1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: I got shows coming up, people, and I really want 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: to see you there. So let me give you some 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: specifics so you can get tickets and make plans. November 4 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: eighteen November twenties, I will be at the Helium Nightclub 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: in Portland, Oregon. On November twenty seven for one night only. 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: I'll be in Calgary, Alberta at the Southern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium, 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: and that is a charity show for the Owen Heart Foundation. 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: From December two through December four, I'll be in Rochester, 9 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: New York at Comedy at the Carlson. And right now, 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: those are all the dates I'm gonna give you. If 11 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: you want more, check me out on my website. I 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: was in New York and in Carolina. You know, I'm 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: saying like it was like I spent some I'm in 14 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: high school, so he was the cool kid when you 15 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: go to Carolina. Yeah, yeah, very much. So like I 16 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: see whatever I mean, Like whenever I meet guys from Carrol, 17 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: North Carolina, and I'm like why they're very East Coast 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: hip hop orient and I'm like, how did that happen? 19 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: Because I kind of had it backwards with a lot 20 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: of New York kids had to spend the summer and 21 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: down south. You know what I'm saying. I was in 22 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: high school out south, I spent I couldn't wait to 23 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: get back home as soon as as soon as the 24 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: last bellows done, I'm I know, to ask permission, like 25 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm already a little grown man. That's the first version 26 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: of black privilege right there, because we didn't have nobody 27 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: in the South to go to unless were all the 28 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: way south to to to the Islands. When y'all were 29 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: going to Atlanta, I was like, y'all could go to Atlanta. 30 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: But but but but but but but but I see 31 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: I had the best of both the world because because 32 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know, like when 33 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: they going our south, y'all might be going to Puerto 34 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: Rico or the Cuba. YEA saying like what have you 35 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like they just going down south? 36 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like when you were going 37 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: back to school, was you bringing down tapes times? Like 38 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: like that's your question. I'm about to answer your question, 39 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: like like you know as far as me when I 40 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: when like I knew that hip hop, like when people 41 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: were like it's a fat de set me up. I 42 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: thought they would have taught it listening. But I ain't 43 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: say nothing because I carried it from New York down south. 44 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: And that's how it affected the cast around me, you 45 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: know I'm saying, And that I was willing to carry it. 46 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: It was here, it was there was there was no 47 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: doubt it was hit. It was just a matter of 48 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: what we were gonna do with it, you know what 49 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But but I saw its ability early. I 50 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: remember the first time I heard him beat on television, 51 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I knew what it meant 52 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: when it happened, because prior to that, I never heard 53 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: a beat on television, what I'm saying. So just to 54 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: hear a beat on television and someone talking over to 55 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: selling something meant that we was next. You know what 56 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying. We went went next, you know what I'm saying. 57 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: And we had a ride. We was here. There was 58 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: there was no turning the back. We were music. You know, 59 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: same year did you start every hip hop like got involved? Um? 60 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: I mean probably. I mean like from the first time 61 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: I really ever heard anyone ever spit around or even 62 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: moment your first song that you heard then was it 63 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: was one of those cold crush mixtapes. No, not not 64 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: not not that because I'm still going back and forth, 65 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and like I'm probably here 66 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: and know king to the third or you know what 67 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, we were roads king to all that ship. 68 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: That was all that before Rappers Delight. No, that was 69 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: all after because I didn't know right well, you know 70 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: you gotta remember so rappers. When Rappers the Light hit 71 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: here in l A. It was like it was an 72 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: extension of disco because it was the chic song that 73 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: they were using. So it's like, oh, they're just they're 74 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: just doing some kind of flow over the chick song, 75 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: right right. I thought there was gonna be a fat 76 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: that it was gonna go. I really did. Yeah, yeah, 77 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: either I fell in love with it off the rim. 78 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: I was in love with it, but I just said 79 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: it's so good it can't last, This can't la. Yeah, 80 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: No I did. I didn't say that, Yeah, yeah, just 81 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: ultimately like like yeah, like it just spoke to us 82 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: like like especially I think especially once the first time 83 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 1: I have a touch viol I'm saying that probably would 84 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: have been see if you can relate to me, on 85 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: this three. If you going late to me on this, 86 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: you know you guys were you guys were all about 87 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: hipotolyze because you guys were on the East coast right, 88 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: thank you, sir. So here we couldn't relate to it 89 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: because we didn't have it in our face. So when, 90 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: of course, when it got hot here, you know you 91 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: had your early early hip hopcasts that was doing their things, 92 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: KINGT and and help me here when somebody cats that 93 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: were early early on, well you probably heard of these cats, 94 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: least Jam radio Activity Crew, Yes them, dude, you probably 95 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: heard Egyptian, Egyptian Lover and Rodney and Joe Crew and so. 96 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: And then when ice Cube not ice Cube, but when uh, 97 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: when n w A hit um with with ice Cube 98 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: and all them cats, that's when we felt it at 99 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: least that somebody was like probably something for us other 100 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: than that. Other than that, I just thought it was like, oh, 101 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: that's some New York ships, just like how d C 102 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: has house music nevers not not not and and that's 103 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: a valid statement when you're landing up next to Go Go. 104 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: But because I would have thought that Bogo as well 105 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: would be something that we all would be someone because 106 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: it's an amazing form of music and amazing Gogo was beautiful, right, 107 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: but and the fact that we all can't save five 108 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: Gogo records that right now till I can't current DC. 109 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna tell you something that's that's a 110 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: real bother point. Yeah, Like I came out there really 111 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: wasn't accepted that record as a gol record in dcase 112 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: commercial because it was too commercial. There was a way 113 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: to commercial and there was like the audacity of Sugar 114 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: beand Gold in the studio and cut of this record 115 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: because what what what people never on the student about 116 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: gog Go Go. First of all, it's because it continued 117 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: and he that was happen. He didn't know I was 118 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: gonna even know that was gonna happen. But the people 119 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: look at it. But the people they look at it 120 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: like but but they should never look at that ever 121 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: because because they know there's no artist that's going in 122 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: there to make you feel like that. Never. But but 123 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: the thing the key of of Google has always been 124 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: the live the PA tapes or to this day you're 125 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: going by p A tapes, Like if you go to 126 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: the club, any club and they're playing Gold, that they 127 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: have a live band. People will wait to the to 128 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: the Southman edit that joint and he really doesn't edit it, 129 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: and you just make copies and you and you buy them. 130 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: Because the key of Gogo is a life fields. It's 131 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: one of those music that it's a reaction actually, you know, 132 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: but the band is giving you rock the bells is 133 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: a go go sample. Yeah, So that's a lot of 134 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: songs that, Yeah, there's a lot of us now, Rich 135 00:06:53,360 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: Harrison says from d C. But it it than itself 136 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: is amazing, like like like this should be so much 137 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: more usage and and and us understanding. Especially I think 138 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: in black and Latin culture it's it's it's of I know, 139 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: well it's of us and I tell you this much. 140 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: And and I was blessed to have a good friendship 141 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: with the Guyfaller girl who pass away to Chuck Ground 142 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: and interview him, and he said what he did was 143 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: that he mixed gospel with salsa because he was he 144 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: used to be in the Latin bag too, so why 145 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: he didn't mix it. And he just saw that people 146 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: started getting this reaction when he was you know, when 147 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: it was playing, so they just kept on. Yeah, which 148 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: is another genre that that kind of guy went away 149 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: sound and also freestyle music was another Did that ever 150 00:07:48,400 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: reach over in freestyle? Yeah yeah, guy populacy stuff, Yeah yeah, 151 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: we see in Toronto. We alwa start free style came 152 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: out of Miami. Yeah, bass right yeah, but thought it 153 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: was based well even like one Way t K and 154 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: all that ship set Melendez or whatever, you know, all 155 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: that ship we thought it was off from Miami. We 156 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: didn't realize what's coming from you really got the party started? 157 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: Yeah music, if anybody ever up rock love love, there 158 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: was a quick moment. There was a quick moment when 159 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: the boys, the younger, the next generation of the boys, 160 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: they only have free style to dance too because it 161 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: was up tempo, right, And if he spoke to K seven, 162 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: he wrote a lot of like Maria to like Spoony 163 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: g and wrote his verse and then the music was 164 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: done and he put the you know what I mean, 165 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: that's that's how a lot of that was made. Put 166 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: my question, my question to to you when you get 167 00:08:55,080 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: back breaking or beach Street like is there do you 168 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: see it different from me? I saw a wild style first, 169 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: so I was like, yo, this ship is incredible, and 170 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: because it was what time, so I saw it, I 171 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: was in England on vacation with my family four and 172 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: it was like June mayor June, and I went when 173 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: I was to go to the video, so I rent 174 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: a video and I saw a wild style. I just 175 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: saw the graffiti and I was like, huh, I mean, 176 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: let me see what this is about. I didn't know 177 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: when I got it when I went. When I saw it, 178 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, what the fund because I 179 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: was already be boying already at the time. And I 180 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: was like, I got it because I thought it was 181 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a B boy movie. And then yeah, there 182 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: was some dancing in it. But then when I saw 183 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: how gritty the rhyming and the scenery was and how 184 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: shitty the acting was, I legit thought it was a 185 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: documentary at first. Can you break down the meeting of 186 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: the boy the actual dancing or so I was. I 187 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: was a breaker, I was break dancing, and I was 188 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: already into hit pop okay, So which means you were 189 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: already a B boy at that point, right, Okay? I 190 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: heard B boy in my entire life, and I've never 191 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm bold enough in this conversation to say, what the 192 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: fun is a B boy? Because you guys are gonna 193 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: share that with me. I've only yeah, you know the 194 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: B boys. Now I'm like this, I don't know what 195 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: to tell me. What when Crazy Legs comes in and 196 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: shake his hand and be like, and then that's a 197 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: B boy. But the problem with Run Run like the 198 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: term B boys so much that he started saying he 199 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: was a B boy. And then our Legs approached Run 200 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: about it, and he said, why are you calling yourself 201 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: a B boy when you don't dance? So if you 202 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: understand back then everybody got tested which was different. Bad 203 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: B boy made for the big girl legs what bad 204 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: But they didn't, you know, they didn't. They prided themselves like, no, no, no, 205 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: we're B boys. This is the definition of what we do. 206 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: You can't casually call yourself a boy and a B 207 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: boy basically as a break boy. Yes, wanted to. He 208 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: just liked the way it sounds like he thought it 209 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: was a bad boy so so so so you know 210 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: when you hear that, you know, Runs talking about getting 