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Speaker 2: social bios O Joe. The Seahawks defeated the Bears sixty three.
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant picks off Caleb Williams on fourth and ten,
Speaker 2: ceiling the Seahawks victory. Should the Bears have kicked the
Speaker 2: fifty five or should the Bears have attempted a fifty
Speaker 2: seven yard field goal or try to try to pick
Speaker 2: up the first down there and get him get closer.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, if they thought their kicker had the leg
Speaker 1: even attempt of fifty seven yard field goal, especially with
Speaker 1: the ink with the weazard, it was Hey, listen, this
Speaker 1: good game. This game was not only good hera boy,
Speaker 1: it was a snooze, specially me. Yes, it was part
Speaker 1: of the guy on the part of the Bears officer
Speaker 1: coordinator not making any goddamn adjustments, adjustments to what the
Speaker 1: Seahawks were doing the entire game. They blitzing, it's it's
Speaker 1: the numbers game. It's or it's the numbers game. Make
Speaker 1: the juste necessary to give Caleb Williams the time to
Speaker 1: actually throw the ball. He running for us like they
Speaker 1: had six six seven sacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in that situation, do show you know they're bringing gas. Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make almost run smoke screens and jail breaks,
Speaker 2: screens and shallows until you stop listen.
Speaker 3: I gotta get listen.
Speaker 1: You got that you got to understand. You got that
Speaker 1: you have to scheme against. Okay, listen, when it comes
Speaker 1: to playing football, the game of football, it's simple. It's
Speaker 1: a game of masses, the game of numbers, and it's
Speaker 1: simply a chess mask between the officer coordinator and the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Anticipate what they're gonna do. You're in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. They've been blitzing the whole goddamn game based
Speaker 1: on your tennessees and down in distance, COmON sense.
Speaker 3: You gotta know what to do.
Speaker 1: They not even using Kyler Williams too. It's goddamn stress.
Speaker 2: Well, anytime I got a mobile quarterback, ojo, the last
Speaker 2: thing I want to do is to give him time.
Speaker 2: I wanted to make him make snap decisions. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna pressure. I'm gonna heat him up because I don't
Speaker 2: want him to sit back there because I know Caleb
Speaker 2: Williams wants to buy time, he wants to ay let
Speaker 2: everything develop. No, I want to I want you to
Speaker 2: make quick decisions. And the way I do that is
Speaker 2: that I blitch you. And then because when I blench you,
Speaker 2: you're gonna take your eyes off downfield because you're gonna
Speaker 2: see the rush and you all of a sudden and
Speaker 2: you're not gonna readjust him. By the time you readjust hey,
Speaker 2: we're gonna either have you out of the pocket or
Speaker 2: we're gonna be got you.
Speaker 3: And so that's what they were doing. I agree with you,
Speaker 3: O Joe.
Speaker 2: I didn't see any adjustment tonight that would make me think,
Speaker 2: like bro y'all, see what they're doing.
Speaker 3: They're doing the same thing. Now.
Speaker 2: Maybe Seattle is not a blitz package team, but you know,
Speaker 2: normally McDonald's is a a You feel he can get
Speaker 2: pressure with his front four. But in that situation, I
Speaker 2: just want to speed Caleb Williams up. I do not
Speaker 2: want him to have time, O Joe. I don't want
Speaker 2: him to think about what he's doing. I wanna a
Speaker 2: pressure on him and I want to make him fanatic.
Speaker 2: I want to make him frantic. I want to make
Speaker 2: him like Helter Skelter. And when if I can do that,
Speaker 2: I like my chances. He is a rookie. He's going
Speaker 2: to get better, but he's not gonna get better in
Speaker 2: this system. He's not gonna get better this year.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Absolutely night Listen, it's malpractice what they're doing
Speaker 1: to him. Offensively, whether the coordinators are whatever they're doing.
Speaker 1: He looked like a deer in headlights on Yeah, every
Speaker 1: time you look like a deer in headlights. He has
Speaker 1: no time to be composed. He's always on the run.
Speaker 1: He's running for his life, and they confuse him the
Speaker 1: entirety of the night. I'm about confused. I mean that's
Speaker 1: they did.
Speaker 2: But Ojo, but it is okay to throw the ball away.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna look. I know in college you are
Speaker 2: able to get away from a lot of this, a
Speaker 2: lot of this, o Joe, because that's what you know.
Speaker 2: He won the Heisman Trophy. He does have gates escapability.
Speaker 3: He does.
Speaker 2: He's able to throw the ball on the run, rolling
Speaker 2: to his rolling to his life.
Speaker 3: Right, he does. He can do that, Ojo.
Speaker 2: A lot of times, mobile quarterbacks get themselves in trouble
Speaker 2: feeling that they can escape everything. Look at the most
Speaker 2: sacked guys, and a lot of the guys that have
Speaker 2: been most sacked are your most mobile guys that you
Speaker 2: wouldn't think. There are your Michael Vicks, there are your
Speaker 2: Justin Fields. There are you lebart Now Lamar doesn't get
Speaker 2: sacked as much as he did early in his career
Speaker 2: because he understands he does a better job of getting
Speaker 2: off the football. But Steve Young used to get sacked
Speaker 2: a lot, Steve McNair used to get sacked a lot.
Speaker 2: Randall Cunningham used to get sacked a lot. Go back
Speaker 2: and look at a lot of your mobile quarterbacks and
Speaker 2: you'll see because they run themselves out of harm's way
Speaker 2: on the front side, only to run themselves into trouble
Speaker 2: on the backside. But he's gonna have to do a
Speaker 2: better job because they can't protect you all. They can
Speaker 2: put you behind the Great Wall of China, but at
Speaker 2: some point in time, you're gonna have to find a
Speaker 2: way to get rid of the football oho and not
Speaker 2: take those unnecessary sacks, because sometimes he takes not tonight, notwithstanding,
Speaker 2: he takes sack that takes them out of field goal
Speaker 2: range or puts them in a bad situation where it
Speaker 2: could be third and save four. Now all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it's third and eleven is third and thirteen. You can't
Speaker 2: do that because you're not over You're not good enough
Speaker 2: to overcome long down in distances, down in and down out,
Speaker 2: game in and game out.
Speaker 1: Listen if they if the officer coordinator and the head
Speaker 1: coach know that the officer line is as bad as
Speaker 1: it is. Bill, no bad the way it is. You
Speaker 1: gotta run the quick game. You gotta run the quick game.
Speaker 1: If you're not having any success on the ground, you
Speaker 1: got to be able to get the ball out of
Speaker 1: Caleb's hands as fast as possible. Help them. Listen, if
Speaker 1: the receivers are having problems getting off the ball and
Speaker 1: getting open condense, the goddamn spits. Put them in bunch,
Speaker 1: Put put players in motion. Do it. There's so many
Speaker 1: different things you can do from a creative standpoint to
Speaker 1: not only help Caleb Williams, but to help the officer
Speaker 1: line and the wolves that they have in and get
Speaker 1: the players in your playmakers' hands. It's too many things
Speaker 1: you can do from a creative standpoint that they're just
Speaker 1: not doing. Especially they're not watching what the Seahawks is doing.
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here watching the game. Well, god damn,
Speaker 1: why are you running? Why are you running routes twelve
Speaker 1: yards and over? And you know you're not. You don't
Speaker 1: have no time to throw to guy.
Speaker 2: You got that kind of time. You don't got that
Speaker 2: time to complete the ball. The Seattle Seahawks have proved
Speaker 2: the ninety seven. They're half game back of the Rams
Speaker 2: for the NFC West. The Rams this week, they aren't
Speaker 2: home the last two games. They got the Cardinals this
Speaker 2: week and then they have the Seahawks the following week.
Speaker 3: Both games are at home.
Speaker 2: The Seahawks tonight recorded seven sacks, chiuntless pressures, Geno Smith
Speaker 2: seventeen of twenty three above sixty Caleb Williams sixteen to
Speaker 2: twenty eight one two no.
Speaker 3: Touchdowns one of exceptions.
Speaker 2: Like I said, look, I understand the condition, but it's
Speaker 2: just a bad football. Plus this Thursday, plus this Christmas.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody really trying to travel Seattle, like man brou
Speaker 2: And you know, O Joe, when you travel from the
Speaker 2: North Way North, I mean, you can't go further north
Speaker 2: than what Seattle is unless you got a team Alaska, Russia.
