1 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: Okay, podcast starts now. Wow Hello, Wow Wow. Borat is 2 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: on the pod today. Um, hello all, Welcome to Stradia Lab, 3 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: the only podcasting which two gay guys unpack um straight 4 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: culture but also don't do that at all. Um, George, 5 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: that was really succinct and concise. Well, you know, I'm 6 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: trying to work on my succinctness and my conciseness. You know, 7 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: somebody did tweet about our earnestness bonanza once they said, uh, 8 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, I love hearing a podcast that takes twenty 9 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: five minutes talking about what it's about to do and 10 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: then wondering if I should listen to the rest of 11 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: the podcast. They actually did, and I was like, well, 12 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: I can't tell if you hate it or like it, 13 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna like it so that I'm going to 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: take ownership and pretend that this is positive. A common 15 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: theme for us is that our positive reviews uh insult 16 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: us to our at our core. And you know, I 17 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: would like to issue the Stradio Lab challenge. If you 18 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: have not reviewed our podcast yet, go ahead and head 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: to Apple and write the meanest ship you can possibly 20 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: think of, and we will interpret it as a good thing. 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: I don't want right right, something that I don't want. 22 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: I don't want people to like ruin our Like you 23 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: still should still give us five stars, and you should 24 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: still make it seem like you're part of a really 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: cool inside joke that other people should want to be 26 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: a part of. Like I don't want people to like 27 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: review it and be like this sucks ass. But I 28 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: do think the Stradio Lab challenge is to neg us 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: in the review. Yeah, that is definitely find a way 30 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: find a way to insult us in the review while 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: also drumming up buzz for our hot gay podcast are 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: Hot Gay and needless to say succinct podcast to sinct. 33 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: I did like that that we kept talking about being 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: succinct and concise, which are essentially synonyms, meaning we were 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: not being neither succinct nor concise. By mentioning both of 36 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: them in the same sentence. It's a real you know 37 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like and you were like, oh, 38 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: my year's solution is to be succinct and concise. It's like, well, 39 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: you're all or you're not doing a great job. Well 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: it's hard. You know, the beginning of the year, you're 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: still trying to be trying to get rid of old habits. 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: I know. You know, one thing I do find, unfortunately funny, 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: is when I just say the same thing using different 44 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: words over and over again. It's one of the funniest thing. 45 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: I genuinely agree with you, and I think it's one 46 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: of the funniest things to be like, you know, I'm 47 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: doing well and also good and need let's just say 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: better than bad, like I mean, yeah, yeah, that that's 49 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: to make the word, to make the third one a 50 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: multi word synonym. I mean, that's just genius to go 51 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: good and well and also needless to say what was 52 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: the last one? Better than bad? Better than bad and 53 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: and and you know, someone who doesn't have the talent 54 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: that you have would have said not bad, because that's 55 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: the direct antonym. But to do but to say better 56 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: than bad, First of all, you're doing the rule of threes. 57 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: Second of all, you're doing a more complicated third one, 58 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: which is good. And then saying better than bad is like, okay, 59 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: well you're no longer good, you know. I, Um, are 60 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: we doing a good job of being succinct and concise? 61 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: Do you think? Of course? Of course? Um? Yeah. As 62 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: I've always said, I got into stand up comedy as 63 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: a way to meet shlubs, you know, you know, big 64 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: guys and plaid shirts. That's always been my goal. But 65 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: I also think part of me, the part that was 66 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: not my choice, was the fact that I do just 67 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: generally sometimes have trouble forming sentences, and I think, you know, 68 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: it kind of passes as comedy because people are like, wow, 69 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: he got there, but it's really, um not that on purpose? Yeah, 70 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: well it would. It is true that often UM being 71 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: more succinct and more concise would actually make something less funny. 72 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: I mean in many ways, yeah, I think. Well, I 73 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: mean just now you said in many ways, yeah it would. 74 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: That's more funny than saying I just said, yeah that affirmative. 75 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean, what am I the Daily? What am I 76 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: apes ap? I mean, listen, first of all, let me 77 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: just say The Daily could stand to be a little 78 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: worse thing, necnd sized. Okay, okay, shots fired. Um, I 79 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: love that. Uh. I listened to Michael Barbara this very 80 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: morning and I swore him off. And I know, I mean, 81 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: he really is talk about an addiction. I can't kick 82 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: this guy. I sometimes I'm listening to him and I'm like, 83 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: why are you even saying? Like who who elected you 84 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: the voice of my morning. I didn't vote on you, 85 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: no um putin. I do think I've been I haven't. 86 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: I have not listened to Michael Barbara consistently in truly years. 87 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: But you know, when I will listen to him, I 88 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: will suddenly wake up, Like the day of the Georgia 89 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: runoff election, I suddenly will wake up and for the 90 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: first time in six months, be like, I have to 91 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: listen to Michael Barbara. That is exactly what I did. 92 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: And because you know, you want to feel something. When 93 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: you want to feel something, when there's joy, when there's 94 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: good news, you want to be like, Okay, I'm gonna 95 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: relish in this a little like give me the New 96 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: York Times podcast production of this good news and let 97 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: me really feel it. And I'll and I'll say this 98 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to the news ecosystem, and I'm not 99 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: talking about you know, real journalism, like a report about 100 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: war crimes. I'm talking about, uh, the ecosystem that is 101 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: cable news, social media and and kind of daily podcasting. 102 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: It really is a heart You have to go with 103 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: a harm reduction model. You know you're going to consume 104 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: some of it, but you can't. You can't drown, and like, 105 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: if you just allow yourself to ambiently be watching cable 106 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: news while also being on Twitter, you're gonna kill yourself. 107 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: So I do you think the daily in despite the 108 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: fact that it's not necessarily sustinct or concise, you know 109 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: at least it's going to be over in twenty minutes 110 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: and then you can you can move on. You have 111 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: permission to move on. You have permission to move on. 112 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: You're not making a huge commitment. You're not saying I'm 113 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: going to stick around here for three hours. You're saying 114 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: this is gonna be twenty minutes and then I'm done 115 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: with it. I sorry that this might be boring and 116 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: potentially not comedy. Um, however, bring back newspapers. I mean, 117 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: I know they're still around, but but bring them back 118 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: as the only option. Like I was, I don't as 119 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: I was talking about I have you know, I doom 120 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: scroll on Twitter. I do just want every morning to 121 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: have like my news half hour and then be done 122 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: with it. Do you know what's crazy? It's like that 123 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: is a possibility not not in my life, that's available 124 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: to you for me. Yeah, well, how will I make 125 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: incredible topical Joe on the day's trending topics. George, Oh, 126 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: I see, okay, how will when these war crimes unfold 127 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: by our beautiful investigative journalists, will I make a hilarious 128 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: riff on Twitter about it? If I'm not aware of it, 129 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: If I'm making a joke about war crimes, I'm not 130 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: doing my job. And if I'm not doing my job, 131 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: the people aren't getting their satire. And if people don't 132 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: get their satire, that's fascism, that's Trump, that's Trump, that's gossip, 133 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: that's gossip. Well, I think we should bring in our guests. 