WEBVTT - Harry Jowsey

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's okay, because no one here is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Hello, teeny Beaters. Nope, it's not it. It's still

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<v Speaker 2>work shopping our names. We will get there at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>I promise, but more importantly, in the meanwhile, this is

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<v Speaker 2>teen Beat with Me Danielle Fischel. It's a podcast where

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<v Speaker 2>I invite interesting people to sit down and chat about

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<v Speaker 2>their upbringings, the glorious and the awkward, all in an

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<v Speaker 2>attempt to pay me back for the years I spent

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<v Speaker 2>on television as a literal kid. It's an easy concept.

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<v Speaker 2>I gave you my childhood. It's time we hear yours.

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<v Speaker 2>And this week I'm hanging out with a reality television

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<v Speaker 2>superstar who's here not only to talk about his formative years,

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<v Speaker 2>but this session will also double as a conduit between

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<v Speaker 2>his generation and mine, with the goal of making me

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<v Speaker 2>cooler by the end of this episode. Twenty eight years old,

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<v Speaker 2>six foot five, this Queensland, Australia native burst onto the

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<v Speaker 2>scene in twenty eighteen as the standout star of New

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<v Speaker 2>Zealand's hit reality dating show Heartbreak Island, leaving with a

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand dollars prize and a newly recognizable name.

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<v Speaker 2>In branding. He then sidestepped the success onto twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one's British dating game show Too Hot to Handle and

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<v Speaker 2>MTV's Match Me If You Can, a prime example of

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<v Speaker 2>celebrity in the always changing media landscape of today. He

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<v Speaker 2>continued to make the unscripted rounds from flori Islava to

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing Raced Australia to Perfect Match, eventually landing on the

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<v Speaker 2>thirty second season of Dancing with the Stars, where he

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<v Speaker 2>helped usher in a new era for them show, one

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<v Speaker 2>that has continued to gain momentum ever since then. He

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<v Speaker 2>made the once impossible transition into traditional acting, appearing in

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<v Speaker 2>last year's The Wrong Paris alongside Miranda Cosgrove and the

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<v Speaker 2>upcoming Horrified with Ron Pearlman, Busy Phillips and Jim Rash.

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<v Speaker 2>And now he's about to raise the ante with his

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<v Speaker 2>own reality dating show, Let's Marry Harry on Netflix, executive

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<v Speaker 2>produced by Alex Cooper of Call Her Daddy Fame, with

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<v Speaker 2>the goal of guiding the serial dater toward a committed,

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<v Speaker 2>long term relationship. He has his own podcast on the

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<v Speaker 2>Unwell Network called Boyfriend Material, but today he's here on

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<v Speaker 2>teen Beat because I have to assume somewhere underneath this

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<v Speaker 2>hot guy facade is an awkward, dorky teenager. You know what,

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably not. It's probably always been cool. Anyway, Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the show, Harry Jousey.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the coolest I've ever had.

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<v Speaker 2>Really?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, saying that six of us reality TV superstars Superstar

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<v Speaker 3>said that really it's usually reality TV star. Well, I've

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<v Speaker 3>got the supernow superstar.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's supermodel superstars?

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<v Speaker 3>So you really like did you say?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're just supply by night operation?

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<v Speaker 3>Here?

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<v Speaker 2>This is iHeart.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is the big this is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Serious building, as you called it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's so cool. I feel really official.

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<v Speaker 2>You should and you're very cool. You should you should

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<v Speaker 2>be you should feel cool?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow? What do I do now? It's so fun?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I right? Have you always been cool?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I was terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>I was such a little Yeah, a little sausage.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm going to need some more explanation about that.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a little sausage?

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like sausage is like a universal word

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<v Speaker 3>and I just say it for everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So what does it mean in terms of what

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<v Speaker 2>you were like as a child? You little sausage?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I swear you sure can.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, cool, because I was gonna say it was a

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<v Speaker 4>little ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, got it. Yeah that makes sense to me. A

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<v Speaker 2>little sausage. I needed explanation. You say a little shit,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay cool. Yeah, No I usually say sausage for like

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<v Speaker 3>anything bad. But yeah, I was a little ship growing

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<v Speaker 3>up like I was. I grew up in central Queensland, Australia,

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<v Speaker 3>in this small town called Jupoon, and the closest city

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<v Speaker 3>is Rockhampton, which is the beef capital of Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>So I might say the sausage capital, the sausage capital.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of meat going around over there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The funny thing is like growing up in a place

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<v Speaker 3>like that. You know in school you have like different classes,

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<v Speaker 3>right like New Zealand. When I went to school in

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<v Speaker 3>New Zealand, there's rugby class. Where I grew up, there

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<v Speaker 3>was a bull riding class.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>I never did it because I'm too tall to write

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<v Speaker 3>a ball and also.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a height requirement.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think, so, oh you're taking up.

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<v Speaker 2>Again. I mentioned it in the We need to lock

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<v Speaker 2>that in as many times as.

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<v Speaker 3>Six or five. But yes, there's like bull writing class

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<v Speaker 3>and then one of my nephews he open Byron Bait

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<v Speaker 3>and there's a second class. It's really cool. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if they do that in.

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<v Speaker 2>America, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 3>We should do it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's bowling. I took bowling, okay, bowling, yeah in college. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>seriously I needed I needed like a one unit class.

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<v Speaker 2>I needed one unit class. And I gotta admit, like bowling,

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<v Speaker 2>I really do. I thought, Yeah, I mean I can be.

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<v Speaker 2>I was that semester.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you get graded on that? Like how do

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<v Speaker 3>you you just show up?

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<v Speaker 2>Surely you just show up and you actually, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>look at listen to the thing they tell you what

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<v Speaker 2>all the dots.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, and do we know yes, remember I kind of remember.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like where the pins are? You know, you you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of determine your own So you want to keep

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<v Speaker 2>your arm really straight, and so depending on where the

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<v Speaker 2>pins are out there, you actually want to go the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite direction. Like if you've got a pin to your

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<v Speaker 2>right side, you want to go more left then more right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, it's yeah, that's very technical, but I want

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<v Speaker 2>to I want to give back to being a little ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah okay, yeah, no, I grew up. I was just

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<v Speaker 3>a very naughty kid growing up. I think the first

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<v Speaker 3>time I got suspended was in grade two. Oh for what,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I threw a desk at a teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a little thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what I definitely do that. At some point

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you were going to say throwing a paper airplane,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you said throwing a desk at a teacher

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<v Speaker 2>or should.

