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Speaker 1: What a twenty twenty five it has been.

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Speaker 2: We've ranked dudes, we've scored games, we've hosted plenty of legends,

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Speaker 2: and we've.

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Speaker 3: Had a whole lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: We had a big year.

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Speaker 2: What about Games with Names? What were your favorite episodes

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Speaker 2: from this year?

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Speaker 1: So many good ones. Loved having Big v on.

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Speaker 4: Dan Soder had me cracking up talking about living in

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Speaker 4: the Bay when he didn't live in the Bay. Genie Buss,

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Speaker 4: we had the Queen of La thanks to all of

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Speaker 4: our awesome guests. Loved getting to have light Slate Ninko,

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Speaker 4: Will Campbell. We had Will Campbell on all of those

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Speaker 4: Dudes too.

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Speaker 2: Remember to like and subscribe to both Dudes on Dudes

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Speaker 4: Let's look back to some of the best moments from

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Speaker 4: the Nuthouse in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Did you see that recent one that Lawrence Taylor drove

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Speaker 5: by Giant Stadium.

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Speaker 6: You saw the lights on him.

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Speaker 5: And he's like, oh fuck, I have a game, yeah,

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Speaker 5: and showed up in the first quarter.

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Speaker 1: He showed up late.

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Speaker 4: They benched him for a series and then he went

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Speaker 4: out and I think he had like seven Sacks.

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Speaker 6: All right, I'm gonna tell a story.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I don't feel like I'm talking out out of

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Speaker 5: school here, because this is this is uh, this is

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Speaker 5: a funny story. So I'm doing inside the NFL. Phil

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Speaker 5: Simms is on the show and Lawrence Taylor is coming in.

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Speaker 5: So it's Phil, Chris Collinsworth, Lawrence Taylor, and me. Right,

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Speaker 5: I mean one of those classic like what in the

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 5: So Lawrence hasn't showed up yet, so Phil tells me

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Speaker 5: a story. I can't believe Lawrence Taylor is going to

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Speaker 5: be here. I mean, that guy was. He's just like

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Speaker 5: he literally changed the game, and I was just going

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Speaker 5: on and on about him. He goes, you know what's

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Speaker 5: funny about that guy? He goes, he didn't even know

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Speaker 5: the names of the teams in the leagues. I go,

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Speaker 5: get the fuck out of here. He goes, yeah, he goes.

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Speaker 5: One time, he goes, we were we won some game.

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Speaker 5: They were on the road, and they're on the team playing.

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Speaker 5: They're all hyped and Lawrence is psyched, and Phil goes, yeah,

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Speaker 5: hey man, you know the Redskins lose, then we're gonna

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Speaker 5: be in first place in our division. And Lawrence goes, uh,

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Speaker 5: oh yeah, he goes he goes, who's in our division?

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Speaker 5: And Phil goes, you don't know who's in our division?

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Speaker 5: And he goes, man, I don't give a shit, right,

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Speaker 5: And I'm thinking, like that is the genius that held him.

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Speaker 5: Let's say, I don't need extra information in my head.

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Speaker 5: You have a different uniform than me, I'm gonna ruin

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Speaker 5: your day. So I thought it was a hilarious story.

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Speaker 5: But as always, you know, you think maybe you put

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Speaker 5: a little mustard on it or whatever. Ten minutes later,

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Speaker 5: Lawrence Taylor comes walking in. Him and Phil both just

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Speaker 5: start laughing, which was great. They just saw each other.

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Speaker 5: They start laughing. They hugged and everything. You just know

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Speaker 5: all the shit that they did back then. Who knows, right,

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Speaker 5: So Lawrence sits down and he starts telling stories. Right,

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Speaker 5: They just start telling things, and in the middle of

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Speaker 5: one story goes he goes, we were down in down.

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Speaker 6: In New Orleans.

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Speaker 5: Then we were playing the uh And he goes, Phil,

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Speaker 6: And he goes to Saints. He goes, you're playing the Saints.

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Speaker 6: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: And then fat sports writers would would would say that,

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Speaker 5: you know, they say that he wasn't smart, he was

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Speaker 5: blah blah. It's like that's like some Einstein shit. I'm

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Speaker 5: wearing the same shit every day, so my brain doesn't

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Speaker 5: I only need to worry about Like you know, you

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Speaker 5: hear all those stories how he would sleep through meetings

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Speaker 6: The guy is like a fucking genius. Genius.

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Speaker 5: But the fact that he didn't even know, like the

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Speaker 5: he's the most alpha dominating player that I ever saw.

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Speaker 5: But you know why he seems like he fell out

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Speaker 6: He came and it looked like he was an alien.

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Speaker 5: It was because unfortunately, Hollywood Henderson had like substance abuse

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Speaker 5: greatest play another underrated play nineteen seventy six, the Steelers

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Speaker 5: their kick in nineteen seventy six like that, that just

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Speaker 5: him up for the game. And it's a really hard

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Speaker 5: It was a reverse on the on the kickoff, and

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Speaker 4: Man, how does it feel to be that old to

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Speaker 5: I watched it on YouTube. The first one I watched

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Speaker 5: You know some OJ Simpson was playing in like the

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Speaker 5: early seventi and my, yeah, my dad's screaming at the

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Speaker 6: My grandfather going, uh, you know, he's the old days.

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Speaker 5: He's like packing a pipe to smoke it inside.

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Speaker 1: He Sherlock Holmes, fucking.

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Speaker 6: No, old men smoked pipe. And I gotta be honest

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Speaker 5: Both my grandfathers smoked pipes, And to this day, if

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so that was probably the first one.

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Speaker 5: But I've also like gone back and like I've watched

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Speaker 5: and in the NFL never gave him his due. Was

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Speaker 5: This is like the late sixties, and he goes in

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Speaker 5: It wasn't just standing there throwing like that. He was

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, sounds like the sixties.

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Speaker 5: Well this is what sixties. It sounded like right through

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I guess, so that's.

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Speaker 5: What like, this is like all of this shit that

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Speaker 5: I was so fucked up as I can remember all

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Speaker 5: then I also went back and I was fascinated, like

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Speaker 5: I would say as a fan that the fan version

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Speaker 5: and I think that they are envious of the UFC

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Speaker 5: then go global. But there's something about soccer, football, whatever,

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Speaker 5: which I find, uh like really fascinating. Not fighting, because fighting,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's like I remember Joe Rogan telling this

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Speaker 6: And it was sort of like this really.

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Speaker 5: True, yeah, easy way of explaining how their thing got

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Speaker 1: It because all you need is a ball.

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Speaker 6: Say that about hoop, I guess you need you need

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Speaker 1: Basketball is also very global. Yeah, okay, you know what

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Speaker 8: About like how football is kind of change and involved

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Speaker 8: and sold it sold for offense is a conversation we

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Speaker 8: we go watch eighty five game, we watch a game

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you don't even want to hear my conspiration theory.

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Speaker 5: Like my conspiracy theory right now is is the NFL

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Speaker 5: is in a bad place because they only have one

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Speaker 1: Marino quarterback, So Mahomes.

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Speaker 5: Mahomes is the guy that sells the tickets. I'm not

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Speaker 5: saying this, not like great talent at that position, but

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Speaker 6: So it's sort of their own.

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Speaker 5: The only storyline they have right now is Canny three Peete.

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Speaker 5: So that's why, like the ridiculous that guy took his

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Speaker 6: The rep says, put it back on.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's just like he's like, you realize this

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Speaker 5: is televised, right, Like what are we doing here?

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Speaker 1: So you know that's a penalty supposed to be a penalty.

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Speaker 1: Take your helmet off. It's fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Do you like New England so far?

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Speaker 9: It's good. I've been getting used to it. I'm a

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Speaker 9: justin I was telling Julian before I, you know, got

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Speaker 9: you could say what some people would call the culture

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Speaker 4: And North End. Wait, you like all the trees. See,

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Speaker 2: Well, well, I understand, Joe, because people take a lot

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Speaker 1: That's what it is.

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Speaker 9: It's the it's the old ladies with the road rage.

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Speaker 4: You know, they're assholes, but because that's just what they're

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Speaker 10: But once they do, sky's a limit man. And honestly,

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Speaker 1: Amazing people.

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Speaker 4: Now, will you know Matt Light's like best friends with

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Speaker 4: your coach. You have any questions about braves that you

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Speaker 4: you have prepared to ask that you may need from Matt? I,

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Speaker 4: oh no, give me a second to think.

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Speaker 1: I'm you think about that. Have you been to Red

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Speaker 7: I have?

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Speaker 9: He actually took us, took all the rookies to a

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Speaker 9: game that was pretty cool. I'm really not like a

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Speaker 1: Eating a dog, not into eating hot dogs.

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Speaker 9: No hot dogs, nah, but some nachos or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Would you do batting practice if they asked you to.

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Speaker 9: I would do that for sure.

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Speaker 4: I got to have your thoughts on the break the

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Speaker 4: statue any yeah, critiques you, What are your thoughts on?

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Speaker 3: What would you change? Hey, if you could change something

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Speaker 10: I just saw it for the first time last week

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Speaker 10: I didn't get right up on it. But before we

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Speaker 10: little rewind. Did you get like, was there a problem

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Speaker 10: Why don't you like hot dogs?

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Speaker 10: You've never liked the hot dog?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? I think my mom, like whenever I was like

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Speaker 9: and I just like, I don't really want to eat.

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Speaker 10: Okay, so you would eat like because I brought I

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Speaker 10: I don't like to judge young man, but I was

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Speaker 1: I was like, sure.

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Speaker 10: Matt light producers all going to tell you that, yeah,

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Speaker 10: they're good, but they are They're all natural. They are

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Speaker 10: The double hand, although we used to call that the

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Speaker 1: Think he needs a little squirrel next to him. That's

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Speaker 10: I was thinking, like Logan and I and Coping, since

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Speaker 1: I'll still be there. How's camping going?

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Speaker 3: It's been good.

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Speaker 1: First camp, First NFL camp.

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Speaker 9: It's a lot different. It's a lot longer than college.

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Speaker 9: Like college, you know, it's really only like two weeks

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Speaker 9: It's a lot different, uh in terms of like players

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Speaker 2: What's been the biggest adjustment from college to pro ball.

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Speaker 9: I think it's just like the depth of the guys.

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Speaker 9: So I'd say that's the biggest thing. There's really not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the truth.

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Speaker 7: Matt.

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Speaker 2: You know you played how many seasons again, eleven? Do

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Speaker 10: Man, Well, I can say my Week one won't be

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Speaker 10: he's like, good, we're gonna put you back at left

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Speaker 10: playing in Cincinnati and my family like they literally there

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Speaker 10: And I'm like, okay, just keep yourself ready. Jesus walked

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Speaker 3: So did you start?

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Speaker 1: I didn't start to put you in the game.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, after I've been sitting cold as a duck on

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Speaker 10: so you're gonna be way better.

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Speaker 1: What made his You're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna you're in a way better situation.

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Speaker 2: Well, because you don't want to be sitting there and

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Speaker 2: But what made Bill make that decision? Like all right,

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Speaker 2: Whoever was the guy that was there right then? Was

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Speaker 10: I think he just wanted to see you know how

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Speaker 10: I mean he could have you know how Bill is

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Speaker 10: like once you make a mistake.

443
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Speaker 2: He plays games with you to make sure you don't

444
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Speaker 2: make that mistake again.

445
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Speaker 10: That's a fact, and he was sending a clear message.

446
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Speaker 11: Now.

447
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Speaker 10: I will say that I was only late to two

448
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Speaker 10: meetings in my life. Both of them were the night

449
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Speaker 10: before games. And fast forward a few weeks about midway

450
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Speaker 10: through the season my rookie year, I missed another team

451
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Speaker 10: meeting the night before the game, but this time I

452
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 10: was with the only other two left tackles or the

453
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,640
Speaker 10: only other tackles on the team, so they couldn't He

454
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 10: was just like kind of forced to let us play.

455
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Speaker 7: I get into basketball really.

456
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 12: Fully, Like nineteen seventy nine, Lakers get Magic, nineteen eighty

457
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 12: win the championship. So we're the tripping eighty one lucky

458
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 12: shot by the Rockets win the championship. In eighty two,

459
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 12: eighty three, lose the championship because a few of our

460
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,920
Speaker 12: players was hurt. Lost to the Sixers. So now we're

461
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Speaker 12: about to play the Celtics. My brother got this sick

462
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Speaker 12: ass look on his face. I'm like, why you look

463
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 12: like that?

464
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Speaker 1: Your brother nine years got a lot of wisdom with.

465
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Speaker 7: You, said, man, we can't beat them.

466
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Speaker 12: I was like, what are you out your rabbid ass mine?

467
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 12: We got Magic Johnson and Kareem. We're gonna beat the

468
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:10,160
Speaker 12: ship out these punks, he said, Man, I sat through

469
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 12: a lot of these I said, oh, he just he

470
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Speaker 12: remember he remember Lake is always losing to the Celtics,

471
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Speaker 12: and so we're getting.

472
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Speaker 7: This game and they fucking lose. They lost, They lost

473
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Speaker 7: that shit.

474
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Speaker 12: I was just this was the worst Finals that I

475
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Speaker 12: ever felt, was this loss right here in eighty four.

476
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Speaker 1: But then you can get you jump in.

477
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Speaker 7: But next year they won.

478
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Speaker 12: Next year they won, But it ain't next year. Right here,

479
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Speaker 12: this is the first time we play in my kind

480
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Speaker 12: of in my lifetime, so to speak. And it's the

481
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 12: same old fucking song. You know, it's like Jerry West

482
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Speaker 12: and Elgin Baylor all over again.

483
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, you guys won a couple of

484
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Speaker 4: years before, not against the Celtics.

485
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Speaker 7: It was it was psychological.

486
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Speaker 1: That is psychological warfare.

487
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Speaker 7: It was it was, it was it was the worst.

488
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Speaker 12: And it's seven games, because you know, you're right there,

489
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 12: I had one game better than that.

490
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Speaker 4: So when did older brother come in and tell you

491
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Speaker 4: that before the series? Once, once they knew it was

492
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Speaker 4: the Lakers versus the Celtics, he said right away he knew,

493
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 4: just had that look on his face.

494
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Speaker 1: And he knew that ruined. Did you were you thinking

495
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Speaker 1: about that the whole I.

496
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Speaker 12: Was thinking, a't know what he was talking about. I

497
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Speaker 12: thought he was gonna beat him. And then old brother

498
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Speaker 12: was it was just.

499
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Speaker 7: Like, yeah, he was right.

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Speaker 1: Olympics held in Los Angeles, You remember that.

501
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Speaker 7: I remember that.

502
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Speaker 1: Did you go to the events?

503
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Speaker 7: Nothing? I was broke.

504
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I didn't go to ship. I would watching it

505
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Speaker 12: on TV. I don't really care. And you know, I

506
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 12: was in the hip hop, like hip hop was more

507
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Speaker 12: important than anything. So I was in confident all the time.

