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Speaker 1: Chargers beat the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: It really wasn't close.

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Speaker 1: As we look at the teams stats, I think the

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Speaker 1: Absolutely thirty nine minutes time of possession, four hundred and

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, this game is representation. If you looked in

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Speaker 3: he didn't play bad. I don't know what's wrong with

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Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy. They say he's hurt. I don't think he's hurt.

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Speaker 3: I think they're they're regretting the fact that they let

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Speaker 3: He had a bad game. Fifteen for twenty seven one four.

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Speaker 3: They tried. He got sacked five times too. You got

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Speaker 3: He has seven for seventy four. But when you can't

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Speaker 3: and all they got to do is pin their ears

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Speaker 3: He was sacked five times. The Chargers needed this win too.

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Speaker 3: They needed this win to get the bad taste out

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Speaker 3: who had been on fire all season long outside of

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Speaker 3: one game. So, I mean, Justin Herbert looked good. Running game.

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Speaker 3: They couldn't stop the running game. When you can't stop

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Speaker 3: only do two things, though, Joe.

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Speaker 1: You could either running football to throw it. You need

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why the game looked like this. Obviously, they

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Speaker 3: you get. You get thirty seven points and you say

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Speaker 1: M yeah, well this is what Andy did to them

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Speaker 1: was only on a short week. Let's get that taste

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Speaker 1: The one thing, look, Jim Harbaugh, his teams normally are

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Speaker 2: The pass rush. What's his name?

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Speaker 1: From the Raiders and the Bears and now he's the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: I understand Derwin James back then the secondary, but I'm

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Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphin fans are kicking them, like, man, we

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Speaker 1: could have had that. Yes, you could have yes, but

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Speaker 1: Chargers look really good. At five and three, the tied

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Speaker 1: tough matchup. Is that game Sunday night or is that

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Speaker 3: They might they need to they need to flex it

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Speaker 3: if it's not a four o'clock at night game.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think you can flex the

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Speaker 2: And I don't think I don't think CB. I think

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Speaker 1: Look, they only get they only get the Cowboys maybe

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Speaker 2: So they really trying to give the Cowboys up now.

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Speaker 1: Fox Fox like, hey, we can all, we all we

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Speaker 1: Will you take one? Okay, We're cool. CBS like a no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: But I look Minnesota, I agree with you, O Joe.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, and and uh we were talking

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Speaker 1: Ash and I were talking about what the forty nine

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Speaker 2: See. It was easy for the forty nine.

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Speaker 1: Ers because they put the competition up and Brock Purty

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Speaker 2: Yes, Sir JJ McCarthy was gonna be the starter. He

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Speaker 2: got hurt. So we are top ten pick and we

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Speaker 1: It's gonna take at least thirty million dollars to sign

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnod and we still got a top ten pick

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Speaker 1: that we really believe in Minnesota, if you ask them,

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Speaker 1: they're saying, considering the way Sam Donald's played, way he

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Speaker 1: they say we want him. We would take him over Sam,

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Speaker 1: We take him over Carson Wentz and JJ McCarthy. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately, you got to make a decision. You got

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Speaker 1: trying to bring Sam Donald back on a three year,

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Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar deal and you've got a guy

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Speaker 1: that you took it with the top ten pick on

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Speaker 1: your bench because.

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Speaker 2: You hold on.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I I'd rather I'd rather not guess, I'd

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Speaker 3: rather go with what I know I'm getting as opposed.

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Speaker 3: I'm unsure, but we picked him at a certain slot

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Speaker 3: I think he's healthy and they just don't want to

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Speaker 3: go back to him. They want Carson Wentz. They wanted

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna be comfortable making that decision because Jordan

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Speaker 2: Got no problem. We got to veteran guy.

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Speaker 2: They were mainly a running team under Harbor.

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Speaker 2: He makes his mind up. Man. He tried.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't,

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Speaker 3: You know, Brian Florees and that defense. Obviously they didn't

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Speaker 1: Can you stay on the field that yeah, because if

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: We need you to take a look, a give us

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see what see what's going because that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they balling now, Bears balling.

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Speaker 2: So when you look at it Oho and you look

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Speaker 1: What they did last year, what they were fourteen and

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Speaker 2: The deal that's manageable. They have to give him forty

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Speaker 3: But that's a that's a family discount what you're talking about, Yes,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be h. I mean the Vikings, Vikings beat

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Speaker 2: He had a suspension.

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Speaker 1: Once they start getting those guys back, Green Bay is

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Speaker 1: Green Bay. If y'all couldn't keep if y'all couldn't keep

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Speaker 3: Luck with that, that's gonna be. That's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe.

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Speaker 1: The biggest story I know is football, but the biggest

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Speaker 1: Portland Trail Blazer's head coach Chauncey Billups in Miami heat

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Speaker 1: gar Terry Rosier were arrested by the FBI in separate

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Speaker 1: the Bonano, the Gentleviees, the Colombia, the Columbia Colombo, and

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Speaker 1: part in a rigged poker game in Manhattan, according to

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Speaker 3: Hey uh man, listen, man boy, this is this is big.