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<v Speaker 3>You be in jail for sure? And I have been oh, wow, No,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I was. It was either a chair or desk,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was very little. It was my first ever

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<v Speaker 3>memory of school. I didn't like the teacher clearly. And

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<v Speaker 3>then me and my friend I think his name was Cody,

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<v Speaker 3>we weren't too good together. We're both very naughty. It

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<v Speaker 3>was farmber State School, very rural school, and yet it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't really going well.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't seem like it. No, what had they done?

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<v Speaker 2>The teacher, this terrible teacher.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the worst teacher ever. I'm definitely the victim. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>different going. No, I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think I was just like a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>I was not very good at following rules, but also like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we had a big problem with that school anyway, So

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<v Speaker 3>it's about time that we left.

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<v Speaker 2>But so what happened for a reason, You were just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get your family out of there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, out of the trenches. Yeah, no, we to be honest,

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<v Speaker 3>we did have a really bad running with them. So

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<v Speaker 3>I grew up with my parents not wanting us to

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<v Speaker 3>believe in any religion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>So they had religion forcing them growing up. So they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>when you guys are kids, we just want you to

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<v Speaker 3>believe in whatever you want to believe in, and then

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<v Speaker 3>when you turn eighteen.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what we focus on.

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<v Speaker 3>So like you just do whatever you want. So back

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<v Speaker 3>when I was at school super young, religion was like

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<v Speaker 3>it was kind of mandatory.

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<v Speaker 2>Like part of the curriculum.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah. So there was one class and I remember

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<v Speaker 3>this one class was like, oh, you have to sing

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<v Speaker 3>hymns and I was like, oh, my family doesn't want

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<v Speaker 3>me to do that. And I got kicked out of

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<v Speaker 3>the class. And this was I think this was before

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<v Speaker 3>after I think this was before the desk operation. So

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they were trying to do more more deak stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe get me angry. But so I got kicked out

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<v Speaker 3>of class and it turned into a whole thing in

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<v Speaker 3>the news because I went outside and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>what do I do? So I told my parents, like,

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<v Speaker 3>how was school? It was terrible. I kicked out of

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<v Speaker 3>school because I didn't want to sing these hymns. And

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<v Speaker 3>obviously my parents were like, well, you shouldn't be forced

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<v Speaker 3>to do something that we don't believe in. So then, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it ended up my I think my parents wade a

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<v Speaker 3>letter the headmaster, and then it escalated, ended up in

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<v Speaker 3>the news. We actually had to leave the country because

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<v Speaker 3>we started getting stalked and we had we had all

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<v Speaker 3>these Christmas cards flood our dress, flood our dress, and

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<v Speaker 3>then horrible threats on us, like horrible, crazy threats on

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<v Speaker 3>my mom saying I remember this, and I shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>read it, but I remember this one card said I

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<v Speaker 3>was gonna they were going to put dead rats in

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<v Speaker 3>my mom. Like obviously a lot more detailed than that.

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<v Speaker 3>I should have read it. But we ended up leaving

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<v Speaker 3>the country. We went to Bali, which is a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good place to escape too. It was beautiful, and I

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<v Speaker 3>remember we came back and there's this news network called

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<v Speaker 3>a Current Affair, and they were on our flight. They're like, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>my mom was like, oh, I've seen you on TV

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<v Speaker 3>and the guy was like like, She's like, why are

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<v Speaker 3>you coming to your poon? So got to interview the Jowsy.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, we want to get them on on the

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<v Speaker 3>news and tell us how to the story. My mom

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, that's us, that's Harry. And then it

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<v Speaker 3>turned into a whole thing, and I remember it was

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<v Speaker 3>the first time I was on TV.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But we had the Prime Minister of Australia, John Howard.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he spoke on it, which is pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not like good reasons, like it wasn't any to

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<v Speaker 3>be proud of it. It was pretty wild. And then we

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<v Speaker 3>got dogs by the local news channel too. They came

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<v Speaker 3>to our address. They literally just showed up and I

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<v Speaker 3>remember because I was like, oh, Dad, there's all these

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<v Speaker 3>camera crews in our driveway and my dad just walked

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<v Speaker 3>outside naked. He's like, he said, get out of here

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<v Speaker 3>like this. He's pretty proud. He's got Yeah, that's scary.

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<v Speaker 3>And they left and they said the Jazzys didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to be on camera, and they panned to our address

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<v Speaker 3>and then number and where it was. So that's I

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<v Speaker 3>think that was.

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<v Speaker 4>Before that was before we left, so we obviously we left.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously. Now with religion, I've got a way different perspective

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<v Speaker 3>on it. After losing my dad, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>should probably believe in something, like it's nice. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>also twenty eight, so I've started trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 3>what my path is with religion. So all that to

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<v Speaker 3>say is that it was all that drama for no reason,

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<v Speaker 3>because now I believe in something.

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<v Speaker 2>I just try to figure out what kind of what

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<v Speaker 2>your parents were fighting for the right for was for

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<v Speaker 2>you to become an adult and figure it out on

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<v Speaker 2>your own.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So it's kind of nice. It's nice, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 3>I just remember being a kid and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I believed in something because I'd always be

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<v Speaker 3>afraid of death and scam scam me as it scares everyone,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. I'd wake up at them in the night like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, I don't know what to do, like

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<v Speaker 3>be crying, and I just wish even if they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>believe it, or even if it's a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>lie or even like gone into so nice to believe.

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<v Speaker 2>In something, to believe in something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I think now that that's when I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about having a family. It's like, oh, I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>want to just have like a soft this is what

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<v Speaker 3>we believe in anyway, So that was that was the

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<v Speaker 3>first kind of trouble growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>I really got to be honest. When I started this

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<v Speaker 2>questioning and you said you threw a desk at a teacher,

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<v Speaker 2>I did not expect the story to end up with

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<v Speaker 2>me actually believing that you were the victim. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, wow, that really you are a very persuasive storyteller,

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<v Speaker 2>because I actually think that teacher probably deserves it.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember that was just a first memory I had

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<v Speaker 3>of being naughty at school. And then I remember I

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<v Speaker 3>left that school after all the religion stuff, and I

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<v Speaker 3>went to a different school and yupun State School, and

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<v Speaker 3>that was cool. I remember that was a lot of fun,

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<v Speaker 3>but we were still Me and my brother would get

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<v Speaker 3>bullied about the religion stuff. It would be so wild

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<v Speaker 3>that kids would kids are so mean. But it was

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<v Speaker 3>like very formative.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you guys describe your self as atheist or no?

