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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where sometimes we get stuck inside

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Speaker 1: of pitching cages. I'm Greg Rosenthal from my house, but

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Speaker 1: Jordan Rodriguez at the Rams facility and yeah, she's literally

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Speaker 1: taping this inside of a pitching cage and her her

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Speaker 2: I guess that the player is running through. So thank

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Speaker 2: you for playing hurt today, Jordan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the scent of sweat is just oozing upward from

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Speaker 3: the from the hit pads today. You know, football is back.

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Speaker 2: It is very back.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, if you're watching on YouTube, you can see

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Speaker 1: the setup that Jordan beautiful picture.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, today's show a little different.

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Speaker 1: I was at Chargers camp earlier, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: listen to some conversations I had and some thoughts at

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Speaker 1: Chargers camp later. But we're going to start the show

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Speaker 1: with just a little bit of news, and then Jordan

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Speaker 1: and I decided to talk about some teams that haven't

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Speaker 1: been talked enough about on this show. So we're going

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Speaker 1: to try to get to a lot of stuff. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I'm not going to mess around with the

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Speaker 1: chit chat. Jordan, I apologize. Let's do some news there's

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Speaker 1: a couple items here on Monday before we get to

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Speaker 1: those teams we haven't talked about enough. We've talked plenty

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Speaker 1: about the Texans, and they learned today that their defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle that they signed in the offseason, Denico Autry, suspended

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Speaker 1: for six games for violating the pe D policy at

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And it's a shame, really good player, thirty

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Speaker 1: four years old and most importantly a key member of

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Speaker 3: Them, fifty nine sacks in his last ten seasons, eleven

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Speaker 3: and a half in twenty twenty three in Tennessee. He

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Speaker 3: was kind of one of those like guys who you

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Speaker 3: you hate to see that, hate to see that. First

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Speaker 3: time he can come back is October twentieth against Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: This is one of those suspensions though, and this happens

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Speaker 1: later in Guy's career that I always think you're going

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Speaker 1: So it's a shame at a position where yeah, they

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Speaker 1: signed fully fought to Kassi, they have him, settle Mario Edwards.

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Speaker 1: They're thin there but a thirty four year old getting

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Speaker 1: the first six games of the season off like isn't

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Speaker 1: the worst thing. And yeah, he's one of those you know,

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Speaker 1: if you know ball, you know Diniko Atri. He's been

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Speaker 1: a great player and he used to be on the Colts.

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Speaker 1: And now the Colts unfortunately got some bad news. They

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Speaker 1: lost Samson Ebacom for the season. He tore his achilles.

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Speaker 1: I hate that we're always leading the show with news

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Speaker 2: Really good pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: You saw him when he was with the Rams Jordan,

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Speaker 1: and that's a big loss for the Colts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was used in the changeup package in La

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Speaker 3: he's a great dude, a great player. They're really I know,

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Speaker 3: I join you, Greg and being really excited to see

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Speaker 3: what this Colt's front line is going to do this year.

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Speaker 3: Obviously that's a huge loss and Layatu Latu is gonna

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Speaker 3: early on without somebody like Sampson who could mix it

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Speaker 1: I love Layatu Latu coming into the draft. He was

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Speaker 1: the first defensive player taking right, which is which is wild,

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Speaker 1: and I thought he deserved it to be and it

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Speaker 1: was a surprise that it happened that way. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: up the news Taylor Decker signed a new contract with

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Speaker 1: the Lions. I think it was thirty one point eight

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Speaker 1: And again they're investing in the trenches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty million a year for your guard, like one

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at this list of their top five top

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Speaker 3: And then Piney Sewell, who they took care of earlier

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Speaker 3: this season. What I love about this Lions team and

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Speaker 3: how they're built, among many things, is they're telling you

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Speaker 3: They're going to have a couple of really great skill

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Speaker 3: and they're going to be physically dominant upfront. So now

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Speaker 3: identifying supplemental players in the middle to later rounds of

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Speaker 3: enough to maximize this contention window. So this is going

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Speaker 3: to be fun. I think the I love this for

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Speaker 1: This, with all these sign it reminds me a little

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Speaker 1: as one of the most analytically minded teams and they are.

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Speaker 1: And I think what the numbers say is invest in

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Speaker 1: the players who weigh the most. And they've always paid

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Speaker 1: and it's worked out for them. It's going to work

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Speaker 1: out for the Lions. Shout out to Bob Quinn, the

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Speaker 1: good career. And I think that's smart what you said

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Speaker 1: about the Lions. The Lions could almost fit into this segment.

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Speaker 1: I weirdly, I don't think we've talked a lot about

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Speaker 1: guess before we jump in, you got any Lions pop.

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Speaker 1: You just can't stop smiling today.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy I'm at football, you.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for the Lions for me?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I do have one more thing for the Lions

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Speaker 3: for you, because again, I love how this team is built.

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Speaker 3: I love how they've gone about like really identifying young

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Speaker 3: us they clearly intended to pay. That's like I said,

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Speaker 3: that's a tight rope walk, and you want everyone to

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Speaker 3: cohesive product. So it's like you want the guys you

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Speaker 1: There, little Corney, little footballly. But you know, this is

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Speaker 1: this is the league. Every team has to have a slogan.

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Speaker 1: I forget whose slogan it is this year, it's resilience,

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Speaker 3: I got to tell you. I'm out here at RAMS.

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Speaker 3: I know you'll be out here in a couple of days. Greg.

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Speaker 3: You know, you guys successfully and beautifully shamed Sean McVay

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the new slogans. But yeah, they

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Speaker 1: really on the defense, the defensive line. That's where I

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Speaker 3: Of radar safety. They can move him.

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Speaker 1: he'll be in the slot sometimes, but they're trying to

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Speaker 1: In practice, those three players to me have very high

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Speaker 1: ceilings and very low floors in terms of talent and

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Speaker 1: I want to talk teams. Oh, you have four cards.

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Speaker 3: Think Greg's in his head. Don't get Greg in his head.

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Speaker 3: We need them, we need them loose, we need them

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Speaker 2: Okay, wow. I do think the Jets not talked about

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Speaker 3: You know what, we haven't really talked about the Jets

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Speaker 3: think that's what Marcus mariot is for him is the

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Speaker 3: on ramp, and I like that.

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Speaker 2: A regular season game.

