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Speaker 1: Man, what's hand him?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: You got Marshaw Basemall Lynch.

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Speaker 3: Doug Hendrickson and Gavin Newsome and you're listening to politics.

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Speaker 1: You're known to be you're known.

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Speaker 2: To be.

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Speaker 4: Well, Marshaun, I just Gavin. It was funny.

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Speaker 2: I uh, the last couple of days on the heels

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Speaker 2: of our NAL talk, I was talking to some people

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Speaker 2: and the new scam right now is going on is

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Speaker 2: these guys, these companies are going after these high school

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Speaker 2: and college kids and they're going in with, you know, saying, here,

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Speaker 2: give us eighteen to twenty percent of your future earnings

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Speaker 2: for lifetime, okay, future earnings for now, depending on where

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Speaker 2: they're at.

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Speaker 4: If it's like a five star high school kid or four.

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Speaker 1: Stars, why do that even sound appealing?

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Speaker 4: We'll be able telling you.

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Speaker 2: So you're so a lot of the companies are going

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Speaker 2: to a kid, let's say a junior in high school

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Speaker 2: who's a four star player, and they're saying, here's seven

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Speaker 2: hundred fift thousand dollars. Okay, but so take the money,

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Speaker 2: and then we're going to take eighteen percent of your

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Speaker 2: future NFL, NBA baseball earnings, whatever it may be. And

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Speaker 2: so you know, if the guy doesn't make it, the

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Speaker 2: guy gets to keep seven to fifty. But these guys

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Speaker 2: now are a lot of them are making it, and so

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Speaker 2: now they're giving away eighteen percent off the gross every

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Speaker 2: single year to these companies.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you, the only thing gross about it is

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Speaker 3: that it's legal. That should not even be legal. They've

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Speaker 3: been By the way, there's versions of that DOUG that

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Speaker 3: are already happening, with people paying for your college education

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Speaker 3: so that I'll pay for all your tuition if you

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Speaker 3: give me a percentage of your income going for it,

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Speaker 3: and they started to monetize you get these little venture

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Speaker 3: capital funds that have been put together to take advantage

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Speaker 3: of it. I think it should be flat out illegal.

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Speaker 3: No one in their right mind would do that.

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Speaker 1: See, that's why you need it, That's why I would.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: Fuck it's fucked up, because it's like you throw seven

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Speaker 5: hundred and fifty in front the motherfucker who ain't never seen.

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Speaker 1: A dollar is up.

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Speaker 5: Everything you said after seven fifty don't even all you

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Speaker 5: heard was seven fifty, and then everything else is like well, wow, wow, wow.

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Speaker 5: I'm Charlie Brown on that motherfucker. I don't hear none

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Speaker 5: of that ship. But the thing is, that's where the

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Speaker 5: where we was talking about, that's where the education and

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Speaker 5: all that shit come from.

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Speaker 1: Like is lacking. It's lacking, Doug, if you would have.

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Speaker 5: Told you the eighteen percent, probably would have popped show

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Speaker 5: as no.

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Speaker 2: But but this is this is I don't know that name,

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Speaker 2: marsh Oh, I know, but there but there's a there's

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Speaker 2: an NBA, there's a there's a Major League Baseball All

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Speaker 2: star from Venezuela who at fourteen years old was offered

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Speaker 2: the same thing. And this guy just signed a three

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Speaker 2: hundred million dollar contract and and all the and he

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Speaker 2: fired the agents and da DA. But all these gangs

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Speaker 2: and these people associated with this group in Venezuela or

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Speaker 2: or uh you know, somewhere down there are.

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Speaker 4: After this guy.

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Speaker 2: And this guy's had like the death threats and curity

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Speaker 2: and they're they're they're saying, no, this is legit, rock

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Speaker 2: solid deal.

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Speaker 4: They're coming after this guy.

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Speaker 1: Is that who they're looking for? And in Denver?

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Speaker 4: I think so, yeah, they looking for him.

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Speaker 1: That's the dude that they looking for in Denver.

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Speaker 4: In the apartment complex.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's but they be somewhere.

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Speaker 1: So that's the Venezuela's coming over there. What the all right?

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Speaker 1: Well that's deep.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Hey, you guys that fly around in

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Speaker 3: these fancy private planes, you'll appreciate this. The president of

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Speaker 3: Venezuela's playing today was taken by the United States government.