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<v Speaker 2>Just exactly so just non denominational.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we don't even know. Like that was the thing

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<v Speaker 3>that people be like, oh you have this or that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know and that was kind of nice,

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<v Speaker 3>but it would always get bullied about, like Christmas Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>because you.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't celebrate any holidays then either, no, we didn't, but.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom was kind of cheeky. So obviously after Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>is Boxing Day, so she would go get all the

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<v Speaker 3>sales and she'd be like, we're doing New Year's celebration

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<v Speaker 3>instead of which is nice. Yeah, so we would I

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<v Speaker 3>tell everyone we got more presents, but another think we

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<v Speaker 3>did because my mom just wanted to get the deal right.

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<v Speaker 2>She just wanted to say maybe she.

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<v Speaker 3>Does believe it religion, and that was the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That was her thank you listen for our kids because

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<v Speaker 2>I have a similar feeling in the sense that I

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<v Speaker 2>really don't want to push my own beliefs onto that

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<v Speaker 2>of my kids. So I tell them that everyone believes

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<v Speaker 2>something different. No one knows for sure, and here's what

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<v Speaker 2>mommy believes, but you can decide if you believe the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing or if you believe something different, And that

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<v Speaker 2>way there's a little bit of a grounding foundation of yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe the same thing mommy, or at least just

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<v Speaker 2>putting them putting the thought in their mind that I

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<v Speaker 2>want them to be critical thinkers and that they can

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<v Speaker 2>pick and choose some of the things that ring true

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<v Speaker 2>for them. And these are the things that I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know either, like I'm not right and

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<v Speaker 2>if this just because I believe something different than what

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<v Speaker 2>your friend believes doesn't make them wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's so nice to ask questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what I realized. That's what I'm grateful for

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<v Speaker 3>with my parents, is that it's so open for me

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<v Speaker 3>to figure it out and ask questions. Yeah, because I would,

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you see a lot of that with

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<v Speaker 3>people that are kind of like this is how it

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<v Speaker 3>has to be. They get stuck in that, and then

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<v Speaker 3>they grow older and they're like a lot of my

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<v Speaker 3>friends are ex moment. Yeah, they grow older and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's right. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>I believe in that fully or maybe I somewhat believe

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<v Speaker 3>in it, but I don't. And because they were kind

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<v Speaker 3>of stuck in that way, they kind of want it

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<v Speaker 3>on revels, it really unravels. Yeah, So that's why I

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<v Speaker 3>get a bit worried about and I'm again grateful with

0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:13.240
<v Speaker 3>my parents so that I can question everything. Yeah, but yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>go kicked out of the schools. They go kicked out

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<v Speaker 3>another school.

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<v Speaker 2>And wow, you don't seem like a trouble make me

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<v Speaker 2>come on.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I remember the first time I got suspended, my

0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.560
<v Speaker 3>dad said to me, because we grew up in the country,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, you're never going to do this again. You

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<v Speaker 3>have to go and pick up every rock and every

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<v Speaker 3>stick on our property. And that was the worst thing

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<v Speaker 3>ever because we lived on a farm.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so it was just rocks and sticks everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>It was all rocks and sticks, right. Yeah, So that

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<v Speaker 3>was and that was for the whole weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I feel like that was your dad's version of

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<v Speaker 2>like wax on wax off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, and you know what, it didn't work because

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<v Speaker 3>I got suspended again.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that for a fight club? I know you've been

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<v Speaker 2>pretty vocal about your teenage fight clubs. Were they like official,

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<v Speaker 2>did someone keeping minutes or anything?

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<v Speaker 3>No? Oh, you know how we call them tower fights.

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<v Speaker 3>So you wrap your hands in towels and you punch

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<v Speaker 3>the shit out of each other until the towels fall

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<v Speaker 3>off and that's a round done or until you want

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<v Speaker 3>to stop, okay, And I wasn't. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 3>good at it. I wasn't very good.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you always win.

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<v Speaker 3>This one time? I Most of the times I was

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good. This one time wasn't that good. This big,

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<v Speaker 3>this big.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy, bigger than you. You're six five.

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<v Speaker 3>He was pretty large. He was larger than charge. He

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<v Speaker 3>bounced my head off a wall and it was the

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<v Speaker 3>first time I was like, oh god, I got pretty

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<v Speaker 3>dizzy and I ripped the towels off. I said this,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to get him, and then everyone helped me back.

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<v Speaker 3>But then I dated his sister, So I was the

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<v Speaker 3>real winner.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're the real winner. Yeah, our teenage are like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's crazy on which we have in common? Yeah, tower fights,

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<v Speaker 2>of course. Is that the worst injury you had as

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<v Speaker 2>a kid, or did you ever get hurt worse?

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<v Speaker 3>I got any reconstruction at seventeen because I was playing rugby, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I had that popped out. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good, not very good, but yeah, I played. So

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<v Speaker 3>I played rugby in Australia and I got tackled from

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<v Speaker 3>behind and the guy like pulled my pulled my shin

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<v Speaker 3>and then my knee kind of shell off my leg

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<v Speaker 3>And that was kind of cool because when you stand

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<v Speaker 3>up full of adrenaline. My knee kept slipping off my

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<v Speaker 3>leg and I was like, what's wrong with me?

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<v Speaker 4>But it was still together. And then my dad was like,

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<v Speaker 4>you wait, get.

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<v Speaker 3>Back out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Your dad has some mean, very hue, a funny guy

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<v Speaker 2>coming out naked telling you to go back out there

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<v Speaker 2>with your knee falling off your legs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think because it wasn't like a crazy hit,

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<v Speaker 3>like it wasn't like right, he didn't know the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just like And also I was built like

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<v Speaker 3>an asparagus, Like I was so skinny and long for

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<v Speaker 3>no reason, and like my like my legs should have

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<v Speaker 3>broken a lot sooner. It wasn't very good. But so

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<v Speaker 3>I went to school in Australia, got kicked out of

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<v Speaker 3>school in Australia. Then my parents like, we're just gonna

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<v Speaker 3>send you to a different country. And then I went

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<v Speaker 3>to school in New Zealand lay Rugby, and I.

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<v Speaker 4>Was the worst.

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<v Speaker 3>I was on the worst team at school and on

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<v Speaker 3>the bench for them, like they would just put me

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<v Speaker 3>on for ten minutes at the end. Again like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Harris should probably run.

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<v Speaker 2>How old is your brother?

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's thirty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so he's three years older than you two and

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<v Speaker 2>a half, two and a half, two and a half

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<v Speaker 2>years old. Did he also have to go to New Zealand?

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, he was perfect at school.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay they did they send you a loan to another country?

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<v Speaker 3>Yep?

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<v Speaker 2>Cool?

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<v Speaker 3>And then you know what, I got kicked out at

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<v Speaker 3>school too.

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<v Speaker 4>I delivered a ten for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>You what you're delivering a tent yeap for two weeks?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that your punishment?

