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Visit Allcopyproducts dot com and buy Arizona 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: Cardinals podcast. Visit Azcardinals dot com. 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 3: Slash podcast one. 14 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: Handed Catching a Touchdown. 15 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Here's Craig Grielou, Paul Calvic and nine year NFL veteran 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson. 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 4: Last show of the year, gentlemen, so make it a 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 4: good one. Bring your a game. 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 5: Paul, I'm ready to go, but uh, scouting reports that 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 5: I'm looking at terms of Rob status. It says here 21 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 5: a little sauce, little sketch, as we'll see if Rob's 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 5: ready to make Tuesday the most productive day of the week, 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 5: because during the holiday week you never quite know. At 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 5: least that's what it says. 25 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 3: You know, sciatica has been acting up a little bit. 26 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: But I gotta say this Christmas. You know, the kids 27 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: are grown. The expectations come down, you know. And I'm 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: not staying up till midnight Christmas Eve putting together some 29 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: fish or price thing or another. You know, expectations come 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 3: down as the kids get older. 31 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 6: You know. 32 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: I'm with you. 33 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 5: If there's anyone ready to meet reduced expectations, I'm that guy, 34 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 5: you know, reduce the expectations. I'll be there every time 35 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 5: except for the next hour. All here on the Cardinals 36 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 5: reds here report. We have a high bar to achieve, gentlemen. 37 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: Okay, all right. 38 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 4: We will begin though with some good news. If anyone 39 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: saw the news on Tuesday, and again, this is not 40 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 4: a surprise. I brought it up a couple of weeks ago, 41 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: and we'll continue to bring it up as Larry Fitzgerald 42 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: continues to clear every hurdle. He is now one of 43 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 4: fifteen modern era finalists for potential induction into the Pro 44 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 4: Football Hall of Fame. The twenty twenty sixth class will 45 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 4: get announced February fifth, but they are down to their 46 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: fifteen finalists, and yes, number eleven is among the fifteen finalists. 47 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: Is that even news? I mean it was a. 48 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 4: Tweet this morning. There's a story on Azy Cardinals dot com. 49 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 4: It's not breaking news or shocking news, but it is new. 50 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: If in the history of fore gone conclusions, this has 51 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 3: got to be right up there number one, I think 52 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: I would think so. 53 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 5: Well. I still love the speaking of Scotty reports. I 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 5: still love the Cliff Kingsbury scottery report. Yeah, Larry Fitzgerald, 55 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 5: he just wins at life. So this is another notch 56 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 5: in the belt of winning at life. And yes, gentlemen, 57 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 5: prepare yourselves for a preseason road trip to cand Ohio, 58 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 5: because it's gonna happen. The Cardinals will play the almighty 59 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 5: fourth preseason game in honor of Larry Fitzgerald going into 60 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame. Drew Brees, whatever Larry Fitzgerald is 61 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 5: gonna get be right up there on the marquee. And yes, 62 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 5: he's number two to some guy named Jerry Rice in 63 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 5: every single receiving category. So to Rob's point, is just 64 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 5: a foregone conclusion. Yes, be prepared. 65 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: If there is a Hall of Fame preseason game, be 66 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 4: prepared for an extra week or week and a half. 67 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 4: There I say two weeks yep of training camp. 68 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 5: Yep. See it's another reason Wolf he retired because instead 69 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 5: of taking his five weeks summer sabbatical and showing up 70 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 5: somewhere in early August, See, this is to put a 71 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 5: serious crimp into a summer plan. So he really had 72 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 5: no choice. He saw this Hall of Fame, you know, 73 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 5: induction for Larry Fitzgerald coming around the corner, and he 74 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 5: got out early. 75 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 4: Well, he's talking about fits, he's a pit guy, and 76 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 4: you're talking about Wolf as a West Virginia love. So 77 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 4: already there's the animosity between those two. Yeah, quote unquote, 78 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 4: So yeah, Larry Fitzgerald, it'll be a big deal. They're 79 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: gonna roll out the big red carpet in can Ohio 80 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 4: and obviously well deserving, but it'll be the summer of 81 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 4: Larry we forecast. Now, I would think there will be 82 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: a lot of content about Larry Fitzgerald, and well deserved. Now, 83 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: there is no easy transition to go from a potential 84 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 4: Hall of Famer to what we saw. We all watched 85 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: Paul in real time on the sideline, Cardinals on the 86 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 4: road and Cincinnati lose thirty seven to fourteen. Rob At 87 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 4: one point this game was thirteen to seven in favor 88 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: of the Bengals. After the Cardinals scored Michael Wilson with 89 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: the touchdown catch, defense gets a three and out, the 90 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 4: offense returns on the field only to go three and 91 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 4: out themselves. Bengals march down field at a field goal, 92 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: and they were off to the races twenty four straight 93 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: points for a final score of thirty seven to fourteen. 94 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 7: Yeah. 95 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: I guess you could make the argument early on the 96 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: Cardinals were in this game. But when you only have 97 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: three offensive plays in the first quarter and three of 98 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: your first five possessions offensively go three and out, you're 99 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 3: not going to stay in the game very long. And defensively, 100 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: you know, I think Cincinnati Bengals, Joe Burrow, they put 101 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: on a masterclass in terms of just ball control, taking 102 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: time off the clock, owning it really and defensively, Cardinals 103 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: all game long, really bad tackling bad angles. You see, 104 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 3: the just kind of a recurring theme happening, and it really, 105 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: in my opinion, was the most lopsided defeat of the 106 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 3: season for the Arizona Cardinals. 107 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 5: You know, I've heard that said, You're not the only 108 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 5: one to say that, but to me down thirty five 109 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 5: nothing at Seattle definitely felt like a more dominant performance 110 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 5: by the opponent. That's that's just my vibe, just being 111 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 5: in that stadium, on that sideline, thirty eight to seven 112 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 5: at halftime. It just you know, it was sixteen to 113 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 5: seven after the Cardinals got off the field on a 114 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 5: Kalayas sack on third down yea next Bengals possession. You 115 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 5: had a second down sack that was the Cody Simon blitz, 116 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 5: which you ended up sharing with saving Collins, and third 117 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 5: down Dalvin Tomlinson bum rushes the pocket. All of a sudden, 118 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 5: you're thinking, all right, they forced the field goals sixteen 119 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 5: to seven, you're thinking to and then all of a sudden, 120 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 5: out of nowhere, it's thirty seven to seven by late 121 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 5: third quarter. And you've seen this happen before. The Rams 122 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 5: scored thirty five straight points in Week fourteen, from a 123 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 5: ten to ten game to forty five to ten. You know, 124 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 5: not that anyone needs a new analytic, but there should 125 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 5: be some sort of stat like a sideway stat. How quickly, 126 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 5: how you know to what degree can a game go sideways? 