508
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Speaker 12: That's your brother right here, that's my brother. Is that

509
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 12: HIMJJ Man? He got ye, he got he got the

510
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Speaker 12: he knows. He said a couple of things that we've

511
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Speaker 12: already said, Michael Michael. Jordan gets drafted third overall mariy

512
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Speaker 12: Lemue number one in hockey.

513
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Speaker 1: What do you year for sports? Nineteen eighty four?

514
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Speaker 7: This is this was an incredible year for light sports

515
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Speaker 7: for sure.

516
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Speaker 1: Now what do you remember Jordan when you were a kid?

517
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Speaker 7: Amazing, Like you remember when he hit that shot?

518
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Speaker 12: You know he hit the shot North Carolina, North Carolina

519
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 12: because we actually watching James Worthy that game. James Worthy

520
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 12: was actually the man, not Jordan, freshman. Worthy was a

521
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Speaker 12: senior and Jordan was a freshman. So we like, you know,

522
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Speaker 12: Worthy is the man. And it's a trip because after

523
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 12: the game, we get Worthy and uh Lakers get Worthy

524
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Speaker 12: and you know Jordan, he just goes on this fucking

525
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Speaker 12: tear like not his It doesn't seem like after he

526
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Speaker 12: won the championship his first year, he was just kind

527
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Speaker 12: of dominant, but they didn't win the championship. But when

528
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Speaker 12: he when he got out and was like doing the

529
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Speaker 12: Olympic trials. He was just killing ship, like, you know,

530
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Speaker 12: him being drafted third was it.

531
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Speaker 7: Was ridiculous to me. Yeah, it was like he was

532
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Speaker 7: killing shit.

533
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Speaker 1: I know.

534
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Speaker 12: They was all after the seven footers by then and

535
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Speaker 12: who went first? Elijah, I understand that. I understood saying

536
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Speaker 12: Perkins too. You know, he big coming off of n

537
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Speaker 12: c A championship run.

538
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Speaker 4: You ever get to meet my MJ. Yeah, like like

539
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Speaker 4: early in early in the in the world when you

540
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Speaker 4: guys were jumping in hip hop and ship like, he's

541
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Speaker 4: kind of like the hip hop of fucking basketball.

542
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Speaker 12: Yeah, if you think about it, I met him, you know,

543
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 12: probably like ninety seven.

544
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Speaker 13: Yeah, at a at a Nike It was a Nike

545
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Speaker 13: Town event on Wiltshire and he was in there and

546
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Speaker 13: I said, what's up.

547
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Speaker 7: M J said what's up?

548
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Speaker 12: He said, uh, you know, I said, I told people

549
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Speaker 12: Friday was my favorite movie and that shit got me

550
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 12: in trouble. I get you in trouble. You know all

551
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 12: the weed y'all smoking in that damn movie. I was

552
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 12: like this shit. Fuddy said shit funny. I remember he

553
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 12: s took my hand and shit felt like babyfoot or something.

554
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Speaker 12: It was put off as fuck, like like you ain't

555
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 12: never did it inch of work in your goddamn like

556
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 12: my daddy hands felt like she's grater. Your fucking hands

557
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Speaker 12: feel like a baby white.

558
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Speaker 1: Did you say anything to do?

559
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Speaker 14: Nah?

560
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Speaker 7: I just just clocked it. You know, you's six six,

561
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Speaker 7: so this ship.

562
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Speaker 12: Was big and it just felt like a pillow grabbed

563
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 12: my hand. I said, damn, he did nothing but bounce

564
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 12: of basketball your whole fucking life.

565
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Speaker 7: D thought to myself. I don't know why, but I

566
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Speaker 7: just thought.

567
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Speaker 1: That MJ got soft hands.

568
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Speaker 7: We got the can shoot. That motherfucker's so good. You

569
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 7: got them soft palls.

570
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Speaker 4: Dan probably like a yes, Dan, sweet, who is the

571
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Speaker 4: first cool athlete you met when you were coming up?

572
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 7: H Muhammad Ali? Yeah?

573
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Speaker 12: And we was years that man, this had to be

574
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Speaker 12: eighty eighty seven. We uh, it's a trip. We're coming

575
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Speaker 12: out of this place called Macola where we used to

576
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Speaker 12: get our records pressed though because we was independence and ruthless.

577
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 7: We would go right there on Hollywood.

578
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Speaker 12: It was Santa Monica, Sata Monica, and Vine all around there,

579
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 12: and we've been there. We're just walking out, walking out

580
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 12: of there and ship and we saw fucking Muhammad Ali

581
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 12: crossing the street by itself.

582
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 7: What's up. Man, it's like, how y'all doing?

583
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 12: You know, we make we make records and ship and

584
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 12: he's doing positive things.

585
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 7: Man, you know, boom boom boom, and he had to

586
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 7: keep it moving.

587
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 12: I was like, damn this chant, like this is the

588
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 12: greatest of all time right here.

589
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 7: Yeah.

590
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 12: He bigger than myself too. He was a big dude,

591
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 12: like by himself, by itself.

592
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: Laura, did he have aura?

593
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 7: He had a or? Yeah, he had an or to him.

594
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: Charming huh probably charming as fuck.

595
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, it was all love. It was like

596
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 12: seeing one of your uncles and ship, you know what

597
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 12: I mean.

598
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 7: It was just.

599
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 12: All it was. He was as great as you would

600
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 12: think he would be to a stranger.

601
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Speaker 14: You know.

602
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 12: Hell yeah, to a couple of strangers because we was

603
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 12: all you know what I mean, we was groupie the

604
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 12: fuck out.

605
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 14: You know.

606
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 7: It was Nick.

607
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 12: It's the chance lucky we let him leave and shit,

608
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 12: he's like man asking him all kind of questions and ship.

609
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 12: You guys are young too, yeah, we you know, sixteen

610
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 12: seventeen eighteen.

611
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: And he's the goat.

612
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 7: He the man. Yeah.

613
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Speaker 4: Can you explain to me the relationship between hip hop

614
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 4: and sports?

615
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 3: Oh?

616
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 7: Man? Hip hop like sports.

617
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 12: Without music, it's just a game. That's how I can

618
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 12: explain it. The music makes it all magical.

619
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Speaker 7: You know.

620
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Speaker 12: Even seeing y'all highlights with the music, it feels like it's, uh,

621
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 12: you know, kind of in concert with each other. You know,

622
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 12: it's a movie. Yeah, it's it's it's the soundtrack of

623
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 12: the you know, other than you guys breathing and grunting

624
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 12: and running and you know, and and all the sounds

625
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 12: of the game. But to add that music to it,

626
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 12: it turns in like into portry in motion.

627
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 7: Uh.

628
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 4: So, I think it's inspirational too. It is, you know,

629
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 4: motiv motivation. Everyone's got a pregame list. Yeah, you know

630
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 4: what I mean, everyone's got something that helps them focused.

631
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 12: And somebody playing like some pregame soft ship. You're looking

632
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 12: at them crazy, like, man, that's what you get hyped

633
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 12: up on. You know what I mean, Shawley, you know

634
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 12: what I'm saying. So you want to you want to

635
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 12: hear that rough ship?

636
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 7: You ready to go?

637
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: I would.

638
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 4: So this is how I used to do it. My

639
00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 4: pregame mix used to be real hard, real high energy. Yeah,

640
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 4: But as I got older, I got into movie music,

641
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 4: like instrumentals. Yeah, so I could focus and visualize what

642
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 4: I was going to do on the field. So I

643
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 4: listened to some fucking Hollms Zimmer fucking Inception fucking soundtrack

644
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: and shit, and like put myself like I was like

645
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 4: in it.

646
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,239
Speaker 7: Feel you you know what I mean.

647
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 12: That's that's smart because that is situational music.

648
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 4: Because sometimes I can get too involved in the lyric

649
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 4: and so then I'm thinking about the lyric, but I

650
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 4: want to make my own lyric.

651
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 12: And you can also burn out too too quick, like

652
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 12: get too hyped, and you know you did by the

653
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 12: third quarter, Like it's not a sprint. You're ready to

654
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 12: stop playing football.

655
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 7: You know.

656
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 12: It's like, you know, had your feel of the day.

657
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 12: You want to well make sure you're not too giving

658
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 12: up too much energy before the game went.

659
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: What was the first time you met Tom?

660
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: The first time I met Tom was actually what was

661
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: pretty wild when I was at the University of Arizona.

662
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: You know, I was doing my interview. I had a

663
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: couple of touchdowns that game. I was showing off my

664
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: touchdown celebrations and then.

665
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: The lady interviewing me.

666
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: She's like, who do you see being your quarterback in

667
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: the NFL? And obviously, right, on the spot, I go,

668
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: Tom Brady would be the best quarterback to have in

669
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: the NFL, and especially a great fit for me. And

670
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: that was just the answer, you know. And then I

671
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: did my touchdown dances and all that, and then what happens.

672
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: I get drafted to the Patriots and Tom Brady becomes

673
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: my quarterback in the NFL. It was like I manifested

674
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: it when I was in college. I manifested a lot

675
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: of things. And if you ask Tom, Tom's probably really

676
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: big into manifesting it manifest He manifested all his Super

677
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: Bowls because right after he won a Super Bowl, he

678
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: would already have a clock coming down to the next next,

679
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: So he was manifesting like crazy. You just learned so

680
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: much knowledge from him, and he's done so many things

681
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: right to be able to get to, uh you know,

682
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: nature of where he is now. It wasn't like he

683
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: just had the athletic ability. He showed up. He did

684
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: everything right and he put the time in that You

685
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: can never argue against.

686
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: Him, can't.

687
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: You can't be So let's get let's get back to

688
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: what was I talking about again?

689
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just got, Yeah, I got.

690
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: The first time I met him It was in the

691
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: training room. I was getting my ankles taped and he

692
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: walked in. So I was there already for the rookie camps,

693
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: the rookie practices, and he just walks up to me.

694
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: He goes, hey, Rob, I'm Tom Brady. And I was like,

695
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: oh wow, this guy already knows my name. I mean,

696
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: that's also what makes him so great as well, is

697
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: that he already knows all the rookies names, all the

698
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: guys that were drafted, what rounds they were drafted in,

699
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: what type of player they already were, because he wants

700
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: to know, you know, their athletic ability, you know what

701
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: type of guy they are, so he can understand them

702
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: so he can be on the same page as that

703
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: so he can get the best out of them as well,

704
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: like you said, and he could have that connections to

705
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: help win games, so he can be on the same

706
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: you know, wavelength. That's so he already knew my name,

707
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: came up to me, and I just thought it was

708
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: the coolest thing. Man.

709
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: I just said, hey, man, nice to meet you. It

710
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: was just super quick.

711
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: He left. What did you think in your head?

712
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: And Tom Brady knew my name And that was the

713
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: greatest honor to shake his hand while getting my ankles taped.

714
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 4: And then he goes wins four super Bowls with them.

715
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 4: That's crazy. I had a similar story.

716
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was it like when you met him? What

717
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: was that story?

718
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 4: I was going from, like you said, we were already

719
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 4: in there. When you're a rookie, you get in there before.

720
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 4: Back in our day, you get in there before the

721
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 4: vets reported, and so you'd be there for like three weeks,

722
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: did rookie camp and learning installations of everything. And so

723
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 4: I had a big book. We all had these books.

724
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: It was like a five inch Remember those old dole binders.

725
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 4: Before we had iPads, we used to have big old binders.

726
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: I didn't like carrying them around. I left mine in

727
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: my locker when I went home. Yeah, even though you

728
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: were to bring it home to study, I was like,

729
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: I ain't carrying that binder.

730
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: I used to carry it, You did I do? I

731
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: was just trying to make.

732
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: So I'm over here getting five minutes before the special

733
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 4: Teams meeting. It's true, and I'm running through and the

734
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 4: vets came in. And I saw the vets coming because

735
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 4: I saw wel in the in the cafeteria didn't say

736
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 4: a word to me.

737
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: I was, but I wanted to big time a little bit.

738
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: I had a leather jacket and he looks cool.

739
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: He looks like when you guys big time each other,

740
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: it's entertainment for me.

741
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 4: All right back the time though, And so I knew

742
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 4: they were in but I was going to my meeting

743
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 4: and he walks through the door, you know, the entrance

744
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 4: of the locker room from the hall. He walks in

745
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: there and he goes, I like, look at him. I

746
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 4: dropped my book. I'm like, oh.

747
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: Shit, this is taller than I thought. And he goes, hey,

748
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm Tom. I go Jules.

749
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 4: He goes, I know we have the same agent. Dragon's

750
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 4: my agent too, or something something like that. And I

751
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 4: was like, nice to meet you, and you could I

752
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 4: felt the same way you felt, like, damn, he knew

753
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 4: my name. That's fucking crazy. But he knew that he

754
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 4: knew everyone's name, and he made everyone feel special and

755
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 4: that that was part of his leadership skill, you know,

756
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 4: like what made him such an unbelievable leader, from the

757
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 4: meal ladies to you know, the people in the equipment room,

758
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 4: the training staff, like it didn't matter what was going on,

759
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: how the day went. He was always a pretty cool

760
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 4: dude to everyone, and everyone was always watching him, you

761
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And that's when you're the quarterback

762
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 4: of the team, Everyone no matter what is going on

763
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 4: in your life, is watching that person and to see

764
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 4: how they react to everything, the success, the failure. Your

765
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 4: eyes go to that guy, you know, And he was

766
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 4: the perfect guy for us, especially when we were young

767
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 4: knuckleheads to look at, like, all right, this is how

768
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 4: you have to do. I tell the story because you

769
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 4: know everything that's going on Randy Moss. Our thoughts and

770
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 4: prayers are with him him. But I always tell the

771
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 4: story that he used to call you fucking coach the

772
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 4: day you came in and we had to we had

773
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 4: to announce our names in front of the whole team.

774
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: Do you remember that?

775
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 11: Yeah?

776
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 15: Oh I remember. Can you tell me explain that? So

777
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 15: I get drafted by the Patriots. It's two thousand and nine,

778
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 15: Randy's coming off like this unbelievable tires. Yeah, he's been

779
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 15: crushing it, and you know it's it's a little bit

780
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 15: before the veterans start coming around the building. But when

781
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 15: when we have OTAs, we have the mini camps and

782
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 15: things like that, you know, Randy's in the locker room,

783
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 15: and I remember it. It came in waves, and I'm

784
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 15: sure you felt the same way. It's like, oh my god,

785
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 15: that's Tom Brady. Yeah, it's like, oh my god, that's

786
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 15: Randy Moss. Like you're playing with these guys now. But slowly,

787
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 15: but surely, it starts to feel more normal. You know,

788
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 15: you start to realize, ah, these are just my buddies.

789
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 15: We're playing football. It's all the same as it was

790
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 15: in college or high school. But there was this weird thing.

791
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 15: He gave me this nickname, and it happened immediately. I

792
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 15: have no idea why, because we barely spoke to each

793
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 15: other outside of passing by each other in the hallway

794
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 15: or outside the meeting rooms.