211 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: your B boy stands, I just don't care. That's some 212 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: bad boy ship. I mean I did not know, but 213 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: but I feel like like that Run co opted it 214 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: and that that the word kind of moved forward, you 215 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, to the degree when you talk 216 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: to purist or the question when I'm watching the question, 217 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: but I'm talking about I'm gonna let him know how 218 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: you feel. Yeah, not yeah, because just to say that 219 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: we have a caller, there's not a projects in New 220 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: York that that that that the entire crew hasn't still 221 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: in B boys stances and taking pictures. Absolutely, that's why. 222 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: That's because it's become true popular commercialized like EU when 223 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: they do doing the butt No not big boy, you 224 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: know boy m c s. And then they started doing 225 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: it D boy, which is a drug dealer who was 226 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: doing that. They got great start making money. I think 227 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: they embraced being a D boy within it, you know boy, 228 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: not not a that was different saying there's a difference 229 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: in doing it for the hustle and doing it from 230 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: the heart, you know what I'm saying. And you know, 231 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: like I get it. You can we can't knock it. 232 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: We can't knock the hustle, you know what I'm saying. 233 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: But sometimes the hustle is to be not you know 234 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, all good money, all money ain't good money. 235 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and I look at you 236 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: know sometimes when it took for us to have the 237 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: assortment of millionaires. You know that it's almost like you 238 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: know when when NA says the crack game, you know, 239 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: comparison to the rep Yet, well, we know what the 240 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: crack game did to the community, you know, I in 241 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: comparison to the rap game. Now let's let's let's juxtaposed 242 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: the ship. You know what I'm saying that again, doing 243 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: fund of the rap game, not not not not not 244 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: not not. I can't. I would only say that that's 245 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: a quarter if if if if a quarter like it 246 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: didn't stand up. But what what there is there is 247 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: a valid point. It didn't fund it. But the kids 248 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: who made songs, they would make songs for the drug dealer, 249 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: and it was a customized song. It was a lifestyle. 250 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: It was it was I think it's not not gonna hustle. 251 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm not not. But what I'm saying is that there's 252 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: a difference. You know what I'm saying. You can hear 253 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: a dude who was in a gang, in a gang 254 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: a year ago, he sees what everybody else is doing 255 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: making money and looking at all these holes in the video. 256 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: You want to do that now today, So he starts rapping. 257 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: But you can tell the difference. There is no you 258 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: can tell in his flow he's first of all, he's 259 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: not in the pocket. The second of all, you can 260 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: tell there's mad schools missing in terms of he never 261 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: battled in the park. If you can hear that, you 262 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: never battled in the backyard a party. And it's just 263 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: you can tell. All I want to do is get paid? 264 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: Are you talking about? In terms of l A that goes. 265 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: That's a blanket, but it goes. It goes for just 266 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: about any hood we're gonna you know, a guy wakes up. 267 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: He doesn't even do the knowledge anymore. He just wants 268 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: to be you know what I mean. He wants to 269 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: be that guy. He doesn't have to learn who Africa 270 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: Bambata is or who Coo Hrk was. 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I still 309 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: I still look at Nellie little a little to the 310 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: left for that, but just for saying that, because I 311 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: feel like you gotta know where you've been in order 312 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: to know where you're where you're going. But it got 313 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: to a point that didn't care about that. But but 314 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: but it's also thinking of the old The young screw 315 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: felt like the old school didn't give him their respect. Me, 316 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: this was before that. But but but this is what 317 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: he's talking about was before that. But this is the 318 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: division I'm talking about, where where the hustle and the heart? 319 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you know, like like 320 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: the ship was built on us doing it from the heart, 321 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: that the money didn't even exist. That's the one thing 322 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: I can say for my there was no money to 323 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: the exists, Like like that's the one thing we didn't see. 324 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: We did it for PLoud, Yeah, because we didn't. We 325 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: were to rock that problem. You wanted anybody talking about you, 326 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: We didn't. We did. Yeah, yeah, fuck the totem pole 327 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: to see to see what we're still amongst each other? Right, 328 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I started. I started because 329 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: I A. I just I wanted to hear this music. 330 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: And the only body I was going to hear this 331 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: if I played it myself. And you've been coming into it, 332 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: it's my word, like coming into it like like I'm 333 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: around cast I stepped into the room probably working on 334 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: their first album. You know what I'm saying. So as 335 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: much as Cats was getting paid up to that point, 336 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: is as much as as much as I'm seeing what 337 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying so Daylight is probably making the most money 338 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: out of everybody in the in the room. They're not rich, 339 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like like like this, I'm 340 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: a hustling kid. There's nothing they can do that I 341 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: can't do at this point in like so, let me saying, 342 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: do you because you look at hip up like that, 343 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: do you believe that that's one of the reasons why 344 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: all the coaches was able to come in and and 345 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: and snagging as as as own and ship as executive 346 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: of culture? You mean like the people that South you 347 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: know I'm talking about like white people. No, I think 348 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: that white people have zero now, but but white people 349 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: an impact. But white But if you look at it exactly, 350 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: if you look at ownership, you know what, there's a 351 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: difference between white and Jewish. They're not the same. Now, 352 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, let me say something to Gale Records. 