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Speaker 3: It was the Dominican Republic, and we seized President Meduro's

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Speaker 3: taken his asset. It's literally the president.

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Speaker 1: He was trying to get over here.

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Speaker 5: Any he doesn't housing feeding oh man.

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Speaker 1: Oh no.

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Speaker 3: This is the president, by the way, who just quote

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Speaker 3: unquote won his re election under dubious and questionable circumstances.

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Speaker 3: But let me talk about dubious and questionable. It should

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Speaker 3: be illegal to loan sharks, Doug. This is BS, some

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Speaker 3: fourteen year old kids selling his soul to the future.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's flat out that's that is correct.

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Speaker 5: It sounds like they're taking the record company. The record

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Speaker 5: company h approach to it them three sixty deals, That's

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Speaker 5: what it sounded like to me.

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Speaker 1: But fuck no, you don't know, man, motherfucker. And it's crazy.

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Speaker 5: Because at a at a man at a fucking uh

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Speaker 5: pivotal point right now, like with all of this information

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Speaker 5: that's just being overloaded to your phone, to your devices,

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Speaker 5: everything is like, okay, you you would think that more

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Speaker 5: going on, But it's like the more information that's out

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Speaker 5: there that should just get clutter and motherfuckers keep coming

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Speaker 5: up with fucking.

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Speaker 1: Silly ass But here's what they're sold, motherfuckers.

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Speaker 4: Bro here's what they're saying.

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Speaker 2: They're making these churches up, Gavin, and they're saying, Okay,

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Speaker 2: if we give a fourteen year old seven and fifty

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Speaker 2: gram at ten percent interest for thirty forty years, here's

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Speaker 2: the here's the spreadshirt, the bell cow of of if

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Speaker 2: that's the very thing goes right correct. If the market

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Speaker 2: goes ten percent and everything goes, it goes according to plan,

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Speaker 2: but rarely it does, as we know, you know, but

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Speaker 2: at some point you're gonna if it all goes well,

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Speaker 2: you clipse those earnings and now you pay these people

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Speaker 2: off and you're still in the whole eighteen twenty percent

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Speaker 2: at you know, mamagine morre Sean being in a heyday

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Speaker 2: of your career and you have ten twelve years left

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Speaker 2: in your career and you're right in eighteen twenty percent.

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Speaker 2: Plus you're paying your agent fee plus you got your

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Speaker 2: financial advisor fee, plus you've got maybe a business manager fee.

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Speaker 4: Now you're in the whole.

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Speaker 2: You know, shit, you know, thirty five, thirty six percent

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Speaker 2: before you even get your taxes.

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Speaker 4: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: You ain't even talked on your taxas.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not a good thing.

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Speaker 5: One has Ooh shit, I don't know, man, it's some

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Speaker 5: crazy shit.

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Speaker 1: But god damn, even though.

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Speaker 5: You yeah, it's a sick ass time right now, it's

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Speaker 5: a sick ass time.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: Though this stuff's been going on a long time.

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Speaker 1: It's just not being regulated.

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Speaker 3: But people are going to college kids saying we'll pay

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Speaker 3: their doing for college to paint off the high cost

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Speaker 3: of tuition. I mean, but you've seen this for decades

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Speaker 3: and decades. People have been trying to do contracts as

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Speaker 3: in Marshawn. You're spot on in the music industry, so

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Speaker 3: there's some precedent. But look, when you're fourteen years old,

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Speaker 3: you're sixteen years old, you're eighteen years old, you're a kid.

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Speaker 3: It goes back to what Marshawn was saying, no financial literacy,

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Speaker 3: no capacity to have any independent analysis. You're desperate, you forget.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I love what you said, Marshaun. It after

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Speaker 3: here seven and fifty thousand, you didn't hear a damn thing.

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Speaker 3: It was all garbled. After that, it was all blah blah,

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Speaker 3: blah blah blah. You just say, nobody where to sign it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's right, man, That ain't right. You've

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Speaker 3: got to regulate that, and we're not regulating that. And

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Speaker 3: now you've got a guys not only not regulating that.

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Speaker 3: Your point is got folks try to take his life.

