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Speaker 1: how how did it get away? I mean, I know

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Speaker 2: I think it was eight nothing, Yeah, I eight nothing.

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Speaker 1: The Mets have scored I think runs in only three

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Speaker 1: I'm still not out. Don't worry, I'm not giving up.

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Speaker 1: There's none of that nonsense coming on over here. But

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Speaker 1: bit for the first time all postseason, during this crazy,

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Speaker 1: James wasn't sitting with you tonight. I was sitting with Clay.

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Speaker 1: Shout out, Clay, Jeff mckitts, how are you feeling up

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Speaker 2: Uh terrible. I mean, it was just we talked about

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Speaker 2: then just got caught. And then Bianto struck out, and

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Speaker 2: then it got the second inning. Immediately, all the wind

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Speaker 2: Okay again?

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Speaker 1: Yeah you you spaced out? You were I mean, it's late,

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Speaker 2: I got really pissed off with the big guy get

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Speaker 2: There's no more time to get somebody right.

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Speaker 1: This is it?

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Speaker 2: Like you have, you have maybe three games left in

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Speaker 1: And what's so frustrating, too, is that Jesse Winker has

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Speaker 1: a Hernandez terrible all season long, awful, awful player for

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Speaker 1: Slot him right in center field to play every single day,

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Speaker 1: Might as well walcome me so slow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not really been hitting the ball hard at all.

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Speaker 2: And now we're three games into this series and every

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Speaker 1: Shocker home runs win baseball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again that's also no shit, because the Met's

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Speaker 2: and the Mets have eleven total runs going back to

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Speaker 1: I can't believe we still have to talk more about

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Speaker 2: Or flushing it. A couple more men's were flushing this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's sure. We gotta flush it out because there

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Speaker 2: Dave Roberts really outmadaged Carl Spento's. Yeah he did. There

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there were. There were forty similar balls hit to that,

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Speaker 1: And again we've been mentioning Mendoza stuff a lot. I

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Speaker 1: No, And I think another thing that is hurting this

430
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Speaker 1: offense is also Brandon Neimo's clearly not one hundred percent

431
00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,960
Speaker 1: even close to it, just fifty Yeah, I just can't

432
00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,840
Speaker 1: even imagine that he's feeling too well based on how

433
00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,600
Speaker 1: he's performed and what we know is going on and

434
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Speaker 1: not I don't I don't know how you fix this.

435
00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,320
Speaker 1: This is not a what are you doing scenario type thing.

436
00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,640
Speaker 1: But he is hitting third in this lineup, so he's

437
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Speaker 1: getting a ton of at bats in the middle of

438
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Speaker 1: the order with guys on base, and he's just not

439
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,159
Speaker 1: at his best, which is hurting us. So it's like,

440
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Speaker 1: doing you move Pete up? Do you get Jesse Winker

441
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Speaker 1: hitting up? Hire? Is this? I know?

442
00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,640
Speaker 2: Like Martese even hit swinging the bat bed than most

443
00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,520
Speaker 2: other guys right now, but still not great. And again

444
00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,080
Speaker 2: like that first game was top of the other, zero

445
00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,600
Speaker 2: for thirteen. In this game from six down the other

446
00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,399
Speaker 2: only only only there was only one hit. Yeah, and

447
00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,399
Speaker 2: that's the problem right now, you're getting nothing. I mean,

448
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,880
Speaker 2: Tyrone tells still think it's good at bats, but Jose Glaciers,

449
00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,240
Speaker 2: it just it's sadly he's turned to a bit of

450
00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,160
Speaker 2: a pumpkin. At the worst possible time. Alvarez has lost.

451
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,800
Speaker 2: JD looks fucking cooked like an egg. It's being Regeric

452
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Speaker 2: is up his first big hit and it feels like

453
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Speaker 2: a month and a half that sucked. Keik Hernandez, I

454
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Speaker 2: just don't even know. Like sev Reno battles, I'm gonnat

455
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Speaker 2: tell you pitch Graapels wouldn't tell you pitch that poorly.

456
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,119
Speaker 2: He definitely pitched well enough to keep his team in

457
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Speaker 2: the game and give him a chance to win.