437
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Speaker 3: I think if you're really run heavy to start, and

438
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Speaker 3: we'll see. Because I like you, I don't believe that

439
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 3: this whole first team reps thing for Mariota. I don't

440
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Speaker 3: think it last. I mean, Jaden is too electric of

441
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Speaker 3: a player to to be behind long. All I'm saying,

442
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 3: because we've got the entire month of August here, Greg, Like,

443
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Speaker 3: all I'm saying is a light, a nice little on

444
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Speaker 3: ramp into your first professional season. You see more and

445
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 3: more franchises, more and more organizations trying that trying to

446
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Speaker 3: walk that perfect balance between play the guy you believe in,

447
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Speaker 3: play the guy you drafted this high, and also make

448
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Speaker 3: sure he's not just like jumping in a frozen lake

449
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Speaker 3: at the very beginning. We've seen this, We've seen this franchise,

450
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Speaker 3: ruined quarterbacks, We've seen lots franchise I know, and that's

451
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I know, and that's what I'm saying.

452
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Speaker 3: I think they're trying to walk the line of make

453
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Speaker 3: sure he's getting all of the steps in, make sure

454
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Speaker 3: he's truly feeling comfortable with all of these things and

455
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Speaker 3: his body is where it needs to be. Just do

456
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Speaker 3: it the right way, and I think all of us

457
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Speaker 3: want that. For Jada Daniels. We'd love to see him

458
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Speaker 3: right out of the gate, the starter, you know, in

459
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Speaker 3: week one, and I think he's got the weapons to

460
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Speaker 3: do it. They might, They'll probably have a pretty solid

461
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Speaker 3: run game. I'm worried about this offensive line as it

462
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Speaker 3: seems to be the chance.

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Speaker 1: Let me, let me mention the offensive one because at

464
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Speaker 1: practice this week, really the only consistent starters are Tyler

465
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Speaker 1: Biadis from Dallas. He's fine in Dallas, not like a

466
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Speaker 1: plus starter, but they trust him. And then Sam caused

467
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Speaker 1: me at right guard, and after that it's like injuries

468
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Speaker 1: and rotating guys, and Cornelius Lucas is either left or

469
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Speaker 1: right tackles, and you could say it's early in camp.

470
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Speaker 1: We're trying to right find the right five. But the

471
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Speaker 1: names there aren't inspiring. Andrew Wiley, who is with the Chiefs,

472
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Speaker 1: it's not inspiring. And all the teams that are saying

473
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Speaker 1: that are the teams with no talent, So like, yeah,

474
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Speaker 1: you can say, like we're trying to find the right five,

475
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Speaker 1: that's that's worrisome. The positive spin before we move on

476
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Speaker 1: from the Commanders would be Johan Dotson has a has

477
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Speaker 1: a step to go up, I still think, and so

478
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Speaker 1: that's a good one too, I think. And then the

479
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Speaker 1: back seven on defense with dan Quinn is gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know, Bobby Wagner and Frankie Luvu two really smart

481
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Speaker 1: players you can do some things with. And the secondary

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Speaker 1: has a lot of guys and give dan Quinn a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys I think that have a chance to

484
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Speaker 1: be a little underrated. Benjamin Saint just is solid. Mike

485
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Speaker 1: Sanders still is one of my favorite players in the draft.

486
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Speaker 1: A slot corner, Emmanuel Forbes put on fifteen pounds this

487
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Speaker 1: offseason and yet still it's still like one hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy five. I mean, he is the skinniest cornerback in

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Speaker 1: the league. But Michael Davis, like Jeremy Chins there, Derek Forrest.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying a lot of names, but they are

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Speaker 1: names I think are capable. And dan Quinn showed in

492
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Speaker 1: Dallas he is good at getting guys all in the

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Speaker 1: same page right away, so I think they can get

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Speaker 1: more out of the secondary. I think there could be

495
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Speaker 1: a good wide receiver nomination this is not going to

496
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Speaker 1: be a playoff team, but they could.

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Speaker 2: Be more fun.

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Speaker 3: Two very quick things I want to point out before

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Speaker 3: we move on is a bunch of these players in

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Speaker 3: the secondary, either from other teams or are smart, are versatile,

501
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Speaker 3: and they hit really damn hard, like Frankie Luvu and

502
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Speaker 3: Jeremy Chin. Watch out because they're going to take your

503
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Speaker 3: head off. And I think that this is gonna this

504
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Speaker 3: is old school, vintage dan Quinn, right, guys in a

505
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Speaker 3: defensive backfield that can hit the brakes off a car, right,

506
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Speaker 3: And I think that this is going to be really

507
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Speaker 3: interesting to watch. I love Frankie Luvu's game. I think

508
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Speaker 3: he's an outstanding player. Pairing him with Bobby Wagner, you'll

509
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Speaker 3: notice that most of these position groups, barring the offensive

510
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Speaker 3: line that we talked about and barring some other areas,

511
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Speaker 3: they've really paired like a core culture guy, like they

512
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Speaker 3: have a lot more work to do this Commander's franchise

513
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Speaker 3: than just the product that they put on the field.

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Speaker 3: You see Austin Eckler, you see Bobby Wagner, Marcus Mariota, guys,

515
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Speaker 3: culture guys, core guys who can help dan Quinn and

516
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Speaker 3: Adam Peters build what they want, and Adam Peters just

517
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Speaker 3: went about gutting the entire front off. He made hires

518
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Speaker 3: in the analytics department and also in his front office

519
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Speaker 3: personnel from the Lions, the forty nine ers and the Ravens,

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Speaker 3: And all I have on my notes for that is

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Speaker 3: the word good.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's a little overlooked how much of

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Speaker 1: a gutting happened here. Everyone is new on the roster

525
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Speaker 1: in the organization. I know Deron Payne and Jonathan Allen.

526
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Speaker 1: That is a great defensive tackle combination that is there.

527
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Speaker 1: But other than that, Ron Rivera, who's gonna be working

528
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Speaker 1: with us at a NFL network he announced on Monday.

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Speaker 1: I heard he's asking about how he can get on

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Speaker 1: a podcast. So maybe, well, I know you're you're you

531
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Speaker 1: know him from your time, try to have him on

532
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Speaker 1: his team is kind of gone and this is starting

533
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Speaker 1: from scratch, and so there's just a lot to do there,

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Speaker 1: a lot to do in this segment still, Jordan, teams

535
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Speaker 1: we haven't talked about enough. And you know what's going

536
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Speaker 1: to be sad is you have multiple note cards here

537
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Speaker 1: and like, I think we only got time for one

538
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Speaker 1: more team Okay, I'm gonna have to make it stinks

539
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Speaker 1: to be the team that isn't talked about enough, that

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Speaker 1: isn't going to be talked about in the teams that

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Speaker 1: aren't talked enough.

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Speaker 2: Segment that Man, I love it.

543
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Speaker 3: It's so meta. Wait, I'm gonna make you pick because

544
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Speaker 3: I've gotten no you pick, you pick, No, No, I'm

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Speaker 3: holding the cards.