134 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: Let's bringing our guests. I think we've said more than enough, 135 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: and we're being succinct and remain succinct and concise. Now, 136 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: this is someone who I would say is the just 137 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: the right level of succinct and just the right level 138 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: of concise. Yeah, and it's also currently bathed in kind 139 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: of a gorgeous I would say magenta or fusha, No, 140 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: not fusha. What what what would you call that? Sam? I 141 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: would say pink, yes, and a gorgeous maybe even electric pink. 142 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: In fact, quit t it's it's pink, George, pink. It's 143 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: it's a pinkish, it's a purplish pink. You know it's 144 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: it's the color of the singer Pink's hair back when 145 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: she was still trying to do hip hop. Yes, and 146 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: and Sydney agrees, And ladies and gentlemen, let's get started. Okay, 147 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: Sydney Washington is here, and I am this thing, and 148 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: I am on time, and I'm loving it. This is 149 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: the energy. I didn't want to put you on the pop, 150 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: but the journey for us from the moment we asked 151 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: you to the podcast to the moment we pressed record. 152 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, James Cameron should write a movie 153 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: about it. I can mediate this conversation if you guys 154 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: want to get into what happened, well, I just want 155 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: to say up top, the whole thing was racist and homophobic, 156 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: just the whole interaction. Not us, but just like the 157 00:08:54,400 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: energy like trying to stop us from creating this beautiful podcast. 158 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: Everyone needs to listen to you exactly. It was just 159 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: so many things that were no, no, no, no, no, 160 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: this is not going to happen. Right. Well, people talk 161 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: about shadow banning, and I do think that's maybe what's happening, 162 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: because it is at every stage we were betrayed by 163 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: the platforms we trusted most and I'm talking I'm talking 164 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: I Message, I'm talking Gmail, I'm talking zen Cast, the 165 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: platform we used to record, I'm talking about Zoom. I'm 166 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: talking more broadly Apple because of the because your air 167 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: prods would connect. Every single tech company said, no, we 168 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: don't want three queer three members of the queer community 169 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: to talk about UH, to talk about facts, to talk 170 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: about feelings, culture, culture, talk about culture, and two a 171 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: pine about things. Well, nevertheless, we're here. We're here. Wait 172 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: you know what, hold on, let me just I'll make 173 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: it really quick. So George messages me through my message. 174 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: Originally his name was in there as George and um, 175 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: unfortunately somebody has a number that's similar to his. I 176 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: change his name to the person's name. So I originally thought. 177 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, George wants me to do his podcast. 178 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: And then my other friend, Zadia, who I didn't even 179 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: know how to podcast, also wants me to do the 180 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: podcast on the same day. George emails me to confirm 181 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: the time, and I was like, oh wow, I have 182 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: two podcasts at the same time. So I tell George. 183 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, we have to cancel that 184 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: time and do it another, we have to do it 185 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: later because I have this other podcast at for our 186 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: clock podcast does not exist. Literally, this is like what 187 00:10:55,240 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: what movie is? What? It's like Mrs Doubtfire. It's like 188 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: Mrs Doubtfire And on text, I am what's your friend's name? 189 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: Zadia is my Mrs Doubtfire character that I use on text, 190 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: And then and then I'm George on Gmail. So literally 191 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: the conversation goes as follows. I said, let me know 192 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: if if four or five thirty pm works best? You 193 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: said five pm. This is on text. I said perfect, 194 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: I'll email you with details and a zoom link. George 195 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: definitely emailed me right after with literally right after emailed okay. 196 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: Then I get it and I emailed saying confirming for um. 197 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: Then you text, wait, can I do it at four? 198 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: I have another podcast at five thirty? Then I said, okay, 199 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: give me one sec to check. I go, I reschedule 200 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: with our other guests, and then I email you updated 201 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: zoom to which updated zoom four four pm when we 202 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: are rescheduling too, to which you reply literally a minute later, 203 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: is it at five thirty or four? To which I say, 204 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: just just switched them, which didn't tell you Sam, I 205 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: want to hear what wait, hold on, hold on. So 206 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: I said, okay, four pm, just removed, just switched to 207 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: the to which you reply literally that minute, oh darn, 208 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: I have another podcast at four pm. And so then 209 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: I say, wait, so you have one at four and 210 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: one at five thirty L O L. And then you reply, well, 211 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: I'm free at five thirty because that was our original time. 212 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: So then I say, okay, we'll switch it back cut 213 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: to today at four pm when you text me didn't 214 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: get the zoom link. So then I send you the 215 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: zoom link and I say it's for five thirty, but 216 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: here you go, and then you reply, no, remember I 217 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: needed it at four. Oh my god, George, what were 218 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: you saying to Sam? I know you were talking ship. 219 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: I was not talking. I was admittedly I was like, 220 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I think something is wrong with Sydney, 221 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: like the Sydney. It literally was like something is off here, 222 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: like this is someone I've known for years. At first 223 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: it was like Sydney's like having a lot of scheduling, scheduling. 224 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I guess you know, she's big time. 225 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: And then it was like, wait, something's up, like this 226 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: is not normal in any way. You know what it is. 227 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: Sydney was acting like a straight person. That's what it was. 228 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: It was straight. It was straight behavior because I was like, 229 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: are you playing mind? It was straight behavior of like 230 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: you're my boss at the at the big company and 231 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: at the big firm, and it's my and I'm the intern, 232 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: and you say, and you say, and you're playing these 233 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: mind games with me. And then right of I'm about 234 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: to crack, you say, can handle it. You know what 235 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: it is. It was so like the communication was wrong. 236 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: I was absent minded. I was not the fact that 237 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: I changed your name and to somebody else's that. But 238 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: you have to say, as much as I want to, 239 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: and you know in this podcast we always blame systemic 240 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: problems and not and do not succumb to the language 241 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: of personal responsibilities as much as I want to blame 242 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: the tech companies, the fact that you went in and 243 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: changed my name, your name, George, that have you changed 244 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: Have you checked Zaudia's number? Like? Is that as George? 245 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: Like I didn't even save her number? Is gone? Not 246 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: a stage, not saved at all. I also love I mean, 247 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if Zaudia maybe a comedian and maybe 248 00:14:54,640 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: it's not crazy, but I love you just had a 249 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: a billion You're far away from comedy as that is 250 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: an essential worker. Zodia is literally a nurse on the 251 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: front lines of the pandemic. And Sidney's like, oh, I 252 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: guess she has a podcast and no questions asked can 253 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: you do? Like can you actually make it five thirty 254 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: because I have no podcast before, Like I love that? 255 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: Who am I? I don't know, I'm sorry. I would 256 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: like to formally apologize for now not only taking up. 257 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: So it took us, like it took us twenty minutes 258 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: just to get the podcast started on my end. Well 259 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: that was the other thing. Well, there are three elements 260 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: of this one which is no one's fault. But one 261 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: is that we've been trying to get you on this 262 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: podcast for maybe six months, and each time we reschedule, 263 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's no one's fault. But each 264 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: time then we kind of like go back to our 265 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: list and then we like remember you, we remember again, 266 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: and we like get back to you two months later. 267 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: So it's been six months of trying to get you on. 268 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: Finally we do get you on. There's this entire I 269 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: mean truly um, who's first type or deal? Then we 270 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: get on and then you're two different pairs of headphones. 