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Speaker 1: I was recently out at a Red Bull rampage and

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Speaker 1: what a great opportunity if we're all sitting around, let's like,

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Speaker 1: let's have a little let's have a little chat with

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Speaker 1: some of these athletes. So I sat down with two

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Speaker 1: incredible athletes and a legend himself, Selemma, who has been

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Speaker 1: a part of extreme sports and Red Bull Rampage. I

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Speaker 1: think of gosh over ten years. But we got the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to sit down with Chelsea and Hannah, who are

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Speaker 1: two athletes that are competing in Red Bull Rampage, just

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Speaker 1: to talk about the levity and the mental and physical

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Speaker 1: are about to undertake, which is charging some of the

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Speaker 1: just to get a little bit of their mindset on

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Speaker 1: how they move into these competitions. Welcome to Red Bull

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Speaker 1: Rampage twenty twenty five. We're here with the legendary Salima.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to the new show we've created due to

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Speaker 1: a massive rain delay, but we want to dive into

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Speaker 1: the stories of the athletes off the bike. So we're

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Speaker 1: here today with Hannah Bergman. Welcome to the show. We

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Speaker 1: really just want to take a deep dive into who

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Speaker 1: you are, how you show up, what is your why,

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Speaker 1: the mental and physical load that comes with free riding.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into that, for our viewers and

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Speaker 1: listeners who may have never tuned into Red Bull Rampage, Solima,

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Speaker 1: would you give us a high level tactical breakdown as

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Speaker 1: a veteran who's been doing this for over a decade,

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Speaker 1: Might I add of what Red Bull Rampage actually is

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Speaker 1: in the history behind it?

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Speaker 2: Well, first we have to quantify doing this. By doing this,

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Speaker 2: you mean I talk at rampage, I don't ride by rampage.

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Speaker 2: I ride mountain bikes in a pedestrian manner like the

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Speaker 2: general population that watches. But Rebel Rampage is the ultimate

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Speaker 2: free ride mountain biking event on the planet. It's probably

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Speaker 2: also one of the most challenging events in all of

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Speaker 2: the action sports landscape. I've had the privilege of commonating,

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Speaker 2: back country snowboarding, skiing, big wave surfing, freestyle motocross, big

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Speaker 2: air skateboarding. And I remember the first time that I

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Speaker 2: came to rampage and I just stopped and looked up

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Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, I've never been to a

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Speaker 2: this now before. It's backcountry snowboarding or skiing without powder

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Speaker 2: landings on a bike. So these athletes come here, they

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Speaker 2: figure they look up at the mountain and they figure

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Speaker 2: and they have to dig by hand with sandbags, pick axes, shovels,

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Speaker 2: and water. Seventy five sandbags per team, only two diggers

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Speaker 2: to go with the rider. And then it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: off you go. And after eight days they formulate a

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Speaker 2: critical things that they have to go shape from the

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Speaker 2: top to the bottom. Within three minutes. You scored from

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Speaker 2: one to one hundred overall impression, degree of difficulty, flare,

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Speaker 2: of the event. How'd I do? Hannah? Pretty did all right?

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Speaker 1: I think. I mean I my first experience Hannah was yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and the realness of what I got to actually see

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Speaker 1: there's no question you are a one percenter, Like not

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Speaker 1: everyone's doing this, So why free ride? Why did you

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Speaker 1: sport you love? Like what led you to this moment?

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Speaker 1: Because you are sending it in a way I have

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Speaker 1: Ride And that's what I love about all of you

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Speaker 1: doing something. What I love about Red Bull Rampage is

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Speaker 1: this is a massive live event. It's an equal purse.

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Speaker 1: They are giving you the same landscape to do what

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Speaker 1: when I say that to you, that you are a trailblazer?

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Speaker 1: You are changing the dynamic of what people are going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty powerful, Like you've already seen, like how

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Speaker 1: It's so powerful. And I think what we're noticing and

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Speaker 1: Because we need visibility, we need investment, We need this

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Speaker 1: what's important too, is you're choosing to show up Selimma,

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Speaker 1: which I said to you earlier. I don't think the

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Speaker 1: you know, this is the super Bowl, a free ride.