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Speaker 2: Greg, pick a card which is more interesting.

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Speaker 3: They're both very interesting.

548
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Speaker 2: Just pick the bucks for for a specific I have

549
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Speaker 2: a I have a specific reason.

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Speaker 3: Let it be known, Raiders fans, this was Greg's choice.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk about you know.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be at Raiders camp next week and we

553
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Speaker 1: can spend some good quality time with the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. When you see Greg blew that band, he didn't

555
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Speaker 3: want to talk about you today.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Sean uh, the man at Chargers camp

558
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Speaker 1: who said he was listing to NFL Daily on the

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Speaker 1: way up, said, I Uh, he knew I was going

560
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Speaker 1: to be there, and then kind of a little weird,

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Speaker 1: but maybe a little weird, said he sort of staked out.

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Speaker 1: He saw me going to the to the Porta Patti area,

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Speaker 1: and I think they waited outside for me to to

564
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Speaker 1: come come back out and say hi and say he

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Speaker 1: was a fan. So that actually is I oh, I'm

566
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Speaker 1: looking people are listening to the show. But that's the

567
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Speaker 1: first confirmed fan of it.

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Speaker 3: That's so nice. Shout out to Sean and I hope

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Speaker 3: Greg washed his hands there.

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Speaker 1: Of course, those are a tough scene in those pies.

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Speaker 1: Let's yeah, let's do the bucks. Give me your best

572
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Speaker 1: stuff on the bucks.

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Speaker 3: Chris Godwin in the slot I think is going to

574
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Speaker 3: be overall some of the best stuff on the bucks.

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Speaker 3: I also loved you guys mentioned it a little bit

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Speaker 3: in Monday mornings episode of NFL Daily which I listened to.

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Speaker 2: Don't say that that means we talked about him on.

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Speaker 3: But you only talked about it like a very small amount.

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Speaker 3: Because I really do love this receiving Corps. I think

580
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Speaker 3: people forget that Liam Cohen is the offensive coordinator over there.

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Speaker 3: Liam Cohen worked a lot in the early stages of

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Speaker 3: Cooper Cup when he was doing a lot more stuff

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Speaker 3: out of the specific slot role before he moved into

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Speaker 3: this like hybrid slot f player who did a lot.

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Speaker 3: He's always done a lot in the blocking game and

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Speaker 3: all that. I think he really wants to see if

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Speaker 3: they can unlock Chris Godwin. It's it's very very rare

588
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Speaker 3: to have ever have a season in twenty twenty one

589
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Speaker 3: like Cooper Cup had, but it has been brought up

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Speaker 3: a few times as sort of an aspiration, a goal

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Speaker 3: to at least have some of that style of production,

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Speaker 3: a do it all player. You know. Chris Godwin is

593
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Speaker 3: like quietly second on this in this franchise and receiving yard,

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Speaker 3: you know. And Mike Evans obviously with ten consecutive thousand

595
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Speaker 3: yard seasons, is still there. And I really liked, you know,

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Speaker 3: as you know, I got to see a lot of

597
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Speaker 3: the scouting process this year. Greg. Everybody liked Jalen McMillan.

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Speaker 3: Everybody really liked him. And I think all of these

599
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: players they give Baker Mayfield just this diversity of target.

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Speaker 3: They can do a lot of things. Mike Evans is

601
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Speaker 3: obviously like your your ex guy, but like the other

602
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: two like they can go do a lot of different things.

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Speaker 3: And Chris Godwin, I still have faith. I know the

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Speaker 3: injury a couple of years ago and people wondered if

605
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Speaker 3: he could come back from that, but I've always admired

606
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: his game. I love this position change for him, and

607
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Speaker 3: as the Baker Sons continues, I do think that Liam

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Speaker 3: Cohen who go away.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it'll continue it. I

610
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Speaker 1: don't know if he's put two years together in a row,

611
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Speaker 1: so that worries me, but he's set up for it.

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Speaker 1: This Bucks team, I hear Bucks fans out there that

613
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Speaker 1: feel like they don't get talked about, they don't get

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Speaker 1: the respect.

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Speaker 2: They were in the divisional round last year.

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Speaker 1: There's always there's always one team like the Giants a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago that you know, they make the

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Speaker 1: divisional round and just no one thinks they're going to

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Speaker 1: get back, and Bucks fans will be like, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: we've won the division three straight times. Okay, let's tour

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Speaker 1: with Tom Brady and he's not there. And the other

622
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: one last year you tied, You tied at nine and

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Speaker 1: eight and you won the tie breaker and it was

624
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Speaker 1: great and you were entertaining the watch by the end

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Speaker 1: of the year and you made the Lions sweat a

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Speaker 1: little bit in that game.

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Speaker 2: I think, are they the favorites in the division?

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Speaker 3: I don't have a strong Falcons are close.

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Speaker 1: I think I don't have a strong feeling, but I

630
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: think they're closer to being the favorites or are the

631
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Speaker 1: favorites than what the Desert says at best, I think

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Speaker 1: the Falcons are kind of even with them. Here's where

633
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: I would worry, just the pas rush. You know, they

634
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Speaker 1: haven't had Randy Gregory show up to camp. He's one

635
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: where I don't necessarily expect him to play for the Bucks.

636
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: And so you have Yayad Diabi as a second year

637
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: player who got a lot of cleanup sacks. You have

638
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Speaker 1: a rookie braswell. You have Joe Tryon not a lot

639
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Speaker 1: of pass rush. The good thing is the strength of

640
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Speaker 1: that defense. Canty and Vidavead next to each other. Could

641
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Speaker 1: they have career years together at the same time, because

642
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Speaker 1: if that happens, the whole rest of the defense takes

643
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Speaker 1: care of itself.

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Speaker 2: They're playing Daniel's week one.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Todd Bowles versus a rookie quarterback, It's

646
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Speaker 1: possible if those two guys play their best seasons at

647
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Speaker 1: the same time together. That alone, with you know, reasonable

648
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Speaker 1: play otherwise, which they'll have, and a great coach, that's

649
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Speaker 1: enough to be dangerous because those two are crazy. And

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Speaker 1: I was really interested when Cansey said he looks at

651
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Speaker 1: Cameron Jordan as a player he wants to model himself after,

652
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Speaker 1: which that surprised me. But they are relatively similar body types.

653
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, so you got those two guys, and

654
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: I think the offensive line has a chance.

655
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: To be really good.

656
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: Quietly, they've they've drafted well on the offensive line, and

657
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: so you have a good offensive line.

658
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: You have those two guys. They got a chance. I

659
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: believe in you.

660
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: Bucks. They got to get Tristan Wurf's figured out. They

661
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: got to get this.

