1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: So we come to Covenan County Hospital at a hurry 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: and got him minee poolish clothes off shot? What ever 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: were on that tile floor? 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: How would you like to hear some turkey stories from Virginia, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: and even Old Mexico. Well, my friends, if you said 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: yes to that, you are in luck. This is our 7 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: annual Turkey Stories episode. We've rounded up some of the best, 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: most unique stories that we could find from a completely 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: unique set of Homo sapiens, both old and young, both 10 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: men and women. But what they have in common is 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: a love for spring mornings and wild turkeys. I've said 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: this before, but you can learn a lot just from 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: listening to stories. Today, we're gonna hear from college sophomore 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: Holly Newkirk on our first solo turkey It's good. We'll 15 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: hear from a man who got attacked by Bobcat. We'll 16 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: hear of a man getting shot. We'll hear one bizarre 17 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: story of two shots fired at the same turkey. We'll 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: even hear from Wild Turkey Dot biologist Mike Chamberlain. But sadly, 19 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: one of our storytellers, mister Claude Strawther of Alabama passed 20 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: away in January of twenty twenty six. We recorded a 21 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: story back in the fall, and we'll be posting it posthumously. 22 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 2: I really doubt that you're gonna want to miss this one, 23 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: And hey, you can do me a solid by checking 24 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 2: out my new film about hunting mountain lions in Utah 25 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: with some legendary houndsmen and mule men. It's up on 26 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: the Media to YouTube channel as part of our new 27 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: twelve and twenty six film series. It means that aside 28 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: from our weekly releases on that channel, every month, we're releasing. 29 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: A full scale film. 30 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: Watch and comment and let me know what you think 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: about line management and about riding those mules. My name 32 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 2: is Clay knucom and this is the Bear Grease Podcast, 33 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: where we'll explore things forgotten but relevant, search for insight 34 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: and unlikely places, and where we'll tell the story of 35 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: Americans who lived their lives close to the land. 36 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: Brought to you by to Covi's Boots. 37 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: I'm a cowboy boot man and I've been wearing to 38 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: Covis for years. They're the most comfortable boot I've ever 39 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: put on. Good boots for good times. Here we begin 40 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: found ourselves in the spring. The cyclic nature of this 41 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: life and the hunter's connection to the natural system of 42 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: the earth are astonishing to me. All towered by the 43 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: turning of this globe, the changing of the seasons. What 44 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: it does is it makes me grateful that I've been 45 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: given another spring. Our first story is told from the 46 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: Heart of the Ozarks by auctioneer and squirrel dog man Deluxe, 47 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: Gary Farmer. 48 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: But he's also a turkey hunter, Deluxe. 49 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: This is a story of when his friend Frank recruited 50 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: him to help double team a gobbler, and the conclusion 51 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: of their hunt is so wild it's hard to fathom. 52 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: Here's Gary Frank. 53 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 4: He used to lived out the road here a few 54 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 4: miles was. 55 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 5: Raised up with him. 56 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: He's a big turkey hunter, big hunter of any kin, 57 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 4: and so he tried to call this turkey up for 58 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: quite a while, and he could never get it killed. 59 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 4: And I ran in to him, and he said, I've 60 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 4: got a turkey. I can take you right towards Goblin. 61 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: I can make him gobble. And he said, I can't 62 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: do a. 63 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 5: Thing with him. 64 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: If you'll go with me, I think we can get him. 65 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: So I go with him. 66 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: We go to this spot, and he said, he'll be 67 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: all right over there on that hillside and he'll go 68 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: And he called that turkey gobble, just like he said. 69 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: And I said, if you'll give me a little bit, 70 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 4: I said, I'm going to go around him. But you 71 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 4: know how this country is. You may have to cross 72 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 4: a deep holler to do it, you know. But I 73 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 4: made a big circle and I got around him on 74 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 4: the other side, and that turkey's never heard me call. 75 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 4: A lot of times. You can change calls on a 76 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: gobbler and he will come. Lot of times you can 77 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: change directions on him and you can call him in. 78 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: So anyhow, I'm going to try to hit the other 79 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 4: side of him. We didn't even discuss this, but we 80 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: were thinking the same way. I got over there and 81 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 4: I called, he got he'd start going the other way. 82 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 4: When he did, I'd move in on him. Frank would call, 83 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: he'd start coming my way. He would move in on him. 84 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 4: We didn't even discuss doing that, but I knew what 85 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 4: I was going to do. He was thinking the same way. 86 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 4: We filled with this turkey for thirty or forty five minutes, 87 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 4: and I'm talking I wouldn't crawl but maybe ten steps 88 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 4: at a time. 89 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 5: And tuck forever. 90 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 4: But finally we both closed in on him, and he'd 91 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: go to him, he'd come towards me, back and forth. 92 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: Finally I saw him. I saw the gobbler, and he 93 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 4: was good, and I pulled in on him. I sat 94 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 4: up there and he come to me, and I saw 95 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 4: him and I shot him. And while he is flopping, 96 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 4: we both ran to him opposite directions. I mean, I 97 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 4: was on one side of the gobbler, he is on 98 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 4: the other. And he said, I got him. I finally 99 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 4: got him, and I was all confused because I shot 100 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 4: the turkey. 101 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: Well, I said, did you shoot? 102 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 5: What you mean? 103 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: Did I shoot? 104 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 5: Y'all killed the turkey. 105 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 4: We shot at the exact same time. 106 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: He didn't know that I shot. 107 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 4: I didn't know that he shot, so I just left 108 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 4: it that a way, And he was so tickled that 109 00:06:58,839 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 4: he killed that turkey. 110 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 5: And I didn't even try to claim the turkey. 111 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: But we shaw at the exact same Now, did you 112 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: tell him that you shaw? I finally told. 113 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 5: Him that I did shoot. 114 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is unbelievable. 115 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: That's an honest truth that happened. 