127 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 5: Because that has happened to the Cardinals here recently. One 128 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 5: too many times this season. Here in twenty twenty five, 129 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 5: we'll take you back to Sunday Insincinnati postgame head coach 130 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon on what happened on the field. 131 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 8: Obviously disappointing. Had a couple of chances to make it 132 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 8: a game, couldn't make it a game. I think it 133 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 8: really comes down through for me. This game was third down. 134 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 8: They converted a bunch, we didn't. They stayed on the field, 135 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 8: we didn't. They scored points we didn't. Got out of hand. 136 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: The third down numbers rob Cardinals three of thirteen, the 137 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: Bengals ten to fifteen. And then as you brought up 138 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 4: ball control and whether you believe in time of possession 139 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: or not, I've not seen it this lopsided when one team, 140 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 4: the Bengals, have it for more than forty one minutes, 141 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: and the Cardinals have it for nineteen minutes. I mean 142 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 4: that's again, Joe Burrow and company could do whatever they 143 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: wanted and the Cardinals offensively could not sustain drives. 144 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, time of possession doesn't mean anything. If you're one, two, 145 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: three plays, score a touchdown. Yeah, you're not going to 146 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: possess the ball for very long. You're not gonna have 147 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: time with possession, but that just wasn't the case. And 148 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: the Cardinals, Jonathan Gann's right, they had no answer, especially 149 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: in third down. Offensively, Defensively, they couldn't get off the field. 150 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: And you know, in the second half, Joe Burrow and 151 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: the Bengals they're kind of taking their time. They're toying 152 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: with the Cardinals. They were toying with them, and it 153 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: was hard to watch. It was a really hard game 154 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: to watch because, yeah, there have been some blowouts, but 155 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: at least you saw at least one portion of the team, 156 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: the offense or the defense playing playing well at least 157 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: to some extent outside of the micro burst that the 158 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: defense had or those sacks and that life. There really 159 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: wasn't anything defensively that Cardinals did that showed that they 160 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: had life. 161 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 5: And what Janet John Gannon said, Jonathan Ganna said in 162 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 5: the TV show about Joe Burrow and just how patient 163 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 5: he is in addition to everything else in his skill set, 164 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 5: right the arm talent, the accuracy, the timing, the football IQ. 165 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 5: He's ultra patient and did he not show that in 166 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 5: the game. Whatever the Cardinals gave him he just gladly took. 167 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 5: They controlled the ball for forty one minutes. It was 168 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 5: AQ brought this up, was the old Bruce Arians, All right, 169 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 5: time possession is great, but I want to point per minute. 170 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 5: They almost did that with thirty seven points on the scoreboard. 171 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 5: And then the red zone was just a masterclass five 172 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 5: for five in the red zone. And that has been 173 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 5: an issue for the Cardinals recently, in particular offensively and defensively, 174 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 5: trying to excel in the red zone. And you know, 175 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 5: it'd be great if you get some answers that here. 176 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 4: In Week eighteen, Cardinals did not reach inside the red 177 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 4: zone until the fourth quarter. By that time, Joe Burrow 178 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: was on the sideline watching Joe Flacco, quarterback the Bengals, 179 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 4: and the game had been decided. Cardinals quarterback Jacoby Brissett's 180 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: on what happened against the Bengals, We're. 181 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 9: Gonna watch his failm now you can see it on 182 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 9: the tablists on the sideline. But solid really came down 183 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 9: to it was just fundamentals, technique, execute and being one 184 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 9: on ones. Stuff like that, the simple start for football 185 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 9: that you you did as a kid. 186 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 6: You know. 187 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 5: And that was in front of his locker and I 188 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 5: was among the media members there and My follow up 189 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 5: question was did you get the focus in the mode 190 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 5: of play that you wanted? And his answer was, oh, 191 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 5: and he thought about it and he said at times 192 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 5: it was inconsistent. So what does that mean. It means 193 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 5: there were some controllables, according to the quarterback, that could 194 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 5: have been better out there. You know, the to Rob's 195 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 5: point microburst, that was a great description. You saw there 196 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 5: for a hot moment. You know, why aren't you able 197 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 5: to sustain that a little bit more? I get it. 198 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 5: It's Joe Burrow, I get it. He has two of 199 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 5: the premier receivers in the league, one A and one 200 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 5: A plus, and they're really good. And Chase Brown kept 201 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 5: the defense honest and they did a really good job 202 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 5: of getting their weapons into space and forcing open field tackles. 203 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 5: And minus Buddha Baker, that was an issue, no question 204 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 5: about it. But but those controllables that Jonathan Gannon talks about, 205 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 5: you know, at least talking to Jacoby Brissett as locker 206 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 5: after the game, there's room for improvement. 207 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 4: The basics, the fundamentals that Jacobe talks about. It comes 208 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 4: down to when we hear this from coaches all the time, 209 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: Rob blocking and tackling and tackling on Sunday, you brought 210 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 4: it up on Cardinal Talk, and we have seen a 211 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 4: difference earlier in the season compared to now as far 212 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 4: as how this team is tackling and the number of 213 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 4: miss tackles or guys making defenders miss. And then all 214 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 4: of a sudden, a three four yard game comes an 215 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 4: explosive play. And that happened one too many times, especially 216 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 4: in the first half. What was it The Bengals had 217 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 4: eleven plays of ten or more yards in the first half. 218 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 4: Cardinals had just two such plays through the first two quarters. 219 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and tackling to me is high school stuff, right. 220 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 3: Every everybody out there knows how to tackle. They know 221 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: how to form up and and and do a perfect tackle. 