Speaker 3: Not as far north you're gonna be able to go.
Speaker 2: But this game was not very good considering and even
Speaker 2: the games last night, O Joe. Yeah, they were one
Speaker 2: side of yesterday, but Man, I mean, and and what
Speaker 2: Texans only scored four points? I mean two points considering
Speaker 2: that the Saints got shut out. They were the first
Speaker 2: team to get shut out. In the twenty twenty four season,
Speaker 2: they scored zero points. Seattle, excuse me, Seattle. Pittsburgh only
Speaker 2: scored ten points. But tonight you got bad offenses that
Speaker 2: didn't didn't execute very well. It was raining, it's today
Speaker 2: after Christmas. Give various fans credit for showing up because
Speaker 2: they know they're not going anywhere. They're trying to be
Speaker 2: very supportive. So I tip my hat oh Joe the team.
Speaker 2: The fans that go out there when their team they
Speaker 2: know their team is trash and they're not very good
Speaker 2: and they're not going anywhere, and they show up with
Speaker 2: the same passion as if they're in Kansas City, the
Speaker 2: same passion as they were with Philly, or they're in
Speaker 2: Baltimore or one of these teams that they know they're
Speaker 2: going to the playoffs.
Speaker 3: But I commend the Bears.
Speaker 2: For doing what they do because they don't have a
Speaker 2: whole lot to cheer about.
Speaker 3: Its promising.
Speaker 2: It's going to be very interesting to see who they
Speaker 2: hire and the offensive coordinator that they get to groom
Speaker 2: and to cultivate.
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams. Don't mess this up. Bears.
Speaker 2: Y'all really haven't had good quarterbacks in a long, long time.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever hell, you might got
Speaker 2: to go back to Cid luckman. I know what Jim
Speaker 2: McMahon did, but O Joe. For the most part, they
Speaker 2: haven't had very good look at quarterback position. And if
Speaker 2: they messed this up, they're gonna be kicking themselves.
Speaker 1: Listen, they should be kicking themselves for what they've done
Speaker 1: to quarterbacks. But I don't know how long it's been.
Speaker 1: Jim McMahon is the last one I can remember that
Speaker 1: has some type of success, ob see. But when you
Speaker 1: think about it, I think about the coaches that are
Speaker 1: out there. They had Pete Carroll's name in it, but
Speaker 1: from a creativity stand point, understanding the skill set and
Speaker 1: how special Cayleb Williams is having someone that can come
Speaker 1: in there and get the most out of his potential
Speaker 1: and what he's able to do. Ben Johnson, I know
Speaker 1: you're gonna see this clip. All coaches, all players see
Speaker 1: these clips that we have on Nightcap. Ben, if you
Speaker 1: have an opportunity, man, please not only save that franchise,
Speaker 1: but save Kayleb Williams, Dave Kayler Williams and allow him.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're one of the one of the few
Speaker 1: officer coordinators who are similar to that of Andy Reid,
Speaker 1: who has the creative prowess from an officer standpoint that
Speaker 1: can get him to his full potential and change that
Speaker 1: and turn that bears organization around. I mean, somebody got
Speaker 1: to do it, and he's the only one I can
Speaker 1: think of. He's the only one I can think of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean because the success that Kingsbury has had with
Speaker 2: Jade and Daniels.
Speaker 3: Do you look at him?
Speaker 2: You see he did get Kyler Murray Rookie of the
Speaker 2: Offensive Rookie of the Year, about to do it again
Speaker 2: with jayde and Daniels offensive Rookie of the Year. He
Speaker 2: coached Johnny Manziel got him the Heisman. Kyler Murray got
Speaker 2: him the Heisman. If I'm not mistaken, he might have
Speaker 2: been the coach with Baker Mayfield got him the Heisman.
Speaker 2: But now maybe Baker was a was it Cliff or
Speaker 2: was it a what's the guy? What's the offensive coordinator name?
Speaker 2: At us? The head coach at USC But Cliff has
Speaker 2: done a great job of cultivating young quarterbacks, getting them
Speaker 2: prepared to play. If I'm not mistaken, he was I
Speaker 2: think he had Pat mahone boy.
Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley, Lincoln Roley. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe Lincoln Riley had Kyler Murray and h and Baker
Speaker 2: Mayfield in college. But I know Cliff had it at
Speaker 2: at Arizona. I know Cliff had Johnny Manziel at Texas
Speaker 2: A and M. I know Cliff had Patrick Mahomes at
Speaker 2: Texas A and M. So he understands that level of quarterback,
Speaker 2: the athletic quarterback that can throw the football, but they're
Speaker 2: really good with their legs. Johnny great with his legs,
Speaker 2: espacely in college. Mahomes great with his legs. We see
Speaker 2: what he can.
Speaker 3: Do with now.
Speaker 2: He doesn't run around as much as Caleb, he doesn't
Speaker 2: run around as much as Jane Daniels, but he has
Speaker 2: the ability to get out of harm's way.
Speaker 3: And that's what you need. You need a creative mind.
Speaker 2: You need somebody to come up with a scheme, O
Speaker 2: Joe that's gonna maximize what these guys do and uh
Speaker 2: and and look as great as Pete Carroll Libs. I
Speaker 2: don't know if now if Pete's gonna go out there
Speaker 2: and hire one of these hot shot offensive coordinators. Okay,
Speaker 2: but but you know, Pete want to play defense, and.
Speaker 3: And and and and and uh uh and I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, he did a great job with Russ. Let's
Speaker 3: not uh.
Speaker 2: Russ came along, got a Super Bowl. She probably should
Speaker 2: have got a second one, but they had an outstanding defense. Now,
Speaker 2: I don't know if the Bears have the personnel to
Speaker 2: be the legion of Boom. But when you got that
Speaker 2: kind of offensive firepower, you got a Keenan Allen, you
Speaker 2: got a DJ Moore, you got a Cold commit, you
Speaker 2: got a Roaman Dunes. Uh and you got a Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2: You've gotta be better on offense than what they've displayed
Speaker 2: this year. Odjoe, you just gotta be yeah, oh Joe.
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson is currently projected to sign a three year,
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty million dollar contract this sofseason. That's
Speaker 2: an average of about forty six million per year. Should
Speaker 2: the Steelers sign Russell william to excuse me, Russell Wilson
Speaker 2: to such a contract, I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think so obviously that there's been a
Speaker 1: skin as far for them the last three weeks offensively,
Speaker 1: but I think Arthur Smith and Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3: With another year under their belt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but weeah with another year under their belt. I
Speaker 1: think it would be I think it would be good.
Speaker 1: I think Russell Wilson has a possible, has a possibility
Speaker 1: of being the quarterback of the future. And if they
Speaker 1: don't see fifth as far as giving him three for
Speaker 1: one for then you know, Justin Fields is always there
Speaker 1: as a backup plan if things don't go well, similar
Speaker 1: to that of Kirk Cousins that the Falcons. They sound,
Speaker 1: they sound Kirk Cousins the whatever, whatever the numbers may
Speaker 1: have been, and it didn't it didn't pan out the
Speaker 1: way they thought it would, and you make the switch.
Speaker 1: But Russell Wilson has shown that he's very capable of
Speaker 1: leading the team, being a leader of men, doing what
Speaker 1: he's always done. He's not the same Russell Wilson, the ball,
Speaker 1: not the same Russell Wilson, but he is adequate. He
Speaker 1: can protect the ball and he can make the plays necessary.
Speaker 1: And Arthur Smith, the way he calls the plays for
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, it's perfect, it's perfect. You know. The running game.
Speaker 1: Najie Smith saved saved that team a little bit from
Speaker 1: an offer the standpoint because they don't just throw the
Speaker 1: ball over and over and over and they're not Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're not built like that. But I think I think
Speaker 1: it's a good thing. It's a good thing just to
Speaker 1: have some stability and security at the quarterback position because
Speaker 1: without that, it ain't happening. Despite with them looked like
Speaker 1: the past three weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the thing is that the turnover bug
Speaker 2: has on a bit. The Steelers. I mean, Russ didn't
Speaker 2: take care of the ball against the Broncos. Uh, he
Speaker 2: turned to had a bad interception in the end zone.
