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Speaker 2: On this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan Edge Stan Patrick

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Speaker 3: Here. Ross was asked this question.

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Speaker 2: I believe this was back in May, and Ross Tucker

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Speaker 2: was asked if he thought Caleb Williams was going to

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Speaker 2: be the Bear starting quarterback in three years. And Ross

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Speaker 2: Tucker said, I'd probably bet no based on what I've

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Speaker 2: seen so far. All right, after two weeks, you still

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Speaker 2: feel that way, We'll talk to Ross Tucker. He'll join

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Speaker 2: us coming up. Ross has the Dolphins and the Bills

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night.

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Speaker 4: Boy.

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Speaker 2: If the Dolphins get blown out, they're twelve and a

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Speaker 2: half point underdogs in Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, a lot of these owners were they're

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Speaker 2: They're like, I don't want to fire a coach somebody

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Speaker 2: I'm paying, But then you don't want to keep a

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Speaker 2: coach on that you're going to fire because you don't

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Speaker 2: want him to win his way back where all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden you end the season with four wins and

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Speaker 2: somebody saying, well, why are you firing him? You make

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Speaker 2: up your mind? And this happened. When did this happen?

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Speaker 2: Where somebody went into oh with the Knicks that Thibodeau.

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Speaker 2: You know, from what I was told, I think all

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Speaker 2: then you had injuries to other teams, and they of

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Speaker 2: course go to the Eastern Conference Finals and then we go, wait,

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Speaker 2: how can you fire him? Well, they didn't do a

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Speaker 2: good job with it because they didn't have somebody ready.

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Speaker 2: You know, they bring in Mike Brown. That's uninspiring. Don

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Speaker 2: Staley would have been interesting, but she, I think talked

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Speaker 3: She even said, are you guys ready for this?

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Speaker 2: You hire a you know, a female coach, the coach

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Speaker 2: far from a finished product. But after looking at the

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Speaker 2: past three Heisman winners Travis Hunter, Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams

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Speaker 2: and comparing that to teams thriving this season, maybe we're

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Speaker 2: seeing a new blueprint because it's not about landing the

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Speaker 2: five star recruit anymore. It's about building out your rostern,

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Speaker 2: being aggressive in the transfer portal and then grabbing some

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Speaker 2: proven talent. Look at Miami last year they brought in

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Speaker 2: cam Ward. This year they got Carson Beck Oklahoma, John

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Speaker 2: Mattier transfer portal to Heisman front runner and Tallahassee Thomas Castellanos.

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Speaker 2: He trash talking Alabama in the off season and then

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Speaker 2: backed it up. Florida State's back in the top twenty five.

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Speaker 2: So developing your player, maybe you do bring in some

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Speaker 2: transfer portal, but this is about also recruiting as well,

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Speaker 2: and you start to look at the Heisman favorites. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if there is a favorite. I mean, John

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Speaker 2: Mittier at Oklahoma look good against Michigan and by all

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Speaker 2: accounts appears to be the front runner, least according to DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: But it's pretty it's tightly bunched in there. I was

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Speaker 2: curious about arch Manning. Arch Manning is plus thirty five hundred.

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Speaker 2: He's not in the picture. John Mattier is plus eight hundred,

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Speaker 2: So you've got, you know, some players there that you

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Speaker 2: might know. But it feels like this is wide open.

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Speaker 2: Somebody's going to have a standalone game where they break

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Speaker 2: Michael in Salt Lake leads us off this hour. Hi Mike,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 5: Dan called you a couple of weeks ago about getting

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Speaker 5: married and went, well, I'm really good now I'm married

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Speaker 5: and the mother in law didn't cause any fuss, so.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Explain to the audience about your mother in law, because

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Speaker 2: I said, this is when you get married, you're a guy.

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Speaker 2: It's about your wife and your wife's mother. And you

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Speaker 3: So no issue with your mother in law.

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Speaker 5: No, she's a great lady. You know, just planning a wedding.

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Speaker 5: If you've ever planned a wedding, you know that the

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Speaker 3: Like you said, well, I'm glad that it went. It

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Speaker 3: went smoothly, no.

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Speaker 2: Incident there and many many happy years for you and

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Speaker 2: your wife.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Dan, I got a question or I got a

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Speaker 5: comment about the Heisman conversation.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm a.

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Speaker 5: Big University of Utah fan, and Utah brought in a

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Speaker 5: think this trend of OC quarterback transfer bringing him into

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Speaker 5: I think it's something a trend that's gonna we're going to.