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Speaker 2: This is huge. This ismous.

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Speaker 3: Listen. This is like an episode of Lord Order you

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Speaker 3: hear me? Okay, I understand the gambling part. Yes, What

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Speaker 2: That's what the real mob does.

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Speaker 1: They're not flashy, yeah yeah, yeah, but they have they

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Speaker 1: what it looked like that what happened in the Damon

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Speaker 2: They had already got the money.

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Speaker 1: So now the line is gonna come down, but they

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Speaker 3: Go head, go ahead, let me let me get comfortable

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Speaker 1: This this is why I stopped going to going. We

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: We led somebody money. The thing was, I wouldn't lend

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Speaker 1: But anyway, okay, they started letting other people come in.

434
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: Oh strange, other people come came in because we didn't care. Hey,

435
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 1: bray at first, if we used to have like ten

436
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 1: packs of ten packs of dice, and sometimes hey, you

437
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 1: get hot on the dice, you keep thee for like

438
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 1: five ten minutes. Hey, you put the dice in your pocket.

439
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 1: Say hey, man, these my special dice. I don't want

440
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: nobody else to touch these, right right right well and

441
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: behold they let other people. They start letting other people

442
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 1: come in out like, but who is you?

443
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 2: Man? I know such and such.

444
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 3: Oh with this even they came in there with some

445
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 3: damn trick dice.

446
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 2: Huh man. They came in there with them crooks with

447
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: a loaded dice. And the thing was, O joe.

448
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 1: The hardest the hardest points on the dice to hit

449
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: is ten and four, because there's only two ways you

450
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: can make it. You can make it five five or

451
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 1: you can make it six four. Yeah, the same thing

452
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: with four you get three to one, you get two two,

453
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: you get flowers, or you get a little jokokomo. So

454
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: that's it, man, That jogger throw them dice. It rolled ten,

455
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: so you know ay, so you know, ay, everybody go

456
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: with that ten. You ain't fitna hit that ten. Hey,

457
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. I don't know, Chad, if

458
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: y'all ever gamble before, but if you want to break

459
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: up a dice game, hit ten and four out of

460
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: saw cars in exchange hands out of saw. A lot

461
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: of ish happen with that ten of four. Come on,

462
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: but anyway he came out. He hit ten, So you know,

463
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: everybody jump on to hey, you know, jump on it

464
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: with both feet. Two. You ain't fitny hit that, right,

465
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: So he took a cool to two hundred, two hundred

466
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 1: off meat, you know, yeah, yeah, damn. I said, let

467
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 1: me come back, let me come back.

468
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: He rolled the four back to bag. He rolled a ten.

469
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: He kicked the ten.

470
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, the end was hitting it out the door,

471
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 1: So I said, what the So I only go over

472
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: there with like twenty twenty five hundred right right right?

473
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 2: The dice game up hit for about thirty what thirty?

474
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: What thirty thirty bad? You gotta realize it's LA fifteen

475
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: twenty of us in there.

476
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: We all NFL players, So we all got bred or

477
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: guys would go to the at M and hit money and.

478
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 2: Come I'm back.

479
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: Oh hey, hey, y'all, some was up. Man, Oh Joe

480
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: getn't know, so I tell him my homeboy burns. He

481
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: had gone out of town because at the time Michelle

482
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: was in Virginia, so bye week, you know, not a

483
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: bye week.

484
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: But he would go home.

485
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: So he would leave that Monday, go home, stay Monday night,

486
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: come back Tuesday.

487
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: Because a lot of.

488
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: Times we didn't have price we win, we didn't have

489
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: we didn't have no meeting, we have anything. Just get

490
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: back Wednesday, right right right. As a matter of fact,

491
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: he was catching the red and I get homes early

492
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: Monday morning. But anyway, I told her, I said, man,

493
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: brand you ain't gonna believe this. I said, dude, broke

494
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: the game up. He said what he said?

495
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 2: What he was here?

496
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: I said, dude, we had a dude named Reggie, Reggie Hayward.

497
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: He broke the game up. He had the dice for

498
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 1: like an hour. I ain't never seen nobody getting down hot,

499
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: but it was legit. He had the dice for an hour.

500
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: Every point on the dice he hit, he was seven

501
00:24:54,680 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: out the door a lud a that four five. Hey,

502
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: if you was talking about burning fifty four died in

503
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: sixty three, what's my point? Na ya yay, gotta hit it,

504
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: yah yah what Jesse James Carrey forty five? Hey, hey,

505
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: he rolled for him and Smith walk up out the door,

506
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: stayed on the dice for an hour. I said, burns,

507
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: old boy ten and folk had the dice just like that. Yeah.