Speaker 2: Friar youth fumble the ball go ahead on the interception
Speaker 2: this this past weekend. Now that that's that's that's that's.
Speaker 3: That's the pigs fault.
Speaker 1: Yes, piggings fall. You got you got to get off
Speaker 1: that release. You can't stop on the route because you
Speaker 1: you have to put that safety in the mind and
Speaker 1: make it make a decision.
Speaker 3: So absolutely correct. But again but.
Speaker 1: Again the stats don't show that. They just say Russell.
Speaker 2: Wilson, I saw it from the jump. I saw it
Speaker 2: from the jump. Yeah, I saw t O tweeted it.
Speaker 2: Also about telling about you, how you how you stopped
Speaker 2: on the route. That's the last out, Yo. Everybody everything,
Speaker 2: every play, everybody has a responsibility and a lot of
Speaker 2: times in order for you to get maximum result out
Speaker 2: of that play, everybody has to do their responsibility. Now, occasally,
Speaker 2: sometimes guys don't do their responsibility and you can still
Speaker 2: get positive out of a play. But when it's when
Speaker 2: the when the negative is so egregious, when the negative
Speaker 2: is so egregious, he stops. Well, when he stops, the
Speaker 2: court and the safety all like, there is no threat outside.
Speaker 2: Why the hell would I split and get wide when
Speaker 2: there's no thread out there? My threat is streaming up
Speaker 2: the scene. M So let me go and just take
Speaker 2: this off your hand, Russ. I appreciate that. Now, bo
Speaker 2: Joe Pickens is gonna have to be stopped having to
Speaker 2: be so emotional on every play.
Speaker 3: Every play he doesn't get the ball, he's like, oh.
Speaker 2: My goodness, oh Lord, have mercy, geez, I mean he
Speaker 2: throw the ball up it, bro. I know, I know
Speaker 2: he's a phenomenal talent, O Joe. The the catches, the
Speaker 2: catches and the difficulty of the catches that he makes
Speaker 2: on a consistent basis. But if he were to channel
Speaker 2: a lot of that energy, O Joe I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think he realized just how good he can be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he don't.
Speaker 3: Think he does.
Speaker 2: I don't think he realizes, Ojo, he got special ability, Ocho.
Speaker 1: Yeah he does, he does.
Speaker 3: You know that.
Speaker 1: I wish the Steelers would realize that too. I wish
Speaker 1: I wish they would realize it too and maximize his potential,
Speaker 1: you know, put him in, put him in different positions
Speaker 1: to make some of those plays outside of just go
Speaker 1: ball here, go ball there. Yeah, you know, man, man
Speaker 1: move that mother, excuse me, my bad, my bad, move
Speaker 1: him around, let him touch it early. You know, he's
Speaker 1: a playmaker. I've seen him lance and go to the
Speaker 1: house and go seventy. You know, he can do some
Speaker 1: of the same things t Higgins and Jamar k Jamar
Speaker 1: Chase can do at six three sixty four. He's special,
Speaker 1: but they don't use him in that sense. So I
Speaker 1: kind of I kind of get not making excuses for him,
Speaker 1: not making an excuses for him. I'm just understanding how
Speaker 1: good he is and how how much of a difference
Speaker 1: he can make for that offense and making everyone else
Speaker 1: job around him easy despite him being emotional at times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think The thing is is that he
Speaker 2: can't get frustrated. Uh you know the interception, bro that
Speaker 2: was on you, and they're like, they go somewhere else
Speaker 2: with the ball. I mean, I'm sure they would love
Speaker 2: to come to you. But I mean they're doing a
Speaker 2: great job. They're taking the best received for their best
Speaker 2: dB and putting them on you. It's not like McGuff
Speaker 2: is a slouch.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean the guy made All Pro as a as
Speaker 2: a rookie last year for a reason. Yeah, probably gonna
Speaker 2: make the Pro Bowl again. Him, Sir Chain and Sauts
Speaker 2: Gardner are probably gonna get make the Pro Bowl. Now
Speaker 2: he might get left out, uh uh, and Jay Ram go.
Speaker 2: But it's gonna be interesting. But I think we know.
Speaker 2: I think Saut's Gardener and Sir Tanna's definitely making it.
Speaker 2: I mean, Sir Tam might be h one of the
Speaker 2: two best corners and I don't think he's two. So
Speaker 2: it's gonna be very interesting to see how the ALC
Speaker 2: cornerback position.
Speaker 3: I think that hold on, Oh that's that might be
Speaker 3: next week. Ochoe.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought they was gonna name the I
Speaker 2: thought they was gonna name the Pro Bowl stuff this week.
Speaker 1: But I guess Christmas at the last game of the season,
Speaker 1: ain't it.
Speaker 2: It's before the last because you know, o Joe, we
Speaker 2: used to do it like week fourteen. Yeah, so you know,
Speaker 2: week fourteen, you come out, you got, you got the
Speaker 2: fifteenth game, and then the next you got you know,
Speaker 2: you close out the season.
Speaker 3: So I thought they were gonna do it. I thought
Speaker 3: they were gonna do it Tuesday.
Speaker 2: But maybe because of the holidays and where it fell,
Speaker 2: So maybe you're right, Ojoe, maybe you're gonna do it
Speaker 2: before the last game of the season. But like, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be very interesting to see what the Steelers do
Speaker 2: and how they play this thing in the offseason. They
Speaker 2: do have justin Fields. Maybe they have another year on him.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think they picked up that option,
Speaker 2: but they I think they kind of like have this right,
Speaker 2: I think, I think, I don't know. I don't but
Speaker 2: Russ had forty six millions that seemed to be kind
Speaker 2: of like to play here. But here's here's some quotes
Speaker 2: that came out of the locker room. There have been
Speaker 2: a couple of weird check this out on Joe.
Speaker 3: TJ.
Speaker 2: Watt said, I love football, I love the process. And
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of guys in the locker
Speaker 2: room that do. Also, Cam Hayward said this, When ten
Speaker 2: guys do their job and one guy doesn't, we're screwed.
Speaker 2: De Sean Elliott. First off, guys can't be effing wide open.
Speaker 2: That's the first thing. Just do your job. Patrick Queen
Speaker 2: can't explain it. It's happening. We keep talking about it,
Speaker 2: but nobody's doing anything about it.
Speaker 3: Is their drama in the Steelers' locker room.
Speaker 2: And how does the Steelers brush off this losing streak
Speaker 2: because they had a two game lead, yeah, over the Ravens,
Speaker 2: and now the Ravens Elite froged them. And if the
Speaker 2: Ravens beat Cleveland the final game of the season, they
Speaker 2: win the division and they're gonna get a home game,
Speaker 2: and the Steelers that are in the playoffs, they're gonna
Speaker 2: have to go on the road when they could have
Speaker 2: been in the catbirdy seat had they taken care of
Speaker 2: their business. What's going on in the Steelers' locker room?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you know, Mike, You know, Mike
Speaker 1: gonna nip that in the bug. You know, Mike gonna
Speaker 1: play that now. Now that very few times when you
Speaker 1: have players, especially on Mike Tomlin team, that come out
Speaker 1: and voice their frustration when things aren't going to the way
Speaker 1: they should. Mike can go talk to those players. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's any drama. Obviously, they're they're speaking from
Speaker 1: a defens standpoint, and obviously some of the things that
Speaker 1: they're saying. Everybody has to do their job. There are
Speaker 1: eleven players on the field. It's a team sport, but
Speaker 1: each individual has to do their own job. So they're
Speaker 1: speaking on other other players on what they should be doing.
Speaker 1: That shouldn't even be talked about at all at all,
Speaker 1: because when you when you turn on the film, it's
Speaker 1: gonna show the eye and the guy don't lie, correct,
Speaker 1: you know, don't it don't lie. So that's no need
Speaker 1: to talk about anybody else. Just make sure you do
Speaker 1: your job, and when everybody's on one accord, one band,
Speaker 1: one goddamn sound, the wins will come, you know, I
Speaker 1: think they. I think I wouldn't say the players are
Speaker 1: panicking because I think they just fuss, Yeah, frustrated because
Speaker 1: they've been they've been winning. They've been winning for so long.
Speaker 1: They're used to winning all the time, you know, and
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden thing you have a three
Speaker 1: two game skid, whatever it may be, losing now you're
Speaker 1: all up in arms. It's no need to panic. Just
Speaker 1: keep on chopping wooded panic.