116 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: I think the statistical probability of two guys working a 117 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: turkey to the exact spot in shooting at the exact 118 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: same moment such that it sounds like a single shot. 119 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: Is astronomical. And yes, it does make one think about 120 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: safety in the Turkey woods. And that's exactly where the 121 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: next story leads us into Lake Pickle of the Backwoods 122 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: University podcast right here on this feed recorded this story 123 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: for me. It's of his friend mister James Quick, and 124 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: Lake describes mister James as an old school Mississippi turkey 125 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: hunter who is turkey hunting in Covington County when the 126 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: turkey hunters were in the single digits. And this is 127 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: the coolest thing. He only uses his natural voice to 128 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: call turkeys. He once forgot his turkey call and realized 129 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: that he didn't need one. He never turned back. Here's 130 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: mister James Quick with a scary story. 131 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: We went to jeff Davis County one morning and I 132 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: let him out. He went to one field. I went 133 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: on down the road. I let my other hunting buddy 134 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: out and I went to the bottom. It was a 135 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: sixty ac or saw a bean field I walked across 136 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: that had just been chisel plowed. I ask you play 137 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: about that day before you can't hardly walk in it's rough. Well, 138 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: I heard a turkey. I headed towards Lewis, walk just 139 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: as hard to towards the river, as hard as I 140 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: could go. Well, I heard the first my buddy shoot. 141 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: I took him out two or three step and this 142 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: fellow he weighed probably two and forty five fifty pounds, 143 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: need about five ten. You could hear him holler from 144 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: here to Jackson just about it. Well, he hollered. I said, oh, 145 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: he's got that big turkey. He's been after. I took 146 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: through four more steps towards my turkey, and he hollered again. 147 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: I said, well, shoot, what did the world's going on? 148 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: I said, you could be quiet, let the rest of 149 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: us go to our turkey and get one of you 150 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: where you hollered you? Well, he hollered again the third time. 151 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: I knew something had happened. So I turned around, I broke, 152 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: I run till I couldn't run no more, and I 153 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: which I was going back to the truck. I knew 154 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: that I knew their second hunt buddy would get to 155 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: him before I could. I knew I figured he'd slipped 156 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: and filled his gun barrel full of dirt. And his 157 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: gun barrel blowed up on him. Well, I find him 158 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: to the pickup. I blowed the horn, let him know 159 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: I was coming, and I took home. Got up there 160 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: and I started down the log road with my pickup, 161 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: and just before I went over that hill, I saw 162 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: him coming up it. My buddy had him by the 163 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: arm leading him out. He got shot in the back. 164 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: This fellow that had just got out of Partsman the 165 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: week before had decided he's going turkey hunting. Well, my 166 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: buddy was calling the turkey. He was behind a bunch 167 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: of bushes, but he opened over to the right. He 168 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: knew that he's gonna come out in that open, so 169 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: he just changed positions. When he did, this fellow that 170 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: had just got out of Partsment saw him move and 171 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: shot him at the back. 172 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 5: Thought he was the turkey. 173 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: Well, he just shot movement. Saw movement, He saw movement 174 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: and shot him. My gracious hunting. But it knocked him 175 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: completely over. He got him in the right shoulder all 176 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: from a waist all the way up to his ears loose. 177 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: But he had that much of him stick it out, 178 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, out by the tree. It knocked him out 179 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: for a second, but he turned and looked up. He 180 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: saw the man walk up to him and look down 181 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: at him, and the fella says, oh, my goodness, I've 182 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: killed a man. Well, he broke and ruined and he 183 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: stopped at the first house that he could get to, 184 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,359 Speaker 1: and he called the law hisself. But in the meantime 185 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: we got to him and got him into truck and 186 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: we started the hospital callings with him. It was cold 187 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: that morning. He hat on army field jacket. We didn't 188 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: pull it off. We didn't. We're just trying to get 189 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: him to the hospital. And we got on the road 190 00:11:55,240 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: and he says, now, Jamie eat dying. I don't think, 191 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: but says drive safe, but don't waste no time. So 192 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: we come to Conan County Hospital in a hurry and 193 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: got him in there, pulled his clothes off, shot went 194 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: everywhere on that tile floor. Luckily he shot it for 195 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: seven and a half bird shot. But I was in 196 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: there in the emergency room and the nurse and doctor 197 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: Davehead got the other nurse cut his t shirt off. 198 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: You can hold it up, and it looked like a 199 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: screen off of a windows and she said, how many 200 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: shot is in that shell? And I said, ma'am, I 201 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: don't know. She says, well, you help me. Just a 202 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: minute had him laying on the table on his stomach. 203 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: She said, I'm all count and you cover up. When 204 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: I get through, count and I'll count some more. We 205 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: counted between one hundred and seventy five and two hundred 206 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: shot that went in him. 207 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 6: Oh my goodness. 208 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: But all I'm says the good Lord was watching over him. 209 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: I'd say the man it shot, he wasn't called along. 210 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: Game warden got there, got his gun. Guess what the 211 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 1: second shell and his gun was buckshot. 212 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 5: Oh my goodness. 213 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean if it had it been up, if had 214 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: that been the first shot, it would have killed him. 215 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: But he could never go back over there. He the 216 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: rest of the turkey hunt, and he done. He does 217 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: it on his own land. He couldn't go if he 218 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: thought somebody else was gonna be in the woods with him. 219 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: Scarred him. 220 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't blame him, and shake anybody, shake anybody up. 221 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: And when he died, they were still getting he would 222 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: have shot. It would work to the skin and they 223 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: could pick out. No way, that's wild to shame it. 224 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: He didn't get the turkey. 225 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: Well, he told me where turkey was at and he 226 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: told me. He said, I can't go, honey. He said, 227 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: you go get him, said, he said, I've seen him 228 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: that he's he's the biggest that over here. Well, I 229 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: went over there one morning and went to him. He 230 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't gobble. All I could hear was a big old turkey. 231 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: Sound like a jake, I said, Well, I called to him, 232 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: see what it is. I called that turkey up. That's 233 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: the biggest turkey that I've ever seen. At the biggest 234 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: beard on a turkey. I blowed leaves all over him 235 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: at twelve steps. Oh no, I just I clean missed you. 236 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: Never did I never did go back, honey anymore. Yeah, 237 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: never did go back, honey anymore. 