222 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 8: Uh. 223 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 3: And here's the here's really the back background on it 224 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: is is tackles are made before you were even in 225 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: contact with the person with the ballcarrier. The tackle is 226 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: made before that even happens by the path you choose by, 227 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: by your approach to the ball carrier. And you're you're 228 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: seeing Cardinals play after play overrunning ball carriers and next 229 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: thing you know, you have a forced guy and now 230 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: you have three, maybe four guys that overrun and are 231 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: outside of where they need to be and where they 232 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: should be. That's elementary stuff, and that's you have to 233 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: drill it. Yeah, you have to drill it every day 234 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: in practice. But these guys should know that. They should 235 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: they should understand that they got to throttle down, they 236 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: got to be patient, they got to approach at the 237 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: right angle and understand where your teammates are in order 238 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: to make the tackle. And you're just not seeing that 239 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: at this late in the season. That's troubling. That's you know, 240 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 3: that's a lack of focus. Number one. I don't know 241 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: if they're working on it every day in practice. I 242 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: assume they are. I hope they are. They better be. 243 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: But I don't think it's a necessarily a byproduct of 244 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: not physically tackling as much in practice because the CBA 245 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 3: won't allow it. I think it's just a a you know, 246 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: a no focus on actually doing what you're supposed to do. 247 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 5: And can you quantify it well? Next Gen Stats did 248 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 5: nine forced mistackles by Chase Brown him alone, that's a 249 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 5: career high in a single game. And he had sixty 250 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 5: eight yards after contact, which was a season high. So 251 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 5: look at those two metrics, and then there's just the 252 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 5: eyeball test, and we all saw it, especially in that 253 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 5: first half, just a bunch of plays in space, guys 254 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 5: failing to make an open field tackle. To me, you know, 255 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 5: and I've never tackled beyond high school. So take this 256 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 5: for you, will. I consider it a skill. I really 257 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 5: do you talk about skill players for a defender, that 258 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 5: is a skill like Buddha Baker. It is a skill 259 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 5: to get an elite playmaker down in space a solo tackle. 260 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 5: And as you saw, a lot of the backups struggled 261 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 5: in that department. 262 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 3: Also, it's also you know, it's a lot of guys 263 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 3: trying to make a play, not a lot of guys 264 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: dying to make a play. 265 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 4: By the way, no one could tackle like Paul Calvis 266 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: in high school. Just to know that run lot. This 267 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: is the Arizona Cardinals, righty, A network seth throws over 268 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,359 Speaker 4: the middle, it is caught by McBride. 269 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: He sets a new Cardinals record for catches by a 270 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: tight end that is one hundred and twelve on the year. 271 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: The record was his last year of one hundred and 272 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: eleven catches, having one hundred. 273 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 10: Plus receptions as a receiver that's a great year as 274 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 10: a tight end. 275 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 4: It's a ridiculous year. 276 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: Caught by McBride and pushed out of bounds there it is. 277 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: Trey McBride moves past DeAndre Hopkins establishes a new Cardinals 278 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: franchise record most catches in a season with one hundred 279 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: and sixteen pulled in by McBride. He's tackled at the 280 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: forty one. Ray McBride has set a new NFL record 281 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: for catches by a tight end in a single year. 282 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: That is one hundred and seventeen on the season four McBride. 283 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: It is caught for a touchdown by Trey McBride, having 284 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: arguably the greatest single season in NFL history by a 285 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: tight end. 286 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 10: He certainly is the best tight end in the NFL 287 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 10: right now. 288 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: And I don't think there's any debate about it. By 289 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: the way, those were plays made on Sunday. That's not 290 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 4: a season long montage. Trey McBride, for the second time 291 00:14:54,040 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 4: in three games, set three different records on Sunday, franchise records, 292 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 4: single season record for receptions by a tight end, single 293 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 4: season record for receptions period, and then the NFL record 294 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: most single season or most receptions by a tight end 295 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 4: in a single season. So yeah, that's just another day 296 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 4: at the office. Rob for Trey McBride, who again got 297 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 4: paid in the off season, and then maybe he seems 298 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 4: to be underpaid based off his performance this year. 299 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, worth every penny of that contract. And Trey McBride, 300 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: you know, I left the first segment saying there's a 301 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: lot of guys trying to make plays, not a lot 302 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: dying to make plays. This is a guy that dies 303 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 3: to make plays. And you can tell just the way 304 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: he goes about his business throughout the week and then 305 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: on game day. He's everything you want out of a 306 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: football player. And if you know, if you could bottle 307 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 3: up Trey McBride and and create that perfect football player, 308 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: that's him. And you know the Arizona Cardinals are lucky 309 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: to have him. He's he's just a phenomenal player. 310 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 5: We started the show talking about Larry Fitzgerald headlining a 311 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 5: group before Modern Era finalists right in their first year 312 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 5: of eligibility. I guess we should mention the other three guys, 313 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 5: Drew Brees, Frank Or and Jason Witten. Guess what Drey 314 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 5: McBride is tracking towards that sort of status that's how 315 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 5: And you know what, speaking to Larry, he reminds me 316 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 5: it fits in a lot of ways. He's really comfortable, 317 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 5: casual on the sideline, He'll talk with the ball boys. 318 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 5: He'll walk over and give a pair of gloves to 319 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 5: a kid in a Cardinals jersey on the road in 320 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 5: the front row. Don't know how those fans get those seats, 321 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 5: but they always do and he rewards them accordingly. But 322 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 5: when he steps across the white line, he's a totally 323 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 5: different dude. He is an assassin, just like Larry. That 324 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 5: game might have been thirty seven to seven at the 325 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 5: into the third quarter, game might have been over. He 326 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 5: wasn't done. He's like, no, no, I'm balling to the 327 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 5: very end. And you saw how productive he was in 328 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 5: that fourth quarter. When he gets his targets, he's maximizing 329 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 5: him and he's just indefensible at this point for the 330 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 5: most part. 331 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: Eleven touchdowns this season for a guy who couldn't find 332 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 4: the end zone a year ago. What a difference one 333 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 4: season makes to another. And yes it was a bright 334 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 4: spot and maybe the lone bright spot from Sunday, but 335 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 4: Trey McBride continues to set records head coach Jonathan Gannon 336 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: on what he has seen from his tight end. 337 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 8: I'm proud of him. He shows up to work every 338 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 8: day in battles and he's one of the best players 339 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 8: out there, you know what I mean. That's really cool. 340 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 8: You know, I'm down about the team, and I know 341 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 8: he's down about the team, but I don't want to 342 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 8: overlook that he's had a fantastic year. 343 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 4: And we shouldn't overlook the performance that Trey McBride does 344 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 4: because those performances, we don't think maybe they will become 345 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 4: the norm for Trey this season, at least as far 346 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 4: as what he's done, because two straight seasons now, Rob 347 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 4: he has had over one hundred receptions and again one 348 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 4: of those not just the number one pass catcher, but 349 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 4: just the number one offensive weapon on this team. 350 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 3: No, he is. He is the number one offensive target 351 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: or number one offensive weapon. I keep going back to, 352 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 3: you know, early in his career, when he was not 353 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: getting a lot of playing time and that he's behind 354 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 3: Zach Ertz, and I'm like, we sat on this guy. Yeah, 355 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: it's just it's it's unbelievable. But what he's done since 356 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 3: he's really been thrust into the starting position is amazing. 