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Speaker 1: This is twenty four a weekly highlight reel from the

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.

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Speaker 2: Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden is out. You may applaud for mister Clay Travis.

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Speaker 3: You may applaud he is the winner of a stake,

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Speaker 3: a very expensive, overpriced We'll get into those details later.

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Speaker 3: We actually have so much news that we can extend

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Speaker 3: Clay's gloating over the course of the program because we

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Speaker 3: have a bunch of things that we have to get

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Speaker 3: to today. Secret Service Director up on Capitol Hill a

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Speaker 3: total mess, not actually giving any answers. We have so

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Speaker 3: much here, but just to put all this into the

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Speaker 3: proper context, we had a presidential In terms of the

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Speaker 3: news this month, how much news there is usually the

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Speaker 3: summer for political news is pretty minimal, right. You know,

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Speaker 3: a lot of people DC's ago in August, even an

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Speaker 3: election year, it tends to settle down a little bit.

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Speaker 3: They have the conventions, nobody really cares the remembers, and

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Speaker 3: then you get into the big stuff in the fall.

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Speaker 3: This month has been crazy. We had a presidential assassination

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Speaker 3: attempt against President Trump or a presidential candidate assassination attempt.

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Speaker 3: He was hit. I keep reminding people say, wow, they

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Speaker 3: almost shot President Trump. No, they shot him, he just

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Speaker 3: was okay. So that was not this most recent weekend.

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Speaker 3: The weekend before. Then, on this weekend, after weeks and

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Speaker 3: weeks of Joe Biden his team saying he's staying in,

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Speaker 3: He's staying in, suddenly a tweet comes out on x

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Speaker 3: Elon Musk's platform, a private platform. Mind you, isn't this

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Speaker 3: so interesting? It's almost like a Facebook post was the

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Speaker 3: way we found out about this. Joe Biden has dropped out,

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Speaker 3: has officially endorsed Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And we'll get into all of of the machinations around this.

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Speaker 3: And there's so much here, and I know everyone's all

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Speaker 3: very fired up, and I'm sorry for the residents of

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Speaker 3: Buck Island. We did get hit by a last second

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Speaker 3: tsunami and there are no structures left standing, and in fact,

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Speaker 3: we are now a wreckage like a scuba site only

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Speaker 3: so you can go visit us underwater.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I've always thought Atlantis, We're the new Atlantis. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Clai Clay's gonna be grinning a lot today. And you

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Speaker 3: know what earned it. We've been talking about this for

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Speaker 3: two years. There's been some evolution here as to what

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Speaker 3: we thought would happen, respectively, what Clay thought, what I thought.

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Speaker 3: This year, I've been saying, if it's not Biden, it

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Speaker 3: will be Harris. But I've always thought, and I will

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Speaker 3: stick to this, that Biden would manage to push this

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Speaker 3: all the way through. The debate was completely disastrous for him,

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Speaker 3: more disastrous than I thought it would be, so I

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Speaker 3: didn't have that data point to work with, but I

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Speaker 3: figured they're still gonna They're still gonna be able to

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Speaker 3: rally around him enough that they he's their best choice. Clay,

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Speaker 3: we got a million things to dive into here. The

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Speaker 3: big thing, obviously Biden out. All eyes turned to Kamala.

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Speaker 3: Fifty million dollars of small donation, small dollar donors raised

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Speaker 3: in one day, they say, the biggest day of fundraising,

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Speaker 3: you know, in years for Kamala Harris. All the editorials now,

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Speaker 3: the shaping of the narrative, I mean, they're right in this.

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Speaker 3: They're bringing in the interns to write these editorials. They're

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Speaker 3: just trying to churn out as much nonsense as they can.

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Speaker 3: Here's where I am on this Clay. This is terrible

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Speaker 3: for the Democrats what's going on right now.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they can't pull something off, and

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Speaker 3: there's crazy last minute possibilities, but I do not see

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Speaker 3: a world in which Kamala Harris, one of the most

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Speaker 3: untalented politicians, a DEI vice president, is able to go

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Speaker 3: up against not just a strong Republican but Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: with the biggest wind at his back and the most

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Speaker 3: that the Demo and this is why I didn't see

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Speaker 3: this coming. I think it's it's worse than a crime,

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Speaker 3: it's a blunder. I think what they have done is madness,

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Speaker 3: and it's because they've panicked and they went to war

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Speaker 2: I think there are two big questions that are out

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Speaker 2: will this be contested. Right now, it looks like Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris is basically going to get the nomination without think

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Speaker 2: her to be president. In her entire political career, We've

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Speaker 2: never seen anything like this. I mean, that is truly extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: Remember she dropped out in twenty twenty before the voting started.

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Speaker 2: Democrats overwhelmingly rejected her in the twenty twenty race, and

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Speaker 2: I bet we agree on this. Do you think if

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Speaker 2: Biden had dropped out before the primaries and Kamala had run,

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Speaker 2: do you think she would have won an open primary

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Speaker 2: as the Democrat nominee? I do not. Do you think

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Speaker 2: Kamala wins this nomination?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: And this is the It's almost like the super delegates

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Speaker 3: that remember they rig the system for Hillary over Bernie

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Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen. This is, in essence a Democrat machine,

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Speaker 3: like a super delegate election. They're just deciding that this

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Speaker 3: is who the person will be. I know they're going

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Speaker 3: to say, oh, well, at the convention, the delegates will

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Speaker 3: have to Yeah, but they had a whole prime They

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Speaker 3: just threw out fourteen million votes for Joe Biden. Okay, yes,

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Speaker 3: they just said those these are the word defending democracy.

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Speaker 3: They just said the fourteen million votes that Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: had and all the stuff we said about Joe Biden's fine,

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Speaker 3: he's going to have a grade four more years and everything.

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Speaker 3: They have wiped that away. They've pretended like it never happened.

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Speaker 3: And the other part of this, there's so many layers here, Clay,

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden is not fit to be president right now.