Speaker 2: All all losing streaks are in the same is when
Speaker 2: the losing streak takes place at the end of the year,
Speaker 2: you're supposed to be going here, not going here. And
Speaker 2: right now you see where they're going. They were here
Speaker 2: and they're no diving. They're not going here. The Ravens
Speaker 2: were here and they're going here. The Steelers were here
Speaker 2: and they're going there. So we're going in two different directions.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is, go ahead, don't.
Speaker 1: Joe, for the sake, you don't fix that by complaining though,
Speaker 1: by complaining, especially in the media. Man, get your add
Speaker 1: back on the field. Practice wend Wednesday, Thursday, do your
Speaker 1: fast Friday, do you walk through Saturday, and then you
Speaker 1: go execute it out there on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Now we are they played Wednesday, Oh Jo, They're good.
Speaker 2: They got Thursday, Friday, Saturday off. See y'all Sunday, come
Speaker 2: in and get something done. Monday Tuesday, be ready to go.
Speaker 2: They probably got the rest of the week off.
Speaker 3: O Joe. Yeah, because remember they play.
Speaker 2: They played yesterday, so I'm certain they're not coming in.
Speaker 2: They're probably not coming in until they might not come
Speaker 2: in until Monday. Oh Joe, you think so. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: got Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not coming until Monday. They're not coming in
Speaker 3: until Monday.
Speaker 2: Give them some time off because think about how many
Speaker 2: games they played. They're one of them teams that played
Speaker 2: like the three games in eleven days.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a body a chance.
Speaker 2: And the thing is that what people need to understand,
Speaker 2: like winners their symbol as a team, and they figure
Speaker 2: itsh out losers assembling in groups B, I, T, C,
Speaker 2: H moan complaint and then.
Speaker 3: Nothing gets solved. Right, So what are your winner? Are
Speaker 3: you losers? Right? It's really that simple. Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know who they're talking about, but that's for that.
Speaker 2: I mean, Cam Heyward, t J.
Speaker 3: Watts.
Speaker 2: They're the fact though, leaders of that defense. Cam has
Speaker 2: been there a long time. He's been a very good
Speaker 2: player for this team for a very very long time.
Speaker 3: TJ.
Speaker 2: Watt is one of the pre one of the two
Speaker 2: or three best defensive players in all of football. He's
Speaker 2: probably on the very short list to win Defensive Player
Speaker 2: of the Year again. He's had I mean, he's been quiet,
Speaker 2: but we know what TJ.
Speaker 3: Watt is. We know who he is.
Speaker 2: Like I said, he's on the very short list again
Speaker 2: to win Defensive Player of the Year. Miles Garrett is
Speaker 2: also on that list. There's a few other guys that's
Speaker 2: on that list, but he's he's gonna be in the
Speaker 2: mix when it's all said done.
Speaker 3: TJ.
Speaker 2: Watt's gonna be in the mix. And so I agree
Speaker 2: with you about Russ. I think that seems to be
Speaker 2: the Gordon rate for one of these guys. That seems
Speaker 2: to be the year the years O Joe. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna be heavily committed, and I'm not giving the two
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars and I'm not giving all this one
Speaker 2: ndred one hundred and twenty five thirty million dollars in
Speaker 2: guaranteed money. That seems to be a good going rate
Speaker 2: for Russ. I think he has, like you said, he's
Speaker 2: not what he once was. He can still get out
Speaker 2: of harm's way, but he doesn't have he doesn't possess
Speaker 2: the improvisational skills and the escape ability that he always
Speaker 2: did because a lot of what he did in Seattle.
Speaker 2: That offense was contingent on his impropositional skills. It was
Speaker 2: almost like, Okay, call the play, Russ. That play ain't
Speaker 2: gonna work. I already know it's not gonna work, but
Speaker 2: I called it anyway. But I need you to do
Speaker 2: what you normally do, and he would go out and
Speaker 2: get the a lot of arms way. But it's gonna
Speaker 2: be very interesting to see how they finish off the season,
Speaker 2: because BOYD, that would be ooh to lose your last
Speaker 2: four home the last four games, and then get kicked
Speaker 2: out in the first round. I don't think the Ruin
Speaker 2: is gonna be very happy with that, and they're gonna
Speaker 2: have to do some long soul searching to figure out
Speaker 2: what actually happened. Dan Campbell won't rest starters against the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. If the Vikings beat the Packers, the game,
Speaker 2: the game against the forty nine ers will.
Speaker 3: Will not mean anything for the Lions.
Speaker 2: Hold On, No, if the Packers beat the forty nine ers,
Speaker 2: is that what you mean? Because both of hold on,
Speaker 2: I'm confused. Why would why would Dan Campbell start resting
Speaker 2: starters anyway in Week seventeen? I mean, you got another
Speaker 2: game to go. I can see if this five. First
Speaker 2: of all, I can see if you already had home
Speaker 2: field clinch like the Chiefs. The Chiefs are going to
Speaker 2: rest their guys, but can't nobody catch them. It would
Speaker 2: be a shame for Detroit to have home field basically
Speaker 2: for the entirety of the season and then lose it
Speaker 2: in the final week seventeen week eight team.
Speaker 3: So no, I get it, And it just so happens.
Speaker 2: He's playing in one of the best divisions in football
Speaker 2: in a very very long time. You got thirteen and
Speaker 2: whatce you got thirteen and two, thirteen and two, and
Speaker 2: you got eleven in four. That just lets you know
Speaker 2: just how powerful that division is. I mean that those
Speaker 2: three teams in division have like, what's that thirteen thirteen
Speaker 2: twenty six and eleven is thirty seven? They got thirty
Speaker 2: seven wins. When you start adding up Jacksonville and the
Speaker 2: Giants and the Raiders and some of these other teams,
Speaker 2: they don't got thirty. They don't got thirty thirty sex
Speaker 2: seven wins between like whatever.
Speaker 1: The eight teams. Yeah, mhm D then knows exactly what
Speaker 1: he's doing.
Speaker 3: It's a very fine line. Oho. Uh between Rest and Russ.
Speaker 2: Uh we made that mistake, oh Jo, We damn near
Speaker 2: had the division one year clinch. I think it was
Speaker 2: ninety six and we ended up losing the division around
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville, but we had to. We had the division,
Speaker 2: Clint damn there at Thanksgiving. So you know Mike is
Speaker 2: trying to juggle. You know, we playing and then guys
Speaker 2: playing until the third quarter for I mean head sometimes
Speaker 2: like a preseason game, uh TD, you know playing half
Speaker 2: Uh you know, I don't play the last game, TV,
Speaker 2: don't play the last game, John, don't play.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like and now you playing like that, Ojo, you
Speaker 2: get to buy so really you hadn't played in that
Speaker 2: played real football. Damn there in a month, and you
Speaker 2: know we got off to a great start. We got
Speaker 2: off to a nothing and you know I ended up
Speaker 2: dropping I dropped a two point conversion that would have
Speaker 2: made it fourteen nothing and we didn't really get our momentum.
Speaker 3: They go on sweat a streak. But they had a
Speaker 3: really good team, O Joe.
Speaker 2: They had you know, Brunell, they had Natron Means, they
Speaker 2: had Jimmy, they had.
Speaker 3: Keen on it. I think they had who the tight end.
Speaker 3: I forget. I don't forget who the tight end it
Speaker 3: was anyway, But.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the DV with Donovan Derris on that team? Then? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember DD Boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh yeah, I agree with Dan. I mean,
Speaker 2: especially it's really too early. You haven't clinched. I don't
Speaker 2: know why the hell you would rest started when you
Speaker 2: haven't clenched anything. You you, righty be a wild card.
Speaker 2: It's true because Minnesota is in your division.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they play, they playing really well.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he said, I'll make it either for everybody. That
Speaker 2: way all christ can jump out and start attacking, but
Speaker 2: the way, But that way, you don't have to debate
Speaker 2: them anymore. We're bringing everything we got into this game
Speaker 2: and we're playing. I don't care what it looks like.
Speaker 2: Where where's ad or who who's that? We're out there
Speaker 2: to play to win this game out on the West Coast.
Speaker 3: So there you go. Do you like them? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I guess what people are saying because they're so injury depleted.