238 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: This guy had over one hundred and seventy five pellets 239 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: in his back, and almost all ti of hunting involving firearms. 240 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: We wear hunter's orange or. 241 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: High visibility colors so that others can see us, except 242 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: turkey hunting, because those rascals can seek color, so you 243 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: got to be camoed out. That's also why they don't 244 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: let us use rifles. Because shotguns are close range guns. 245 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: You really got to be able to identify your target 246 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: before you shoot. But that doesn't always happen. Turkey hunting 247 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: can be dangerous, but don't let that keep you out 248 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: of the woods. I think the key for all of 249 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: us is to be a little paranoid, not of getting shot, 250 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: but of shooting someone. I think the responsibilities got to 251 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: be on each of us individually. It sends chills down 252 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: my spine to think of shooting someone. My dad, Gary 253 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: Believer Nukem, was once in a camp where a guy 254 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: got peppered in the back and it really ended up 255 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: being kind of inconsequential. It didn't do a lot of 256 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: harm to the guy, but just scared everybody. But with 257 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: today's loads, it could be serious. And sorry to get 258 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: serious so quick, but I've got a question for you 259 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: that's going to solve your little conundrum of being stressed 260 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: out about getting shot while turkey hunting. And that is 261 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: what is a Bear Grease Turkey Stories episode without a 262 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: story from Arkansas's Andy Brown. 263 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: I mean, really here, he is our buddy Andy. 264 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: He's got a short story he told me about hunting 265 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: with one of his best buddies back in the nineteen 266 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: eighties when it was legal to kill two birds in 267 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: a single day on a three bird limit. 268 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 7: Me and my old buddy Wayne. We cracked thousands of 269 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 7: miles after turkeys. But but anyway, me and Wayne, we 270 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 7: went up on the mountain one morning and parked the 271 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 7: rig right on the highway and we went south off 272 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 7: the mountain. We knew where there was a couple of 273 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 7: big saddles. We got off down there at daylight and 274 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 7: went into the first saddle, and I mean it was 275 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 7: a fine morning, man. You could have heard one five 276 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 7: miles probably that morning, but nothing. And so we just 277 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 7: went right on through that one and dropped on off 278 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 7: down into the second saddle. And when we walked through it, 279 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 7: we got out on the south end of it there 280 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 7: and just as far as you could hear, I mean, 281 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 7: at the bottom of the mountain, there was a couple 282 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 7: of turkeys. 283 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 5: Got one down there. 284 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 7: And Wayne and said, what are you gonna do? I said, Wayne, 285 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 7: that's a long that's a long ways. I mean, that's 286 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 7: that's a long ways down there. He said, well, we 287 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 7: ain't got nothing else to do. I said, well come on, 288 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 7: And that's when I said, you know, I said, that's 289 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 7: probably my thirties. Then, you know, it didn't really matter. 290 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 7: It was all downhill. And so we get off there 291 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 7: and those turkeys are in an old road at the 292 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 7: bottom of the mountain that we could have drove to 293 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 7: if we didn't. If we didn't do they were there, 294 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 7: but I mean it's a long ways off the top 295 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 7: of the mountain. And we get down there and we 296 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 7: got set up, and anyway, I put in calling those 297 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 7: turkeys and they were just they just they were in 298 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 7: the road and I knew they were, but they just 299 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 7: here they come. They were just they were just turning 300 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 7: handsprings down there, I mean this Coppinger tail off. And 301 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 7: they came up there and Wayne was sitting to my 302 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 7: left and anyway, has gun up and I can't remember 303 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 7: Wayne shot a I think it was a eleven hundred 304 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 7: and three inch magnum, which in those days was the gun, 305 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 7: you know. Anyway, those turkey I seen this soul God 306 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 7: were coming up the leg down there, and I thought 307 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 7: was way too far. And about that time of Wayne 308 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 7: just curl wham, you know, And when he did, I 309 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 7: seen a turkey fly and I seen Wayne he shot again, 310 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 7: you know, and I said. 311 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 6: Why in the world did you shoot at that dirty 312 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 6: so far? He like, kill two? What do you want 313 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 6: me to do? He said, you know? 314 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 3: And so we go down there. 315 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 5: And he killed two biggins. 316 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm talking about them that had feels like 317 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 7: they got the brick in their chest. You know. Of course, 318 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 7: it was one of them warm April mornings, and in 319 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 7: it was I mean, it's just straight up, and I 320 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 7: mean you got to go back through two saddles, and 321 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 7: once you get through them, it's still. But we finally 322 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 7: pulled out of there. I mean we slathered up to hot. 323 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: Kwam and he said very usual. 324 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 2: Edy's story involved intimate details of the cardinal directions, sound effects, 325 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: and as always, a hearty laugh. That was a good one, 326 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: and our next story will probably also get a hearty 327 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: laugh from you, or at least a smile, because it 328 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: is from the University of Arkansas College sophomore Holly Newkirk. 329 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: She has such a fresh, energizing story and she did 330 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: something that was really hard. I think you're gonna hear 331 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: a passion in her voice that's real and genuine. And 332 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: I also want to note that this isn't her first gobbler. 333 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: She's killed many, she's a veteran, but this is the 334 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: first bird that she killed completely solo. I think you're 335 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: gonna see what I mean this is a great story. 