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<v Speaker 1>You are entering the freedom hunt. The Trump administration is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make a change to immigration policy that would

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<v Speaker 1>accomplish what we've been told has been happening all along.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are no public charges who are coming into

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<v Speaker 1>this country will break down? Why the Libs are freaking

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<v Speaker 1>out about that? Plus a major showdown underway between Hong

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<v Speaker 1>Kong protesters there and the Chinese mainland government. Is this

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<v Speaker 1>a moment where freedom will win out or will it

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<v Speaker 1>be crushed? We've got that, Plus updates on the Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>case coming up on The buck Sexton Show. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the buck Sexton Show where the mission or mission is

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<v Speaker 1>to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. Make no

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<v Speaker 1>mistake America, You're a great American Again, the buck Sexton

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<v Speaker 1>Show begins. Remember would you also do that? M Allowzarus's

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<v Speaker 1>words etched on the Statue of Liberty, give me you're tired,

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<v Speaker 1>your poor are also part of the American eCos. They

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<v Speaker 1>certainly are give me you're tired and you're poor. Who

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<v Speaker 1>can stand on their own two feet and who will

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<v Speaker 1>not become a public charge That that plaque was put

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<v Speaker 1>on the Statue of Liberty at almost the same time

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<v Speaker 1>as the first public charge, whiways passed. Very interesting timing.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show, where we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>things that actually matter instead of what the news cycle

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes wants us all to talk about. Yes, yes, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>later on, because I'm sure some of you might be

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<v Speaker 1>a bit curious, we are going to have Jesse Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>and Sean Parnell, my friends, both of them step into

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<v Speaker 1>the thunderdome to you know, to men enter, one man

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<v Speaker 1>leaves situation just kidding. They love each other too, to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the Chris Cuomo bro Cuomo getting very upset

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<v Speaker 1>Fredo Gate. Perhaps we could call it that now, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the Fredo debacle that storm social media. And some of

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<v Speaker 1>you are like, Buck, what are you talking about? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here to say, Look, it's later on in the show,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, I'll tell you about it then, because

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<v Speaker 1>it is not important interesting to talk interesting water cooler conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I almost said wine cooler conversation, but I haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>one of those in a long time. Although I did

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<v Speaker 1>try a white claw recently. Producer Mark, do not make

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<v Speaker 1>fun of me. It was pretty good. I love white claws.

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<v Speaker 1>See they're pretty delicious. I understand. It's like the new Zema,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's still pretty good. So everyone's focused on the

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<v Speaker 1>Tapper thing, I mean not Tapper things, sorry, different guy

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<v Speaker 1>Cuomo thing. Where there's video and we'll play the video

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<v Speaker 1>for you later. We'll have Jesse and Sean because they

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<v Speaker 1>have different opinions as to whether Cuomo handled us the

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<v Speaker 1>right way. It's interesting to talk about. It doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>matter what we came into at the top of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Does matter, which is the administration trying to change an

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<v Speaker 1>important component of immigration policy. And here's the short version

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Ken Cuccinelli is out there saying things like,

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<v Speaker 1>we invite people to come here and join us as

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<v Speaker 1>a privilege. Not everyone has the right to be an American.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very straightforward, you can say, very basic statement.

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<v Speaker 1>How could anyone be upset at that? Where's the problem

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<v Speaker 1>with that? Isn't our immigration system. Don't we have immigration

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<v Speaker 1>laws specifically so that we can control who comes into

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<v Speaker 1>this country, but as importantly make sure that those who

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<v Speaker 1>are coming into this country are brought in primarily for

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<v Speaker 1>the benefit of the people already here. That America does

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<v Speaker 1>not owe the world anything. We can make choices about

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<v Speaker 1>how many people from the rest of the world we

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<v Speaker 1>want to take in as immigrants, and that's why we

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<v Speaker 1>have immigration law. This is very fundamental, very basic stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>also very important because the left now has adopted a

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<v Speaker 1>position that any restrictions of any kind on immigration, any

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement of immigration laws, is more or less rooted in

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<v Speaker 1>white nationalism and hatred. Wow, that's been quite a shift

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<v Speaker 1>from even the Obama years, when the Obama administration was

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<v Speaker 1>deporting hundreds of thousands of people. Now we're told that

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<v Speaker 1>if you still think that that's a good idea, it