357 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 3: He keeps getting better every year. Every every year he's 358 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 3: improved his blocking. That's something that he's really dove into 359 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: and and you know it's important to him. You can 360 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: tell when things don't go his way or he makes 361 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: a mistake. How how it just it, it's it consumes 362 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 3: him and and he can't stand it. He can't wait 363 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 3: to get that stench off of him. Like when he 364 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 3: dropped that that touchdown pass he would be touchdown pass 365 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: against a couple of weeks ago against Atlanta, you could 366 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 3: tell that that stayed with him and he couldn't stand 367 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 3: it until he got another opportunity to get out there 368 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: and write that wrong. 369 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, he is a perfectionist, no doubt about it. He's 370 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 5: so demanding of himself. You see it, you know during 371 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 5: the game, you see it on the sideline, you know, 372 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 5: the rare occasion he won't make a catch or reel 373 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 5: in a target. And then all the respect he's getting 374 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 5: from defenses. What Atlanta did two weeks ago with all 375 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 5: those cloud coverages, he was the epicenter of those. And 376 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 5: then I asked Jacoby Bris said after the game in Cincinnati, 377 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 5: did you see more of those cloud coverages? He said, well, 378 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 5: they just flat doubled him. They flat doubled him, and 379 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 5: then they shaded towards Michael Wilson. And that's where the 380 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 5: Cardinals offense is right now. It is hard to comprehend. 381 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 5: Their first third down conversion was to Trey McBride with 382 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 5: less than a minute to go in the third quarter. 383 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 5: So you need more answers because the defense starts third 384 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 5: game plan eighty five and fourteen. You need more answers 385 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 5: right now for the Cardinals. Now you have two great weapons, 386 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 5: and that is going to be how you formulate this 387 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 5: offense in the off season, but you're going to have 388 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 5: to develop that run game, which obviously was lacking in 389 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 5: other ways to keep a defense. 390 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 4: Honest, it makes it even more impressive what Trey did 391 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 4: Sunday and has done this season because, as you mentioned, Paul, 392 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: there hasn't been that consistent run game. So teams know, 393 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 4: all right, we're going to game plan against the Cardinals. 394 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: What's the number one takeaway, Well, don't let Trey McBride 395 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: beat you yet. He is still one hundred and nineteen receptions, 396 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 4: over one thousand receiving yards, found the end zone eleven 397 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 4: different times. I mean, despite being double teamed, or the 398 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 4: cloud coverage or getting chipped at the line of scrimmage 399 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 4: Will and Anderson. That conversation between Trey and Will that 400 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 4: was caught on film because Will, as opposed to going 401 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 4: after the quarterback, said now I'm gonna get eighty five 402 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 4: out of the way, and then Russ. 403 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 5: Jacoby and then what Kelvin Beacham told us about that 404 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 5: game where one of the reasons they were calling out 405 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 5: eighty five is as well eighty five was calling out 406 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 5: their number, right. I mean, he barks, he talks trash, 407 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 5: he lets him know he's coming, he lets him know 408 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 5: the play he just made. So now he sort of 409 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 5: sparks the ire of the defense as well. But you know, 410 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 5: on his TV show this week, we asked Jonathan Gannon, 411 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 5: because I'm sort of like Jacoby Brissett, you know, what 412 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 5: more do you say about Trey McBride, And he said, 413 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 5: how much do you hope that his approach to the 414 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 5: game and his competitive fire rubs off and all the 415 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 5: young guys who are seeing action right now? And he 416 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 5: immediately nodded and just caught off the question said, absolutely, 417 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 5: you hope that's infectious. You hope every young guy in 418 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 5: that room watches the Trey McBride and just wants to 419 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 5: compete like that, you know, regardless of the score, regardless 420 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 5: of the box score, you just every time you take 421 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 5: a rep and a snap, you want to make a play. 422 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 4: Let's hear from the record breaker Trey McBride following Sunday's 423 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 4: game in Cincinnati. 424 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 6: Obviously, it's really cool. Thankful for my teammates, my coaches, Jacoby, 425 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 6: all those guys. It's cool to get it in sixteen 426 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 6: games too. You know, I didn't want anyone to give 427 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 6: me a hard time about that, so glad we got that. 428 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 6: But honestly, it doesn't really matter. I love to have 429 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 6: won the game, would love to have played better as 430 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 6: an offense, but just wasn't there. 431 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 4: Today a lot of self awareness right there from Trey McBride. Yeah, 432 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 4: you can celebrate the personal accomplishments, but harder when you're 433 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 4: not winning ball games. And for Tray that's first and foremost. 434 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 4: Even during the week, rob when we put our microphones 435 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 4: in front of Tray as he's standing in front of 436 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 4: his locker and asking about what happened or what's to come, 437 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 4: and he almost seems a little bit embarrassed by the 438 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 4: attention because the team's not winning yet, where are we 439 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 4: going to go for the story? It's Trey McBride. 440 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, personal accolades are always more fulfilling when the team 441 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 3: is successful. But you know, setting that aside, I think 442 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: as a player, nothing is more important to an individual 443 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 3: player than recognition of your peers from your peers and 444 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: and to you know, to be selected to the Pro 445 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 3: Bowl most likely to be All Pro as well, that 446 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 3: is like the highest honor, and I'm sure he feels 447 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: that way as well. But the personal accolades, you know, 448 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: even despite the record of this season for the air Zona Cardinals, 449 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: it's you know, it's it's meaningful. It's meaningful to a 450 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 3: and I'm sure he's proud of that. He should be, 451 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 3: because he's worked his tailoff to get there and to 452 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 3: have those opportunities to make those plays. 