271 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: Don't work for you. This is straight behavior, I'm telling you. 272 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: At first we were going to talk about TikTok, but 273 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: I really feel like since we've already we're twelve minutes 274 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: in on just how I started this podcast off, we 275 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: could talk about the old me, which was straight. I 276 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: used to be straightforward, used to be straight, and you 277 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: know what I do. I do want to I do 278 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: want to talk about that, but I want to say 279 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: one thing, which is I'm thinking of what you're saying, 280 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: which is that you are exhibiting straight behavior. And I 281 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: think what it is is I'm and I promise I'm 282 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: not saying this to drag you, but the trade element 283 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: is having showing a difficulty with simple tasks behavior. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, 284 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: go off, George. Let me. We've all been there. We've 285 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: all been so often we we I mean, I'm trying 286 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: to think of like the most recent It's like someone 287 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: will give you very simple instructions and you will somehow 288 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: not get it in your head completely. It's it's it's humiliating. 289 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: It's so real and it's just like I will say 290 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: that my communication is so much better now as a 291 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: lesbian that I would have these issues with um straight 292 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: men where I would say something and I was like, 293 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: how do they not get I'm saying it very right, 294 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm precise, I'm concised, you know what is the deal? Right? 295 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: And now I am a straight man? Yes, well it's 296 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: I think maybe the topic then is like something along 297 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: the lines of um communication, what is the straight topic? 298 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: It's like, I think genius, but then it's like it's 299 00:17:53,440 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: like lack of communication. Miscommunication. Yes, yes, literally, great culture 300 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: is a series of miscommunications. Beautiful And I just want 301 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: to also put together how we collaborated. This is very gay, 302 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: that exactly exactly because it has brought our minds together 303 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: and the fact that we're you know, they're there to 304 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: um you know, beigement and a black woman involved. This 305 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: is the gayest thing that can ever possibly happen in history. Yes, 306 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: the gayest thing is two white men, but it is 307 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: it is like what you're saying, it's like gay we 308 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: are doing what we're doing that was collective meaning making 309 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: and that's why there's no miscommunication because we're arriving at 310 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: concepts together, whereas the straight way is everyone is in 311 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: their own little brain constantly trying to talk at one another, 312 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: but no one's actually communicating. And here's what I will 313 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: say to say the other side, Um, you know, just 314 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: just so we can prove our point. Well, you know, 315 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: I know a lot of improvisers who spent a lot 316 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: of time in those basements that UCB Chelsea, who are 317 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: very straight, and they would say, well, hey, hey, wait 318 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: a minute, we collaborate, we come up with collective ideas. 319 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: Is that not straight? But the thing is, what are 320 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: the I'm sorry, but when you're at an improv show, 321 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: let's say a straight improv show, what are the ideas 322 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: they're coming up with. They're so problematic and at jetting, 323 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: and the people involved, unless they're straight, are looking around 324 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: like do we do this right? I remember, yes, you're 325 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: totally right. I remember thinking he was fully groundbreaking to 326 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: see like a straight guy improvised sucking another straight guy's dick. 327 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: Like I was like, he's not even like thinking it's gay. 328 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, that's that's bad. But you know, 329 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: and I do think Sydney, you're pointing to something very interesting, 330 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: which is that when straight people do come together to 331 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: come up with one idea, it ends up being a 332 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: problematic So it's like they came everyone came together, came 333 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: up with the idea. What was that idea? Racism? What 334 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: was that idea? Homophobia? The capital in the capital like that, 335 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: It's like finally we got together and there was no miscommunication. 336 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: It's like, well, maybe would have a better if there was. 337 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: Can we just talk about the capital for two seconds? Okay, 338 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: I believe, I personally believe not a gay person in sight, 339 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: not attractive person inside. It was all heterosexuals that never 340 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: take a shower, are dressed properly. They all came together 341 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: to say we belong in this building and we are 342 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: going to change some ship up psychotic. To keep in mind, 343 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: this will be coming out in two weeks um, which 344 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: you know we can still talk about it, but just 345 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: keep in mind. I know I am worried, like this 346 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: will be going on for whiwing Honey, They're not gonna 347 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 1: it's true. You know said your episode is coming out 348 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: the day before the inauguration. Okay, this is you. You 349 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: should have started with that. Why do you why this 350 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: is the last Okay, if you're hearing our words, right, 351 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: now this is the last day of the drum presidency 352 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: in theory. Oh my god, oh my gosh, wow. An 353 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: episode of queer collective meaning making to celebrate the beginning 354 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: of a new the dawn of a new era. That's right, 355 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's America. Whoa, that's actually insane. I had a 356 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: goal when Trump got elected that I was gonna be 357 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: fucking ripped as ship on the other end, and um, 358 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: it actually didn't come true because and you know, I'm 359 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: making an excuse right now, and there's no space for 360 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: excuses in my workout routine. But it's because of the 361 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: pandemic and I don't go to gym's anymore. But it's all. 362 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: But also you have to look at the people who 363 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: do have like ripped bodies and abs, and they actually 364 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: look kind of sad, you know, like just it's just like, 365 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: who is this y No, no, no, no, no, that's 366 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: not true. That's not true. No no no, no, no, no no, no. 367 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: Don't know what kind of wickcraft is going on. I 368 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: want to know. I watched Top Model, I know, so 369 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: it's literally that you know your angles, I suck in. 370 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: I eat grapefruits for like four days in a row 371 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: and then does that wrang um? Yeah, well, grape fruit 372 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: is really good for burning fat, so that like burning 373 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: the actual lining of your stomach if you eat too 374 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: many of interesting. Yeah, it's like if you eat too 375 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: many lemons and you get like acid reflux. That's pretty 376 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: much what I'm doing to the line. Okay, sign me up. 377 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: I think you're extremely right that having a ripped, asked 378 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: body right now is like a full red flag. It's like, wait, 379 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: what is up with you? Yeah? When like what you 380 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: think this is ending in a month, it's for a 381 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: wild babe, Honey, did you not get see the memo? 382 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: Did you not see the people in at the airport 383 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and Christmas and everyone was in Jamaica for New 384 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: Year's We're gonna be We're gonna be here. We're gonna 385 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: be here. I hate, I hate that we are actually 386 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: going to be here. I want to say that the 387 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: pandemic is also straight. Yes, mean what is the pandemic? 388 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: If not again, it's going back to this idea of 389 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: a series of miscommunications. Yes, well, it's it's also the family, 390 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's focusing on the home, and 391 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: it's focusing on the nuclear faith it's the domestic. Yeah. Oh, 392 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that, right, I mean a 393 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: queer a queer pandemic would be one where it actually 394 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: was in the home, and the only way to not 395 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: get it was to be constantly going to kind of 396 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: warehouse parties. Let's do our first segment real quick since 397 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: we're on a roll, and then we can just keep 398 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: talking about that. I love that the topic is miscommunication, 399 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: Okay said, So this is a little chaotic up, Sam, 400 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: Should I introduce it? Okay? So said. Our first segment 401 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: is called Straight Shooters, and it is a segment where 402 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: we gauge your familiarity with straight culture. So we're going 403 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: to give you a series of kind of A or 404 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: B type questions and it really is just like free association. 