336 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 8: I'm Holly Newkirk and I'm from Devallswaff, Arkansas, but I'm 337 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 8: a student at the University of Arkansas. And last sprink, 338 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 8: I killed my first turkey by myself or moved to 339 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 8: Faville in the fall and didn't really like it up 340 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 8: here because there wasn't enough honey going on. And so 341 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 8: when spring came around, I was like, there's a bunch 342 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 8: of mountains up here. I'm going to find her turkey 343 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 8: honey land. So during like January February ish, I started 344 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 8: looking on on X. I was trying to find like 345 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 8: big chunks of land where I thought it'd be good. 346 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 8: And I found this one person and he had like 347 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 8: probably around two hundred acres and so I put his 348 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 8: address on my phone and I drive down like four 349 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 8: miles of gravel roads by myself, and as I pull 350 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 8: up to his house, there is ten strutters in his 351 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 8: yard and I'm like, I have hit a gold mine. 352 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 8: He ends up giving me the permission to hunt his land. 353 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 8: I call my down the way home. I'm like shaking 354 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 8: of excitement. So turkey season comes around. I have gone 355 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 8: to his place like three different times since then to 356 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 8: scout where I think the turkeys are, and I found 357 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 8: a spot that I thought was ideal. So opening morning comes, 358 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 8: I go to his house. He wants me to stop 359 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 8: by his house and talk to him first before I 360 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 8: go out. He's like, hey, there might be somebody hunting 361 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 8: this side of the property line, but you hunt this side, 362 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 8: like you have all that land on that side. And 363 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 8: I'm like, okay, sounds perfect. So day it's already cracking daylight. 364 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 8: I'm scared of the dark, scared of coyotes, so I 365 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 8: wait to live it for daylight. I get to where 366 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 8: I was trying to go and they immediately start gobbling 367 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 8: and I'm like, oh my word, like they were closed. 368 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 8: I'm like they're on coping me already and I'm not 369 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 8: where I'm trying to get yet. So I just kind 370 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 8: of sit down by this tree and I'm like, okay. 371 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 8: So I have my dcoy beside me, and I'm like, 372 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 8: maybe I should put it out, but I want to 373 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 8: be able to crawl around if I want to. The 374 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 8: turkey's like going different direction, so I get my gum 375 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 8: beside me, have my dkoe beside me, and they're just hammering, 376 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 8: just non stop the whole time. So I sit there. 377 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 8: I don't really make any calls. I'm kind of quiet, 378 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 8: want to see what they're gonna do when getting daylighter 379 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 8: closer to fly down. I make a little call here 380 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,239 Speaker 8: and there. They cut me off every time, and I'm like, 381 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 8: oh my word, and so I thought I was in 382 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 8: the money. I put my dakoy like ten feet in 383 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 8: front of me and just like set it out a 384 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 8: little way so they could see it in case they 385 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 8: needed to. And I kind of hit behind this tree 386 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 8: a little bit. And I'm sitting there and I'm ready. 387 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 8: Fly down comes. I see a hen fly down, and 388 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 8: I hear another one down. That's all I see. I 389 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 8: see them fly the opposite direction, and I'm like, that's 390 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 8: not ideal, but maybe they'll come around. They kind of 391 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 8: shut up for a minute, and I'm like, oh no, okay, 392 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 8: So I make a little more call. Nothing happens, and 393 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 8: I'm like that's weird. And so I start ooching around 394 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 8: a little bit around this fence line and then they 395 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 8: start cranking up again, and I'm like, okay, I know 396 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 8: where they are now. They're across this draw from me 397 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 8: and a beautiful pasture that's over there, and I can 398 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 8: get to them, and they're goblin again, just NonStop, NonStop. 399 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 8: So I get over there. I get closer. As I'm 400 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 8: walking through the woods, I booger two hens and I'm like, 401 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 8: oh no, and I kind of freeze for a minute, 402 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 8: and then they like put off, but not anything too serious. 403 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 8: They just did a little putt off and ran away 404 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 8: a little bit. I get to where I want to be, 405 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 8: by this tree right where I can see over this pasture, 406 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 8: you know it like has a little crest over the pasture, 407 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 8: and I'm calling they're cutting me off. I see two heads, 408 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 8: bright red heads, coming at me, and I'm like, oh, 409 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 8: this is perfect. They're coming. I'm shaking so bad. And 410 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 8: I hear another one gobble off to my left a 411 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 8: little bit. I'm like, okay, so there's three long goods 412 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 8: right here. This is a great I have a laser 413 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 8: on my gun, so I get my laser on. I'm 414 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 8: sending up I got I'm sitting there. I'm sitting there 415 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 8: and I'm like, okay, I need about twenty more steps 416 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 8: twenty yards or so, and they're gonna be like ideal. 417 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 8: They're on the edge of range then, but a little bit. 418 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 8: But I just wanted them to be close. I didn't 419 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 8: want to risk it. They're coming into good Send. There, 420 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 8: somebody besides me shoots. I freak out. I'm like, won 421 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 8: the world. I see the turkey what I thought flopped, 422 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 8: and then I see the other one running and I'm like, 423 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 8: oh my gosh, someone just shot my turkey right out 424 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 8: from under me. And I'm like, I know I'm on 425 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 8: the right property line. And I see two guys from 426 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 8: this tree line that's just like fifty yards for me, 427 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 8: running towards the turkey, and I'm like what in the world. 428 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 8: And then I like immediately duck down back into the 429 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 8: drawl and I'm like hi because I was scared, and 430 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 8: I'm checking on neck. I'm like, I know ONEm we're 431 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 8: supposed to be calling my dad. Freaking out, and I'm 432 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 8: like crying at this point because I'm like, I had 433 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 8: these turkeys in my lap and someone just shot my bird, 434 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 8: and I'm like trying to ease over and see them, 435 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 8: and I see them, but they're walking away and they 436 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 8: don't I'm a bird, and I'm like what happened? And 437 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 8: then it starts drizzling raining. At this point, I go 438 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 8: under a big cedar tree. I kind of hide from 439 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 8: the rain a little bit, kind of get myself together. 440 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 8: I'm regrouping, like I'm just gonna wait a minute there. 441 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 8: The shot shouldn't scare them off too much, Like there's 442 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 8: still two other birds around, I know, and sit there, 443 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 8: wait for the rain to pass, and then I start 444 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 8: like just easing around the fence lines, going up and 445 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 8: down the draws on the fence line. Everything for probably 446 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 8: about an hour and a half, calling every now and then, 447 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 8: crow calling every now and then. Nothing was happening, nothing 448 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 8: was cranking up. I was sad. I was on the 449 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 8: phone my dad and my dad this is just heartbreaking, 450 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 8: and he's like, Holly, stay with it. And I'm like, okay, Dad, 451 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 8: I'll stay with it. And I'm like, it's been an 452 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 8: hour and a half, two hours, i haven't heard anything. 