453 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 5: The only guy who's seen give him a hard time 454 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 5: all year was Jesse Bates, who just sad the pick 455 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 5: six some Monday night football. He's the only defender who 456 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 5: has actually given Trey McBride a game. And you saw 457 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 5: it in the end zone against Atlanta. You saw it 458 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 5: on the subsequent third down target where he's able to 459 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 5: break it up. Now, maybe that passes a little bit 460 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 5: behind Trey McBride, but he expected himself to make that 461 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 5: catch otherwise. I mean, the entire season has just been 462 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 5: All Pro first Team worthy from Trey McBride, and I 463 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 5: think that's everyone's expectation. He's gonna earn that honor by 464 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 5: the time we're done. 465 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 4: The Pro Bowl has been secured for a second straight season. 466 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 4: A year ago, I believe McBride finished just outside he 467 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 4: was either the third or fourth as far as All Pro, 468 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 4: and you get credit if you're a first team or 469 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 4: a second team. It's almost more of an honor to 470 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 4: be an All Pro than it is a Pro bowler 471 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,239 Speaker 4: because it's much more difficult. Those selections are few and 472 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 4: far between. But everyone focuses a lot on the Pro 473 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: Bowl because there's a game attached to, or at least somewhat 474 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 4: of a game or assivity, slack, whatever. But it's it's 475 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 4: the it's the distinction because All Pro it's one player 476 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 4: at each position, and now you're singling out the best 477 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 4: of the very best. And again, name me a different 478 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 4: or another tight end that's had the type of season 479 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 4: that Trey has had. Regardless of what you're doing as 480 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: a team. 481 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that Pro Bowl could be a popularity contest. 482 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: I get that. And and some guys can get not 483 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: voted in when they should and and maybe voted in 484 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 3: a year longer than they should. And you know a 485 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 3: lot of the say the offensive guys, they don't really 486 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 3: know what other offensive guys are doing throughout the league, 487 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: or especially if they're in other divisions, they don't they 488 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 3: don't see those those films as much, so they don't 489 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 3: really know. So they rely on defensive players to come 490 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: in and tell, well, this guy is deserving of a 491 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 3: Pro Bowl, and they vote accordingly. So it's it's not 492 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: the most exact science in terms of getting the right players, 493 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: but generally hit it on the head. And Trey McBride, obviously, 494 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: there's no question about him and. 495 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 5: The other thing he gets respect from in that locker room. 496 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 5: You talked to the players and they'll tell you just 497 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 5: the fact he's on the field for ninety plus percent 498 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 5: of the snaps. This isn't just a receiving tight end. 499 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 5: He's not just a glorified receiver. He's actually sticking his 500 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 5: nose in there a point of attack, and you look 501 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 5: at him down on the field. One arm is covered 502 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 5: in tattoos, the other arm is just covered in bruises. 503 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 5: Both are black and blue. I mean, he just he 504 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 5: is in there and mixing it up every single game. 505 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 5: He's left it out on the field. 506 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 4: On Sunday, played fifty five of the fifty seven offensive snaps. 507 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 4: So he is not just a third down or wy 508 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 4: you need to make a play send in number eighty five. 509 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 4: Trey McBride is on the field every single snap when 510 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 4: the Cardinals have the football, when the Cardinals don't have 511 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 4: the football, when they're trying to get the football back, 512 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 4: that was a struggle. On Sunday, we discuss that when 513 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 4: we come back here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network. 514 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: Burrow takes the shotgun, snap drops straight Backlit's coming in. 515 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: Burrow is sacked back at midfield. It's Cody Simon firing 516 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: into the backfield and taking down Burrow drops the throat 517 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: in trouble, steps up against sacked by Tomlinson at the 518 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: forty eight yard line. Back to back sacks for the 519 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 2: Cardinals defense. 520 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 10: That was all started by the pressure of Kalayas Campbell. 521 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 10: He's so big, he's so long, he can get pressure 522 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 10: and that's exactly what he does, creates a natural pick 523 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 10: Dalvin Tomlinson around for the big sack. 524 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: Burrow drops back, steps up, hitting sack back at the 525 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: thirty yard line and it's Kaleis Campbell with the takedown 526 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 2: and then the celebratory jump. 527 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 10: Shot, the ageless wonder. Kalays Campbell with the secondary move 528 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 10: hump move, lifts up the inside arm and gets the 529 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 10: big sack. 530 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 4: So if you missed it earlier here on the Cardinals 531 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 4: Red Sea Report, Rob Frederickson described that as a microburst 532 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 4: because the three sacks the Cardinals had all came in 533 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 4: the second quarter and came within two possessions. In the 534 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 4: second quarter. It was Kalis who got things started, and 535 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 4: then Cody Simon along with David Collins plus Alvin Tomlinson 536 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 4: with the three accounted for sacks of Joe Burrow. But 537 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 4: there was just not enough of the pressure Rob on 538 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 4: a consistent basis, because Burrell had time and bought himself 539 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 4: time in order to get the ball out to his playmakers. 540 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that micro burst came at a time in 541 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 3: the game when you know you're, like, man, Cardinals defensively 542 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: need to do something, and then it's kind of a 543 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 3: there was kind of a delayed blitz by Cody Simon 544 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 3: that he was able to come through unblocked and saving Collins. 545 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: They got the half sack each, but that was that 546 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 3: was It's like the time of the game where they 547 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: need it at most, and I thought it would kind 548 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: of propel them and give them a little bit of 549 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 3: a boost and maybe help out the offense. But it didn't. 550 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 8: You know. 551 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, So defensively, again, it was for me. It was 552 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 3: the angles to the ball carrier and the tackling that 553 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 3: continue to be a problem for this team. This is 554 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: not unique to this game, but it continues to show itself, 555 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 3: and you know, so you kind of think, well, what 556 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: can we do to improve? What can we do to 557 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 3: get past this? And I don't have the answer, because 558 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: I guarantee you they're out there training, they're out there 559 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: doing pursuit drills, they're out there, you know, form fitting up. 560 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 3: It's just not translating to the game. I think. I 561 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: think what's happening, what you're seeing happen is guys are 562 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 3: so amped up to go make a tackle that they're 563 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: kind of overstepping or forgetting their responsibilities in terms of 564 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 3: pursuit angles, in terms of leverage and who's got support 565 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: that they're they're kind of, you know, taking things into 566 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 3: their own hands and doing things on their own, and 567 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 3: you see a lot of times they're overrunning the ballcarrier. 