508
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: The next week the guy house that he was was at,

509
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: he would roll the dice. Had two grand out there,

510
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: had everybody had it. He crapped out, He picked the dice.

511
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: Up and threw them.

512
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: They split open. Oh oh, now you can see where

513
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: the weight was. So I go, I don't hear about

514
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: this till the next sold. This is a little Monday.

515
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: They start calling me, man sharp, you ain't gonna believe this.

516
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: I said, what man, Man boy had crooks? I said, yeah,

517
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: he had the way the dice. Like, yeah, man, what

518
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: you think we should do? I said, I don't know

519
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: what y'all gonna do. I ain't gonna do nothing because

520
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to jail. So I said, look, I'm done.

521
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: From that point, I said, I'm done. I thought, Bird,

522
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: if you want to.

523
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: Go, He's like you ain't going. I ain't going.

524
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: But anyway, and I started, I look, boy, look here,

525
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: I started to get the dude that vouched for him

526
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: and I knew him, but he we've been cool. You

527
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: vouched for him, you vouched for him. You got to

528
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: cover here. But anyway, dude brought a brand new brought

529
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: a brand new maximum get it out per new gear.

530
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: That's what stopped me from doing. That's what stopped me

531
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: from doing the house game. I got it first of all.

532
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 1: It's gotta be like us, it gotta be us. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

533
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: no all, I ain't talking about no horrible Sorry, I'm sorry,

534
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Oh yo, your homeboy, your homeboy can't play right.

535
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: Everybody me, you, x y z We and a bell

536
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: player boot. I believe we're gonna be on the up

537
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: and up. If somebody come to the game, they know it,

538
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: they know it's money gonna be there. Yeah, gonna come

539
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: in and cheat the card game the same thing. That's

540
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: what happened with the online poker. Guys had had the

541
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: online poker. He had he had the uh uh uh

542
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: you know it's what they call it. But anyway, he's

543
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: he he They can see your cards, so he's crazy.

544
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 3: Technology is so advanced. Listen the part that scared me young,

545
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: I understand Chancey in trouble. I understand Damon Jones in trouble.

546
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 3: I understand Terry Rozier. For one, I'm not risking it.

547
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 3: I'm not risking the Listen that I'm.

548
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: In risking it. Huh, think somebody a lot of this

549
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: stuff happened in twenty three. It's twenty five. Oh you

550
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: ojo what criminal you know? Make a score and said

551
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 2: I'm done?

552
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: I quit.

553
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: Well, you can't, but you understand. When the FBI get

554
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: it holy in that, THENBI they watch it for.

555
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: They don't let it run. They gotta wait till they

556
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: get you.

557
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: Oh yo, I can't get you with one charge because

558
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: you a bout your first time.

559
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 2: You're gonna get off. I got to get you deep.

560
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: I gotta make sure the hook is set.

561
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: You got They gotta build up, they gotta bild up this.

562
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 2: This is scary.

563
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: You gotta set the hook because if you don't set

564
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: it right, a big one gonna get away.

565
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely. But this is the part that scared

566
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: me though, right like understanding, understanding, Okay, I understand the

567
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 3: gathering part. It's the part about being part of the mafia,

568
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: being entangled into it. Man, listen, that's a no note

569
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: for me right there, off back. I done seen any Sopranos, Yeah, yes,

570
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: I done seen Good Fellas. I know it's a depiction

571
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: of of a fictional story maybe, but that's real life.

572
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

573
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about extortment. I'm thinking about once you tied

574
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 3: into them, man, that's you.

575
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: You got a point shade. Now you've got to feed

576
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: them information is what I hate most. Look, and I

577
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: knows I know Chouncey Billim since he was in high school.

578
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: He went to g DUB in Denver, Colorado, which was

579
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: about a mile from where I was staying. I used

580
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: to stay in the Breakers. Anybody from Denver know exactly

581
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: whether Breakers are on Mississippi and where? And the uh

582
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: and where g Duve is a car wash used to

583
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: be a Sterling car washed right across the street. Chouncey

584
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: Billis went to g DUB. He was sensational, sensational, three

585
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: time mister Basketball All State all year. So we get that,

586
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: and so I feel bad for Chauncey uh uh uh

587
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: and and I hope, I hope this is this, this

588
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: is what they suggest, But my thing is and I

589
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: hope this is just, but Damon Jones, do everybody knows

590
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: what Lebron goes through to try to make sure he

591
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: has no staying no, because what did they put in

592
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 1: the paper? They put Lebron James. This man has done

593
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: everything he possibly could to keep his nose clean to

594
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: make sure he doesn't have the people. Look, Maverick, he

595
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: grew up with Rich, he met at a very young age.

596
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: Randy he grew up with, so he's insulated himself. Lebron

597
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of close friends. You see him,

598
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: you gonna always see Randy. Randon is his sheep of staff.

599
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: Rich is his agent.