795
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: Are on the.

796
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 15: Football field, you know, we're on our way to the

797
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 15: football field. You'd be like, hey, what's up, coach? He

798
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 15: called me coach, So Randy would call me coach everywhere,

799
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 15: you know, we'd be waiting and like he's like, oh yeah, coach, Yeah,

800
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 15: I know you're gonna get on this pot Roads because

801
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 15: you look like Pot Roads coach, and you big fat fucker.

802
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: I bet you.

803
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 15: Oh, you're gonna have two pieces of pot Roads. Yeah,

804
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 15: I bet you bet. You know what hap three hop three?

805
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 15: You know, you know Randy with the West Virginia. And

806
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 15: so I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm like maybe like

807
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 15: maybe it's like I'm in man, Like he gave me

808
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 15: a nickname. Like I'm telling people from back home, like

809
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 15: Randy Mosk gave me a nickname. He really likes me.

810
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 4: That's what I'm telling you that. It was so cool

811
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 4: that he had a fucking nickname. He was so funny

812
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 4: he had a nickname.

813
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

814
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 15: Like immediately I was like, this is the best. And

815
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 15: then we was its standard. It's customary Bill Belichick. At

816
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 15: one point or another in the offseason, he has all

817
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 15: the rookie is get in front of the room and

818
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 15: say their name, who they are, whatever it was. And

819
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 15: so I get up there and I can't remember if

820
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 15: it was in the meeting or immediately after, but Randy

821
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 15: Moss pulls me aside and he goes, motherfucker, you a player.

822
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: He goes, you you've been a player this whole time.

823
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: I think he was from the whole tame you gray

824
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: haired bitch. I thought you was a coach. He was like,

825
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: you a player?

826
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 15: Oh hell no, Bill DoD we waste a draft pick

827
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 15: on this motherfucker?

828
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

829
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 7: This great?

830
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 16: He was gonna go out there and break a hip.

831
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 16: God damn Bill, And I'm just like, oh my god,

832
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 16: that was not a nickname. It was not a nickname.

833
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 16: He thought it was a fucking coach. He thought he

834
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 16: was a coach. How unbelievably embarrassing. I mean I told everybody.

835
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 16: I was like, yeah, Randy really likes me. It's going

836
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 16: pretty well.

837
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 7: Gang.

838
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Now, how does Dante Scarnakio have you and

839
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 4: Matt Light in a meeting? And how did just can

840
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 4: you explain the dynamic in a in a quiet logan? Mankins, Yeah,

841
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 4: I want to hear how it was from your rookie perspective.

842
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 15: So I walk into the room and Matt Light is

843
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 15: a Pro Bowl offensive tackle. I mean just he was

844
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 15: like Batman Like, you know, you'd be like, gosh, you know,

845
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 15: how are you gonna they gotta change this light bulb

846
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 15: and all of a sudden, you take something off the

847
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 15: bat belt. They'd be like, and you'd like, unscrew the

848
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 15: light bulb. Andy'd be like, you know what would be funny?

849
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 15: You know, it would be funny if we replace it

850
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 15: with a firecracker this way when they walk in and

851
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 15: smoked it chet. You know, he always had like a

852
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 15: prank you want to play. I'm just like, Matt, what

853
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 15: the fuck? But he always had all these toys and

854
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 15: these gadgets and these things, and he always had ideas.

855
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 15: He's a big idea guy. The idea guy love being

856
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 15: around people like that. So Matt's in the room. You

857
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 15: have Logan Mankins, who's this Central Valley California shit kicker

858
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 15: farmer who is just roughing dudes up on the regular.

859
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 15: Literally could grab like a three hundred pound defensive time,

860
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 15: up end him, stick him in a trash can kick

861
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 15: it over down a hill like it's nothing to him.

862
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 15: He had the strongest goddamn hands, huge I've ever shaken in.

863
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: My entire life. He was wrapped around your wrists. Dude.

864
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 15: Yeah, you shake his hand, you're getting an album. Yeah,

865
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 15: it is ridiculous. So Logan's there. He's a pro bowler

866
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 15: Hall of Fame. He better be in the Hall of

867
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 15: Fame one day. He's incredible. Steve Neil, Steve Neil wrestler, wrestler.

868
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 15: They found him. He was like a freestyle world champion, wrestler.

869
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 15: And then I think it was Philly's practice Philly signed

870
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 15: him first, he was on practice squad, got cut, signed

871
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 15: by the Patriots or whatever. But he ends up working

872
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 15: his way to starting offensive linemen in the league. Played

873
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 15: ten years, eleven years, whatever it was, won three Super Bowls,

874
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 15: like incredible human being, like the nicest guy you ever met.

875
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 1: Loved four locos loved him, dude.

876
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 15: And did you ever go on a taco run with

877
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,959
Speaker 15: the four locos with Steve a little place in paw Tucket, Yeah.

878
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 14: Dude, I can't, dude.

879
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 15: It was that place actually served great taco mobile home,

880
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 15: so Steve.

881
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: Was there in that room. Oh, Dan Copen, Cope, Cope,

882
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: the best.

883
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 15: Dan Copen I never without a dip in his lip

884
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 15: and uh, and was just so snarky and he had

885
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 15: this nasally voice and be.

886
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 17: Like fucking Ornberger class clown over here, who wen't see

887
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 17: if he makes it kind of guy. But I love Dan.

888
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 17: I learned a lot from Dan. Like Dan was the

889
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 17: type of guy.

890
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 15: Who would like bully a bully a bullya and then

891
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 15: he would teach you like the lesson you needed.

892
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: It would like.

893
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 15: Unlock something in your brain. You'd be like, holy shit,

894
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 15: that's how you see this? You know whatever? It is

895
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 15: a line call, an adjustment on a play. He was

896
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 15: just a brilliant dude. And then I'm trying to think

897
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 15: if you remember Donald, Oh Donald, are you around with Donald?

898
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 7: Yeah?

899
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 15: Well we crossed Donald Thomas for like only an off

900
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 15: season because they.

901
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: Put a lot. Matt put a real duck in his

902
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: locker after practice. Oh didn't he do this for like

903
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: a year?

904
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 7: Yes?

905
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: And he was. He had ducks show up in different

906
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 1: parts of his life for a year. Yes.

907
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: That. And then another weird story was nobody a pet duck.

908
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 4: Nobody knew where the ducks were coming out by the way. No,

909
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 4: like he would find him in his helmet. He would

910
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 4: like be putting his helmet.

911
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: He was like another dock. Like it was a problem

912
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: for Donald. It was a problem. In honor of.

913
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 4: This awesome college matchup, Rob and I are gonna take

914
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 4: a little trip down memory lane and.

915
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: Relive our glory college days.

916
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: Oh back to school, back to school to proof to

917
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: my mama, I ain't no fool.

918
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 3: Is that Billy Madison something like that? Back to school

919
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 3: because I'm not a fool.

920
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 7: I'm no food.

921
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 4: Let's go down memory lane of our college, Like why

922
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 4: you why did you choose Arizona.

923
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: You know, that's a great question. And everyone asked me

924
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 2: that because I'm from Buffalo.

925
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: New York.

926
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: I actually played my senior year actually in Pittsburgh at

927
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: Woodland Hills, but I'm technically am I claimed myself in Buffalo, obviously.

928
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 2: I grew up there for seventeen years. So my dad's

929
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 2: in the business world of selling fitness equipment commercially in retail,

930
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 2: and he goes on those conventions, you know, those business trips,

931
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: and he met a friend there that did the same

932
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,479
Speaker 2: exact thing that he does in Arizona. And that guy

933
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: was an Arizona Alemni, you know, part of the desert

934
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: storm defense.

935
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 3: And all that. And when we were growing up, he

936
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 3: became my dad's good friend.

937
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 2: And every time they went on these you know, business trips,

938
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: I always met up I was growing up. We were

939
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: just kids. So he was in my dad's here. Hey

940
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: when your kid's biggest.

941
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 3: Wildcat Aleemni loves the wildcause.

942
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: Hey, when your kids grow up, they got to take

943
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: a trip to University of Arizona. And this guy became

944
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: really good friends with my dad. So you got to

945
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 2: bring him the University of Arizona. So then my older

946
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 2: brothers they were getting recruited, they weren't.

947
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: At a high level. So whatever you can do.

948
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: You got to call up a friend, can you, you know,

949
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: have this coach look at my son. So I actually

950
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: went on the trip. So I just tagged along when

951
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: I was a sophomore in high school, just to see

952
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: what it was like.

953
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: And I got on.

954
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: A busy trip.

955
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I got to the campus. I was like, God,

956
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: damn man, what kind of school is this? I mean

957
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: they got pools, they got palm trees. I mean it's

958
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: sunny every single day, it's ninety degrees. And that's when

959
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: I first fell in love with the University of Arizona.

960
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: So shout out to Donnie Salem. He's still doing the

961
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: same thing. He's still in the fitness world, selling fitness equipment,

962
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: retail and commercially. He's actually a sponsor. He sponsors the

963
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos because he's based out of Denver now. So

964
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: without Donnie, I would have never been at the University

965
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: of Arizona.

966
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: Freaking Donnie. I went to Kent State.

967
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, why did you pick Ken State? Jules at

968
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: Kent State, Like, you're from the Bay Area. Kent State's

969
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: in Ohio. I mean, I think they do Halloween really

970
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: well in Ohio. But I don't think you were into

971
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 2: things like that when you were a kid. So why

972
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 2: did you pick Kent State? I picked Kent State.

973
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 4: I went Mike Golden in high schools. I just wanted

974
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 4: to play Division one quarterback D one, didn't matter where.

975
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 4: I just wanted to go D one. I really wanted

976
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 4: to go to play in the Pac Ten. I wanted

977
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 4: to go to Berkeley because that's where I was from

978
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 4: that area, and Aaron Rodgers went to Butte and I

979
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 4: went to Juco and he went to Berkeley after so

980
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 4: I kind of like wanted to go to Berkeley. Played

981
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 4: one year at Juco, lit it up, and then all

982
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 4: these schools started to ask him, you know, sending me letters,

983
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 4: and Kent sent me out and offered me a scholarship

984
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 4: after my first year, and a lot of these schools

985
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 4: wanted me to change positions. Kent's like, we'll let you

986
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 4: compete for our quarterback right now. I took a trip

987
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 4: out there, and I had the opposite thing of what

988
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 4: you had of like, oh, palm trees.

989
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: I was like, man, it's freezing out here. There's no leaves.

990
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 4: I was coming from California, where it's never really fall

991
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 4: out here, you know what I mean, and it was.

992
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: Like, bear, it was cold. I went to a spring practice.

993
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 4: And I was like, fuck it, man, if I go here,

994
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 4: I could play. I could play right away. I watched

995
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 4: their practices and I was like, I'm going here.

996
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: Fuck it. The best thing to happened.

997
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: I'm mad up playing the cold h kn' state going

998
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 4: flashes baby, let's go shout out, casey.

999
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 3: Did you have any other offers?

1000
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: Not after that one, not yet. No, just Kent State.

1001
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: Just Kent State, so.

1002
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: You're going there no matter what Kent State.

1003
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: Well, I still had another Juco. I had another jus.

1004
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: Oh you could have played Juco. I had one more

1005
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: your Juco, but you were paying for Juco right, Yeah,

1006
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: but it's like five hundred bucks.

1007
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: So what's five hundred dollars you didn't have You would

1008
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 2: have had to take out a loan or a free ride.

1009
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, five hundred dollars a month from the school.

1010
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: My pops took care of that one.

1011
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: That's a good pops right there.

1012
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: Shout out too. Did you have any other offers.

1013
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a couple other ones. My top four

1014
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: was Ohio State, Clemson, Syracuse because it was right down

1015
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: the street, about three hours away from Buffalo and Arizona.

1016
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: So those were my top four schools. And I had

1017
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: actually had the wildest recruiting visit to the University of Clemson.

1018
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: I had one of the best times. I mean, shout out.

1019
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 2: To my host I don't even know their names out there,

1020
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 2: but they're probably telling the story to this day still

1021
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: of those guys that were on the team that hosted

1022
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: me at the University of.

1023
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: What's this story?

1024
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember I was on a bar, I

1025
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: was dancing, and then like I do, there was Cheerleider's

1026
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: there and I was just just going ham like I

1027
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 2: usually go ham like that's all I wanted to do,

1028
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: like hammered off, like apple juice. I'm talking, yeah, Apple juice,

1029
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: hammered and it was great time. I had a voicemail

1030
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: after I picked the University of Arizona, like some girl

1031
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 2: that night, I guess I gave my number two, like

1032
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: literally left the voicemail on my phone after I picked

1033
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: the wildcast was like basically just told me how bad

1034
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: I messed up.

1035
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: With my decision.

1036
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to exactly say what the voicemail was,

1037
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 2: but I was like, this is incredible.

1038
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 3: I thought I was so cool.

1039
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ohio State.

1040
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 3: Ohio State was awesome right there.

1041
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: I was. I was hung over off apple juice there too,

1042
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: and that picture that went viral when I was in

1043
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: high school and took a visit there. I was definitely,

1044
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: you know, a little apple juice. And I was at

1045
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 2: the game. Let me tell you, Ohio State Clemson. You

1046
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: can't beat their facilities, you can't beat their organization, you

1047
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: can't beat the crowd, you can't beat their stadiums.

1048
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 3: But it just wasn't my fit.

1049
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: And if you know me personally, I'm not a guy

1050
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: that can get intrigued by that type of stuff. I'm

1051
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: a guy that sticks to my roots. The University of

1052
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: Arizona was where I belonged, you know, I fell at

1053
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: home there. I felt like I could go there and

1054
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: play right away. And also at the same time, I knew,

1055
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: if you did well enough it was Division one, you're

1056
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 2: gonna go to the NFL. Like there's guys going to

1057
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: the NFL at Arizona. So I was like, I can

1058
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: get to the NFL still, so.

1059
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: It wasn't like.

1060
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 7: D one.

1061
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 2: I wanted to, you know, be part of a team

1062
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: that turned it a rolly like coach Duops Ohio State.

1063
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 14: Though.

1064
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I was blown away about everything.

1065
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I was like, I can

1066
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: have all this if I make it to the NFL.

1067
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 1: And you did, yeah, and I did. Did you almost

1068
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: get kicked out of Arizona at all?

1069
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 3: I never really have.

1070
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: I mean, we got in a couple of big fights

1071
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: that was probably I would probably say that was the

1072
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: closest to getting kicked, you know, off the team. But

1073
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: there was a big, huge fight. There was like ten

1074
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 2: guys involved. Like I got brought in like three days

1075
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 2: later by the police officer that was investigating it, and

1076
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: he was actually on our side. And lately, I didn't

1077
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: even like open my mouth. I didn't tattle tell on anyone.

1078
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: I don't even know what fight you're talking about. And

1079
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: he's like, no, I'm here for you. I'm on your guys' side.