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Speaker 2: Well, So, Gavin Marshawn, I'm not sure if you know

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Speaker 2: the new rules, but it just got to pass next

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Speaker 2: August to twenty five. The two prominent divisions SEC and

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Speaker 2: the Big ten okay, with the revenue sharing, are going

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Speaker 2: to have I think it's thirty three million dollars per

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Speaker 2: athletic department. So put that in perspective, each one of

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Speaker 2: those football programs will have about twenty four million dollars okay,

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Speaker 2: that they'll have to give every single year to the

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Speaker 2: football team. So twenty four million dollars will go now

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Speaker 2: to the one hundred players on.

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Speaker 1: Michigan athletic department.

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Speaker 2: No, well, the athletic department gets x amount, but then

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Speaker 2: they're going to give the football the ball of it,

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Speaker 2: of it. So now these NFL's college teams are hiring

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Speaker 5: And now, I mean, if you think about it, you

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Speaker 5: League for you know, basketball, right and football? But I mean,

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Speaker 5: how how is that ship work? Like with baseball because

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Speaker 5: go to all those feeder school not feeder schools, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they got a double A yeah all of that right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they still mean obviously college ball, same thing,

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Speaker 3: Doug's point is spot on, and I mean, Doug, this

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Speaker 3: be I keep saying, sound like the politicians. We need

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Speaker 3: to regulate this, need to regulate that. But this whole

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Speaker 3: system has got to be tamed because you're now talking

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Speaker 2: Well also too, there's no more walk ons now. So

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Speaker 2: for example, in football mar Show member Cal, you have

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Speaker 2: twenty walk ons. The walk ons now eliminated, So now

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Speaker 2: there's one hundred players in the team. All one hundred

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Speaker 2: players get full of scholarships. There's no more walk on.

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Speaker 2: So if you're a guy that you know has got

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Speaker 2: a you know, a good player wants to go to Cal,

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Speaker 2: wants to go somewhere, but it's just not good enough.

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Speaker 2: Normally there'll be fifteen twenty walk ons on the team.

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Speaker 2: They're not allowing walk ons.

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Speaker 1: Anymore, so they're going to have to take the JC route.

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Speaker 4: You gotta go JC or a smaller school.

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Speaker 2: But you can't if your dream is to be rudy

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Speaker 2: like a notre name and walked on and fought on

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Speaker 4: There's no more Rudies next August. That's done.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, because shit, when you open, when you

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Speaker 5: can go on that portal and shit, go get some

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Speaker 5: of the cream of the crop. It's like, shit, you

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Speaker 5: gotta make space for that too, Like oh shit, it's

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Speaker 5: like the free agency and that motherfucker.

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Speaker 3: It is like for you, by the way, Marshall, we

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Speaker 3: never got clarity. I mean you, I mean, you missed

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Speaker 3: all this, but no, bs, I mean how you would

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Speaker 1: And I honestly, yeah, what happened.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what if if you were running around with

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Speaker 5: Hell no, they would come to you like did you

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Speaker 5: go to study hall. Hey, we didn't get you.

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Speaker 5: mean to to bring that spotlight to our school for sports,

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Speaker 5: feel me, I'll get up to the camp I mean

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Speaker 5: We're finna get on like nah, he said he was

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Speaker 5: Feel me, We get back down here. That boy ain't

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Speaker 1: But it was good that.

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Speaker 5: it's just like it it's so wide open, man. And

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Speaker 5: And the biggest thing to me is like I just

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Speaker 5: And it's like that price tag that they that they

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Speaker 5: I mean, slow progress you feel me though, for me

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Speaker 1: Best, Like you know what I mean. I ain't never

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Speaker 3: By the way, there reminds me Doug that all said,

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Speaker 4: Longer another marshaw.

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Speaker 3: Guys, these guys know, but they try to get.

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Speaker 4: Get what they one more time.

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Speaker 3: If you want to eat more, eat less so you

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Speaker 3: that's what financial literacy and investment is all about. That's

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Speaker 3: what That's what financial literacy is all about. That's what

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Speaker 3: it's hard to hard to have that when you're sixteen,

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Speaker 3: seventeen years old. One thing, though, I will say, go cow,

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Speaker 3: I appreciate, I appreciate Marshaan saying student athlete. I don't

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Speaker 4: Those words anyway.

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Speaker 1: It ain't student.

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Speaker 3: Damn athlete anymore. But those are the good old days.

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