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<v Speaker 3>No? My parents, like, we spent so much money on

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<v Speaker 3>you for boarding school. Like since I was fourteen, I

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<v Speaker 3>was in boarding school. And so they're like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we spent so much money in boarding school for you,

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<v Speaker 3>and this was your final year at school.

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<v Speaker 4>We give up.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you said, there's only two weeks left, is what?

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<v Speaker 2>There were? Two weeks?

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<v Speaker 3>Two weeks aft, Like you didn't have to go to

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<v Speaker 3>the sister college and streak. I didn't have to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to do it. But it was funny and

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<v Speaker 3>if one of our friends didn't get caught by the

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<v Speaker 3>police and snitch and everyone, we would have got away.

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<v Speaker 2>We would have gotten away with it if not for

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<v Speaker 2>those meddling kids.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we're saying. Yeah, you know, so it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of not really my fault.

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<v Speaker 2>I see, gosh, I really feel very bad for you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's horrible, honestly troubled up breaking.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you always tall? Did you like sprout overnight or.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my family's so tall, like my mom's six foot Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like me, exact same.

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<v Speaker 2>I walked in and you were like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>you're so tall.

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<v Speaker 4>This is so tall.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think my brother's six two, and then my

0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:38.399
<v Speaker 3>dad was six three, and then he started shrinking.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the tallest in the family.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to be yeah, yeah, of course. And then

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<v Speaker 3>your four sisters and they're quite little, yeah, a little

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<v Speaker 3>and fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Great.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>When did you first notice girls? And when did they

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<v Speaker 2>first start noticing you?

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<v Speaker 3>Jenny, she was I was fourteen and that was hers

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<v Speaker 3>my virginity to love us so much at fourteen. Yeah wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because all my friends were doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's why. Yeah, that's that's how it happens.

0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:18.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I'm like, god, it is it fun?

0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:27.720
<v Speaker 3>Like what they say, it's kind of weird, okay, yeah, yeah, No.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually the first girl I noticed, I think I

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<v Speaker 3>was ten. I'm like, oh, this is hm hmm, there

0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:38.080
<v Speaker 3>was because there was Her name was Imogen. Remember that

0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.200
<v Speaker 3>really good with names, you are good with imagine. I

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<v Speaker 3>remember because her parents were from a different, different town

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<v Speaker 3>and my dad was I think, helping build their shd

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<v Speaker 3>and they're like, Oh, we're gonna come stay on the

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<v Speaker 3>farm for a little bit whatever else. And I was like, oh,

0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:57.639
<v Speaker 3>this is Is this my first girlfriend? Right? Maybe not?

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<v Speaker 3>But then as I remember, I turned fourteen, all my

0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:04.960
<v Speaker 3>friends were like telling me about like losing their virginities

0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.679
<v Speaker 3>for the first time with their girlfriends. And I was like, God,

0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.439
<v Speaker 3>what do we do? Who do I go for? And

0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:12.960
<v Speaker 3>then Jenny is my friend's cousin. She's like, I'll do.

0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.960
<v Speaker 2>It, be your girlfriend or yeah.

0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:18.520
<v Speaker 3>And she had a boyfriend of two years, so she

0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:21.520
<v Speaker 3>knew what was going on. She knew the lads, knew

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<v Speaker 3>the ropes. Yeah, And so that was the first time,

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<v Speaker 3>and I remember I was like, this is weird. Yeah,

0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:30.399
<v Speaker 3>this is interesting. I was like I didn't expect it

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<v Speaker 3>to feel like this. And then she was like, go

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<v Speaker 3>out there and then come back to me after you

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<v Speaker 3>get a few more girls, and I'll tell you if

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<v Speaker 3>you got better.

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<v Speaker 2>She was so like she was a coolman of the world.

0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she was cool. Yeah, I remember I was like

0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:51.240
<v Speaker 3>obsessed with her at school, Like every everyone would always

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<v Speaker 3>yell at me, like when Forrest coming, I love you, Jenny.

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<v Speaker 3>They would always yell at me.

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<v Speaker 2>That you loved her.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my queen. Yeah, yeah, I don't know where she's

0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:02.960
<v Speaker 3>that now. She's probably happily.

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<v Speaker 2>You've never bothered to look up. So if you can

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<v Speaker 2>find it on social media.

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<v Speaker 3>I just keep name dropping her in every podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Everywhere you go. You I actually I was, let me

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<v Speaker 2>see it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm not that crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Where do you go on dates in New Zealand? What's

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<v Speaker 2>the dating scene?

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<v Speaker 3>Like? Oh, it was pretty bad. That's why I end

0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:27.199
<v Speaker 3>up on these dating shows. Okay, what do we do?

0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:31.359
<v Speaker 3>Running out of options? To be honest, until recently, I

0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:34.760
<v Speaker 3>wasn't very good at being a data silly to say it,

0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:37.520
<v Speaker 3>but I realized that if you want something, you have

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<v Speaker 3>to put an effort. If you want something good, you

0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:42.639
<v Speaker 3>gotta put an extra effort. So when I was younger,

0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:44.960
<v Speaker 3>I would be like dinner, a park, go for a walk,

0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:47.640
<v Speaker 3>like whatever. But when I was at school in New Zealand,

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much just like I love doing stuff in the daytime,

0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.439
<v Speaker 3>like I love daytime activities or going and doing something together.

0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:58.360
<v Speaker 3>But now I'm being more active. We're trying to plan

0:21:58.440 --> 0:21:59.680
<v Speaker 3>better date, to be a better data.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a good date for you?

0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:01.920
<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, if you were going to plan a great date,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to hear.

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<v Speaker 3>The craziest one. Yeah, fly to Catalina Island on a helicopter,

0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:11.880
<v Speaker 3>get dinner, and then fly back. Wow, because I thought

0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:13.320
<v Speaker 3>that was like pretty intense.

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<v Speaker 2>That is pretty intense. What if it's a bad first

0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:17.760
<v Speaker 2>date and then you've got like a helicopter ride and.

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<v Speaker 3>A like Instagram stories?

0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? True, Okay, so that's good.

0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:25.600
<v Speaker 3>That I went on. I Throughout the whole date, I

0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:31.399
<v Speaker 3>had written pre written compliments for I was really excited

0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:35.560
<v Speaker 3>to see this person, Okay, and every like I think

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<v Speaker 3>like every thirty minutes or so or twenty minutes, I

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<v Speaker 3>would give her a piece of paper and I'd be like,

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 3>I think you're so amazing. And then the end of it,

0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:45.359
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I think you should be going to go. Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I had like ten ten outs I've written at and

0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:49.120
<v Speaker 3>I kept giving it to him. I was like, oh,

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 3>I said, this is this makes me feel good because

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<v Speaker 3>it's intentional.