Speaker 2: I'm playing the guy. If you're healthy, you're play it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really know what the debate is though, Joe.
Speaker 2: If you're healthy, you're playing. If you can't go You're
Speaker 2: not going right.
Speaker 1: I mean, he knows what he's doing. Yeah, Dan Campbell's
Speaker 1: the one that has that franchise turned around. Nobody else, Yep,
Speaker 1: I don't get what anybody else in an outset of
Speaker 1: that building is talking about. He went in there and changing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cold and Brad Holmes did a great job of drafting.
Speaker 2: You drafted Jamison Williams, you drafted Jamiir Gibbs, you drafted.
Speaker 3: Arma Arman, Ron Saint Brown up a Nasu.
Speaker 2: I mean you and you get guys uh in free
Speaker 2: agency to come there.
Speaker 3: You do the right ay.
Speaker 2: You look at a Brian Branch, you look at Arnold,
Speaker 2: you look at the guys that they've drafted. They've done
Speaker 2: a great drop in the draft. It's sprinkling in some
Speaker 2: rook and some free agents. You know, they got a
Speaker 2: DJ Reader, they got some of these guys over there
Speaker 2: Oho that's played really well. You see what they did
Speaker 2: the trade deadline, they went and got Zee the Daria Smith.
Speaker 2: They've done a great job. He's changed the mindset. You
Speaker 2: make the trade for Jared Goff and you trade one
Speaker 2: of the one of the hometime you know a fan
Speaker 2: favorite who was the former number one overall.
Speaker 3: Also in Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2: But they've done a great job Montgomery signing David Montgomery,
Speaker 2: but I like looking they trade TJ. Hawkinson. They're like,
Speaker 2: but hold on, teacher, you went to the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2: They bring in Sam Laporter, who's more what Dan Campbell.
Speaker 2: Hawkinson's is mainly f of what we call a fly
Speaker 2: a tiger tight end. Not really good at the point
Speaker 2: of attack, but he can catch the football. Laporta. The
Speaker 2: one thing about he can say a lot of those
Speaker 2: guys out of an hour, they're gonna block you. Look
Speaker 2: at Kittle and put his head in dirt. Broy he
Speaker 2: gonna get after you. Yeah, they don't get after that.
Speaker 2: The thing about that, I don't know what they got
Speaker 2: going on in them corn fig jokers out there at
Speaker 2: our well man, them just gonna be playing man.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, Teddy b Teddy Too.
Speaker 2: Goes has come out of retirement and sign with the
Speaker 2: Lions today, weeks after he coached his high school album
Speaker 2: Monitor A state championship.
Speaker 3: Miami Northwestern.
Speaker 2: They beat I think they beat Rains in the three
Speaker 2: A champions Class three A championship, Florida. Bridgewater coached this
Speaker 2: album Madel you know, I can see him being.
Speaker 1: A cors right here down the street.
Speaker 3: So you like to move out, Joe, That's.
Speaker 1: A goddamn ltely. But listen, this is if you were
Speaker 1: to be able to tell a story, If Teddy Bridgewater
Speaker 1: was to be able to write a book, I think
Speaker 1: this would be the perfect story in it. This would
Speaker 1: be the perfect story in it. For one, not only
Speaker 1: be from Dade County, not only be from Liberty City.
Speaker 1: Not only to overcome all the obstacles Teddy had to
Speaker 1: go through. Right, play quarterback at Miami Northwestern, you know,
Speaker 1: play quarterback in college. I can't remember what. Teddy went Tosville.
Speaker 1: Go to Louisville too, right, boom, get drafted, go to Minnesota,
Speaker 1: just have a stellar NFL career, go back to get
Speaker 1: back to your alma mater, show those to show the kids,
Speaker 1: to get the kids home. Look, I was able to
Speaker 1: do it. Not only was I able to do it,
Speaker 1: I was able to get to the highest level of
Speaker 1: my childhood dream, the pinnacle of that, and come back
Speaker 1: to you and give you all the knowledge that you
Speaker 1: need to know as your head coach, take you to
Speaker 1: a state championship, and then have the opportunity to go
Speaker 1: back and play the games that I love and grew
Speaker 1: up trying to try to get to. Yeah, it don't
Speaker 1: get no better than that. We talk about blessings, man,
Speaker 1: that's that's the biggest blessing, the best opportunity ever. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm happy for Teddy. I mean, why they sign them,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. A great locker room guy, A great
Speaker 1: locker room guy. I think having me in the locker
Speaker 1: room can be a good thing, especially for this playoff run.
Speaker 1: And I mean that there's nothing.
Speaker 3: Wrong with it.
Speaker 1: Not very not very many get this kind of opportunity
Speaker 1: though Teddy Special man o.
Speaker 2: Joe Nick Siyanni apologized to zach Ertz for the spot
Speaker 2: after the Commander's game. Video has emerged of zach Ertz
Speaker 2: he winning for a handshake with Eagle head coach Nick Sarahanni.
Speaker 2: Nick turned his head and said something to Ertz as
Speaker 2: he walked away. Erst what's furious about what Sarajanni said?
Speaker 2: And Big Dom had to get involved even though he apologized.
Speaker 2: Is this a bad look for Sara Janni? It is
Speaker 2: oh Joe, Oh Joe, that's the head coach.
Speaker 1: It ain't got to be your homeboy, man, listen.
Speaker 3: Let me let me finish, Let me finish.
Speaker 1: Listen. He's the head coach, right, Yes, he said, we
Speaker 1: don't know what happened with them personally before he left.
Speaker 3: Yes, we don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, there might have been some issues. I mean,
Speaker 1: zach Ertz probably knows that. You know there were issues.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you know, we not cool even if
Speaker 1: I am the head coach regards to my job titled
Speaker 1: and we know being like that, man, fuck all that,
Speaker 1: buddy buddy shit.
Speaker 3: You can't be that your head coach. You're you're the
Speaker 3: face of the organization.
Speaker 2: You can't do that. See you think it like me,
Speaker 2: and you think players. You the head coach, ojo you
Speaker 2: to see over a company. Now think about it. Now,
Speaker 2: we just saw him get into it with fans. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's the bad nick. At some point in time, you're
Speaker 2: gonna have to be the bigger person in the room.
Speaker 3: You can't constantly get because I'm.
Speaker 2: Telling you, you know who's watching Harry Roseman, you know
Speaker 2: who else is watching Jeffrey Lowie. They're not gonna continue
Speaker 2: to let you keep embarrassing them in this situation because
Speaker 2: they believe with the talent they got, they can bring
Speaker 2: somebody else in and coach this football team. Now, I
Speaker 2: don't know how Look they got Dallas Goddter, they got
Speaker 2: I forget the guy. He's from Oklahoma and so they
Speaker 2: I think they traded him or no, they might they
Speaker 2: might have released Zach.
Speaker 3: I don't know. But you know he had some injuryes
Speaker 3: O Joe, he had a little injury.
Speaker 2: If that he'd been dealing with some congussions last year
Speaker 2: or so, I think if I'm not mistaken. But even
Speaker 2: though Ojo like even like me and you, Now that's
Speaker 2: different me and you a as a player players come
Speaker 2: to shake my head, I don't rock with you. That's
Speaker 2: what I got for you. That's what I got for
Speaker 2: Yo Joe. But as a head.
Speaker 1: Coach, right See, that's why it's hard to ask me
Speaker 1: that question. That's why it's hard to ask me that
Speaker 1: question because I don't I'm not thinking about the job
Speaker 1: title is being a head coach? Man, Listen, man, what
Speaker 1: you know? We don't now you know I don't even
Speaker 1: rock with you. Why coming to shake my hand for
Speaker 1: fuck nigga?
Speaker 2: I mean that's how we talk, that's how we talk.
Speaker 2: We're not in the provision, we're not in the provision.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm like, come on, man, And you know what
Speaker 1: else I don't like what the fact that Nick Sirianni
Speaker 1: is a head coach. Now you have to fake how
Speaker 1: you truly feel and how you would normally operate because
Speaker 1: of that said job title. I don't listen, zach ers,
Speaker 1: I don't like you.
Speaker 5: Why are you coming to shake my hand? But as
Speaker 5: a head coach, how many times you think you lying
Speaker 5: on Joe? Let me your question? As a head coach?
Speaker 5: How many times you thank you a lot of players?