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Speaker 5: But Devin dan Pier, he's got a standalone game this

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Speaker 5: He's gonna be a He's gonna be a.

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Speaker 3: We'll say, we'll sing, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: It's early, surely, but I I agree it used to

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Speaker 2: have to embrace that talent. You don't want to go, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're not doing any of that stuff you did in college.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's really important for some of these

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Speaker 2: And you're seeing that in college. Now you're bringing in somebody,

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Speaker 2: and you're able to kind of adapt to their style.

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Speaker 2: What makes you great? Let's let's try to take advantage

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Speaker 2: of that. Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 8: So, going back to your Heisman conversation in the eighties,

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Speaker 8: was it a career achievement award?

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Speaker 2: Well, they weren't giving it out to a freshman or

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Speaker 2: a senior award you had that I you know, fought

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Speaker 2: Sager was like, they're not going to give it to

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Speaker 2: When Marshall Falk at Fresno's San Diego State and it

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Speaker 2: might have been a game against Presno State. I remember

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Speaker 2: watching that game with other NFL people. I said that

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Speaker 2: he's the best player in college football. Well, you don't

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Speaker 2: because he's got three at least three years.

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Speaker 2: I go, no, no, no, no, you don't do it

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Speaker 2: that way. Who's the best player? That's what the Heisman

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Speaker 2: a freshman or saw herschel Walker was the best player

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Speaker 2: in college football, won a national title. Oh, you can't

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Speaker 2: give it to him. He'll get another chance. Like, you

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Speaker 2: can't do it. It's like, yeah, you know, when you

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Speaker 2: have young actors like Haley Joel Osmond should have won

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Speaker 3: The sixth sense.

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Speaker 2: He was spectacular and you can't you know, so if

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Speaker 2: you say, oh, he'll get his chance. No, he's not

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Speaker 2: getting his chance. He had his chance. He gave you

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Speaker 2: a performance of a lifetime. Yeah, but he's young, So what.

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Speaker 3: Agist?

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Speaker 10: Yes, Paulie, I went and looked at the November schedule

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Speaker 10: and it really sets up for Materier of Oklahoma either

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Speaker 10: winning it or losing it. His last five games at Oklahoma, Ole,

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Speaker 10: miss Tennessee, Alabama, Missouri, LSU. Yeah, those are all top

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Speaker 3: It's his and it used to be that.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you were in Nebraska or Oklahoma, you

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Speaker 2: back then, you know, it was really top heavy. You

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Speaker 2: know now you're if you're running through the SEC, literally

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Speaker 2: you're going to stand out. And you know that happened

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Speaker 2: with Cam, it happened with Johnny Manziel. If you're doing

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Speaker 2: on everybody else. U Curtis and Illinois, Hi Curtis, what's

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Speaker 2: on your mind today?

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Speaker 9: Morton DP Just following up on that, Dabbo Sweeney and

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Speaker 9: Clemson if they're not really happy with him, could you

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Speaker 11: An average season and they're just kind of sick of it.

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Speaker 11: And you know, obviously Kaylan is ever gonna hold up

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Speaker 11: to Saban and Alabama. So what do you say at

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Speaker 11: the end of the year, they just trade coaches and.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of buyouts there. And I, once again,

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Speaker 2: it's not my money, but I don't know if you're

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Speaker 2: trading coaches. All right, we're going to give you Dabbo

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Speaker 2: for Kaylin, but we want you know, we got to

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Speaker 2: get a couple of wide receivers here.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think that will happen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Clemson would be crazy to move on from

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Speaker 2: Dabbos Sweeney and I know it's what have you done

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Speaker 2: It's almost like when Mike Ruyzewski, you know, we don't

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Speaker 12: I don't totally disagree with your statement of overreacting to

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Speaker 2: Well, you only have seventeen games, and baseball, you have

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Speaker 7: Dan, thanks for taking my call. Six foot two, two

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Speaker 2: He's busy every week. He'll be in the radio booth

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow night Dolphins and the Bills, and then for CBSTV

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Speaker 2: All Right, let's turn our attention to tomorrow night, and

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Speaker 2: you got the Dolphins twelve and a half point underdogs,

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Speaker 14: And secondly, if you're gonna change, then you're not really

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Speaker 14: being who you are, You're not really being authentic. It's

436
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Speaker 14: almost like you can't win either way at that point.