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<v Speaker 1>must be because of white nationalism. And the Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 1>has gone crazy fast. And one of the ways that

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<v Speaker 1>they've been able to go so crazy is by covering

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<v Speaker 1>up their progression into insanity on immigration issues with lie

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<v Speaker 1>after lie after lie. And here we see yet another

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<v Speaker 1>one where we have decided we are essentially going to

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<v Speaker 1>do what the administration is claiming, they're gonna do what's

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<v Speaker 1>already the law. They put out a statement, the White

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<v Speaker 1>Hospital of a statement saying the following, preserving the social

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<v Speaker 1>safety net, we must ensure that non citizens do not

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<v Speaker 1>abuse our public benefit programs and jeopardize the social safety

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<v Speaker 1>net needed by vulnerable Americans. And then they have data

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<v Speaker 1>points here large numbers of non citizens and their families

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<v Speaker 1>have taken advantage of our generous public benefits, limited resources

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<v Speaker 1>that could otherwise go to vulnerable Americans. Seventy eight percent

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<v Speaker 1>of households headed by a non citizen with no more

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<v Speaker 1>than a high school education use at least one welfare program.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty eight percent of all households headed by a non

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<v Speaker 1>citizen use at least one welfare program. So almost six

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<v Speaker 1>out of ten and half of all non citizen headed

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<v Speaker 1>households include at least one person who uses Medicaid. My friends,

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<v Speaker 1>this is already the law. It already says in our

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<v Speaker 1>immigration statutes that you are not to people are not

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to be a public charge, meaning to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the public dole if they're going to immigrate, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about legal immigrants to the country. It's not supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. This is of course not enforced. And what

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<v Speaker 1>would it mean to enforced. They would mean, okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to take away They're either going to say

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<v Speaker 1>you can't get a green card, or they'll take away

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<v Speaker 1>a green card if you continue to get public benefits. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this should be a pretty straightforward conversation, but we're always

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<v Speaker 1>being lied to by liberals. That's why I like talking

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<v Speaker 1>about immigration situation because I tell you the truth here

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<v Speaker 1>about it. You're being lied to by the by the

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<v Speaker 1>corporate mainstream media all the time on immigration constantly. How

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<v Speaker 1>many of you have heard just just think, just go

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<v Speaker 1>back in your own memory, how many of even heard, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>immigrants they pay more in in taxes than they take

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<v Speaker 1>out in benefits. They don't take any government benefits. They

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<v Speaker 1>they're the ones that are We hear this all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the ones keeping Social Security afloat. Okay, if this

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<v Speaker 1>is true, then what's the big problem with us saying

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<v Speaker 1>that the law which currently says you can't be a

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<v Speaker 1>public charge if you're going to be a legal immigrant

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<v Speaker 1>the United States? What's the problem with enforcing that If

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<v Speaker 1>all they're doing is keeping US afloat? Immigrants of all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds were always told are are better than Americans, right,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly illegal immigrants better than Americans. That's the Democrat talking point.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean better by you know, they do the

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<v Speaker 1>jobs that Americans won't do, they pay more in taxes

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<v Speaker 1>than they then they take out of the system and

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<v Speaker 1>all these other things. But if you cut off there,

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<v Speaker 1>if you threatened to cut off the benefits of the member.

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<v Speaker 1>The welfare benefits as what we're talking about, the welfare

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<v Speaker 1>benefits of immigrants in this country. You're a monster. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>which is it, folks, It can't be both. We are

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<v Speaker 1>being lied to on this issue, just like we're being

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<v Speaker 1>lied to on so many other components of immigration, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet Democrats are not held responsible for all these misrepresentations,

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<v Speaker 1>all these slogans that are just meant to be propaganda

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<v Speaker 1>to divert the American people from really knowing what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>The law is currently that you cannot be a welfare

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<v Speaker 1>case and come into this country as an immigrant. That is,

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<v Speaker 1>that is what the law is supposed to accomplish. It

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously not doing that. And I saw I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was was it? I forget it. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was David Horowitz, But I'm I'd have that I might

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<v Speaker 1>be confusing with someone else. Put this out on Twitter today,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know this, we invite people to come here

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<v Speaker 1>and join us as a privilege. Not everyone has a

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<v Speaker 1>right to be an American. That's what Ken Cuccinelli said