662
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: But he's there, he's at camp.

663
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 3: He's there. There's no reason to believe that it doesn't

664
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 3: get worked through being there, being present. And then they

665
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: seem to have come. Bucks reporters Greg Allman does a

666
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: great job over for Fox Sports. There's sort of this

667
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: chatter that there they've figured out some sort of happy

668
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: medium of what he will participate in. Again, someone like

669
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Speaker 3: of Worf's caliber. I'm not exactly worried, super worried if

670
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: they missed them.

671
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: They already said their GM Jason Light said he will

672
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: be the highest paid tackle in the league.

673
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: So when that happens, it's like, what are we talking about?

674
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: That means they've already offered him a contract that makes

675
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: him the highest paid tackle in the league. It's the

676
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: same thing with Jefferson. When I heard that, I was like, Okay,

677
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: this is over.

678
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: It'll be fine.

679
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: It will happen.

680
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: Raiders dollars, set dollars into pounds. Makes sense.

681
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: You got to learn from Dwayne Wade who had the

682
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: His pronouns are he and him, which I like the

683
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: first time, but then he went back to it four times.

684
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: So that's not mine.

685
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: You gotta sprinkle in your catchphrase, but it's not mine.

686
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: I'm citing a source on this one.

687
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: You used it, it's yours.

688
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: Now, Jordan, get to get to practice, get out of

689
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: the pitching cage, and uh yeah, I'm making you work

690
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: overtime this week because you will be with us on

691
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: Friday show.

692
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: So I am looking forward to that.

693
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: We'll have some content from RAMS camp, but we'll talk

694
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: about other stuff and yeah, after the break, I'm really

695
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: excited for you guys to hear a little bit more

696
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: about the Los Angeles Chargers this season and Jim Harbaugh

697
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: king Charger by Jordan.

698
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Speaker 6: Bye, there's another really good day, just great day for football.

699
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 6: The patch, no pads. I mean, I just look at

700
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 6: how much time do I have today? You know, today

701
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 6: practice gets to be an hour and forty five minutes,

702
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 6: and you know that's that's what I look forward to.

703
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 6: It's an our hour and forty five minutes of a

704
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 6: pure joy for me. I mean, the distractions of the

705
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 6: modern world cease. There are no I have no cell

706
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 6: phones to answer. I just to get to go out there, sunshining,

707
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 6: cool breeze coming in off of the ocean, and uh,

708
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 6: get to interact, get to interact with the players, the coaches,

709
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 6: all all of us who have a love and passion

710
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 6: for the game of football. So uh yeah, it's just

711
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 6: uh it's just a gift, you know. And then any

712
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 6: kind of and then the excitement, the work, the challenge,

713
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 6: you know, all energy all goes into making it a

714
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 6: better day day today than than yesterday. So uh, tomorrow,

715
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 6: get two hours, two hours of that pure joy where

716
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 6: I don't have to be inside. I get to get

717
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 6: to be out the.

718
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: Pure joy of training camp.

719
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: They put the pads on on Monday with the Chargers

720
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: for the first time. I was at Chargers training camp

721
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: and we're gonna hear from Hayden Hurst, their tight end.

722
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: I talked to him for a couple of minutes. It

723
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: was very nice to lend his time. Then you'll hear

724
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: a longer interview with JK. Dobbins, who I really enjoyed,

725
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 1: and then will wrap up the show with Matt money Smith,

726
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: our friend. But just a few takeaways before we get

727
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: to that. From the day at Chargers Camp. That pure

728
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: joy that Harbaugh is talking about, you could see it.

729
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: This is he's a king. He's the king of the

730
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: Chargers and this is his kingdom. The Bolt is this

731
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: new training facility that they set up. It's beautiful and

732
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: I gotta admit it's hard to imagine Brandon Staley presiding

733
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: over this. It's like he wouldn't be worthy of it.

734
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: It's a really nice setup. I give the Chargers credit.

735
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: The weight rooms outside it's very cool because it's near

736
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: the ocean, as Harbaugh mentioned, and it's seventy degrees. They

737
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: have a great setup in the building where they have

738
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: the meeting rooms, and then right outside the meeting rooms

739
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: there's these big patios where they can actually do the

740
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: walk throughs there so they don't even have to go downstairs.

741
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 2: And you just saw Harbaugh soaking it up. That joy

742
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: was obvious.

743
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: He's so in the mix in these practices where he's

744
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: breaking it up, he's talking to them, he's running some plays,

745
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,959
Speaker 1: and then afterwards he's spending all these times like having

746
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: deep conversations with fans, like really engaging with them, and

747
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: you just see a guy who is enjoying life. I'm

748
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: fascinated to see how this goes. But it is a

749
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: totally different vibe around this Chargers team. A couple things

750
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: just from practice Number one, JK. Dobbins, who will be

751
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: on the show, was the first team running back, got

752
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: a ton of reps.

753
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: There's no Gus Edwards out there.

754
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: He looks really explosive coming off a torn achilles which

755
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: was suffered early last season, much better than I would expect.

756
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have a big role on this team.

757
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: Quentin Johnson caught the first two catches of eleven on elevens.

758
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: He's in some lineups where he's just two wide receivers

759
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: on the field. He's going to be a part of

760
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: this offense. Maybe he's rotated in with DJ Shark and

761
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: the two tight ends obviously Josh Palmer, but they're trying

762
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: to get something out of Quinton Johnson. The defense dominated

763
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: the day though for the most part, Justin Herbert I

764
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: think was frustrated. A lot of pass rush, a lot

765
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: of hands on the ball, a couple near interceptions. They

766
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: have a deep pass rush with the Chargers, like Chris

767
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: rump I was noticing was their fifth rusher.

768
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: He's a good player to be their fifth rusher. So

769
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on Justin Herbert.

770
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: Ray shn Slater was out there, but just for a

771
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: couple snaps in team drills, and yeah, it's a part

772
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: of the offseason where the defense, at least for today,

773
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: was dominating.

774
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: Finally, it's a unique setup where the.

775
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: La Metro train is going by multiple times, like every

776
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: ten minutes across this practice field. It's a very unique setup.

777
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: I put it on my Instagram, this ghost train. You know,

778
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: other teams could could put, you know, their spies out

779
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: there to see what's going on at Chargers camp.

780
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 2: But it was a cool setup.

781
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: And I'm looking forward to you hearing these interviews and

782
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: everything I talked about with Matt money Smith, and it's

783
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: gonna be different for NFL daily. We're gonna hit the rams,

784
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna hit the raiders. I know you feel like

785
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: it's a West Coast bias. I am gonna hit all

786
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: thirty two teams with a deep dive, and so we'll

787
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: have a board, we'll keep track of it. These are

788
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: just the teams I can get to. They're not putting

789
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: me on a plane. So it is good to get

790
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: out to see some football. I was feeling that joy today.

