Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: your host A Many Parasites Katie Golden. I studied psychology
Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show Terrible Teeth
Speaker 1: Chilling Choppers mouths straight from Satan's sketchbook. Every animal handles
Speaker 1: eating in slightly different ways, and some decide to turn
Speaker 1: meal time into an mc escher hr Geiger crossover event.
Speaker 1: From adorable penguins to innocent looking fish, these animals are
Speaker 1: hiding a mouth straight from your dentist's nightmares. Discover this
Speaker 1: more as we answer the angel question which animal do
Speaker 1: you least want to see with human teeth? Joining me
Speaker 1: today is friend of the show Garfield, Expert, Award winning
Speaker 1: Indie filmmaker and writer for the show Spirit Rangers, Joey Clift. Welcome.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, how's it going everybody? And thanks so much
Speaker 1: for having me back. Um yeah, I gotta say, um
Speaker 1: I am. I think I think I'm a teeth expert
Speaker 1: now because I actually started in Visible Line a few
Speaker 1: months ago and my teeth were just a little crooked
Speaker 1: at the start of the pandemic, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta take care of that. So now I've just
Speaker 1: become hyper aware of like, uh, teeth care and all
Speaker 1: things teeth. So I think you could add teeth expert
Speaker 1: to uh to my title two. I my expertise, My expertise,
Speaker 1: My expertise in teeth is that, um, I like to
Speaker 1: grind them down into nubs because of anxiety. Wait do
Speaker 1: you have a mouth guard? Wait? You like that? Now
Speaker 1: I don't. Well, you know it is something that I
Speaker 1: am prone to do. Now I have a brux is.
Speaker 1: Um so I clench my teeth and grind them. Um.
Speaker 1: So I do have a mouth guard that I have
Speaker 1: to wear at night, and I must say it looks
Speaker 1: very good and cool. I'm very I think, um way
Speaker 1: cooler than in visible line because like you can see it.
Speaker 1: You can see my mouth guard and it makes like
Speaker 1: my mouth poke out weird, so I look awesome. Um.
Speaker 1: Something that I love about having in visi line is
Speaker 1: that you have to take it out whenever you eat
Speaker 1: or drink anything that's not like cold water. And um,
Speaker 1: I feel like when I first started having in visiline,
Speaker 1: if I was ever like you know, eating around friends
Speaker 1: or something like that, I would always like very shyly
Speaker 1: be like I'm taking my in visib line out and
Speaker 1: I would like, don't look, and like then I realized
Speaker 1: that it's really gross when you pull it out. There's
Speaker 1: like always like a like just like a line of slobber,
Speaker 1: like a second sound. So like now I've taken power
Speaker 1: from that, and I just stare the person down and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna take my visil line out. Now
Speaker 1: you could watch if you want not, I guess, turn
Speaker 1: your head butt the onus on them to turn their
Speaker 1: head right, like, don't want to get little bits of
Speaker 1: this shrimp cocktail stuck in my visiline, excuse me one
Speaker 1: moment um. It's also like you like, um, I have
Speaker 1: a lot of friends who have also started in visiligne
Speaker 1: kind of during the pandemic because we're all wearing masks,
Speaker 1: and also just like because you know, we're largely in
Speaker 1: our homes now, like there's a less pressure to like
Speaker 1: go to events where you know, taking out your teeth
Speaker 1: to like you're taking out your invisil ligne to you know,
Speaker 1: drink at a party or whatever. It isn't necessarily a
Speaker 1: thing you have to worry about. So um, oftentimes when
Speaker 1: I'll pull my invisi line out, just like in the open.
Speaker 1: The person I'm talking to will be like, I actually
Speaker 1: took mine out quietly in the bathroom, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you coward. I mean, proud, be proud that you're grossing
Speaker 1: people out with your mouth. Yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a when we're in a pandemic where we have
Speaker 1: to cover our mouths all the time, we might as
Speaker 1: well do some like some work on our mouths, you know,
Speaker 1: some refurbishment. You know, I did get I had to
Speaker 1: wait until the worst of the pandemic was over to
Speaker 1: even get my mouth guard replaced because I could not
Speaker 1: go to the dentist. So that was It's great to
Speaker 1: have both the anxiety of a pan endemic combined with
Speaker 1: like untamed bruck is um um for waking up with
Speaker 1: a sore job. But yeah, I'm I'm doing better now,
Speaker 1: um and so yeah, but that's just with our our
Speaker 1: the fun stories that can happen with our human teeth
Speaker 1: and humans have. You know, our teeth are interesting because
Speaker 1: we are we're omnivores, right, so we have fact molars
Speaker 1: that are good for grinding up plant matter in our
Speaker 1: front teeth like our canines is decently good at tearing
Speaker 1: up meat. So our teeth are themselves fairly interesting. But
Speaker 1: once you go and explore some of the darker alleys
Speaker 1: of the Annual Kingdom, you'll find some mouths that are
Speaker 1: way weirder than Joey taking out is invisiligne, like when
Speaker 1: you're out with him for lunch. Uh. So, uh, do
Speaker 1: you like sea turtles? I think I do like sea turtles.
Speaker 1: They seem fairly friendly. They've got those flip ers. They
Speaker 1: can I think that they can be you know, crazy old, right,
Speaker 1: Like sea turtles can be like hundreds of years old. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they tend to live. They can live around
Speaker 1: fifty years, but you're right that there can be really
Speaker 1: old ones that live up to around like a hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty years old. So yeah, Like, I've never interacted
Speaker 1: with a sea turtle, but I would say that I
Speaker 1: am an admirer from afar, which is the right thing
Speaker 1: to do. You should not directly touch and hold a
Speaker 1: sea turtle because that is not good for the sea turtle. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah they are. They're adorable, sweet ocean babies that
Speaker 1: we love and cherish. Um. But if you look them
Speaker 1: in the mouth, like you should never look a gift
Speaker 1: sea turtle in the mouth because you will be met
Speaker 1: with a nightmarriage horror like the Sarlack pit in Star Wars.