405 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: You just have to pick the one that you're most 406 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: drawn to. Okay. Some people pick the one that they 407 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: think is straight, or some people think the one that 408 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: they're that's their favorite. The one role is you can't 409 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 1: ask us any follow up questions, and if you do, 410 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: you'll lose points. And there's no right answers, and there's 411 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: no wrong answers. But if you're wrong, you don't know. Okay, 412 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: all right, um, Okay, I'll go okay, okay, Sydney Bitcoin 413 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: or Wayne Coin of the Flaming Lips Bitcoin, Sydney Malarkey 414 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: or Alan Arkin Malarkey, Sydney Pollice Lever's Inclined Planes or 415 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: brute strength. You're getting her very difficult ones today, say 416 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: okay said exposed brick or exposing yourself? Oh brick, that 417 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: sounds I want to sample um student, pupil apprentice or 418 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: nameless intern, nameless intern, sewing division or knitting a scarf, 419 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: knitting a scarf, savings account, checking account or distrust of banks, 420 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: Distrust of banks? Bang Bang by Nancy Sinatra, Bang Bang 421 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: by Jesse j Nicki minaj and are on a Grande 422 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: or comedy Bang Bang a Incle So I we're trying 423 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: to be more You know, this podcast is about showing 424 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: the seams and talking about what's happening as it's happening. 425 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: So I just want to know what did you think 426 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: of that? Were there any that stumped you? Yeah, we're 427 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: doing a user survey, user survey. I mean it just 428 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: there was no rhyme, no reason, just right. It wasn't 429 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: especially chaotic group of questions. I will say that both 430 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: on my end, and on Sam's d there was there 431 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: was no I couldn't follow a pattern. It was just like, okay, 432 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, we're at the top of 433 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: the hill. Now we're in the middle of the hill. 434 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: Now we're back at the top. Oh no, no, now 435 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: we fell down the hill. It's just yeah, I couldn't 436 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: really keep up. Yeah, yeah, no, it was. I will say, 437 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: as a group of questions, that may have been the 438 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: most difficult one we've ever given anyone. Thank you. Well, 439 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: you know, when someone comes on here that hosts their 440 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: own podcast, I always say, well, we gotta turn up 441 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: the heat because you know, they know how to sort 442 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: of have this sort of free flowing conversation. And you know, 443 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: it's not about having people be poised on the podcast, 444 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: having people be raw and people be honest. And so 445 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: I said, you know, let's give her something that makes 446 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: her honest. Sydney, would you rather be poised or raw? 447 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: I would like to. I think I am wrong, but 448 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: I would love to just know what it feels like 449 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: to be poised, because I have this news. Your perception 450 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: of yourself is so different than our perception. But I 451 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: knew that. I think I knew this I knew this 452 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: about you, George. We've spoken about this, We've spoken about this. 453 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: But it's also interesting because I think you often and 454 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: again not to um not to drag you through the cold, 455 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: but come on, bring it on, bring it on. You 456 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: do want to have it both ways, and that you 457 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: want your persona to be both that you're really hot 458 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: and that you're like a mess. You can do both. 459 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: I think if more hot people let people see their flaws, 460 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: then they would be likable. Alright, jam Jamale, Now that 461 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: now that's a drag I'm not going to take. Jamie 462 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: Jamiale is like scary to me, Like how much like 463 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: what level of talking about her will she see? Like 464 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: she's checking? She is, She's very she's very much Jamale. 465 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: Jamale is one of these There's a class of celebrities 466 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: and I said this about Harry Styles in our previous episode. 467 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: There's a class of celebrities where my question about them 468 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: is what's the end game? Yeah, and I very much 469 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: feel that with Jamal. So you're saying that you guys 470 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: don't um check, You don't google yourself. You don't do that. 471 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: I google myself sometimes but not. But we're also not 472 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: like on a big NBC sitcom, like I have to 473 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: hope that once I was like a certain level of successful, 474 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: I would be like, well, I have to kind of 475 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: check out of that, because obviously people are gonna be 476 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: saying crazy ship. It's impossible to check out. I mean, 477 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: I could very much lay right now. If I woke 478 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: up next you know, tomorrow, and I was suddenly Jamale, 479 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: Jamale the star of NBC is the good place, I 480 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: would absolutely be googling myself left and right, and I 481 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: will say that is very much um day behavior. I'm 482 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: to say that gay behavior. I think that we are 483 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: people that just love to hurt. It feels good. We 484 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: love that pain. It's just it's very toxic, and it's 485 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: a different type of toxic than like what straight people endure, 486 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: because straight people get married, and that's that's the most 487 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: toxic thing you could possibly do, right, So get so 488 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: googling yourself? Is the game? Is gay marriage? Yes, that's 489 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: exactly what it is. Right, So it's like it's not 490 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: the people fighting for marriage equality should have just googled 491 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: themselves and kind of maybe that would have scratched the 492 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: same toxic hit. That's the feeling they were looking for. 493 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: Is a feeling of vaguely being watched but also unsatisfied. 494 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: I do feel like if you're a famous person and 495 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: you like have a child, you like don't have time 496 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: anymore to like google yourself. Yeah, well no, I think 497 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: if if there's more reason to google yourself because you're like, 498 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,959 Speaker 1: what is my kids seeing of me? Because I know 499 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: my kid is googling me? True? But also what if 500 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: you're Hilaria Baldwin and all you do is that poor 501 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,239 Speaker 1: poor woman? I feel so mad. I do love. Um, 502 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: there's something. I mean, all all of the you know, 503 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: people like Rachel Dollars and stuff, all that stuff is 504 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: so kind of dark to me that I do like 505 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 1: the idea of someone doing that, but just for another 506 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: white nationality, because it feels so harmless and fun. Like 507 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: I like Hilaria Baldwin pretending to be Spanish. Why. I 508 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: just mean like I like it as a fun news 509 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: story in a way that I can find humor, in 510 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 1: a way that I can't find humor, And like you 511 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: remember that one, It's like fluff Anger exactly, It's fluff Anger. 512 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: It's like seeing a horror Although someone pointed out to 513 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: me that then she's like kind of taking on the 514 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: experience of being an immigrant, which is has its own 515 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: baggage regardless of whether you're white or not, which was 516 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: a pretty convincing argument. But I still think I mean 517 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: hilario more like hilarious. I mean, the name of Hilaria 518 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: is extremely confused Halilaria, the fact that her original name 519 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: is Hillary. Yeah, I mean gentrification, like it's the reverse gentrification, 520 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: but you know it actually is gentrification because it's like hilarious. 521 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: You're trying to make something like Hillary like a thing, 522 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: You're trying to make it cooler than what it is, 523 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: and it's like it's not. And then and then my 524 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: issue with um Hilaria and just everything that's going on 525 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: is like now there's more people impersonating her, these impressions 526 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: of Hillary, and it's white people with their impressions of 527 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: what a Latin or Spanish person sounds like. But I 528 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: would never but it's getting more and more problematic us. 529 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: It's just the wheel keeps turning. I do feel like 530 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: I just just defend myself because I did just do 531 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: that as a Greek person. Impersonating a Spanish person to 532 00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: me seems harmless. Neighbors and we have a very similar 533 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: accent and I and we're both white Europeans. Is that crazy? 534 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: Should I be canceled? No? I mean it's it's it's 535 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: a tough Well, you know we're gonna cut We're absolutely 536 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: gonna cut a nice, good five minute trunk there. Okay, 537 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: I love this pod. This is really bringing me all 538 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: of the joy that I was today. Is it? You know, 539 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: it's it's tough. It's a tough pod. Uh. You know, 540 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: this pod is not for babies. It's not for people 541 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: that don't do pods all the time. This is sort 542 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: of expert level. It is expert level. And I have 543 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: to say, you are showing up and you are doing 544 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: the work, and you are stepping up to the plate. 