600
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: Obviously, Maverick handles all the other business inquiries.

601
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: You put this man on the spot because it's a

602
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: legend that you sold information that Lebron is not gonna

603
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: play before it became public knowledge. And they say they

604
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: have a text message or something between the two. I

605
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: just I just hate, I just hate.

606
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: And obviously the funny thing about that Lebron doesn't know.

607
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: I mean them them exchanging message, him letting them know.

608
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: That's like me texting and we finna play the raiders.

609
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: But I'm not playing like that's that's no harm, no

610
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: foul on Lebron part because he had no idea.

611
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: What's going on exactly? Yeah.

612
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: So, But but the one thing, and when I was

613
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: talking about about them being dealing with the mafia, you

614
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: understanding these people have no regard for life. No Once

615
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: you in business with them, that means you got the always.

616
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: Once they got the hooks in you. I need all the.

617
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: Answers I need who's playing, who's coming out, what's the

618
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 3: score line gonna be? And what happened when you get

619
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: it wrong? What happened when you mess up? What happened

620
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: when when you you you place the bet and you

621
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: give him certain information and it doesn't come out the

622
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: way it should and they lose money.

623
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: Well, all of a sudden you say he's not gonna

624
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: play it. Then all of a sudden he plays. He

625
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: a game time and he end up playing.

626
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 3: Hold on, what about this? Once you in, once you

627
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: in with him like that, what about you know what,

628
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: I don't want to do this no more.

629
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to I want to do it no more.

630
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: And if it's reported that the like he got twenty

631
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars so on a fifty thousand dollar bet.

632
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: I think it was a fifty thousand dollars bet. Wasn't

633
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: it fifty thousand dollars? Bit?

634
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: How much wasney? It was over one hundred thousand. They

635
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: gave you twenty five hundred.

636
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: Now what what hold on? They didn't even give you

637
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 2: ten percent. They gave you two percent? What the hell

638
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: I would do with that? Hey, oh Joe, Yeah.

639
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: If it's two billion, I'll take ten I'll take two percent.

640
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: But not, no, damn one hundred thousand. Nah, absolutely not.

641
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: I just absolutely not. Hey, Hey, I'm listen.

642
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: I understand the gambling part right, And the gambling part

643
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 3: to me because I've been in that lifestyle. I don't gamble,

644
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: y'all know my chea basketall gamble. I'm saying. I've just

645
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: been in that world for so long and seeing so

646
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 3: many people gamble past thirty years. The part that is

647
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: that has me stunned and it is amazed, is, boy,

648
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: you're dealing with the mafia, like I think. I think

649
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: people just like letting it.

650
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: Go and they hell they read it.

651
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: Damon Jones, Chauncey, Chauncey and goddamn Terry Roseier is the

652
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: only one that's on the goddamn news. Well, where's everybody else?

653
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: What the other thirty name? I gotta get thee Oh Joe,

654
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: let me ask a question. When the last time you

655
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: see somebody post a fish that was this big? They

656
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: post the trophy fish. Yeah, they are the trophies. Yeah.

657
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: So now you you lose, you lose your job, you

658
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 3: lose your career. But you know they're still gonna be

659
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 3: making their money. Uh oh yeah, they ain't gonna you know,

660
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, you know it's not gonna stop, absolutely not. Bro.

661
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: Look here.

662
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: And I I used to gamble, I did. I mean

663
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: I used to come to Vegas and gamble. I gamble

664
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: on the plane. We played you know, we used to

665
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: play Tonk and we used to play in between. Yeah,

666
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: pots get up to five ten, twenty thousand, thirty thousand

667
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: dollars American money.

668
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: Yes, mash boy, y'all man, y'all tripping man.

669
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: Man.

670
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: Look, I took a car for guy. I felt bad

671
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: for him because I know if he had to go home,

672
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna get a divorce. He had he had arrest

673
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: tho chavel four fifty four, right, black beautiful, you took

674
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: the pink slip, I said, man, give me give me

675
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: three grand.

676
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: Call of the day.

677
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: Y'all were betting called pink slips.

678
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: Hey, he gotta be got in the hold and that's

679
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 2: what happens. Oh yoe, he was in the whole. Hello,

680
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: that was a story I hear about a dude name.

681
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 1: I think his name is Jeffrey Wantonaby lost two hundred

682
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: and four million dollars lost his family fortune.

683
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: Read it go read about it two hundred don't read

684
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: about it a chat? No, his name was Terry. I

685
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: think his name was Terence Wantonabi a chat.

686
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 3: Somebody send that to my instagrams or my Twitter polease,

687
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: I got I got to read that. How do you lose?

688
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: Did you see the movie The Gambler?

689
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: Yes?

690
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: Yes, Like I didn't know people had issues like that

691
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 3: where they're addicted to gambling.

692
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: Gambling, yeah, alcohol, drugs, Yes, it's an addition. It's in doorphins,

693
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: it's a hot it's a rush.