568 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: You know. 569 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 5: Talking with some of the defensive linemen after the Houston 570 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 5: game and Rob, it's interesting you bring that up because 571 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 5: a couple of guys just said in the course of conversation, 572 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 5: you know, really trying to sort of a simplify things 573 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 5: a little bit so we can improve the gap integrity 574 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 5: and then be the mantra this week for the d linemen, 575 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 5: do not come out of your gap until the running 576 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 5: back or ball carrier is past you. Because these running 577 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 5: backs are so good with their vision. Chase Brown, you 578 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 5: know in company, you know you're going to see it 579 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 5: in a Kiron Williams. He loves the cutbacks, you know, 580 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 5: So you got to stay in your gap because you 581 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 5: don't want to be the guy who creates a rushing 582 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 5: lane or a crease. And to your point, I think 583 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 5: guys are trying so hard, and some guys might also 584 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 5: be chasing the TfL or chasing the sack, and they're 585 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 5: trying to go back door, backside and guess what. Not 586 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 5: many dudes can do that. Kalaeus in his prime could 587 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 5: do that. Walter Nolan, we saw him do that. But 588 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 5: how many guys can try and chase backside and then 589 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 5: all of a sudden they don't get home and guess 590 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 5: what the running backer ball carriers out of the gates. 591 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 4: And we talked about this once before Rob earlier this 592 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 4: season about when you're in the midst of a season 593 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 4: like this and everyone you hear, okay, do your job, 594 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 4: but human nature factors in and you think, well, I 595 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 4: can make the play, I can turn this play around, 596 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 4: this game around, this season around, and then all of 597 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 4: a sudden you're doing more than your job and then 598 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 4: that's when things break down. Or these long explosive plays 599 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 4: that we saw a lot of on Sunday. 600 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, to Paul's point about you know, gap integrity and 601 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 3: stand in your gap defensive lineman, and you see it 602 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 3: a lot. They'll be in their gap, they'll be controlling 603 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: the offensive lineman and the running back will flash in 604 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,959 Speaker 3: the next gap over, so they'll toss the offensive lineman 605 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 3: go over to that gap. Well, then the middle linebacker's 606 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: there too, and then the running backs are so good 607 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: in this league, they'll bounce it right back to where 608 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: you left and they're out the gate. Actually, for the 609 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 3: second and third tier players, the linebackers and the safeties 610 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,479 Speaker 3: coming down to tackle, they got to be aware of 611 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: the of the ball carrier's shoulders. Where are his shoulders 612 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 3: If they're pointing towards the sideline, Yeah, get after it, 613 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: But once they start to kind of get parallel to 614 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage, you got to throttle down and 615 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: stay on his back. 616 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 4: Hip Cardinals, again, defensively, it was a struggle. They allowed 617 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 4: four hundred and twenty nine yards, second most this season, 618 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty of which came on the ground. 619 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 4: Bengals were able to stay on the football field a lot, 620 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 4: as we mentioned the third down numbers ten of fifteen. 621 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 4: Nine of those fifteen attempts, by the way, the Bengals 622 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 4: only had to go six yards or fewer, so they 623 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 4: made it easier on themselves to sustain drives. Jonathan Gannon 624 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 4: on what the defense was not able to do on 625 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 4: third down. 626 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 8: Third down, we didn't do a good enough job. You know, 627 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 8: they're over seventy percent. That's a good offense. You're going 628 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 8: to get a lot of points. Scored on you. If 629 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 8: that happens, which is what happened. I mean, it's always 630 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 8: going to be rushing coverage when we pressure, we got 631 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 8: to get home. We got to tackle better. You got 632 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 8: to cover better, I thought. You know, Joe did a 633 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 8: good job a couple of times extending plays and then 634 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 8: he found some guys that were open. 635 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 4: It wasn't so much the third down, but when you 636 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 4: hear that, it was a lot of six yards or 637 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 4: few or okay, what did you do on first down? 638 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 4: What did you do on second down to make sure 639 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 4: that that playbook was wide open for you? And you 640 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 4: didn't earn the right as the Cardinals defense to rush 641 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 4: the passer, bring that extra defender on a potential blitz 642 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 4: on third down. 643 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 5: And you hear Jonathan again and Nick Rolis, all the 644 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 5: defensive player, especially the veteran guys, talk about that. You know, 645 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 5: if it's a mixed down, it can easily be runner 646 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 5: pass look out. That's advantage offense. You want to get 647 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 5: him into the third Nobvius, second and obvious. Going back 648 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 5: to Kalais for example, you know, a good part of 649 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 5: this season he's been part of a third down package, 650 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 5: you know, and Josh sweat in particular. You know, okay, 651 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 5: here they come, it's third Nobvius bringing the big guns, 652 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 5: and the problem with that can be In fact, it 653 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 5: was the Rams game in week fourteen where they went 654 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 5: thirty two or thirty five straight plays where they never 655 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 5: got to third down. So okay, So they've mixed up 656 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 5: some of the rotations and now you see Kalais maybe 657 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 5: on second down a little more often. And so that's 658 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 5: been a work in progress. You know, who's available, who's up. 659 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 5: You know how many snaps can a guy get, and 660 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 5: then when all of a sudden, the time of possession 661 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 5: gets lopsided. Wait a minute, you don't want Kalais out 662 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 5: there for that many snaps, although he's one of your 663 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 5: most reliable guys. So yeah, it's been a challenge. 664 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 4: Also a challenge the tackling, which we discussed repeatedly here 665 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 4: on this edition of The Cardinals Read to report something 666 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 4: that was asked to Cody Simon on The Cardinals' Locker 667 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 4: Room Show. 668 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 11: They had really good athletes, and you know, we have 669 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 11: to we do better again. Starts with me like tackling. 670 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 11: We got not players back, and those hitting yardages can 671 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 11: really ruin games for you. On defense. So we got 672 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 11: to stop thosehitting yardages and you know, just create a 673 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 11: wall for our defense, and we haven't been doing that lately. 