1080
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: But still I'm like, I I don't know, man, I

1081
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 2: was just walking by, and I don't really remember much.

1082
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 3: Krunk no rat, Yeah, no rat, no rat.

1083
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: Stick to the roots. Arizona was where it was at

1084
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: other schools were great, beautiful, nothing bad to say. Just

1085
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 2: I belonged, you know, at the University of Arizona, and.

1086
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: I belonged to Kent State. You did belong to ken

1087
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: and I loved Kent State.

1088
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 4: It opened up my perspective to the country, you know,

1089
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 4: I mean, it was a great The people the Midwest

1090
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 4: and Ohio Northeast Ohio are such awesome people.

1091
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: They love football out there.

1092
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 4: I was just always disappointed because I went to Kent

1093
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 4: State and everyone would leave our game to go watch

1094
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 4: the Ohio State game. Like we had no fans if

1095
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 4: Ohio State had a game during the same time. People

1096
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 4: at our school, at every school in Ohio love Ohio State.

1097
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 4: I didn't realize how big it was because you know,

1098
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 4: I grew up in the Bay Area where you know,

1099
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 4: we had Colin Stanford, but it was really a pro

1100
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 4: sport area. We had Niners, Giants, Warriors, Sharks early in

1101
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 4: my life, you know, came in there and Colin Stanford

1102
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 4: were big, but it wasn't huge. And I didn't realize

1103
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 4: how big college football was until I went to Ohio

1104
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 4: and I saw how big Ohio.

1105
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 1: State and that fan group was. It was freaking crazy

1106
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: to me.

1107
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 3: Here's a question.

1108
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: I've always wondered this because Ohio State's so big. They

1109
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 2: get one hundred, like ten thousand plus people a game,

1110
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 2: and you're you know, you went to school in Ohio

1111
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: at Kent State. Is Ohio State the football program out

1112
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 2: of all football programs at any level in the state

1113
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: of Ohio. Does it dominate the Cincinnati bank that does

1114
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: to dominate.

1115
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: The Cleveland Browns.

1116
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: Yes, if you're in Ohio, you grow up in Ohio,

1117
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: it's all about the Buckeyes.

1118
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 3: Or is it about the Browns or the Bengals?

1119
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: More Buckeyes Number one guarantee.

1120
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 4: You could go anywhere in the state, like you go

1121
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 4: down to like Cincinnati, and you can see this in

1122
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 4: like gas stations, or you go to like cracker barrels

1123
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 4: that are all over they'll always have Ohio State shit.

1124
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 4: They're selling Ohio State mugs. This that you go to

1125
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 4: like the West Virginia part of Ohio where it touches

1126
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 4: down there, you see nothing but Ohio State. You go

1127
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 4: up to Dayton, which is a different area like near

1128
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 4: Indiana and stuff, they love Ohio. They love Ohio State

1129
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 4: everywhere in Ohio. I couldn't I didn't understand it.

1130
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: It's huge. Did you ever host any recruiting trips with

1131
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: any other NFL guys?

1132
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: No, not really, So when I was at the University

1133
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: of Arizona, they didn't allow me to host anyone.

1134
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: Why.

1135
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hosted one player and we got chased by

1136
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: a helicopter.

1137
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: No, you didn't, I swear. What do you mean you

1138
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: got chased by a fucking helicopter.

1139
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 2: We got chased by a helicopter. I hit under a

1140
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: car and this recruit was running around with me. It

1141
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 2: was a top Juko recruit.

1142
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 7: I thought.

1143
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 3: I thought I definitely sold him. I thought he's definitely

1144
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 3: coming to the University of Areona.

1145
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 17: He didn't.

1146
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 3: No, he ended up going to Arizona State.

1147
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: Never seen him again until he goes Arizona State, and

1148
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: I was like, I thought he was definitely gonna choose

1149
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 2: the University of Arizona. And then and then I'm on

1150
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 2: the Patriots, like twenty sixteen or something, what year exactly.

1151
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 2: We signed some guy in the practice squad mid season alignment.

1152
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: He comes up to me, He's like, yo, grac remember me,

1153
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: and like, you know, back of my mind, I'm like

1154
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: I do, but I don't because I'd never seen him again.

1155
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: He left after that night, he was gone and chose

1156
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: Arizona State, Big time crew. He's like, yeah, you hosted

1157
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: me at the University of Arizona, and then everything just

1158
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 2: started clicking and I was like, oh my gosh.

1159
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 3: I was like, how you doing.

1160
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 14: How you doing.

1161
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 3: He's like, I will remember that night for rest of

1162
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: my life. But I can't believe he went to go

1163
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: be a devil.

1164
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he can't be.

1165
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 4: He can't sit foot in Tucson anymore because he didn

1166
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 4: Helicopter Jason. Any Arizona State message should story off that

1167
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 4: hangover was.

1168
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: Basically, we were at a party and got broken up,

1169
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: and there was always a helicopter that broke it up

1170
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: and everyone started running, and just the priminent premises of

1171
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 2: the of the story is the helicopter followed us.

1172
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 3: So then that was like the.

1173
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: Two biggest guys. This guy's a life, but we got away.

1174
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: We got away, Scott free to.

1175
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 3: Help my skills, help my football skills on the field.

1176
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: If you can get away from a helicopter, you can

1177
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 2: get away from a defender.

1178
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 4: You got one bone to pick though, oh hear this

1179
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 4: one now, can you at least confess that Bill is

1180
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 4: way softer on fucking defensive guys than offensive guys.

1181
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 18: And you want to know how I know because he

1182
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 18: would come up and ask us questions, Like on Wednesdays,

1183
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 18: he'd always he'd always test us, right, he'd always test us,

1184
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 18: both offense and defense in front of each other.

1185
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: He'd look over at me and I mean, what what

1186
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: coverage is this?

1187
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 7: And this this?

1188
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: He'd look over at V. Hey, V, what color is

1189
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: the team we're playing? That's not true, I don't think.

1190
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 19: But see we thought, because you got to understand, Bill

1191
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 19: used to come into our meetings. When he leaves squad

1192
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 19: and all that, he would come in there with us

1193
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 19: and grill us.

1194
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 1: So our question answering.

1195
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 19: He might not give it to us all in a

1196
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 19: team meeting, but he'll leave that meeting when we break

1197
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 19: up an individual, he'll come in there and grill us

1198
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 19: with questions, Hey.

1199
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: Big V, we're playing Derrick Henry this year? Is this

1200
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: a run or paste.

1201
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 7: Shit?

1202
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 11: Like?

1203
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm not even joking, bro, I'm sitting there. They're asking

1204
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: us scheme this, this, this? They're like, hey, is this

1205
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: chief coach like to throw it or run it?

1206
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 19: I'll tell you what The first I'll tell your funny

1207
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 19: story with Bill and me. Right, So my rookie year,

1208
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 19: we I think we we in Manning councilor something like that,

1209
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 19: and he's asking questions and I mean he going around

1210
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 19: and he's asking like layup questions.

1211
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: Right.

1212
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 19: So he get to me, He say, Vince, what is

1213
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 19: memorial today? So I'm like, man, I don't know if

1214
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 19: it's a trick question or not. So I was like, barbecue.

1215
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 19: He said, know you a whole?

1216
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: What answer it? I'm like, that's what we do, barbecue.

1217
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 11: Man.

1218
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 1: When I tell you, Bill couldn't do nothing but laugh.

1219
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 19: He could do it because I'm like, what do you

1220
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 19: ask me? I'm like, it's a trick question. What are

1221
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 19: you asking me? So he went on to tell everybody

1222
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 19: about memory. Then I'm like, hey man, I'm like, be

1223
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 19: a coach. I thought you was asking me what what

1224
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 19: we do on memorial?

1225
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 14: He said, nah, I.

1226
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: Know you asked whole I'm talking about that that.

1227
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 19: I'm like, my bad. That was my first question from Bill.

1228
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 19: And that's how I answered it.

1229
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: The first question and he and he had a little

1230
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: jolly smile. That was oh, I asked, so you guys

1231
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. No, no.

1232
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 19: When he used to ask Grunk question, we would laugh.

1233
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 19: If Grunk knew it, it didn't know, we would laugh and

1234
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 19: he would laugh so like. But I truly believe with Bill,

1235
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 19: and when it came to me, I can truly think that.

1236
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 19: I think Bill was testing me early on in my

1237
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 19: career on my knowledge of the game. I really was,

1238
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 19: and I appreciate him so much for doing that because

1239
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 19: he taught me so much about football in the game itself.

1240
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: You know.

1241
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 19: A lot of questions that he would You gotta understand.

1242
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 19: When I was a rookie, our defensive line, we was

1243
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 19: in charge of knowing quarterback pivots, the route, tree blocking schemes,

1244
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 19: cadence motions. We had to know all of that, which.

1245
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 4: Gives you an advantage because if you know the concepts,

1246
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,479
Speaker 4: you know that the quarterbacks got to get the ball

1247
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 4: like yes, which a lot of it's crazy to me

1248
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 4: that teams don't do that.

1249
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: That's but Bill stopped.

1250
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 19: I think we were the last class that came in

1251
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 19: that he did that too. But I think looking back now,

1252
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 19: I think he was just basically trying to see how

1253
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 19: smart in my football IQ was because in Bill my

1254
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 19: Bill is thinking three four steps ahead. He's like, let

1255
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 19: me see, I'm ann test and see what he knows.

1256
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 19: And I proved to him that I know the game

1257
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 19: of football, you know, And I think that allowed us

1258
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 19: to do a lot defensively, scheme wise, with me knowing

1259
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 19: what's going on, not only from a defensive line standpoint,

1260
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 19: but you know, the back end from the defense and

1261
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 19: offensively what they're trying to create, and Bill through formations

1262
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 19: and this and that. So it was like a not

1263
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 19: only we had, you know, the secondary, but if it

1264
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 19: was Rottney or if it was deaf with the calls,

1265
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 19: you know, we had our linebackers with the calls. Now

1266
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 19: he have trust that, Okay, I know Vince will be

1267
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 19: able to get calls out, get us lined up up front,

1268
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 19: and it allowed us to play so much faster as

1269
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 19: a defense. And you know, I credit all of that

1270
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 19: to Bill because how he taught me the game. I

1271
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,959
Speaker 19: thought I knew the game, but you know, sitting down

1272
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 19: and having a conversation with him, You're know right away

1273
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 19: like I don't know much about what I think I do,

1274
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 19: So I you know, I always think on because he

1275
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 19: meant a lot to me, not only in my personal

1276
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 19: life and the friendship we have and we built over

1277
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 19: the years. But as a coach, what he was allowed

1278
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 19: to coach and teach me, that's why I became the

1279
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 19: player I became, and that's why I moved from nose

1280
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 19: tackle to a defensive tackle to in and then I

1281
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 19: can flop to go to this side.

1282
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: So I didn't do.

1283
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 19: I didn't play a nose tradition like any other two

1284
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 19: gap nose because Bill had the luxury of moving moving

1285
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 19: me in different positions, and I can produce at those positions.

1286
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: So it just allowed us as a team.

1287
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 19: In defense to manipulate a lot of play calling from

1288
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 19: my offense and start standing the point, you know, because

1289
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 19: they never knew where I was going to be, you know.

1290
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 4: And a lot of it is common sense though that

1291
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 4: which is all right, take best defensive alignment, put him

1292
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 4: on worse offensive alignment, maybe not be in traditional spot,

1293
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 4: but that's weakness and then you win, you know what

1294
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 4: I mean, Like, oh yeah, but like that's it's crazy.

1295
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 4: Like I watch a lot of these defenses and I'm like,

1296
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 4: are we we?

1297
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: I guess we're just that much smarter.

1298
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 4: Because I was out, I'm sitting here and I was

1299
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,959
Speaker 4: talking to Antonio Gates. We did a show together, and

1300
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 4: he doesn't realize that I was in seventh grade when

1301
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 4: he was talking about the game that right he was playing.

1302
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I wasn't in this game.

1303
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 18: But the whole time he keeps on talking to me,

1304
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 18: how the fuck we lose these pages?

1305
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 4: And it hints to me like it's because we were,

1306
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 4: like what you're talking about, we were the smartest football team.

1307
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,439
Speaker 1: By by far. Yeah, yeah we were.

1308
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 4: We always were, you know what I mean, Like, it

1309
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 4: wasn't just know your position, you knew the rhyman reason

1310
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:53,959
Speaker 4: why you were doing what you were doing.

1311
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's a lot of times I lined up and

1312
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 19: I knew we had teams where first player of the game,

1313
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 19: I'm lined up somewhere opposite in their nose because office

1314
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 19: line would said, you know, I got a lot of

1315
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 19: old crap. Didn't realize I was going to be over there.

1316
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 19: So now I know, Okay, now I'm playing with your

1317
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 19: scheme because everything you prepared for it's not it. So

1318
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 19: now you have to go back to the drawing board

1319
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 19: and you have to figure out, Okay, where event's going

1320
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 19: to be, what they're gonna be playing. We thought he

1321
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 19: was gonna be this but now. But yeah, I remember,

1322
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 19: like a lot of office linemen like, oh, crap, you

1323
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 19: over here, what you're doing over here? Yeah, the screw

1324
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 19: you'll play up, simple as that.

1325
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 4: Now, a guy you played with on those defenses is

1326
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 4: now the head coach of the New England Patriots.

1327
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel. Love it? What are your thoughts on that?

1328
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: I love it, you know.

1329
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 19: And the thing is I had the luxury to be

1330
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 19: a player with Mike, and in Houston he was a

1331
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 19: linebackers coach, so coach for Mike, I mean played for Mike,

1332
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 19: and I always knew since the time that our plan

1333
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 19: days that he was going to be a head coach.

1334
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 19: I always knew that. I mean, he was a coach,

1335
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 19: like no doubt in my mind that was going to happen.

1336
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 19: And I love that move because he's going to get

1337
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 19: the best out of everybody. And he's very smart when

1338
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 19: it comes to the game of football. He knows exactly

1339
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 19: what he's doing, He know how to he know how

1340
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 19: he wanted to deliver messages. He's outspoken. If he believes something,

1341
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 19: he believe in it. If he don't like something, he'll

1342
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 19: tell you. I mean, he will speak his mind. But

1343
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 19: at the same time, the respect that he receives is

1344
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 19: because what he poured out. So I think we're in

1345
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 19: good hands with Mike. I really do believe we're going

1346
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 19: to do We're going to do some wonders this year.

1347
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,959
Speaker 19: I mean, we're going to sell a different football team

1348
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 19: this year. And I'm expecting for us to shock a

1349
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 19: lot of people, you know, just because of I know

1350
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 19: Mike as a person and a player and the coach.

1351
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: I've already known him, you know, I know it.

1352
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 19: And they spend money, Yeah, they gonna spend guess what

1353
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 19: he ain't for the hottest hand. If he he want somebody,

1354
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 19: he's gonna let me know we need this player. I

1355
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 19: don't want him, we need him. He'll tell him, you know.