Speaker 1: It's just a gaping mam of spikes. So Joey, what
Speaker 1: do you think like looking down this, now, this is
Speaker 1: a leather back uh turtle, sea turtle mouth that you
Speaker 1: are staring into. Okay, so I'm gonna say this is
Speaker 1: probably the first time that I've ever seen an animal
Speaker 1: with teeth in its neck. Like usually you just have
Speaker 1: teeth in your mouth, but no, no, no, sea turtles
Speaker 1: have us beat. Um yeah, definitely this looks like um
Speaker 1: it looks like the Starlac pit from Star Wars, but
Speaker 1: somehow more scary because instead of having tentacles, it just
Speaker 1: has more teeth, right, um yeah, like it really looking
Speaker 1: at this like I'm getting some zeno moreh vibes and that,
Speaker 1: like you know, you can picture that like the neck
Speaker 1: teeth like extending out of the mouth for like even
Speaker 1: more bites. It's really I mean, it makes sense as
Speaker 1: to what they eat, as to you know, I'm sure
Speaker 1: they probably like eat on the go and digest on
Speaker 1: the go, so why not chew in your neck too,
Speaker 1: I guess. But yeah, looking at it, that's that's a
Speaker 1: real scary Yeah. So there are a few things that
Speaker 1: I want to clarify about this whole sea turtle mouth situation. Yes,
Speaker 1: it is true that you are looking down into like
Speaker 1: a spiky tube of death. Um, but these protrusions are
Speaker 1: actually not teeth, even though they are so tooth like,
Speaker 1: They're not made out of denton like our teeth are
Speaker 1: made out of. Um. These are actually called esophageal papilla,
Speaker 1: So we actually have papilla on our tongues. They're the
Speaker 1: little bumps that you have on your tongues or taste buds. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, just these like little bumps and uh, those
Speaker 1: are called papilla. But on sea turtles, these have grown
Speaker 1: into these enormous spikes and they are all down their throat,
Speaker 1: on the top of their mouths, on the bottom of
Speaker 1: their mouths. Uh. It's pretty horrifying to look at, especially
Speaker 1: leather back turtles. So leather back sea turtles are the
Speaker 1: largest species of sea turtle and they have the most
Speaker 1: frightening mouths I think. Um. But yeah, so these uh,
Speaker 1: these quote unquote teeth are actually made out of keratin,
Speaker 1: so they're more like a bunch of throat claws than
Speaker 1: throat teeth, which I don't know, I feel like that's
Speaker 1: worse in a way. Yeah, So basically, like this reminds
Speaker 1: me of I want to say, lions have such coarse
Speaker 1: tongues that if you were to be licked by a
Speaker 1: lion like once or twice, it would like your muscles
Speaker 1: and skin would be gun. Yeah. Yeah, you're exactly right.
Speaker 1: And it's a great comparison because those spines on their
Speaker 1: tongues I believe, are also made out of keratin, and
Speaker 1: they are also extruded papillae from the tongues, And you're
Speaker 1: also great that they those are designed to tear meat
Speaker 1: off of bones from their price, so when they're licking
Speaker 1: a bone and licking their prey, they can actually rend
Speaker 1: meat from these bones. So if it licks your arm,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of pull your skin off. What is
Speaker 1: what is of greater interest to you, petting a lion
Speaker 1: or having skin? Because I feel like I would really
Speaker 1: like to pet a lion, and if it's like if
Speaker 1: my if my if my trade off for petting a
Speaker 1: lion is that they got to is that they got
Speaker 1: they got to lick me once, and it was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: goodbye forearm skin would like that? Would I trade that off?
Speaker 1: Would you trade that off? Depends on how I guess
Speaker 1: it depends on how much skin I have in the
Speaker 1: game here. Um, so like how much skin I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta give this line because if it's all of it, no,
Speaker 1: because I need that to keep out pathogen and keep
Speaker 1: my meat, you know, keep my meat safe. Um, if
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of skin, you know, they want
Speaker 1: to lick, give me a little kiss and it takes off,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of like parmesan grads off a little
Speaker 1: bit of my cheek. Like you know, all right, fine
Speaker 1: for the to get a kiss from a lion, I'll
Speaker 1: do it. Not really, that's a joke. Don't do that.
Speaker 1: Nobody do that. Yeah, I guess that. Like but like,
Speaker 1: but think about it, if like if a lion gives you, guys,
Speaker 1: just like a little little peck on your cheek, just
Speaker 1: a little lick on your cheek, and it just like
Speaker 1: shears off, just like a chunk flesh off your cheek. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like it would It would probably be more
Speaker 1: like if you rubbed your cheek with some coarse grits
Speaker 1: sand paper, right, Like, it wouldn't maybe tear off chunk out.
Speaker 1: It would just be like if you took the really
Speaker 1: core sandpaper and rubbed it on your cheek, you're gonna
Speaker 1: start to take a little bit of skin off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like but like if you had that scar, but
Speaker 1: like in exchange, if anybody asked how you got that scar,
Speaker 1: and you'd be like, I got it from my lion friend, Right,
Speaker 1: I gotta kiss from a lion. That's pretty good. It's
Speaker 1: a pretty good trade off. Yeah, that would be tough.
Speaker 1: I would have to think about that trade off. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's exactly a great comparison because the
Speaker 1: lion does have similar keratin structures on its tongue. Of
Speaker 1: course this uh, the turtles have it all throughout their
Speaker 1: mouth and all down their throat, and they actually use
Speaker 1: it in a much different way than something like a
Speaker 1: lion uses its tongue or like we use our teeth.
Speaker 1: So it's not really for chewing, but it is for trapping.
Speaker 1: So um. One of these sea turtles most favorite foods
Speaker 1: is jellyfish, which seems surprising, like it doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: jellyfish would be that good to eat, but sea turtles
Speaker 1: love them. In fact, some species like the leather back
Speaker 1: sea turtle almost exclusively eat jellyfish, and they're hunting method
Speaker 1: is being a vacuum cleaner, so they suck in seawater
Speaker 1: along with their jellyfish prey. But they don't want all
Speaker 1: that extra seawater. In fact, it's too much salt, like
Speaker 1: they already deal with a lot of salt in their diets,
Speaker 1: so they regurgitate the seawater um. But when they regurgitate seawater,
Speaker 1: the problem is, well, they don't also want to regurgitate
Speaker 1: the jellyfish that they want to have in their tummies.
Speaker 1: So all these spikes that are actually facing downwards, so
Speaker 1: the spikes are facing towards the back of their throat,
Speaker 1: and when they regurgitate the water that has the jellyfish
Speaker 1: in it, the jellyfish gets stuck on the spines and
Speaker 1: there's only one direction that jellyfish can flow, which is
Speaker 1: down towards the turtles stomach, and on its way to
Speaker 1: the stomach, the jellyfish is getting shredded by these spines,
Speaker 1: and it's also protecting the sea turtles throat from the
Speaker 1: jellyfish's stingers so it doesn't hurt it. And by the
Speaker 1: time the jellyfish reaches its stomach, it's been kind of mutilated.