453 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 8: And I look at the property line. I'm like, okay, 454 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 8: he told me to stay on this side, but somebody 455 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 8: else was hunting this side and shot my bird out 456 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 8: from under me already, So I'm gonna go to the 457 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 8: side that he told me I shouldn't go to because 458 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 8: somebody's gonna be hunting there. Seeple that were hunting apparently 459 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 8: didn't know what side either. So I'm like, okay, I'll 460 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 8: just go to their side now, and I'm like, he 461 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 8: really didn't. He just said they'll be there early morning, 462 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 8: but he said they wouldn't be there long. So I'm like, okay, 463 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 8: I should be clear. Nobody should be out here. And 464 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 8: I hadn't scouted this side yet because I was like, 465 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 8: it was thick, it wasn't really pretty. I was like, no, 466 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 8: this is not ideal. I kind of giving up, and 467 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 8: I'm like, I'm sad. I've walked miles now, up and 468 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 8: down everything, and I'm just kind of open pasture, not 469 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 8: really hot, and and I have to move this gate. 470 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 8: And as I move this gate, I drop it and 471 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 8: I hear what I thought was a gobble, like a 472 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 8: shot gobble from the gate dropping, but I wasn't for sure. 473 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 8: So I'm like, no, I'm just hearing stuff because I 474 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 8: want to hear something. And so I picked the gay 475 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 8: back up. I'm not being quiet. I go and stand 476 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 8: by this tree that's like probably thirty yards from the gate, 477 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 8: and I just do a slight little yelp on my 478 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 8: slate call and immediately right on top of me, and 479 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 8: I'm like, WHOA Like, I like froze and I'm like, wow, 480 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 8: that's right on top of me. I threw my decoy down. 481 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 8: I threw the fan down, and I'm like, okay, I 482 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 8: can't sit here. I'm not going about to see where 483 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 8: he's coming up from. I have trees right in front 484 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 8: of me, and there's an opening over here. So I 485 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 8: run to this tree and there's like a bob while 486 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 8: I wrap around the bottom of the tree. I'm like, 487 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 8: that's gonna hurt if I sit against it. So I 488 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 8: sat a little bit in front of it, and I 489 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 8: wasn't very like comfortable where I was city. But this 490 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 8: tart he had already gobbled two more times just for 491 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 8: me to run fifty yards from one tree to the 492 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 8: next tree. And I was like duck down trying to 493 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 8: run in this tall grass. And I'm like, okay, I 494 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 8: have my die frapping my mouth so I could call 495 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 8: if I needed to, sou I didn't want to use 496 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 8: my hands, didn't want to make too much movement. And 497 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 8: he's just gobbling again. It's like he's worked up. He's 498 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 8: coming and he's getting closer. I'm messing with my laser 499 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 8: on my gun. I can't get it on and im 500 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 8: freaking out. Like I'm sitting there pushing my laser trying 501 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 8: to get it on, can't get it on. He gobbles again, 502 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 8: and I can hear I've never heard drumming in my life, 503 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 8: and I hear drumming, and I'm like, this bird is 504 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 8: on top of me and I just can't see him. Yeah, 505 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 8: I finally get my laser on. I get set up. 506 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 8: I'm like kind of free balling cause I didn't want 507 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 8: to get against the tree. So I'm sitting there, have 508 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 8: my arms on my knees, and I hear drumming, like 509 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 8: loud drumming. He gobbles again, and like it shook me 510 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 8: the way he gobbled. It was shaking my bones. So 511 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 8: I looked to my left and I see the very 512 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 8: tip of his head and I see it and I'm like, 513 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 8: oh my gosh, he's right there. So I try to 514 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 8: like easily move and I'm like beating up on him, 515 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 8: and I get on him and I just want him 516 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 8: to talk a little bit more because I didn't want to, 517 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 8: like shoot just too much of his head. And I 518 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 8: see his fan. He's in complete strut and I'm like, 519 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 8: this is beautiful. And I sit there and he's stilling strut. 520 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 8: He pops his head up just a little bit and 521 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 8: I shoot him and he falls immediately, and I'm like ah, 522 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 8: and so I jump up immediately. I'm grabbing my phone 523 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 8: in my pocket, trying to call my dad, trying to 524 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 8: FaceTime him because I want him to be there with me, 525 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 8: running to the turkey, and I trip. I fall over 526 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 8: on the ground to get my phone. I'm like, face 527 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 8: up with my dad. He immediately answers. I start crying. 528 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 8: I'm just so excited, and my dad's like in the 529 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 8: parking line in front of his office in literal because 530 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 8: he works in the little he's front of his office 531 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 8: and he's like, no way, Holly, no way. And I 532 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 8: showed the turkey. It was beautiful. It was just the 533 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 8: most awesome thing ever. I'm on FaceTime with him, and 534 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 8: he starts in the parking lot crying because he's so 535 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 8: excited for me too, and it's just the best thing ever. 536 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 8: I sat there with that turkey and prayed for a 537 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 8: long time how thankful I was, even though it started 538 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 8: I as a bad hunt, ended up being so good 539 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 8: and so awesome. Sit there and pray for the turkey 540 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 8: for a while. Dad was on the calling my sisters. 541 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 8: It was the best thing ever. Just got my first 542 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 8: turkey by myself with just one call. 543 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: All I say to that is dad gum. 544 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: That was some good work, Hollie, incredible good job on 545 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: the a ax hustle and hanging in there after a 546 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: disappointment and even a little scare at daylight. This wasn't 547 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: done on purpose, but there seems to be a pretty 548 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: legit safety theme in these episodes. We've just got to 549 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: be careful out there, and what the heck. I'll give 550 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 2: you another hot tip for turkey hutting safety that I 551 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: learned from old Gary believer Nukem myself, and that is 552 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: he likes to wear glasses when he turkey hunts, and 553 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: so do I. I wear contacts, I sometimes wear glasses. 554 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: I like to wear glasses because you never know, it's 555 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: possible to get peppered, and you want to be able 556 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: to protect your eyes. Our next story is from Old 557 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: Mexico and involves a twist that would be hard to predict. 558 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 2: But it would also be hard to predict how unique 559 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: Zoe Kaywood is. She's from Oreagle, Arkansas, and is a 560 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: veteran turkey hunter. She's in her seventies and she only 561 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: uses a flint lock musloader. 562 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 9: I'm Zoe Medland Kwood from war Eagle, And you know, 563 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 9: I was thinking about this the other day, about what 564 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 9: happened when I was going for the World Slam and 565 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 9: I went down to northern Mexico to hunt the Goulds turkey. 566 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 9: You have to get a military permit to even get 567 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 9: a gun in, even though it was a black powder gun, 568 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 9: because I was going for a World Slam with a 569 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 9: black powder gun, and it wasn't just a percussion cap. 570 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 9: It was a flint lock. So when we finally got 571 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 9: all the papers, which are Kentucky turkey biologists, he helped 572 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 9: me with all this and we finally got that gun in, 573 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 9: and there were so many turkeys before I got there. 