791
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: I hope that comes through. Here are my interviews with

792
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst and JK. Dobbins and then Matt money Smith.

793
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: What's the different vibes between the Harbaugh coaches?

794
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 5: Very similar philosophies.

795
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 7: They're all about working hard, you know, earning everything that

796
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 7: you get, which I think that's football to its core.

797
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 4: So you know, I love it and I respect it.

798
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: I mean I they feel about as football to its

799
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: core as it gets. Like our most head coach. I've

800
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: been to a lot of training camp practices, and Jim

801
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: Harbaugh seems like he is in the mix about as

802
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: much as any head coach is going.

803
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 4: To be in the mix.

804
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: I almost was a little worried for him, like that

805
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna get taken down on some of the back pedals.

806
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 7: No, he hops in the drills, he's got the cleats on,

807
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 7: he's over there flipping sleds with us. You know, Harves

808
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 7: doesn't mess around. Man, that's awesome.

809
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: You were signed here by by Joe Hortz. Hortiz rather

810
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: you mentioned that the GM of the Chargers. I noticed

811
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: they brought you and Will Disley in around the same time,

812
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: and there's questions about, like, what the what is this

813
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: offense going to be? The wide receiver group is some

814
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: somewhat uncertain, and I thought they were telegraphing a little

815
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: bit when they brought in you two guys at the

816
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: same time that they'll probably be playing a lot of

817
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: twelve personnel with two tight ends on the field. You've

818
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: obviously done that before. Like does that get you going?

819
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: What kind of advantages do you think it is to

820
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: have two tight ends on the field.

821
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's exciting obviously, It's you know, it's

822
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 7: a tight end centric offense. You know, I've been in

823
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 7: it before, you know, with me, Nick Mark, Max, Darren Waller.

824
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 7: You know, we all did it in Baltimore, so I'm

825
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 7: very familiar with how this thing kind of function. It'll

826
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 7: be cool, cool to do it with Justin, cool to

827
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 7: do it with Will. Just kind of changing up a

828
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 7: little bit obviously different skill sets you know that we

829
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 7: all bring to the table, but same philosophy. We running

830
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 7: early and often and see what we got after that?

831
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: What's what's it? What's justin been?

832
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: Like you've been around some some great quarterbacks obviously really

833
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: now that they think of it, it's like you've been

834
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: with three of the top quarterbacks in the entire league,

835
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: and Lamar and Joe Burrow and Herbert, Like what what's

836
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: unique about Herbo out of that group?

837
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 7: I mean just just by looking at him, his stature,

838
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 7: you know, he's very impressive. It looks like he could

839
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 7: be in our room as well. You know, he's like

840
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 7: six six, big, big dude, live arm and he can

841
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 7: put it anywhere on the field.

842
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 5: Just his personality is great.

843
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 7: It's kind of infectious to be around a guy like

844
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 7: that who just loves the game, you know, very easy going,

845
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 7: fun loving kind of guy, just wants to be one

846
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 7: of the boys. So you know, it's it's fun to

847
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 7: be with a guy like.

848
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: We don't get a lot of Herbert personality, Taco, though

849
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 1: I did see him. He he celebrated a one touchdown

850
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: you guys had there today. I haven't seen a lot

851
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: of that, Like Yeah, what what is he like?

852
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 5: He's just one of the guys.

853
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 7: You know, I think the tight ends offensive line, they're

854
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 7: just most normal, I guess you could say, position wise,

855
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 7: just regular guys. And I think Justin loves just being

856
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 7: one of the guys. I don't know if he necessarily

857
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 7: loves being Justin Herbert all the time and getting all

858
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 7: the attention. I think he likes to go under the

859
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 7: raidar and just kind of hang out with the boys.

860
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: So then that begs the question, like who's the what's

861
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: the most abnormal position group?

862
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: Then on the team, if you have to rank them

863
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: top three.

864
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 7: Wide receivers and dbs, okay, they kind of like, you know,

865
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 7: they love the Instagram post stuff like that, which is cool.

866
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 7: You know, they get the touchdowns and the picks and

867
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 7: all the cool stuff. So we'll let those guys have it.

868
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: Looking forward to seeing you get some touchdowns. Obviously be

869
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: blocking a lot of running for this Chargers team. I'm

870
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 1: excited to see what they do. Thank you, hayden Hurst.

871
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 4: Appreciate it.

872
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: Man there appreciating me. All Right, we are here with JK. Dobbins,

873
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: A man I am excited to talk about. He was

874
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: excited to walk over here. I have already heard from

875
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: around the building here. You're just like you got the

876
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: best personal you get the most energy of like anyone

877
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: in that running back room.

878
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: Now you got no answer for that?

879
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I think that's the truth. Yeah, I

880
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 5: think it's the truth.

881
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: Is that?

882
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: Like, I'm fascinated by running backs because seeing you and

883
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: Gust together to see the two different types of body

884
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: types that can both excel though and speaking as a

885
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: very small man myself much much smaller than you. Uh Like,

886
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: is that cause you're like a shorter guy? You got

887
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: to make them hear you, you know? Is that a

888
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: Napoleon thing?

889
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: Nah?

890
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 5: No, I make them feel me. I make everyone feel

891
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 5: me first, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I might

892
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 5: be shorter, but I think i'm yeah a little bit

893
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 5: of power to me. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

894
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 5: But you know, the looks looks looks so nice to

895
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 5: have too. You could be a big, tall guy, you know,

896
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 5: but I like the way I love.

897
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: To absolutely Yeah, I'm no, Like you can look like

898
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: me and then you'd be in trouble. You went out

899
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: there today in pads the first time, Like, how'd that

900
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: feel for you? Coming off you know, the injury that

901
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: you have last year another another step to put the

902
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: pads on and get get to real football today.

903
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 5: It's a blessing, you know.

904
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 2: Uh.

905
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 5: The injury I had in the first game was pretty

906
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 5: it was it was, for lack of a better words,

907
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 5: weird because it was just a regular tackle. You know,

908
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 5: I don't know why I gave out. It didn't hurt

909
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 5: none of that, But it was the It was the

910
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 5: lower's plan, you know, it was. It was the plan

911
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 5: of Jesus to give me that so I can get here. It'

912
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 5: to where I feel amazing. I feel so good, like

913
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 5: with paz On, I feel I feel like I'm in

914
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 5: college shape, you know what I'm saying. So I don't know,

915
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 5: maybe this, maybe the Achilles injury was to make my

916
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 5: legs stronger, make my my feet quicker, and make me

917
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 5: more fresh so I can co have this huge year

918
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 5: that I know I'm going.