674 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 11: And again that's starts with me. 675 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 4: That's another phrase we've heard a couple of times this season, 676 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 4: the hidden yards where it's extra yards maybe following contact 677 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 4: or all of a sudden, what should have been You 678 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 4: prepare and you acknowledge, Okay, this is going to be 679 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 4: a two yard game or a three yard game based 680 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 4: off how our defense is set against your offensive play call. 681 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden, it's well, it becomes five yards, 682 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 4: six yards, and all of a sudden, it's three more 683 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 4: yards than perhaps you would anticipate it. Then all of 684 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 4: a sudden, it's okay, third and two instead of third 685 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 4: and six, third and seven. So again, these little details 686 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 4: that coaches talk about and then sometimes fans will scoff 687 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 4: at all, what about the Well, it does matter, especially 688 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 4: when you see the overall numbers and the Cardinals struggles, 689 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 4: especially on Sunday. 690 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and going back to those struggles and those little 691 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 3: teachable moments and the details as with regards to coverage, 692 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 3: got a lot of new faces out there in the secondary, 693 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 3: and so I think I feel like the Cardinals were 694 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 3: trying to maybe simplify some things and place some off 695 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 3: zone and the zone, so there was just a little 696 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 3: bit too much room there for Cincinnati's receivers. And then 697 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: when they did get into man coverage situations, maybe it 698 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 3: was a blitz or something. If Cincinnati got into a bunch, look, 699 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 3: it felt to me like there was confusion in terms 700 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 3: of who had who coming out of that bunch or 701 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 3: if somebody was going to the flat they were getting 702 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 3: picked off. They got to put themselves in a position 703 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 3: pre snap so they don't get picked I mean, that's 704 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 3: these are things that you need to be drilling and 705 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 3: practicing and preparing for throughout the week. Not to say 706 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 3: that they're not, but it's just not resonating and being 707 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 3: carried over to the game. 708 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 5: And remember the first meeting against the Rams and looking 709 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 5: the next gen stat right here, they used thirteen personnel 710 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 5: three tight ends on forty of six seven snaps, which 711 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 5: was the most such place in a game in the 712 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 5: NFL by any offense since at least twenty sixteen. So 713 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 5: if you're gonna come with the light boxes to defend 714 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 5: Pucaco and I'm guessing DeVante Adams isn't gonna play. They're 715 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 5: gonna save him for the playoffs. Sol though Sean McVay 716 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 5: was adamant after last night's loss, the starters are playing. 717 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 5: Stafford is playing. We'll see what that means exactly. But 718 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be shocked. Did they come out with a 719 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 5: lot of thirteen personnel. They're gonna keep doing it until 720 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 5: the Cardinals stop it. Sean McVay postgame. 721 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 4: We need to play better, So yes, the starters will play. 722 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 4: Of course, that was following Monday nights loss. We'll see 723 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 4: what happens as the days get closer to Sunday and 724 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 4: the season finale in Los Angeles. We will discuss week 725 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 4: eighteen when we come back here on the Arizona Cardinals 726 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 4: Radio network. Salvian eleven under center Stafford. 727 00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: That will throw. 728 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 3: Sideline ten plock of the five to the goal line pylon. 729 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 5: It's a touchdown. 730 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 10: It's a touchdown for Nakua and a touchdown pass for Stafford, 731 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 10: and now the ram is an extra. 732 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 5: Point away from tying the game on a quick lateral 733 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 5: throw an eleven. 734 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 4: Yard touchdown catch and run with Pluckers ahead. 735 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 7: Wow, I mean, Pukaaku is so good in those situations 736 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 7: getting the ball in space, toughness, quickness, the ability to 737 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 7: kind of squeeze around the edge and find his way 738 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 7: into the end zone. 739 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 4: Fun game to watch. A surprising conclusion as far as 740 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 4: who did not win the game. Many pegged the Rams 741 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 4: to go into Atlanta and beat the Falcons unless you 742 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 4: turned on the game at halftime and saw that it 743 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 4: was twenty one nothing in favor of the Falcons, just 744 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 4: the third time a Sean McVay coached Rams team had 745 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 4: been shut out in the first half of a game. 746 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 4: Falcons win twenty so for the first time all season. 747 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 4: Rob the Rams aren't a two game losing streak as 748 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 4: they host the Cardinals on Sunday. 749 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, did you happen to see the blocked field goal 750 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 3: attempt and return for a touchdown by Verse? That was 751 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 3: amazing money, Yeah, that was that was that That kind 752 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 3: of turned it around for the Rams, or at least 753 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 3: helped them get back into the game. But uh, you know, 754 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 3: up until that point, they were really kind of out 755 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 3: of the game. And and so you're right, it's it's 756 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 3: surprising that you see the Rams have that skid, given 757 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 3: given the coaching staff and and the players and and 758 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 3: just the way they've played all season long. But you 759 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 3: know they're going to be around in the playoffs. They're 760 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 3: they're going to be a team that that travels well. 761 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 3: I think I think they play well on the road. 762 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 3: A lot of their home games, you could argue, are 763 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 3: road games. So you know, the Rams, the Rams are 764 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,439 Speaker 3: are certainly going to be a viable team looking fast 765 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 3: forward into the playoffs. 766 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 5: Can I give you a theory? And this isn't exactly 767 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 5: next level? And you know, I get some props from 768 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 5: AQ Shipley if he was sitting here. They're missing their 769 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,280 Speaker 5: two best offensive lineman last night, Yes, and it showed, 770 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 5: you know, Alaric Jackson their left tackle, their best old 771 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 5: lineman according to Aq, is the right guard Kevin Dotson. 772 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 5: Both were out of the game. So there was Stafford 773 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 5: getting hit and harassed, and he didn't have nearly the 774 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 5: same time to throw. Came in with five picks, threw 775 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,760 Speaker 5: three in the game, including the pick six Jesse Bates. 776 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 5: And so it is amazing when you don't have the 777 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 5: offensive line, you can look really pedestrian. Look what happened 778 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 5: to the Lions this year. They lost two starters in 779 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 5: the offseason, a bunch of other dudes got injured. Everyone's like, well, James, 780 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 5: why are the Lions? Well, guess what the old line 781 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 5: wasn't nearly what it's been the last couple of years. 782 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 4: Stafford did have the two passing touchdowns you heard, the 783 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 4: one as described by Kevin Harlan and Kurt Warner on Westwood, 784 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 4: one to Puka Nikoua, who has nine touchdowns this season. 785 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 4: But it's what Nikua has done this season. He is 786 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 4: number one in receptions, tied with McBride, number two in 787 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 4: receiving yards. And remember remember the last time the Cardinals 788 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 4: faced Poka Nakua and the Rams, Nikola had seven catches 789 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 4: for one hundred and sixty seven yards and two touchdowns. 