0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:54.919
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, and you got to think about really what

0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:57.199
<v Speaker 2>you wanted to say, instead of just trying to come

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<v Speaker 2>up with them on the spot.

0:22:58.160 --> 0:22:59.879
<v Speaker 3>And it makes it feel special. Yeah, that's the.

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 2>That's the most important. So let's go back to let's

0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:10.920
<v Speaker 2>say you're sixteen and you start looking for brand deals.

0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Not that that was a thing when you were sixteen,

0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 2>but let's say that it was. What are if some

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:18.679
<v Speaker 2>of the products you hope reach out to you?

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:23.720
<v Speaker 3>Links deodorant which like our acts, you guys have a

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 3>that's the one. Yeah, so it's rebranded Links in Australia,

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:32.400
<v Speaker 3>I think l y n X and love them. And

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Colgate toothpaste.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, you've always been a cold Gate guy.

0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:37.480
<v Speaker 3>No, I hate them so much now.

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:39.520
<v Speaker 2>But back then you loved it.

0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I used to have the yellow his teeth

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 3>but I just yeah, and Mathwash. I was a big

0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:48.359
<v Speaker 3>Listinge mathwash guy. Okay, yeah, but then apparently that's also

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:48.960
<v Speaker 3>not good for you.

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I know, you know what, Nothing is anything good for us? No, yeah,

0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:54.439
<v Speaker 2>whatever whatever you currently are using, it's bad for you.

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Whatever you used to use is now better for you,

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever, and then five years it will change again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Actually, back then I had braces and blocks and

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:05.440
<v Speaker 3>rubber bands, so yeah, maybe teeth self would have been cool.

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, did you have a favorite food or snack?

0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 3>No, I was like thee of a horse, so I

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 3>just eat everything. And when I was sixteen, I was

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 3>just I couldn't eat enough food. It was wild.

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 2>But you said you were built like an asparagus, which

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 2>is the opposite of a horse. So when did you

0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:22.240
<v Speaker 2>go from asparagus to horse?

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:25.000
<v Speaker 3>I think when I was like twenty two, okay, when

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 3>I started to fill out. But yeah, back then I

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:29.880
<v Speaker 3>was more like a flamingo, I think, okay, skinny legs

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 3>and just a pop belly. Hot. It was a unique look.

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a favorite reality TV show you have

0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 2>not appeared on.

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:42.959
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I just finished Traders? Have you been watching Traders?

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 2>I have seen Traders yet.

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Would you do it? Have you done it?

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:47.880
<v Speaker 2>No, I've not done it, and I think I would

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 2>be terrible at it. Would you want to be a

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 2>faithful or a Trader?

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 3>Trader? For sure? Trader, I'll get caught out right away,

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 3>you think so? For sure? I'm so bad at Lie. No,

0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:59.679
<v Speaker 3>it's all the other shows where I kissed go and

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:00.439
<v Speaker 3>I about it.

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm wanting I'm like.

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 3>This guy's stupid. You can see it.

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:10.360
<v Speaker 5>You can see what I'm lying, like, no way, Yeah,

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:13.679
<v Speaker 5>and then I'm like I'm exaggerating, Like tell them to

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 5>pull up the replay.

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 3>This is a TV show, right, They're like, this guy's

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 3>an idiot, Like why so me as a as a

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 3>trade to go? We didn't kill with that person. I

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 3>didn't mean we they literally I would just but I

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 3>was being obsessed with that because I've had a few

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 3>of them on my podcast and I just think, like

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 3>the whole experience would be cool.

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:35.360
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 3>No, one didn't chest me. Let's marry Harry was my

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 3>retirement one.

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay. I want to get to that in a second,

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 2>but before I do, I do want to talk about

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:51.880
<v Speaker 2>your crossover into traditional movies real acting you're doing now, Yeah,

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 2>what do you like more? Do you like being yourself

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 2>on reality TV or a heightened version of yourself on

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 2>reality TV? Or do you prefer something that's scripted where

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<v Speaker 2>you get to play a character.

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 3>I love acting because everyone has the I guess the

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 3>main essence of it is it's someone's dream and their idea,

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 3>and I love being a part of someone's dream. Like

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 3>I love being like, oh my god, I get to

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 3>be an accessory, like because you know how it is.

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 3>It takes forever to get a thought to film. Oh yes,

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:22.679
<v Speaker 3>like I thought in front of the consumer and like

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 3>so many corporate meetings and then who's the right person

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 3>for this position? And then rewrites the script Like there's

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 3>just so much stuff that goes into it. And just

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 3>like I'm not saying reality TV isn't like that, But

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 3>when everyone's on set, everyone knows the game plan, everyone's

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 3>read the script, everyone's so excited about it. Everyone knows

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:43.639
<v Speaker 3>what they need in the scene, right, And I just

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 3>love that, Like I love that idea and I love that,

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 3>Like I think reality TV is a little bit more

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 3>like unraveled, Like it's just you could be filming twenty

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:54.440
<v Speaker 3>hours a day. You could be all over the place.

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 3>You don't know what the scene is going to give.

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 3>You don't know if you've got to hit or not hit.

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 3>But like when you're on set, like you can feel, yeah,

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 3>the vibe on a script it said so the movies

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 3>I have done, Like I just really love that, And

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 3>I just love seeing people like reading nail it like.

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Wow, and you love obviously, like you just said that collaborative.

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.360
<v Speaker 2>We're all it, We're all on the same team. We're

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 2>all going for the same goal, and now we're just

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 2>going to talk out what the best avenue is to

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 2>get there.

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 5>Cool.

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like reality TV.

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 2>It's like you don't even know what the storyline.

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Is, kiss that go and then lie about.

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 2>It, right, right? And are they that direct? No, it's

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 2>my brain, right, but they are right, they are. They

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 2>are thinking like, let's see if he'll get drunk and

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:39.680
<v Speaker 2>kiss that girl and then lie about it, and then

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 2>you'll have a show.

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 3>And he'll do it every time.

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 2>You gotta get you gotta get that guy.

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Thing is whatever our vought show. And I hear producer

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 3>was someone to say, she's getting boring. I'm be one second,

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 3>hold on, hold on, what do we got to do?

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 3>That's the because I'm just like I remember like earlier shows,

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 3>like I would just be a menace, Like I would

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 3>go into something like there's obviously there's different couples, right,

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 3>I'd take something out of someone's bag and put it

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 3>in someone else's bag like they're gonna fight it. And

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 3>then I go like, because everyone's.