919
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: To have this Ooh, I like it.

920
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: Talk to me about the huge year because yeah, you're

921
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: you're out there with the first team, to my eye,

922
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: looking explosive, getting a lot of reps obviously there with

923
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: justin like are you ahead of where you expected to be?

924
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: And just how you're feeling. Tell me about that huge year.

925
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 5: I'm right, I'm right where I where I thought I

926
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 5: was gonna be. You know, I put in the work.

927
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 5: I'm I'm I knew when I when I had the Achilles,

928
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 5: I wasn't down about it. I told some people in

929
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 5: the locker room for the Ravens, it was like, I'm

930
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 5: built for this, Like this is nothing. This will be

931
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 5: like an echo sprant. I'll be back like that which

932
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 5: I was. I was running sprinting at five months.

933
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 3: You know.

934
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 5: Some people say it's unheard of. I don't know. I

935
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 5: don't care because I'm gonna get this work in and

936
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 5: I know where I need to where I need to be,

937
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 5: and that's why I'm going going higher than what I was,

938
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 5: you know. And so it's been great, you know. And

939
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna keep working, keep getting better, and keep

940
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 5: feeling better as well.

941
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: Right, And you obviously landed with a team that's got

942
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: some big boys on the offensive line, especially at tackle,

943
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: that has the two tight ends out there.

944
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: You got a big smile on.

945
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: I fits it's going to run the ball, so it

946
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: should be a running backs paradise, Like are you looking

947
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: forward to that? Oh?

948
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

949
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to see how we jail together. You know,

950
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 5: we just got to keep building our chemistry, me and

951
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 5: the old line. You know, we gotta we gotta see

952
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 5: everything together. Like I can't have different eyes than than

953
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 5: Zion or or whoever's that did no tackle. I can't

954
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 5: have different eyes than Bradley Boseman or whoever's a center,

955
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 5: or different eyes than Slater. You know, we all got

956
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 5: to jail together. Have this great, great chemistry so we

957
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 5: can we can run that. We can run that thing.

958
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: So we had back when you were coming out as

959
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: a prospect. We have a guy that used to come

960
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: on our old show around the NFL. His name is

961
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: Spice Rack, and he was so big on you coming

962
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: out of college. And he said, you just got to

963
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: watch JK. Dobbins because he reminds me of a young

964
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: Emmett Smith. And I said, oh that you don't hear

965
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: that comparison too often. So ever, since he put that

966
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: in my head, I watch you and I do kind

967
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: of see that in terms of the vision and being

968
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: in sync. You mentioned with your offensive lineman, which Emmett

969
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: was was so good at, Like, do you have guys

970
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: that you look at a little bit to model you

971
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: And what do you think about that Emmett call.

972
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 5: I think that's a good call. You know, both shorter guys.

973
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 5: So when I was in when I was at Ohio State,

974
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 5: I used to see Emmitt. You know, he used to

975
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 5: be on the sidelines, and he's a great guy. I

976
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 5: love him, you know. So whenever I whenever I hear

977
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 5: that comparison, because I've heard that comparison a lot, you know,

978
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 5: I it gives me a reason to be motivated because

979
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 5: I know him and I know he's a great guy,

980
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 5: and I know he's number one all time on the

981
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 5: on the on the rushing yards right right, correct, So

982
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 5: I want to be like that. I want to I

983
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 5: want to be number one, like right now. Yes, I've

984
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 5: had unfortunate injuries right like right now, no one knows.

985
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 5: No people know a little bit because they saw a

986
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 5: little bit from what I've put out there. But I

987
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 5: truly believe that I can be legendary.

988
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and you you put up the numbers when

989
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: you when you've been out there six yards per carry,

990
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: five point seven yards per carry, like when you've been

991
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: out there for the time we got left, I want

992
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: to kind of hear through your eyes what you see.

993
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: I want to first ask you before the snap, what

994
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: what do you looking for as a running back before

995
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: the snap?

996
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 5: Well, I don't want to tell everything, but first first

997
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 5: I'm I'm gonna look at the D line. I gotta

998
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 5: see what they're what kind of front they're in, you know,

999
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 5: so I can know where, you know where to anticipate

1000
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 5: the play going, you know. And then I'm looking at

1001
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 5: the safeties to watch what kind of blitters they might

1002
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 5: bring if we're in pass protection, you know. So, and

1003
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 5: then after that it's just my killersty comes in and

1004
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, nobody's tackling me, let's get if

1005
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 5: I get the ball, no one's tackling me, let's take

1006
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 5: it to the house.

1007
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: And what kind of keys are you doing after? Because

1008
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: that's it's why I like watching you run. You seem

1009
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: to somehow slow down the game a little bit. My

1010
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: favorite running back of all time is Frank Or, who

1011
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: to me, had this way of seeing things ahead of

1012
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: time and getting small through holes. I think you got

1013
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: a little bit of that in you, and I want

1014
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: to know, like, what is it after the snap that

1015
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: that you're seeing?

1016
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 5: Well, I like him. I'm slowing the game down. But

1017
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 5: that starts with the pre snap. You know I'm slowing

1018
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 5: if I see what I see on the defense, that

1019
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,479
Speaker 5: slows it down. When I get the ball, it's slow.

1020
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 5: I'm taking my time. I'm pretty fast guy, so I

1021
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 5: know I can restart faster than the most defensive players.

1022
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 5: So and I appreciate you forgiving me. These guys are

1023
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 5: the legendary that you're throwing out.

1024
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you were on our You know, I

1025
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: don't want to get into the fantasy football of it all,

1026
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: but I brought you up as someone to watch. Definitely

1027
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: this year, I'll rap with the last quarterback he played with,

1028
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Now you're playing with Justin Herbert. I know

1029
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's not Lamar, but you were front row to

1030
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: see like one of the greatest running quarterbacks of all time.

1031
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: Maybe compared just their running styles a little bit, and

1032
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: what you've seen out of Justin as a runner, because

1033
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: he can he can move for a big guy.

1034
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 5: Man, You know, Lamar, he's my brother.

1035
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 7: Man.

1036
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 5: I still talk to him to today. You know, I

1037
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 5: love him. That's my brother.

1038
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 4: He knows that.

1039
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 5: You know, nobody can run like Lamar in the league

1040
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 5: right now. But my man Justin, he's my brother as well.