Speaker 1: What that makes me think of is I feel like
Speaker 1: if I had those spines in my throat, the way
Speaker 1: that I would do that is I would like I
Speaker 1: would just shotgun like bubble bubble tea, like Boba tea,
Speaker 1: and then puke up the tea but keep those sweet
Speaker 1: sweet Boba bubbles trapped on my neck spines. That'd be
Speaker 1: like the most horrifying game of plank. Oh. I can
Speaker 1: think of boba things going down, the ding ding ding
Speaker 1: ding ding down the spikes. Yeah, but like what an
Speaker 1: efficient way of like you know, look, I can't drink
Speaker 1: a ton of bobas, but if I do that, I can,
Speaker 1: like I can eat a lot of the bubbles. That's
Speaker 1: exactly right. Yeah, that's exactly how this works. I mean,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that sarcastically. It would be like
Speaker 1: if you want to eat the bobas, but you don't
Speaker 1: want the gross coffee or whatever, and so you toss
Speaker 1: it down and all your throat spikes catch those boba's. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like I wanted to chug a chicken noodle soup,
Speaker 1: but like I didn't really want the broth. I just
Speaker 1: wanted the chicken. It's like, this would be a great way,
Speaker 1: this would be a great sult. Okay, you get out
Speaker 1: of this show. You don't want the broth. Broth the
Speaker 1: best part out, get out. I mean, look, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying in theory, Look I also like the broth. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying in a crazy world where I just want
Speaker 1: the chicken and noodles, but not the broth, Come on
Speaker 1: my show, tell me you don't want your chicken broth.
Speaker 1: My god. So, uh, in places like Hawaii, you might
Speaker 1: actually spot a sea turtle on the beach which appears
Speaker 1: to be vomiting blood. But if you see that, don't
Speaker 1: necessarily panic. This could just be normal turtle feeding behavior.
Speaker 1: So they will regurgitate seawater, like we talked about before, uh,
Speaker 1: filtering out jellyfish. But during red tides, where there are
Speaker 1: red algile blooms, seawater can look red and like it's blood,
Speaker 1: and so you'll see these sea turtles that look like
Speaker 1: they've just, you know, exorcist style, vomited up this blood,
Speaker 1: but it's really just red sea water, and they're just
Speaker 1: doing that so that they can filter out the jellyfish.
Speaker 1: Which you know, pretty metal sea turtles gotta hand it
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, I mean there is also a chance
Speaker 1: with like how polluted our ocean is that like that
Speaker 1: also might be put well, the that's a good point
Speaker 1: in the real danger to sea turtles is plastic waste,
Speaker 1: because the plastic bag floating in the ocean looks exactly yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: So they'll try to eat it and it'll get caught
Speaker 1: in their throats with the same mechanism that they used
Speaker 1: to catch jellyfish, and so they can't regurgitate it, so
Speaker 1: it has to go down through their digestive system where
Speaker 1: it can get and snagged and caused an intestinal blockage
Speaker 1: and killed them. Um yeah, that sucks. Yeah. When I
Speaker 1: heard that, I like all of a sudden felt really
Speaker 1: bad about using plastic bags and throwing them in the ocean,
Speaker 1: like I do. Joey stop that Joey was the one.
Speaker 1: He was the one with all the plastic straws, just
Speaker 1: tossing him in the ocean. One by what, I was
Speaker 1: like cutting all my plastic bags specifically so they look
Speaker 1: like they gotta cut these plastic bags up and then
Speaker 1: just like like a smiley jellyfish face off them. Wow. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's uh, you're going to get in trouble with the
Speaker 1: I believe the TikTok TikTok girls really hate it when
Speaker 1: you mistreat the sea turtles. Or is that like a
Speaker 1: trend from a few years ago. I'm really not. They've
Speaker 1: moved on. They've moved on to something else. It's no
Speaker 1: longer about the plastic straws. It's about something else, like
Speaker 1: I don't know, they don't care about sea turtles anymore.
Speaker 1: It's probably something like uh, yeah, and they care about
Speaker 1: like global warming or something something silly like global warming. Yeah,
Speaker 1: something something wacky like the future of the planet, something
Speaker 1: wacky and silly, like they're very lives from something yeah,
Speaker 1: something silly like them seeing that like will all be
Speaker 1: underwater in and them being like, wait, it'll still be
Speaker 1: alive then, and then it'll be a good saying that
Speaker 1: that they like defended the sea turtles, because the sea
Speaker 1: turtles will remember and be like, hey, welcome underwater, thanks
Speaker 1: for not killing us with plastic straws. I guess you
Speaker 1: can join our cool kingdom. Yeah, it's only worked that
Speaker 1: way penguins, though penguins have nearly the same creepy and
Speaker 1: cool mouth situation going on. As sea turtles, they also
Speaker 1: have esophageal papilla made out of caraton, lining their mouths, throats,
Speaker 1: and even on their tongues. Uh. And like the sea turtles,
Speaker 1: these spines are angle downwards and inwards towards the stomach.
Speaker 1: Instead of eating jellyfish, penguins eat fish, and their spines
Speaker 1: act like a bunch of fish hooks that trap the
Speaker 1: fish and only allow the fish to move in one direction,
Speaker 1: one direction down towards the final resting place of a
Speaker 1: penguin's hungry Tommy. So, penguin's adorable on the outside, horrible
Speaker 1: on the inside. Um, I gotta say with penguin's um.
Speaker 1: So this this first photo that we're looking at, is
Speaker 1: that the penguin's tongue. That's like that we're seeing. That's
Speaker 1: like kind of okay, got it? Got it? Because the
Speaker 1: way that looks looking at it is it looks like
Speaker 1: the penguin has two sets of jaws. Once again, very
Speaker 1: easy and influence, you know, more esque. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it kind of looks like a comb. It's like, I
Speaker 1: guess that I'm less scared of a penguin's mouth than
Speaker 1: I am a sea turtle's mouth because like, I recognize
Speaker 1: the penguin's mouth as like not being eldric horror, whereas
Speaker 1: like the sea turtle's mouth just looks like like just
Speaker 1: a hell mouth, you know, just a tunnel to hell. So, Joey,
Speaker 1: we've talked about horrifying teeth being used against jellyfish and
Speaker 1: against fish, but some fish have their own oral horror
Speaker 1: show that I want to talk about. Uh. Fish are
Speaker 1: one of the most diverse groups of animals in the world.
Speaker 1: In fact, it's kind of weird to even call fish
Speaker 1: fish um. But given that, all right, given that they're
Speaker 1: so diverse, the situation going on with their mouths is
Speaker 1: always going to be pretty interesting. So uh, one fish
Speaker 1: I want to talk about is the Pacific lyn cod,
Speaker 1: which are ill tempered, omnivorous oceanic fish who grow to
Speaker 1: be about four ft long. Uh. They have two sets
Speaker 1: of jaws. So, Joey, earlier you we're looking at this
Speaker 1: penguin mouth and since its tongue has spines on it,
Speaker 1: it kind of looked like it had to two mouths. Well,
Speaker 1: lincod actually do have two sets of jaws. They have
Speaker 1: a front set that they can extrude to grab prey
Speaker 1: and a rear pharyngeal set of teeth that are these
Speaker 1: rows of teeth on modified gill ridges for tearing and grinding.