1356
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 19: And and that's what I love about him. He's a

1357
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 19: he's a players coach. But at the same time, he's disciplined.

1358
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 19: He's going to have a smart football team, not gonna

1359
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 19: make a lot of dumb mistakes. And they're gonna play

1360
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 19: hard for him. They're gonna play hard for him. So

1361
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 19: I'm excited about it. I'm happy that, you know, we

1362
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 19: diget Mike. You know, if that was the choice, I

1363
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 19: love that we went and grabbed him because I think

1364
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 19: he'll do wonders for us.

1365
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you think these teams are gonna look more like

1366
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 4: our old teams?

1367
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, in some capacity.

1368
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1369
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 19: I think one of the main things we're gonna get

1370
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 19: is the competitiveness and aggressive play, I think, and a

1371
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 19: smart team.

1372
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: You know.

1373
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 19: So you're gonna see we're gonna look we're gonna look apart.

1374
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 19: We're going to look like we know what we're doing.

1375
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,959
Speaker 19: You know, the past four or five years, we didn't

1376
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 19: look like that. We were we you know, the past

1377
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 19: four or five years, you know what we look like.

1378
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 19: We looked like teams we used to talk about, like

1379
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 19: how can how you do that? That's how we used

1380
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 19: to look. I don't think we'll look like. We're going

1381
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 19: to be coached very very well and hard and we're

1382
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:05,959
Speaker 19: going to play hard.

1383
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 4: What's what's the difference between Raves as a coach and

1384
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 4: a player? Really nothing, really nothing nothing. That's why when

1385
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 4: I played with him, he's the same guy as a coach.

1386
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 4: Then when I played with him, you got to understand.

1387
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 4: I've seen Ray him and Tom Brady go at it

1388
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 4: on the sideline or practicing. You know, I've seen brave

1389
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 4: Raves walking out a quarterbacks meeting with Tom. I've seen

1390
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 4: Rave and Tom walking down the hallway with a playbook

1391
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 4: talking about this. I've seen Ray and Tom talking about

1392
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 4: scheme I saw and I heard Ray tell Tom that

1393
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 4: would never work against this guy.

1394
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: I've seen it.

1395
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 19: Like so the respect Tom gave him for input in

1396
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 19: what he was trying to do, that tells you everything.

1397
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: What was the worst thing you ever heard Coach Frable

1398
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: say to Tom?

1399
01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 19: I mean it got afe you that.

1400
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1401
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,959
Speaker 19: F bombs was always a part of it. He didn't

1402
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 19: care who you a bill get F bombs.

1403
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: Brave man.

1404
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 19: Look at when when I tell you, when Mike believe

1405
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 19: in something, he gonna stand firm in it, and he's

1406
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 19: gonna tell you why.

1407
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: Now that's what I love about it. Was he a

1408
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: smart shit talker? Yeah he was. Yeah, so he like

1409
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: pulls something out of the cuddies.

1410
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 19: I've been on the field where the call come in

1411
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 19: and Ray, He'll shake your head, that's not gonna work.

1412
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 19: I've been in the huddle with him or when we

1413
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 19: in the meeting room, that's not gonna work. And he'll

1414
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 19: tell you why. He was so smart as a players.

1415
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 19: It was just you would never believe that he was

1416
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 19: a linebacker. The way he saw the game, he saw

1417
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 19: it as a head coach scenario situation.

1418
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 7: He's seen it as a head coach as a player.

1419
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: Now, this just popped it in my head.

1420
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 4: Do you think Bill liked Rabel more than you because

1421
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 4: he let him play offense and gave him a touchdown?

1422
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 19: Look here, that's one thing I regret with Bill, Like,

1423
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 19: come on, Bill like, And the craziest thing is but

1424
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 19: the thing is he did more.

1425
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: He let seymore line up in the backfield.

1426
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 19: So I'm like, man, listen, no, no shade towards anybody,

1427
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 19: but I was the best. I was the best athlete

1428
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 19: on the on the defense, hands down, tell them straight up.

1429
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 19: I returned kicks in high school. I kicked the ball

1430
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 19: in high school.

1431
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: I did.

1432
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 19: I played every position you could possibly name on on

1433
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 19: the field. One one position I would never play its center,

1434
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 19: but I tried it and I hated it. But I

1435
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 19: played every position like I played basketball. I dunked basketball.

1436
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 19: I did all of that. I was the greatest poundful

1437
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 19: pound athletes on the pages. I mean, Jamie Collins pretty tight.

1438
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 19: But listen, here a guy in my side to do

1439
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 19: what I did we're not for to play this. I

1440
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 19: played lineback, I dropped dropped in cover like I could

1441
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 19: do all of that, and you could dance. I could

1442
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 19: dance like a ballerina.

1443
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: I could dance. My footwork was good, and you could

1444
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: you could move like a ballerina.

1445
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 19: So for me not to be on the offensive side

1446
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 19: of the ball when I see a lot of guys

1447
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 19: not just from us, but other teams, you know, putting

1448
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 19: their guys in the background that you know, have some

1449
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 19: athleticism to them. You know, that was kind of bombed

1450
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 19: out for me.

1451
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 4: Now would that be a perfect moment to use if Bill,

1452
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 4: you saw Bill, mother fox.

1453
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: Oh I hit him with that? Well, yeah, you motherfuck you.

1454
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 19: Remember when it was Matt Castle and Tom going back

1455
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 19: and forth, Oh my god, what happened?

1456
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: They was going back and forth pranking each other.

1457
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 19: So so I think Matt philed Tom Carve for all

1458
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 19: of these.

1459
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: Little bubbles peanuts.

1460
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 15: So Tom took his tires and hit him everywhere and

1461
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 15: hit him like so he had three tires and still

1462
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 15: was looking for one.

1463
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: It was in the bubble. So Bill finally like, look.

1464
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 7: Guys, she stopped screwing around.

1465
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you plead too much?

1466
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 19: Playing it's kidding out of the trip, just kidd So

1467
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 19: Bill had to put a stop to it.

1468
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: Man, it was going for weeks.

1469
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 7: It was going, dude, they were.

1470
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 19: I mean, I'm like, dude when I was When I

1471
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 19: tell you, some of my most funniest times in life

1472
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 19: is on a football fielding in the locker room. So

1473
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 19: people always ask me, do you miss the game? I like, no,

1474
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 19: you know, I missed my teammates in the locker room

1475
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 19: and the fans. That's what I miss. I don't miss

1476
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 19: the game itself. I missed the camaraderie just hanging out

1477
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 19: in the locker room two three hours after we finished,

1478
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 19: and just sitting down and drinking gatorade and just hanging

1479
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 19: out in the locker room.

1480
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 20: Like the end of my career. I played eleven years.

1481
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 20: You guys played a little bit longer. Would you play

1482
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 20: total twelve? Twelve?

1483
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 3: Eleven?

1484
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: You played eleven? Yes? All right?

1485
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 20: So I can ask you this, and if you would

1486
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 20: have played eleven or twelve, right, would there have been

1487
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 20: a difference in how you're living right now?

1488
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: Probably, you think so. Maybe there's a few more ms, yeah,

1489
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: a few more ms, but at the end of the day,

1490
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: a few more contract in the back of my career. Yeah,

1491
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: but how many heads shots?

1492
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 3: How many headshots right now? Instead of just on their you.

1493
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: Take any shots that last year. They don't even hit me.

1494
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 20: They don't even hit Okay, we're throwing tho there.

1495
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 4: That was fifteen years ago, I know, but they all

1496
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 4: catch up to you. These helmets are freaking sick.

1497
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: We didn't play with kept playing. I would have kept playing.

1498
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 20: We played with the helmets that they're banned now you

1499
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 20: can't even put them on. Yeah yeah year one. No,

1500
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,879
Speaker 20: the last helmet I wore, you can't even wear anymore.

1501
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's you. That sounds like a you problem. I

1502
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: was wearing advice. I mean, that's like ten years.

1503
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 20: That's Tom his helmet, he can't he couldn't. Tom had

1504
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 20: that old school helmet. The hell big his helmet was

1505
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 20: because he's got such a large head. It was like

1506
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 20: elongated like a bus, you know, because he has that

1507
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 20: like two x helmet that he wore, and it was

1508
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 20: that old school right now, remember the old school right now,

1509
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 20: you couldn't even wear it.

1510
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 1: At the end of his career, he had it. He

1511
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: was grandfathered into wearing his just like the single the thing. Yeah,

1512
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: you know Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, he's a meme now because

1513
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: of that one. Mm hmm. All right, let's get into.

1514
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 4: Anything so easy for come on, let's go pats over

1515
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 4: under eleven wins this year?

1516
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: Under? Why under eleven wins? Four wins? Yeah, but let's

1517
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 1: be realistic. Coach, new player.

1518
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 3: Okay, hit in the.

1519
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: Draft, got the tackle, got wide receiver at the tap,

1520
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 2: defensive stacks?

1521
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 3: Why under eleven?

1522
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 20: Wait a minute, I'm just saying, like, let's be realistic.

1523
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 20: You think you're gonna have twelve wins? Twelve wins?

1524
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 3: Twelve is a lot.

1525
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna be a twelve win team after being a

1526
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: four wins tough? It is tough.

1527
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 2: I mean, look at the Washington So I took the

1528
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 2: under man commanders.

1529
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, command commanders, Yeah, so did it? You just said?

1530
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 9: So?

1531
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: My thought is, how do you win over under nine?

1532
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: All right, that's more. I'm a nine. I think they're

1533
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: nine to ten win team.

1534
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 10: Nine.

1535
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 3: Ten eleven is a lot.

1536
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm going over on nine and I'm going under on eleven.

1537
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 3: Okay, you're right, that's what realistic that is.

1538
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 20: So do you think that you can win instantly with

1539
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 20: overpaying in fre agency?

1540
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 3: That's a great point, because look at.

1541
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: The they just spent three hundred and fifty five.

1542
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the thought the dream team Philadelphia Eagles.

1543
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 2: Remember twenty thirteen coach Balichuck always put them up on

1544
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 2: the board. There was so much talk about him. They

1545
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: were talking all where the greatest team. We got so

1546
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 2: many free agencies come in and then they went went

1547
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 2: five and eleven that year six, you know, I mean

1548
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 2: it's in ten and they brought in that many free agencies.

1549
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you're gonna gel as a team when

1550
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 2: you bring in that many free agents exactly. But but

1551
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 2: they're veteran free agencies. Vrabel's a guy that kind of

1552
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 2: you know, feels like you can tell them.

1553
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 3: He's a gather.

1554
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 20: He's a guy that you know, he's the glue guy, right,

1555
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 20: and he's one of them dudes. You see him and

1556
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 20: that what's it forged in Foxborough? Now they got the

1557
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 20: over forge. We're like building this thing up like our

1558
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 20: new team has, like our new facility. We're gonna build

1559
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 20: it from the ground up with steel and iron, and

1560
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 20: we're gonna good. Yeah, Mark great, it's great marketing. So

1561
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 20: my thought is, if you protect the quarterback, which is

1562
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 20: number one in the NFL.

1563
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 4: Right, I don't think you could ever overpay for offense alignment.

1564
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: No, but they didn't.

1565
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 4: So like like they over said they overpaid for a

1566
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 4: bunch of free agents, when you.

1567
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 3: How much is they paying for any free agencies?

1568
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 2: On the little guy thirty four?

1569
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 20: And he's been you know, last year was kind of

1570
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 20: riddled with injuries. Where do they get it from with

1571
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:09,440
Speaker 20: the Commanders?

1572
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: Okay?

1573
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 20: Yes, so actually he was played against him with the

1574
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 20: Commanders and then he went to that he was with

1575
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 20: the Jets.

1576
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: He's banged up, like good drafted. He's a very good

1577
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: player they drafted.

1578
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 20: And I will say I would say that all his interviews,

1579
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 20: Campbell not comfortable thinking about what.

1580
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 1: Boys.

1581
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: Uh did he make that tackle by the way, or

1582
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 2: he miss it while I was on the sidelines and

1583
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 2: like he putushed me out. It was like a Gimmey

1584
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 2: was a gimme tackle? What's what? It was bad on

1585
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 2: his party? It was just a normal flat route and

1586
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 2: I got twelve yards in the flat route. He didn't

1587
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 2: do his job in the coverage game, Yeah no, and

1588
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 2: then it was a gimme tackle. So tough, I mean

1589
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 2: you on the sideline, I was wronging though I was

1590
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 2: fast back that. Yeah, you were pretty fast.

1591
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 20: So I think you look at I do like his interviews,

1592
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 20: by the way, the first overall pick right. If you

1593
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,879
Speaker 20: could describe yourself in one word, how would you nasty?

1594
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 20: My job is to protect the quarterback. I love getting

1595
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 20: down and nasty in the trenches. I'm just out there

1596
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 20: past set and trying to protect my quarterback like that

1597
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 20: gets me going, right?

1598
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: You love? All right? Wait? How many times have you

1599
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 1: been practicing that?

1600
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 20: I just made it up, just real quick. It's like

1601
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 20: you and the Bill Belichick impersonations. So many times you're

1602
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 20: in the mirror. Just I meant next.

1603
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: I sat in front of him for twelve years and

1604
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: watch him pick his noses? Did Yeah? I get, I get.

1605
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: I can tell you his habits from everything. Yeah, isn't that.

1606
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: It's attractive, isn't it? But you didn't. You didn't sit

1607
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: to Campbell for twelve years.

1608
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 4: I just listened to him, and then you practiced a

1609
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 4: couple of times, just one.

1610
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 3: It's all about.

1611
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: Watching yourself once doing no, never did. I don't think

1612
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: I did. Jewels, I think.

1613
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 3: Friend maker.

1614
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: Come on, jeez, I'm gonna have to jiff you all right?

1615
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 2: Well, talking about Belle. We got an inco here and

1616
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 2: looking at that hat. What was it like visiting Bill

1617
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 2: at Chapel Hill Chapel.

1618
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: Bill, great, Yeah, it was great.

1619
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 3: We had at the page.

1620
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: Let you go out. No, I didn't do anything like.

1621
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 3: That, even even Bean, Yeah away.

1622
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: My phone was in the hotel.

1623
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 20: Okay, But anyway, it's uh, you know, for me, I feel,

1624
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 20: you know, look, you put her shirt like this on,

1625
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 20: you wear a hat like this, get something, walk around you.

1626
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 2: Know, comm aft Bahama, baby to say, you walk around

1627
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: commaf and what maybe just pick up a younger chick

1628
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: or something, you know.

1629
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

1630
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 20: Everyone's so serious these days. I'm a married man, freaking Page.

1631
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:38,440
Speaker 20: I love you, She's the best.

1632
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 3: But I would go after you if I saw that ring.

1633
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 10: That was great.