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Over, producer's dreamy and just take away all the bad

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 2>producer responsibility from them and you do it for them.

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, free. He's so stupid. And I remember Perfect Match

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 3>was like one nighter, no one was doing anything, and

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:27.199
<v Speaker 3>I was so drunk, so I just said, go to

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 3>the mayonnaise and walk around like feeding, feeding everyone mayonnaise.

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 4>You have to eat it. It's so good. Never made

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 4>the cut.

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 3>It was just so weird, right.

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:36.880
<v Speaker 2>But you know it. It was an experience that you'll

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 2>have and everyone there, everyone.

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Now had to tell me for the mayonnaise.

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they will get to tell everyone Harry loves

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 2>feeding people mayonnaise when he gets drunk.

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Ye, very good.

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to pitch you a movie. Okay, that's good,

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty earnest. I'm serious here. I want you to

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 2>do a three Amigo's reboot with Rob Roush and Dylan

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 2>that Ron.

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Wow, that would be cool. But they really nice, so sweet.

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Steve Martin and Martin short and then you

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 2>could be Chevy Cha perfect.

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I love I really love Dylan. I haven't met Rob.

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I have, I'm not sure, but Dylan is the

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 3>best guy ever.

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 2>I know.

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 4>He's so sweet.

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 2>I know what's going on. Yeah, just the nicest, the nicest, true,

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 2>like salt of the Earth. It's like, no surprise too

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 2>that then he and Robert Irwin connected because it's again

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 2>another guy. You're just like, is there a single bad

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 2>bone or even just a bit of a bone. I

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 2>don't think so. No bones, No bones, They're made of mayonnaise.

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:42.959
<v Speaker 2>It's it's just incredible.

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:44.479
<v Speaker 3>Let's go, how do we get that?

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 2>And now that I've said it's manifested for you, I

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 2>know you got to meet Tom Cruise during his mission

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Impossible Press Roun. Wow was he your guy?

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Who were your celebrities growing up?

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Justin Bieber always number one?

0:29:58.960 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Number one?

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Adams, he's he's just the coolest guy. Tom Cruise obviously, Wow,

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 3>Like I think and Brad Pitt probably I got it.

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 2>I know.

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 3>The thing is that it's when you meet people like that,

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 3>like maybe it's different, but I'm like, I don't know

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 3>what to do with my hands. I don't know what

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.239
<v Speaker 3>to look like. I met Tom and I was like,

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 3>we've got to mutual friend, right, and he was like okay.

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I've done plates with Glenn Powell one time,

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 3>and he was like he's done plates with Glenn. And

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 3>then I'm like, okay, who did he say that to?

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 3>She's like looked at like there was so many people

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 3>and I looked at the crowd and I was like, oh,

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, mister Cruise. Can we

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 3>just take the.

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Could you send me your cake?

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 3>You cake?

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 2>I want to be on the cake list?

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Wait? What's the cake list?

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Is Tom Cruise? Everybody he works with, he then the

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 2>following year sends them a cake. Everyone. He remembers everybody's names.

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 2>He sends them like a person. It's a Christmas gift,

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 2>he sends them. Uh, I think it's a sweet lead. No,

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 2>it's not a sweet lady. Jane's a Woodland Hills cake

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Don's Bakery. It's famous and people who get it now

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, Hollywood Lore, are you on the

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Tom Cruise list to get the cake? And now with

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>social media, people who get them will open them up

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 2>and put into them and take bites.

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 3>I lie, I'm gonna buy one from this place.

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 2>And I think, okay, thanks Tom, do it great? Put

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 2>on the list, suggests not sure how we got a cake.

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna lie like, yeah, guys, thanks, thank you.

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 3>I really should make miss possible the next one. I'm

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 3>the lead.

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm the lead to Tom.

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm stepping it his replacement.

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 5>He sees the potential off his one really AWKWD interview interaction.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have any celebrity crushes growing up?

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 5>God?

0:31:56.400 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, obviously Angela and Joy.

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on, come on, who didn't have a

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 2>crush on Angela and Yeah, mister and.

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Missus Smith, I think that was I'm like, I need

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 3>a love that reality. Maybe it's them too.

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 2>They that's we can blame them. We can totally blame

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 2>the two of them.

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, mister missus Smith. If it wasn't for that, I

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be in reality, it would never happened.

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 7>Love life would have been perfect. Yeah, I think that's okay.

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you have any cool young suggestions for me? Before

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:51.239
<v Speaker 2>we started this podcast, we talked about your pants that

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:54.479
<v Speaker 2>are dirty on purpose? There you paid extra money for

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 2>this dirt? That could be something? What could I do

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>as a mid forties mom of two? How did? What

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 2>could I do to be cooler?

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 3>So you didn't strike me as Sony's dirty?

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 2>So thank you.

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Let's cut out the dirty pants. You know you didn't

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:12.239
<v Speaker 3>need to do that. Okay, I think you question You've

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 3>got a podcast?

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, very cool?

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 3>The coolest thing you could have ever done? Okay, okay,

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 3>I we love hots.

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 2>We love them. I know how to do the I

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 2>know how to do the young gen Z verse.

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 3>Isn't it the heart?

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 2>You can do it with all of them?

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't think that's right.

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 4>I think yeah, I think there's something with the pinkies

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 4>this one.

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Am I getting old? What's good?

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Exactly what? But I'm matching it with yours? So we

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 2>do it together? See?

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 3>Am I did I just age myself?

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy or old?

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? So I'm the oldest person in life. I don't know.

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 3>I feel like health and wellness is really into.

0:33:56.440 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 2>So okayptides, Oh what do you say? It could be

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 2>one five.

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm taking the Glimmax. No, the Glimax and NAD so Glomax.

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I know about all about NAD. I hadn't an AD

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 2>shot not that long ago. And it bruised the back

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 2>of my arm.

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't even feel.

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 2>It, but I yeah, I don't. I think I bruised

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 2>like a peach.

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh you do? Yea?

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's nice and sensitive and sweet.

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm just little, you up?

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:23.840
<v Speaker 3>I think yeah? I think Glomax is GHK CU and

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 3>it BP one and then there's something else. But it's

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 3>talking meant to be really good and good for your skins.

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And I just want people to know, not that

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm anti your your health and wellness thing, but for

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 2>people who I had cancer in twenty twenty four and peptides,

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons they're so good for your skin

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 2>is that they promote cell turnover. One of the things

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 2>you don't want if you have cancer is those cells

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 2>to turnover. And multi three times you had what three

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:57.879
<v Speaker 2>times skin cancer? Okay, So what I'm saying is peptides

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 2>right now are kind of all the rage, but they're

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 2>not for everyone. So worth possibly talking to your dermatologist

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 2>to say, is there is there a potential for my

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 2>skin cancer cells to be regenerating? Because I love lying

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:17.239
<v Speaker 2>to it.