Speaker 1: So grabbing, tearing and grinding. It's like a really cool
Speaker 1: kitchen utensil you can use to shred a potato. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what this looks like to me is um, I can
Speaker 1: definitely recognize the first set of jaws and that you
Speaker 1: can clearly see teeth on it. It makes a ton
Speaker 1: of sense the second set of jaws. Is that what
Speaker 1: we're seeing kind of in the far back of the
Speaker 1: image around kind of the red spot. Yeah, exactly, so
Speaker 1: you see you see that front and then you see
Speaker 1: the back. You see those rows right like they they
Speaker 1: are these like concentric circles going down into the throat
Speaker 1: and they those are actually modified gill ridges that have
Speaker 1: teeth on them. So yeah, it's a it's not good
Speaker 1: to look at or to machine going inside. Yeah. What's
Speaker 1: terrifying um to me about this is it looks like
Speaker 1: it's like you can see their rib cage within their mouth.
Speaker 1: So it kind of looks like it's basically like if
Speaker 1: we did not have a head or a neck, but
Speaker 1: like our shoulder blades opened into a mouth, and then
Speaker 1: we had like a hollow chest cavity where you could
Speaker 1: see the rib cage, and then like our pelvis, there
Speaker 1: was another set of teeth. Um Like, it looks kind
Speaker 1: of like that where it's like it it looks like
Speaker 1: it's also like blue, which is weird. Um Yeah. And
Speaker 1: also I think I can see like gill openings on
Speaker 1: the side, so that looks crazy, yeah, because these things
Speaker 1: that look like ribs are actually gill ridges. So it's
Speaker 1: like if we just had rib like structures going all
Speaker 1: the way down, but then they open out into the
Speaker 1: air because that you breathe through them. I mean that's like,
Speaker 1: that's like less That's okay. So that's less scary to
Speaker 1: me because I feel like in a world where I'm
Speaker 1: a tiny fish that um is, you know, swimming right
Speaker 1: through this thing's mouth, I feel like you could like
Speaker 1: escape patch out through the gill. I mean, that's why
Speaker 1: they have so many teeth for first grabbing you with
Speaker 1: the front set of jaws and then grinding you down
Speaker 1: with the second set of jaws. So I feel like
Speaker 1: by the time you see a potential escape route through
Speaker 1: the gills, you've already been pulverized pretty bad. Because these
Speaker 1: guys have four hundred teeth, which you know, that's more
Speaker 1: than humans have. Um. Yeah, yeah, we have. We have
Speaker 1: easily half that. Um yeah, okay, yeah. So I's want
Speaker 1: to say, any fish that gets bit by the first
Speaker 1: jaws and then doesn't try to like escape through the gills,
Speaker 1: there's a word for that, and that's a quitter. That is,
Speaker 1: you know, counting your teeth before they've hatched. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but yeah, a quitter fish. Um. But because of all
Speaker 1: this chomping and chewing, and they are truly vicious fish.
Speaker 1: They love to eat anything that moves, including their own species.
Speaker 1: They can be cannibals opportunistically. But because of all of this,
Speaker 1: they do lose teeth. These they can be these little
Speaker 1: spine like teeth that just break off with all this
Speaker 1: chewing and chomping. But because they lose teeth so quickly,
Speaker 1: they also replace them. So they lose and replace around
Speaker 1: a day, which is an insane turnover of teeth. Um. Okay,
Speaker 1: So what would if you replaced your teeth that quickly,
Speaker 1: Like if every day you like shed twenty teeth, is
Speaker 1: there something that you would do with your teeth? Would
Speaker 1: you like to make a necklace out of them? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes sense, that's many, Yeah, Crown, I feel like
Speaker 1: we're hitting a point where it's like a brooch. I
Speaker 1: would I feel like I would make it just like
Speaker 1: a shirt out of my own teeth Chaine mail out
Speaker 1: of teeth, Yeah, teeth Chaine mail, teeth gown. Imagine the
Speaker 1: sounds as you rustle on by and your teeth gown.
Speaker 1: That genuinely gave me the shiver. It's basically like it's
Speaker 1: basically like your teeth grinding, but like while you're moving
Speaker 1: and it's your clothes. Just Yeah, that's a It's an interesting,
Speaker 1: interesting situation to think about for a long period of time,
Speaker 1: when you're in bed at night and it's dark and
Speaker 1: you look in the corner of the room and you
Speaker 1: think about someone wearing the teeth dress just slowly moving
Speaker 1: towards you. Um. Anyways, to talk about something less horrifying,
Speaker 1: how about a frilled shark that has rows and rows
Speaker 1: of teeth like fields of corn. So. The frilled shark
Speaker 1: is an old old species of shark, sometimes called a
Speaker 1: living fossil due to its primitive form. They live near
Speaker 1: the ocean floor in the Pacific and Atlantic outer continental shelves.
Speaker 1: So these aren't exactly These aren't like deep deep sea fish,
Speaker 1: but you know they're they're deeper than like coastal fish. Um.
Speaker 1: They like to eat fish, cephalopods and sea slugs. It's
Speaker 1: called a frilled shark because of the rows of gill
Speaker 1: slits that make them look like they've got these frilly sideburns.
Speaker 1: It's kind of cute. Um, you know, all things considered, Hey,
Speaker 1: frilled shark, take those sideburns back where they belong. The
Speaker 1: seventies got them. You have roasted this shark. Males can
Speaker 1: grow to be up to about five and a half
Speaker 1: feet or one point seven meters, and females can grow
Speaker 1: to be about six and a half feet or two
Speaker 1: meters long. Another wind for feminism in the animal kingdom.
Speaker 1: I say that, yes, yes, I stand a frilled shark. Queen.
Speaker 1: Yes you toothy queen. So um. So what I like
Speaker 1: about the frill shark is like, it looks like besides
Speaker 1: the frill sharks, very large wind for feminism is, um,
Speaker 1: it looks like the frilled sharks teeth have teeth, if
Speaker 1: it makes sense. Yeah, it kind of looks like that.