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Speaker 2: If he's not well, that's my second question. That's okay,

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Speaker 2: it will will it be contested? Second one is, and

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Speaker 2: the gambling markets basically have it right now, and they've

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Speaker 2: been very predictive in terms of you and me and

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Speaker 2: everybody else being able to bet. They have it at

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Speaker 2: fifty to fifty. Whether he's going to finish his term,

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Speaker 2: and my question on whether he finishes his term obviously

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Speaker 2: he could die, right and I hate to say that,

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Speaker 2: but he put out this statement on X. It's super weird.

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Speaker 2: We haven't seen him. Kamala Harris just showed up at

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Speaker 2: the White House. I know supposedly he's got COVID, but

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Speaker 2: that's basically a cold. You're telling me. They couldn't wheel

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Speaker 2: take a video of all this for historical purpose. Very strange.

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Speaker 2: And that's why let's presume that he doesn't die, which

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Speaker 2: I can't believe. We have to say that that is,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't just die because of the he's got different

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Speaker 2: cause I can see it cutting both ways, by which

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Speaker 2: becomes the first woman, first minority woman to be president,

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Speaker 2: and it gives her more of a stamp of authority

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Speaker 2: over the next several months. I'm curious how you would

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Speaker 3: I think that they want to give the illusion because

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Speaker 3: Democrats it's so central to their sense of their party.

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Speaker 3: They're like, we're we're all about defending democracy. They want

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Speaker 3: to give the illusion that Kamala is a choice, but

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Speaker 3: Kamala's foisted on them. Kamala is a is. The pick

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Speaker 3: it's it should be untenable for Biden to stay in

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris should take over as the president, and that

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Speaker 3: I think that would benefit her in the long run,

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Speaker 3: because the fact that Biden isn't resigning and is staying

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Speaker 3: a in essence, an insult at Kamala Harris too. Write

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Speaker 3: you said you picked this person because she's ready to

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Speaker 3: take over. You clearly have You are clearly Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: not at your best. He has admitted that you are

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Speaker 3: not game Joe Biden, whatever that used to mean. So

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna let Kamala Harris take over in the situation,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna ride it out to the end, I mean,

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Speaker 3: just pardon Hunter and get it over with, right, I mean, like,

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Speaker 3: what are we really talking about here. He's not gonna

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Speaker 3: sign any real legislation. He just wants to stay in

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Speaker 3: the game longer, and I think try to negotiate more stuff,

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Speaker 3: more goodies for the Bidens on his way out. I

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Speaker 3: am really curious and I feel very strongly about this

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Speaker 3: part of the Clay Biden didn't want to go, and

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Speaker 3: Biden wasn't going all right. Yes, they forced him. They

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Speaker 3: straight up they made him an offer he can't refuse.

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Speaker 3: And this isn't the first time. This was the third

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Speaker 3: all out media push New York Times, everybody, He's got

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Speaker 3: The first two after the disastrous debate, Biden says, I'm staying.

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Speaker 3: Deal with it. I'm the nominee. I won deal with it.

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Speaker 3: I'm the president. That this is not the plan, Okay,

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Speaker 3: the plan is not to drag this out because time

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Speaker 3: is not on the side of Biden, of Kamala and

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Speaker 3: the Democrats right now. I mean they're scrambling to figure

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Speaker 3: it was just the polls now, because I still believe Biden.

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Speaker 3: If you really look at the data, Biden's a better

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Speaker 3: candidate than Kamala against Donald Trump. And I know that

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Speaker 3: sounds insane, but that's clearly what Biden believed up until

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Speaker 3: we have an election that is vaguely free and fair,

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Speaker 3: there's just no way that Kamala Harris wins this election.

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Speaker 3: I think they've almost seeded this whole thing. Now they're

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Speaker 3: gonna try to cheat, They're gonna kick and scream, they

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Speaker 3: gonna have a lot of money to our media. I know

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Speaker 3: all of that, but really, Kamala Harris wins in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada. George,

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Speaker 3: absolutely not. There's no way she wins in those states

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Speaker 3: based on the numbers that we already see for Trumps.

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Speaker 3: It's just not feasible unless they cheat beyond our wildness imagination.

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Speaker 2: My theory boy is, and I agree with you. I

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Speaker 2: think this is desperation, But I do think that the Biden.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when you watched him on Friday, the last

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Speaker 2: even try to get into the presidential limo. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he legitimately looks like with every step that he was

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Speaker 2: taking that he might die between the steps. And I

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Speaker 2: hate to say that, I'm anti death. I don't want

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Speaker 2: anybody to die. I don't feel confident that he's going

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Speaker 2: to be alive on inauguration day. I mean, I can't

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Speaker 2: he's got six months left to live.

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Speaker 3: Democrats correct, because they'll come out and tell you the truth.

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Speaker 2: That's right. You need a beat down because then everybody

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Speaker 1: Then you're listening to twenty four the year of impact

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Speaker 3: Feels a bit like the presidential election has just finally

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Speaker 3: It wasn't long ago that Kamala Harris was considered a

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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris is amazing, Kamala Harris, this is the politician

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Speaker 4: we've been waiting for. We knew they would do it,

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Speaker 3: They'll do anything for power. But it is a remarkable moment.

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Speaker 3: Kamala is an unimpressive person in every respect, but that

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean the Democrats won't find some way. Please stop

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Speaker 3: sending the emails about how they're going to cheat. I

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Speaker 3: know the Democrats are evil and we'll do things that

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Speaker 2: Get away with it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't need reminders.

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Speaker 2: We know, we know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I just want to have like a

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Speaker 2: You are nighilistically destroying any competition when you say, but

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Speaker 3: Let's look at what they're gonna do with Kamala as

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Speaker 3: if they cheat and they win, she gets to call

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Speaker 3: It is possible, my friends, Okay, it is possible to

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Speaker 3: it's got a little fire off about that because I

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Speaker 2: I think that's super important. And we've been saying on

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Speaker 2: If you are desperately afraid of that, volunteer your time

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Speaker 2: and we'll get it for you again. But you can

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Speaker 3: from Democrats in the process, guess what we win. Okay,

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Speaker 3: it can happen. It will happen if we stay focused.