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Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts, you know, being up there

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Speaker 1: seeing these women charge these courses and they're absolutely fearless

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Speaker 2: You know, I have had the privilege. In my twenty

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Speaker 2: for to watch it in skateboarding, I was there to

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Speaker 2: watch it in snowboarding, in surfing, the fight for equal

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of time is the conversation around equal

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Speaker 2: by saying, well, the women are softer, bad things are

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Speaker 2: with the microphone in my hand, interviewing them and getting that,

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Speaker 2: And to be able to do that with Baya and

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Speaker 2: Robin and those those trailbazers last year was incredible, Like

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Speaker 2: And now this year to see in the span of

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Speaker 2: Biking free right, Mounta Biking has been going like this

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Speaker 2: Instead you come here and they just they all they

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Speaker 1: Just keep elevating and elevating.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure for Hannah, like you were hurt last

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Speaker 2: for you to be able to step into this to

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Speaker 2: this next chapter with them. You're competing against them, but

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Speaker 2: you are all doing this together. You are collectively moving

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean last year, watching the competition, I had

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Speaker 3: From from my line, I'm still have yet to unlock

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Speaker 3: we're using ropes and harnesses to like get a mega exposure.

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Speaker 3: So I picked a burly line up there for the start,

436
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Speaker 3: and then it kind of leads me back onto the ridge,

437
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Speaker 3: this big main ridge that I just love because it

438
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 3: stands out beautifully like on the venue, and it has

439
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 3: some really cool jumps and a big hip on top

440
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Speaker 3: of the ridge that you're just kind of jumping up

441
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Speaker 3: onto the ridge over the ridge, and it's super cool,

442
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 3: like really good flow. I feel like I can have

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Speaker 3: good amplitude on that section of my line, which is

444
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Speaker 3: something the judge is like too. And then as I

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00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: have a big drop that takes the off the ridge

446
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Speaker 3: down to the bottom, and there's some jumps that I'm

447
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 3: hoping to do some tricks on.

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Speaker 2: So I fifty three feet tip to tail, probably going

449
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: to be a little bit bigger at landing. Right.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's Chelsea's draw, Chelsea, Cammy and Georgia there is

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Speaker 3: a bigger Mine's like forty.

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Speaker 2: Three, so it'll be fifty three where she lands it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I'll take a deep.

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Speaker 1: What do you feel right now when you see all

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Speaker 1: of this investment and visibility and what's going on in

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Speaker 1: the women's landscape in general, Like, what do you feel

457
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: if you could close us out? What does this feel

458
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Speaker 1: like for you? Because you're taking up space in your

459
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: carving this new path for this next generation? Like what

460
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: do we need more of? How is this making you feel?

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00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: Is it surreal? Is it like? Hello, we've been waiting,

462
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: We've been here forever, Like what is this feeling right now?

463
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: Sitting in here? You know, seeing the investment being important

464
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: to be able to live your truth and your dreams

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Speaker 1: and have all this access where you didn't have when

466
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: you were younger. We're a grom and now these younger

467
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: kids are gonna have that being able to watch you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how does it make you feel? It feels Yeah,

469
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: pretty surreal. I would say. Like when we first got

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Speaker 3: that announcement last year that women are going to be

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00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: in rampage, I had this moment of like not doubt,

472
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: but just like pressure kind of like Okay, now we

473
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: made it happen, Like the event's happening. They're investing in us,

474
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: Like now we don't want to blow it, you know,

475
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 3: like we have to almost prove, not prove, but like

476
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 3: you want to make sure that everyone agrees that you're

477
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: supposed to be there, and then after the event last year,

478
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, yeah, they're the women have are meant

479
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: to be there and they have been meant to be

480
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: there this whole time, and then coming into this year's event,

481
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 3: I just feel like the same, you know, just like

482
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: so happy and stoked to be here, and and also

483
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 3: like I'm supposed to be here too, Like the women

484
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 3: are meant to be a part of this event and

485
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 3: have space here in this sport, and yeah, I'm just

486
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: happy that we're getting that opportunity to be on this stage,

487
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: in this platform, and yeah, I'm just really excited to

488
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 3: show everyone what we're gonna do. Well.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your commitment and your passion to really move

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00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: the needle in your sport, and that's not easy to

491
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: do while you're competing, you know, is to really build

492
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: it on your on your back. And that's a testament

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00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: to these women out here who are literally building it

494
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Speaker 1: as they're flying it. And I'm really looking forward to

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Speaker 1: watching you compete. Wow, So thanks for being here, Thank

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Speaker 1: you for having.