Speaker 1: It's like they're these trident shaped teeth, so like they
Speaker 1: have three prongs like a trident, and not only that,
Speaker 1: but then there's a whole row of them. So it's uh,
Speaker 1: I would say, in timidating um. They're these vertical rolls
Speaker 1: of pointy, tried and shaped teeth. There's about three hundred
Speaker 1: teeth in total in this mouth of theirs. How often
Speaker 1: do they shed their teeth? I don't know that, but
Speaker 1: I think like most sharks, they do shed them and
Speaker 1: then they can sort of replace them. So these rows
Speaker 1: may kind of push upwards over time as they're getting replaced.
Speaker 1: Like like most sharks do actually have teeth behind their
Speaker 1: teeth that come in to replace the front teeth. They're
Speaker 1: just not as many as say the frilled shark, because
Speaker 1: these go back all the way down their mouths. I
Speaker 1: feel like, based on our previous animal, now I'm sizing
Speaker 1: up every shark's teeth to be like, what article of
Speaker 1: clothing would I turn that into? And I feel like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like pacific ingrid's teeth, Like yeah, that'd probably
Speaker 1: make for like a really cool, like you know, chain
Speaker 1: mail shirt. I feel like, uh, frilled shark teeth, that's
Speaker 1: like that's a crown. That's like a really nice crown
Speaker 1: because like it's like the tridents give it like a cool,
Speaker 1: like you know effect to it. Like I feel like
Speaker 1: that would be like I'm not saying I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that I would hold down a frilled shark and yank
Speaker 1: out their teeth to make my crown. I'm saying I would.
Speaker 1: I would hang out around one and as it like
Speaker 1: its teeth naturally fall out, I wouldn't pick a crown.
Speaker 1: I like the the image of you just like hanging
Speaker 1: out with this frilled shark with like a little net,
Speaker 1: just being like, come on, eat the hard candy, Eat
Speaker 1: the hard candy. I need this on your sideburns. Sorry
Speaker 1: about the sideburn burn. I think that so uh, they
Speaker 1: can actually extend their mouths. Their mouths and jaws are
Speaker 1: very flexible, and they can eat pray larger there and
Speaker 1: larger than their bodies by extending their jaw and distending
Speaker 1: their bellies um, and so not only do they have
Speaker 1: these rows of trident teeth, but they have this flexible
Speaker 1: jaw that can just chomp down like a pac man
Speaker 1: and it helps snag prey. So like once they've got
Speaker 1: it in their mouth. It's going to be hard for
Speaker 1: the prey to pull away from the shark because it
Speaker 1: is now sort of fish hooked in there. Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1: Like looking at other pictures of frillish sharks, seem like
Speaker 1: an animal that is like all spine and no ribs,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense, and that like you can see
Speaker 1: that there's like a distinct spine, but then like everything
Speaker 1: else seems like, I don't want to say structureless, but
Speaker 1: like it kind of feels like, you know, it's like
Speaker 1: if you can bind a shark and a snake a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, I mean that's an interesting observation because
Speaker 1: they are very very primitive, uh they you know, when
Speaker 1: you have these early fish, some of the earliest fish
Speaker 1: didn't even have a spinal cord. They just out of
Speaker 1: note a chord, and they were more of these kind
Speaker 1: of eel like not quite as bony, but more cartilage filled.
Speaker 1: Fish and sharks have a lot of cartilage, even the
Speaker 1: more evolved shark. But this one is pretty pretty primitive,
Speaker 1: pretty old. So yeah, it is even it does have
Speaker 1: a spine, but it is you know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of this kind of these Cartolgnus cartilaginous structures. You know,
Speaker 1: they have more of that snake or eel like structure
Speaker 1: than say a ray finned bony fish. Um um. Oh.
Speaker 1: And the other thing that their teeth can accomplish is uh,
Speaker 1: some biologists think it may act as allure. So because
Speaker 1: their teeth are so white and they come in these rows. Uh,
Speaker 1: that contrasting white and dark pattern is thought to maybe
Speaker 1: trick fish into thinking that there's some kind of food
Speaker 1: food or something interesting to look at, and so they
Speaker 1: wander closer to the mouth and then the last thing
Speaker 1: they know is like, hey, this is a mouth and
Speaker 1: that's it. Lights out there there, They're done. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: is something that I appreciate about. Like really, I think
Speaker 1: that that's something that you can say about like our
Speaker 1: last to fish, the pacific ingrid and the frilled shark
Speaker 1: in that like, their mouths look very like I know
Speaker 1: that they're the mouths lilding creatures. So to call them
Speaker 1: organic seems obvious, But they seem like organic in like
Speaker 1: more of a natural environmental way. Like there's definitely a
Speaker 1: way with the pacific ingrid's mouth, which is very blue,
Speaker 1: could look like a cave or something like that. And
Speaker 1: like same with the frilled shark's mouth. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of blacks, a lot of reds, Like the structures of
Speaker 1: the teeth kind of seemed like coral a little bit
Speaker 1: like where that could seem like it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: a safe space to hide and not the least safe space. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is interesting, it like it kind of looks it
Speaker 1: looks like a plant, maybe like the spines of a cactus,
Speaker 1: not the teeth of a fish. Yeah, for sure, speaking
Speaker 1: of teeth that look like other things or other teeth
Speaker 1: or teeth that shouldn't go in the animal that you
Speaker 1: think it should go in sheep's head, sheep's head fish,
Speaker 1: uh have I'm sorry to say it human like teeth.
Speaker 1: It looks like you photoshopped a bunch of human teeth
Speaker 1: onto a fish. And I don't like it. I don't
Speaker 1: like it one bit. Um. Yeah, you know, it's like
Speaker 1: speaking of it vizz line. Somebody got to give this
Speaker 1: fish line. Um, Joey is really on a roll roasting
Speaker 1: these fish. Hey, I mean, look, somebody's got to what's
Speaker 1: that nice smell? It's Joey roasting a bunch of fish. Yeah. Look,
Speaker 1: if I can't roast them literally and eat them, I
Speaker 1: am going to roast them with jokes. Fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 1: This is why I constantly have food poisoning. Is the
Speaker 1: way that I try to cook my meat is I
Speaker 1: just make fun of their animals. But yeah, something that's
Speaker 1: wild about the sheep said fish is that like, yeah,
Speaker 1: their mouth their teeth are very human like. Um. So
Speaker 1: by extension, they're like, you know, their mouths. It looks
Speaker 1: like they have lips that are very human like. Um.
Speaker 1: But something that's crazy about them in Very Uncanny Valley
Speaker 1: is they also have teeth, like on their tongues. Basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: teeth on the bottom of their their mouths, and teeth
Speaker 1: on the top of their mouths. Also, so teeth, it's
Speaker 1: going back there. It's like if you had multiple rows
Speaker 1: of teeth on both the top and but yeah, on
Speaker 1: the top and bottom of your mouth, instead of just
Speaker 1: one row on the top and one bottom, which is
Speaker 1: very freaky. It's very unsettling because it not only looks
Speaker 1: like human teeth, but way too many human teeth. Um.