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Speaker 3: So I want everyone to just be mobilized and motivated

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Speaker 3: in this same vein. Now, with all of that said,

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris is the most far left wing senator we

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Speaker 3: have faced in a presidential race since Obama. And in

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Speaker 3: some ways you could say maybe Ever. I think Ever

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Speaker 3: is probably the right designation because Bernie Sanders never made

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Speaker 3: it onto a presidential ticket, he never actually was the nominee.

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Speaker 3: So Kamala Harris is the most far left wing senator

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Speaker 3: I think Clay we've had candidate we've had. And here's

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Speaker 3: what I see. That was fantastic. Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: His team put this out. Now, this is to tie

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Speaker 3: Bob Casey, Senator Casey and Clays, and it's so annoying.

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Speaker 3: In all these tough states, it's the same game from

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Speaker 3: Democrats all the time. When it comes time for votes,

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Speaker 3: they're not really Democrats, they're something else.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: Of course, I'm a maverick. I go my own way.

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Speaker 3: And then for four years or six years or two years,

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Speaker 3: you know, whatever they all they do is go along

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Speaker 3: with Pelosi. All they do is go along with Schumer

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Speaker 3: on everything all the time. It's pathetic, it's dishonest. But

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Speaker 3: this is the only Democrats can win elections. That's what

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Speaker 3: Bob Casey's trying to pull here.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know, I'm about Schumer's lack.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for myself. Yeah. Sure, McCormick's team nailed

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Speaker 3: this in Pennsylvania. This is about Kamala Harris. It starts

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Speaker 3: with Senator Casey, but then it goes into Kamala. Listen

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Speaker 3: to this one play for.

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Speaker 5: Kamala Harris is inspiring and very capable. The more people

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Speaker 5: get to know her, they're going to be particularly impressed

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Speaker 5: by her ability.

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Speaker 4: A non partisan GUV Track has rated you as the

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Speaker 4: most liberal senator.

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Speaker 6: I am prepared to get rid of the filibuster to

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Speaker 6: pass a new deal. There's no question I'm in favor

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Speaker 6: of banning TRACK.

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Speaker 1: Would you ban optional drilling?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 7: What is the solution for voters in the fossil fuel industry?

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Speaker 6: Giving the workers an ability to transition. We're not going

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Speaker 6: to treat people who are undocumented across the borders criminals.

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Speaker 6: That's correct.

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Speaker 3: Raise your head if you think it should be a

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Speaker 3: civil effects rather than a crime across the border without documentation.

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Speaker 6: Abolish ice, Yeah, is that a position you agree with,

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Speaker 6: and we need to probably think about starting from scratch outdated.

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Speaker 6: It is wrong headed thinking to think that the only

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Speaker 6: way you're going to get communities to be safe is

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Speaker 6: to put more police officers.

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Speaker 1: On the street.

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Speaker 3: Like, do you support changing the dietary guidance?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the food parent What for people he

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Speaker 2: has to reduce red meat specifically, yes.

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Speaker 3: People who are convicted in prison, like the Boston Marathon,

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Speaker 3: bombers on death row, people who are convicted of sexual assault, they.

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Speaker 5: Should be able to vote.

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Speaker 6: I think we should have that conversation. We have to

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Speaker 6: have a buyback program, and I support a mandatory buyback program.

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Speaker 3: So for people out there who like their insurance, they

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Speaker 3: don't get to keep it.

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Speaker 6: Let's eliminate all of that. Let's move on. I'm opposed

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Speaker 6: to any policy that would denying any human being public

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Speaker 6: health period.

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Speaker 5: The more people get to know her, they're going to

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Speaker 5: be particularly impressed by her ability.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I love the cackle because it's unsettling.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's unsettling, and you could say that that's

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Speaker 3: not fair. That's just how she laughs, but it just

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Speaker 3: sort of it's not a clay. The policy she lays

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Speaker 3: down here, don't put more cops on the street. That

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Speaker 3: won't make people safer. Give free healthcare to illegals. All

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Speaker 3: ten million that have come in under Biden, for example,

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Speaker 3: plus the millions were already here. Ban fracking. I don't

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Speaker 3: even think she knows more than half of our oil

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Speaker 3: comes from fracking procedures right in our processes right now.

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Speaker 3: She's a lunatic. I mean, her policies are insane.

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Speaker 2: She hasn't been vetted. And this is to me where

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Speaker 2: Republicans really have an opportunity to go after her. She

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Speaker 2: dodged scrutiny. I think it was a three part reason

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Speaker 2: why she scrutiny. One, the twenty twenty election was really

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Speaker 2: about Trump. They hid Biden in his basement and they

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Speaker 2: tried to convince you that Trump was Hitler and you

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Speaker 2: were all going to die of COVID. That's what they did.

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Speaker 2: And the Biden was Grandpa Joe, and he would solve everything,

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Speaker 2: and he would make America normal again and obviously bring

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Speaker 2: decency to the country, put the adults back in charge.

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Speaker 2: That has failed. Then also COVID, there was such an

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Speaker 2: omnipresent story of COVID. And then fear of BLM as

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Speaker 2: a result. Remember, Kamala Harris was uniformly rejected by Democrat

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Speaker 2: voters in the twenty twenty primary. If they had had

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Speaker 2: a primary in twenty twenty four, if Joe Biden had

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Speaker 2: done what he should have done and announced sometime in

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Speaker 2: the summer ish of twenty twenty three that he wasn't

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Speaker 2: going to run for reelection, there would have been a

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Speaker 2: robust Democrat primary, and buck I think there's almost no

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Speaker 2: chance that Kamala Harris would have been the nominee. Democrats

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Speaker 2: would not have picked her. Now they are trying to

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Speaker 2: gaslight you and make you convinced, oh, hey, she's an

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Speaker 2: amazing candidate. She is Nelson Mandela, She's Martin Luther King Junior.