1041
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 5: I love him as well. He's got more athleticism than

1042
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 5: people people know. You know, he can run and I

1043
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 5: saw that in college too. I remember one time I

1044
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 5: think it was like a rose boar or something. He

1045
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 5: like took it to the house and like that guy

1046
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 5: can run. I didn't know he can run, you know,

1047
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 5: so a little different. The bar's a lot a lot different,

1048
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 5: you know, with his moves and stuff. But they both

1049
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 5: got a leticism and Justin can do he can do

1050
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 5: it all.

1051
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: Okay, you said, big year, I'll let you go on

1052
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: this like you're throwing any numbers out there, you got

1053
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: any goals.

1054
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 5: In mind, I'll let you put your numbers out. I'll

1055
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 5: let everyone put their numbers out, and I bet all,

1056
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 5: I'll bet all beat those numbers that y'all put out.

1057
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm thinking like twelve hundred and thirteen hundred yards

1058
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 1: from scrimming something like that, because they want to share

1059
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: the ball a little bit. Gus is gonna get his

1060
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: work too. But you're looking you can still beat that.

1061
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: You're saying, yes, okay, I love it.

1062
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 2: JK.

1063
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: Dobbins, you heard it. One of my favorite running backs

1064
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: in the league. We'll be back after this with our

1065
00:48:52,719 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: friend Matt money Smith welcoming into the show. One of

1066
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: my favorite people, one of the funniest.

1067
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: People I know.

1068
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 4: That's two lies you've told three? What else?

1069
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 2: Okay? One of the best storytellers.

1070
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: If you're at a dinner with Matt money Smith and

1071
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: Dave Danischek, know that you will not get any words

1072
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: in edgewise, but you will be laughing the whole time.

1073
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: Matt money Smith, it's been a while.

1074
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great to see you. Greg. It's good to

1075
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 4: see out here at Charger Camp. It's exciting, right.

1076
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: It is impressive here that it's like just started like

1077
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: they did it right, taking a few years to get

1078
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: it going. But I can't wait to get my son

1079
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: out here. The whole thing is impressive at the Bowl,

1080
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: the team, it's exciting. You're you're coming out. You really

1081
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: see out and I feel bad for taking your time

1082
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: while old Herbert all good is out there.

1083
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: But let's hear about Herbert first, Like what do you see.

1084
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 5: So far this year?

1085
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: You were at the OTAs, you were at mini camps, Like,

1086
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: how do you think he fits with this?

1087
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 5: Often?

1088
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 4: Well, you know, today's first we're doing this first day

1089
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 4: of Patti practice, so it's kind of hard, you know,

1090
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 4: to to really kind of get any official football analysis

1091
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 4: in there. But what I've seen bouncing his step, I

1092
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 4: think he's beyond happy to have Shane Day back. Was

1093
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 4: kind of weird that he was pushed away in the

1094
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: first place. Those two had a real special bond and

1095
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 4: you know all the success he had, you know, early

1096
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 4: in his career, so I think, you know, that kind

1097
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 4: of I think opened the door. But you know, for

1098
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 4: a heck of a relationship between his head coach when

1099
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: he's like, look, before I hire a quarterback coach, who

1100
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 4: do you want and let's see if we can get him?

1101
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 4: And now Shane his back. So I think that helps.

1102
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 4: And I think it's important for people to remember, you know,

1103
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 4: people like you who do the Quarterback Index and the

1104
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 4: rankings and all those sort of things, that this is

1105
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 4: a guy that has not had the easiest path. His

1106
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 4: best year, in my opinion, was his first year because

1107
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 4: he had Shane Stikeen call in plays and you saw

1108
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 4: the magic that happened and how he utilized his skill

1109
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 4: set to maximize you know, what Justin Herbert can do

1110
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 4: out there. So I'm very excited for him to partner

1111
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 4: with not just Greg Roman, but Jim Harbaugh. I think

1112
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 4: it's going to be a real special relationship for him.

1113
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1114
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Speaker 1: One thing even just seeing the start of this practice,

1115
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: like Harbaugh is in the middle of everything, He's stopping

1116
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: the whole practice down to talk to everyone. The way

1117
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: they've built this team though, getting rid of the big names.

1118
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: That wide receiver. You got a rookie in McConkie. You

1119
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: have Quinton Johnson. I noticed that the first two catches there,

1120
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: and in teamwork here, like, how do you think that

1121
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: receiver situation works out? And then they brought in the

1122
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: tight ends We're gonna have Hayden Hurst on in a

1123
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: bit like how does this all look?

1124
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 4: I like it. I know people will say I'm biased,

1125
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 4: you know, because I've worked for the Chargers, but I

1126
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 4: think it's a really good collection for what Herbert does.

1127
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know what the top three

1128
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 4: will be. I don't know how often they're going to

1129
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 4: be in eleven. You know, they're probably going to be

1130
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 4: in a lot more twelve and just kind of watching

1131
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 4: one of the more interesting numbers to keep an eye

1132
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 4: on a seventy one McFadden who was drafted as a

1133
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 4: tackle guard center work, and now he is doing a

1134
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 4: lot of the Patrick Ricards stuff out there. So I

1135
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 4: think you're gonna see, you know, I don't know what

1136
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 4: the receiver rotation is going to look like. One thing

1137
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: I can tell you, though, is Lad McConkie's a problem.

1138
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 4: He is slippery and you are seeing dudes get their

1139
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 4: ankles broken every single day out there. The route running

1140
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 4: prowess that was celebrated as someone who was like a

1141
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 4: ten year vet that I don't think that was over

1142
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 4: selling him. That is certainly what his skill is, and

1143
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 4: that's a skill that Herbert loves.

1144
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 2: It's a lot to ask for rookie to be a one,

1145
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: but they don't really need it to be a one.

1146
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: They need to him to be one.

1147
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: But in terms of snaps, yeah, if I had to

1148
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: guess who gets the most snaps, it's probably him.

1149
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Josh Palmerfrey's healthy. He's like to me,

1150
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 4: he's wildly underrated. Anytime he had to step in for

1151
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 4: Mike Williams or Keenan Allen when they were hurt, he'd

1152
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 4: come up with one hundred yard game. If you look

1153
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 4: through his game logs you'll see yeah, you got the targets,

1154
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 4: and there is problem is you just have struggle with health.

1155
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 4: So if he stays healthy, I think he's unequivocal number one.

1156
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 4: And I kind of like the way it's built right.

1157
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 4: So Shark, you know, DJ Shark is your outside X

1158
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 4: and I think that allows McConkey, who we saw lineup.

1159
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 4: You were standing next to me a little bit on

1160
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 4: the outside for some of the early eleven on eleven's.

1161
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 4: I think you can be flexible with he and Josh

1162
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 4: and they can both really shine in either of those spots.

1163
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: You've you've been around just talking with the coaches and

1164
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: watching the practice. Just like, who who surprised you? I guess, like,

1165
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: who are some players on this team that you're into?