694
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: How do you you lose twenty fifty thousand? You go

695
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 3: to the shark and ask for more money too? Oh?

696
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 2: Hold on? Read that a lout and say what he

697
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: was ash two hundred and forty.

698
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 4: Twenty forty million? Yes, At what point do you say stop?

699
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 4: Or what point do you say, no, I lose twenty dollars,

700
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna lose my mind.

701
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah he was up. But see here's the thing, oh Joe,

702
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: same thing. There was a guy named Arnie at the Benyons.

703
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: He was up, he was up fifty million, lost it

704
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: all back. He had every five thousand dollars chip that

705
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: was in the hotel. The hotel used to have to

706
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: casino used to got to come to his room and

707
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: get the chips because he had them all.

708
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: He lost it all. You know, I don't understand.

709
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 3: I just I can't. I can't grasp the concept I understand. Listen,

710
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: I really can't talk now because I just started. I

711
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: just started playing a little black jack myself. Every time

712
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: I go to Vegas is I don't go to Vegas often,

713
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 3: but they go to the black jack table. You know

714
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: how much I spend. I take two hundred dollars out

715
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: of a ten. I paid the twenty five dollar hands. Yeah,

716
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: when that two hundred dollars gone, man, I'm hurting and

717
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 3: it's only two hundred dollars. And now you you saying

718
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 3: these extraordinary numbers.

719
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: How the hell you.

720
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: Lose two and forty million when you get down, you

721
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: try to get it back, because let me tell you

722
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: how it happens. Okay, I lose fifty, Hey, I lose fifty.

723
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet one hundred to try to get it back.

724
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: Now I'm down one hundred and fifty. So guess what

725
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: I gotta do, o Joe, I'm ana bet two hundred

726
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna get all three. I'm gonna get the

727
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: two hands that I lost, and I'm gonna be plus fifty.

728
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: And before you know it, now you've betten twenty five fifty,

729
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand a hand. So how long will it

730
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: take you? Because if you go on a rush, you

731
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: go on to run, you could back. Hey, go back

732
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: and look I think it with the MGM carry Pat

733
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: what was it? Daddy name Packard? He was an Australian billionaire.

734
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: Go read about what he did, what he did to

735
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 1: the MGM, how he directed quarterly reports.

736
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: He wrecked it.

737
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: Yes, when he won, he went on the run.

738
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: He won, Yes, big time.

739
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 3: But you know.

740
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: That was that was serving him. She would bringing him

741
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: you know his you know, smooth as a water or

742
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: whatever it was. Go get your mortgage. I'm gonna pay

743
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: it off for you.

744
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 3: Oh he was talking spicy.

745
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 2: He did it carry packard is yeah, yes, dmn GM

746
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: thad about it. I know all the stories.

747
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, gambling. Gambling is an addiction. Uh, absolute, and listen.

748
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: A lot of people say, stop acting night. See, there's

749
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: certain things that I don't know about. There's certain things

750
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: that I don't know about because it was never It

751
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 3: never sparked my interests. That's not something that that It

752
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: ain't like soccer. I could take you by, I could

753
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: talk about boxing, I talk about tennis.

754
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 2: But but gambling him, I just started.

755
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: I just started playing black jack this year.

756
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh he was a whale. Those are what

757
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: they call whales. One of the guy used to be

758
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: a pinhouse. One of the guy on pin House. Uh

759
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: he was in the wheelchair.

760
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 3: Oh damn, I forgot his name. I met him one

761
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: time on he on Hustler. Yes, yes, yes, damn, I

762
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: forgot his name.

763
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: I met him. I met him in La. He passed away.

764
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 2: He was a whale.

765
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: Larry Flint, Yeah, mister mister Flint, that's right.

766
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but oh show. The thing is is that, well,

767
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: I played a couple of hands. You know, hey, you

768
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: know I.

769
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, how how much you how much you

770
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: were better? Now I don't mean to be in your.

771
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: Business, but I mean, oh show. We was at the rio.

772
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: We was at the rio, okay, and it was me

773
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: seven thirty fifty three and crop Pot. It was us. Yeah.

774
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: So we're playing. So I had like twenty five thousand

775
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: on me. John John was playing John would so I had,

776
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, I've won, and he was playing. So he

777
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: get a card he split, so he got so he

778
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: split them. Then it was another o the same cards

779
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 1: he split that we had about he had about six

780
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: cards that was split, and then he ended up doubling down.

781
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: We had like forty thousand on the table and the

782
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: dealer bus he took all mine. Cause if if the

783
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: dealer would have hit all my looks with five thousands gone,

784
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: He's like, give me your money.

785
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: Look, wow, whoa hold on?

786
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: Hit?

787
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: You na give you my money? What kind of bull job?

788
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: Ask?

789
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: Would be one? But it's a oho. Ain't nothing like it.