353 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: They give a lot of love to to Uhlbinson, right, 354 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: but Sylvia Robinson partner was a gentleman from Yugoslavia and 355 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: he was the one holding down the money. It was 356 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: her husband and her. But narrative wise, it definitely looks 357 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: good because it's a black woman who was running the show. However, 358 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: when we learned later on, she jerked everybody and then 359 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: when they tried to sue us, she burned the building down. 360 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: Crazy And this is my word, like like motherfucker's be 361 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: using the same template that you know that that that 362 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: that was used in jazz, that was used. And I'm 363 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: saying that because because because at the end of the day, 364 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to taken I don't want to take 365 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: not away from you what you want, because because I 366 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: know it. The graffiti artists, they weren't listening to rap 367 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: music because there wasn't enough of it. You understand, they 368 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: were listening to rock. They were dressing like rock. But 369 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: they were living in the b X. They were living 370 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: in the hood. They were hanging and you know, and 371 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: some of them will be black, Latino or even white 372 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: because Melan Melan Melan would tell you they used to 373 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: go down to hang out cb GPS. That's where they 374 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: dressed like that and all the leathern ship. Yeah, yeah, 375 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: especially in New York and then there there's so many 376 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: different things. Yeah, to the radio was to it was 377 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: real pop and real rock. It was it was that 378 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: was that error right there. To be honest, it's crazy. 379 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the I saw this 380 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: thing about Arrowsmith and in the story of Arro Smith 381 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: with and the Crazy Partisan too. I saw that documentary. 382 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: I always thought that Arro Smith did rug DMC a favor. 383 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: Reality was that the favor because but neither one of 384 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: them wanted the record to be made. YEA, yeah, yeah, 385 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that it was broke. But let's not 386 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: just say that wasn't hit that song before that, it 387 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: was just the beauty, and I would call it beauty 388 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: that Rick Rubin starts. I mean, salute Larry Smith was 389 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: doing the early stuff, and then who was implementing the 390 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: rock sound? Then gets the Beasties and all the fresh 391 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: fest toys. Beasties was on it. Now you could now 392 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: people will come out to see Beasties. They'll see because 393 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: paused for one moment. Did you see the beast Boys phenomenon? 394 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: You could watch it a few times, yo, yo, big 395 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: salute to the BC boys. I had no idea. It 396 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: was much like a conversation with Ray Parker. I had 397 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: no idea the ship that they did behind the scenes 398 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 1: and didn't get credit for, you know what I'm say, 399 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: And they got jerked. They got jerked by rush like 400 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: they're white artists. Yeah, and I'm more responsible for some 401 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: ship that we give credit to other cats for at 402 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: the very beginning then is on the table. And let 403 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: me ask you guys a question, and this is this 404 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: is something I just need to I need to answer 405 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: as far as a musical artist, you know, whether it's 406 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: hip hop or whatever genre you're had. I've heard the 407 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: stories about the record label uh jerking cats and getting 408 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: them for their publishing or whatever it is, whatever the situation, 409 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: maybe no one particular case in mind, but is it 410 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: is it the artist's fault because they signed the contract? 411 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: But wait a minute, Holong, let me the Spanish. I'm 412 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: asking the question because you know, I remember hearing about 413 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: Tony Braxon's broke and this person is broke and all 414 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: the very gordy artists that were that were broken the day, 415 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: and you know, I know that he was doing them 416 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: a favor in a sense by signing them to a 417 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: contract by the Mama Cadillac, get them up out the 418 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: ghettos and stuff like that. And so I don't really 419 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: I don't have a dog in the fight that it 420 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But I'm just asking because I've always wanted 421 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: how does that happen because they they signed a contract. Yeah, 422 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean yeah, but listen, you're you're a 423 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: kid who grows up in the hood with nothing. Absolutely, 424 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: you're a kid who ends up some of them having lawyers, 425 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: like Dayla having lawyers, and probably you guys having lawyers, 426 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: and even white artists having lawyers. But again, a lot 427 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,479 Speaker 1: of the times these lawyers aren't guys that Dayla went 428 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: and seek out. These are lawyers that the label suggested 429 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: to them. Correct that these are guys that are in 430 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: their pocket alrighty, yes, you know, or that or from 431 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: a pool of of lawyers that are entertainment lawyers. Yeah, 432 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: you know, and you know that dude, that especially if 433 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: they're known, then that kind of what known means that 434 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: is that they play the game, you know, I'm saying. So, 435 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: like Twould agreed, I think it's some of both. Like, 436 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: definitely there's the naive even say, you know, saying that 437 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: exists in signing something so long and so open ended, 438 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But at the end of 439 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: the day, um, there's definitely definitely the when they say 440 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: we're giving you the standard, and that the standard screwing 441 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, what I'm saying, like like that this is 442 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: just a standard contract, which means which means we don't 443 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: know that everybody else got jerked. Yeah, yeah, because because 444 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: nobody was talking about getting jerked back right right right 445 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: right right right right right right. So it's just how 446 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: they got jerked. We're gonna give you the standard, right, 447 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But ask your lawyer, is 448 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: this the standards? This is the becomes it becomes a jerk. 449 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I love, I love, I love. Yeah, 450 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 1: in my opinion, ultimately it is the artist. Ultimately, yes, ultimately, 451 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: ulimately yess here and he got jerked. I'm gonna break 452 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: it down, but hold on, hold on. You get at 453 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: what's court was called a good a good um bill, 454 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: and I got jerked. Let me explain why. Because what 455 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: we're standard with a standard, if they give you something 456 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: that's slightly better than standard, which is what I got, 457 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: something that slightly better. Said, so I got a good deal. 458 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: I think I got like eleven points. When you come 459 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: to find out that eleven points is eleven percent and 460 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: that there's a hundred percent that exists out there, and 461 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: I am getting eleven percent of something that I created, 462 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: something that you created right right, So here in eleven 463 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: eleven eleven points seven, and they don't they don't they 464 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: don't say eleven percent, and the lawyer doesn't break down 465 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: eleven points wolves. Absolutely, I get that, you got it. 466 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: You've got eleven points and I'm just saying so so 467 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: off the door, there's there's there's language that both of 468 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: them are using. They're not on the same side, but 469 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: both of them are using language that you're not familiar with. 470 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: Off the rip. So our business TV, it's very similar 471 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: to the music industry. It's it's almost the same business 472 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: houses like this, no, no, no, but that's but that's 473 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: that's what you've given out a couple of coins. Yeah, 474 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: but I have. But here's the deal. But I know that, 475 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: I know that. Let me just give you an example. 476 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: I create the Jamie Fox Show with Jamie right, and 477 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: I know that show has made hundreds of millions of dollars, right. 478 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: I haven't seen a penny back in from that money 479 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: from that show yet, not one penny. Now, they gave 480 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: they gave me enough upfront to where I was. I 481 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: was smart enough to make some moves to get myself 482 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: in a comfortable position to live, right, But then you 483 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,479 Speaker 1: start going, hey, this should be an annuity. Am I 484 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: supposed to get money off of this for the rest 485 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: of my life? And I'm still waiting, and I'm going 486 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: to James, go ahead, hey man, we should go say 487 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: these people. Well, his position is he's doing movies for 488 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: Warner Brothers, so he don't want to sunk with it. 489 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: Don't want to right, So my but my thing is, well, 490 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: I'm not so. But then they make it so hard 491 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: because in order to even just go and get a 492 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: forensic accountant, you gotta put a potainer of probably a 493 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: hundred fifty grand dad and they might not find nothing. 494 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: So it's scaredn't even wanting to go to even pursue it. 495 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: In the return was you got famed, no jerk you 496 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 1: and stiff you real nice, but at least you know 497 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: you're a household that some cats. That was the trade off. Well, 498 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: here's the deal. I mean, if I if I know 499 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: I just use a broad example, if I know when 500 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson meant to the world, and I know he 501 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: wasn't a billionaire when he died, there's a problem with that. 502 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: That is a jerkin. But did he know what he 503 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: was saying, because if if you tell me that a 504 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: guy like jay Z is a billionaire, and that's no, no, 505 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: the smirchment on jay Z love him, right, But if 506 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 1: you tell me that he is the schman, that's right, 507 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: I'm going deep, it's real. It's but and if but 508 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: if he's if he's a billionaire, and Michael Jackson never 509 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: sees a billion dollars and we know what he meant 510 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: to the entire globe. Was that a screwing or did 511 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: is that just a standard that money didn't only come 512 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: from music, okay, in the stand, so they becomes from 513 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: other other business dealings that they can do, kind of 514 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: like we talked about Michael owning publishing. You know a 515 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: lot of other things that you do later in your life, 516 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: your business deals, your collaborations, your sponsorships and endorsements, clothing lines. 517 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: You know, they did three hundred million on clothing line 518 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: with Rockeware one year. And you know, it was very 519 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: it was it was, it was very fruitful. But now 520 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: we're arguably talking about the most popular face to ever 521 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: walk the planet, Earth's most recognizable face. Remember this about 522 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: remember this about those that Michael board costs them a 523 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: lot of money. Also, which guys, my dad has something 524 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: to say, Well, I think what it is with the industry. Also, 525 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: when they said is it the artist fall, it's two 526 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: levels of the game. When you get an entertainment lawyer, 527 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: he is that. That's what it is. He is a 528 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: entertainment lawyer. He has a lot of relationships with all 529 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: the people throughout the industry and those are his friends. 530 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: So he's gonna get you a good enough deal. Well, 531 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: is it gonna be the best deal? No? When you 532 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: have a problem with the labels, that entertainment lawyer wants 533 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: no part of that because now he has to go 534 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: against springs. He's not gonna lose all the money he 535 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: can make because you having a problem. And that's when 536 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: you gotta understand. You gotta get a litigator. Litigator don't 537 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: care about nobody. If you write you right, I'm gonna 538 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: fight with you. And that's what artists don't understand. When 539 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: it's a standard contract, it's a standard contract and it's 540 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: up to your lawyer plug the whole. I'll tell you. 541 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: When you're an artists with only one bite, one label 542 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: responded to you, and that's all You're no negotiating. That's 543 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: when you're in a situation like hold up, what am 544 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: I gonna do here? And we have to remember this 545 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: isn't the friendship business, it's the music business. This Thanksgiving, 546 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: be thankful for family food and free bets. That's right. 547 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: DraftKings sports book and official sports betting partner of the NFL, 548 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: has a Turkey Day no brainer you can't miss. 