574 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 9: Isn't that typical of turkey hunting, though, But when we 575 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 9: got there, we hunted for three solid days. Of course, 576 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 9: my guide was a Mexican and he didn't speak any 577 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 9: English at all. He was a very congenial guy and 578 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 9: really respectful of me, but no English at all, So 579 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 9: if I wanted to ask him anything, if he didn't 580 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 9: understand my sign language. When we got back home to 581 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 9: the lodge, then the outfitter there, he would, you know, 582 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 9: have to explain to translate. So I told the outfitter 583 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 9: to please explain to him that this was a flintlock. 584 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 9: So if he was gonna hunt close to me like 585 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 9: he did on the very first day of the few 586 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 9: hours we were out, he needed to sit away from 587 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 9: the either on the left hand side of me, or 588 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 9: several feet back or a couple of feet back away 589 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 9: from the right otherwise he was going to get sprayed 590 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 9: with that flint when it went off. So it really 591 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 9: put the fright in him. It frightened him so badly 592 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 9: that whenever he sit behind me from that time on, 593 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 9: he would be like twenty twenty five feet back. I 594 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 9: mean I could I couldn't talk to him or anything, 595 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 9: you know, because it couldn't communicate. You didn't want to 596 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 9: do that in the Turkey woods and make any noise 597 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 9: because he was so far back because he's afraid of 598 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 9: that flint lock spray. So we hunted for three days, 599 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 9: and on the evening of the third day, we heard 600 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 9: some birds going to roost and we thought, oh, maybe 601 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 9: this is it because it had been so dry around 602 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 9: there as far as birds for us. Completely three days 603 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 9: and The thing about Mexico that I just love is 604 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 9: there is absolutely no sound when you hunt in Mexico. 605 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 9: You don't hear a train, you don't hear a plane, 606 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 9: You certainly don't hear a car. You don't hear the 607 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 9: clop clop of the horses and mules that they used 608 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 9: in the village. You don't hear anything. Perfect silence. It's 609 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 9: just absolutely wonderful. So where we roosted those birds was 610 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 9: a big, long valley and the next morning, of course, 611 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 9: we were out there way big early, so we get 612 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 9: all set up and we hear gobbles and it's a 613 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 9: big bird, I'm sure, sounding off. And I looked back 614 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 9: there to see where he is, of course, way far back, 615 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 9: as I said, and that I started calling, and he 616 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 9: was calling as well, And now I was calling, he 617 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 9: was calling, and that bird then flew down off roost 618 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 9: and he was coming my way. And when I saw him, 619 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 9: I saw right behind him was a bobcat, And I 620 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 9: mean this was a big Mexican bobcat. And it just 621 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 9: I was so concentrated on that bird that I didn't 622 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 9: even think about that bobcat from then on. When that 623 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 9: when that bird got within my range, I pulled that trigger, 624 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 9: and that spark blue and that that kwood gun just 625 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 9: went off. 626 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 8: And I looked back to see. 627 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 9: Where my man was, and he was completely he was 628 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 9: flat out on the ground. He's just kicking his feet 629 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 9: with joy like this, but his heart was just pounding, 630 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 9: and he just goes. He goes like this in sign language, 631 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 9: and he says, the bobcat, the cat, the cat. And 632 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 9: what had happened was I was so concentrated on that 633 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 9: bird that Bobcat actually jumped and tried to get that 634 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 9: gobbler when I shot, and I actually splattered him was 635 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 9: shot at the same time. But I didn't get to 636 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 9: all this translate until we got back home and back 637 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 9: to the little village and the outfitter could translate it. 638 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 9: So we took that man out though, and anybody that 639 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 9: wanted to after I had got my bird the next 640 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 9: day and see if they wanted to shoot a flint lock, 641 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 9: because none of them had. They hadn't even seen a 642 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 9: flint lock before, you know. So we went out there 643 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 9: and when he shot that flint lock, when he pulled 644 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 9: that trigger, his head went like that. Of course, he 645 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 9: completely missed the target, but it was so much fun 646 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 9: and he loved the experience of least trying to shoot 647 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 9: that fire bomb. 648 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 2: What are the chances to shoot a big Mexican gobbler 649 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 2: at the same time a bobcat is about to pounce 650 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 2: on that exact gobbler. 651 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 3: That wasn't that gobbler's day? And what a special lady. 652 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: When we met her, we found out that she killed 653 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 2: a mountain lion with Warner Glenn and Kelly Kimbro Warner's daughter, 654 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: back in nineteen seventy one. 655 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 3: That is crazy. What a small world that we live in. 656 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 2: Our next story is from a well known turkey biologist, 657 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 2: Mike Chamberlain. And this man can't open his mouth to 658 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 2: talk about turkeys without teaching folks something. Here is one 659 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 2: of his stories from way back in Virginia, before he'd 660 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: ever killed a gobbler. Way back here's doctor Chamberlain. 661 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 10: I was at Virginia Tech. 662 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 5: I was a student. 663 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 10: I was new to turkey hunting, and I screwed up 664 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 10: so much. And I had hunted this bird on National 665 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 10: forest land and he was roosting on the way up 666 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 10: on the side of a mountain, and it would take 667 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 10: me about an hour ish to hike up to him. 668 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 10: And every day, he would fly down onto a bench, 669 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 10: but I could never figure out and once he got 670 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 10: on the bench to saddle if you will, he would 671 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 10: predictably go one direction or the other, depending on the day. 672 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 10: But I could never get to him in the dark 673 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 10: to really pin him down to where if he went left, 674 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 10: I'd be there. If he went right, I could never 675 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 10: figure out exactly where he was going. Well, one afternoon. 