1634
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 20: So so this is my this is my thought. I

1635
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 20: was surprised that he took that job. I think we

1636
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 20: were all a little shocked to the surprise. I think

1637
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 20: the challenge is probably going to be trying to get

1638
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 20: the most out of a less talented roster. The worst

1639
01:13:55,520 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 20: NFL team in the NFL is more talented. Let's like

1640
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 20: you could have the shittiest NFL football team and you

1641
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 20: have a you know, roster full of studs. So I

1642
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 20: think it might be a little bit more difficult to

1643
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 20: get the most out of some of these kids that,

1644
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,759
Speaker 20: let's face it, maybe one, two, maybe three or NFL

1645
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 20: caliber players. Like you look at NFL teams. How many

1646
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 20: NFL guys played on your Arizona team? Three or four

1647
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 20: or four?

1648
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: How many from Kent State three? Three?

1649
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 20: So like every every college team probably has three if

1650
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,520
Speaker 20: four max NFL caliber players and some have won.

1651
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: Some have none, right, some have none.

1652
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 20: Especially you know, if you're Alabama, you're gonna have maybe

1653
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 20: eight to.

1654
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 1: Ten a lot of money in Chapel Hill, Yeah, but

1655
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to bring in some talent.

1656
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 20: And I know that like the Big Ten, some of

1657
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 20: these big schools they have to cut down on their

1658
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 20: roster because there's no walk ons anymore. So they did

1659
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 20: away with the walk on. So if you're from Carolina,

1660
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 20: you're Chapel Hill. Yeah, they pick up trying to pick

1661
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 20: those guys up through free agency. So you know, it

1662
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 20: was interesting because there's definitely you know, you talk to

1663
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 20: some of these kids, You're like, how.

1664
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: Old are you?

1665
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 20: Like, oh, I'm eighteen, Like shit, you're eighteen years old. Okay,

1666
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 20: it's pretty wild. Honestly. You know I was I was

1667
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 20: a young I didn't red shirt, so I was young.

1668
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 20: I was eighteen when I was in junior college, and

1669
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 20: when I got drafted at twenty one, so my rookie season,

1670
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 20: I was twenty two years old. You know a lot

1671
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 20: of these kids they're you know, red shirt, gray shirt,

1672
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 20: transfer year, COVID year. You know, you got some kids

1673
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 20: that are twenty four and you got other kids that

1674
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 20: are eighteen, So you have a wide discrepancy there of.

1675
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 1: Age, the word discrepancy and learning. This guy's smart. Yeah,

1676
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: perdue guy. You know, three point two GPA not bad.

1677
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: Oh, Slate only had a three point one at UCLA.

1678
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 2: I know, three point two guy, it's pretty smart.

1679
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: They say produced like the IVY League of Public Schools.

1680
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 4: All right, next question, played with Sean You played with

1681
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 4: Sean Payton.

1682
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't play with a much? Yeah.

1683
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 20: Yeah, that's like you know, somebody said, like somebody stole

1684
01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 20: Bill Belichick's Super Bowl jersey.

1685
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, he didn't wear a jersey, Like Bill's

1686
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: never won. This isn't baseball.

1687
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 20: We're like, which is weirdager, don't you think the manager

1688
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 20: is wearing like a full uniform is odd.

1689
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: Well, imagine like Bill the manager used to play.

1690
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 7: Hious.

1691
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 1: I know, I know that that's the history. I thought

1692
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 1: you were a tradition guy.

1693
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 14: I leave our weight room, walk through the locker room,

1694
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 14: go buy our meeting the room, go down the hallway.

1695
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 14: And of course I'm not really as scared or because

1696
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 14: you don't know yet. I don't know yet, That's what

1697
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 14: I'm saying. Like I'm not as I'm naive. You go

1698
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 14: talk to Bill, Talk to Bill, you know, I guess

1699
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 14: we'll start with how Bill put me in fat camp,

1700
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 14: you know, like when I was overweight coming in as

1701
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 14: a running back, and uh, do you want to go

1702
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 14: ahead and elaborate on that store? Man?

1703
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 1: Heavyweights?

1704
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 4: Man?

1705
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 1: Did he bring in Ben Stiller? Tony Tony Perkins?

1706
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,879
Speaker 14: Bro, that's one of those dude.

1707
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: Bill chicks is Tony Perkins right now?

1708
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 14: Man, You get to New England and of course you're

1709
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 14: going in there and it's Bill Belichick, and Bill's intimidating, bro,

1710
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 14: Like you gotta give it to him, man, Like he's

1711
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,799
Speaker 14: he knows what he's doing. He's got a system in place,

1712
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 14: and you don't mess with him. You know what I mean,

1713
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 14: You just don't you respect him. You're in the presence

1714
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 14: of one of the greatest to ever do it, if

1715
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 14: not the greatest coach ever do it. I'm gonna give

1716
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 14: him his man. He is because I played for a

1717
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 14: lot of ball coaches. But you know, you have that

1718
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 14: meeting where you come in there and you're a rookie.

1719
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 14: He gives you your playing weight. And he brought me

1720
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 14: into the office because I go to the weight room

1721
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 14: and coach Nash hop on the scale, really and I

1722
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 14: hopped on the scale.

1723
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: How much was it?

1724
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 14: And I'm leaving about two thirty five to thirty.

1725
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 1: Eight somewhere the year is this rookie year.

1726
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 14: It's my rookie year.

1727
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: So he came in at two thirty eight.

1728
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,560
Speaker 14: Came in. I played at LSU around two thirty you

1729
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 14: know what I mean, like as a running back.

1730
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: But eight pounds is eight pounds.

1731
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 14: Eight pounds is a lot. Bro eight pounds a lot.

1732
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 14: And then you wait till the story, just going understand.

1733
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: What's the way? What's the way?

1734
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 14: So Nash gets in there coaching, Nashes our string coach,

1735
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 14: and he's like, really, hop on the scale. So I

1736
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 14: hop on the scale. I think I was tipping that

1737
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 14: thing at between two thirty five two forty sec running

1738
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 14: back between the tackles from a big bat. Hey, I

1739
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 14: obviously did something right because Coach you drafted me. Like

1740
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 14: what you saw Nash is like Ridley, you got some

1741
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 14: work to do. I'm like, all right, you know, I

1742
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 14: ain't scared of work. Coach said, you got to be

1743
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 14: at two twenty. I said two twenty. How I said, Nash,

1744
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 14: you're tripping. I talked, you're tripping, bro I said, nah,

1745
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 14: He said, don't ask me. I'm just telling you what

1746
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 14: the boss man said. And I said, well, which boss

1747
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 14: man we talking about? He said, you can go see

1748
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 14: the head man if you want to there. I went,

1749
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 14: you know what I mean, like, what's the problem. I

1750
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 14: gotta go talk to coach and see what's up because

1751
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 14: what reason?

1752
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 4: So you went from weight room. Yeah, you took that

1753
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 4: long ass walk down those hallways.

1754
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 14: To that entry door and you saw Bears cross Bears's office.

1755
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 14: I said, Bears is coach available? And I didn't think

1756
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 14: I was doing anything wrong. I might have been getting

1757
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 14: off on the wrong foot with Bill Belichick because here

1758
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 14: I am, as a rookie walking into his office trying

1759
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 14: to tell him what my playing weight would be. But

1760
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,560
Speaker 14: what do I know. I'm a rookie, guys, you know

1761
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 14: what I mean. I'm just coming in, like, coach, come on.

1762
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 14: So Nash is telling me, I'm two thirty five on

1763
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,600
Speaker 14: a light day, two forty if I finished leaving the

1764
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 14: breakfast buffet, eat my bacon and omelets and grits that

1765
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 14: I get every day. So he's like, we want you

1766
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 14: two twenty by a certain day. I can't even remember

1767
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,480
Speaker 14: what he said, so I was like, man, that's impossible.

1768
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 14: I was like, there's no way I'm gonna be able

1769
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 14: to do that. So I walked back. I said, all right,

1770
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:45,560
Speaker 14: coach Nash, I'm head on up to go talk to

1771
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 14: Bill to see what's up. See if I can kind

1772
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 14: of work this out.

1773
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: You thought you're going in there and negotiate a couple

1774
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:50,759
Speaker 1: of pounds.

1775
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 14: Go talk to coach.

1776
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: Coach, you give me two to twenty eight.

1777
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 14: Hey, anything we beat it? Can we meet in the

1778
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,560
Speaker 14: middle and y'all. When I I tell y'all, coach.

1779
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: Is paint the picture. You walk in? What's where's he is?

1780
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:06,879
Speaker 1: He at his desk at his computer.

1781
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 14: Okay, So I leave, I leave our weight room, walk

1782
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 14: through the locker room, go buy our meeting the room,

1783
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,799
Speaker 14: go down the hallway, And of course I'm not really

1784
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 14: as scared or because you don't know yet. I don't

1785
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:21,799
Speaker 14: know yet. That's what I'm saying, Like, I'm.

1786
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: Not as I'm naive.

1787
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 14: Im talk to Bill, talk to Bill, you know, like

1788
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 14: not talk hey, truly what I look back on things now.

1789
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 4: I was walking by you in the hallway as a

1790
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 4: second year or third year guy.

1791
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: Just like, what a dumb ass.

1792
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 14: So I cut out of the hallway. You saying all

1793
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 14: this to say, I have seen I want to get

1794
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 14: too far off track, but I've seen rookies, y'all, like

1795
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 14: on my back end because I was there for four years.

1796
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 14: I've seen rookies come in and see Bill coming down

1797
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,600
Speaker 14: the hallway and they would literally like just bust the

1798
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 14: left right into a random meeting room because they don't

1799
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 14: want to look this in his eyes. Bro still comes

1800
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 14: down the hallway. I'm not making this up. Cut sweatshirt,

1801
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 14: looks like he's been at his office for three days.

1802
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 14: People are like, fread do you know what I mean?

1803
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 14: So I walked down there and I'm like, hey, bears,

1804
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 14: you can't get to Bill without going through Bears. But

1805
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 14: if you make that right into that office, you better

1806
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 14: have a damn good reason to go in there. And

1807
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 14: I had a damn good reason that day, coach, because

1808
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 14: I can't drop all this weight. How you trying to

1809
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 14: get me to drop it? Let me show you how

1810
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 14: much he cared. I walked in.

1811
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: I said, Coach, he's at his death.

1812
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 14: He's at his desk. He's sitting at his desk behind

1813
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 14: his deck. I said, coach could come in and sit down.

1814
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 14: He said, yeah, Rid, come on in and sit down.

1815
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 7: Okay.

1816
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: Did he know you were coming? Or is he blindsided?

1817
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 14: He was blindsided? He was blindsided. Bears let me in,

1818
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:50,600
Speaker 14: you know? Bears Check said, you know Steven's here to

1819
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 14: talk to you.

1820
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: Did you tell Bears while you were talking to him?

1821
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 14: I can't really remember those details, but I definitely what

1822
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 14: did Bear did?

1823
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: Just here's you go?

1824
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 14: Bears looked at me. I guess I walked in. I

1825
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,600
Speaker 14: was like, Bear's his coach available, and he kind of

1826
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 14: looked up, and I was like, I just need to

1827
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 14: talk to him real quick.

1828
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 1: Nothing, So Bill's sit you down.

1829
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 14: And when I walk in there Bill sitting behind his

1830
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 14: desk and he's like, come on in and sit down.

1831
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 14: So I walked in and sat down. He's like, what

1832
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 14: you got rid? So, coach, uh, I need to talk

1833
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 14: to you about this weight. I was like, I just waited,

1834
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 14: you know, and uh, coaching Nash told me at the

1835
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 14: weight that you have told him that you want.

1836
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 1: Me to play at.

1837
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 14: And I'm just making sure this is the right weight

1838
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 14: and this is not like a mistake like and he said,

1839
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 14: what's the number? I can't really remember.

1840
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: What I had and nada YadA.

1841
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 14: I said, well, the number is.

1842
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: You could have gone right there.

1843
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 4: If you wanted to make the decision, you could have

1844
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 4: said to twenty five because you if you if he

1845
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 4: didn't remember the weight, maybe he would have agreed at

1846
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 4: to twenty five.

1847
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: All right, you messed up? Go ahead?

1848
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 14: Should I should have had a better negotiation tactic, as

1849
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,719
Speaker 14: though what Juill said. But I'm just in there trying

1850
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 14: not to die and starve myself out at this rate.

1851
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 14: So I go in and I say, well, coach, this

1852
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 14: weight that you want me at? I said, Coach, now,

1853
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,640
Speaker 14: I said, you want me at two twenty And I

1854
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 14: said that's impossible. So I'm just telling you right now,

1855
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 14: I don't know what it is, And I said, I

1856
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 14: don't know how you want me to get there. I said,

1857
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 14: I'll bust my ass and do whatever. But I'm like

1858
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 14: two twenty, I said, can I just tell you a

1859
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 14: little bit about me? Like like he doesn't already know

1860
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 14: you drafted me. The Patriots investigate everybody. They know everything

1861
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 14: about you before they even get you in the building.

1862
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 14: So I said, Coach, what did he say tell you

1863
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 14: about me? I said, can I tell you about me?

1864
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 14: And he was like, sure, you know, Jesus dry, you

1865
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 14: know it's not too much. I pulled out my driver's

1866
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,759
Speaker 14: license and I pulled out my drivers It's true story.

1867
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 14: I pulled out my driver's license. I said, Coach, look, look,

1868
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 14: I just want to show you this. I said, coach,

1869
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 14: and I promise this true store, I said, I just

1870
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 14: want to tell you, like, if you can look at

1871
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 14: my driver's license. I slid it on this desk. You know,

1872
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 14: I'm bold as a rookie. And it's like, what it was,

1873
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 14: this clown? You know what I mean? I said, these

1874
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 14: numbers that are on my driver's license from when I

1875
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 14: got my permit in high school to before I even

1876
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 14: got a driver's license. My permit and on my permit.

1877
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 14: At fifteen and a half years old, I was five

1878
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 14: eleven two hundred and twenty pounds. That's how much I

1879
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 14: weighed in high school. So I said, coach, you mean

1880
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 14: to tell me that you want me to drop from

1881
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 14: two thirty eight all the way down to two twenty.

1882
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 14: And he looked at me and he said, kind of

1883
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 14: smacked those lips, well read, I mean really, I think

1884
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 14: it's only about five hundred and sixty three dollars per

1885
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 14: pound per day that you're overweight, So it's really up

1886
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 14: to you. And I said what, I'm like, what do

1887
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 14: you mean? He was like per pound per day and

1888
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 14: he doubled down on it. I was like, I can

1889
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,560
Speaker 14: do quick math, bro, I'm third round drift pick. I

1890
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 14: ain't got money like that. So fat camp, I went,

1891
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 14: you know what I mean, I'm like, screw it, coach,

1892
01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 14: you know what I mean. If that's how we're gonna

1893
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 14: go about it, there's nothing I can do.

1894
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 1: So what's fat camp? Until?