545 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: Talk about being concise and succinct. Well, the problem is 546 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: that I I started off so rough that I was like, 547 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna say you will just reschedule. So now I'm like, 548 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: now I finally feel thirty minutes in, I felt I'm 549 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: a lot more calm because I was on edge. I 550 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: was like, this is I'm awful, this is terrible. Well, 551 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 1: you were showing off you you you said because of 552 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: the headphone issue and because of the email issue, you 553 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: came on. You were like, oh, they want a podcast, guest, 554 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: I'll give them a podcast, and now you can kind 555 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: of chill out, let your hair down and have a 556 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: blast while I have my bonnet on. I'm like, yeah, 557 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: I'll have my hair down, thank you. Oh wait, George, 558 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: did you forget that? I messaged you and I was like, 559 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: do I need to wear makeup? I know? I was like, 560 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: oh right. That's the other thing is I was like, 561 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: something's off when she's asking me if she needs to 562 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: wear makeup for my comedy podcast. That's what I should 563 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: have known. But because they do the videos and I 564 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm really against it voice face. Yes, No, it's a 565 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: different it's a different thing. I am. It's not right. 566 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: I see how people are trying to get two and 567 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: one and it's wrong. It's right. So there's nothing I'm sorry, 568 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: but there's nothing more are like just pathetic than a 569 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: video of a podcast recording. That's kind of where I 570 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: was going. I was thinking, like, look, anyone that enjoys 571 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: this beautiful podcast, I love you, I respect you. You're 572 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 1: so beautiful. If we made this podcast a video podcast 573 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: and you were still consuming it, I would say, grow up, 574 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: get a life. There's plenty of TV shows on HBO 575 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: Max watch that business. What video podcasts exactly? And you 576 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: know why I was just thinking this. I think it's 577 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: a very straight thing to not understand the limitations of 578 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: a form, Like it's very straight to be like I'm 579 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: going to adapt this book into a movie. I'm gonna 580 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: adapt this movie into a podcast. It's like, let everything 581 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: be what it needs to be. Stop forcing it. I 582 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: love the way you speak, George. This is soothing and 583 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: so sensual too. Also, the video podcast is like, if 584 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: you accidentally stumble upon a video podcast, there's like a 585 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: chance it's someone all right. Well, that's the main thing. 586 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: I don't want people who think we're all right. And 587 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: if we were to release videos of this podcast, it 588 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: would sound very different. It would. It's especially about you know, 589 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: our hilarious bit. I know. I mean me, imagine like 590 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: an out of context video of me literally being like 591 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: I think I can make I think I can do 592 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: a Spanish accent. Yes, yeah, well that's not how you 593 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: sounded do it. I think do the do the accent. 594 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what's my no, I'm not gonna do you 595 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do. Now it's getting now it's 596 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 1: we're really sorry. I realized, I really I just feel 597 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: like for a Greek person a Spanish person, it's similar 598 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: to like someone from New York and someone from Alabama 599 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: doing their accents. Is that wrong? The European Union, we're 600 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: all part of the same culture. Okay, So you're what 601 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: you're saying is you're saying if like a New Jersey 602 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: person was doing a like a New York accent, it's 603 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of okay because they're they're close. Here. Here's 604 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: what I'll say. I I have you know, in my 605 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: I've spent every summer in Greece since I was a kid. 606 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 1: I've met many Spanish tourists that come to Greece. Um, 607 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: we've had exchanges of like, what does this mean in 608 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: your language? What does this mean in your language? Trying 609 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 1: out the accidents off it has felt sorry, cucumber, what's cucumber? 610 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 1: What is cucumber? Oh? Just like, what is cucumber? Because 611 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: we're in Greece. Yes, correct, exactly, Hilario when she was 612 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: like she didn't know how to say cumber in English? 613 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: How you say cucumber? Yeah? My point is is that 614 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: I've never it's there's not a there's not some kind 615 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 1: of power dynamic where Greece has more power than Spain 616 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: or Spain has more power than Greece. That would make 617 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: it feel problematic. Okay, now now I get it. You explained, 618 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: and now I feel more comfortable. And if anybody wants 619 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: to come at us, let's go. I'll take it. I'll 620 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: take the shot. Oh my god, well incredible. Now that 621 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: did feel alright? Is me like vehemently defending myself? Oh? 622 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: That's I mean, it was good. It was good. You're 623 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: allowed to defend yourself without being all right. Yeah, it 624 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 1: felt like actually an episode of Law and Order. That's 625 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: what that means. That's great. So you're calling me a 626 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 1: copy Olivia Benson. Yeah, that's what you are. You wish 627 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: you were Olivia Benson. I mean, don't we all wait? Okay, 628 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 1: so Olivia Benson, do we believe that she's a straight 629 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: woman or gay? And that's what it comes down to, 630 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: Olivia Benson, Well, you're a queer woman who has straight experience. 631 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: So what do you think, um, the coldness that she has? Uh, 632 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: I feel like she's a top yeah, top and low key. 633 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: She actually gives me a sexual vibes, Olivia. Yeah, like 634 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: she's had relationships with people, but it just it just 635 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: don't I don't feel it. It feels forced mm hmmm, 636 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: like I can't. Like there's been like her tussling in 637 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: the bed before, like rolling around with someone, and it 638 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: just was like, Okay, she's not method, she's not method 639 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: at all. Well, sometimes some people sexuality is cop. Okay, 640 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 1: cop is a sexuality. I didn't know exactly. I didn't 641 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: know that. Like I think I do think cop is 642 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: a sexuality. And it's not on the LGBTQ plus spectrum. 643 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: No it is not. It's not in that plus. It's 644 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: in the minds. But it hurts though, it hurts, And 645 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: I don't see her as a cop. First of all, 646 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: she's a detective. Different Okay, interesting, Okay, yeah, sure yeah. 647 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: Detectives actually do the work. Cops just show up. Okay, 648 00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: here she goes nose, which are good, Benson, we have 649 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: to come on detective to Tuola, like those are the 650 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: good ones. Wow, a cop, but also detective Sydney to 651 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: come on this podcast and just start defending cops from 652 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 1: moment one. Actually, we're very late in the game, so 653 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: it's true. It's true. We are. I mean, I'm glad 654 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: I only do that and only pick forty minutes for 655 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: you to bring up how much you love cops. You 656 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: know this is uh comedy is subjective and it's true, 657 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: as is the justice, the criminal justice stem. All of 658 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: this is for laughs, for ships and giggles. Anybody who 659 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: takes this seriously, you have too much time in your hands. Wow. 660 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,479 Speaker 1: Now that also spoken like a true alright podcast? So man, 661 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: I am I'm I don't even know who I am 662 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: right now. I know it's tough. We have that. I 663 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: think this podcast has that I on people where they 664 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: leave and they're like, what am I was? That? Was that? Unethical? 665 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: Stand right? Like? Is this immoral? So often you know 666 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: Sam and I we'll do anything for the bit. I mean, 667 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: that's what we act. So stupid we act, We say 668 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: things we don't believe. We kind of like intentionally push 669 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: buttons only to then backtrack and then sometimes we'll stop 670 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: recording and we're like, are we coming across as so bad? 671 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: Right now? But wait, do you do you guys edit 672 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: your own pod. That's where the power is to be, 673 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: like actually going to take my pot into my own hands. Yeah, Ti, 674 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,439 Speaker 1: we edit this, you're going to sound like very bad. 675 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: Well I'll take that, and I'm I'm proud. I'm proud. 