676 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 10: Now this is like ten hunts in my grades are 677 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 10: suffering because and I get up and I'm there in 678 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 10: the afternoon, and I hear and I'm like, all right, 679 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 10: and so he flies up, and I know exactly where 680 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 10: this joker is. I wait till pitch black. I ease 681 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 10: myself down the mountain. I get back to campus in 682 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 10: the dark, dark way after dark. I'm stoked, dude, I'm 683 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 10: so I'm gonna kill this bird. I get up the 684 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 10: next morning, up in the dark. I think I got 685 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 10: up at like two thirty because I want to make 686 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 10: sure nobody got to the spot. I get there, I 687 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 10: hike nobody's around, I get perfect, I'm like one hundred 688 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 10: and fifty yards. I'm like, as soon as I'm do 689 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 10: a tree, yelp and he gobbles and I'm like, perfect, 690 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 10: I do a slick call of time and do a 691 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 10: real soft yep and he cut me off. I'm like, oh, 692 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 10: this is ballgame. And I even my dumb self knew 693 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 10: to shut up now now, so I didn't call again. Well, 694 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 10: he sits there, and he sits there and he never 695 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 10: got out again. And it gets daylight and I'm really 696 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,959 Speaker 10: starting you've been there, and You're like, I'm gonna call 697 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 10: one time just to see where he's at. And I 698 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 10: hit a soft yelp and I hear I hear him 699 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 10: fly out and I'm like oh, and I get on 700 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 10: the gun. I'm like, here he comes. I look to 701 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 10: my right, that joker is flying down the mountain. That 702 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 10: bird sailed completely out of my sight down that mountain 703 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 10: and I never saw him again, and I came back 704 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 10: to hunt him several days later. 705 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 5: And he was gone. 706 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 10: I was so deflated that I just like I quit. 707 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 6: I can't do this. 708 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 10: And I'd never killed a spring turkey at that time, 709 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,760 Speaker 10: and I was like, I can't do this, like I'm 710 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 10: not capable of doing this, and that bird made me 711 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 10: so upset and I've never gotten over it. I was like, 712 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 10: that bird should have come down that gun barrel when 713 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 10: he cut me off, and he literally knew something was wrong, 714 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 10: and he flew off the mountain, not to return. Once 715 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 10: I started really fall hunting, we fall hunted a lot. Once. 716 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 10: I killed a few birds in the fall, which was 717 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 10: before this point. But I killed a few birds in 718 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 10: the fall, and when I started the spring hunting, I 719 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 10: realized that it was a different ballgame completely. I ended 720 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 10: up killing a few more birds in the fall, and 721 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 10: then I got lucky. I called a bird in the 722 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 10: following season after this happened. I called a bird in 723 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 10: but he was filling a hen and she was very content, 724 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 10: and I watched her approach me, and she was feeding 725 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 10: along and she would call back to me. She wasn't 726 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 10: agitated at me, but I listened to how she was behaving, 727 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 10: and I watched her, and I listened to the noise 728 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 10: that she was making in the leaves. I soaked that 729 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 10: in and I watched his reaction to everything, and I 730 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 10: just shut up, and I sat there and listened to 731 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 10: that bird and watched how And it took her over 732 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 10: an hour to get from the bottom to where I 733 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 10: killed him. And I can still, I can close my 734 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 10: eyes and I can still see that joker strutting up 735 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 10: behind that hen, and the realization that she's going to 736 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 10: walk right past me. And if I just sit here, 737 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 10: he's dead. I'm gonna kill him. And I, of course, 738 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 10: I was literally hyperventilating, and then you know, sweating and 739 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 10: falling apart, and I was staring at him so hard, 740 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 10: you know, you get the spiders in your eyes, and 741 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 10: I'm starting to have to twitch my eyes because I've 742 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 10: been staring at him so intently. And when I shot him, 743 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 10: I was so elated. I like fell apart. I ran 744 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 10: up to that bird and was on him so fast 745 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 10: that I probably should have gotten injured. Like I threw, 746 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 10: I dropped the gun and took off running towards him. 747 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 10: And when I got to him, I didn't even know 748 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 10: what to do. You know, you watched it on videos 749 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 10: and stuff in VHS. I didn't know whether to grab 750 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 10: his legs or his head or to lay on him. 751 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 8: I didn't. 752 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 7: I was lost. 753 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 10: I was just I was dumbfounded. And I can finally remember, 754 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 10: you know, of course, he's flopping around everything, and I 755 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 10: can remember trying to keep him from flopping off. And 756 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 10: then I saw a feather come out, and I was like, 757 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 10: oh no, no, no, no, no, I don't I don't 758 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 10: want to lose any you know. And there was no 759 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 10: cell phones and I didn't have a camera to take 760 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 10: a picture. 761 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 3: Of him or anything. 762 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 10: But I didn't want him to lose any of those 763 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 10: feathers so I could admire it. And so I finally like, 764 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 10: I'm gonna lay on him. So I laid on that 765 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 10: bird to keep him from flopping. And once I realized 766 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 10: I knew he was dead, I just sat there and 767 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 10: admired him. And I still do that, but I learned 768 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 10: from that. I was like, if you just slow down 769 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 10: and try to sound subtle and calm and use the vegetation, 770 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 10: use your intellect, use very very very subtle calls, and 771 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 10: you just go slow, that you can be successful rather 772 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 10: than just running all the time. And that is how 773 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 10: I have turkey hunted ever since. And I sometimes it 774 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 10: works for me and sometimes it doesn't. That day, that 775 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 10: day hooked me, but she taught me if you just 776 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 10: just wait, slow down and be patient, and I'll get 777 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 10: him there. Slow down and go fast is what DY learn. 778 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 10: Art once said, sometimes you have to slow down and 779 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 10: go fast. 780 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 2: Slow down to go fast. That's some good advice. Our 781 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 2: final story is unique for multiple reasons. Our storyteller, mister 782 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 2: Claude Strather, was attacked and injured well Turkey Huddon. But secondly, 783 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 2: mister Claud passed away in January of twenty twenty six, 784 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 2: and we're releasing this story in celebration of his life. 785 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,439 Speaker 3: Here's miss your clock. 786 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 5: Claudestralla Gasterberg, Alabama. I started hunting, I don't know seventy 787 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 5: one or two, maybe seventy, and uh if hunted ever since? 