because I'm just like I remember like earlier shows,
Speaker 3: like I would just be a menace, Like I would
Speaker 3: go into something like there's obviously there's different couples, right,
Speaker 3: I'd take something out of someone's bag and put it
Speaker 3: in someone else's bag like they're gonna fight it. And
Speaker 3: then I go like, because everyone's.
Speaker 2: Over, producer's dreamy and just take away all the bad
Speaker 2: producer responsibility from them and you do it for them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, free. He's so stupid. And I remember Perfect Match
Speaker 3: was like one nighter, no one was doing anything, and
Speaker 3: I was so drunk, so I just said, go to
Speaker 3: the mayonnaise and walk around like feeding, feeding everyone mayonnaise.
Speaker 4: You have to eat it. It's so good. Never made
Speaker 4: the cut.
Speaker 3: It was just so weird, right.
Speaker 2: But you know it. It was an experience that you'll
Speaker 2: have and everyone there, everyone.
Speaker 3: Now had to tell me for the mayonnaise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they will get to tell everyone Harry loves
Speaker 2: feeding people mayonnaise when he gets drunk.
Speaker 3: Ye, very good.
Speaker 2: I'd like to pitch you a movie. Okay, that's good,
Speaker 2: it's pretty earnest. I'm serious here. I want you to
Speaker 2: do a three Amigo's reboot with Rob Roush and Dylan
Speaker 2: that Ron.
Speaker 3: Wow, that would be cool. But they really nice, so sweet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Steve Martin and Martin short and then you
Speaker 2: could be Chevy Cha perfect.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love I really love Dylan. I haven't met Rob.
Speaker 3: Maybe I have, I'm not sure, but Dylan is the
Speaker 3: best guy ever.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: He's so sweet.
Speaker 2: I know what's going on. Yeah, just the nicest, the nicest, true,
Speaker 2: like salt of the Earth. It's like, no surprise too
Speaker 2: that then he and Robert Irwin connected because it's again
Speaker 2: another guy. You're just like, is there a single bad
Speaker 2: bone or even just a bit of a bone. I
Speaker 2: don't think so. No bones, No bones, They're made of mayonnaise.
Speaker 2: It's it's just incredible.
Speaker 3: Let's go, how do we get that?
Speaker 2: And now that I've said it's manifested for you, I
Speaker 2: know you got to meet Tom Cruise during his mission
Speaker 2: Impossible Press Roun. Wow was he your guy?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Who were your celebrities growing up?
Speaker 3: Justin Bieber always number one?
Speaker 2: Number one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Adams, he's he's just the coolest guy. Tom Cruise obviously, Wow,
Speaker 3: Like I think and Brad Pitt probably I got it.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: The thing is that it's when you meet people like that,
Speaker 3: like maybe it's different, but I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 3: what to do with my hands. I don't know what
Speaker 3: to look like. I met Tom and I was like,
Speaker 3: we've got to mutual friend, right, and he was like okay.
Speaker 3: I was like, I've done plates with Glenn Powell one time,
Speaker 3: and he was like he's done plates with Glenn. And
Speaker 3: then I'm like, okay, who did he say that to?
Speaker 3: She's like looked at like there was so many people
Speaker 3: and I looked at the crowd and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, mister Cruise. Can we
Speaker 3: just take the.
Speaker 2: Could you send me your cake?
Speaker 3: You cake?
Speaker 2: I want to be on the cake list?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Wait? What's the cake list?
Speaker 2: Is Tom Cruise? Everybody he works with, he then the
Speaker 2: following year sends them a cake. Everyone. He remembers everybody's names.
Speaker 2: He sends them like a person. It's a Christmas gift,
Speaker 2: he sends them. Uh, I think it's a sweet lead. No,
Speaker 2: it's not a sweet lady. Jane's a Woodland Hills cake
Speaker 2: Don's Bakery. It's famous and people who get it now
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, Hollywood Lore, are you on the
Speaker 2: Tom Cruise list to get the cake? And now with
Speaker 2: social media, people who get them will open them up
Speaker 2: and put into them and take bites.
Speaker 3: I lie, I'm gonna buy one from this place.
Speaker 2: And I think, okay, thanks Tom, do it great? Put
Speaker 2: on the list, suggests not sure how we got a cake.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna lie like, yeah, guys, thanks, thank you.