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Speaker 2: She is Barack Obama with none of the negatives. All

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Speaker 2: of these attempts, I think are going to fail. If

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Speaker 2: Republicans do a good job of actually putting her under

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Speaker 2: the microscope and making people aware of what she's actually

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Speaker 2: advocated for in the past and why she failed to

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Speaker 2: move Democrats.

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Speaker 3: We're going to go into more of these policies, and

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Speaker 3: we're also going to look at how they're going to

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Speaker 3: try to shut down criticism of Commily. You're already seeing this.

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Speaker 3: To even use DEI now to talk about de I

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Speaker 3: and Kamala is racist. This is the new thing is

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Speaker 3: DEI is not something you're allowed to bring up in

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Speaker 3: the context of a woman whose ethnicity has been along

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Speaker 3: with her gender, but the two of them together really

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Speaker 3: her primary political asset for a long time. Okay, oh,

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Speaker 3: she's breaking glass ceilings. Oh look at this. You know

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Speaker 3: she's she's the first in this role or that role.

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Speaker 3: And now they're saying you can't talk about it. So

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Speaker 3: we want to discuss that as well. Because they're the

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Speaker 3: corporate media, they're gonna try very hard to shut people

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Speaker 3: down for bringing up the fact that, look, if you're

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Speaker 3: going to change standards and you're going to elevate somebody

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Speaker 3: based upon superficial characteristics, we're allowed to say this person

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Speaker 3: was elevated for superficial characteristics, not their you know, their

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Speaker 3: their skills, their brain power, their acumen or whatever, just

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Speaker 3: they fit into the DEI category. So what we're going

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Speaker 3: to see more of that and we'll discuss how they're

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Speaker 3: going to try to shut down that criticism here in

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Speaker 3: just a moment. Also, want to take your calls eight

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Speaker 3: hundred two eighty two to eight eight too. I just

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Speaker 3: want to say, remember this, they made a dementia pation

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Speaker 3: president for four years now. We all, even they Democrats

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Speaker 3: know that now. I mean, think about what they pulled

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Speaker 3: off this guy. They can say he was much better

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Speaker 3: four years ago. He was nominally better four years ago.

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Speaker 3: He's been the same the whole time. We all know it.

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Speaker 3: They can make a dementia pation president. They can make

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Speaker 3: anybody president. Don't forget it. So we are not sleeping here.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to get caught napping, all right. We're

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Speaker 3: aware that this is a challenge, and I think it's

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Speaker 3: one that Trump and the Republicans and the conservatives in

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Speaker 3: this country can rise to.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in

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Speaker 1: Politics with Clay.

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Speaker 2: Travis end buck Sexton. I sat and I watched. I

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Speaker 2: had low expectations of Joe Biden's address from the Oval Office.

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Speaker 2: He managed to not reach my low expectations. This was

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Speaker 2: a really another poor speech. He couldn't really read it

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Speaker 2: off the teleprompter. And I told you this, I think

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Speaker 2: we have cut three before Joe Biden dropped out. Buck

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Speaker 2: We had a conversation, and I said, hey, here's how

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Speaker 2: we'll go. He'll drop out, and all of the media

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Speaker 2: will immediately compare him to George Washington, because like Washington,

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Speaker 2: they'll say he gave up power when he didn't have to.

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Speaker 2: We all know it's a lie. Here is cut three,

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Speaker 2: me telling you what happened, followed by our favorite stars

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Speaker 2: of left wing media doing exactly what I told you

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Speaker 2: they would. Listen, they're going to try to turn Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden into George Washington. They're going to say, never have

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Speaker 2: we seen a more selfless leader. He acknowledged that the

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Speaker 2: country is more important than him.

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Speaker 5: This act.

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Speaker 3: What's Joe Biden in league with the history's most selfless

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Speaker 3: leaders Roman General Cincinnatus, the father of our country, George Washington.

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Speaker 2: This was selfless. This was selfless on a level. I

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Speaker 2: think that's important in a way.

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Speaker 3: That we talk about George Washington being selfless.

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Speaker 7: George Washington and Joe Biden shared that same reason. George

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Speaker 7: Washington also showed this country how to step down and

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Speaker 7: pass the baton.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Biden is exactly like Washington, but

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Speaker 1: I do think the act of being able to step

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Speaker 1: away from that power.

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Speaker 7: George Washington in seventeen ninety six walked away from a

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Speaker 7: third term, saying, the essence of democracy is that in

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Speaker 7: a democracy, a leader gives up power even when he

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Speaker 7: does does not have to.

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Speaker 2: All right, Buck, it's it was obvious what they were

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Speaker 2: going to do. Biden, adds George Washington, what did you

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Speaker 2: think of the address? And I know you watched your

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Speaker 2: buddy Joe Scarborough this morning. Oh yes, did the shamelessness

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Speaker 2: of his obsequiousness there you go actually even stun you

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Speaker 2: in the result.

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Speaker 3: It was well, let me before I get too hot

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Speaker 3: and bothered over Morning Joe, which is definitely gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: I was watching it this I really it is high comedy.

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Speaker 3: If you live in reality, Morning Joe, there's nothing funnier

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Speaker 3: on television. I'm it's just the truth. There's nothing more.

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Speaker 3: It's also horrifying because you're like, this is people watch

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Speaker 3: this and think this is reality. But it is funny

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Speaker 3: if you if you're somebody who can see what's really

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Speaker 3: going on. But just with the Biden speech, I saw

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Speaker 3: the speech and the narrative, which you know you called.