458
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Speaker 1: The runs that gave up were kind of his fault too, of.

459
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,359
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, making an error, fucking goal GLO finalists, the

460
00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 2: only goal Glo Finals this team, go Figure Francisco in doors,

461
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,960
Speaker 2: not Luis Averrinas and his stonehands in the playoffs. Ah

462
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 2: and purely with amazing Bueller stuff was It was his

463
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,640
Speaker 2: best start of the year. This stuff looked like twenty

464
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Speaker 2: eighteen Bueler, the way that he moved like all of

465
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Speaker 2: his pitchers. My got mj D Analysis put out a

466
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Speaker 2: really good tweeted about it because he's just like the

467
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Speaker 2: way he articulated the movement here. I'm gonna use his

468
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Speaker 2: words exactly where is he? Where is he? Where is he?

469
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Speaker 1: M j D.

470
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Speaker 2: I'll find it right now. You maybe true, No, my guy,

471
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Speaker 2: Mikey m j D Analysis, I think it works for

472
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,359
Speaker 2: Nova Baseball. This is one of the most ridiculous movement

473
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Speaker 2: profiles I've ever seen with major league balls twenty inches

474
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Speaker 2: avert from a five and a half foot launch, two

475
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 2: breaking balls as a siren whales behind me. You know

476
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:58,359
Speaker 2: what urgency to two breaking balls traveling twenty inches in

477
00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 2: either direction, a bridge color to bring them all together,

478
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 2: and a two seamer against Riety's for good measure. It

479
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 2: was literally this was like the Walker Bueler when he

480
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 2: was like a burden, a burgeoning ace, when I was a

481
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 2: future superstar. This guy's gonna be the best to start

482
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,199
Speaker 2: met with. Made Walker Bueler twenty to four of the

483
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 2: extra million dollars offseasons. This took him off the one

484
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 2: year rental kind of package, which is hilarious. We've been

485
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 2: making a stupid fucking joke for the last three months.

486
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 2: He's gonna be the one year rental on the Mets

487
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 2: next year, probably not anymore with that fucking sweeper. But also,

488
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,120
Speaker 2: this is the other problem with Mendoza's playing the whole

489
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 2: line up of Riety's. You're giving him an option to

490
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Speaker 2: throw that sweeper. That's his best fucking pitch, even if

491
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,360
Speaker 2: you put the lefties in. I know, if you don't

492
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 2: only trust him that much. At least he can't throw

493
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 2: that pitch like you're not. Sometimes baseball is a little

494
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 2: bit about playing chess and not just about the people's personalities,

495
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 2: but those they're so good with the personalities. That was

496
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 2: a chess move. You were like, no, I want to

497
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 2: let them be able to use their best pitches against us.

498
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 2: You could have just been a little cute about it.

499
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, he's gotta be an injury thing, right,

500
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 2: it has to be both. But then like, probably is

501
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 2: a winker emick, I guess, But if it's not, it's

502
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 2: just fucking stupid, Like there isn't a shred of logic

503
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 2: that could tell you that in this game, with this matchup,

504
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 2: Jjon Martinez better than Jesse Winker.

505
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 1: What's funny too, is I know, like on Twitter, a

506
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 1: lot of the discourse about Winkerler like he's got two

507
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 1: home runs off Bueller in his career, and you were like,

508
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 1: that's not the same Walker Bueller.

509
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 2: Actually that matters.

510
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: Hello, It actually kind of was.

511
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 2: This was actually this version of Walker Puler. But that

512
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 2: shit doesn't matter either. I hate when people use those

513
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 2: stats like these pictures are so fucking different all the time.

514
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 2: It matters a little bit mentally, but like Walker Bueller

515
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 2: now again tonight it mattered, But he used to be

516
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 2: the guy that throw ninety eight like up in the zone,

517
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 2: like oh yeah, shit was different.

518
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah if he if he's a worst pitcher, I'm sure

519
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 1: you'd do what you do better.

520
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. It just the whole thing is

521
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: just it's painful.

522
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sucked. It was It was a bad game.

523
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: Flush it down the toilet, forget about it. Another one tomorrow.

524
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: Savarino said after the game, I've done this before. Yeah,

525
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm not in this series before. Totally can come back.