Speaker 3: I really should make miss possible the next one. I'm
Speaker 3: the lead.
Speaker 2: I'm the lead to Tom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm stepping it his replacement.
Speaker 5: He sees the potential off his one really AWKWD interview interaction.
Speaker 2: Did you have any celebrity crushes growing up?
Speaker 5: God?
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously Angela and Joy.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, come on, who didn't have a
Speaker 2: crush on Angela and Yeah, mister and.
Speaker 3: Missus Smith, I think that was I'm like, I need
Speaker 3: a love that reality. Maybe it's them too.
Speaker 2: They that's we can blame them. We can totally blame
Speaker 2: the two of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, mister missus Smith. If it wasn't for that, I
Speaker 3: wouldn't be in reality, it would never happened.
Speaker 7: Love life would have been perfect. Yeah, I think that's okay.
Speaker 2: Do you have any cool young suggestions for me? Before
Speaker 2: we started this podcast, we talked about your pants that
Speaker 2: are dirty on purpose? There you paid extra money for
Speaker 2: this dirt? That could be something? What could I do
Speaker 2: as a mid forties mom of two? How did? What
Speaker 2: could I do to be cooler?
Speaker 3: So you didn't strike me as Sony's dirty?
Speaker 2: So thank you.
Speaker 3: Let's cut out the dirty pants. You know you didn't
Speaker 3: need to do that. Okay, I think you question You've
Speaker 3: got a podcast?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, very cool?
Speaker 3: The coolest thing you could have ever done? Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: I we love hots.
Speaker 2: We love them. I know how to do the I
Speaker 2: know how to do the young gen Z verse.
Speaker 3: Isn't it the heart?
Speaker 2: You can do it with all of them?
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think that's right.
Speaker 4: I think yeah, I think there's something with the pinkies
Speaker 4: this one.
Speaker 3: Am I getting old? What's good?
Speaker 2: Exactly what? But I'm matching it with yours? So we
Speaker 2: do it together? See?
Speaker 3: Am I did I just age myself?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy or old?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I'm the oldest person in life. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like health and wellness is really into.
Speaker 2: So okayptides, Oh what do you say? It could be
Speaker 2: one five.
Speaker 3: I'm taking the Glimmax. No, the Glimax and NAD so Glomax.
Speaker 2: I know about all about NAD. I hadn't an AD
Speaker 2: shot not that long ago. And it bruised the back
Speaker 2: of my arm.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't even feel.
Speaker 2: It, but I yeah, I don't. I think I bruised
Speaker 2: like a peach.
Speaker 3: Oh you do? Yea?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's nice and sensitive and sweet.
Speaker 2: I'm just little, you up?
Speaker 3: I think yeah? I think Glomax is GHK CU and
Speaker 3: it BP one and then there's something else. But it's
Speaker 3: talking meant to be really good and good for your skins.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I just want people to know, not that
Speaker 2: I'm anti your your health and wellness thing, but for
Speaker 2: people who I had cancer in twenty twenty four and peptides,
Speaker 2: one of the reasons they're so good for your skin
Speaker 2: is that they promote cell turnover. One of the things
Speaker 2: you don't want if you have cancer is those cells
Speaker 2: to turnover. And multi three times you had what three
Speaker 2: times skin cancer? Okay, So what I'm saying is peptides
Speaker 2: right now are kind of all the rage, but they're
Speaker 2: not for everyone. So worth possibly talking to your dermatologist
Speaker 2: to say, is there is there a potential for my
Speaker 2: skin cancer cells to be regenerating? Because I love lying
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 4: You just love God, it makes you feel better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I like to my therapist. I don't
Speaker 2: like to my oncologist. Okay, you know, pick and choose
Speaker 2: the doctors you lie to.
Speaker 3: Friend, Okay, that's a good point.
Speaker 2: You don't even have to tell me the name. Just
Speaker 2: what's the oldest person you've ever had slide into your DMS?
Speaker 3: Oh uh, I don't know, like a seventies eighties, but
Speaker 3: that's who the stars is going. Like the average the
Speaker 3: average audience age is sixty. I believe maybe it's changed now,
Speaker 3: but when I was on the show, there was sixty
Speaker 3: and after that I add some some freaky older ladies.