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Speaker 3: But I've be honest with you, I think this was

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Speaker 3: clearly the way they were gonna go. Right, The narrative

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Speaker 3: of Joe Biden as selfless is I don't know what

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Speaker 3: could be further from the truth. This demented lunatic was

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Speaker 3: clinging to the levers of power with his last gasps

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Speaker 3: of his bony fingers, and he didn't even get it

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Speaker 3: over the finish line. So I have to buy you

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Speaker 3: an expensive steak. Damn it. I'm telling you this guy

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Speaker 3: would do and I knew he would, and that was

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Speaker 3: why I thought he might go all the way. Guys,

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Speaker 3: they're not gonna be able Clay. First of all, if

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Speaker 3: he hadn't had the disastrous debate, he wasn't stepping down.

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Speaker 3: And he had the debate and the polls drop because

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Speaker 3: of it, he was not The plan was to take

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Speaker 3: this all the way. I don't know what the conversations

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Speaker 3: were behind closed doors, but I do know this. There

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Speaker 3: was never a conversation with George Washington where Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 3: and Chuck Schumer or their equivalents were like, listen, old man,

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Speaker 3: you're crazy, step down, or we will ruin your family.

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Speaker 3: And something like that happened with Joe Biden. Because why

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Speaker 3: did it take a month? Maybe he kept buying time,

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Speaker 3: saying the polls will turn, the polls will turn. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 3: But I think it started out with pleading and then

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Speaker 3: it turned into bullying. And Biden is the furthest thing

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Speaker 3: from a public servant, the great the anti truth of

649
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: Biden's entire career is that he cares about anybody but

650
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 3: himself and his immediate family, and that they are gaslighting

651
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: us all after Biden had to be basically told that

652
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 3: they'll pry him out of the Oval office if they

653
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: have to, pulling at his feet, that now he's a

654
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 3: selfless hero in the model of George Washington. They're so

655
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 3: dishon they lie so much. I mean, come on, man,

656
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: they gotta do better than that. But I guess maybe

657
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 3: they think they don't.

658
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's just so incredible to me how quickly

659
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: they have turned from Joe Biden has to go to

660
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 2: making it seem like Joe Biden leaving was his own choice,

661
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: said he's actually George Washington or Cincinnatus, if you want

662
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: to go back. For those of us who studied a.

663
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: Long time ago, I do like the Cincinnatus reference. And

664
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Speaker 3: so I think where this leaves us is.

665
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Speaker 2: I don't know that we'll ever get the full honest

666
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 2: story of what went down with Joe Biden getting forced out,

667
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: how it came to pass that his campaign spokesperson was

668
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: on television Sunday morning saying Joe Biden's committed to the race,

669
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: and two hours later they put up a statement on

670
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: Twitter saying He's not going to be continuing. I do

671
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: think that ultimately there was a final threat that was

672
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: made of Joe Biden, and I think they threatened to

673
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: twenty fifth amendment him, and the giveaway was we'll let

674
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Speaker 2: you finish your term if you step away now. And

675
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: I still think there's going to be a payment of

676
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars to some sort of Biden foundation,

677
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: to his library that will allow doctor Jill Biden and

678
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden and all of the Biden grifters to continue

679
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: to make money off of Joe Biden's political career for

680
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: the rest of his life and their life, honestly. And

681
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: Joe Biden was there. I did think it was interesting.

682
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: Joe Biden was there. And now I think she's flying

683
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: on Air Force one or Air Force two to direct

684
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: to Paris so she can represent the United States at

685
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: the Olympics. Which is very funny leaving Joe behind. Hunter

686
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: was also there, as was Ashley Biden sitting there on

687
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: the side of the out of camera frame in the

688
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: Oval office.

689
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 3: Were you at all surprised by the ferocity with which

690
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 3: Biden tried to cling to power even after the debate,

691
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 3: Be honest, you already won the bet, right, So, I mean,

692
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: were you a little taken aback by the fact that

693
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: this guy was Three separate times they basically said, Graham,

694
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: We're gonna shove you down the stairs if you don't

695
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: walk out of the house on your own. I mean,

696
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 3: they really twisted his arm. And each time it was

697
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 3: absolutely not I'm the guy, absolutely not back off.

698
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: No, because of the incredible embarrassment that he's had to acknowledge.

699
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: This was essentially and I said this last night on

700
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 2: Jesse Waters Show, but this was a twenty seven day

701
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: knockout and Buck, you know how we talk about now

702
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: the Lincoln Douglas debates. Still, even though obviously that was

703
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: a pre radio camera I mean photo and certainly modern

704
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: day technologies, we could have recording it with him. It

705
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: would it would be amazing to be able to hear

706
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: what exactly was said and what they sounded like and

707
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: all those things. Even to hear Abraham Lincoln's voice, I

708
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 2: think would be an incredible historical asset to be able

709
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 2: to have. But we talk about the Lincoln Douglas debates,

710
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: we talk about Nixon versus JFK is kind of this

711
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: interesting pivot point in technology where for those of you

712
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: who recall, Nixon won on radio, but that was the

713
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: first one where JFK his incredible good looks and everything else,

714
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Speaker 2: he won on television.

715
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Speaker 3: I was that good looking. I mean, I know I

716
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: was really good looking Romney yesterday, and some of you

717
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: were asking questions, but I'm just saying, like, there's you know, JFK,

718
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: and he's like, good looking for a politician.

719
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Speaker 2: I think everything's to I think JFK is good looking

720
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Speaker 2: for a guy.

721
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 3: I think he's a good looking guy.

722
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: Maybe a little crush on JFK here evidently, But I

723
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: do think that it wasn't only the debate, Buck, I

724
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: think history is going to judge this. First of all,

725
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 2: to your point, I think Joe Biden is going to

726
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: primarily be remembered as the guy who got knocked out

727
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: by Donald Trump in a debate, and for the next

728
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: fifty years when there are presidential debates scheduled, people will say, Hey,

729
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: you don't want to get knocked out like Joe Biden did.