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And I think in those particular type of situations, 568 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: it's still not for you to sign this standard because 569 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: what the standard is is is it has you stretched out. 570 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: If these has to be the terms, if these has 571 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: to be the terms, let's let's let's do it. Let's 572 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's do it for one or two years. Yeah, 573 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying, but artists is gonna, you know, sign whatever, 574 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna figure it out later. I mean, that's 575 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: a couple. That's a couple of things that are going 576 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: to that. Number one, if you look at hip hop, 577 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: you have to be young. They don't go for a 578 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: guy that s thirty thirty five years old. They go 579 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: for the young people. That's one because reason because people 580 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: like like Russell said that coming from the hood that 581 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: ain't getting three meals a day. They're looking at all 582 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: these people. But he's a writer screw and they say 583 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: you you nice. You could be the next one. You 584 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: could be on the toll bus, you could be on 585 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: billboards that that those things are the shiny things to 586 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: a lot of artists. So artists that sound kids, but 587 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna get you young. Look at the artists come 588 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: out eight seventeen years old. Eighteen years They don't know, 589 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: they don't know about ship, they don't know about I 590 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: don't know about the role that that's that's now though, Yeah, 591 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: well that's happening, but it doesn't mean what's happening now, 592 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: it's the label doesn't look like they look like us. 593 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: So it's your own homies, your o g who's jerking you? 594 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: But but but it's I think it's worse not because 595 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: they're getting somebody's gut that three which christ which is 596 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: which is really? Because the money is in the brand, right, 597 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: the money and that's not even in the record. So 598 00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: whatever whatever you decide to be from rapper to actor, 599 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: let me that involves them. Was an old thought of thinking. 600 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: My point is with three sixty, deal with businessmen, right, 601 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: If you're doing three sixty with me, you're buying my brand. 602 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: That means you're trying to get in not only on music. 603 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 1: You're trying to get in my tease, my little goals. 604 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: You're trying to put my ship on Popeye's Chicken. You're 605 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: trying to do all of that. Right now, I have 606 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: to look at myself as a brand. Now, if I 607 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: sign that, then I'm coming from a place of weakness, 608 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: right I'm so I really work this angle, then that 609 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: can be pretty much a sad Rocky Megan the Stallion. 610 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: All these individuals, you know the value of their brand 611 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: now now they're putting themselves on the recist pieces they're 612 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: getting Wait wait, wait, wait, you said the Pacific point. 613 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: Those that know the value there, those that know, but 614 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: most people don't know. To the concept of three I 615 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: apologize now, the concept of three sixty that just came 616 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: with branding recently, merchandise, the sales of record, the label 617 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: says the label, the label says, you don't we don't 618 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: make enough money on The first thing that cut out 619 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: is the development of the artists. That's the first thing 620 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: that cut out. Well, sorry, the first thing they did that. 621 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: Then after that they cut out everybody in promotion is kept. 622 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: One person in promotion and going to VP of promotion 623 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 1: on the label. Right but all that all that person 624 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: is really doing, it's just talking to to the p 625 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: D and and right now is the city of vice 626 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: president of program the label that makes a decisions, not 627 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: even a program. So so the one thing that an 628 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: artist doesn't understand is that an artist doesn't number one. 629 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: They don't understand how those labels are in bed with 630 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: the with with the radio stations. So so that's how 631 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: they're able to give because I believe it or not, 632 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: to this day, artists want to hear this up on 633 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: the radio. They want to read is not even necessary nowaday, 634 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: but they want to hear this something pitical. But that's 635 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: reach it there because what they do is they appeal 636 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 1: to your ego exactly, and artists or ego driven humans, 637 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: that's just the way we are. Absolutely, and that's why 638 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: your ego is one of the things that I'm bringing out. 639 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: The ego and greed always sucking ruin everybody. Something we 640 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: learned from learn from. His music wasn't on the air, 641 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: but he was selling a lot. But this it's like 642 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: master p He was one of the people's genius. He 643 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 1: was one of the master was the genius what master 644 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: P did. And I never forget it's that massive master 645 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: P went to first, he hit the streets where he 646 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: was from. Then the smartest thing he did he care. 647 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: I never forget when he cared to d C and 648 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: every because I used to do on air because radio 649 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: really does obate wh people, right, So I was doing. 650 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: I was ahead of the street team, and I was 651 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: on the air, and he would come to anybody to 652 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: hit the streets, and I look, guys, I would give 653 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: you a five thousand dollars. I need, you know, to 654 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: flood this whole city because back you put up the 655 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: posters on the post you're driving the you got the 656 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 1: CDs that give you a sample. He was smart enough 657 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: he gave us the promos, so everybody that had a promo, 658 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: and he was smart enough to say this is how 659 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pimp the game. Yeah. But but what I'm 660 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: saying is okay. So now there's been all these documentary 661 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: and this is all recent stuff, you know, with with 662 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: Clarence Aman, all the different ones that are showing showing 663 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: today's artists, you know, how not to get screwed, right. 664 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: But they've been they've been on a label since Sam 665 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: cooked on his own label, right, James Brown had his 666 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: own label, had a jet and that people don't talk 667 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: about that in our black history, that James Brown was 668 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: riding around in his own jet. Right, and so it 669 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: was alays ready you know what I'm saying. They don't 670 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: talk about that because these are people that were educated. 671 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: Now they're rare birds at that time. Now today today's 672 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: to me, it seems today you have run the Jewels. 673 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: You have an LP and Killer Mike, who have been 674 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: doing music forever. They come up with this new brand. 