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<v Speaker 1>on an NPR radio show, and everyone on the left

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<v Speaker 1>freaked out about that, and they all point to the oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, quote, give me you're tired, and your

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<v Speaker 1>poor who can stand on their own two feet and

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<v Speaker 1>who will not become a public charge. That's the acting

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<v Speaker 1>US Citizenship and Immigration Services Director Ken Cucinelli talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this Trump administration policy, and also the poem which we're

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<v Speaker 1>always told about, this Mma Lazarus poem, which is attached

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<v Speaker 1>to the Statue of Liberty, as though that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the amendments of the Constitution. It's a poem at a

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<v Speaker 1>tourist attraction. It does not have the force of what

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean anything. It's for it's for school kids to

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<v Speaker 1>look at it and hopefully memorize so their teachers will

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<v Speaker 1>be happy with them. That's it. But Horowitz pointed this

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<v Speaker 1>out today. One year before Emma Lazarus's poem in the

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<v Speaker 1>Statue of Liberty, it Congress overwhelmingly passed the Immigration Act

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<v Speaker 1>of eighteen eighty two, barring any public charge from even

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<v Speaker 1>stepping foot on US soil, and the Act instructed Treasury

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<v Speaker 1>Official section two of it that if on such examination

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<v Speaker 1>there shall be found among such passengers any convict, lunatic, idiot,

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<v Speaker 1>or any person unable to take care of himself or

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<v Speaker 1>herself without becoming a public charge. Such persons shall not

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<v Speaker 1>be permitted to land. So this whole Oh, but what

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<v Speaker 1>about the Statue of Liberty and nation of immigrants? Then

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<v Speaker 1>also on. Until recently, it was just understood that we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to accept some immigrants and not others. And

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<v Speaker 1>is it a fair world we live in? No? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it fair that some people are born into crappy countries

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<v Speaker 1>other people get born into America? No, or even countries

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<v Speaker 1>that are just kind of okay, But people want to

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<v Speaker 1>be American because it's the best country. No, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of unfairness in the world. It's not fair that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not, you know, six five and jaw droppingly handsome.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of unfairness in the world. But that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that we can abandon the rule of law

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<v Speaker 1>because one political party feels good making a case about how, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>things are unfair. Therefore, let's just pretend that we can't

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<v Speaker 1>make rules about these things. This is I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is a more important story than anything else going on

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<v Speaker 1>to accept Hong Kong. Hong Kong protesters facing off with

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese government. We'll get into that in the second hour.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend Steve Yates, we'll be joining to discuss that.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of thoughts on it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>also we will as I mentioned, we'll get into you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Fredo Gate, Chris Cuomo being called Fredo. I've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>somebody in the media lose their cool as much as

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<v Speaker 1>he did. But you know, we'll have a lot. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you'll have different thoughts on this and opinions, and

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<v Speaker 1>we have both sides of it. Sean takes a well,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't spoil it. I'll let Champarnell and Jesse Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>address it themselves later on. We also have some follow

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<v Speaker 1>up on the Epstein case for you. So a varied

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<v Speaker 1>show today, going to cover a lot of ground, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of territory, as we always do. But there's also

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<v Speaker 1>another story that is in the realm of immigration and

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<v Speaker 1>more specifically immigration and custom enforcement customs enforcement that I

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<v Speaker 1>bet none of you, Hulton said, none of you, A

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<v Speaker 1>very small percentage of you have heard about because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not getting much media coverage at all, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>indicative of the enormous double standard about rhetoric and leading

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<v Speaker 1>to violent action. I will tell you what it is

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<v Speaker 1>in just a moment. Stay with me. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to establish before I tell you about this news store

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<v Speaker 1>were still getting updates on that. All last week. We

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<v Speaker 1>were told by some of the wealthiest, most prominent, biggest

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<v Speaker 1>platformed individuals in the media and the Democratic Party that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's rhetoric led to violence. That's what they were saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Trump's fault. What happened in El Paso. They

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<v Speaker 1>made Dayton just fade out very quickly, didn't they? The

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<v Speaker 1>leftist who supported Elizabeth Warren, who was all about socialist

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<v Speaker 1>policies of one kind or another, that that didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>get much attention at all. It did it El Paso though,

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<v Speaker 1>That was Trump's fault. That was the talking point for

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<v Speaker 1>the week. That was the narrative, that was the storyline.