Speaker 3: I want to taste of the sausage. You know, I
Speaker 3: was gonna say apple pie, but I don't know why
Speaker 3: shut up.
Speaker 2: I am about ready to wrap up my ballroom career
Speaker 2: with a few final dates on the Dancing with the
Speaker 2: Stars Live Tour. And you competed and also hit the road.
Speaker 2: Did you have as much fun on the show as
Speaker 2: I have been having, which is immeasurable amounts of fun?
Speaker 2: In case you were good time in my life?
Speaker 4: I wanted to die.
Speaker 3: Did you know? It was the best experience ever, so
Speaker 3: rewarding and amazing. I just never danced in my life.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well you a little and easy to
Speaker 3: move now?
Speaker 2: Yeah I can.
Speaker 3: I'm a tree. And one of the judges, like one
Speaker 3: of the extra judges, one day, he was like, are
Speaker 3: you a tree trunk? You don't know what's going on
Speaker 3: out I'm trying, You're correct.
Speaker 4: So when I was on tour, I came out as
Speaker 4: a t and it was really fun. But no, I
Speaker 4: had the best time.
Speaker 3: Everyone was really lovely and then they weren't, and then
Speaker 3: they weren't. Yeah, because you know, cool when the next
Speaker 3: season comes around, so everyone stops talking to you.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean also, you know what that schedule's like.
Speaker 2: When the next season comes around, they're locked in. Boy,
Speaker 2: you have no time for anything. I was. I was
Speaker 2: a little surprised by how much of my life had absorbed.
Speaker 3: Yeah. He deletes every plan and everything that you have. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The next season came around the show, and I realized
Speaker 3: like a lot of the people were not text me
Speaker 3: back or on following me. And actually, the biggest thing
Speaker 3: that upset me, the most biggest thing that upset me
Speaker 3: the most is when my dad had passed, no one
Speaker 3: text me, and I was really close to them. No
Speaker 3: one had texted me apart from Sasha, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: So I was like, I don't know if you guys
Speaker 3: are really my friends or it was just it was horrible.
Speaker 4: It was right.
Speaker 2: That was a very telling moment for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And also I think the hardest thing was like
Speaker 3: I was trying my best with all the noise and rething.
Speaker 4: But I just think I'm I'm kind of.
Speaker 3: Glad that I'm not friends with any of them because
Speaker 3: of when my dad had passed that I was like,
Speaker 3: there was one of them. I was training in the
Speaker 3: gym with him like every day, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I could and I told him that my dad was sick,
Speaker 3: and there was a lot of them, and I knew
Speaker 3: that they knew that someone was going on.
Speaker 4: I think that was the thing that felt most.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, okay, there's.
Speaker 2: No denying he knew.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no denying that, and you could have texted or
Speaker 3: anything like that. But when I posted the photo like
Speaker 3: and my dad's passed, they just like it. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: I would have moved mountains, Like if it was you,
Speaker 3: I would have been there. So I think that's why
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm kind of glad that that chapter.
Speaker 2: Is behind you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I don't know if you're really real people.
Speaker 3: But it's all good because I think when you're in
Speaker 3: that show, and I've spoken to other people that want
Speaker 3: the show too, like it's just such a bubble and
Speaker 3: you see like it's it's such a bubble and nothing
Speaker 3: else matters. And I think like when you when you're
Speaker 3: a dancer and you on that show, that's like you
Speaker 3: made the NFL because like a lot of the other
Speaker 3: pros that like leave the show that kind of like
Speaker 3: the outcasts. They don't really talk to them, so it's
Speaker 3: a bit weird. Anyway, I'm probably going to get in.
Speaker 6: Trouble for that.
Speaker 3: No, I don't really care.
Speaker 2: You've mentioned a couple of times about your dad passing,
Speaker 2: so it's obviously something that still deeply affects you when
Speaker 2: you were close to your dad. You've had great stories
Speaker 2: in this podcast about do you want to talk a
Speaker 2: little more about your dad? Is there anything in particular
Speaker 2: you want to say, or.
Speaker 3: I just it's like, grief is so fun and I
Speaker 3: love I love thinking about my dad and I love
Speaker 3: getting the opportunity to talk about like lost one like
Speaker 3: lost loved ones because it's really like that was the
Speaker 3: hard the hardest thing I've ever experienced is watching him
Speaker 3: take his last breath.