676 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: I think the funniest edits are when I truly just 677 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: edit out, like me commenting like two words and I'm like, you, like, 678 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: that was so embarrassed. I do that so much. If 679 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: George were editing, you probably wouldn't notice, like my thing 680 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: that I think is really embarrassing and it doesn't matter. 681 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: But I'm like, oh, I know, but you know what though, 682 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: I was thinking of it that the other day, like 683 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: it just you know how you have those moments where 684 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: you're just like freezing your like flat like flashes before 685 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: your eyes. I have them where I was like, oh 686 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: my god. The weeks that I don't do the editing, 687 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: all of that stuff that I say just gets left in. 688 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: Because that's why I don't know how you guys like 689 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: go between each other. I think I would be very 690 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: protective and I'm like, I was, just do it. It's fine. 691 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I've recently been asking Sam for rough cuts 692 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: and it literally is mostly because I'm worried about little 693 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,760 Speaker 1: things that I said. I leave it up to our Lord. 694 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: I say, you know, if I said it and George 695 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: doesn't cut it, out then so be it. Yeah, but 696 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: I think that's the thing that we also have to 697 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: talk about miscommunication. It's like, if you say something right 698 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: on a pod, it can be misconstruted in any kind 699 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: of way. So if you're that nervous, you shouldn't do 700 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 1: a part at all, I know, because that's too much 701 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: stress that you you're putting on yourself to be like, well, 702 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what this, how this came off or 703 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: this you you're you're comedically a genius. Everything you're saying 704 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 1: is going to hit. That's how you got to think 705 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: about it. I mean it's tough though, because we exist, 706 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: there's so much um. There are all these little micro communities, 707 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,959 Speaker 1: both on the Internet and in real life obviously, where 708 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: it's like sometimes you'll find yourself on the corner of 709 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: the Internet and you're like, this is the language I 710 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: don't speak, And then you're like, what if something I 711 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: said got taken out of this context and put into 712 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: like young adult literature Twitter? I yeah, I mean I 713 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: even on a different level, like when like I hear 714 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: like an old friend who messages me and I was like, 715 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: oh it listen to the podcast and I was like 716 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,919 Speaker 1: WHOA now, this has an entirely different meaning. Why would 717 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: they tell you that? Why would you think? Why why 718 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: would say that to reach out? Like, hey, I listened 719 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: to it. No, no, you quietly listen to my pod. 720 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: You tell no one. And if you truly was a fan, 721 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: you would just be post and tell people to and 722 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: leave a review and that's it, and that's the work 723 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: that needs to be done. That matters. So much work 724 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 1: needs to be done and mostly it's leaping reviews. Yeah, well, 725 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny when you hear about people. I am. 726 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the stay because io A Debris 727 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: texted me that that a friend of hers who like 728 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: is part of this group chat and everyone in the 729 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: group chat like went to ivy leagues and not work 730 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: in banking, and like whatever they I guess Io as 731 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 1: a joke when she was on our podcast said that 732 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,439 Speaker 1: bipoc is the all lives matter of acronyms. Oh god. 733 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: They were like they were like io Debris said this 734 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: in an interview, what do you guys think? And they 735 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: were like earnestly debating about whether that was the case. 736 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: And it's like something we said or something Io said. 737 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: Our podcast then made it into like a completely different environment. Yeah, 738 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: that is actually scary, and considering there's just like no 739 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: edits in my podcast that who I mean, the fact 740 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: that someone hasn't came back with receipts saying I'm just 741 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: a monster, That means I haven't made it. I wonder 742 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: the rad I'm under the radar. That's all it is. Yeah. 743 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: I I also think a podcast is a specific, specific 744 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: medium because you are just supposed to go, go, go, 745 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: go go. Like stand up, you can really control what 746 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 1: you say, who you know, who you're speaking to, you 747 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: know what kind of audience you're getting. Even sometimes before 748 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: you get there, you're like, it's going to be this 749 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: style of audience, so I can curate my words to 750 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: that and this. You're just like, I don't know, well, 751 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,439 Speaker 1: I literally don't believe like half the things I say. 752 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,439 Speaker 1: But then I have to keep going because you can't 753 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: just keep editing or it's all about the confidence. But also, Sam, 754 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: we need to stop saying or even mentioning stand up. 755 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: It is dead, it is cold. We must bury it. 756 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: It is to not come back. I mean it. Maybe 757 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: if you want to reincardnate it as something else, fine, 758 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,280 Speaker 1: but ashes to ashes, dust to dust, it is goodbye? 759 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: When are we? When are we doing stand up by guy? 760 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 1: What is it happening? There is something about it where 761 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't I can't relate. I can't relate 762 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: to the instinct of being like I'm not even talking 763 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: about indoor shows and all that controversial whatever. Just I 764 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,280 Speaker 1: can't relate to the instinct of even with outdoor shows 765 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 1: like desperately seeking, like I at least want to do 766 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,359 Speaker 1: two shows this month just because I missed stand up 767 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 1: so much. There's something about it where I'm like, if, if, 768 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 1: if we can't have normal life, I'm down to just 769 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: take a prolonged break. You know you ever be like 770 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: I miss that person, I miss my fucking X I 771 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: miss them, And then go back and you take your 772 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: tired ass to their house and it's dirtier than it 773 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: was before and just just sat a light a light 774 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 1: bulb was broken, and y'all have sex and it just 775 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 1: don't hit the same, And then you're like, Wow, I 776 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: rather wish I wish I could take this back so 777 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: I could just miss you as it when it was 778 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: good than me coming back and seeing what the funk 779 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,399 Speaker 1: it is right now? Okay, that's that's what it is. Well, 780 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: that's because I did that. I like, I was about 781 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 1: to say that, went to an indoor show and like 782 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: a month ago, a month ago, I'm on the record. 783 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: I went to an indoor show and I will say this. 784 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: I walked away and I was mad at myself. I 785 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 1: was like, why did you do that? That was not 786 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,280 Speaker 1: worth it. It It all did was make me miss more 787 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: how it used to be and not what it is now. 788 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,959 Speaker 1: It's like it left a bad taste in my mouth. 789 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: You know. It's like one thing when the people show 790 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 1: up to an indoor show, It's like, Okay, you're risking 791 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: your life for commed day. Yeah, you're not my audience. 792 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Unfortunately, that's just those are not the people 793 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to talk to, right them went to the 794 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: Capitol all right? Literally, it really is right imagine entertaining 795 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 1: first of all, taking out of the equation that you 796 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: yourself are also putting people at risk. But even if 797 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 1: you were behind the glass, you're entertaining people that all 798 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: are like some version of anti masks maskers. Yeah. Yeah. 799 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: It was actually like I'm saying to you guys, because 800 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: I know that you love you love stand up just 801 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: as much as I love it. It was a moment 802 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: where I was like, I gotta lean into whatever else 803 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: there is. I have to be good at something else, 804 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: because it's just it's not worth like what I love 805 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,839 Speaker 1: so much, leaving me in a state where I'm like, oh, 806 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: I'll never do this again. I'd rather wait it out 807 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: and see how it is afterwards than doing these little 808 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: increments of like what I thought it was supposed to 809 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: be and just scarring myself. Right. Yeah, I know, I know, 810 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: it got so real. I brought it down. I brought down. 811 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just wanted to moving forward in this year. 812 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, I love my my craft so much, but 813 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: it is so straight of me to think that, Oh yes, 814 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 1: in a whole Panini, we need to be indoors, no ventilation. 