1895
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 14: So fat camp consisted of me coming in once. I

1896
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 14: had to drop from two thirty eight to my weight

1897
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 14: when I was fifteen years old of two twenty. It

1898
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 14: required me changing my diet with our beautiful nutrition. Ted First,

1899
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 14: Ted put me on this strip died. I had to

1900
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 14: come into fat Camp, which was running before practice. So

1901
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 14: we had to come in and either do our workout

1902
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 14: what like before practice in the mornings, or we had

1903
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 14: to go and do our workout after practice once we

1904
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 14: got off the field. I was always an early riser,

1905
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 14: so I came in early in the morning. So fat

1906
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 14: Camp I was basically in there with all the guys

1907
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 14: who were overweight that were trying to cut weight. So

1908
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 14: I would have to go in every morning and I'm

1909
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 14: talking about this still dark outside at five am and

1910
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 14: just hit the treadmill and run. And so that was

1911
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 14: the first time that I really I think the structure

1912
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 14: and I look back on that. I like that structure

1913
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 14: and that discipline. It It made me a good pro

1914
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 14: because I legit dropped this weight for the simple fact

1915
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 14: that I was not gonna give up my money. And

1916
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 14: to do the math, if I'm two thirty eight and

1917
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 14: the weight it's two twenty, let's do that times five

1918
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 14: hundred and sixty three bucks times eighteen per day, Like

1919
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 14: my paychecks' is gonna be pretty thin. You know. The

1920
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 14: Massachusetts state taxes weren't too forgiving you know what I mean.

1921
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 14: I don't need to be giving away any extra.

1922
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 1: Eight point three now six point eight.

1923
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 7: It used to be there's some new shit, something crazy.

1924
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 14: So I got on board with the program and coach

1925
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 14: didn't really like yell at me or nothing like that.

1926
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 14: But I don't know if I kind of rubbed them

1927
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 14: the wrong way from jump, but it was just like

1928
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 14: one of those deals. It shook me up as a rook.

1929
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 14: I'm like, how on the hell am I about to

1930
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 14: drop twenty pounds or twenty five pounds and you want

1931
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 14: me to run between the tackle bang it out with

1932
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 14: the Brandon Spikes of the worlds and the driw Males

1933
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 14: of the world linebackers at two fifty five?

1934
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 1: Were you were? You? Were you better at two twenty?

1935
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 14: As quick as a cat freaking nasty dude? Like what

1936
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 14: Once I got to that planing weight, I'm like, hey,

1937
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 14: you know, Bill knows what the hell he's talking about.

1938
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 1: In fact camp with you.

1939
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 14: Dude, I think big Marcus Cannon was in the.

1940
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 1: Cannon used to cheat the fucking scale.

1941
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 4: Remember that one time, Marcus Can He used to have

1942
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 4: to weigh in all the time. He was always in fact,

1943
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 4: Can probation all the time, and he would go in

1944
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 4: and he would do it with a towel on his weight,

1945
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 4: and then he'd have a pencil right like here so

1946
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 4: he could leverage himself up.

1947
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 7: Huh.

1948
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 4: Yes, he could lean on it and lift it up

1949
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 4: and he would fucking make it. They caught him like

1950
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 4: three times. Cannon used to have to he was in

1951
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 4: fact camp like his whole career.

1952
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 14: It's a it's it's a grime, bro, because people don't

1953
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 14: really realize it's like, man, once coach sets this, you

1954
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 14: know coach had just coach up either, No, that is

1955
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 14: your weight. So my four years in New England, I

1956
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 14: played it two twenty. But Bro, I never was like

1957
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 14: a top end guy. I never had like breakaway speed,

1958
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 14: so I always prided myself on living by five yards

1959
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 14: of carry. Like if I get five yards every time

1960
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 14: I touch his pill, that's halfway to a first down.

1961
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 14: I can bang it out with whoever DB's safeties. I

1962
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 14: used to hit those motherfuckers like speed bumps, Bro, Like

1963
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 14: I wasn't even worried about I was just downhill with it.

1964
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 14: But once you got to the league and you had

1965
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 14: to lose that weight, you know you became more of

1966
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 14: a pro, you know what I mean. And so Bill

1967
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,640
Speaker 14: went back and after we didn't get the negotiation the

1968
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 14: first time, I think it was about halfway through the season,

1969
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 14: I'm like, coach, can I get a couple pounds? Give

1970
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 14: me a little bit here there? He still didn't lighten up.

1971
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 14: But it was just like I learned to respect that, bro,

1972
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 14: don't question just do you know what I mean? Because

1973
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:38,600
Speaker 14: it made me a hell of a running back, It

1974
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 14: really did, and I would have never been there. I

1975
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 14: never even thought about playing that light because I didn't

1976
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 14: think I had to pop behind my pads to be

1977
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 14: a first and second down back and a short yardage

1978
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 14: back like I was. But I was wrong. I can

1979
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 14: say that.

1980
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 4: He's probably at that point in his career seeing about

1981
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 4: a thousand a year.

1982
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 14: Yes, yes, correct, And that's the weight.

1983
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 1: That he wants to me. He's in the them all.

1984
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 14: You know. I brought that. I brought that Southern flair

1985
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 14: to the locker room, you know what I mean, Like

1986
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 14: we believe coming out of LSU, man, it was like,

1987
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 14: you look good, you play good. You gotta be swagged out,

1988
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 14: you know what I mean. You got to have some

1989
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 14: good tunes and have the energy going. So I used

1990
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 14: to pull up the game day and the hummer you

1991
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 14: know what I mean, subs going beating the block down,

1992
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 14: holler at my people at the game, Oh what's up.

1993
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 14: And it was just always do a donut in there

1994
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 14: for the crowd. Hey that's another story too.

1995
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 5: Man.

1996
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 14: Hey remember when we had the big snows. You don't remember,

1997
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 14: So we had the big snow store.

1998
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were all just ripping donuts in the parking

1999
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 4: lot to the parking lot, and I do that every

2000
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 4: snow crashed in the markets cannon, did you before the game?

2001
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 4: Before the game, we're out there just going up before

2002
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 4: a game. I do like on a Friday when there's

2003
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:44,759
Speaker 4: no one in there.

2004
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 14: I think it was like before. I want to say

2005
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 14: it was before the game because we had the snows.

2006
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 14: When we're taking those back roads you know where you

2007
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 14: go through Foxboro. You know you had the little houses

2008
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 14: and everybody was like lived next to each other. So

2009
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 14: it's like a caravan. All the boys are taking the

2010
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 14: back roads to get to the stadium. So I see

2011
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 14: this parking lot that hadn't been hitting, no trip the track,

2012
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 14: and there I'm like fresh powder, whip it right right there.

2013
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:06,560
Speaker 14: In the hummer and there I go, I'm smashing on it.

2014
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 14: But they said doing donuts out there. And the funny

2015
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,520
Speaker 14: thing is, I remember it clear as day Wes Welker's

2016
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 14: house in the backyard and cannon, I'll do a donuts

2017
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 14: out there, And all of a sudden, you see Walking's

2018
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:22,759
Speaker 14: cannon come over the hill and his Toyota tundra ramped

2019
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 14: over the hill and he's got pipes on his and

2020
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 14: he's like ah, and we're spinning out there and hitting it,

2021
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 14: just having a blast, until of course we lose control

2022
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 14: and I hit cannon and boom, smack it. And when

2023
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 14: I smacked it, I looked over and I swear you

2024
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 14: see the blind slide over like this, and Wes stuck

2025
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 14: his head out there and he was like, oh, y'all

2026
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 14: fucking idiots. He just closed the bones and went on

2027
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 14: by his business. Because I really want to say it

2028
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,760
Speaker 14: was either like before gave were after that. But I

2029
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 14: remember seeing West the big old blue eyes, you know

2030
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 14: what I'm saying, Like he's looking out the blinds. It's like, man,

2031
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 14: who I didn't know if it was a neighborhood of West, Like, oh,

2032
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 14: y'all are fucking idiots. Dude that it was funny, but hey,

2033
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 14: we're having a good time. But that was that was

2034
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 14: our Foxborough days.

2035
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 4: So basically that story just told me that when Bill

2036
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 4: tells us before training camp, don't drive like a fucking

2037
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 4: idiot in Foxborough, he was talking to you.

2038
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 14: He was talking about me.

2039
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 1: Okay, he was talking about me. He was verb my

2040
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 1: rookie year.

2041
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 4: My welcome to the NFL moment was like I was

2042
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 4: rolling in like my uh my Toyota rental, and I

2043
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 4: park it in the way back of the players a lot,

2044
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:32,719
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, there's this fucking huge semi

2045
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 4: a fucking semi truck rolls in and parks up right

2046
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 4: in the front and takes like two damn spots.

2047
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 1: Backs in.

2048
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 4: Backs in this big ass orange semi truck. It's fucking

2049
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 4: Vince's daily driver. Vin'ce had like a huge semi truck

2050
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 4: daily driver. He gets out of thinking and it looked

2051
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 4: just like him in front of the barbecue, just a

2052
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 4: comfort zone for him. Just a big ass dude getting

2053
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 4: out of a big ass truck. Big v was just

2054
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 4: fucking so cool. That was like my first welcome bed

2055
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:05,560
Speaker 4: and I was like, holy shit, I don't even know

2056
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:06,919
Speaker 4: you can buy some of my trucks.

2057
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of welcome to the NFL, he gave me

2058
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 2: my Welcome to the NFL dosage of a hit Wooing

2059
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 2: training camp rookie year.

2060
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 1: You know the wham block explained where they.

2061
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 3: Let go the guy let go.

2062
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 2: That's the just defensive tackle free, so then he thinks

2063
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,679
Speaker 2: he's gonna go get a sack. And then the wham

2064
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 2: block is when I come across the line of scrimmage

2065
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 2: at the tight end position, when I'm off the ball

2066
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:33,600
Speaker 2: and I'm the one that goes, and I wham the defensive.

2067
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 1: Tackle and try to block on a trap for this

2068
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: tight end.

2069
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 2: There you go exactly and we're trapping the defensive tackle,

2070
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 2: so he knows it's coming. I mean, this is a

2071
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 2: specialty play that the New England Patriots been.

2072
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,560
Speaker 1: Running nine nine seven. They know the fucking script.

2073
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 2: Well well before me, yeah it is. It was it

2074
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 2: wasn't nine nine to seven. So yeah, the defense does

2075
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 2: know the script so they can look really good in

2076
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 2: the run game throughout that whole period. And I think

2077
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 2: they also told him this play was coming, uh being

2078
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 2: tifically knowing I'm on a black Vince and they wanted

2079
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:05,639
Speaker 2: to see my toughness as a rookie. So the play

2080
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 2: is called I'm in full pass. You know, I'm a

2081
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 2: wam block. I gotta show my toughness. I gotta show

2082
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,639
Speaker 2: my keeps. I gotta get the respect of my fellow teammates,

2083
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 2: especially the veterans.

2084
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 4: Wait, let me paint the picture. Also, Rob's a rookie here.

2085
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 4: VI was like the big dog on campus. In practice.

2086
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 4: No one really gets close to him because you don't

2087
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 4: want to piss him off. When you're new, you know,

2088
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 4: it's like, holy shit, is that a that is a

2089
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 4: large human being. He's like so big. I think there's

2090
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 4: like something that orbits him, Like on how round he is?

2091
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 4: Like that's you didn't want to get in his way.

2092
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 4: You didn't want to piss him off because he was

2093
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 4: very intimidating. Get back to your story.

2094
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 3: So the play, you know, gets on its way.

2095
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,839
Speaker 2: I do my little to you know, two side steps,

2096
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 2: you know on the motion, I'm running full speed right

2097
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 2: at Vin's well. For this guy peeks over to his left.

2098
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 2: He sees me coming. He has this grin on his face.

2099
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 2: Knowing was coming, he put his shoulder down. I'm going

2100
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:06,720
Speaker 2: full speed at him, and he gets that leverage and

2101
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 2: just tease off on me. I went flying backwards five

2102
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 2: to six yards. I didn't even land on my back.

2103
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 2: He sent me flying in the air where I landed

2104
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 2: on my.

2105
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: Feet still, Oh my god. Yeah, and that hit hurt

2106
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:21,759
Speaker 1: like a mother effort.

2107
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 2: But what's cool is I gained the respect to my

2108
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 2: teammates and my coach at that time, tight end coach,

2109
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 2: in that meeting that day when we went and reviewed

2110
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 2: the plarents. Brian Farrens, love you, Brian FARRENC. He's now

2111
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 2: at Iowa with his dad doing, you know, doing his thing,

2112
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 2: doing a good job. He goes, Yo, what were you

2113
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 2: thinking trying to block Vince Wolf. He goes, You're never

2114
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:42,639
Speaker 2: gonna do that again.

2115
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 3: I go, thank you, thank you. I go, I'll never

2116
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:46,719
Speaker 3: do it again.

2117
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 2: And ever since that day, you know, we had about

2118
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 2: five more of those calls and I just go up

2119
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 2: to him, I hug him. I didn't need to try

2120
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 2: to block him. It was just only going to get

2121
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 2: me hurt from there on out. Yeah, I just give

2122
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 2: him a hug like Vincena.

2123
01:34:58,080 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 3: No, it's the way I'm block.

2124
01:34:59,040 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 1: Man.

2125
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna be me like there's there's no

2126
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 2: reason to go through this motion of me getting thrown

2127
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 2: backwards again.

2128
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm gonna break a rib.

2129
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 2: He's so, he's so you love your ribs, and you're

2130
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 2: gonna you know, you'll probably eat him, yeah, and join

2131
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 2: him after with your barbecue sauce body.

2132
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 1: Oh my, that had to be so terrifying.

2133
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 3: It was, well at that time, it was he's.

2134
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 1: An intimidating guy like when you joined the team.

2135
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 2: To terrifying after that, because I was trying to, you know,

2136
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 2: gainer my keeps man like. I was trying to prove myself,

2137
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 2: so I didn't care who was in my way, and

2138
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 2: then I learned I.

2139
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 3: Do care who's in my way.

2140
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2141
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 2: When when it comes down to the NFL, you gotta

2142
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 2: that's when you learned on when to you know, take

2143
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,600
Speaker 2: your shots as someone and wan not to when to

2144
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:44,599
Speaker 2: block someone hard, when to kind of like just la

2145
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 2: box someone out as well, instead of trying to hit

2146
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 2: him full speak and you hit him full speed heads up.

2147
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:50,640
Speaker 2: They you know, they're way bigger than you. This is

2148
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 2: when you start learning the ins and out.

2149
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,639
Speaker 1: It's twenty sixteen high tower sack. What do you get

2150
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 1: on that?

2151
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 11: Yeah? I mean, same call. Isn't that crazy stackbacker left?

2152
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 11: Same quad talked about with Nikovic? It was the same call.

2153
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 11: But let me go back, So this is this is

2154
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 11: you so obviously, so we're't allowed of five down. We're playing,

2155
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 11: you know, really good offense. It's coming at as fast

2156
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 11: we're we're struggling on defense.

2157
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, this is one of the highest scoring offenses

2158
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 4: in the history of the league.

2159
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 11: Offensive MVP, best coordinator with Channy, you know, like coordinator

2160
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 11: of the Year everything. Yeah, lost, Okay, so coordinator the year,

2161
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 11: best off you know all this stuff.