790
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: It's nothing like sitting there, you play five thousand or

791
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars a hand and then you.

792
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: Get black jack. Oh you goetta.

793
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: They tell me what gets scary Ocho? What gets scary

794
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: Ojoe is that. When you get a double down hand

795
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: and you got five thousand or you got ten thousand

796
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: on the wood.

797
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, now when you got a double day, when you

798
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: got a double down hand, you got ten thousand on

799
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: the wood. What that means you double your money.

800
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: You doubled it.

801
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: So you gotta put ten thousand, ten ten more with it,

802
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: double it, or you split it. You gotta put ten

803
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: Guess what happens.

804
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: O joe.

805
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: You get a double down hand, yeah, you get a split.

806
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: You gotta split hand. So let you get say you

807
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: get a pair of eights or a pair of nines

808
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: against sir seven or below. Yeah, you're gonna split them.

809
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: Now you get a three or two or three. Now

810
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: you doubling that. So now that's twenty thousand. Now you

811
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: get this head, you get a split, you get a double.

812
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: Now you double that twenty twenty thirty forty. That's forty

813
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: thousand on the wood.

814
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it ain't worth and you hit me it ain't

815
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: worth it because I want I'm thinking about the loss.

816
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about the loss.

817
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: You can't think like that, so you can't go to

818
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: the table because you can't look at the CHIPS's money.

819
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: You look at them as objects. Now the moment you

820
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: look at them as money, get up from the table.

821
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: Hey for one, for one? Unless you make the kind

822
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: of revenue and you have disposable income. Yah, shouldn't be

823
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: gambling no way, Yeah, unless you have disposable income.

824
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: I don't care.

825
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: NFL players, I don't care how much out. If you

826
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: got a fifty eighty million dollars contract, your ass shouldn't

827
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: be at no goddamn crap table or playing blackjack or

828
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: no no rotisseriy or none of that. Yeah, what's the

829
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: one in the circle again with it's called that's.

830
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: Roulette about that's a that's a league. That's a gambling league.

831
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: But anyway, I know what you meant. And plus the

832
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: new thing now is Bacarrock read the field live.

833
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: Your story.

834
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: Few ivy famous. I know that name.

835
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: I know he'll he'll a poker player. But they went,

836
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: they went, they went overseas him in a uh in

837
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: a in a Chinese lady. Yes, sir, read about that story.

838
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 2: It's good or bad?

839
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: Uh, it's bad. Well, he won, but they fought because

840
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: the lady could count cards. You can see the imperfections.

841
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 4: Mhm.

842
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: But oh Joe, that gambling man is a oh yoe.

843
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: Why you think people be watching the game. You think

844
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: they really be liking these teams?

845
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: Some people do.

846
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 1: I got fantasy and I got real money. You messing

847
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: up my party. That's why they call you the N word,

848
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: That's what it because then you suck. That's why they

849
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: say you worse than the look brother, you lost.

850
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 2: Me my money.

851
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: What the.

852
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: Hey?

853
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: If you can't stand and lose your money, you don't bet,

854
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: you don't. You don't bet where you suck? Man, I'm

855
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 3: telling you, hey, hey, hey, that's that's fascinating. It's fascinating

856
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: hearing the stories, it's fascinating. But I can't put myself

857
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 3: in position to put my money where I have no

858
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 3: control over whether I win and lose.

859
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want to.

860
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: The house don't let you win. I have heard enough

861
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 3: horror stories.

862
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: Just stay right.

863
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: You got to be able to see the thing, the how,

864
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: the reason why the house wins so much. They can

865
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: weather the storm because guess what, o Joe, if you

866
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: start winning too much, they'll ask you to leave.

867
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's enough, mystery, that's enough, mister Johnson. No

868
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: what what you know? You think you we think you

869
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: haven't you've done enough for tonight? The question is when

870
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 2: you win, can you get up on your own?

871
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: Leave? Because they don't asher you to when you lose it,

872
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: they don't ask you to leave. Can you ask yourself

873
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: to leave when you lose? When you start? Can you

874
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: leave when you start to lose?

875
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: This?

876
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: Oh? Yoe? This is what happened. Excuse me, This is

877
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: what happens in the game and space.

878
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean, hey, can you imagine? How do

879
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: you even I'm still stuck on the mafia part because

880
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 3: I understand how that can end you put yo, You're

881
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 3: not just putting your life in jeopardy.

882
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,959
Speaker 2: Everybody get close the play for keys?

883
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 3: Now, hey, man, I ain't got man? Who what you

884
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 3: know that there's a there's a certain excuse me, we

885
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 3: speaking of gambling. Now, excuse my lack of knowledge.

886
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: I might be wrong.

887
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 3: The greatest player, the greatest basketball player of all time. Yes,

888
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, segregrated.

889
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: But okay, yeah, he'll big gambling, Yes, yes, he like yes, yes.