Speaker 1: I also just like, I don't trust fish with human teeth.
Speaker 1: That's not right. That's probably why I really didn't like
Speaker 1: that old movie Shark Tail. You remember that yeah. So
Speaker 1: basically what you're saying is that if a fish with
Speaker 1: human teeth was like Katie, will you co sign my loan?
Speaker 1: You'd be like, Noah, there's something about you and untrusted. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, like anyone else I would, But as a
Speaker 1: fish with teeth, no, yeah, other than their uncanny valley mouths,
Speaker 1: Sheep said fish are relatively normal looking gray and white
Speaker 1: striped fish that can grow to be a little over
Speaker 1: a foot long about um point five meters. Uh. It's
Speaker 1: body is sort of disc shaped, but it's sort of
Speaker 1: like when its mouth is closed. It's a pretty normal
Speaker 1: looking fish. Uh. They're found along the coast of southwest Florida,
Speaker 1: which you know, of course, as well as the western Atlantic.
Speaker 1: But as soon as they open their horrible little mouths,
Speaker 1: they reveal that front row of human like teeth and
Speaker 1: then those rows of little nubby teeth. So they're not
Speaker 1: really sharp teeth, they're these sort of nubs, and they
Speaker 1: actually use these teeth for grinding. So they like to
Speaker 1: eat barnacles, fiddler crabs, clams, oysters, and other small hard
Speaker 1: shelled prey, and so they use these like rows of teeth,
Speaker 1: sort of blunt teeth to grind the shells up so
Speaker 1: they can eat their prey, which you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's scarier like a sharp a bunch of sharp
Speaker 1: teeth or a bunch of dull teeth that just grinds you. Hey,
Speaker 1: rise and grind, I get it. Wait. Also, wait, we
Speaker 1: talked about this earlier as somebody who grinds their teeth,
Speaker 1: and I'm speaking to somebody who also grinds their teeth. Um,
Speaker 1: do you look at this fish and feel like a
Speaker 1: sense of empathy or are you just like acculate with fire. Uh?
Speaker 1: Not empathy because they grind their teeth on purpose to
Speaker 1: get a delicious meal. More jealousy, because it's like if
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of if I had way more
Speaker 1: teeth right to grind, then I probably wouldn't wear down
Speaker 1: my My pathetic set of teeth is quickly. Yeah. Like,
Speaker 1: as we've established, you love grinding your teeth. It is
Speaker 1: your favorite favorite thing to do. I love the sound,
Speaker 1: especially on the jaw fields. Apparently the sheep's head fish
Speaker 1: taste really good. But there's not a chance, no way
Speaker 1: I'm going to eat a fish that has a human mouth.
Speaker 1: That's no Yeah, I mean that's sort of the Like,
Speaker 1: that's the mermaid conundrum, right, and that like if you eat,
Speaker 1: like what kind of meat is a mermaid? If you
Speaker 1: eat the top half of a mermaid, is it human meat?
Speaker 1: If you eat the bottom half? Is it fish meat?
Speaker 1: Is it canibalism if you eat the top half? So yeah,
Speaker 1: I really I agree with you in that, Like, I like,
Speaker 1: if I saw a picture of this fish, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: that's way too close. Yeah, yeah, it's too much. It's
Speaker 1: too close to a mermaid that I wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: eat it. Related question, uh, do you think the sheep's
Speaker 1: had fish floss is as much as they should? Uh? Uh? Now, Joey,
Speaker 1: they're fish, they don't they don't do that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking of fish, they definitely don't flies. So hey, Joey,
Speaker 1: I heard you like teeth, So I put some teeth
Speaker 1: on your teeth so you can chew while your chew.
Speaker 1: So that's my way of introducing the crab eater seal.
Speaker 1: So crab eater seals are adorable sea puppies with psychedelic
Speaker 1: nightmare teeth. Crab eater seals live in Antarctica and are
Speaker 1: very cute, blubbery little guys with white cream colored coats.
Speaker 1: They grow up to over two meters so about six
Speaker 1: and a half feet long, and they weigh up to
Speaker 1: your round two hums around a four hundred and fifty pounds,
Speaker 1: so you know, just a little bill blubbery blobs of cuteness. Um.
Speaker 1: So what I love about crab eat or seals teeth
Speaker 1: is that, um, if you think back to like drawings
Speaker 1: of sea monsters, you know in you know, kind of
Speaker 1: medieval times on maps, oftentimes those creatures would have like, yeah,
Speaker 1: weird teeth, horns and things like that, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: you can look at that and think about it as
Speaker 1: just like abject craziness. Um. But like I've seen, I
Speaker 1: think this exact drawing of a tooth on those old
Speaker 1: medieval paintings. So it's like, you know, it kind of
Speaker 1: makes you think it's just like, oh, do they just
Speaker 1: like see a crabber ear seal and like half remember
Speaker 1: what that's a dragon? Like get a crab eat or
Speaker 1: steal skelt And I was like, yeah, this is a
Speaker 1: seed dragon for sure, and I wouldn't blame them. So
Speaker 1: their teeth are these they curve backwards, so they are
Speaker 1: sort of this triangular shaped tooth that curl backwards, but
Speaker 1: then on the teeth they have smaller curved teeth jutting
Speaker 1: out from them. And it's it's kind of interesting too
Speaker 1: because it's sort of like comb like and but it's
Speaker 1: kind of pretty almost in a weird way. The patterns
Speaker 1: these make it kind of looks like an mc essure
Speaker 1: drawing of sort of interlocking uh curves and then smaller
Speaker 1: interlocking curves like a Pacific linkad teeth are chain mail
Speaker 1: teeth and a frilled sharks teeth are our crown teeth.
Speaker 1: These are for sure necklace teeth right here. These are
Speaker 1: some high quality necklace teeth. What's interesting is that you
Speaker 1: would think that then they would use these really wild
Speaker 1: like medieval sea dragon looking teeth to chomp into things.
Speaker 1: Maybe like they're name like their crab eater seals, maybe
Speaker 1: they use them to crack open crab shells, But actually
Speaker 1: they don't eat crabs. Whoever named this seal should be arrested. Um,
Speaker 1: So they like to eat krill, not crabs and krill.
Speaker 1: You know, it's one of the smallest, wimpiest creatures of
Speaker 1: the sea. So why do crab eater seals misnamed crab
Speaker 1: eater seals, or maybe we should call them krill eater
Speaker 1: seals have such wild, dastardly looking teeth, and like a
Speaker 1: lot of our weird mouthed friends on this show, their
Speaker 1: teeth are actually used not for biting but for filtration.