526
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 1: There's no reason we can't come back.

527
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 2: To me, that's actually not true. The Bets have not

528
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Speaker 2: been down a series this whole postseason.

529
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Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm just paraphrasing what he said. I don't

530
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Speaker 1: think I don't think he physically said that. I'm just

531
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Speaker 1: going he said, this is nothing new. We need to

532
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: come back and try win tomorrow. If we went two

533
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: out of three here, that would be huge for us.

534
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Speaker 1: There's exactly what he said. But uh, he's right. I

535
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 1: guess I guess I won't have FOMO on Friday while

536
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm blind Chicago celebrating the World Series.

537
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might be h I might be in a

538
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 2: bad spot that day, but I also I posted a

539
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 2: look quick tweet on the mess up to weether. There's

540
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 2: just a couple of questions you guys. Some of you

541
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 2: guys had some really funny responses our guy Brandon at

542
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 2: b LUX two seventy nine. Do you believe MLB is

543
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 2: ringing it for the Dodgers? No, definitely not, definitely not.

544
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 2: But did the mess did hit some of those balls

545
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: and I couldn't believe they get out the Pete one

546
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 2: the third inning, two was second at batoff Bueler. Lador

547
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 2: had two of them, the one off Copek and then

548
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: the first step bat of the game, the Vianza's one.

549
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 2: I was like, where the fuck are these going? Another one,

550
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: This is a good one from Michael mcdee, which is true,

551
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: like we're not giving up. We're just lamenting right now,

552
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 2: we're venting. Why are so many Mets fans ready to

553
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: give up? I'm not ready to give up. We're not

554
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: fucking ready to give up. That's not true. Another one

555
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 2: here from Chris New Yorker in the Midwest. Why does

556
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 2: God hate us? That's a good one. A lot of

557
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 2: where was Winker? Where was Winker? Where it was Winker?

558
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 2: Of course? Another one from Christopherzico. Do you actually think

559
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 2: would you start Louise Torens over Francisco overres I I

560
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 2: think I'd.

561
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Speaker 1: Be giving him a bump against Yoshinoba. Yeah, Moto tomorrow.

562
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: I really do think the there's obviously way more ceiling

563
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: with Francisco Alvrez. There's no doubt that when he's right,

564
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: he has the ability to take over a game. We've

565
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,479
Speaker 1: seen he can change the way a game is played.

566
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: Having him in the nine hole when he's right is dangerous.

567
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 1: That's it's a very very dangerous hitter there. But he

568
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: is not right. He is about as lost as I've

569
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: ever seen a player in the postseason. His age is

570
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: really showing his I don't want to say immaturity, but

571
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 1: his his lack of seasoning is kind of showing a

572
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: little bit, yeah, lack of plan. It just it feels

573
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: like a confident twenty two year old who's in a

574
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: funk getting figured out, and he's like, I'm better, I'm

575
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: gonna get out of this just by being the same

576
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: player I always have been, rather than making adjustments. Might

577
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: not be fair to say that, but that's what it

578
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: looks like on the outside looking in. I really would

579
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Speaker 1: give Louise Trends a bump tomorrow. What's the worst he

580
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: can do over for I mean, that's kind of what

581
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: our Yeah, he's at least going to be. Like Albert

582
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: has been fine defensively whatever he's his framing was a

583
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: little ify today. Apparently Lorenzi is at least could be

584
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: rock solid behind the plate, So you have that.

585
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's I also think logically, like if

586
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: there was ever a time to give him a blow,

587
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 2: like it's the middle game of the three games, the

588
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: middle of the series, Yes, and just give him a breadth.

589
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: You can even tell them.

590
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: I tefically got an earlier start on Friday.

591
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: Like yeah, Like it's just not the worst idea because

592
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: again we talked about the beginning of the series. Is

593
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 2: the first time this Mets team has had a breath

594
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 2: in weeks. Maybe it's a good time just let these

595
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: guys catch it actually instead of just I don't know,

596
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: like the rhythm just seems off compared to where it's been.

597
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: But I think we're gonna talk a lot more about

598
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: Game four, but one more quick at for you guys.