Speaker 4: But that was such a beautiful thing to be a
Speaker 4: part of.
Speaker 3: And I think you learn a lot about your environment
Speaker 3: and your people and who really cares and who's really
Speaker 3: there when you're going through something so humanizing and something
Speaker 3: so like traumatic, and I'm just I was just so
Speaker 3: grateful that I was there to be there and experience that.
Speaker 3: But like there's so much drama around death too, Like
Speaker 3: family is so silly and sassy. Yes, Like isn't it
Speaker 3: kind of funny how people.
Speaker 4: Get when someone goes.
Speaker 3: But I just love, yeah, I just I love being
Speaker 3: able to talk about him because he's he's my whole personality,
Speaker 3: you know, like my dad was when growing up. He's
Speaker 3: the biggest flirt in front of mom. He's flirting with
Speaker 3: the waitress. He's teaching me how to tip. I remember
Speaker 3: we would be first time I ever tipped, because tipping
Speaker 3: is on a thing in Australia. But if someone's really good,
Speaker 3: my dad would be like, here's some cash. You got
Speaker 3: to shake their hand and and I'm like, okay, that's
Speaker 3: cool because you don't want other people to see it
Speaker 3: because then they thing that they get to like, okay,
Speaker 3: it's like only the good.
Speaker 2: One, only the good one.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, But I love, like, I just love thinking
Speaker 3: about that stuff because she's all fleeting, right, And I
Speaker 3: guess that's where my journey with religion and it's going
Speaker 3: now because I remember sitting now with him because he
Speaker 3: went through with his sister dying and that was the
Speaker 3: scariest thing but the most beautiful thing on the planet
Speaker 3: because you get to know that he's this is the day,
Speaker 3: like he gets to choose and you get to be there.
Speaker 3: You get to spend every day with him, and that
Speaker 3: was really cool. But uh wow, yeah, it was just
Speaker 3: like obviously every relationship and every relationship with your parents
Speaker 3: is up and down, and I had so many I'd
Speaker 3: like two or three years right, didn't talk to him
Speaker 3: because he struggled with alcohol, and we had this very
Speaker 3: rocky relationship, but as as anyone does. Like not no relationships, absolutely,
Speaker 3: but I just I'm so grateful that we got to
Speaker 3: we got to know, and I got to look back
Speaker 3: and it's just all those hard days and all those
Speaker 3: happy days. Just be grateful because my.
Speaker 2: Dad, Yeah, it's really nice that you were there too
Speaker 2: for those those last moments. I really think are like
Speaker 2: just one of the points of life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so like is it so? I remember Alex
Speaker 3: Warren was talking about it when his parents had passed
Speaker 3: that like he was in the hospital and his whole
Speaker 3: world is just like flipped on its head, Like it's
Speaker 3: the hardest thing is they ever gone through. And then
Speaker 3: he walks outside.
Speaker 2: And the world is all just moving.
Speaker 4: Yeah, people are driving past.
Speaker 3: No one cares. And that's why I felt like. I
Speaker 3: remember because he had a drink and he went to sleep,
Speaker 3: and remember seeing there. I was like, because my sister Sarah,
Speaker 3: she said, hold his feet, You'll get allose magic powers
Speaker 3: when he goes over. So I'm sitting there holding his
Speaker 3: feet and he takes his last breath. I remember, I
Speaker 3: was like, Wow, this is really tough, but this is
Speaker 3: the hardest thing ever there. I can't be in this room.
Speaker 3: So I went outside and went and cried in a bush.
Speaker 3: I'm looking him like no one, no one else, no
Speaker 3: one cares about what just said, Like this is.
Speaker 2: It's a very isolating wowing yeah.
Speaker 3: But then this, yeah, the same thing, Like I just
Speaker 3: look at older people that reached out, Like there was
Speaker 3: friends that were like, I'll fight in New Zealand right now. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there was friends that were like, I'll literally do anything
Speaker 3: that you need. I'll be there whatever else. And then
Speaker 3: there was a lot of friends that didn't. I couldn't
Speaker 3: even text what it is and it's not like I
Speaker 3: needed it, Like I'm good and I had my sisters.
Speaker 4: But god, it's nice to just know that because.