Speaker 1: So they use the same method that actually baling whales
Speaker 1: use where they second sea water and then push it
Speaker 1: out and filter out this teeny tiny krill, which because
Speaker 1: their teeth with all these little protrusions, actually for once
Speaker 1: they've clamped it down, forms this like sieve or sieve
Speaker 1: that the krill get trapped in, that the krill get
Speaker 1: trapped in wild the seawater can escape. Um. Something I
Speaker 1: feel like scientists don't think about enough in terms of
Speaker 1: like evolution and why things evolve is just evolving so
Speaker 1: it looks the most metal as it can. So I
Speaker 1: feel like, yes, I'm sure these are. I'm sure these are.
Speaker 1: There's the practical use of filtration, which totally makes sense,
Speaker 1: but also just like this is just nature being like, hey,
Speaker 1: you want to have a mouth that looks cool? Yeah? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I'd love to have these weird Fibonacci teeth honestly, Uh,
Speaker 1: those would be fun to grind. Oh yeah, at the
Speaker 1: end of this, we have to have a rating of like,
Speaker 1: would you grind it if you had these teeth? Would
Speaker 1: you grind? Uh? Yeah, I mean I guess the sheep said.
Speaker 1: Fish in terms of grinding is probably you know, the
Speaker 1: one built the most for grinding. But yeah, no. So
Speaker 1: so these crabb eat or seals amazing looking teeth. And
Speaker 1: I think it's also interesting because while these are definitely
Speaker 1: teeth and not something like bailen, whereas like bailen is
Speaker 1: actually made out of keratin, similar to the turtle and
Speaker 1: penguin mouths we talked about earlier, But you can see
Speaker 1: this convergent evolution of like two mammals who both separately
Speaker 1: made their way from the land back to the sea.
Speaker 1: Like seals and whales are actually not that closely related,
Speaker 1: they both independently, uh had a journey from land to
Speaker 1: see and then of those there's a seal that has
Speaker 1: also evolved a filtration system for krill, as did baleen whales,
Speaker 1: just using very different mouths. So I find that pretty interesting,
Speaker 1: pretty fascinating. It's sort of like, um, something that's something
Speaker 1: that's really fascinating to me is seeing the different technology
Speaker 1: that the Soviet Union and the United States used in
Speaker 1: the space race. So like you see, um, like they
Speaker 1: built Soviet USSR space suits kind of like independently of
Speaker 1: United States space suits for like moonwalks. There's like, um,
Speaker 1: there's a Soviet Union moonlander moon were over that we're
Speaker 1: like not used because they didn't make it to the moon.
Speaker 1: But it's like you can kind of see the thing
Speaker 1: of like, oh, these are both like coming, These are
Speaker 1: both doing the same job, but they're clearly coming from
Speaker 1: like different minds and schools of thought is to like
Speaker 1: how to do it, but they like don't look dissimilar.
Speaker 1: You know. Is that parallel of invention though, or is
Speaker 1: it spying spycraft? Um, it's probably a little bit. So
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying is the crab eat or
Speaker 1: seal they've been spying on whales. They've probably been spying
Speaker 1: on whales for a long time. Yeah, it's got them.
Speaker 1: We busted them. The last couple of animals I want
Speaker 1: to talk about, um, are not because of the teeth
Speaker 1: that they do have, but because of the teeth that
Speaker 1: they don't have, which is all of them. So mammals
Speaker 1: without certain teeth or any teeth are known as identate mammals.
Speaker 1: All identate mammals lack canines and incisors, but some have
Speaker 1: no teeth at all. Ant Eaters and pengulins have no
Speaker 1: teeth instead, they ditched their teeth for a long, sticky
Speaker 1: tongue instead. So ant eaters belong to the suborder vermin Lingua,
Speaker 1: which actually means worm tongue. So I guess they're either
Speaker 1: h ant eaters are big Tolkien nerds or Tolkien was
Speaker 1: a big ant eater nerd b by Tolkien being an
Speaker 1: ant eater nerd. So they live in Central and South America,
Speaker 1: and there are multiple species, and they include the giant
Speaker 1: ant eater, the cute and tiny silky ant eater, the
Speaker 1: Southern Tamandua, and the Northern Tamandua. Pengulins, meanwhile, are an
Speaker 1: instance of convergent evolution. They look a lot like an
Speaker 1: ant eater, but they live in sub Saharan Africa. Um
Speaker 1: they also have no teeth. They lap up ants with
Speaker 1: their really long sticky tongues, and their body shape is
Speaker 1: very similar to ant eaters, but additionally they have caratinous
Speaker 1: plates that armor their bodies like scale male armors, so
Speaker 1: they can curl up into a ball when threatened by
Speaker 1: something like a lion. So so it's like their bodies
Speaker 1: covered in teeth. So here's how crazy it is. Here's
Speaker 1: how amazingly close these are in terms of their conversion evolution.
Speaker 1: So both pengulins and ant eaters have prehensile tails, both
Speaker 1: have extra sticky saliva for lapping up ants. Both have
Speaker 1: really long tongues and tube shaped mouths, and their tongues
Speaker 1: actually have a base way back near their stern um um.
Speaker 1: Because like the high oid bone, which is where your
Speaker 1: tongue connects, actually has a bunch of muscle on it
Speaker 1: and it's the base of the tongue. But because they
Speaker 1: have such a long tongue, it doesn't all fit in
Speaker 1: their mouths. So their high oid bone, for for pengul ins,
Speaker 1: their high o high oid bone actually goes all the
Speaker 1: way down, uh, from their sternom down their abdomen, and
Speaker 1: like it's actually kind of this wishbone shape of these
Speaker 1: two prongs and then on those is all this muscle
Speaker 1: that can quickly retract and extend this really long tongue
Speaker 1: that sits in their mouth and throat but kind of
Speaker 1: folds up a little bit whereas ant eaters also have
Speaker 1: a really long uh base of their tongue, but it
Speaker 1: just goes down to their stern um um and also
Speaker 1: both ingest small stones to help grind up their food,
Speaker 1: because even though they don't have teeth, it does help
Speaker 1: when they can get that grinding in and it helps
Speaker 1: them digest their food more efficiently. So yeah, So a
Speaker 1: question that I've got about this, and it's just based
Speaker 1: on the photo, is like, is the way that they
Speaker 1: eat like they looks like their tongue is yeah, like
Speaker 1: kind of in their abdomen a little bit. So did
Speaker 1: they essentially just like use their tongue to like grab
Speaker 1: ants and stuff like that, and then essentially their tongue
Speaker 1: deposits the ant into their stomach, deposits it into their
Speaker 1: throat and then down and then it goes down into
Speaker 1: their stomach. Yeah. Wow, that sounds like such a convenient
Speaker 1: way to eat. I mean, I feel like that's how
Speaker 1: I eat cereal, just kind of like lapping it up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just like I don't even chew it. I just
Speaker 1: try to cram it in my throat. I'm choking all
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, I think I'm starting to understand why
Speaker 1: you might have needed in bus a line. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I just don't use my teeth. I just try to
Speaker 1: like I just sort of guzzle down like entire fish
Speaker 1: or whatever I eat, like Heathcliff where I just take
Speaker 1: a fish, put the entire thing into my mouth behind
Speaker 1: my teeth, and then pull out the skeleton. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: that's uh, I've seen you do that. It's it's very disturbing,
Speaker 1: more disturbing than like when you take out your invisil
Speaker 1: line at lunch. Yeah, it's very much. It's really painful
Speaker 1: and it's not efficient. And I choke a lot, and
Speaker 1: uh do not cutting up your mouth to get amount
Speaker 1: with those fish bones? Oh yeah, cutting up my mouth
Speaker 1: a ton also, Like yeah, it's definitely not It's definitely
Speaker 1: a very painful process for like I also have constant heartburn.