815 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 1: Only ten people can show up and ten laughs that 816 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 1: sometimes are only two. This is worth it, no math, 817 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: no sir, No guys, we can't do it. It's wrong. Yeah. 818 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:54,399 Speaker 1: I found judgmental. I found judgment I've done it. I've 819 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: done it. That's why I'm saying I've done it. I'm sure. 820 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm very scandalized that you went to an indoor show. 821 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 1: I I know, I listen. I did it twice because 822 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 1: the first time wasn't enough. Okay, you did not say 823 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: the first time that you did it twice. I was like, oh, 824 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 1: I was like, now I'm really going to tell the truth. 825 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I did it twice, and the second 826 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: time I was like, bitch, no, man, you got to 827 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,399 Speaker 1: stop because it's like you get addicted. You're like, well, 828 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna catch this next high and the next 829 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 1: highest COVID. Friend, that's what it is. You're I'm just 830 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 1: gonna go to catch covid. I'm just gonna go to 831 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: catch covid. Just one covid. That's it. Not too that 832 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:37,720 Speaker 1: sounds like a restaurant catch covid, stc catch covid, Oh 833 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: my god. I and I mostly like I mostly have 834 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,919 Speaker 1: given up on the concept of stand up. Like when 835 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 1: when everything hit, I was like, figure out videos, figure 836 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 1: out podcast, like what can you do in the now? Um? 837 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: But I have kind of been under the assumption that, like, 838 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 1: and I need to break myself of this. But I 839 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 1: am like, by April, everything's gonna be fine, and yeah, yeah, Sam. 840 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: I I was like in December, I was like, Okay, 841 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,879 Speaker 1: by my birthday, I should see some changes. But I'm 842 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: telling you because I'm also a person who got on 843 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: a plane touring the holidays. There were so many people. 844 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 1: I was so ashamed of myself. I was like, I 845 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 1: really got on this plane and I'm judging everyone. And 846 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,919 Speaker 1: one of the people there, nobody is easing up, their 847 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: foot is on the gas, and I think we're going 848 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: to be in here for a while a while in 849 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 1: this communication. Okay, yes, sorry, I brought it all the way. 850 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: You're fine. I just like I it really is. I mean, 851 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:57,799 Speaker 1: I mean, I was thinking, you know, the last show 852 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: I did before um the for the pandemic was your show. 853 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 1: But it was a week that where you weren't there. 854 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, that it was. It was Maria 855 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 1: and Amina. Um, I was in l A. Oh my gosh, 856 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: all the net. Okay, let's talk about strength communic this 857 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: communic truly. Oh oh okay, so um let's bring it 858 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: back all right. So obviously, I you know, I've dated 859 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,760 Speaker 1: many many men. I've dated more men than I have women. 860 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 1: So that's where yeah, so that's where I was. I 861 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: was on the cuss where I was like, well, maybe 862 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm just bisexual, but because women, I think, well, not women, 863 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 1: But I just think like the gay culture on my 864 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: spectrum is more about talking it out. We just stay longer. 865 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 1: We just we just stay in it, and we're like, 866 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: maybe we'll maybe we'll fix this. Oh we love to 867 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,360 Speaker 1: fix Oh my gosh. Well we've we talked about this 868 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: in a in a recent episode, which is there's a 869 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 1: great tradition of gay men ruining things and lesbians fixing them. 870 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm snapping my fingers to that. I do think communication 871 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: is sometimes being good at communication is also a curse 872 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 1: because you're like, well, I can just talk through this exactly, 873 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 1: and it's like, well, actually, maybe you can't. Maybe you 874 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,879 Speaker 1: should not try to, because yes, you can make sense 875 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: of it all. Yes you can try to, like use 876 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 1: logic and your beautiful words and buzz words and whatever. 877 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: But then it's just like, no, you just need to 878 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: like either get mad and get out or like get 879 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: mad to get over it. Get mad and get out 880 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,240 Speaker 1: or get mad or get over That is beautiful, Sam. 881 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: Can that be the title? That's a great Can we 882 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: get mad and get out or get mad and get 883 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 1: over it? I love It's so good. That is the 884 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 1: T shirt. Sam. We are in the process of working 885 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,760 Speaker 1: on March, so you work that in. It's so good, okay, 886 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 1: of But I do just very quickly to Sam's point, like, 887 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,359 Speaker 1: I so agree that I am someone who fetishizes communication 888 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,280 Speaker 1: in a way where like I will make a tiny 889 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,360 Speaker 1: thing into a big thing because I'm like, let's just 890 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 1: hash it out right now. Let's just like talk it 891 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: through right now and then we can move on. And 892 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,800 Speaker 1: the person is like, no, let's just you know, move 893 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,959 Speaker 1: on because we know we're going to be fine. Let's 894 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,360 Speaker 1: just have dinner. We don't have to literally now spend 895 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 1: two hours discussing like some small slight or some small thing. 896 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 1: But I do think Sydney, I have to say, I 897 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: do think that in me is a very lesbian impulse. 898 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,320 Speaker 1: It is. It is because we're just like, well, one, 899 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,959 Speaker 1: if you're saying, well, let's we have time to get 900 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: through like whatever we need to talk to that, for me, 901 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: I think that's avoiding. I'm like, let's let's do it now, 902 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 1: get it out the way so we can move forward 903 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: and not talk about it no more. I want to 904 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: I want to push through. Let's just get to the 905 00:53:54,160 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: other side. But I think in straight relationships, things just anger, 906 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,399 Speaker 1: they linger because they're afraid to say something. They're like, well, 907 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 1: I don't want that person to feel some type of way, 908 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: or they just don't have the vocabulary for it, unfortunately, 909 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,720 Speaker 1: and they don't know how to just verbalize the actual 910 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 1: emotions that are having. And as a as a gay person, 911 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:23,800 Speaker 1: all I have is emotions. That that is my um, 912 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 1: that is my coinage, that's my currency. Emotion, that's how 913 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 1: I pay. I pay in feelings. Many stories except that, Sidney. 914 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: You know, and I know you've gotten in trouble with 915 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 1: UM the tax authorities before, and it's because you actually, 916 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 1: absolutely it's because you actually insist on baying them with emotion. 917 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, this is a good one. So the 918 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 1: guy was like, hey, I don't want to get in 919 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 1: your business. I was like, sir, you're looking at my 920 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,840 Speaker 1: taxes from twelve years ago. You're in my fucking business. 921 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 1: It's like, how come you didn't file? Like what was 922 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:04,400 Speaker 1: going on? One? I was like depression, right, He was 923 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:09,839 Speaker 1: like healthcare. I was like depression, which is like feelings, emotions. 924 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 1: And I was like I couldn't. I couldn't do it. 925 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 1: I just could not get my ten nines together. I 926 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: have to say that the ongoing saga of your taxes 927 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: is something that I relate to so much because I 928 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 1: really am just the king of and I do think 929 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 1: talk about a straight impulse of like, you know, not 930 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 1: doing something very simple. It's just like I will I 931 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 1: recently returned something on the last day of the thirty 932 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 1: day return whatever. I love doing that is that is 933 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 1: my ship. I will not do something until they're like, um, 934 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 1: in a day. If in the day it's five o'clock, 935 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm starting at four forty five. And you know what, though, 936 00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 1: that's what makes the pandemic hard because when you don't 937 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 1: have a For instance, we said, you know, I would 938 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 1: love to like have certain things done by the end 939 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 1: of this, But when you don't know what that date is, 940 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: when you don't have a deadline, I will never begin 941 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,799 Speaker 1: to do anything. Oh I'm just supposed to like make 942 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 1: these goals and dates for myself. Are you fucking are 943 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: you here? Are you here? Are you present? I don't think. 