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<v Speaker 1>If you wanted to get on TV at CNN, MSNBC,

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<v Speaker 1>just say that Trump had blood on his hands in

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<v Speaker 1>one way or another. That's what they were saying, was

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<v Speaker 1>directly responsible for the violence. That was the message. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the propaganda effort last week. Okay, how many of

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<v Speaker 1>you have heard that in San Antonio, Texas police had

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<v Speaker 1>to make an arrest because somebody fired off rounds into

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<v Speaker 1>an Ice Immigrations and Customs Enforcement building there. Why isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that getting more attention? Oh, because I wonder when they

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<v Speaker 1>finally get to a question this suspect. They have one

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<v Speaker 1>suspect and custody. I'm not sure if they think they

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<v Speaker 1>if they know they have the right guy yet or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, everyone's presumed innocence until proven guilty. But I

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<v Speaker 1>would wonder if this individual would say that he fired

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<v Speaker 1>off rounds into a there were people in it, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, there were people in the facility, fired bullets

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<v Speaker 1>through the window of a federal law enforcement building. If

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<v Speaker 1>it was because he had heard from prominent the most

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<v Speaker 1>prominent Democrats really in the country that ICE was operating

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<v Speaker 1>the equivalent of Holocaust concentration camps, because that's what AOC

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<v Speaker 1>had said, which would make the people working for Immigration

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<v Speaker 1>and Customs enforcement morally on the same plane as Nazi

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<v Speaker 1>prison guards at the concentration camps. And if somebody really

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<v Speaker 1>believed that, and remember, she's never apologized, they've doubled down

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<v Speaker 1>on it, they haven't walked away from that unbelievably reckless,

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<v Speaker 1>stupid slander. I wonder how many people in the country

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<v Speaker 1>hear that and think that they are righteous if they

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<v Speaker 1>take action against the government. There has been a series

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<v Speaker 1>of events folks and Washington Examiner pull them together. You

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<v Speaker 1>had last month protesters with Never Again blocked the entrances

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<v Speaker 1>to ICE's national headquarters in Washington. D C. Okay blocked

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<v Speaker 1>the entrance. I mean, that's not as serious as some

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<v Speaker 1>of these other things, but it's there's an escalating effect here.

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<v Speaker 1>In July, police in Tacoma, Washington had to fatally shoot

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<v Speaker 1>an armed man after he hurled molotov cocktails at an

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<v Speaker 1>Immigration Customs enforce in building trying to set the propane

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<v Speaker 1>tanks alike I believe, blow up the building. Also in July,

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<v Speaker 1>a group of protesters in Aurora, Colorado, took down an

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<v Speaker 1>American flag and two other flags from outside an ICE facility,

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<v Speaker 1>raised a Mexican flag and a defaced thin blue line

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<v Speaker 1>flag commemorating law enforcement. This is hostility to federal law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 1>in some cases violent felonious criminal hostility to federal law enforcement. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I just would like to know, before anything terrible does

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<v Speaker 1>happen here, is this in fact? Is this in fact

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<v Speaker 1>a standard that will be applied by the Democrats on

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<v Speaker 1>their side of things? Are we going to hear them say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what AOC and the rest of these Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>out there, including many of the Democrats who are running

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<v Speaker 1>for president right now, they need to tone it down.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to stop saying terrible things about immigration and

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<v Speaker 1>cust enforcement, saying that it's humane, we're locking children in cages.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe it's still sitting on the bill Marshow

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<v Speaker 1>recently I had the former governor of Michigan start shrieking

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<v Speaker 1>at me, kids in cages, kids in cages. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even I wasn't even talking about to tension at the board.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to talk about paying for healthcare for

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<v Speaker 1>illegal aliens. But it's just But that's the point, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is that now anytime a anytime a lib here's you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about immigration, they've just been programmed as they kids

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<v Speaker 1>in cages, kids in cages. Okay, what about what about

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<v Speaker 1>rule of law? What about deporting MS thirteen gang members?