890
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 3: Now if now you see where I'm going, I'm trying

891
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 3: not to say it without saying it because you lost

892
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: someone very close to him.

893
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: But everybody know but but the thing is, there are

894
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people that lost because they chood next

895
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: to him and feel they got the gambling as much

896
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: as him. Here the logo, he ain't gotta play no

897
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: more basketball, and he's still gonna get. He gonna get,

898
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: you know, three hundred four hundred million, and he ain't

899
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: the last time Michael Jordan dribble the basketball.

900
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 3: But see, you do not understand what I'm saying. Didn't

901
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: he lose somebody closest to him? Yes, okay, so you

902
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: get where I'm going with it.

903
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, See that's what That's what the reports believe

904
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: that it had something to do with that exactly, which.

905
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 3: Is why I don't understand how Chauncey and Damon and

906
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 3: Terry would even yo, what you part of?

907
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 2: Who gamb no who?

908
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: Now, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, none of that

909
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: information because at the minute, it don't all right, and

910
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: you can't get to me.

911
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: You're going to the next closest thing to me. I

912
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: don't don't want I don't want that.

913
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: So that's you know, and and and and reportedly the

914
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: NBA investigated Terry Rogier and clarity. That's the problem that

915
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: you got yeah. They investigated him last year. Oh Joe,

916
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: we briefly touched on bills and they cleared it. Now

917
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: you see why the NFL. See, that's see, that's why

918
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: you can't do it, oh Joe, because guess what these

919
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: gaming companies they want to be able to bet with

920
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: the NFL at MLB. So they're gonna turn in. Oh yeah, absolutely,

921
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna turn in because hold on, wait a minute,

922
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: he's just a guy, and why are we getting all

923
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: these problems bet coming in on him and he just

924
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: oh no, they'll pull it off.

925
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 3: The board man, please, God damn.

926
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 2: I look.

927
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: In situations like this, oh you gotta just take your medicine,

928
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 1: and and and and and and I just I hope

929
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: it's not true.

930
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: I look, I don't really know. I don't really know.

931
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 3: The FBI does not come and get you until they

932
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 3: have enough evidence to convict you.

933
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: Well, I can hope oat your damn you know, hope

934
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: the people.

935
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 3: In the people in hell hope they can get some

936
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 3: goddamn ice water. Is it coming? Absolutely not.

937
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm hoping, well, you know what, I hope with you.

938
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: I just I just you know, oh ya, I'm just

939
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: saying in a situation like this. You don't think. You

940
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: don't think. Oh ya, you know how we're wired. We

941
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: think we're invincible because think about Ocho. This was twenty

942
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: twenty three when this was going on.

943
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: It's twenty five. Oh you nenver forgot about that?

944
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 3: Oh no, forget about nothing.

945
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: Now yeah you don't.

946
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, you over your grandma and your mama said, Boma.

947
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: My grandma said, bor, i'maa tell your tailor when you

948
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: get home. About two three hours go by. Oh she

949
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: forgot about that. The next thing, you know, she's shutting

950
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: down on you.

951
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 3: Why what.

952
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 2: So bad?

953
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: I just boy, this is this is boy. They're about

954
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: to get They about to get real, real real right straight?

955
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: But that but that No, but that's that's the problem.

956
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: That's why you see these fans when when their team, man,

957
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: what the first thing they say, Man, you messed up

958
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: my parlay.

959
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: You messed up my fantasy.

960
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, but I'm not thinking.

961
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: About your fantasy. I think about it. I lost us

962
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: the game.

963
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were fantasy. They worried about that money.

964
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: That's it.

965
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 3: As messed up.

966
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: And then they they don't pull guild in it.

967
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: There they tell about guil them, dying people out I

968
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: think it was Rachel Niggas they put it out there

969
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: like I'm like, well, damn, Rachel, I hope you got

970
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: some concrete solid ever.

971
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 3: Did Yeah, I think I think Yelle addressed it earlier, earlier, but.

972
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: Yes, for illegal illegal poker, illegal gambling, I think the

973
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: thing is O yoe. And see this is what leads

974
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: but people to believe. See, I told you the NBA

975
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 1: was rigged. I told you this was rigged.

976
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: See yeah.

977
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 3: See hey, listen, you can't say the NBA or the

978
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 3: NFL is rigged when it's small. About a very small percentage,

979
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 3: very small percentage of people get in trouble.

980
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: Like this, very very very Remember you remember that show

981
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: hell Toiney story his Interpreter twenty million.

982
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: And some of that was funneled through resorts world.

983
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: Hey, but hey, that's a that's a different lep.

984
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

985
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: Hey, but I tell you, man, I'll tell you one thing.

986
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 3: My grandma always said. My grandma always told me bro

987
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 3: fool and his money soon part shall soon part ways,

988
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: and that shit there I mean, excuse me, I don't

989
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 3: mean a curse. It is stuck with me through a

990
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 3: lifetime where I understand I can have a little fun.