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Speaker 2: Me, Thank you, thank you both for having me. I

498
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: don't even go to the school.

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Speaker 1: You're here forever, You're here forever.

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Speaker 2: It's an honor and wanting. I've been wanting to be

501
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: able to sit with you. So when Ashton said this

502
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: is happening, I was like, yes, please, Yeah, excited. I'll

503
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: be excited to be calling your first run at Ramby.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so be amazing.

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Speaker 1: Good Black Hannah, thank you so much. Stay tuned. I'll

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Speaker 1: be back in just a moment after this brief message

507
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: from our sponsors. Up next, we're going to bring in

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00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: Chelsea Kimball and Selimma Masekela to talk about her experience

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Speaker 1: and expectations of this year's Red Bull Rampage. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Red Bull Rampage twenty twenty five. I'm here with our

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Speaker 1: special guest, Chelsea Kimball. Welcome to the show, Salima. Nice

512
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: to have you back, sir. Thank you a legend.

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00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: I'm literally just happy to be here sitting next to Chelsea.

514
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: Just send it, just just send it.

515
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: Tell me about this, tell me about this, this name

516
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: that you have been so beautifully and gracefully given.

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, I was a rock climber before mountain biking,

518
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 4: and my friend thought of the Instagram handle from rock

519
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 4: climbing because I back in like maybe two thousand and fifteen.

520
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 4: Is when I made an Instagram because I wanted to

521
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 4: like be a mountain biker and I hadn't climbed in

522
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 4: quite a while. And I went to Eldorado Canyon in

523
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 4: Colorado and climbed with my friend. And it was a

524
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Speaker 4: route called the Casual Route.

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Speaker 1: I think, No, nothing at all was casual about it.

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Speaker 4: It was it was a five to ten, a sport

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Speaker 4: climbing route or not sport climbing route. Sorry, my brain's

528
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 4: not working at.

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Speaker 2: Great, So all right, we're in bike mode. You're switching back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, five ten a trad route. And I was like,

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Speaker 4: I was leading it, and I placed I was placing

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00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 4: some gear and a number three wild country friend right

533
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 4: before this overhang placed the cam and then I like,

534
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 4: reach up, I get the first hand, then the second

535
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 4: hand is like a beautiful hand jam. But my hand

536
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 4: was all sweaty and I slipped and I my friend

537
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 4: was blaying me. I probably I fell over three ledges.

538
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 4: I had time to scream multiple times and yeah, just

539
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: massive whipper. And he thought of that name.

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00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: Because of that, you know, And it all makes sense

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Speaker 1: because for those of you who didn't tune into twenty

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00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: twenty four, you had a little bit of a little crash,

543
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: and the way you recovered grabbing that rock and stopping

544
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: yourself from falling off of a ledge, I was like,

545
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: she went full climber mode.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: Never seen anything like it. I'm like, oh, you could

548
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: actually probably do anything you wanted. You probably did every

549
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: sport as a child, and you were insanely gifted. And

550
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: you were like, you know what, I'm going to pick

551
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: the most extreme thing. Here we go free riot. It's

552
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: for me.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, I would just come back and say that

554
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 4: anybody could do anything.

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00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: That's fair.

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00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 4: It's all about your mindset, right.

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00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: I'm letting you know, after I hiked that mountain and

558
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: I saw all those cliffs, I don't think I could

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Speaker 1: do this. I don't think I have the you know,

560
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: balls to do this, if you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: But you said that in a certain way. You said

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Speaker 4: I don't think I could do this. You didn't straight

563
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: up say I can't do that. And that just says

564
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 4: something about you, because you are leaving like one little

565
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 4: possibility of like, well maybe I could, but there's these

566
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Speaker 4: reasons that I'm not.

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00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: Do you want to know the truth? Always? Okay, I

568
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: got here yesterday, and what I love about what you

569
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: all are doing. You women are doing is you're giving

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00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: people permission through visibility and access to say I can

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00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: do this, I want to do this. Yesterday at the bottom,

572
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I can do this, I want to

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Speaker 1: do this. By the top I said absolutely not. Never.

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00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: I will not be on a bike. That drop is insane.

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00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: I can't even climb it, let alone jump it. Like

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00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: this is You're pushing the boundaries in a way as

577
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: an athlete I have never experienced in all my life.