599
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: What's funny is when me and James were on the

600
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: train talking about this, we were like, one add today,

601
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: we're not gonna talk. We're gonna talk for fifteen minutes.

602
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: Here we are. Twenty five minutes.

603
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: Later, we're five more minutes.

604
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Speaker 1: Five more minutes. We're gonna talk about game four. We

605
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about Game three anymore. Everybody forget it.

606
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: It's done. As soon as you hear this, no more

607
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: Game three talk to anybody.

608
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Speaker 2: I will give I will give some credit to a

609
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: few places. One there wasn't that bat before the Dodgers

610
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: had scored the and it was that second ending, and

611
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: it just just gives some credit to Dodger because they're

612
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: playing well. They're a good team. Will Smith went down

613
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: two immediately on two Colors against every two really nice pitches,

614
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: and then he battled so fucking hard to work at

615
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: a nine pitch at bat where he eventually hit that

616
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Speaker 2: stupid infield single off Severino's glove where he there was

617
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: a ball and a sweeper that looking back, it was

618
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Speaker 2: very definitely a strike. Will Smith got the call that

619
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Speaker 2: kind of sucked. Would have been a nice strikeout chains

620
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: Viba a little bit, but then a foul ball, a

621
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: foul ball, another ball that just missed a foul ball,

622
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: another sweeper that looks like really looked like a grabbed

623
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Speaker 2: the corner, really did looking back at the k zone

624
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 2: after this bat in the ballpark, but he didn't get it.

625
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 2: And then he just nubbed out a color for a

626
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: single nine pitch at bat. Those always feel like they

627
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 2: didn't get you. So that was good. I'm again give

628
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: some credit to Dodgers team, and I just get it good.

629
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 2: They are good too, good ball clubs. And yeah, I

630
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: don't know, fucking Walker Bueler, he really really showed the

631
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 2: fuck up all the ship. We talked, kind of forgot

632
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 2: that he is a dog at the end of the day,

633
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: always has been, always will be. And he dug deep

634
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: and he had his best start of the fucking year.

635
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, Padris might just tow him. We're we're playing

636
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: them right now. But I said it, I know we.

637
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: I think we realized it after we talked about it,

638
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: and then.

639
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: I always realized it. Don't say we, you realized that

640
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: I will the whole time, all right.

641
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: I died on that. I was in between.

642
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were, That's what I'm saying, don't say we

643
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Speaker 1: it's a youth think, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I think you were a little bit with me at

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Speaker 2: the beginning of Murphy Satnight. But game four Thursday night,

646
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Speaker 2: eight pm. Asof Yoshi No but Yamamoto versus Jose Cantana,

647
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Speaker 2: that's it again. How many times do we go? How

648
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Speaker 2: many times the season will be online? Joseknhana on the bump?

649
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: How many times we're gonna listen to Kingandana by Travis

650
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Speaker 1: Scott in the morning. I'm gonna listen to it so

651
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: much it's been working. Gotta keep it going, Gotta keep

652
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,239
Speaker 1: the vibes up. The great thing is, even if they

653
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Speaker 1: lose tomorrow, season still not done. It's not technically over,

654
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: not technically over. But boy, oh boy, would I love

655
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Speaker 1: to tie it up tomorrow. I'd really feel a lot better.

656
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's really this simple, because I know, like

657
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Speaker 1: eight nothing, ten nothing, that's what it looks like. I

658
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: think if the Bats are alive in those games, those

659
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: games are gonna be a lot closer. They're handled a

660
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: little bit differently, the vibe is different. I don't think

661
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: the Dodgers break it open like they do. If you're

662
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Speaker 1: able to put a little bit more pressure on them,

663
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: because really, once they went up four nothing to then

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Speaker 1: they were like, oh, this game is oh like that

665
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: kyk Hernandez.

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00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 2: Was yeah, oh fell over, Yeah for sure.

667
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Speaker 1: So I think it's it's just the bats gotta wake up.

668
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: Bats gotta wake up, and maybe we get a couple

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Speaker 1: of fly balls that go out for home runs tomorrow,

670
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: maybe the wind blows the other one. I don't know

671
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: what it's gonna have to take. But the bats just

672
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: simply need to be better. I really don't think the

673
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: pitching has actually been a problem at all.