730
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: You don't want your political career to end like Joe

731
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 2: Biden's did. In decades from now, when people have not

732
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: seen that debate, they will. And the second part of

733
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 2: that buck I think is it wasn't just getting knocked

734
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: out in front of fifty million people. It was a

735
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 2: function of the way social media works that even people

736
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: who weren't watching saw the replication of Joe Biden getting

737
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: knocked out over the next twenty seven days, and he

738
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 2: could never get up off the canvas.

739
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Speaker 3: So two points here, Actually I'll take them in reverse

740
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 3: beuse I've been talking to some friends about this. I

741
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 3: think that the defection of Elon Musk a Musk from

742
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: center left to clearly right of center. I don't think

743
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 3: we could define his politics, but he's clearly reality based.

744
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: We could say that, which now means right wing. These

745
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 3: things are synonymous, just a question of you know how

746
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: right wing is one of the biggest assets that we

747
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: have now on the right in the political co conversation.

748
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 3: We don't get it doesn't get talked about very much.

749
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: But there is now an open forum Twitter or X

750
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: which what do we have to call it X now?

751
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: The only downside is we have to call it X

752
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: which is weird. But there's an open forum where they

753
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: cannot hide information in the same way. They cannot suppress

754
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: information the same way. I know people say that's only

755
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: one social media platform. Yeah, but you know, i'll see,

756
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: you know, Clay will see a clip, he'll retweet, I'll

757
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: see the retweet, I'll retweet it, I'll text it to

758
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: all these different people that I know who work at websites,

759
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: and you know, all of a sudden, they can't just

760
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: smother the story with a pillow the way that they

761
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: did in twenty twenty. That's exactly what they did with

762
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 3: the Hunter Byding laptop. But that's true of every story

763
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Speaker 3: right now, and your point, it was true of the

764
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: debate flub as well. They they couldn't, you know, old Twitter. Yeah,

765
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: they wouldn't have said it's banned, but they would have

766
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 3: shadow banned it. They would have limited the some of

767
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: the clips from getting around. They would have said some

768
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 3: of them are disinformation, et cetera, et cetera. They would

769
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: have done all that crap and then to your you know,

770
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Speaker 3: your first point, Clay about the knockout of the debate,

771
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 3: I think it has answered the question do debates matter? Yes,

772
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 3: But I also think there's a caveat to that because

773
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 3: this was a particular circumstance. This wasn't a bad performance

774
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 3: or a policy disaster, like saying just the absolute wrong thing,

775
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: because I think that's always survivable now in our politics.

776
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: This was a step away from a guy in a

777
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: debate who's too old just having a stroke on stage

778
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: and everybody realizing this can't happen. Then you know, that's

779
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: that would have been the next step, or fainting and

780
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 3: falling down because he's so feeble, Like there's just there's

781
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: not really I think gonna be much in the way

782
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: of an equivalent for this, other than I think we

783
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: have proven now there is such a thing as too

784
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 3: old to be president, and until that debate there wasn't.

785
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: There wasn't a too old to be president conception, at

786
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Speaker 3: least as far as Democrats who thought they could win

787
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: were concerned.

788
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, the one thing I would say is, I'm not

789
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: sure it's that Biden is too old. I think that

790
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: it's just his mental and physical faculties are gone. There

791
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: are a lot of eighty five year olds out there

792
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: that I would say, hey, I don't know that I

793
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 2: want to sign on to you for four more years,

794
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: but they can make as good or better decisions than

795
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: almost anybody out there.

796
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 3: I don't want any disagree. I don't want an eighty

797
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 3: five year old as president. I honestly, I think Trump

798
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: is at the absolute limit. And I think Trump is

799
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: he is he is at there. Look, I think this.

800
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: Is where we agree. I do wish we had an

801
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: upper age limit instead of a lower age limit. This

802
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: is one of the things that if we could go

803
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: back in time, I think the founders they were worried

804
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 2: about somebody who was a young guy getting basically like

805
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: a kingship.

806
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 3: But we're not talking about someone running a software company

807
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 3: or a soft drink company or something like that, you know,

808
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: some commercial enterprise. This is about being the commander in

809
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: chief in the United States. And nobody is better in

810
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: their eighties than they were in their sixties or even

811
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: their seventies. It's just that's not a thing. And so

812
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: I again, I think Trump is that the absolute Trump

813
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: is at the absolute upper limit of what I would

814
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: I'm fine with Trump where he is because of the

815
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 3: acuity and the sharpness and the energy that we all see.

816
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 3: So I'm with you, Clay, it has to be a

817
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: case by case, but it's look, they're gonna they're using

818
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: it against them already, and I know that seems so

819
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: unfairly hypocritical, but they're saying, look at Kamala so young

820
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 3: and vital, Trump's kind of old. And we said they

821
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 3: would do that if they switched out Kamala from the

822
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: whole time. This is the most obvious thing they're gonna

823
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 3: call it.

824
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: Takes it, by the way, the only place where you

825
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: can be sixty and considered young and vibrant. I mean,

826
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: she's fifty nine, but there's not very many other places

827
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: where you would say, man, look at how young and

828
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: vibrant that person is. I mean, she's almost sixty. And

829
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Speaker 2: that's the argument that they're trying to make.

830
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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with

831
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: Clay and Buck.

832
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 3: There's a lot of back and forth on the debate

833
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: that is supposed to happen that I wanted to get

834
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: to the Kamala campaign. That's what it is now, a campaign.

835
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: She is the person Michelle and Barack Obama have come

836
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: out to endorse, so there is no it is Kamala.

837
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 3: Thought this would be the case for quite some time.

838
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 3: If not Biden, then Kamala. It is Kamala. And they

839
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: are very enthusiastic. They are buoyed, perhaps in their hopes

840
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: it's a good usage of the term I think of

841
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: being able to not only make this a competitive race

842
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 3: that will protect down ballot races, but I think a

843
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: lot of Democrats are starting to believe that Kamala can

844
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 3: actually be Trump. They certainly are convincing themselves, and are

845
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: they convincing others as well. This is why I think

846
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: the debate that's coming up is going to get a

847
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: whole lot of attention. Trump essentially had a knockout in

848
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: the debate with Joe Biden. That was what undid him.