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 4>You just love God, it makes you feel better.

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I like to my therapist. I don't

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:28.719
<v Speaker 2>like to my oncologist. Okay, you know, pick and choose

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 2>the doctors you lie to.

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 3>Friend, Okay, that's a good point.

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 2>You don't even have to tell me the name. Just

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 2>what's the oldest person you've ever had slide into your DMS?

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:51.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh uh, I don't know, like a seventies eighties, but

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 3>that's who the stars is going. Like the average the

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 3>average audience age is sixty. I believe maybe it's changed now,

0:35:58.320 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 3>but when I was on the show, there was sixty

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 3>and after that I add some some freaky older ladies.

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 3>I want to taste of the sausage. You know, I

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:13.319
<v Speaker 3>was gonna say apple pie, but I don't know why

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 3>shut up.

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I am about ready to wrap up my ballroom career

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 2>with a few final dates on the Dancing with the

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Stars Live Tour. And you competed and also hit the road.

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.839
<v Speaker 2>Did you have as much fun on the show as

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 2>I have been having, which is immeasurable amounts of fun?

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 2>In case you were good time in my life?

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to die.

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Did you know? It was the best experience ever, so

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.319
<v Speaker 3>rewarding and amazing. I just never danced in my life.

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, well you a little and easy to

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 3>move now?

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I can.

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm a tree. And one of the judges, like one

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 3>of the extra judges, one day, he was like, are

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 3>you a tree trunk? You don't know what's going on

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 3>out I'm trying, You're correct.

0:36:58.440 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 4>So when I was on tour, I came out as

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 4>a t and it was really fun. But no, I

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:04.839
<v Speaker 4>had the best time.

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Everyone was really lovely and then they weren't, and then

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 3>they weren't. Yeah, because you know, cool when the next

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 3>season comes around, so everyone stops talking to you.

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, I mean also, you know what that schedule's like.

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:18.839
<v Speaker 2>When the next season comes around, they're locked in. Boy,

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 2>you have no time for anything. I was. I was

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 2>a little surprised by how much of my life had absorbed.

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. He deletes every plan and everything that you have. Yeah.

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 3>The next season came around the show, and I realized

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 3>like a lot of the people were not text me

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 3>back or on following me. And actually, the biggest thing

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 3>that upset me, the most biggest thing that upset me

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:40.439
<v Speaker 3>the most is when my dad had passed, no one

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:43.400
<v Speaker 3>text me, and I was really close to them. No

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 3>one had texted me apart from Sasha, and I was like, okay,

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 3>So I was like, I don't know if you guys

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 3>are really my friends or it was just it was horrible.

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:51.879
<v Speaker 4>It was right.

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 2>That was a very telling moment for you.

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And also I think the hardest thing was like

0:37:56.440 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 3>I was trying my best with all the noise and rething.

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 4>But I just think I'm I'm kind of.

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Glad that I'm not friends with any of them because

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 3>of when my dad had passed that I was like,

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 3>there was one of them. I was training in the

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 3>gym with him like every day, and I'm like, oh,

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:14.919
<v Speaker 3>I could and I told him that my dad was sick,

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 3>and there was a lot of them, and I knew

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 3>that they knew that someone was going on.

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:19.959
<v Speaker 4>I think that was the thing that felt most.

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 3>It's like, oh, okay, there's.

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 2>No denying he knew.

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no denying that, and you could have texted or

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 3>anything like that. But when I posted the photo like

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 3>and my dad's passed, they just like it. And I'm like,

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 3>I would have moved mountains, Like if it was you,

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 3>I would have been there. So I think that's why

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm kind of glad that that chapter.

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Is behind you.

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I don't know if you're really real people.

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 3>But it's all good because I think when you're in

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:47.399
<v Speaker 3>that show, and I've spoken to other people that want

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 3>the show too, like it's just such a bubble and

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 3>you see like it's it's such a bubble and nothing

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 3>else matters. And I think like when you when you're

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 3>a dancer and you on that show, that's like you

0:38:57.680 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 3>made the NFL because like a lot of the other

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 3>pros that like leave the show that kind of like

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.839
<v Speaker 3>the outcasts. They don't really talk to them, so it's

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 3>a bit weird. Anyway, I'm probably going to get in.

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 6>Trouble for that.

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't really care.

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 2>You've mentioned a couple of times about your dad passing,

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 2>so it's obviously something that still deeply affects you when

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:15.280
<v Speaker 2>you were close to your dad. You've had great stories

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:18.239
<v Speaker 2>in this podcast about do you want to talk a

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 2>little more about your dad? Is there anything in particular

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 2>you want to say, or.

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:24.839
<v Speaker 3>I just it's like, grief is so fun and I

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 3>love I love thinking about my dad and I love

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 3>getting the opportunity to talk about like lost one like

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 3>lost loved ones because it's really like that was the

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:37.439
<v Speaker 3>hard the hardest thing I've ever experienced is watching him

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 3>take his last breath.

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 4>But that was such a beautiful thing to be a

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 4>part of.

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 3>And I think you learn a lot about your environment

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 3>and your people and who really cares and who's really

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 3>there when you're going through something so humanizing and something

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 3>so like traumatic, and I'm just I was just so

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 3>grateful that I was there to be there and experience that.

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 3>But like there's so much drama around death too, Like

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 3>family is so silly and sassy. Yes, Like isn't it

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 3>kind of funny how people.

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 4>Get when someone goes.

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 3>But I just love, yeah, I just I love being

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 3>able to talk about him because he's he's my whole personality,

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:25.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, like my dad was when growing up. He's

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 3>the biggest flirt in front of mom. He's flirting with

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 3>the waitress. He's teaching me how to tip. I remember

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.719
<v Speaker 3>we would be first time I ever tipped, because tipping

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 3>is on a thing in Australia. But if someone's really good,

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 3>my dad would be like, here's some cash. You got

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 3>to shake their hand and and I'm like, okay, that's

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 3>cool because you don't want other people to see it

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 3>because then they thing that they get to like, okay,

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:47.800
<v Speaker 3>it's like only the good.

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 2>One, only the good one.

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:52.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, But I love, like, I just love thinking

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 3>about that stuff because she's all fleeting, right, And I

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 3>guess that's where my journey with religion and it's going

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 3>now because I remember sitting now with him because he

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 3>went through with his sister dying and that was the

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.760
<v Speaker 3>scariest thing but the most beautiful thing on the planet

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:11.399
<v Speaker 3>because you get to know that he's this is the day,

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 3>like he gets to choose and you get to be there.