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00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: Humbly say that there is no one out here who

579
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Speaker 1: could do what you do. Very you are the one percent.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's funny, And Chelsea, I think you'll back me up

582
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: on this. If Chelsea goes and walks around the rest

583
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: of the mountain and looks at the lines of her peers,

584
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,719
Speaker 2: she's also probably saying the same thing, like, I'm not

585
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: doing that.

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Speaker 4: I actually just said that my team is up there

587
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: helping Hannah's team with her drop right now, and I

588
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 4: was walking around because I brought them all lunch, and

589
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 4: I'm walking around those lines, and I'm like, I would

590
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 4: not want to do this. This is so gnarly, so.

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00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: Exactly yeah, exactly. It really is, and you know, I

592
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: would love to know because you you know, we were

593
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: talking to Hannah earlier. And what I keep coming back

594
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: to is the space you all are taking up, the

595
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Speaker 1: way you're granting everyone permission to want to do this,

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00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: this next generation, because what I assume is you didn't

597
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: have the visibility to say, oh I want to do

598
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: that from a really early age. It didn't exist.

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00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 4: There's there's there's one thing I don't like about how

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00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 4: you say that, and it's like granting someone permission. People

601
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: are people, They can do what they want. Nobody needs permission.

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00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: You just absolutely I feel like the key is.

603
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 4: Really to find what you want to do, whether that's

604
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 4: free Red Mountain biking or writing a book or anything like.

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00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: You don't need permission, you just need intention.

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00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: M I love that.

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00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 4: I don't want to give anybody permission because that's not mine.

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00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 4: That's that's theirs to take, not mine to give.

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Speaker 1: I love that and what I love and it's so

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00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: beautifully said, is I really believe seeing is believing. I

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00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 1: really think. You know, as a young kid, I always

612
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: saw men's sports on TV, so I wanted to be

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Speaker 1: a male athlete. I was not a man, but I

614
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: wanted to be Michael Jordan, I wanted to be Tony Hawk,

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00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to be Kelly Slater. I didn't see women

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00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: like me on TV. So what I think is so

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00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: important is the visibility piece that people are going to

618
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 1: be able to tune into this at Red Bull Live

619
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Speaker 1: and see what is possible through the lens of you.

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Speaker 1: That to me is so powerful.

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Speaker 4: It is it is super powerful. Like just having this

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00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 4: level of competition for us women is so insane, and

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Speaker 4: it is just so much visibility for the next generations.

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00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 4: Like I was just while it was raining this morning,

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00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: I was just like looking through Instagram and there's a

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00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 4: young girl from the Northwest named Mioumi that's out here

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00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 4: like at the old site, riding right now, just sending

628
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: such crazy features. And she's how old is she now?

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Speaker 4: Maybe like fifteen or sixteen, she might even be younger

630
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: than that, but she's absolutely crushing it. And I'm so

631
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 4: happy to see young girls coming up and riding like

632
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 4: this because we're here now. But unless there's a next

633
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 4: generation to take our spot and kick us out, like

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Speaker 4: this can't continue.

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00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: Well, you want to breed competition, Oh yeah, you thrive

636
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: for it. That's why you're doing what you're doing.

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00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: What did you see after last year's inaugural event, I

638
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: mean being here last year, just the amount of women

639
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: that and young girls that were here wide eyed being like,

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Speaker 2: Oh that's that's me. I can do that. But what

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00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 2: have you seen in the last year as far as

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00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: the talk and community and the idea the now possibility

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00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: that exists at this level that didn't exist before the

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00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: event last year.

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Speaker 4: I gotta say I haven't seen or heard huge differences,

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Speaker 4: Like it's a year in life, Like one year really

647
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 4: isn't that long. But I can say just like the

648
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 4: evolution over the last like five years is crazy and

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Speaker 4: it is super cool to see these young girls and

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00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: hear them say like, oh, I want to go I

651
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 4: want to be in rampage. That is awesome.

652
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I didn't exist.

653
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 4: No, no, well, in one way it did. Women were

654
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 4: never specifically excluded from rampage, never like there was only

655
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 4: one category. But nobody ever said that women cannot compete

656
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 4: at rampage. So does that mean that a woman has

657
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 4: ever been at the same level as the men. I

658
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 4: don't know, we don't know, but we were never excluded.