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Speaker 2: I think pitchings every single games is good enough to win.

675
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: That was a hanger from Riga, but I still trust Regar.

676
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: He still is like the best reliever we have to

677
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Speaker 2: that point.

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Speaker 1: That's four runs, like four five scores.

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Speaker 2: Score four runs is.

680
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Speaker 1: The range of where you're like, you need to score

681
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Speaker 1: to win most games.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I would be I would be very comfortable to

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Speaker 2: the Mets score four runs, and like, what if they

684
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: could win a game and not win a game, you'd

685
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: least be in the game at the end. But I

686
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Speaker 2: want to talk about Yamode a little bit. A lot

687
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Speaker 2: is being made in the media about what's being called

688
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 2: reverse splits on him. I hate, I hate reverse splits

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Speaker 2: conceptually because it really just comes down to pitch design.

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00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: And I think that there is a marithm with Molos

691
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Speaker 2: just because his two main secondary pitches Austree pitchers are

692
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 2: going to be the splitther and the curveball, and those

693
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: are pitches that not are They're not tougher on right,

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Speaker 2: I mean I guess they are. I don't know, they're

695
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Speaker 2: just pitching.

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Speaker 1: The curveball thing doesn't make sense to me, just because

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Speaker 1: it's it's still coming into your bat at some point.

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Speaker 2: A little bit his His is a little more twelve sixty.

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Speaker 2: I mean not really. His actually does have some His

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00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: does have some horizontal moving on it.

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Speaker 1: But the splitter, I understand.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's a conceptual thing where those are pitches

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Speaker 2: that aren't gonna have any splits because they're moving much

704
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: more up and down, where sliders and sweepest specially will

705
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: always have a split because it's going further towards a player.

706
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Speaker 2: But I also don't think it's that smart to be

707
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Speaker 2: that extreme about it. Like again, like this year, yeah,

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Speaker 2: like left right handed hitters perform better than and left

709
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: handed hitters they perform significantly better, but he faced fewer

710
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Speaker 2: than two hundreds of each, so I don't to me,

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Speaker 2: that's not super indicative of the sam I'd love if

712
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: some smart baseball people, some like people have ever worked

713
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: at baseball ops could get at me and this one

714
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: explains to me. But it just isn't. It doesn't feel

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Speaker 2: like a thing to me where the Mets should be

716
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: running away from the lefties, especially when the lefties might

717
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: simply be better hitters than the righties. That to me might

718
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: be a situation for making a mistake.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm also this is like gonna sound crazy, but

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Speaker 1: I am looking at the lefties that have gotten the

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00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: most played appearances this year against him, Charlie Blackman, who

722
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: just retired, Ryan McMahon had a down year, Jake McCarthy

723
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: not much of a hitter, Cody Bellinger bad year. I

724
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: mean it was down, though he was whatever. Corbyn Carroll

725
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: was bad, so he could have face corbyan Carroll when

726
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: he was bad. I really don't know.

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00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: Because but missed a big part of the middle season. Yeah,

728
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: and I think that's what he pays early bad Carol

729
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: Good McMahon, though good McMahon.

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Speaker 1: Jake Cave was a guy that faced a lot Sam

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Speaker 1: Hilliard like, I don't know. Again, the sample sizes are

732
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: super important. I don't think there's enough there to say

733
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: whether or not. I'm sure they're end up going to

734
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: be the same of if you took everybody's WRC plus

735
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: righties versus lefties. I bet you it's gonna be pretty

736
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: close to each other. That's just how baseball works. But yeah,

737
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Speaker 1: I don't love running away from it. And you kind

738
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: of mentioned it earlier too. By just giving him right,

739
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: he's now you allow him to throw the other pitchers

740
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: as well.

741
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Speaker 2: But he doesn't. He doesn't really throw other pitches. The

742
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: whole thing with ya Mother is that his his approach

743
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: against the rights and left he is basically the same.