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Speaker 2: But the players want to be coached by that Dan

438
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Speaker 2: Campbell or you know, because I I'll hear all he's

439
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Speaker 2: a players coach, players manager, and then all you know,

440
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 2: like Terry Francona was the perfect manager in Boston until

441
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: he wasn't the perfect manager. Oh, they're taking advantage of him.

442
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Speaker 2: He's too nice of a guy. You know, he's a

443
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Speaker 2: players manager and that's why they're winning. Come on, make

444
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Speaker 2: up your mind. What would do players want to be

445
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Speaker 2: coached like Belichick or coach by Mike McDaniel.

446
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Speaker 14: That that is such an awesome question that people don't

447
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Speaker 14: ask enough. And part of it is why when they're

448
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Speaker 14: doing the pre draft process they try to find the

449
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Speaker 14: guys that want to be coached hard, can take criticism

450
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Speaker 14: and also are self motivated discipline because you know what

451
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Speaker 14: the truth is.

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Speaker 4: Dan, I played for five teams. You know that.

453
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Speaker 14: You know, football players are just like most people out there.

454
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Speaker 14: A lot of football players they'd rather have a shorter practice,

455
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Speaker 14: they'd rather not have pads on, they'd rather not have

456
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Speaker 14: the discipline or like everybody. I think most people in

457
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Speaker 14: society have a tendency to drift towards wanting the easier path,

458
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Speaker 14: the easy way out. Well, you need to try to

459
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 14: do is have as many guys on your team as

460
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Speaker 14: possible that won't accept that, but I think that's the

461
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Speaker 14: natural default for a lot of guys, and I think

462
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Speaker 14: the Dolphins have certainly fallen into that.

463
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Speaker 2: Ross Tucker CBS Sports, Westwood One. He'll be on the

464
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Speaker 2: call tomorrow night, Westwood one Radio, Dolphins Bills, and then

465
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Speaker 2: Colt's and the Titans coming up this weekend. You also

466
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Speaker 2: had the Browns and the Ravens. You yelled at Joe

467
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Speaker 2: Flacco on the broadcast with the Browns Ravens.

468
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say I yelled at him.

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Speaker 14: I just said, by the way, I love Joe Flacco.

470
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Speaker 14: Philly guy has the house at the Jersey Shore.

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Speaker 4: Right near me.

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Speaker 14: And what I love about Joe is I think everything

473
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Speaker 14: I said he would say the exact same thing. I mean,

474
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Speaker 14: he told us before the game that his harshest critics

475
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Speaker 14: are his kids, and his twelve year old said, the

476
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Speaker 14: Browns are picking you to start, which I thought was amazing.

477
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Speaker 14: But listen, you know, if you have a guy like

478
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Speaker 14: Flaco starting, you cannot make that decision in that throw.

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Speaker 14: It was a thirteen to three game, you know, that's

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Speaker 14: the way the Browns have to win. They have to

481
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Speaker 14: be ugly, lower scoring games, and it was a surprisingly

482
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Speaker 14: poor decision.

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Speaker 4: It was a really bad throw.

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Speaker 14: It totally changed the game at that point and the

485
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Speaker 14: game got away from them.

486
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Speaker 4: And what I love.

487
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Speaker 14: About Flaco is if you guys got him on the

488
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Speaker 14: show or if he ends up being a color commentator,

489
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Speaker 14: he would say he'd say, that's a terrible job by me.

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Speaker 4: You can't do that. His brothers would tell him that

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Speaker 4: he knows.

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Speaker 14: I mean, it was just, you know, he was getting frustrated.

493
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Speaker 14: They weren't from the ball that well, they weren't scoring.

494
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Speaker 14: He got greedy and he made a really poor choice.

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Speaker 4: It happens.

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Speaker 2: If I said quarterback change with the Browns or the Giants,

497
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Speaker 2: which one would happen first.

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Speaker 4: That's a good question.

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Speaker 14: I will say the Giants because I think the Giants,

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Speaker 14: you know, they took Jackson Dart in the first round,

501
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Speaker 14: and I think that they have more hope that they

502
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Speaker 14: can have success with Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 4: I think the Browns probably want to win a game

504
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Speaker 4: first before they go to Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 14: Now, he looked good on that drive, but I think,

506
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Speaker 14: deep down, you know, in places people don't like to

507
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Speaker 14: admit it, if the Browns switched to Dylan Gabriel or

508
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Speaker 14: should or Sanders, I think that there'd be some concern

509
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Speaker 14: like what.

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Speaker 4: If we don't win a game? You know, I mean

511
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Speaker 4: what like what if we don't want a game? I

512
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Speaker 4: think get one one win on the on the Ledger.