659
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: Like maybe there's a few girls that could have shined

660
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 4: through if they decided to take that opportunity, like if

661
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 4: they chose to see it that way.

662
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: How have you prepared? You've had a year, you know,

663
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: you know what to expect. You were here last year,

664
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: what did What has your preparation looked like now leading

665
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: up to Rampage twenty twenty five? Have have you shifted

666
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: some things? Have you gotten comfortable with the way the

667
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: judges are scoring things?

668
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 4: Like?

669
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: What has really shifted for you?

670
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 4: I mean after Rampage last year, after crashing and like

671
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 4: knowing that I could have placed well and not, I

672
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: was definitely motivated right away, like, Okay, next year, I'm

673
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 4: coming back and I want to win. Like I'm a

674
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 4: super competitive person. I'm not like competitive in the way

675
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 4: of like screw everybody else. I'm just like I want

676
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: to win, of course. But there's so many things in

677
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 4: my life that has changed over this last year, and

678
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 4: part of it centered around Rampage, and part of it

679
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 4: is just centered around like life and progressing through life.

680
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, I've been I've really tried to develop different

681
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 4: mental strategies to practice different things. I've developed more of

682
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 4: a routine. I feel like I'm still kind of learning

683
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 4: how to be a professional athlete and how to make

684
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 4: my own schedule. I've always been a person I love

685
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 4: manual labor. I love working hard, but I love working

686
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 4: for someone. I like someone to tell me, Okay, be

687
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 4: here this time and do this job. So it's been

688
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 4: a really difficult process of learning how to be my

689
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 4: own boss and how to show up and be respect

690
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 4: myself and show up for myself as I would show

691
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 4: up for someone else. And I think I've done that

692
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 4: a lot better this year, just developing a routine and

693
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 4: going to the gym consistently and just stretching and doing

694
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 4: different things to make sure my body's the best it

695
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 4: can be and mentally I'm the best I can be. Yeah,

696
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of things have changed this year,

697
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 4: and I feel the I feel confident that I have

698
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 4: done everything that I possibly could have this year to

699
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 4: be the best I can be right now.

700
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: And I imagine that gives you a great deal of

701
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: confidence moving into yes one hundred percent because you haven't

702
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: cut corners. Yeah, you didn't take shortcuts. So that to me,

703
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, has to settle the nerves when you're at

704
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: the top, knowing you did all the work when no

705
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: one was watching.

706
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's power. Yeah, it's like it's uh. I actually

707
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 4: kind of feel a little bit weird about it, Like

708
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 4: I'm I'm scared of there obviously, but uh, but I

709
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 4: do feel more comfortable than I have been in the

710
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: past in a situation like this.

711
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: This is wide open and I'm your host, Ashlyn Harris.

712
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. We'll be right back. So tell us

713
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: what we get to look forward to this year? What

714
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: is what are you gonna give us in Red Bull Rampage,

715
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: Because right off the bat, I need to know you're

716
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: gonna send it. I already know, but please, like for

717
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: the audience who may not know, let us know what

718
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: you're what you're about to do.

719
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 4: So you want to you know, want to know my line?

720
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: Give us whatever you're comfortable sharing. Okay, I'll just say competition.

721
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 4: I'll just say my dream run. So my dream run.

722
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 4: I also don't really know where to look right now.

723
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 4: Say you can look at us anyways.

724
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: I'm just here bringing up the rear.

725
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 4: Okay, my dream run drop in, I go riders left

726
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 4: down the scissor drop, I have a super wiggly run

727
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 4: into the battleship.

728
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: It's a yeah, not chill.

729
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: No, Please, before you even to move on from battleship,

730
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: please tell the audience what the battleship is here, because

731
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: whoa that is like I can't wait to watch you,

732
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: but holy shit, I'm scared for you.

733
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 4: I can't wait to watch myself. Well I have watched

734
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 4: myself in my mind.

735
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: But it made you choose it. It's obviously it's it.

736
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure my first time coming

737
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 4: out to this venue was in like twenty seventeen probably,

738
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 4: and well, I don't know back then if I looked

739
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 4: up there and thought, but I have over the years

740
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 4: looked up there and been like, wow, I wonder if

741
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 4: you could make an on off right there. And then

742
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three, Brendan Fairklaw and Shimmin Godziak made it.