788 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,959 Speaker 5: Done real well, I've I think I've caught up eighty 789 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 5: three for other people and killed two hundred and forty 790 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 5: seven myself, and uh, I've just been steady. I got 791 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 5: them all catalog and read. Let you read about any 792 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 5: hunter I ever been on, because I got it in 793 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 5: my books. Whether I kill a turkey or not, we're 794 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 5: gonna talk about my bobcat attacked. My daughter made me 795 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 5: famous for this because I had a great picture with 796 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 5: a lot of blood. But uh, I wasn't supposed to 797 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 5: be out of the house reading. My wife had gone 798 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 5: to Eastern I told her I was too sick to go. 799 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 5: She left, and I down in the wood, roll down. 800 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,479 Speaker 5: I knew it was some turkeys there, and I sat 801 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 5: by two small trees because I couldn't find a big 802 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 5: one that was clean enough, perfect camouflage heading it, and 803 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 5: was sitting and the only thing yep was my head 804 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 5: moving back and forth, real slow every now and then, 805 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, it was like a baseball 806 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 5: bat drove me forward. I blinked and raised my hand 807 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 5: and looked back, thinking it was a baseball bat somebody, 808 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 5: and it was just kind of a glaze back to 809 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 5: the beautiful park, looking no track. And then I looked 810 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 5: back around and shook my head and there was a 811 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 5: big bobcat walking off about fifteen yards from him. He hit, 812 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 5: thinking my head was a hootile or hawk or smaller animal. 813 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 8: And. 814 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 5: What saved me. He caught right above my eyes but 815 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 5: bit the back of my neck, but so hard it 816 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 5: stunned him also, and so he didn't go all the 817 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 5: way in as he hit. It stunned him and he 818 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 5: released and kind of and came over my head. Or 819 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 5: he really could have done some damage. But I had 820 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 5: a good picture of blood everywhere, just scratches, superficial scratches 821 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 5: here and back of the head. Yeah, nothing didn't go 822 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 5: away pretty quick. 823 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 3: He was just done. 824 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 5: He was trying to get some deep I didn't I 825 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 5: wouldn't have shot him, for he'd a walk back up, 826 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 5: you know, unless he was foaming at the mouth, you know, 827 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 5: But he was just. 828 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 3: Doing his thing. 829 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 5: I love bobcats. I shoot cows, and I will shoot 830 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 5: the armadilla. They walked in here. Bobcat's been here forever. 831 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 5: So if foxes beavers, I don't see anything that was 832 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 5: here before me. You know, they got a right to 833 00:45:54,239 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 5: be here. Hunted David Brown now hunted all over the 834 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,919 Speaker 5: country together. Seven we went south Dakota, and he came 835 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 5: seven jakes up the hill and two big gobbles about 836 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 5: a hundred yards behind. We're trapped. We're laying flat down 837 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,879 Speaker 5: on top of on the gray. I told David he'll 838 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,439 Speaker 5: come seven monsters, got monsters. They popped over here. I said, 839 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 5: kill him. David. The monsters, well, he blasted away, and 840 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 5: it was a jake I knew, and I said, now 841 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 5: stay still. I went back top and those two big 842 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 5: gobbles never slowed down right, hold up. I swung a 843 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 5: little to the left. He's around there and killed one 844 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 5: of them, and David said, I killed her jake. 845 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 3: I said, oh no, really. 846 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 5: You, he said, you pull that one off of me. 847 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 3: I did. 848 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 5: I snaked his butt on that one. But we hunted 849 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 5: Indian reservations also, and this was on the end of 850 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 5: the reservation, and turkey's further west. You gets easier all 851 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 5: to kill. You can kill a turkey out there now. 852 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 5: It ain't like Alabama, majority of Mississippi. It's a whole 853 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 5: different world. But I had had some great trips, and 854 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 5: I had a good year this year. I had a 855 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 5: little having some health problem, but had a little break, 856 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 5: felt good a few days and actually killed three and 857 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 5: called up one from grandson he killed and one for 858 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 5: his girlfriend. And had to get help getting one of 859 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 5: mine out the woods. I went down a hill too big, 860 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 5: and I couldn't get up to hill with two weak 861 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 5: to try dragging him, and I couldn't even drag him. 862 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 5: I made it up, sent somebody else to get my 863 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 5: gun in Turkey late. I don't have much win in 864 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 5: right now, but h and hopefully I'll be in the 865 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 5: woods again next year. Maybe Lord Willis. 866 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,280 Speaker 2: Mister claud didn't make it back into the woods this spring. 867 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 2: But what joy you could hear in his voice as 868 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 2: he recounted the stories of hunting the wild turkey. But 869 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 2: what stood out to me was that he seemed to 870 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 2: love and value all the people that he hunted with, 871 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 2: and it seems like yet a lot of people around 872 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 2: him at the end, even keeping track of every turkey 873 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 2: he ever called up for other people. I keep seeing 874 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 2: this more and more with greater clarity. Our experiences in 875 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 2: wild places get so much of their value and the 876 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,800 Speaker 2: people that we share them with, and the people that 877 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 2: we have relationship with that even want to hear our stories. 878 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 2: The best thing that you can do today is to 879 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,439 Speaker 2: build strong and healthy relationships with the people that God 880 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 2: has placed in your life that are within arm's reach 881 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 2: of you. How many turkeys you kill in your lifetime 882 00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 2: doesn't matter unless you've got people around you care. 883 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 3: And that's the truth. What a great set of stories. 884 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 2: I cannot thank you enough for listening, and thank you 885 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 2: for listening to this feed with Lake Pickles, Backwoods University 886 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,319 Speaker 2: and with Brents this Country life podcast. These guys are 887 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 2: so talented in what they do. But the theme of 888 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 2: this episode seems to be be careful in the woods 889 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:28,280 Speaker 2: this spring. Another hot tip from Gary Nukeom he always 890 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 2: told me not to wear anything red blue or white, 891 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,399 Speaker 2: even like a white undershirt, the little v that might 892 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 2: be in a white undershirt or even white socks that 893 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 2: might be visible when you sit down and crouch by 894 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 2: a tree. 895 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 3: Be cautious and conservative. 896 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 2: When hunting public ground or any place you think others 897 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 2: might be, and also where you can do your part 898 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 2: to restore some quality turkey habitat, whether that's doing a 899 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 2: burn or timber thinning on your land that you hunt, 900 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 2: or by joining one of the turkey conservation organizations like 901 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 2: Turkey's for Tomorrow or the National Wild Turkey Federation. Some 902 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 2: of my buddies just started a group called the Wild 903 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 2: Turkey Archives, which is a wild Turkey history organization. There's 904 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,240 Speaker 2: a lot that we can do to keep the wild 905 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 2: places wild because that's where the turkeys live and the 906 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:17,760 Speaker 2: bears