675 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: Now they got Mattel, Now, they got Marveled, they got toys, 676 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: they got their songs in venom. But then you have 677 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: Griz Elda another group. Sure I get it, but but 678 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: here's the thing, like what Antonio says, so they don't 679 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: sell us through sixty. They value of that they But 680 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: again it goes back what what you know over this? 681 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: And it's the people that know. And I think the 682 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: exception that we have is that everybody knows and even 683 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: the information is right there, I can pick up the 684 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: information that's not that's not the all exception that people know. 685 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: People should know that this today I'm talking. I'm not 686 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: talking about when when I signed my deal, you signed 687 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: your deal. You signed I'm not talking about then because 688 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: nobody knew. Right. Today is a different day where the 689 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: where the information is at your fingertips. But again, you're 690 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: still dealing with young people. Yeah, and young people inherently 691 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: do not want to listen to older people, That's true. 692 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: And they're like, if you're so fucking smart, how did 693 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: you get taken? And we're like, well, why don't you 694 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: listen to me? And I'll tell you how to avoid it? 695 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: Like why do you give a ship? Fuck you? I 696 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: don't trust you. I'm signing this deal and they're doing 697 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 1: things at a spite on me like this, you woudn't 698 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: make no money the money I'm looking for. You don't 699 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: even make half the money. Yeah, my bonus is more 700 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: than your career. And and and the reality of that 701 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,280 Speaker 1: is young people, yes, do you understand the only reason 702 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: you are making the money that you are about to 703 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: make because we took the money you have to get 704 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: to get you. You needed a front line. You know 705 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,919 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, word I needed. Please don't ever get 706 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: a mistake when they say that that ship is that 707 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: ship is irritated because It's like it's almost like they 708 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: think they fucking invented the wook. No, listen, listen, and 709 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: they need to know it. Like like anytime you're about 710 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: to make some money, someone did something that you can 711 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: do best stepping on that shoulder. You definitely don't ever 712 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: think that when I want you to understand real interviewing 713 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: a lot of these younger young cats who are popping 714 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, yeah, they have an O G who 715 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: I remember in the scene. Oh yeah, what I question 716 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: needs to be I'm telling them, yes, but you can't 717 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: tell him. You can't tell him that right now. You 718 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: have to understand the way that that the game is. 719 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: But it's I've witnessed it. Yeah, but around the man, 720 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: they didn't know that that who's the kid with the 721 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, had the nerve hold on, let me 722 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: put some one of these little cats. You know, this 723 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: cat had the nerve to not want to I had 724 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: to had to drop off of the show because what's 725 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: this dude's name? I didn't want to do a show 726 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: what they considered an old school artist. Yeah, it was 727 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: just dude that it was better than Big Sing got 728 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: he got no Yeah, J what what I'm saying like 729 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: his people wasn't telling them, like do you know who? 730 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: It was? Just his family? O g they they old 731 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: Supreme team, Like that's his that's his aunt. Yeah, I 732 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: know that's disappointed man, because it's what is because because 733 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: they're diminishing the murder kids right now when you don't 734 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: want to, when you don't want to associate, what's just 735 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: self privileged. Like the reason that rocking is because of 736 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: what we But I think the way the system is 737 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: filing for generation to the only reason his son is 738 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: rocking is because what we Because because what we built, 739 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: That's the only reason. Again, nobody wants these A lot 740 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: of young kids don't want to be reminded because again, 741 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: but think when you were young. The difference is that 742 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: when we were young, we were the building blocks of 743 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: this ship. So we were creating something new. But at 744 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: the same time, we didn't want to hear from somebody 745 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 1: else above us telling us how to do something we're doing. 746 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: But the differences we were creating something. Now these kids 747 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: already it's been created for them, and they don't want 748 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: to be reminded about what I would have welcomed it, 749 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: don't welcome to have jumped in my b M. Yeah, 750 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: but it's different. But it's different. But it's different. It's 751 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: different because you're coming back to what said, you're coming 752 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: from from that generation that's thought that beginning. We also 753 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: respected our elders exactly. Yeah, like if I've had a 754 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: show and and and yeah and yeah. But you know 755 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 1: the kids now they you know, I'm you know, I 756 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: don't say it, but they all the crack kids like 757 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: they're that you know, no parents, they don't have no foundation. 758 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 1: But that's that disconnects I'm saying, like like I can't 759 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 1: even blame that. I gotta blame us as a community. 760 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: We missed there, you know what I'm saying, right, because 761 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: they missed the correct parents. Well these corrections. Yes, yeah, 762 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: and it has a lot to do with Once again, 763 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 1: it all brings down to family structure, you say, especially 764 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: in our communities. Family structure is the fact that systemically 765 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: deploy has been to keep it fraction has to be acknowledged. Thing. 