Speaker 5: You a lot of players? Son, you're doing good?
Speaker 3: No good? Will he being terrible? Bingo?
Speaker 1: You see what I mean? That's what we need today
Speaker 1: and today.
Speaker 3: Not in that position, not too much.
Speaker 1: As a head coach. I don't even know how you
Speaker 1: got here. I don't even know how you made.
Speaker 3: Loan, you coach Loan. You're just not see.
Speaker 1: That's that's why I can't coach. I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 1: with you. I'm gonna be whoa whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 3: Woa hold on how you say you're not gonna coach?
Speaker 2: And you just got the way this year that you
Speaker 2: will criticized players, But all of a sudden, you the
Speaker 2: head coach and you with the players, and you gonna
Speaker 2: be like this.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's different. It's different. See listen, hold on, state,
Speaker 1: stay with me.
Speaker 3: Now, I with you, I with you.
Speaker 1: I can emphathize with the players when things are going
Speaker 1: well because that was once me. I'm not that far
Speaker 1: removed the game, even though it's been some years. So
Speaker 1: I've been too.
Speaker 3: Bro, you fifteen years removed.
Speaker 1: Hold on, I can still play thrown do that to me, don't.
Speaker 3: Okay, you can still play, but you've still been removed.
Speaker 1: Okay, But listen, I can see it from both, from
Speaker 1: both sides of the spectrum because I know what it's
Speaker 1: like as a receiver. I know it's like to mess up.
Speaker 1: I know it's like the loaf. I know it's like
Speaker 1: the missus block. I know it's like to drop a ball.
Speaker 1: I know it's like touch down. I know what it's
Speaker 1: like to have a get to lose a game on
Speaker 1: the hands of my bad play. Okay, then I always
Speaker 1: keep that in the back of my mind when talking
Speaker 1: and being critical of players. But now I ain't got better.
Speaker 1: Now I don't even ken them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should ojo when you loaf or you drop
Speaker 2: a ball and somebody poured it out, How you gonna
Speaker 2: say they hate me? See, guys get mad at now
Speaker 2: because you pouring out? Bro, you was loafing. Are you
Speaker 2: only ian?
Speaker 3: You a hater? Well, all I said was you was loafing?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 3: Why you like? You make it seem like I made
Speaker 3: this up.
Speaker 2: I can pull the tape out and just say, okay,
Speaker 2: tell me what you're thinking on this. You dropped the ball,
Speaker 2: you missed the blog, you missed the tackle.
Speaker 3: So how if I say that.
Speaker 2: If I'm if I'm analyzing a game and I say, hey,
Speaker 2: we need to get better play out of X. We
Speaker 2: need to get a better play out of why, how
Speaker 2: if I'm stating the obvious?
Speaker 3: Is that hating you mad?
Speaker 2: Because the point that the fact that I pointed it out,
Speaker 2: Dion told me something, Prime told me something uh early
Speaker 2: on when I first got it, especially because like he
Speaker 2: and I went to we you know, I think time
Speaker 2: might be to sixty six, I might be to sixty seven.
Speaker 2: I wonder what I think. I think he's before me.
Speaker 2: But anyway, and he was saying, he was like Sean,
Speaker 2: he said, you have to understand you're not just anybody
Speaker 2: critiquing them.
Speaker 3: You got that gold jacket. Yeah, you got credentials. Your
Speaker 3: words carry more weight, I said.
Speaker 2: But time, it's like they said they didn't want people
Speaker 2: that didn't play the game critiquing them.
Speaker 3: Oh, cho, you and I played the game. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: ain't making this up.
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is that you did this and it
Speaker 2: didn't work out. You probably should have did that, or
Speaker 2: you missed the block, you missed the catch.
Speaker 3: Now I'm a hater. Now I'm jealous. I'm like, Bro,
Speaker 3: how of what.
Speaker 4: I was like?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 3: I don't know if y'all noticed.
Speaker 2: I know I've been away from the game twenty plus years,
Speaker 2: but Google, Google still work, Google Share in the shark,
Speaker 2: and then when they tell me about stats, pull it up
Speaker 2: and they might show you that picture with that gold jacket.
Speaker 2: I remember number two sixty seven. So ain't no jealousy, Bro.
Speaker 2: I got Super Bowls, I got Pro Bowl and got
Speaker 2: all that. God all I'm trying to do. I gotta
Speaker 2: be honest, and a lot of times, you know, and
Speaker 2: I try to what I try to do, O Joe,
Speaker 2: I don't try to get too far in the weeds
Speaker 2: and say certain coverages. And this because I find myself
Speaker 2: O Jo talking you and I talking. We talk a
Speaker 2: language that you and I understand. The casual friend is
Speaker 2: not gonna understand what a bear defense is, what a
Speaker 2: stretch is, or what cover six, cover six kick cover five.
Speaker 3: They're not gonna.
Speaker 2: Understand that overfront or underfront a seven, technique of nine
Speaker 2: or why nine.
Speaker 3: They're not gonna understand that.
Speaker 2: So I try to do I try not to get
Speaker 2: too far into the weeds when I'm talking football terminology.
Speaker 3: But guys know.
Speaker 2: That play, that's playing the game, and they know when
Speaker 2: I talk, they know what I'm talking about. They just
Speaker 2: try to discredit me and use the word hate. They
Speaker 2: never say I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: They just say I hate out my hater, And so
Speaker 2: the casual fan like and they use that term so
Speaker 2: much people starting to believe it. Bro, I ain't got
Speaker 2: no hate. I want you to get all your money.
Speaker 2: I do. But when you analyze something, oh Joe, you
Speaker 2: gotta be honest about what you saw, because you and
Speaker 2: I we know what we're looking for.
Speaker 1: And listen, now, only we know we're looking for, We
Speaker 1: know what she looked like. We know you like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but hey, listen, I do it got better, I'll be Hey,
Speaker 1: I be critiquing my ass.
Speaker 3: You do you do?
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm waiting on the month for gonna mess up.
Speaker 1: Now get And it's not about what you say to
Speaker 1: now I don't realize. It's not about what you're saying,
Speaker 1: it's how you're saying. Yes, it's all in the delivery,
Speaker 1: you know, saying that you know I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: say it with conviction. Yes, I say what the problem was.
Speaker 1: As soon as I finished the problem on saying problem,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, I saw, I always have a solution
Speaker 1: right to fall up with it. I always have a
Speaker 1: solution to fall up with it every time.
Speaker 3: But uh, I just it just like coach.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's okay, I understand you and feeling tough,
Speaker 2: but as a player goes out of your way, youtub,
Speaker 2: this is a bad look for you if it's another player.
Speaker 2: I don't rock with you, Joe. I ain't got no problem.
Speaker 2: I don't rock with you, bro. You know, I don't
Speaker 2: get down like that. But in certain situations, you have
Speaker 2: to be the bigger person in that situation.
Speaker 3: He does, look and.
Speaker 2: So you know, look, oh Joe, you know a lot
Speaker 2: of coaches don't get along.
Speaker 3: Hold up.
Speaker 2: Who was that with suk somebody was shaking hands and
Speaker 2: they shook the hand too long or too hard?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Who was that?
Speaker 2: I forgot shows that somebody got into coaches and he
Speaker 2: shook his head and he's like, you shook his head?
Speaker 3: Are you serious? I forget. I forget well that that
Speaker 3: might have been. I forget who it was. I really do.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was Maybe it was Hardbobed.
Speaker 2: Maybe with Jim Harp it wasn't because it wasn't John
Speaker 2: John John done got that soud I want to sell
Speaker 2: coach Harbor Jim Harbaugh, but I'm not really sure. But uh,
Speaker 2: like there have been time like oh Joe, every coach
Speaker 2: don't like each other. Yeah, but they put on a
Speaker 2: brave face. Hey yeah, okay, best of luck, and I
Speaker 2: hope you trip and follow your last face and.
Speaker 3: Keep it keep it moving. That's what I think it.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, oh yeah, best of luck.
Speaker 2: Man, Oh yeah, cool cool cool boom boom nah bro.
Speaker 2: You know we don't rock like that, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: put on a brave face for you. Jamar Chase on
Speaker 2: whether the last two games you're determine all pro his
Speaker 2: all pro status, I should already be an All Pro bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk yo, talk stop.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be a unanimous He's gonna be a unanimous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you all pro uimous I can spell unanimous too.