2162
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 1: Right.

2163
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 11: So, so off the first half isn't going good. I'm

2164
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 11: trying to make adjustments. It's it's long. And then this

2165
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 11: is another one of those weird things.

2166
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 1: Right.

2167
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 11: So the night before the game, you know, we got

2168
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 11: extra time, so I'm like, hey, let's watch this game.

2169
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 11: Let's watch this game. Let's watch this game. So I

2170
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 11: had watched the Chargers game and I was like, I

2171
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 11: need to show this game. So it was the night

2172
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 11: before the game. I sat down with the defense and

2173
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,639
Speaker 11: I said, listen, I go, this this offense can score points.

2174
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 11: I go, but if we just play the game all

2175
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:58,760
Speaker 11: the way out, I go we'll be okay, look at

2176
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 11: this game. So the Chargers that year got down early,

2177
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 11: they got down big. But as you watched the Atlanta

2178
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 11: to Atlanta, as you watched the game, they just started

2179
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 11: chipping away second half, chipping away, chipping away, and then

2180
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 11: they scored, and then they stopped them, and then they

2181
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 11: turned the ball over and he got all the way

2182
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 11: down to the end of the game and the Chargers

2183
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 11: actually kicked the field go and won the game. It

2184
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:19,839
Speaker 11: came back from it was like it was a big deficity.

2185
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 7: It was good.

2186
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:22,719
Speaker 11: Kind of like I was like, I'm gonna show this game.

2187
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 11: So I remember, you know, before the the first half ended,

2188
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 11: I was like, all right, I need to we gotta

2189
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 11: go in this locker room. We got to remind everybody

2190
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 11: like we're okay here. Then other half of this game

2191
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 11: and we've we just saw on tape how they you know,

2192
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 11: there's a there's a window here. So we go in

2193
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 11: the locker room. First thing, you know, you do because

2194
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 11: the halftime is longer. I'm like, all right, everybody, do

2195
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 11: what you gotta do. Take a couple of seconds, and

2196
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 11: I just got the defense. I said, listen, here's what

2197
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,760
Speaker 11: we're gonna do. I'm like, Julio is ridiculous. Like, you know,

2198
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 11: we had the whole like, oh, he's injured. He can't

2199
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 11: play it off his right foot. He's only gonna be

2200
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 11: able to break left now. Yeah, no, he could break

2201
01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 11: wherever you wanted to. So we had to be cause

2202
01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 11: I was cheating alignments based on that injury information. I

2203
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 11: was like, don't worry about it, we're gonna And then again,

2204
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 11: you know, we meg the backside of cover two. We

2205
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 11: undercut him I think it was Logan and he reached

2206
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 11: up over the top of Logan and took the and

2207
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 11: I was like, oh shit, we got a problem. So yeah,

2208
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 11: So that was in the first half, was like first

2209
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 11: series of the game or whatever. So we go into

2210
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 11: the locker room and said, listen, we're going to all

2211
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 11: the red area calls. I said, I'm just I'm gonna

2212
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 11: we're gonna play the red area calls. These are the

2213
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 11: calls we're gonna do. Went through the staff, go back

2214
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 11: to the players, and I said, fellas, listen, I go,

2215
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 11: first of all, first half, here's the issues. This is

2216
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 11: what happened. I go, remember what we watched last night.

2217
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 11: I was like, the Charger game, I'm like we're going

2218
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 11: to come back and win this thing. I'm like, we

2219
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 11: are gonna be fine, Like we just go play every

2220
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 11: single down.

2221
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 7: We got it.

2222
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 11: Put ourselves in a hole, but we got to play

2223
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 11: every single snap. These are the calls we're gonna make.

2224
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 11: I go, you gotta believe right now because we're going

2225
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 11: to do this. And what was happening was Douran was

2226
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,600
Speaker 11: on the bike. You remember this, No Doiran was on

2227
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 11: the bike and he was trying to stay warm. And

2228
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 11: so I let the players, you know, I get down

2229
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:06,679
Speaker 11: my meeting and players going to the coaches, and Duran

2230
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 11: starts chirping. He starts chirping. He's like, we got it,

2231
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 11: like he just. I just And I was like you

2232
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 11: could feel the energy and you could feel the belief,

2233
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 11: and then all of a sudden, you come in and

2234
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 11: you're like we gotta go, and you start chirping with

2235
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 11: Duran and you guys are chirping back and forth, and

2236
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 11: the energy is building, and I remember walking out, I

2237
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 11: was like, holy, we're gonna win this game. And I

2238
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 11: just I just because I don't know where you came from.

2239
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 11: I don't know why you were on our side. And

2240
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 11: Duran was like chirping, and it was like you two

2241
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 11: are chirping at each other, and it was almost like

2242
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 11: I don't know if you were trying to pump us

2243
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 11: up or he was trying to pump you up or

2244
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 11: whatever it was, but it was just it built and

2245
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:45,679
Speaker 11: I was like. I walked down, I was like, holy shit,

2246
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 11: we're gonna win this game. And I told him before

2247
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 11: we went out, I said, here's what's gonna happen. We're

2248
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 11: gonna get a negative play. On the first run. They're

2249
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 11: gonna run the ball. I'm like, Hi, if they run

2250
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 11: it at you, this is a TfL. I'm like, if

2251
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 11: I first start down, they're not gonna throw. We're gonna

2252
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,680
Speaker 11: double over here. It's coming backside. It be three by one.

2253
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 11: You gotta make the play. Made the play on the backside.

2254
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,439
Speaker 11: So the very first yeares they had the ball TfL.

2255
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 11: On the first play, they run it to high. Third down,

2256
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:06,600
Speaker 11: they throw it to Eric was like third and long

2257
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 11: because we had put him in long yard situation. We

2258
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 11: break it up and coming side and I go, here

2259
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 11: we go, it's gonna happen. So we go through the

2260
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 11: game and what happened was the series. They're going left

2261
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 11: or right, so they're going that way in the end zone.

2262
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:21,640
Speaker 11: Second down run. Coleman is in the game. Coleman was

2263
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 11: the third down back. Freeman was early down back. So

2264
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 11: Coleman comes in, hands it off and I look and

2265
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 11: he's on the ground and he's injured, screwed up his ankle.

2266
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 11: And I remember watching. I was like, it's third down.

2267
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:35,559
Speaker 11: Coleman's out, and I clicked on. I said, hey, hi,

2268
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 11: I said, hi, listen, I said, Coleman's out. Freeman's in.

2269
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 11: I go, we're going stack back or left. I go,

2270
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 11: don't show it. I go walk late. I go, he'll

2271
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:43,799
Speaker 11: never see you. I go go get the ball, Scoop.

2272
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 11: We gotta score, bro, I go, you got this right now.

2273
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 11: I just it was one of those like Coleman got hurt.

2274
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 11: It clicked in my head. Freeman was in there, he

2275
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 11: was gonna miss the protection. Don't show it, walk up late.

2276
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,679
Speaker 11: We're coming right at him, and we're about to score.

2277
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:58,000
Speaker 11: We didn't score, We're gonna score. But I was like,

2278
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 11: I just so I'm on with high the whole time.

2279
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 11: I go wait, wait, wait, wait, And I can see

2280
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 11: the quarterback give freehim the mic point and I can

2281
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 11: see him scan correct because he's got the mic and

2282
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:10,559
Speaker 11: he's got scan and he sees high inside and then Hi,

2283
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 11: he goes outside. I go cool, all the way outside

2284
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 11: the bunch. He walked all the way outside the bunch

2285
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 11: and he comes ripping off the edge and I was like,

2286
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 11: I was like, no one even sees him and he

2287
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 11: stripped it. I think Branch recovered it.

2288
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2289
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 11: I was like, I thought, we're gonna scop the score.

2290
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:23,760
Speaker 11: But it was the same call as Rob. I called

2291
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 11: him twenty fourteen. Rob stopped him on the third and short,

2292
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 11: and it was just one of those things where it

2293
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 11: was like it just clicked in my head. It was like,

2294
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 11: Freeman's out. You know they're not. They're gonn screw up

2295
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 11: the third down protection. Let's go get him. So that

2296
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 11: was the turnover, which really then you know, now we're

2297
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 11: feeling it.

2298
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 1: Then we had the tree flowers side.

2299
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 11: So then later in the game, now they're driving, they

2300
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 11: throw Julio's right there, he and I was who I

2301
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:48,679
Speaker 11: was with Julio last year. He's like the best right,

2302
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 11: And I was like, bro, how far out abound did

2303
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 11: you reach? The little ball is literally ten yards out

2304
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:55,719
Speaker 11: of bound? Its ridiculous, right, it's I'm in the coaches,

2305
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 11: it's past me, and he catches this thing, and everyone

2306
01:41:58,160 --> 01:41:59,599
Speaker 11: on the headside it's like he's out. He's out him,

2307
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 11: like literally his feet. I'm like, he's not out. I'm like,

2308
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,640
Speaker 11: he just caught it. So now they're in field goal

2309
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 11: range and I was like, oh my god. So I'm like, hey,

2310
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 11: dev like we got a blitz, so get the TfL.

2311
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 11: And so now it's second along.

2312
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 7: So everyone's like.

2313
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 11: They're gonna run it again. They're gonna run it again,

2314
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 11: and some of my I was like, they're not gonna

2315
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 11: run it, They're gonna throw And then and I'm arguing.

2316
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 11: I'm arguing on the headsets with Bill. He's like, they're

2317
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 11: gonna rune it. I'm like, they're not gonna run it.

2318
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 11: I'm like, they're the quarterback of the year. I get

2319
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 11: off in the corner of the year. Like they're throwing

2320
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 11: the ball at the place, like they're gonna throw it again,

2321
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 11: like they're they're gonna get in their own way here.

2322
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,640
Speaker 11: I'm like, I'm so I called. I actually called a

2323
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 11: three man rush because I wanted to have max coverage,

2324
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 11: but it was a five down look. But as they

2325
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 11: lined up I look and now I've got one. I

2326
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 11: got Gieball's great shirt. He's on the outside. But now

2327
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 11: I'm like, oh shit, it's the wheel route. I'm like, oh,

2328
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 11: I'm like, this is about I'm freaking out because I'm like,

2329
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 11: this is about to be a touchdown. And so sure enough,

2330
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 11: back I think it was Freeman. He releases. I see

2331
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 11: Gaball he's peeling on the wheel. I was like, oh my, like,

2332
01:42:57,200 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 11: here we go. And Trey just because I put him

2333
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 11: on the nose because of his quickness in his length

2334
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 11: and I knew that they would struggle. Yeah, he had

2335
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:05,600
Speaker 11: the ankle, and I knew he was gonna struggle with

2336
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 11: the redirect and Tray's arms for so long he could

2337
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:09,640
Speaker 11: get into you, and he was skinny, and he just

2338
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 11: skinned through. And he gets in and he saxsmon and

2339
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 11: I was like, he's I mean saved. So then what

2340
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 11: happens is on that play, so that one or the

2341
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 11: next one high Tower he's on I think it was

2342
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 11: long on the other side, and High Tower gets held

2343
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 11: totally buried and they didn't call it. And I see

2344
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 11: Hi talking the official and I was like, they're gonna

2345
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 11: holding I was like, so I stir down, so I'm like, hey, hi, hi,

2346
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 11: go again. So he rushes again, flag comes out. I

2347
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:40,640
Speaker 11: was like pushing him back and before I'm like, I

2348
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:42,600
Speaker 11: don't know how the hell like he just like you

2349
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:46,559
Speaker 11: just see that stuff. So then you know again, the

2350
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 11: whole thing was they weren't in control of the game.

2351
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 11: We were controlling the game. We were running. We were

2352
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 11: stopping the run now and now we got to cover

2353
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 11: a kick and those Slate those guys made an unboile.

2354
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 11: They pin him deep late in the game, and I

2355
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 11: remember clicking on we stopped him on first time. Remember

2356
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 11: clicking on the bill, and I go, hey, We're about

2357
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 11: to win the Super Bowl, and the craziest rule that

2358
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:06,800
Speaker 11: no one's ever seen before. I'm like, be ready for

2359
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 11: a free kick because I was like, if they don't

2360
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 11: get any more yardage, we're gonna fair catch this thing

2361
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 11: and we're gonna we're gonna win the Super Bowl. It's

2362
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 11: gonna be crazy. I think they got like seven put

2363
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 11: us out, just out of it, you know, they kicked

2364
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:16,679
Speaker 11: it out.

2365
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 4: And saying I was thinking walk off because I went

2366
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,639
Speaker 4: down to return the punt. Yeah, I was sitting there

2367
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 4: like all right, man, if I fucking walked this off

2368
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 4: man the.

2369
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 11: Unbelievable. So so then you know, we go to overtime.

2370
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 1: We tried some ship. Remember we tried the game cock.

2371
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 11: Bro, I mean blues hamstring. It was it was like

2372
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 11: that was so bad.

2373
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 4: Game Dog was like the annexation of Puerto Rico play

2374
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 4: for us like.

2375
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 1: A bumble.

2376
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 11: Fake Neil hand it over and fucking that was a

2377
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 11: crazy game.

2378
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:49,639
Speaker 7: That was crazy.

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Speaker 11: So then we win. Yeah, it's bananas. I'm so we

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Speaker 11: go through all the sale I get on the bus right,

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Speaker 11: so I get on the bus. Tom He's in the back.

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Speaker 11: It's Josh, Laura, myself, Raina, Bill, Tommy's in the back,

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Speaker 11: and I'm literally like did we win? Like I don't

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Speaker 11: even know what happened? And Josh is looking at me

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Speaker 11: and goes, hey, bro, he goes, I didn't. I didn't

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Speaker 11: see any of the defense. I didn't see one play

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Speaker 11: at the offense. It was because every series was like

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Speaker 11: this has to go right then this so your catch.

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Speaker 11: I didn't see that till the next day. I was like,

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Speaker 11: I didn't see any of any of that happened during

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Speaker 11: the game, And Josh was like, what happened to you?

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Speaker 11: And I'm like, bro, we got the stackback or left call.

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Speaker 11: He's like, you should just catch Julian Maid. And then

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Speaker 11: we ran this and Josh and are trying to fill

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Speaker 11: each other in because I'm like, I don't even know

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Speaker 11: if we won and Bill. Bill turns around and he's like, hey, look,

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Speaker 11: he goes, Listen, he goes. You know, we got to

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Speaker 11: play these guys next year. It's probably gonna be like

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Speaker 11: the first game of the year. They'll probably do that.

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Speaker 11: When we get back. Let's make sure we write down.

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Speaker 7: Like what was good.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know if we won.

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Speaker 14: Bill.

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Speaker 11: I'm like, literally on the bus, I'm like, what are

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Speaker 11: you talking about right now?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, it was like holy.

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Speaker 11: Josh and I just looked at your start laughing. I

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Speaker 11: was like, what are you talking about. I don't even

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Speaker 11: if we won the game.

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