849
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 3: I'm not bitter about it, Joe, But if you had

850
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 3: just not been such a dumbass and waited to debate

851
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 3: until the fall, Clay would be buying me delicious steak.

852
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: But no, but no, you had to go out there

853
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: like a doddering old fool and make a mess of

854
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 3: it all, Joe. So here we are, Clay enjoying the

855
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: victory lap and Buck just saying what could have been?

856
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: It was so close, so close, we fumbled on the

857
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 3: one yard line.

858
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: Joe so much. Rather be buying you the most expensive

859
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 2: steak of all time and Joe Biden be the nominee,

860
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: then have you buying me the most expensive stake of

861
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: all time and Kamala Harris being the nominee? Because I

862
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: think whenever we sit down, this is going to be

863
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 2: a stressful fall. Now, yes, it's gonna be. Think Biden

864
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: could win the machine.

865
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 3: The machine has completely mobilized behind Kamala. And what we

866
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: see is that Joe Biden's age was the unavoidable thing

867
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: that the Democrats on once he got on stage again,

868
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 3: they were all in. And I think this is important.

869
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: Remember they were all in on pretending he was fine

870
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 3: through the election, because if if they weren't, you would

871
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 3: have had New York Times editorials and all the stuff

872
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 3: that we saw saying Joe stepped down in January actually

873
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: would have had in last summer. Right. If they were

874
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: going to be honest about this, they thought they could

875
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: get away with it. They thought they could fool enough

876
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: of the American people to pull this off. For four

877
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: more years. Now we're past that, and now it's Kamala.

878
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: Let's get into some of this. First off, there's dishonesty

879
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 3: and then there's just stupidity, and those things often go together.

880
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: But Clay, when they tell us that Joe, I mean

881
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: that Trump rather is backpedaling on the debate. I mean

882
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: you had to have Pete Buddha Judge talking about this.

883
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 3: There are others as well. Here, let's go to cut seventeen.

884
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 3: This is Kamala Harris on the debate with Trump. Let's

885
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 3: hear at play seventeen.

886
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 6: I'll tell you I'm ready to debate Donald Trump. I

887
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 6: have agreed to the previously agreed upon September tenth debate.

888
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 6: He agreed to that previously. Now Piercy's backpeddling, But I'm ready,

889
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 6: and I think the voters deserve to see the split

890
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 6: screen that exists in this race on a debate stage.

891
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 6: And so I'm ready.

892
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 4: Let's go.

893
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 3: Okay, that is an agreement that was made between two people.

894
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 3: You know, somebody else could call in and say, oh,

895
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: but you also owe me a steake buck because I

896
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 3: agreed with Clay on this one, you know, not the

897
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: Jdvans one. We won that one team. But you know,

898
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: and I would say no that the deal was with

899
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: Clay Clay and I had a gentleman's bet, right. Kamala

900
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: Harris is a different candidate, and we all understand that

901
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 3: the circumstances of the debate, for example, ABC News George Stephanopoulos,

902
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 3: they will pull out all the stops the media that

903
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 3: people were expecting in the CNN. Some people I wasn't

904
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 3: were expecting in the CNN debate that did not show up.

905
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: They played the CNN debate straight because what they didn't

906
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: want to do was look pathetic with doddering, old fool

907
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: Biden just being Biden, which would be enough, and them

908
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: attacking Trump like attack dogs, right, because that would undermine them.

909
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: Now it's a different dynamic. The Trump campaign should absolutely

910
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: not agree to an ABC News debate with Kamala Harris

911
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: when the media knows they have to do everything in

912
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: their power to help her win.

913
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: This no doubt. And I mean it's a new negotiation.

914
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 2: So Trump knocked out Joe Biden. I think they can

915
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: do a good job of making that argument. And I

916
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: think what the Trump team should say is we want

917
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 2: multiple debates, don't just want one on September tenth. And

918
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: Trump should be negotiating from a position of strength now

919
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: because he already agreed any time, any place, anywhere, and

920
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: he showed up and he knocked Joe Biden's political career

921
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: out forever. And now I don't want just one debate

922
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 2: on ABC on September tenth. I believe Trump had as

923
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 2: agreed to a Fox News debate on September seventeenth, which

924
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: has been suggested, with Martha McCollum and Brett Baher as

925
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: the moderators. I think that's fair, and now they'll sit

926
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: down and figure out. I also think Trump has put

927
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 2: out a statement saying, hey, we want to wait until

928
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: we know who the actual nominee is, which is also fair.

929
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: And it looks like they're going to nominate Kamala Harris

930
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: earlier than the official nomination, meaning the Democrat National Convention,

931
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: which happens in late August. Here is also what I

932
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 2: would add associated with this. I think what the polls

933
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: look like at the end of next week is going

934
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: to be really important, because I told you early this

935
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: week I thought Kamala Harris would get a seven to

936
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 2: ten day bump, as a lot of people become excited

937
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: about her. She's a new candidate. She may get another

938
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: bump when she adds her vice president, but to what

939
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: extent is her water level? In other words, as people

940
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: become more aware of who she is, and as there

941
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: are attacks levied against her, where is this race going

942
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: to be? Right about time the DNC starts and then

943
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: also Labor Day when a lot of people come out

944
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: of their summer vacations, when everybody's kids are back in school,

945
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: and the quote unquote normal world starts to really pay

946
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: attention to the fact that we're in the midst of

947
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: a heavy political process. So far, Kamala has not been

948
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: able to take a lead in the collective polls that

949
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 2: are out there, but it's tighter than it was, which

950
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: is kind of what we anticipated. I will say Buck

951
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: Kamala now in the gambling markets has taken the lead

952
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: in Michigan. Now it's fifty one to forty nine. But

953
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 2: this is the first time there's been a lead in

954
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: the Midwest states for a Democrat in a while. Now,

955
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: Trump still has a decent lead in Pennsylvania, still has

956
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: a decent lead in Arizona, Georgia, all the other battleground

957
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: states but I do think this is sort of the tightening,

958
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: for lack of a better way to describe it, and

959
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 2: it's happening a little bit Earlier Biden couldn't win, Democrats

960
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: recognized it. His age was ultimately the knockout factor. In

961
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 2: conjunction with that debate, Democrats have now brought in the

962
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 2: backup quarterback. So far, she's got a good first quarter.