1166
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, so one just we were discussing before we walked

1167
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 4: over the sheer size of Joe Wall. You get it.

1168
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, yeah, I get this. This this makes sense.

1169
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 4: This is this is someone that is larger than you know,

1170
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 4: NFL players are larger than most humans, and this is

1171
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 4: a guy who's larger than most NFL players.

1172
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: It's humbling. I mean, these you had what did you

1173
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: say that if.

1174
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 4: This was a four thousand years ago, you and I

1175
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 4: would have some serious property.

1176
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: It would be dead.

1177
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: And I appreciate you throwing yourself into the same mix

1178
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: as me, but it's humbling. But uh, it is nice

1179
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: to be around these monstrous men. Uh defensively, like I

1180
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: don't know, like this is such a mystery box to

1181
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: me of like what this team is going to look like,

1182
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: how they're going to line up, and how these guys

1183
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: that they almost surprisingly to me came came back Joey

1184
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: Bosa and Khalil Mack fit in with with everyone else here.

1185
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 4: So I don't have I think the Edge group's gonna

1186
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 4: be great, you know, I think I'll be See I'm

1187
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 4: never going to project for bad health, so I'm assuming

1188
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 4: everyone's going to stay healthy. As crazy as that may sound.

1189
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 4: But if you have that rotation Tully and Bud dupre

1190
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 4: or starting edges on a lot of teams in the NFL.

1191
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 4: So to have that four and to try to keep

1192
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 4: them fresh the way coach Minter I think wants to

1193
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 4: rotate them, that's great. Secondary is kind of where we

1194
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 4: have our question marks and you might have a little

1195
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 4: battle at that nickel corner with John Taylor and the

1196
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 4: rookie tarheb Still who really kind of has flashed a

1197
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 4: little bit. They probably they need to find that second

1198
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 4: safety so they can really unlock Derwin. You know, Alowe's solid,

1199
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 4: you know, underrated because he's not really that flashy athlete,

1200
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 4: but just a very cerebral, smart player. So I think

1201
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 4: if they can find that second safety, unlocked Derwin and

1202
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 4: then beyond that Greg, I think it's going to be

1203
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 4: the linebackers. You know, if Junior Colson is what we

1204
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 4: think he can be as a rookie, you know, he

1205
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 4: had the penaciitis, so he's not been practicing. But I'm

1206
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 4: if there's one player I want to keep it, you know, Derwin,

1207
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 4: Joey all just push that stuff aside. There's one player

1208
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 4: I'd watch zero, Dyon Henley. I think that's that's your

1209
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 4: prototypical twenty twenty four NFL lineu backer with how fast

1210
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 4: and how athletic and also how strong he is.

1211
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: I fascinated by that because, like to me, you look

1212
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: at the teams that struggled in the playoffs, it's because

1213
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: their linebacker play stunk.

1214
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: This Chargers team got hurt by linebacker play.

1215
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: This is a team that I've been overly excited about

1216
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: a year year after I Yeah, last I took one

1217
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: year off, which was twenty twenty two, which it would

1218
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: have been fine.

1219
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: It was fine to take off.

1220
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, now they're I'm not saying they're under the radar

1221
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: or anything, but you've been here as a part of

1222
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: this move up to Los Angeles. Give me more, just

1223
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: the the high view of like Jim Harbaugh arrives here, Like,

1224
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: how does it feel you are part of the organization?

1225
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: Ultimately you're you're the play by play guy for the Chargers,

1226
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: And can they finally make dopes like me who think

1227
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 1: they're going to be great? Because now that I'm around

1228
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: it and I just see the uniform and this place

1229
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: is cool and Herbert is still Herbert. Now I'm kind

1230
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: of back in and I'm like, why not this team

1231
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: right now? It's Jim freaking Harba.

1232
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 4: That's what you just said it. I think that's exactly

1233
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 4: what it is. They needed someone to walk through that

1234
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 4: door that says I'm a winner. All right, you guys

1235
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 4: are very talented, but let's win. And that's what I

1236
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 4: do everywhere I go. So I think that's exactly what

1237
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 4: they needed. It feels like they're responding to that in

1238
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 4: terms of you know this so you'll see it today

1239
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 4: after practice they do what they call fourth quarter ot period,

1240
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 4: and you're talking about guys that are out here in

1241
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 4: the sun practicing for two hours. Today's full pads. Ben

1242
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 4: Herbert's gonna put them through bear crawls on their fingers

1243
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 4: and toes. They're gonna flip sleds, They're gonna drag the

1244
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 4: you know, they're gonna flip the sleds here. They're gonna

1245
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 4: drag those sleds over there. And it's like another twenty

1246
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 4: minutes and they're all jacked and geeked to do it

1247
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 4: because they believe it's kind of what you know, coaches

1248
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 4: is sort of preached that everybody's good and these things

1249
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 4: typically come down to the end of half and the

1250
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 4: end of games. Got to be able to outlast your opponent,

1251
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 4: and that's what that's all about. And they seem that

1252
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 4: they want it, you know, I mean, Herbert wants it,

1253
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 4: Derwin wants it. These leaders of this tiers a reason

1254
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 4: why Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack took pay cuts because

1255
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 4: they want it here. And I think they they're really

1256
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 4: buying in and they believe what he's what he's kind

1257
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 4: of pushing here.

1258
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I when I heard Bosa, who is a man

1259
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: of few words, kind of just mumble out, you know, like,

1260
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: well when he says it, we know it's gonna right,

1261
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: it matters, like we were, like, he's done it before.

1262
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: So if he says that, there's no doubting, and I'm

1263
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm immediately thinking, well, there there probably was some doubting.

1264
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: But we don't need to talk trash on. Who wasn't

1265
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: there before? You're not on your your fingers and toes.

1266
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: But I'm guessing you did some like, uh surfing this morning.

1267
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 4: Because I did surf this morning after he was in

1268
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 4: a quick session. Because up here some hot dad content.

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1270
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1271
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Speaker 4: You said I was funny, You said, uh, I don't

1272
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 4: remember what the other one was, that I was a

1273
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 4: good storytelling, good storyteller. And now I get the uh

1274
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 4: the good looking guy all eyes.

1275
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm not saying good looking, but the body. Yeah, for

1276
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: your for your age. I'm not gonna go for my age.

1277
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 4: There we go, because I am weird looking in the face.

1278
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 4: I absolutely accept.

1279
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: That Matt money Smith, thank you so much. That's going

1280
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: to be it for today's show. We will be back

1281
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: on Wednesday with Will Brinson looking forward to that show,

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Speaker 1: picking our guys for the twenty twenty fourteen