790 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 4: So the question was asked to Jonathan Gannon on this 791 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 4: week's Cardinals game plan, what young defensive backs like well 792 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 4: Johnson will have to do against Pooka Nakua. 793 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 8: Those fifty fifty balls, we gotta come down with some 794 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 8: of those. We gotta make some of those. So he's excited, 795 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 8: and Denzel as well, and Max Mountain and all our guys, 796 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 8: all our dbs. You know you're going against cream of 797 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 8: the crop receivers or a really good quarterback. They know, 798 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 8: they're gonna have to be dead on to make plays, 799 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 8: you know, because he's gonna throw it in there accurately 800 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 8: and his receivers can go up and get it. So 801 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 8: we're gonna have to have color on color and come 802 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 8: down with something. As I would say, you gotta come 803 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 8: down with some piece of the ball to make sure 804 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 8: he doesn't catch it. 805 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 5: There's two stats about the Rams. We've called it WTF 806 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 5: what the football is? Matthew Stafford was just elected awarded 807 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 5: his third Pro Bowl. He got he was the number 808 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 5: one pick the year after Khalayis Campbell's drafted. It is 809 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 5: only his third. That's hard to believe. And then Pooka 810 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 5: Nakua in the last game against the Cardinals his first 811 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 5: ever two touchdown game. In fact, he said he didn't 812 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 5: have a second touchdown celebration queued up in his mind. 813 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 5: So they give him a hard time because he didn't 814 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 5: have much of a celebration. He said, I got to 815 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 5: I really didn't anticipate that, So I found that hard 816 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 5: to believe considering how prolific he's been as a receiver 817 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 5: the last couple of years. 818 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 4: Cardinals lost the Rams a couple of weeks back forty 819 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 4: five to seventeen. It was not pretty, But maybe more 820 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 4: concerning than what the Rams passing attack can do and 821 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 4: did do that game, is what they did running the 822 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 4: football with Kyen Williams and Blake Korum. Combined two hundred 823 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 4: and twelve rushing yards and three touchdowns with those two. 824 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 4: So as much as Stafford and company get the attention, 825 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 4: the Rams do have a ground game that you have 826 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:46,760 Speaker 4: to worry about. 827 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Rams have a balanced attack, both rushing and passing. Obviously, 828 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 3: with Blake Korum and Karen Williams, they do a phenomenal job. 829 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,919 Speaker 3: When they have their offensive line and fully intack, they're 830 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 3: a They're a machine to be reckoned with offensively, and 831 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 3: so yeah, it's gonna be a challenge for the Arizona 832 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 3: Cardinals defensively. They're they're gonna have to, you know, step 833 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 3: it up in terms of their run game, run support, 834 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 3: and then their their gap integrity. They're gonna have to 835 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 3: maintain that. Tackling is gonna be huge. I'm certain it's 836 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 3: gonna be a huge, you know, something that they look 837 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 3: at this week and practice and really work on. So 838 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 3: it's it's gonna be a challenge for Arizona for sure. 839 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 5: And when the players on the defense going to the 840 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 5: old cliche, it starts with stopping the run. They're not 841 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,240 Speaker 5: kidding this week because last time you play the Rams, 842 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 5: they ran for two forty nine to your fifty one 843 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 5: yards rushing. So that was a huge disparity, and I'm 844 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 5: guessing you're gonna come out try and run the ball. 845 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 5: You know, look right now, if you look at the seating, 846 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 5: now there's a scenario where the game on sunny wouldn't 847 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 5: matter at all in terms of seating. But if there's 848 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 5: a matter of the fifth or the sixth seed, you know, 849 00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 5: meaning you go to Philly or you go to Carrol, 850 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 5: I mean, that's a big deal if you're the Rams. 851 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 5: So they might might be playing for something other than 852 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 5: just getting back into this sort of form. We saw 853 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 5: Week fourteen against the Cardinals a. 854 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 4: Year ago, this same scenario where the NFC West was 855 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,959 Speaker 4: already decided, and Sean McVay says, Okay, I don't care 856 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 4: about seedings. We're gonna travel, so we're gonna go wherever. 857 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 4: While Week eighteen last year against the Seahawks, they sat 858 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford, Cooper Cup, Puka Nakua Kyrien Williams. Their defensive 859 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 4: starters played limited snaps. Now McVeagh did last night say 860 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 4: the starters are going to play. As I mentioned, though 861 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 4: that was Monday in the moment after looking at the film, 862 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 4: it's a short week. They had to travel to Atlanta, 863 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 4: go back to Los Angeles. 864 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 6: Yep. 865 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 4: Does that change? And maybe or maybe do you treat 866 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 4: it like a preseason games where you send the starters 867 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 4: out for a quarter or a couple of possessions and 868 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 4: then you get ready for the postseason, whether you're the 869 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 4: five seed or the six seed. 870 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 5: Well, if there's a road trip to Philly hanging in 871 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 5: the balance for your playoff opener, and based on what 872 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 5: happened last year in Philly, whereas that stinking snow game 873 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 5: and it went down to the very end and even 874 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 5: though you couldn't hold onto the football and you're slipping 875 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 5: all over the place, and the Eagles had a better, 876 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 5: you know, style of play to deal with that sort 877 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 5: of weather, with the run game and a running quarterback, 878 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 5: and you know, even all that being the case, they're 879 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 5: nearly knocked off the eventual Super Bowl champions. That was 880 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 5: the best game that anyone gave the Eagles in the postseason, 881 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 5: It's going to be. 882 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 4: Fascinating to see what the Rams do. But can the 883 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 4: Cardinals rob finish with a win and going into the 884 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 4: offseason with a victory as opposed to a lengthy losing streak. 885 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 3: Well, I know the players and coaches are going to 886 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 3: try to win, obviously, that's what they're going to do. 887 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 3: That's how they're programmed. They're going to do everything they 888 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 3: can to get out there and win. They just have 889 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 3: to focus on the details, focus on the little things, 890 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 3: do what you can do, and do your job and 891 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 3: not worry about everybody else, and play as hard as 892 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 3: you possibly. 893 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 5: Can one final chance to make one final impression, because 894 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,439 Speaker 5: in a season like this, there will be changed, there 895 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 5: will be blood. 896 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 4: Two twenty five is the kickoff on Sunday nine thirty 897 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 4: Pregame coverage begins here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, 898 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 4: and then the offseason begins and we'll be here with 899 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 4: you throughout it all. 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