944 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't think you know what's going on right here? 945 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,319 Speaker 1: Because how I have a I have a dry race 946 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 1: board and you know, writing down things to do. Is 947 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 1: I think it's a very I think it's a I 948 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 1: think it's non binary to have to do board is 949 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 1: non binary is and so but the part of me 950 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: that I'm like, is this depression or am I just gay? 951 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 1: I will write things down for the whole for the 952 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 1: things that like, for the whole day that I know. 953 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, there's no way I'm getting to this. It's 954 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 1: just too much. Yeah, it's magical thinking. We'd like to 955 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: pile launch it. It's just that's the only way. I 956 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 1: can only get something done if I think I can 957 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,880 Speaker 1: finish it that day. It's very hard for me to 958 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 1: think about something that will take me two days. So 959 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 1: even though I can't finish it in that day, I'll 960 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, today I'm going to write a pilot 961 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 1: and it's like, obviously you're not going to but I 962 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 1: have to believe I can finish it or else I 963 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 1: won't work on it at all. Or or a writing packet. 964 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: We love those, this podcast writing packets straight stright evil. 965 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing I would say. The straightest possible 966 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: uh term is cover letter m m oh. You want 967 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 1: to see a writing sample, go to my Facebook from 968 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen. What's the problem. I like, I 969 00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 1: have a lot of read More's there. Do you want 970 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: me to do this back it? Were? You wanna read more? Queen? 971 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 1: I love that you read more. I used to be 972 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: read more queen. Um I would say, yeah, I read more. 973 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 1: Ems I would never read more if mine was a sentence. 974 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 1: That's it. Oh you're one of those Yeah, you're no, 975 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: you're afraid, you're are my You don't want you don't 976 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 1: want people to get in, get in and get out. 977 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 1: You don't want them to do that. That's my walls up. 978 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 1: Oh okay, me too. Um wait, can I also just 979 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 1: say before the end of this podcast that yes, I 980 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 1: went to two indoor shows. I had a mask on 981 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 1: the whole time. I did not eat, I didn't do 982 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 1: I was I was trying to be as precautious as possible, 983 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,800 Speaker 1: and I was when I was on a plane, I 984 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 1: also had my mask on the whole time, and I 985 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 1: was dehydrated because I didn't drink any water or anything. 986 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,479 Speaker 1: So I know that you guys are judging me, but 987 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,160 Speaker 1: you know, don't go too hard on me. Well will 988 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 1: cut around it strategically and and it makes it. Don't edits, 989 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: We don't do edits on my pod. I'm not afraid. 990 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of the lashback. I love it. Um 991 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: put it on the pile of all of our controversial episodes. Um, 992 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 1: should we do our final segment? Let's do it? Do 993 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 1: you have one? Sam? Oh, that is such a good question. 994 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 1: Well let me explain. So Sydney, our final segment we 995 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 1: celebrate one of the crowning achievements of straight culture, which 996 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: is the radio shout out. Imagine, you know, calling into 997 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 1: Z one hundred or being at TRL kind of shouting 998 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 1: out to your boys and your girls back home. Um. 999 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 1: So we give a shout out to something that is 1000 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 1: making us happy this week in the style of a 1001 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 1: radio shoutout. And we just did one for a previous episodes, 1002 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 1: and I'm having a difficult time one. Um, but I oh, 1003 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 1: you know what, I have one. Okay, go ahead, Okay, 1004 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: what up, listeners, It's George here. I want to get 1005 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 1: a quick shout out to blood oranges. Imagine if you 1006 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 1: were an orange, but you were called a blood orange. 1007 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 1: That is so goth and so badass. I cannot think. 1008 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 1: I mean, think of all the rest of the blood strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, 1009 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 1: and then you have blood oranges. And to top it 1010 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: all off, their seasonal in the winter when it's cold 1011 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 1: and dark. Very very good branding. So I just want 1012 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 1: to say shout out to Blood Oranges. I just tried 1013 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 1: to make a blood orange olive oil cake and it 1014 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 1: did not turn out well. But I stand Blood Oranges. 1015 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 1: I support them even though they've disappointed me, and I'm 1016 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 1: going to make the rest of the ones I've brought 1017 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 1: into a Blood or in Margarita Baby who um Mine 1018 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,320 Speaker 1: is both a shoutout and a confessional, So um, here 1019 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,640 Speaker 1: I go. What's up, listeners? Um. I just want to 1020 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 1: give a huge shout out to the guy who makes 1021 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 1: the video game tutorials for the game, Sekuiro. I have 1022 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 1: been playing this game because I got a gift card 1023 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 1: to for Xbox Games and I thought it was this. 1024 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,400 Speaker 1: This would be fun. It's the hardest thing I've ever played. 1025 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 1: I can't walk ten minutes without getting killed by something. 1026 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 1: And so yes, I started watching YouTube tutorials because I 1027 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 1: refused to give up on it. And this guy I 1028 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 1: watch is so good at this game and it's crazy 1029 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 1: that I've now watched I want to say, a half 1030 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 1: hour of tutorials psychotic disgusting. I am. I hate it, 1031 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 1: and yet it's all I want to do, and it's 1032 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: all I'm gonna do as soon as I hang up 1033 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 1: this zoom call. Whooo wait, so in totally you've only 1034 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 1: watched a half hour? Well, I cut I jump around. 1035 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 1: Half hour is not that bad. The other day I 1036 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 1: watched an hour and a half. Uh, like Q and 1037 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 1: A with um like a random filmmaker Who's movie I'm 1038 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 1: never gonna watch. If you're a filmmaker, just please don't 1039 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 1: be random. That is my note to all the filmmak 1040 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 1: Thank you all. Okay, what up? To the people who 1041 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 1: are so obsessed with me also known as the listeners. 1042 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: I just want to give a great shout out to 1043 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 1: Facebook ads. Yeah, well I think, how am I on 1044 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 1: Facebook at three am? Because I'm in a bad, bad place. 1045 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,440 Speaker 1: But you know what Facebook ads do? They give me 1046 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 1: everything that I've been talking about all day. Yes, I 1047 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 1: want switch shirts. Yeah, I want lights from like a 1048 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 1: fun Boy area era. Yes, yes, give me light therapy masks, 1049 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 1: give me net creams, give me things to take out 1050 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 1: the fungus in my toe nails. Give me ads, ads, ads, 1051 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 1: and you know what, I get ads on Instagram. But 1052 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,880 Speaker 1: I don't trust those ads. Oh no, no, no, those 1053 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 1: are not for girls like me. I'm a different girl. 1054 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 1: I get my ads from Facebook, and you know, I've 1055 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 1: got all of my credit card and social Security security 1056 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,439 Speaker 1: information into the Facebook app and then I order yes, 1057 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 1: I press sin, and I wait to to ten of 1058 01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 1: weeks to receive that product. And I'm so loving it 1059 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 1: because yeah, I get neck cram for somebody who's eighty 1060 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 1: five years old. But you know, what was a hell 1061 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 1: of a year and I feel like I'm jet inside. 1062 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, Wow, I have to say, Sydney, you saying 1063 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm not like other girls. I get my ads on 1064 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 1: Facebook maybe one of the best quotes we've ever had 1065 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 1: on I mean, that was really you understood the form 1066 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 1: so well. I just want to say, that's merch. I'm 1067 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: not like other girls. I get my ads on Facebook. 1068 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: This has been so much fun. I miss you guys. 1069 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that we ended up. I was like, 1070 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 1: we really were on the verge of being like, should 1071 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 1: we rescouted? It could we were both hired too, But 1072 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 1: I feel like that was so good freaking heat, and 1073 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 1: I just I want to kiss your faces and hugs 1074 01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 1: so much, and I can't think of saying the word 1075 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 1: Rando without like Sam Taggart Rando. That's thank you God. Well, 1076 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 1: this has been a true blast. You're doing it. It's 1077 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 1: been wonderful to see you and talk. Yeah. And you know, 1078 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 1: if you don't think that I'm a terrible anti masker 1079 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:13,360 Speaker 1: who um hates straight people, please follow me, follow me, 1080 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 1: leave me messages, and send me your favorite Facebook ad 1081 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 1: because that's your favorite Facebook aunt. Okay, bye bye