743
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 4: They built me on off, They did the work up

744
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 4: there to make it actually writeable. And actually, after Rampages

745
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 4: that year, I was like, I was so close to

746
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 4: going up there. I had a crew of friends that

747
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 4: were going to go up and help me rebuild it,

748
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 4: to hit it. For some reason. Honestly, I don't know.

749
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 4: It's kind of stupid, but but yeah, I wanted to

750
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 4: hit it back then I decided not to because it

751
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 4: was super dangerous and I felt like I could practice

752
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 4: more for it. But then they announced that rampage was

753
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 4: at this venue and I'm like, well, I'm doing the Battleship.

754
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 4: That was the first thing that came to my mind.

755
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 2: Wow, can you describe the off?

756
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, you jump onto the battleship twenty one foot

757
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 4: gap like two foot step down to an uphill landing.

758
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 4: Then the actual ride service gets to be like a

759
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 4: foot and a half wide, maybe two feet. And then

760
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 4: Ryan and Eric this morning actually just made the takeoff

761
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 4: like downhill take off to like a twelve foot drop

762
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 4: onto somewhat of a lily pad off to the right

763
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 4: hand side of the ridge. They moved like tons of

764
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 4: mountain to make this landing for me. And yeah, you

765
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 4: jump off down this like ramp kind of thing and

766
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: you kind of go off into the bank and then

767
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 4: slashed back into the catch froom. It's super fun. Oh well,

768
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 4: I think it'll be super fun.

769
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you are something special.

770
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: I well hearing you describe it like that, so with

771
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: a smile, that actually lets me know like, all right,

772
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: you got it, because you've already you've already ridden it.

773
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 4: I have in my well. I actually rolled off the

774
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 4: ridge into the like the landing, so I have actually

775
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 4: ridden half of it. Yeah, yeah, for sure, I was

776
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 4: just practicing last night.

777
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: I have to ask this, is this more about proving

778
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: this to yourself, to the community, or for the one

779
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars? Why the most complicated joke? Why did

780
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: you choose this?

781
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 4: Oh, it's for you, definitely for me and then me

782
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: first for sure, one hundred percent. Like I said, I

783
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 4: wanted to do this on off back then. Now I've

784
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 4: got like recent sources to help me do it, which

785
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: is incredible and uh and then yeah, secondly because I

786
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 4: want to win.

787
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: Yep, I'm I'm wishing the best of luck. I think

788
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it. I think you're gonna nail it.

789
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: I don't think I know you are. I know you are.

790
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: I think you're in a very good place mentally and physically.

791
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: You've done the work and the rest will take over. Yep,

792
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: tell me the rest of your line? What do we

793
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: what else do we have to look forward to?

794
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 4: Okay, so yeah, off the battleship blanding. Like Lily Pedri,

795
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 4: we're calling it the plank plank of.

796
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 2: The battleship like that, it's walking a plank.

797
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 4: Yep, exactly, my friend Kayley came up with that. But anyways,

798
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,959
Speaker 4: uh yeah, bank, and then I dropped down the hill

799
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: into like another left hand burm into gap, kind of

800
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 4: long and low jump with a slightly hipped landing. Then

801
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 4: I shut it down before a feature that I actually

802
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 4: have two options on. It's like a setup step down

803
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 4: maybe fifteen feet long or yesterday I made it rollable

804
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 4: because right after that is like, it's just continuous. Ryan

805
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 4: made it continuous downhill to a step down or drop,

806
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 4: depending on your viewpoint on this conversation. But yeah, and

807
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 4: this one I'm actually calling old Greg because I don't

808
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 4: know if you guys have seen it, Old Greg? Do

809
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 4: you love me? Could you learn to love me?

810
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: I have not?

811
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: No, I have not. What is it?

812
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 4: It's like an old YouTube video with a like a

813
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 4: squid guy and he's like, cause I got a man Jina.

814
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: Oh my god, asert clip here?

815
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, who are you? I'm out Greg?

816
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah you really haven't seen him?

817
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: I will not. Now we're gonna go back. Oh yeah,

818
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 1: go look up Old Greg.

819
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 4: But but really, I keep saying I hate that feature

820
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 4: and even just calling it old Greg and saying could

821
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 4: you learn to love me? I'm like liking it just

822
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 4: a little more.

823
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: That makes you laugh. How big is the drop step down?