Speaker 1: You n a m I unanimous.
Speaker 2: I can't remember a guy that won the triple count
Speaker 2: that wasn't an yananimous MVP because because the All Pro
Speaker 2: is a combination of a f C and NFC. Uh
Speaker 2: that was it was Jim Thwarts. Oh, Jim Thwarts with
Speaker 2: with the Lions. H I was it was Jim Forwartson Harball.
Speaker 2: Wasn't Jim Jim?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think it was Jim Thwartz and John and Jim
Speaker 2: Harbaugh when he forty nine of the forty nine has
Speaker 2: played h uh uh the for the forty nine have
Speaker 2: played the Lions. If I'm not mistaken, as he's trying
Speaker 2: to find it right now, Jamar Chase one hundred and
Speaker 2: eight catch it uh ceedee Lamb is out for the
Speaker 2: rest of the season. So the city he has a shoulder,
Speaker 2: they can't make the playoffs. Go get the shoulder fix.
Speaker 2: That's got the half start?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Amin Ross Saint Brown is one hundred and one catches.
Speaker 2: He's seven catches behind Rock Bowers having one hundred and
Speaker 2: one catches, he's seven catches behind nobody. They're not gonna
Speaker 2: catch him for touchdowns and they're not gonna catch him
Speaker 2: for yards. He has fifteen to ten. The next closest
Speaker 2: to him is Jeff Yes one. He's won twenty three behind,
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty three yards behind. So theoretically, if
Speaker 2: jj we know he's capable of Gordon Haywire, but I
Speaker 2: don't think so. So I think he's gonna win the
Speaker 2: Triple Crown. And even if he doesn't win the Triple Crown,
Speaker 2: he should be a unanimous All Pro selection considering the
Speaker 2: numbers that he's put up this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, most definitely, most definitely now is unanimous. He gonna
Speaker 1: give He gonna have a unanimous goddamn contract in all season.
Speaker 1: And I don't want the Bengals to sit here and
Speaker 1: waiting around to goddamn right for training camp. Listen, we
Speaker 1: don't need it. We don't need a Delly Dally no more.
Speaker 1: We don't need a Dellydally no more. Let's get young bullpaid.
Speaker 1: So so he's happy, he's in a good space mentally,
Speaker 1: you hear me. So he's there for the Auson training program.
Speaker 1: He's there for but mini camp, he's there for all
Speaker 1: the training camp because he miss Listen, stay with me. Now,
Speaker 1: he'd have missed all the training camp, right yeah, and
Speaker 1: came out and had a season like this. So I'm saying,
Speaker 1: now you get him in camp, now, imagine that he
Speaker 1: might have twenty five hundred next year. Come on, now,
Speaker 1: talk to me.
Speaker 3: We told her.
Speaker 1: Listen, we talked about the greatest bangle receiver of all time.
Speaker 1: Now we ain't just talk about any.
Speaker 2: Oh yea yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's what he's earned.
Speaker 2: I ain't say he deserved. I think he would have
Speaker 2: earned the contract that he's gonna receive. Now, you could
Speaker 2: have paid him, but you didn't. You let the price.
Speaker 2: You let the price of goal, you let the price
Speaker 2: of gas, You let the price of oil get high.
Speaker 3: So now you're at the mark mercy of it, you.
Speaker 1: Know, matter of fact. Let me tell you what Let
Speaker 1: me tell Let me tell you what the prostitute told
Speaker 1: me back in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 3: Would she tell.
Speaker 1: You yesterday's price in today's price?
Speaker 3: Who had got this going up?
Speaker 1: It went up because you caught me after she caught me, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: had I had five dollars on the right. Ye, and
Speaker 1: I paid you two days later. She knew how I
Speaker 1: got paid, So you know what she hit me with
Speaker 1: yesterday price?
Speaker 2: You could have got him a five, but I know
Speaker 2: you got money and go cost your team, and plus
Speaker 2: I don't cleaned up a little bit.
Speaker 1: Actually, you're gonna cost him twenty back then, back then?
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, a look cool to cost you
Speaker 1: for twenty dollars, that's it. Yeah, you gotta think this
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that a little something. They damn me. You know,
Speaker 2: they put it out like that. They need they little hit,
Speaker 2: a little fixed and keep it moving. Yeah, yeah, yesterday
Speaker 2: ain't today's. But uh but I tell you what, Bake Bridgo,
Speaker 2: would you have.
Speaker 1: Listen, hey, listen, they could have. They could have They
Speaker 1: could have got it for a little cheap.
Speaker 2: And yeah, because because the problem that they had, they
Speaker 2: had to they had. He had two years left. So
Speaker 2: now you pay it and say, look at Jamar, we're
Speaker 2: gonna give you money. But theoretically we really, oh yo,
Speaker 2: theoretically we got you for four more years. We got
Speaker 2: the two years still on your left contract, and we
Speaker 2: still got two years of franchise tag but we're gonna
Speaker 2: take care of you now. We need you to a
Speaker 2: take care of us a little bit. Now we can't
Speaker 2: give you because you got two years. Now, now give
Speaker 2: me my money, all of it. I want all, I said,
Speaker 2: give me everything. I want everything. Hey, what that dude
Speaker 2: told and what was the sugar rate? Sugar rate with
Speaker 2: Richard Price contract?
Speaker 1: Quick?
Speaker 3: Quick was the little kid when the old man, when he.
Speaker 2: Crapped out, he told him say, I want everything you
Speaker 2: took in to night and everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I want. I ain't want. I don't
Speaker 3: want what I just lost. I want everything that you
Speaker 3: took the other So.
Speaker 2: Chase and gonna say, I don't just want what I
Speaker 2: got what I glove last year.
Speaker 3: I want back faith.
Speaker 2: You put me out of here, uh huh okay, made
Speaker 2: me take out this big ass insurance policy. And now
Speaker 2: I want the money that I paid for the insurance policy.
Speaker 2: I want all the money that you made. Cause y'all
Speaker 2: about to get a raise for the TV revenue. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 1: Need that, we know. And the funny thing about it
Speaker 1: is a chat. I want to make sure y'all can
Speaker 1: hear me chat? Can y'all see me? Chack? Can y'all
Speaker 1: see me. Let me, let me school a little closer
Speaker 1: real quick. I want to look at I want I
Speaker 1: want you to look what Jamar Chase has done. So
Speaker 1: he's coming to the NFL, right, and he said he
Speaker 1: was gonna do it after the draft, he said he
Speaker 1: won't come, and he gonna break every goddamn motherfucking record.
Speaker 1: Not only has he stood on business on that saying,
Speaker 1: but also as his nutritionist. Yes, he confides me when
Speaker 1: it comes to his nutrition and what he puts and
Speaker 1: consumes into his body to perform at the level that
Speaker 1: he's performing at the past three to four years. I'm
Speaker 1: not even sure how long it's been, but he's playing.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: You know what, Jamar Chase east what eat e McDonald's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't believe McDonald's is the staple of his diet.
Speaker 3: And you could eat a lot of things in moderation.
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, let me tell you something. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. Yes, I'm Jamar Che's dietician. I'm his nutritionist,
Speaker 1: I said him. But I sent him a six months
Speaker 1: plan on what to do and how to do it
Speaker 1: and how to eat it in moderation. Yes, you said
Speaker 1: in moderation. Now, he only he only paid me for
Speaker 1: each month I charged two dollars. Yeah, football season, six months,
Speaker 1: you know, so it's twelve hundred. We have the door, right,
Speaker 1: so you know that price gonna go up now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he don't.
Speaker 2: God, you twelve hundreds, so we'll add another eighteen hundred
Speaker 2: and shoot me my three. Now I know you got it. See,
Speaker 2: I thought you were. I thought you was hurting a
Speaker 2: little bit. Now that I know you got it. Oh nah, no,
Speaker 2: oh that.
Speaker 1: Ship hurting hurt on only thing hurting, only thing hurting
Speaker 1: in my heart. And not to sold that back together.
Speaker 1: Oh whatever, that was a good lie. I got to
Speaker 1: write that down. The only thing hurting is my heart.
Speaker 1: Now to sold that back together?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know you know you know, you know
Speaker 2: you better now I mean, hey, chack, there was a
Speaker 2: track right there.
