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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Battleground Podcast. You'll pay for all these

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Speaker 2: And exclusive interviews with some of your favorite wrestlers abound, stop.

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Speaker 1: Doing, what's up you? Guys?

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Speaker 3: Welcome back into iHeartRadio's official wrestling podcast, the Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 3: And man, it is a great time to be a

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Speaker 3: wrestling fan because TNA Wrestling returns to Orlando, Florida with

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Speaker 3: Yes Live from Full Cell University Thursday and Friday of

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Speaker 3: this week, and well joining us on the show today,

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Speaker 3: we got Steph DeLanda, we got Mass Warner.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Guys?

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Speaker 4: How are you good? How you doing?

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Speaker 3: We are doing pretty good. Glad to have you on

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Speaker 3: the show. So let's go ahead and just jump right

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Speaker 3: into this. Man's everybody's talking about your debut in TNA,

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Speaker 3: especially with the twenty three mystery leading up. Of course,

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Speaker 3: a lot of people thought it was this thing, but

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Speaker 3: when it announced, it was a much even bigger pop.

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Speaker 1: Can you walk us through how this.

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Speaker 3: Surprise unveiling came together and what drew you to TNA

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Speaker 3: at this point in your career?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Man, Like I've said it before, I've been on the

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Speaker 2: independent scene. I've had every world title there is to have.

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Speaker 2: I've been watching TNA since it first started in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and two, two thousand and three, so I've been

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Speaker 2: a fan for the entire run. So the next logical

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Speaker 2: step is I want to level up. I want to

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Speaker 2: see what else I could do. The only way to

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Speaker 2: get better is fight more people.

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Speaker 5: So I go to TNA.

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Speaker 2: Everything worked out in that situation where boom, I'm debut

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Speaker 2: in Steph's real you know, coming back in and now

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Speaker 2: we're in the ring together. Every place I've been, I've

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Speaker 2: started at one spot and worked my way to the

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Speaker 5: Now you got me a step together.

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Speaker 2: There ain't a single soul in TNA that's going to

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Speaker 2: stop us from doing whatever we want.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that that's a you know, it's cool to

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Speaker 3: see your real life relationship go on to you know,

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Speaker 3: on TV, so people can kind of see a little

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Speaker 3: bit more of a glimpse into that. And you know,

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Speaker 3: one thing that has been really cool to watch is

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Speaker 3: Steph is your return to TNA. You introduced mans as

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Speaker 3: your boyfriend, you took ownership of the Digital Media Championship,

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Speaker 3: mentioning you got it in the divorce.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the storyline.

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Speaker 3: How did it develop, and you know, what does this

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Speaker 3: signify for your character's evolution and of course obviously bringing

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Speaker 3: your real life relationship into wrestling on TNA.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, as you mentioned, we won. You can see

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Speaker 4: it in the background. We won the TNA Digital Media Championship.

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Speaker 4: I want it in my divorce, which I think is

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Speaker 4: one of the most unique ways that you can win

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Speaker 4: a wrestling championship. I don't think anyone's ever done that before.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, coming back off my injury. You know, I'm

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Speaker 4: obviously still a ways out from getting cleared to wrestle,

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Speaker 4: but the fact that I have enough value in myself

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Speaker 4: you know, the having the championship, now getting getting to

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Speaker 4: introduce my real life boyfriend Mance into the mix. I

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Speaker 4: think it's just a testament to you know, people tune

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Speaker 4: into what we're doing. People want to see what SDL

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Speaker 4: is up to, People want to see what mans Want

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Speaker 4: this is going to go well. And I mean it's

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Speaker 4: I'm just excited to see, you know what crazy stuff

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Speaker 2: I like too the fan base of people that have

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Speaker 2: see what he's going to do, and if it's with

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Speaker 5: It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm ready to see Manson like a monster's ball match.

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Speaker 3: Let's just go ahead and book it. I mean, we

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Speaker 3: want to talk about your recovery staff after your next

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Speaker 3: surgery last year, your comeback has been very impressive. How

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Speaker 3: has the recovery journey influenced your in ring performance and

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm definitely very ahead of my recovery timeline, which

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Speaker 4: as far as how it's influenced how I'm gonna wrestle

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Speaker 4: mean I initially injured myself like three years ago when

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Speaker 4: the whole time, that I've been working with this bulging

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Speaker 4: my opponents when they wanted to give me pile drivers, like, hey,

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Speaker 4: But for the most part, I just kept it under

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Speaker 4: to do this for decades. I don't want to do

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Speaker 4: You know. So I've, as I said, I've already taken

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Speaker 4: I stopped taking German superlex's. Like the only person I

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Speaker 4: There's certain movements that, in my opinion, the risk just

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Speaker 4: I'm speaking to my surgeon. Like, I had a conversation

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Speaker 4: another way you can get around it. But the cool

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Speaker 4: thing about wrestling is you can modify what you do,

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Speaker 4: As I said, I've had a neck injury for the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's awesome and of course glad to see

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Speaker 3: that the recovery is doing very well, and I mean

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Speaker 3: soon we'll be seeing you in there, you know, taking

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Speaker 3: that everybody else is calling for you. Of course, TNA

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Speaker 3: and Man's You've been very vocal about being made for

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Speaker 3: TV and you hinted discussions with various promotions.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it landed you with TNA.