Speaker 3: Then it's but well, I was gonna say a birthday text,
Speaker 3: but that's a little bit. You can let that slide.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can let that one go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I agree with you. Grief and death, though, does everybody
Speaker 2: responds very differently. Some people really like I, I don't
Speaker 2: know what to say, and that not knowing what to
Speaker 2: say paralyzes you. And certainly there are other people who
Speaker 2: are just assholes and are just like gonna be callous
Speaker 2: and not care. But also for other people, it can
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say, I don't want to
Speaker 2: do I call, and if I call, am I interrupting? Am? I?
Speaker 2: You know, everyone can make people weirdy, and.
Speaker 3: Death is so scary, and I think the only thing
Speaker 3: because now I guess I'm the spokesperson for the dead
Speaker 3: Dad Club with all my friends. So I've had a
Speaker 3: few friends now who've lost parents, And my best advice
Speaker 3: to anyone if they have a friend that's lost someone
Speaker 3: or whatever else, is just them knowing that you're there
Speaker 3: is super important. So like the greatest thing, the greatest
Speaker 3: gift that I learned was that I don't want people
Speaker 3: calling me all the time. I don't want on a
Speaker 3: good day, like if someone's blowing my phone up, it's horrible.
Speaker 3: But on those moments, I just if you text your friend.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, thinking about you, thinking.
Speaker 3: About you, whatever, you need them here, love you so
Speaker 3: much like that. Wow, if I had that from half
Speaker 3: the people that I'm angry at, it would have been
Speaker 3: a different story and I still would have tried to help.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, so anyway, thank you for sharing all
Speaker 2: with me. That was very special. So let's talk very
Speaker 2: briefly about Let's Marry Harry executive produced by Alex Cooper
Speaker 2: for Netflix. Outside of assuming you just picked sea at
Speaker 2: the end, we don't know anything about it. What can
Speaker 2: you tell us?
Speaker 3: So it does get picked at the end. No, you
Speaker 3: know what's funny is she texts me and she went
Speaker 3: by me saying this. She text me, she goes, if
Speaker 3: they're all duds, Harry, just let me know, come save
Speaker 3: the day. She's awesome. She's so funny, like we have
Speaker 3: such a good relationship. She's like, just let me know
Speaker 3: if you don't having a good time, and I'll come
Speaker 3: save the day. And I'm like, okay, cool. But it
Speaker 3: is that was one of the hardest things I've ever done. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff with my dad is going to
Speaker 3: be in there. She was really like, ah, I guess
Speaker 3: vulnerable and opens me up more than I've ever been
Speaker 3: up and up on the show before. And I think, also,
Speaker 3: it's different this time because i'd have to be any
Speaker 3: but myself. Yeah, I don't have to compete with other
Speaker 3: guys for screen time or I don't have to hide
Speaker 3: stuff in people's rooms. But there's obviously a lot of drama,
Speaker 3: way too much drama, a lot of sleepless nights, pretty
Speaker 3: pretty chaotic show, amazing cast, like the most beautiful cast
Speaker 3: on the planet ever to exist, most incredible stories, the
Speaker 3: most incredible people, And I just think that it's going
Speaker 3: to be such a wild ride for everyone to come on.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of cringe moments. I'm sure that I've
Speaker 3: done a lot of embarrassing things that I've done, and
Speaker 3: I just, yeah, I would sink I'm going to be
Speaker 3: watching through my fingers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that you're at this phase of life where
Speaker 2: you are ready to settle down, do you hate watching
Speaker 2: old reality clips of young f boy? Harry can't do it.
Speaker 3: Like it's nice to look back and be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't want to be like that anymore. Right, Well, say,
Speaker 3: my whole dating life has been on TV sincey nineteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of yeah, a lot of silly decisions,
Speaker 3: of course, but yeah, now I'm glad it's wrapped up.
Speaker 2: Okay, good. When you get Harry Jowsey, you don't just
Speaker 2: let him leave that easy. He's going to stick around
Speaker 2: for a bonus episode where we will listen to one
Speaker 2: of your voicemails. It'll premiere this Friday on the dedicated
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Speaker 2: own tales of childhood cringe with the podcast. Record a
Speaker 2: voice memo recalling the most embarrassing story from your teens,
Speaker 2: and then email it to teenbeatpod at gmail dot com
Speaker 2: and the next thing you know, Harry Jowsey will be
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