766 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Everything you know, we should we should 767 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: take onus as a community. But that's that's not necessarily 768 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: so because you do have O g S that school 769 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 1: of young people. One once you say something they don't 770 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: want to hear they shut off. That's one. Two is 771 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 1: you could see labels like a label could I could 772 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: be trying to sign destroy, you could be you could 773 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: be the label that signed and destroy. And I'm telling 774 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: destroy some jewels because this is what labels would do. 775 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: Now destroy, you're gonna tell destroy. You can't be hanging 776 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: around this because you know, giving to me jewels. They 777 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 1: didn't want you the school, these young kids because the 778 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: stuff they was doing. I mean, there's so many just 779 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: different things. The labels due to this day to funk 780 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: over artists. You know, we could go into this whole 781 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:19,240 Speaker 1: streaming ship. This whole ship is fucking legal. We signed 782 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: for streaming, so how are you gonna tell us what 783 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,959 Speaker 1: you're paying us for? But that's how they did it though, 784 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: the labels and the streaming companies. They take they argument 785 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:34,919 Speaker 1: the Congress. Congress helps the label and fucking streaming work 786 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: a deal and tell y'all, well, y'all take care to artists. 787 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: Come on, artists shouldn't be getting fucking damn there uh 788 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: sage of opinion starts are selfish and they're not organized 789 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: quick with the with the and I was once again 790 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: I was working the radio. Then they went after the 791 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: record come I mean the radio stations, saying that the 792 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: radio stations actually also kind of check to the artists 793 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: from the from the songs that they have been playing, 794 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: so they actually have to go to countries at the 795 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: same time. And what they did was they got to 796 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: bed once again. They worked deals with the labels. The 797 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: labels were deal with the radio stations, and at the 798 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: end of the day, the person got screwed was the artists. 799 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: The artists still get screwed because you didn't know, You 800 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 1: didn't even know what people were spending on your budget, 801 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 1: people in staff, but you know that that we're working 802 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: your right without questions. Now that I'm not even affiliated 803 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: with the label, I've literally done shipped on other people's 804 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: budgets becausehip I recorded music on most depths. Budget was 805 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: I had, you know, saying like like what kind of 806 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: ship is that? For that? That? Of course I was appreciative, 807 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,359 Speaker 1: but nonetheless, you know what I'm saying, like, wow, I did. 808 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: I had no idea that it was that simple. It's 809 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: deep because artists. As an artist, artists want to make 810 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: music autely. They don't understand the level of what we 811 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: talk about business. Why I'm out here. They wanted out 812 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,919 Speaker 1: here right now. I apologize. I'm out here right now 813 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,760 Speaker 1: paid by deaf jam. I am not a deaf jam artist. 814 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: I get that. Listen, man, It's like I said, it's 815 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 1: the same It's the same business. And and uh, you 816 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: know the artists artists when you talk about TV and film, 817 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: that's all I know is TV and film. And I 818 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: know when I look at a person and let me 819 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: just use a name, let's use Will Smith, right, who's 820 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: come through the record industry and now he's in the 821 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 1: movie industry, I, for the life of me can't understand 822 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 1: why a guy that's probably got a I would imagine 823 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: probably got over a hundred million dollars in the bank, 824 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: why he wouldn't say, no, no no, I'm not taking your money. 825 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna finance my own movies from now on, and 826 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: I can go get my own distribution deal like what 827 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: master P did in music and so many others that 828 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: we know about that we're talking about. Why wouldn't Will 829 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: Smith say, hey, I would put my money up. Oprah, 830 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: you've got five man, let's let's put our money up 831 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 1: and make our own film and distribute that ship. Do 832 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: you not think that that would hit it's fair because 833 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: somebody like like Will Smith is created by television and movies. 834 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: He's created by that. A person like Russell, for instance, 835 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: it's not created by the industry. So he gets to 836 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: make his own moves and he knows what it is 837 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: to invest in himself. Now, when an artist that's been 838 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 1: given so much money or actor that's been given so 839 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,399 Speaker 1: much money by the industry him the thought of him 840 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 1: putting his own money in and then that's one. Two 841 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: is now you're about to go against the ground again. 842 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 1: Do you really want to do that because you're not informed, 843 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: you're not at and on top of that, let let 844 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: me finish on top of that that Will has to 845 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: have a vision, you Bentley, you have a vision. That's 846 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: what makes you the most dangerous is because the stories 847 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: in the vision you can tell about us as a community. 848 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 1: White people can't do that. So the people you speak to, 849 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: as far as your TV shows and your demographics, they 850 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: can't take that from you. And they don't know how 851 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 1: to do our type of movies. How many movies that 852 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: they did where they tried to go back in time 853 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,399 Speaker 1: to fucking outfit is fucked up. The slang is fucked up. 854 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: They can't do that. So that that is your gift, 855 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: that is your superpower that you could live off for 856 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: the rest of your life, because you get it when 857 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: somebody comes through and say, Yo, many I got this idea, Boom, boom, 858 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: you get it, fifty cents get it right being math, 859 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: he's winning and he's figured out a way to do 860 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,320 Speaker 1: it by utilizing their their their money still in their shane, 861 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: which is brilliant in itself right right, and and to 862 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: kind of I think even kind of go further until 863 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: what we're talking about, why why Will Smith might not 864 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and why you know someone 865 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: else might and should? Um? You know, like I think 866 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 1: that there's a level of a degree of um of 867 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: of comfortability, you know what I'm saying with with with 868 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 1: what you're with what you're doing. You know, I'm saying 869 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,879 Speaker 1: as far as as far as you willing to take 870 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: a risk, you know, saying on your own now doing 871 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 1: it with someone else, I think he'd probably be more 872 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: willing to do that. Doing it with three people, he'd 873 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: probably be more willing to that. And I think that 874 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,320 Speaker 1: that is one of our that that it hasn't happened 875 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: is one of our problems. Hey, thanks for listening. 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