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Speaker 3: What do you see your role evolving in TNA and

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Speaker 5: Like I said, Man, I grew up watching TNA.

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Speaker 2: Every company I go to, I start at one spot

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Speaker 2: No one's gonna stop me. I will fight everyone that

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Speaker 2: I gotta fight, and at some point averon's gonna go TNA.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's Stepan Olmncer. That's that's where that's their playground.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's definitely gonna be fun to watch and

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Speaker 3: been talking about this, and uh, you know one thing that.

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Speaker 3: cub I mean showcase your resilience. I mean that was

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Speaker 3: I'm allowed to cus because this is my show. That

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Speaker 1: That was like a full blown fight.

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Speaker 5: There's very few people.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I hate Gay Kid and he hates me,

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Speaker 2: but there's very few people in this business that you

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Speaker 5: Me and him could get in their fight just with

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Speaker 5: our fist. Just so happened.

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Speaker 2: There was one door and a couple of chairs in

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Speaker 5: But that's it's a taste to what I do.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I could get in a ring with

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Speaker 2: and bust your teeth out. And for me, I'm excited

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Speaker 2: to show that at TNA. And like you said that

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Speaker 2: what me a gay kid, that that's that's a I

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Speaker 2: don't say match, that's that's fight of the year so far,

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Speaker 2: So anyone else fucking follow that, And I will continue

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Speaker 2: to do that at TNA coming up. Absolutely have two

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Speaker 2: live events. They're gonna be sold out. You're gonna have

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Speaker 2: you know, let's see what happens. The train is rolling,

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Speaker 2: jump on down. I would see what's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I mean here we are just two months

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm just gonna say it's a fight.

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Speaker 3: Like you said, the fight between you and Gave Kid

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Speaker 3: And you know, both of you had made significant impacts individually,

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I think it's one of those things

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Speaker 4: My motive is to come to work with my husband

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Speaker 4: I think us being together as a duo. In TNA,

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Speaker 6: There's people moving parts, people getting released from WWE, people

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Speaker 4: I could see myself winning the Knockouts World Championship. This

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Speaker 2: And for me, you know, everyone knows I don't got

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Speaker 2: I'm not here to make friends. This is something I

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Speaker 2: God damn, when I get there, ain't a single soul

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Speaker 5: Know Jat that screwdriver all the way and that man's

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man.

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Speaker 2: For me, I will find any single person there is,

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Speaker 2: You can insert the name of anyone I wouldn't. You

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Speaker 4: There's people that I used to work with, you know,

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Speaker 4: And I think that's going to be interesting too. Coming

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Speaker 3: Just have to watch and find out on TNA every week.

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Speaker 3: Last question, and this is always where we have fun.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the show.

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Speaker 3: We like to turn to chat GPT the robots to

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Speaker 3: But we had to slap it around a little bit

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Speaker 5: I don't know what it would be called. But the

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Speaker 2: We would send the people to family Dollar or Dollar

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Speaker 2: I'm talking with the gross pickles.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I have nothing to do with this is.

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Speaker 2: These are all the things that I love. I went

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I'm a redneck, you see. I can live for a

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Speaker 4: But what's the premise they're making.

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Speaker 5: The premise is, god knows what. They just got to

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Speaker 4: With us, So they're making this crazy meal of like

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Speaker 4: dollar Tree ships. If it impresses me, yes, then they went.

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Speaker 1: A cooking show. That's what it is.

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Speaker 4: Our podcast is called That's Cooked, So I think it

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Speaker 3: And then they have to just go the Dollar Tree

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Speaker 3: and they've got five dollars and they have to make dinner.

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Speaker 1: With what they have with the five dollars, and I have.

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Speaker 2: A headphone deal on like on the cooking shows, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know who.

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Speaker 3: We got to pitch this to somebody in Hollywood right now.

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Speaker 3: We got to make the show happen been coincides with

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Speaker 1: I think that would be a great show. I'll definitely

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Speaker 3: I'll even try to participate in it if if we

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Speaker 3: make this happen. So, uh, it's an honor and privilege

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Speaker 4: I just want to say, stay tuned with what's gonna

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Speaker 4: us on social media. I'm at Steph DeLanda, He's at Manswana.

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Speaker 4: I know it's corny, but this year really is going

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Speaker 4: A especially, So yeah, make sure you're you can say

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