963
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: In a sports analogy, how often does the backup quarterback

964
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: come in play well in the first quarter and then

965
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: something goes a little bit awry and they kind of

966
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 2: fall apart. Usually there's a reason there. A backup quarterback

967
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 2: is Kamala someone who can be an elite political leader.

968
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 2: I have my doubts, but so far Democrats are rallying

969
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: around her like she can. Now here's the one advantage

970
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: I would say buck that Trump had, as I really

971
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: still feel like, no matter who is attacking him, there

972
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: is no new ground of attack. And there it's painful

973
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 2: to get attacked and ripped and torn asunder when you

974
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: enter into the political sphere, but at some point the

975
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: American public knows you, and there's nothing new that can

976
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 2: come out that changes people's opinions about Trump. We saw this.

977
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: I think with the lawfair. They tried to put him

978
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: in prison for the rest of his life. They charged

979
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: him with whatever it was, ninety felonies all over the country,

980
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: and it actually benefited him because people thought Democrats were overreaching.

981
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: They charged him with sexual assault in the civil context,

982
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 2: they hit him with a four hundred and fifty million

983
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 2: dollar fine. None of it worked. I have some cautious

984
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: optimism that there's nothing that Kamala Harris can say that

985
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: is going to change people's opinions of Donald Trump. He

986
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: has a high floor, maybe a woe ceiling, but I

987
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: think Trump's positive negatives, trumpiness is baked in with the electorate.

988
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: I don't think most people really know Kamala Harris, and

989
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 2: I think some of the punches that the Trump campaign

990
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: is going to land on her are going to register

991
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: in a way that the counterpunches don't. Does that make sense? Now?

992
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: The debates could still matter in a big way because

993
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 2: if Trump came out and performed in a really poor

994
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: fashion like Biden did, I think that could change expectations.

995
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: But I just think Trump's a known quantity, and that's

996
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: the thing I like the most. As we sit here,

997
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: basically three months out.

998
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 3: I just wonder how Trump is going to approach this debate.

999
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 3: You know, there's so much posturing and so much propaganda

1000
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 3: and messaging and counter messaging out there right now about

1001
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 3: how Kamala's candidacy is being received and the weaknesses of Trump.

1002
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 3: And you know, we all understood all of the dynamics

1003
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 3: with Trump and Biden. You know, you really did that.

1004
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 3: There were no surprises. You knew what Trump was going

1005
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: to say about Biden, you knew what Biden was going

1006
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 3: to say about Trump, and just their weaknesses and strengths

1007
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 3: were apparent to everyone, not just from an analytic perspective,

1008
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 3: but for the electorate. I think I think it was

1009
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 3: pretty clear why people went with one or the other.

1010
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 3: The thing that is definitely emerging right now as I

1011
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 3: see Clay, is they're turning this into a battle over women.

1012
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 3: Right this is already the influencers and the pundits and

1013
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 3: everything else. They yes, they really think that the way

1014
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 3: they win this thing with Biden and Trump, it was

1015
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 3: who is going to win. Biden was going to win

1016
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 3: the black vote by a huge majority. The demographic that

1017
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 3: was going to determine it was working class white males

1018
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 3: in the swing states, like that was what it was.

1019
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 3: That was what it came down to in twenty twenty,

1020
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 3: and that was what it was going to come down

1021
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 3: to now. A lot of them it was that they

1022
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 3: didn't show up for Trump, but put that aside this

1023
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 3: time around, Clay, I think they believe that they can

1024
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 3: do a lot of damage to Trump's electoral chances, a

1025
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 3: lot more damage on the female side of the equation. Yes,

1026
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: they think they think that women can deliver this for Kamala,

1027
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 3: So while we talk about her as DEI really the

1028
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 3: identity politics of gender may be primary in this and

1029
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 3: I'm seeing that start to emerge as as a major

1030
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 3: theme of the campaign. I'm gonna make a prediction now,

1031
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna They're gonna keep saying it, but

1032
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: you're just gonna feel their heart's not in it.

1033
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 4: With the like defense of democracy.

1034
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: It's a new era, new time and new candidate. I

1035
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 3: think they realize that stuff that was the Biden thing.

1036
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: I also think there's gonna be a lot of attempted

1037
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: bullying of black men, who I still think are very

1038
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 2: responsive to Trump. But there's gonna be a lot of

1039
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: you know, you should be voting for the black women.

1040
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: They're going to try to enact cultural pressure. And we'll

1041
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 2: play some audio from Steph Curry, who is a prominent

1042
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: basketball player right now on the US men's Olympic team

1043
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 2: overseas in Paris, already endorsing Kamala Harris. I do think

1044
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 2: that's going to be a part of their strategy too,

1045
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 2: because if I'm right and twenty five percent of black

1046
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 2: men vote for Trump, there is no pathway for Democrats

1047
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 2: to win, and they know that they have to get

1048
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 2: ninety percent or more of black men, and so I

1049
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: think you're going to start to see cultural pressure exerted

1050
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: on black men to get behind Kamala Harris because she's

1051
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 2: a black woman, and just the racial solidarity argument is coming.

1052
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: I think a lot of you out there who are

1053
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: black men and women who are listening to us, I'd

1054
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: be curious if you agree with that. If the dynamics

1055
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 2: have changed, I don't think there was a lot of hey,

1056
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 2: you've got to support Joe Biden pressure from the black community.

1057
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 2: I think it will be ratcheted up in a big

1058
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: way with Kamala Harris.