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Speaker 14: Whereas the Giants I think probably feel like you know,

514
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Speaker 14: Dartz maybe just as good as Russell Wilson or giving

515
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Speaker 14: them just to give.

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Speaker 3: A chance to win a game right now anyway, do

517
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Speaker 3: you think the Browns want to win?

518
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Speaker 4: I do think the Browns want to win.

519
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Speaker 3: The management management, not players management.

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Speaker 14: Good question, Yes, I think. You know, it's interesting Jimmy

521
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Speaker 14: has them at one point said three and fourteen is

522
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Speaker 14: not good enough. And so what's fascinating about that is,

523
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Speaker 14: you know, I don't think he has delusions of grandeur.

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Speaker 14: I mean, you talk to people in Cleveland and they

525
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Speaker 14: know if everything goes well, they win seven games, right

526
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Speaker 14: But I think that they I think they don't want

527
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Speaker 14: to make their fans suffer through another season that's that bad,

528
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Speaker 14: Which makes the whole dynamic of when they bench Flaco

529
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Speaker 14: and put in Dylan Gabriel or Shador very very interesting

530
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Speaker 14: because I think the GM Andrew Berry and the head

531
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Speaker 14: coach Kevin Sefanski are on solid footing. I think the

532
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Speaker 14: guy above them, Paul de Podesta, whatever his title is,

533
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Speaker 14: I think that they take a long enough time horizon

534
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Speaker 14: view and they know the assets they have next year.

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Speaker 14: They know they have a great rookie class that's playing

536
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Speaker 14: very well.

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Speaker 4: But all takes the owner to change his mind.

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Speaker 14: I just don't think Stefanski and Barry would be operating

539
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Speaker 14: in the manner that they are playing this many rookies

540
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Speaker 14: trading down with the Travis Hunter trade if they thought

541
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Speaker 14: they really had to win this year.

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Speaker 2: The Tush push has re emerged. I'm not sure why

543
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Speaker 2: it came back up, other than well I kept it alive.

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Speaker 2: I should say, when you know, I'm having the head

545
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Speaker 2: of you know, officiating from Fox Dean Blamdino on and

546
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Speaker 2: he says, look, I've given up. I can't officiate this,

547
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Speaker 2: And I thought, ding ding ding ding ding. Now you

548
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Speaker 2: can say that to the owners, it's hard for us

549
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Speaker 2: to officiate this. Maybe you get those two other votes,

550
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Speaker 2: and then maybe you get rid of this plate this

551
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Speaker 2: new season. My point when I watched it ross is

552
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Speaker 2: the guards jump off sides like they're moving before everybody else.

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Speaker 2: You can call that. The one thing you can't call

554
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Speaker 2: is the spotting of the ball. I think that's really

555
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: difficult in that play. But is the tush push going

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Speaker 2: away at the end of this year?

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Speaker 14: Well, Number one, I don't really understand why the officials

558
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Speaker 14: didn't call the false starts on the Eagles guards, and

559
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Speaker 14: they should have, and then that would have changed things significantly.

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Speaker 14: And let me just tell you right now, we know

561
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Speaker 14: the NFL doesn't like the play and has pushed to

562
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Speaker 14: remove it, so they're going to be watching those guys

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Speaker 14: very very carefully.

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Speaker 4: I think this is probably the last year for it.

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Speaker 14: I think when you have that prominent of a game

566
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Speaker 14: and you have multiple false starts that aren't called, I

567
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Speaker 14: think that would be enough, probably Dan to invent a

568
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Speaker 14: couple of owners to be like, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 14: I mean, so that might have been a situation right

571
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Speaker 14: or wrong where the Eagles kind of won the battle

572
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Speaker 14: but lost the war.

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Speaker 4: My guess is this is the last year of it.

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Speaker 14: I still find it fascinating that no one else has

575
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Speaker 14: been able to replicate it. I mean, that's the impressive thing,

576
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Speaker 14: isn't that nobody can stop it. This is a quote

577
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Speaker 14: unquote copycat league, right. I mean Jonathan Gannon, Shane Stike,

578
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Speaker 14: and Kellen Moore, all these guys are head coaches that

579
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Speaker 14: came from Philadelphia over the last couple of years, and

580
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Speaker 14: they still can't replicate it with their teams, which then

581
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Speaker 14: goes to show that it's not the technique as much

582
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Speaker 14: as it's the people doing it.