824
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 4: That is just over forty feet? I think? Yeah, so

825
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 4: that's like actually a pretty big one, leading into my

826
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 4: biggest drop of my line, which is drop originally built

827
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 4: by a timer McCall in like fourteen or fifteen called

828
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 4: a Presidente, and that one, to me, I love it.

829
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: It's like fifty three feet of joy.

830
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, well somebody yesterday said fifty six. I don't know.

831
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: I hope it's bigger, but let's we'll say.

832
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: So there we go. There's room for more in the land.

833
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the landing, Oh is dreamy.

834
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: Depends on what your kind of dreams you're into, but

835
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: at least there's plenty of room for you your thing.

836
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 2: That's it's iconic. I mean, you're you're starting up with

837
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: an icon and then you you you hit this other

838
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: iconic banger. Yep, like you hammer that.

839
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: Run, put it, put a bow on it. We're all leaving.

840
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: That's it, there's no more game over. Well, you have

841
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: an an electric personality. I noticed that two seconds into

842
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: meeting you yesterday. I really want to know, and I'm

843
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: sure everyone out there, who's Chelsea off the bike?

844
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 4: Who am I off the bike? It's really hard to

845
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 4: say anything about myself that's not mountain biking these days,

846
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 4: like my life totally revolves around mountain biking. But I

847
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 4: guess at heart I love adventure, Yeah, I have. Yeah,

848
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 4: I love adventure, like crazy adventures that whether it's super

849
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 4: planned or not planned. I actually did a big trip

850
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 4: with two friends in twenty twenty three in Chile, like

851
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 4: a big mission to climb up this mountain in Chile

852
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 4: and then ride down it, and it was Yeah. I

853
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 4: love stuff like that, just like going out in the

854
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 4: mountains and doing something really hard, and like I love

855
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 4: just the pure effort and actual danger of it rather

856
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 4: than something that is I don't know, everything in life

857
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 4: is just so like on a certain line, Like there's

858
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 4: so much different safety nets and all of this, and

859
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 4: I just love going out there and just like being

860
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 4: you and the nature.

861
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: Well, you clearly see the world differently. You know I shouldn't.

862
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: It's a fact. I mean you can. You want adventure,

863
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: you want the thrill. You know, it's very clear that

864
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: you live for these moments, they fuel you constantly. But

865
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: what about balance? How do you turn that adrenaline off?

866
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: How do you come down? How do you sleep?

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Speaker 4: I actually sleeping really well.

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Speaker 1: But if you actually I'm good.

869
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 4: But if you have any pointers on balance, I'll take it, because,

870
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 4: uh that I have not figured out yet. It's really

871
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 4: hard for me to like sit down.

872
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: I can see that. Yeah, I'm glad we got the

873
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: chance to sit down with you.

874
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 2: Then now stressed.

875
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's she's like, I need to get on the mountains.

876
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: So you're you. I like how you talk. You tapped

877
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: into that relationship that you have with nature. How do

878
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 2: you sort of harness the power of the mountains? Because

879
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 2: I think there's for me whenever I when I find

880
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 2: myself out there, I'm awed by the power. And then

881
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: there's this this idea that like, oh I get to

882
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: you get to explore and play and create vision in

883
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: the mountains. But the mountains just by themselves, there's just

884
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: it's this level of power even when you're here, when

885
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 2: you even before you walk up there, you're like there's

886
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: this awe and then you're you're like, hey, I'm gonna

887
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: can we play?

888
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 4: It's I think the key well, yeah, of course it's

889
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 4: just an opinion. But I feel like just the key

890
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 4: to it all is presence. Like if you if you

891
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 4: go out into nature of any sort and you think

892
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 4: of yourself as like separate from it, then then I

893
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 4: don't know, it's just it's it's different, like if you

894
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 4: go into the mountains and you just breathe and you're

895
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 4: just like you're just there, You're not thinking about something else,

896
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 4: You're just just being part of it.

897
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 2: Tap all the way in and then hit the battleship.

898
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: It's what I'm like sensing. And it's like such a

899
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: powerful thing to say because not many people move in

900
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: the world this way. But I feel like you feel

901
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 1: at peace with danger. It makes you feel live.