744
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: It's forcing fastballs, it's split fingers, and it's curveballs. He

745
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: will throw a few more colors to the lefties and

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Speaker 2: then once in a while he'll mix in some sliders

747
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: and two seamers to the rightys. But it is going

748
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Speaker 2: to be up and down. It's an up and down

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Speaker 2: game with Yamo. Though it's four seemers high splitters made

750
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Speaker 2: his curveballs low. It is the That's what he does.

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Speaker 1: I just don't love the decision.

752
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: No, true, I understand conceptually why this would be reverse splits,

753
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Speaker 2: but I just don't think that, especially if the hitters

754
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: are worse. It's not worse, That's what I'm saying. Like,

755
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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like I'm gonna not keep where

756
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: I keep every single writing and the why don't we

757
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: play every lefty against Wauka Bueler then, because his best

758
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: offse pitch is a sweeper by far? So why are

759
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: we doing that? Why now we care about all the

760
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: bandedness of our hitters in the day before we did not.

761
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: I just Wicker must be fucked up. If he's not,

762
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: I'm upset.

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00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and McNeil clearly is because they're refusing to play

764
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Speaker 1: him anywhere at all.

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00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they pitch hits for Tyrone Taylor and the lead

766
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: off in the eighth I'm like.

767
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 1: What the fuck is this ship down seven? Whatever it is?

768
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: And then I just the one other thing that I

769
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't want to foresee this, but I

770
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: know that Tyler McGill kind of came in and got

771
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: smacked around a little bit Onie show. We hit the

772
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: home runs off him. But when you're planning for game

773
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: five to still be a combination of Coda saying and

774
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 2: David Peterson Kintana is on a bit of an island

775
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: now in this game four because he's six. Say, if

776
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 2: anything goes wrong early, what the fuck do you do?

777
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: You're back into a corn Does Petersan just come in?

778
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: Does Kodi come in?

779
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: Like?

780
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: What is the contingency plan? If Katana gives up two

781
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: in the second and they look bad, like they're hit hard?

782
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: Is there a plan where if McNeil truly isn't ready

783
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: and isn't actually able to go, does it just throw

784
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: them the il and you say he's done for the year,

785
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: We bring another pitch.

786
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: Like to bring someone else back. If you did this

787
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: put McNeil here originally, I don't think.

788
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: Out of you back on the roster. I don't know.

789
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: I guess Budo getting pitched.

790
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: I guess Bootle could just be a long man now.

791
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: I think they'll probably give mey Ton a couple of innings.

792
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: Like about I guess they have those guys ready to go.

793
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: I don't.

794
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: I just I don't know it's gonna they just we

795
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: need we need another Jose.

796
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: It'd be great. Let's score one hundred runs. I promise

797
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: we won't lose.

798
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, if your guys going to city Field tomorrow, come

799
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: in with high energy. Let's just try to get to Yoshinobiyambo.

800
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: There's no way he's ever pitched an environment like what

801
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: City Field could be like today Thursday.

802
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: I will say any chance about you know this or that.

803
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's necessarily gonna hit as much

804
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: for Yoshinobayamamoto as it would have for other pitchers, but

805
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: get to him, get to him. He's never had an

806
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: environment like this.

807
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: There's no way we're putting guys on base. We smacked

808
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: him around in April. Let's just it's about getting that

809
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: first run on the board. This has not been like

810
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: the other series we've played. Teams score first one every

811
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: single game so far. All three games again partially we

812
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: got shot out twice. Can't win with no runs, That

813
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: makes sense, never happen, but it never happened once in

814
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: the history baseball. And yeah, mother is good. Like I

815
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: think Mets fans kind of pretend he's not good. Sometimes

816
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: he's a good fucking pitcher. You just got to get

817
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 2: to the guy. You have to fucking get to the guy.

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Speaker 1: He's hittable.

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Speaker 2: Of course he's beatable. He has to be.

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Speaker 1: Let's fucking do it, guys. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: listening to this episode of the Mets Up Podcast. Make

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Speaker 2: James Underscore, Giana.

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Speaker 1: I'm Draftnick Mark with a C. We will catch you

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Speaker 1: guys after game four. We would really like to be

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Speaker 1: a lot happier than I am tonight. So let's fucking go, Mets.

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Speaker 2: Wake up, Let's fucking go Mets. Let's tie it up.

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Speaker 2: See guys tomorrow