583
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Speaker 4: Which isn't that Like, shouldn't.

584
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Speaker 14: That be a credit to the Eagles and not something

585
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Speaker 14: that they try to get rid of If the Eagles

586
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Speaker 14: have personnel that can execute something better than others.

587
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I've said.

588
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Speaker 2: I may not like it aesthetically, but it's football where

589
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: you know what I'm gonna do and you can't stop it.

590
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: But if you will allow the guards to be off sides, uh,

591
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Speaker 2: then I have a problem with that. I still just

592
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Speaker 2: take the guy from behind Jalen Hurts out and they'll

593
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: still be successful. It's a great offensive line, and you

594
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: have a quarterback who's unlike any other quarterback with his

595
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Speaker 2: ability you know, with his leg strength, they'll still be great.

596
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Speaker 14: I'm really glad you said that, because what people don't

597
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 14: understand is that even if they say you can't push, okay,

598
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 14: the Eagles will still run the play looking extremely similar.

599
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Speaker 14: You just won't have the guy come up and push

600
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Speaker 14: him from behind. They'll still have a lot of success

601
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Speaker 14: with it. People still won't like it stylistically, the injury

602
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 14: risk portion of it with the O line D line

603
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Speaker 14: in those crowds, But that's not changing like that, Like

604
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Speaker 14: that's not changed. Yeah, like the guy coming from behind

605
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 14: and pushing the quarterback, that doesn't really change the injury

606
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Speaker 14: risk part of it.

607
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Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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Speaker 14: I mean, they're gonna outlaw it after the year, I'm

609
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 14: very confident, and then the Eagles will just do regular

610
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 14: quarterback sneaks and have a lot of success.

611
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Speaker 2: But Dean Blandino said something yesterday that really caught my attention.

612
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Speaker 2: He said he thinks because the Eagles won the Super

613
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Speaker 2: Bowl that the other owners didn't want to seem like

614
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: sour grapes, and then they voted against the tush push

615
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Speaker 2: and maybe that's why it survived. That if the Eagles

616
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Speaker 2: don't win the Super Bowl, then it doesn't come across

617
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Speaker 2: as sour grapes that we can't stop it, so let's

618
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Speaker 2: get it out of the game.

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Speaker 3: Whether that's, you know, a.

620
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Speaker 2: Motivating factor in the off season, I don't know, but

621
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Speaker 2: this is the former head of officials saying that, Yeah, I.

622
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Speaker 14: Mean, twenty two voted to get rid of it, so

623
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Speaker 14: only ten voted to keep it. And it only takes

624
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Speaker 14: a couple to change. And I'm sure this offense, I mean,

625
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 14: all they're gonna have to do is show those couple

626
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Speaker 14: guys the fall stars. It's too hard to officiate it.

627
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Speaker 14: They can't see it. We can't see where the ball is,

628
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 14: we can't see where they're lined up. I think they're

629
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 14: probably pretty confident that they can get a couple guys

630
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Speaker 14: to change their mind.

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Speaker 2: Johns Allen broke his nose, and he was, he was,

632
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Speaker 2: have you ever had that during a game?

633
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Speaker 14: Never in a football game, because it's really hard to

634
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 14: break your nose with the face mask, right like that,

635
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 14: that's the reason why you have the face mask. Now,

636
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 14: like backyard football, basketball one time and like knee football

637
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Speaker 14: one time, I broke my nose. I can still kind

638
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Speaker 14: of still kind of feel. So he's gonna go visor,

639
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 14: which is smart. I don't even know. I had to

640
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 14: see it again to see how it actually happened, because

641
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Speaker 14: there should not be a way in which that happened.

642
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's the whole design of the face mask

643
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Speaker 4: in the first place.

644
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Speaker 2: Have you been out there where somebody's got blood all

645
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Speaker 2: over themselves during a game?

646
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Speaker 14: I don't remember blood like all over themselves. I mean

647
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Speaker 14: I've seen bad I've seen dislocated elbows where it went

648
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 14: the wrong way. I did have two different defensive linemens

649
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 14: spit in my face during the two thousand and four season.

650
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Speaker 14: That was nice, But no, I have not. I can't

651
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Speaker 14: remember seeing like gushing blood.

652
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Speaker 3: Do you say to the official, that guy just spit

653
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Speaker 3: on me.

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Speaker 4: No, in neither instance did I do it.

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Speaker 14: The one guy dan it must have been right after

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Speaker 14: a TV timeout, because it wasn't like spit.