902
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 4: Maybe i'd like I guess, I hm feel at peace

903
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 4: with danger. I guess I could. I could. I could

904
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 4: agree with that I feel at peace with danger. But

905
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 4: I feel like danger is ever present no matter what

906
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 4: you do. If there's something bad that can happen, it

907
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 4: probably will happen, whether you're walking down the sidewalk or

908
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 4: jumping onto the battleship. There's a level of risk that

909
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 4: may change, and that also changes with with your like

910
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 4: personal abilities. But there's always danger. I could, Yeah, I

911
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 4: could walk outside in the next thunderstorm and get struck

912
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 4: by lightning.

913
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: Very true statement, It's very true.

914
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 2: And what your danger and the danger that athletes like

915
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: yourself find themselves in is calculated danger as opposed to

916
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 2: the random ass danger in the rest of the world.

917
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: The amount of preparation and calculation and building of equipment

918
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 2: and the work that you put in to people who

919
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: who aren't a part of this culture, it might those

920
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 2: people are crazy, but the level of calculation that and

921
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: kind of safety nets that already exist as opposed to

922
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: me walking across the street in Los Angeles, where each

923
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: time I make it to the other side of it's

924
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 2: there's far more that goes into it.

925
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess leading up to this year's rampage and

926
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 4: knowing what line I wanted, I guess I like I

927
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 4: made the decision as soon as the venue was announced,

928
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 4: and just like thought to myself, like being, yeah, just

929
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 4: just like knowing the risks and knowing that I am

930
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 4: choosing to uh to go ahead with what I want

931
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 4: to do even though.

932
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: Those risks are there.

933
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I guess, yeah, it's just part of it

934
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 4: that you have to be at peace with the risk

935
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 4: and the danger.

936
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: I love the way you choose to push the limits,

937
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: the boundaries. I like the air is so thin at

938
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: the top and you feel very comfortable in that and

939
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: most people that's a credit to you as a human

940
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: and the work you've done. And I don't want to

941
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: minimize that, because not everyone you know is choosing to

942
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: jump on a bike and falling off over and over

943
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: and over and waking up the next morning and saying

944
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: I was meant for this, I'm going to do it again,

945
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 1: and I'm going to do it over and over and

946
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: over again. And that is your superpower. And you are

947
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 1: so enjoy your personality. Everything about you is really fun

948
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: to be around. And I love the fact that we

949
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: got to sit down and talk to you about it,

950
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: because now I'm stoked for that jump, whereas before I

951
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: think I was a little scared. And I love that

952
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: energy about you is that you hold it so gracefully.

953
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: What do you want next? Like, what do you think

954
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: we're lacking? What do you want more of? What do

955
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: you see in the future for women in free riding?

956
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 4: Well, first, thank you, that's very very kind things, So yeah,

957
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 4: thank you. I appreciate that and let's see the future.

958
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 4: I don't want to talk to just about women. I'd

959
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 4: just rather talk about the future of mountain bikers and

960
00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 4: just people in general, because everybody has challenges and if

961
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 4: we minimize somebody else's challenges, like, what does that really

962
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 4: do for the world. Yeah, I personally like try to

963
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 4: help create and want to see more public more like

964
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 4: open public events. To me, that's like the basis of

965
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 4: free ride right now, there's so many events that are

966
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 4: invitation only, and I've always called it the cool kids club,

967
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 4: Like unless you know the right people and are friends

968
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 4: with them, then you're you're not gonna get invited. And

969
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 4: that that is the part of our sport that I

970
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 4: think is really tough and it's not my favorite. I

971
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 4: think it's it's somewhat unavoidable because not everybody can go

972
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 4: to every event. But that's why we need a little

973
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 4: bit of everything. We need more of these, like smaller,

974
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 4: more local events for people to like really become part

975
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 4: of the community and learn and ride and yeah, just

976
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 4: like be a part of it and have fun.

977
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 3: I love that.

978
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: Well, we're stoked for you. We can't wait to see

979
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: you ride. You're gonna set the tone and set the

980
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: bar very high, as you always do, and we can't

981
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,959
Speaker 1: wait to witness greatness. So thank you for showing up today.

982
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 1: Thank you for being you, Thank you for being a trailblazer,

983
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: and we'll see you Friday.

984
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 2: Thanks for being unapologetically badass.

985
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 1: Yes that part. Thanks You're welcome. Thanks everyone for tuning

986
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: in this week and hearing these incredible athletes. Thanks for

987
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: hearing all about my experience at Red Bull Rampage, and

988
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: we'll see you next week on another episode of Wide

989
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:42,560
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00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,040
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