991
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 3: But I know where draorder lye. I understand there are

992
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: addictions in the world, whether it be alcohol, whether it

993
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 3: be drugs, whether it be gambling, I mean, whether it

994
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 3: be horizontal activity. You know, gambling is one thing I've

995
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: never done. Now I'm enjoying and having some fun with

996
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,479
Speaker 3: it with a two hundred dollars limit only blackjack because

997
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 3: it's just me and a dealer and the people that

998
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 3: sit down with me, they can help me understand the

999
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: game and whether the hit or the state that's it.

1000
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 3: Once I lose that to a dollar.

1001
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: You need to learn how to play yourself. Because they're like,

1002
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: would you like to play? I say, well, I am

1003
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: been to play with my money. If you want to

1004
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: give me some of his house money and let me

1005
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: learn how to play, I've not learned how to play

1006
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: nothing with my money. I'm gonna know what I said,

1007
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: Yes down, I wan't know how to blay, especially if

1008
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: you bet the black jack table. You playing third base, boy,

1009
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: you mess up for everybody hanging. I'm definitely not let

1010
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: you play third base, ye, but oh tell you no. Look,

1011
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: we gamble by everything because see in the league, it's

1012
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,479
Speaker 1: really it's really not about the money. We bet obscure things.

1013
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: Like I said, i'm'na bet you. I'm gonna bet you

1014
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars in pennies. I don't want your money,

1015
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 1: I want your pride. Everybody got money in the league. Yeah,

1016
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: something might not have as much as others. But I

1017
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: want you to go to the bank. I want you

1018
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: to go up to the cash here. Hey, take your

1019
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: debit card if you got one. And when that lady

1020
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: asked you say, what are you gonna do with ten

1021
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in dimes or what do you need a

1022
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: twelve thousand dollars and Susan b anthony.

1023
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: Dollars for you? Tell them I lost the bet to

1024
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 2: Shanna Shark.

1025
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: That's what I want. I want you to blurt that out.

1026
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: It ain't about to I can eat that. I don't

1027
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: check up about no five thousand dollars. I want you

1028
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: to take your ass to the bank and tell that

1029
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: cash here that you gotta get ten thousand dollars in dimes. Yeah,

1030
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: and y'all don't know if y'all notice, but y'all, y'all

1031
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: don't know how heavy coins are when you're getting that

1032
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: amount of money. Yeah, man, come on, shrump man hair's too.

1033
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: I said, I don't want it. The bet was two

1034
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: hundred dollars in quarters. It wasn't no two hundred dollars

1035
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: in bills, So take your ass to the bank. So

1036
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: I ain't taking it, I said, I don't know what

1037
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: that is. I do the money out of my locker.

1038
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: I don't want that. Yeah, quarters, Susan b Anthtery. I

1039
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: want Susan be Anthony. I want them sack of your wheels. Hey,

1040
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: you know what I tell you? What give me a

1041
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a sack at your wheel them gold them

1042
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: gold dollar quarter.

1043
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 2: That's what I want.

1044
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: Man up y'all. Man, you know I can't find I

1045
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: don't know what you can find. Go on a scavenger hunt,

1046
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: Marco Polo. So that's the bad. This is, this is,

1047
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: this is dominated and gush, oh Joe is not gonna

1048
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: quiet down anytime soon.

1049
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: No, this happna, absolutely not.

1050
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 3: It's not because if you have to understand, as the

1051
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 3: headlines already hit today, right, The're gonna give you pieces

1052
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 3: of the story bit by bit, and then this is honestly,

1053
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: more people are gonna come out, for sure, more people

1054
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: are gonna come out. This is just this is the cornerstone,

1055
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: this is the top piece. This is just to grab

1056
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 3: your attention. Now we're gonna give you a little bit,

1057
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 3: little by little. Damn basketball season just started. Where they

1058
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: decide to wait on what opening.

1059
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 2: Night, when you're gonna get the most attention Joe opening night, Then.

1060
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 3: They think they slick all this is very strategic on

1061
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 3: their part as well. Yeah, I can't believe in the mob.

1062
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 3: I'm still hey, I'm still fascinated by that man's one mistake.

1063
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 3: I done lost a million dollars because you told me

1064
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 3: so and so is playing the head plate plate. Well,

1065
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 3: you need to give me my money back. Man.

1066
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: I had a good friend of mine where I used

1067
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: to come out here, used to come down to the

1068
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: Freemont which is the old strip.

1069
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 2: Everything is on the new strip.

1070
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: Now, but everything used to be uh benions and golden

1071
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: nuggets all that's downstown on Fremont. Yeah, and uh to

1072
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: hear those stories talk, I think it's uh. I think

1073
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: it was his uncle Jack. One of them got killed.

1074
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: He had had hordes of silver and gold and cash

1075
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: buried in the desert. And I may or may not

1076
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 1: have something. I would move off