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Speaker 4: It was like he had a mouthful of water and

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Speaker 4: he was saving it for me and spit on me

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Speaker 4: and blew it all over me. Now, that guy I

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Speaker 4: think might have been bipolar. So I wasn't messing with

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Speaker 4: that guy.

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Speaker 14: I was.

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Speaker 4: I had legitimately legitimate concerned about that guy. Now, the

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Speaker 14: That really bothered me, and I did with Marvin Lewis

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Speaker 14: and Washington.

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Speaker 4: So I was.

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Speaker 14: Screaming at the Bengals sideline to put him back in

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Speaker 14: the game so I could try to break his leg.

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Speaker 4: Those are the good So you know. The difference is

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Speaker 4: those guys didn't do it right in front of the refs.

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Speaker 14: Okay, so there was no penalty, so there was no cameras,

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Speaker 14: And what were they gonna do after the game.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna say anything about it after the game.

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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, by the way, this guy for the Brown

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Speaker 14: to this guy for the Bengals spit in my face.

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Speaker 14: But that's probably a record that people don't know how

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Speaker 14: many times you get spit in the face in one season.

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Speaker 14: Ross Tucker two thousand and four. Congratulations, Hey, we all

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Speaker 14: have to be good and known for something about a

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Speaker 14: round of applause for Ross getting Yeah right, okay, same travels.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, buddy.

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Speaker 4: That was great. See you guys.

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Speaker 2: That's Ross Chucker. It'll be in the radio booth Westwood One.

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Speaker 2: It'll be Bill's Dolphins tomorrow night and then Sunday on CBS,

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Speaker 2: Colts Titans. Take a break your phone calls next.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

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Speaker 1: listen live. I saw clip of Sylvester Stallone. He was

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Speaker 1: on with Jimmy Fallon and he was talking about the

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Speaker 1: scene in Rocky where he runs up the steps in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: And he said, initially he was carrying his dog up

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Speaker 1: the steps and that dog weighed one hundred and thirty pounds,

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Speaker 1: And he said, I got halfway up and I went

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Speaker 1: the dog is out of the scene, just gonna meet

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Speaker 1: me running up the steps because he was going to

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Speaker 1: carry his.

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Speaker 2: Dog out to the steps. He's like, Nope, get the

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Speaker 2: dog out of here.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Paul, I've never been to that spot in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 10: Was the Rocky statue put there for the movie and

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Speaker 10: they left it up? Or did the movie do really

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Speaker 10: well and then they put the statue there permanently? Like

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Speaker 10: how did it end up there? Is it like a

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Speaker 10: tourist attraction?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they didn't have a Rocky statue.

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Speaker 10: No, That's what I'm saying. Like, was it put there

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Speaker 10: when they shot the scene in the movie and they

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Speaker 10: just left it forever or like years later.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's a statue of Rocky there.

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Speaker 10: Oh I thought there was no.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I'm pretty sure there is. I mean

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Speaker 3: there is one now, Yeah.

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Speaker 8: In one of the later movies after He's a Superstar,

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Speaker 8: there's a statue there.

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Speaker 2: But for the original there's not a Rocky right right, yes,

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Speaker 2: when it's the famous one.

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Speaker 3: Wondering when it went in, Yes, Martin, Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I went to Philadelphia about two years ago and there

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Speaker 8: was a nice long line of thing and taking pictures

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Speaker 8: with the Rocky statue at those steps.

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Speaker 3: Pete in Seattle, Hi, Pete. What's on your mind today? Morning?

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Speaker 3: Dan Morning.

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Speaker 6: Earlier, the guys played a clip a few with Ken

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Speaker 6: Griffy Jr. Yeah, and it reminded me of the joy

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Speaker 6: which that man played the game, including playing video games

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Speaker 6: with kids in the dugout for special kids and stuff

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Speaker 6: like that. The main memory I had when you bring

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Speaker 6: up both is you remember Junior and Senior played together

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Speaker 6: at the Kingdome for about a year. I think Senior

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Speaker 6: was like the forty seventh left fielder to play with Junior,

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Speaker 6: but came up with Kansas City hit a line drive

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Speaker 6: into the corner Jewett Senior picked it up, threw bow

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Speaker 6: out at second base, and Junior test sat down in

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Speaker 6: center field for about three minutes and did nothing but laugh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a great moment. They both homered in

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Speaker 2: a game. Pretty cool. Corey in Kansas City, Hi, Corey,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 15: Hey, good morning, mister Patrick, Marv Seaton, Wu Tang forever

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