Speaker 3: Boy, I thought we lost it. Now I'm good. I
Speaker 3: was good. Lot it.
Speaker 1: No, I was good. I'm good if I listen. If
Speaker 1: it's something wrong with me, this is the place where
Speaker 1: I'm safe. And me being someone who don't give a
Speaker 1: fuck about about what people say about me, I have
Speaker 1: no problem being vulnerable, especially on this platform.
Speaker 3: I came.
Speaker 2: Put my aunt robber Boy and say, hey, what's the matter,
Speaker 2: old Joe. Yeah, life's abated, yes sir. You here one day,
Speaker 2: gone the next, Yes, sir. But you know, hey, you
Speaker 2: pulled through. Pull through, that's all every time. Hey, listen,
Speaker 2: you know how you start a lawn war, right, m
Speaker 2: You gotta keep.
Speaker 1: Yanking that bits to the start up. Yeah, that's hows how.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta get.
Speaker 1: Some day to take a little longer to get going.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta beg a little longer. Sometimes you gotta
Speaker 2: beg a little louder. Sometime sometimes you gotta beg a
Speaker 2: little harder.
Speaker 1: Hey, huh, come on now, but then you then you
Speaker 1: then you gotta be careful now. Yeah, yeah, I'm very
Speaker 1: conscious because I'm seasoned. Yeah, yeah, huh, I'm seasoned. I
Speaker 1: got a little salt and pep on me. I got
Speaker 1: experience in the game. So what happens to you? I
Speaker 1: gotta stay woke. I gotta stay I ain't no fool
Speaker 1: one thing better. Sometime when you beg right, really not
Speaker 1: who they want to be with. So when you beg
Speaker 1: your way back in there, sometimes they'll play the long game.
Speaker 1: Year me. I'm not talking about my situation. I'm just
Speaker 1: talking about in general for anybody else out there that
Speaker 1: might be having problems and they begging the individ to
Speaker 1: come back. Sometimes they'll come back to you right simply
Speaker 1: because who they really won't ain't really ready, so they're like, well,
Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm gonna come back and go to him
Speaker 1: until the person you're ready. They like to play the
Speaker 1: long game, so you got to be careful.
Speaker 3: Yeah you do chat, y'all.
Speaker 1: Stay with me now. Yeah, I got fifty I have
Speaker 1: fifty three years of horizontal experience and fifty six years
Speaker 1: of dating experience. So I'm not telling you what I heard.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what I know because I haven't been
Speaker 1: through it. M I'm feeling good night. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the fuck. I don't know what I ate. I'm
Speaker 1: feeling good night.
Speaker 2: I know you ate, but I ain't gonna say start
Speaker 2: with a beat, and I ain't talking about no burger.
Speaker 3: I ain't said nothing at Joe.
Speaker 2: Because the Chiefs will have the bye week wild card weekend,
Speaker 2: the Cheese could have as many as twenty five days
Speaker 2: off before they've been begin their playoff push towards a
Speaker 2: three p Because think about it, they played Wednesday, They're
Speaker 2: probably not having to come to work and they're one
Speaker 2: of those teams and it gave them I'm considering o yoke.
Speaker 2: Now they got home field sold up, so the last
Speaker 2: game of the season don't mean anything to them.
Speaker 3: So now.
Speaker 2: They got our Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Mahomes will
Speaker 2: probably throw a little something. He'll probably run scout team Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
Speaker 1: WHOA, you're not nervous about that though, all having all
Speaker 1: that time off and your team just the last two weeks,
Speaker 1: your team just looking like the Kansas City Chiefs we
Speaker 1: used to seeing. You ain't look like the Kansas Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs of old throughout the entirey of the season.
Speaker 1: You have little luck. You had a little left throughout
Speaker 1: the season. Listen, I'm not saying nothing bad about the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: You know they are the Kansas City Chiefs. As long
Speaker 1: as you have Patrick Mahomes, you.
Speaker 3: Have a guy chance you never got a chest.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying as a team as a whole,
Speaker 1: even if you are a Chiefs fan and you in
Speaker 1: the chest, you know your team has not looked up
Speaker 1: the par throughout the tidies of the season. Last week
Speaker 1: was the best I've seen the Chiefs look all goddamn
Speaker 1: season all season long, especially from an office the standpoint,
Speaker 1: But having that much time off, do you think that's
Speaker 1: a good thing when they're just getting in rhythm and
Speaker 1: just starting to look like themselves or what we used
Speaker 1: to seeing at least.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is, Oh, Joe, you can't run
Speaker 2: the risk. You know, you a Mahomes injured way from
Speaker 2: it all be over. It don't matter you get that
Speaker 2: guy nicked, it's over. You can't play well enough on
Speaker 2: either side of the ball to overcome the loss of him.
Speaker 2: He's the one guy that you can't overcome. No team
Speaker 2: can as great as as greate, as Derrick Hendrich is
Speaker 2: running the football, Josh Johnson ain't winning no game at quarterback, right,
Speaker 2: It ain't happening, Josh Nick. I don't know who the
Speaker 2: backup is. You ain't winning no games nobody. I don't
Speaker 2: believe there's a team currently constructed that if the starter
Speaker 2: gives nicked, they could overcome back.
Speaker 1: No. No, because listen, we just saw. We just saw
Speaker 1: with the Eagles. Yeah, we just saw with the Eagles
Speaker 1: against the Commanders. A lot of people will say Oh,
Speaker 1: the Commanders win that game. Actually, no, the Commanders did
Speaker 1: not win that game. It was a Christmas gift from
Speaker 1: the guy. Damn Eagles. If you look at the way
Speaker 1: they played, especially defensively, we ain't seen the Eagles defense
Speaker 1: play like that all season long. We haven't seen DeMarte
Speaker 1: Smith to drop a ball like that that could have
Speaker 1: sealed the game all season a long. Yeah, they gave
Speaker 1: that game away. Two deep passes eleven. You know what
Speaker 1: the percentage is for making it a first down on
Speaker 1: fourth and eleven, let alone and not be in a pass,
Speaker 1: let alone, not to be in a run. But the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks scrambling on fourth and eleven. Yeah, the Eagles gain
Speaker 1: them boys that game. And I don't mean no disrespect.
Speaker 1: It's a good thing. James Daniels just happened. A hell
Speaker 1: of a goddamn season. I'm just saying, the game in
Speaker 1: Pacific should have been over. On that ball to Vontae
Speaker 1: Smith draw, it'snven over. The game is over right there.
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying, Oh, Trubisky is the backup, and Trubisky
Speaker 2: is the backup in Buffalo. Hell, he couldn't He couldn't
Speaker 2: win when he was the starter. Damn sure, he went
Speaker 2: into the backup Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz is the backup.
Speaker 2: And in Kansas City, justin Fields, Josh Johnson, I don't
Speaker 2: even know who the backup is in uh. In Houston,
Speaker 2: y'all helped me out. Who's the backup of Houston. And
Speaker 2: that's the thing. Look, it's hard because the rosters, because
Speaker 2: you're not able to keep quality people at the quarter
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you can statu your web quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: Think about it. Think about how long Steve Young sat
Speaker 3: as a backup to Joe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you ain't keeping those Steve Young no backup. No,
Speaker 2: I mean think about it. You couldn't even keep Jimmy
Speaker 2: Jims a back up to Tom Brady. Right, the roster spots,
Speaker 2: I mean, at some point in time, O Joe, NFL
Speaker 2: is getting away with it. You can't keep expanding games,
Speaker 2: but don't expand the roster. You see what they do
Speaker 2: with O Joe. They don't add another game, they don't
Speaker 2: added another game. So they're about to go to eighteen games.
Speaker 2: But you're not gonna expand the roster. You can't give
Speaker 2: us three other players. So instead of going to forty
Speaker 2: six and go to forty nine.
Speaker 3: Fifty m.
Speaker 2: Come on now, come on, uh oh, Davis Mills is
Speaker 2: the quarterback in Houston.
Speaker 1: Yeah backup, yeah m.
Speaker 2: Hmm, if if CJ hadn't played that well, but I
Speaker 2: promise you this. If CJ goes out General mills Olen
Speaker 2: meals it doesn't matter and going home first round, I
Speaker 2: don't care. How do you name another meals, It does
Speaker 2: not matter, You're going home.
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