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 3>You get to spend every day with him, and that

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 3>was really cool. But uh wow, yeah, it was just

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 3>like obviously every relationship and every relationship with your parents

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:27.919
<v Speaker 3>is up and down, and I had so many I'd

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 3>like two or three years right, didn't talk to him

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 3>because he struggled with alcohol, and we had this very

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 3>rocky relationship, but as as anyone does. Like not no relationships, absolutely,

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.360
<v Speaker 3>but I just I'm so grateful that we got to

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:44.840
<v Speaker 3>we got to know, and I got to look back

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:47.879
<v Speaker 3>and it's just all those hard days and all those

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 3>happy days. Just be grateful because my.

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 2>Dad, Yeah, it's really nice that you were there too

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 2>for those those last moments. I really think are like

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 2>just one of the points of life.

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so like is it so? I remember Alex

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Warren was talking about it when his parents had passed

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 3>that like he was in the hospital and his whole

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 3>world is just like flipped on its head, Like it's

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 3>the hardest thing is they ever gone through. And then

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:19.320
<v Speaker 3>he walks outside.

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:20.720
<v Speaker 2>And the world is all just moving.

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, people are driving past.

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 3>No one cares. And that's why I felt like. I

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.800
<v Speaker 3>remember because he had a drink and he went to sleep,

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 3>and remember seeing there. I was like, because my sister Sarah,

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:32.840
<v Speaker 3>she said, hold his feet, You'll get allose magic powers

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 3>when he goes over. So I'm sitting there holding his

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:38.840
<v Speaker 3>feet and he takes his last breath. I remember, I

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 3>was like, Wow, this is really tough, but this is

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 3>the hardest thing ever there. I can't be in this room.

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:46.800
<v Speaker 3>So I went outside and went and cried in a bush.

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking him like no one, no one else, no

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:55.800
<v Speaker 3>one cares about what just said, Like this is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very isolating wowing yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But then this, yeah, the same thing, Like I just

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<v Speaker 3>look at older people that reached out, Like there was

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 3>friends that were like, I'll fight in New Zealand right now. Yeah,

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.240
<v Speaker 3>there was friends that were like, I'll literally do anything

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.319
<v Speaker 3>that you need. I'll be there whatever else. And then

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:16.280
<v Speaker 3>there was a lot of friends that didn't. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>even text what it is and it's not like I

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 3>needed it, Like I'm good and I had my sisters.

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<v Speaker 4>But god, it's nice to just know that because.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it's but well, I was gonna say a birthday text,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's a little bit. You can let that slide.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can let that one go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no,

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. Grief and death, though, does everybody

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 2>responds very differently. Some people really like I, I don't

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 2>know what to say, and that not knowing what to

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 2>say paralyzes you. And certainly there are other people who

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 2>are just assholes and are just like gonna be callous

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 2>and not care. But also for other people, it can

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to say, I don't want to

0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:59.360
<v Speaker 2>do I call, and if I call, am I interrupting? Am? I?

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, everyone can make people weirdy, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Death is so scary, and I think the only thing

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 3>because now I guess I'm the spokesperson for the dead

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:12.759
<v Speaker 3>Dad Club with all my friends. So I've had a

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 3>few friends now who've lost parents, And my best advice

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<v Speaker 3>to anyone if they have a friend that's lost someone

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 3>or whatever else, is just them knowing that you're there

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 3>is super important. So like the greatest thing, the greatest

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.439
<v Speaker 3>gift that I learned was that I don't want people

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 3>calling me all the time. I don't want on a

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 3>good day, like if someone's blowing my phone up, it's horrible.

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 3>But on those moments, I just if you text your friend.

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Like, hey, thinking about you, thinking.

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 3>About you, whatever, you need them here, love you so

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 3>much like that. Wow, if I had that from half

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:49.400
<v Speaker 3>the people that I'm angry at, it would have been

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 3>a different story and I still would have tried to help.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and yeah, so anyway, thank you for sharing all

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 2>with me. That was very special. So let's talk very

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 2>briefly about Let's Marry Harry executive produced by Alex Cooper

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 2>for Netflix. Outside of assuming you just picked sea at

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 2>the end, we don't know anything about it. What can

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:13.839
<v Speaker 2>you tell us?

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 3>So it does get picked at the end. No, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what's funny is she texts me and she went

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 3>by me saying this. She text me, she goes, if

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 3>they're all duds, Harry, just let me know, come save

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:32.279
<v Speaker 3>the day. She's awesome. She's so funny, like we have

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 3>such a good relationship. She's like, just let me know

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 3>if you don't having a good time, and I'll come

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 3>save the day. And I'm like, okay, cool. But it

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:44.719
<v Speaker 3>is that was one of the hardest things I've ever done. Yeah,

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 3>a lot of stuff with my dad is going to

0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:51.360
<v Speaker 3>be in there. She was really like, ah, I guess

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 3>vulnerable and opens me up more than I've ever been

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 3>up and up on the show before. And I think, also,

0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.879
<v Speaker 3>it's different this time because i'd have to be any

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.879
<v Speaker 3>but myself. Yeah, I don't have to compete with other

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:05.160
<v Speaker 3>guys for screen time or I don't have to hide

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 3>stuff in people's rooms. But there's obviously a lot of drama,

0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:17.240
<v Speaker 3>way too much drama, a lot of sleepless nights, pretty

0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:21.799
<v Speaker 3>pretty chaotic show, amazing cast, like the most beautiful cast

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 3>on the planet ever to exist, most incredible stories, the

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:28.839
<v Speaker 3>most incredible people, And I just think that it's going

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 3>to be such a wild ride for everyone to come on.

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of cringe moments. I'm sure that I've

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 3>done a lot of embarrassing things that I've done, and

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 3>I just, yeah, I would sink I'm going to be

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:45.320
<v Speaker 3>watching through my fingers.

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now that you're at this phase of life where

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 2>you are ready to settle down, do you hate watching

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 2>old reality clips of young f boy? Harry can't do it.

0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:58.279
<v Speaker 3>Like it's nice to look back and be like, oh,

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be like that anymore. Right, Well, say,

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 3>my whole dating life has been on TV sincey nineteen.

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:04.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so.

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of yeah, a lot of silly decisions,

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 3>of course, but yeah, now I'm glad it's wrapped up.

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 2>Okay, good. When you get Harry Jowsey, you don't just

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 2>let him leave that easy. He's going to stick around

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 2>for a bonus episode where we will listen to one

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:24.080
<v Speaker 2>of your voicemails. It'll premiere this Friday on the dedicated

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:26.839
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0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:29.920
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0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:36.680
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