Speaker 1: This is not not good for whatever, not good for
Speaker 1: my insights to do this. But like, hey, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to learn a different what am I going to
Speaker 1: use my teeth like a sucker? Meanwhile, here I am
Speaker 1: grinding down my teeth into a fine powder because it's fun,
Speaker 1: good habits all around. Well, before we go, I want
Speaker 1: to play a game. It's called The Mystery animal sound
Speaker 1: game or guess who's talking or guess who's squawking? I
Speaker 1: guess so good, and it's pretty good. Maybe I should
Speaker 1: change change my brand my brand. So last week's hint, um,
Speaker 1: we're sorry. Last week I played an animal sound and
Speaker 1: the hint was is it win she windshield wipers, an
Speaker 1: owl or someone trying to find his damsel in distress?
Speaker 1: And here is the sound. Yeah, so the question is
Speaker 1: was that windshield wipers, an owl or a man searching
Speaker 1: for his damsel in distress. I didn't say a man.
Speaker 1: I said someone, Oh got I gotta got it. Um,
Speaker 1: So I'm going to say that was okay, So I
Speaker 1: think it's the obvious answer is owl. But the rain
Speaker 1: makes me think wind shield wipers. Well it's not wind
Speaker 1: shield wipers and it's not an owl, and but it
Speaker 1: is someone trying to find his damsel in distress. And
Speaker 1: here's another hint. Actually, what you think it sounds like
Speaker 1: rain is the popping and crackling of little shrimp clip
Speaker 1: clipping little claws. Wait, so okay, wait, so it's a
Speaker 1: So it's a person searching for their damsel in distress. Also,
Speaker 1: there are shrimp there. I didn't say a person, I said,
Speaker 1: someone searching for his damsel in distress. Wait someone, wait,
Speaker 1: someone or something, I mean someone something, some kind of animal.
Speaker 1: So you know, we're all we're all, uh, we're all
Speaker 1: the brotherhood of life here on this on this planet.
Speaker 1: I'm so confused, Joe. It's an animal of some kind
Speaker 1: of making this sound. Oh, okay, is it? Is it
Speaker 1: a Balian shark? Um? I mean that's actually I shouldn't
Speaker 1: laugh at you. I was laughing at your tone because
Speaker 1: you were so scared. But no, that's not a it's
Speaker 1: not a bad guess. In fact, you are right that
Speaker 1: it is a fish um, and it is actually a
Speaker 1: damselfish mating call. Oh, I see what you did. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's incredible because we don't think of fish being
Speaker 1: able to make sounds underwater, but in fact they do.
Speaker 1: We just can't really hear it due to our human
Speaker 1: ears not being good underwater. Instead of using vocal cords,
Speaker 1: fish can make noise by wiggling their swim bladders or
Speaker 1: rubbing their fin bones against their bodies like crickets. And
Speaker 1: I wish I had a swim bladder. Uh. The winner
Speaker 1: of last week's Mystery Animal sound game is ery L,
Speaker 1: who asked me if it was cheating if they found
Speaker 1: the same article that the sound was from. And no,
Speaker 1: it's not cheating. Go ahead and use Google. He's Google
Speaker 1: all the time, so not cheating. Great job. So now
Speaker 1: onto this week's mystery animal sound. This is the hint.
Speaker 1: It may be related to an elephant, but you're in
Speaker 1: for a surprise when you see who's saying hello. Um,
Speaker 1: that sounds to me like, okay, so I heard like
Speaker 1: kind of a clip clop. So part of me wants
Speaker 1: to think that, wants to say that it's a horse,
Speaker 1: but like I think that that might be like a
Speaker 1: seal or something, maybe a crab eater seal with its
Speaker 1: weird teeth. I could have been the clip flopping is Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: the answer to this week's mystery animal sound game will
Speaker 1: be revealed next week. Um and so if you think
Speaker 1: you know who is making this mystery sound, who is squawking?
Speaker 1: Who is talking? You can write to me at Creature
Speaker 1: Feature Pod at gmail dot com. I'm also on Instagram
Speaker 1: at Creature Feature Pod and on Twitter at Creature feet Pod.
Speaker 1: That's eight ten not ev et is something very different. Joey,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for gift And on the show.
Speaker 1: Where what are you up to? And what can people
Speaker 1: for working? Where the heck? Where the heck are you?
Speaker 1: Where can people find me? Um? Yeah, thanks so much
Speaker 1: for having me. Um You can follow me on Twitter
Speaker 1: at Joey Tagman. You can follow me on Instagram at
Speaker 1: Joey Cliff And uh, if you're listening to this and
Speaker 1: you're also straightening your teeth during the pandemic, uh, tweet
Speaker 1: at me and tell me how it's going. Tell me
Speaker 1: what trade you're on. Uh yeah, I guess. I guess
Speaker 1: it's a weird thing we're like because it's something I'm
Speaker 1: constantly dealing with. I love talking about it. So I
Speaker 1: guess I'm a teeth straight and an influencer now sure,
Speaker 1: why not? Um so? And then things I'm working on.
Speaker 1: Um Katie mentioned I'm a writer SUSI consulting to the
Speaker 1: Surer Spirangs on Netflix that comes out sometime in two
Speaker 1: um I have a short film that's going through festivals
Speaker 1: right now called My First Native American Boyfriend that you
Speaker 1: can probably watch, you know, in a festival near you
Speaker 1: at any point in the future. And um I just
Speaker 1: released an animated short through Comedy Central called how To
Speaker 1: Copeative team changing its Native American mascot. It's about just
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