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<v Speaker 1>Healthcare for illegal aliens? How expensive will that be? What

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<v Speaker 1>will how will that tax the current healthcare system? What

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<v Speaker 1>does it mean for schools? And they have to devote

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<v Speaker 1>a huge proportion of their resources to English as a

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<v Speaker 1>second language training because of recent arrivals under the asylum rules.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just normal questions you'd want to discuss in

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<v Speaker 1>a society that you hope to be functional and well ordered.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at a lot of liberal Democrats now a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of leftists, and they just they look at you this,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a very You raise a very interesting point about

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<v Speaker 1>what it will do if we start paying for healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>for illegal aliens out of the treasury, which is money

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<v Speaker 1>taken from citizens. But kids in cages, kids in cages,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all you're gonna hear, that's the response. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>they need. What's going to happen When we ask democrats

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<v Speaker 1>if there is a terrible, infinite an ICE facility, which

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<v Speaker 1>looks like it's just a matter of time, Now, what

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<v Speaker 1>are they going to tell us if something happens kids

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<v Speaker 1>in cages? I think so. Also, first of all, I

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<v Speaker 1>never said that of the raiges you call we're focused

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<v Speaker 1>on violent criminals. I've never said that. And also I

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<v Speaker 1>think words matter. These aren't raids. These are targeted in

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement operations, and in this case, this was a

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<v Speaker 1>joint criminal investigation with ICE and the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>targeting work site enforcement, meaning companies that knowingly and willfully

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<v Speaker 1>hire illegal aliens so that in most cases they can

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<v Speaker 1>pay them reduced wages exploit them further for their bottom line.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what this investigation was about, a criminal investigation, Jake.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Morgan slapping down some of Jake Tapper's propaganda. There

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<v Speaker 1>another guy, you know, lives in a mansion and wants

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<v Speaker 1>to lecture the rest of America about how we're not

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<v Speaker 1>welcoming enough. We've taken a million immigrants a year legally

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<v Speaker 1>and are going to have close to a million illegal

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<v Speaker 1>immigrants from just Central America alone this year. But we

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<v Speaker 1>all need the constant lecture from the CNN, the CNN

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<v Speaker 1>live millionaires about how we're just not open minded enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's any objection to the current immigration situation and

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement of the laws. It's based in white nationalism. Mark Morgan,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a guy's running ice. He's right, running sorry BECAU

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<v Speaker 1>border control, whatever it is. He's right. Words do matter.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why I refuse to say undocumented, although I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if at some point I'll be in a place

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<v Speaker 1>where they'll just mandate that I have to say it

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<v Speaker 1>or else. That's what the Libs always do. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>it's suggested you use their terminology and then it's you

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<v Speaker 1>better say this or else. Just like with the pronouns,

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<v Speaker 1>the transgender fights all that stuff, they don't leave it

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<v Speaker 1>to your discretion. They want to control the language. But

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<v Speaker 1>he also brought up there what I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>very bipartisan issue of sensitivity, which is that you have

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<v Speaker 1>these employers who are exploiting, exploiting illegal aliens and paying

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<v Speaker 1>them below what the wages are they should. And keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind, if they're paying them off the books, then

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<v Speaker 1>these employers are getting a competitive advantage versus those who

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<v Speaker 1>are legally employing individuals. And you might say, oh, buck, well,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that what the market will bear now? Because guess

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<v Speaker 1>what all the social costs of illegal immigrants in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>all the things we're talking before, being a public charge,

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<v Speaker 1>welfare benefits, and all the rest of it that they

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<v Speaker 1>voice that onto the general public, and they just pay

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<v Speaker 1>them very very low wages and they're and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the illegals are just happy to be here getting

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<v Speaker 1>those wages because they know that the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>benefits of being in America come along with just being

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<v Speaker 1>in America. So I mean to call them raids. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're hearing these stories they make it sound like Ice

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<v Speaker 1>is busting through doors with flash bangs and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>firing warning shots with MP fives everywhere, just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>freak everybody out. They're showing up as a law enforcement operation,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're saying, Okay, who is here legally? Who is

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<v Speaker 1>here illegally? We're going to enforce the law. But the

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<v Speaker 1>liberal media cheers against law enforcement. The liberal media cheers

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<v Speaker 1>against every aspect of law enforcement except for investigations of

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, and those are sacro sancte. The only law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement officials that I have heard in recent years anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in the elite media in favor of are those who

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<v Speaker 1>are deep state coup plotters against Donald Trump. Any other

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of law enforcement, local law enforce and immigrations and

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<v Speaker 1>customs enforcement, you know, cops, border patrol. Libs can't stand them,

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<v Speaker 1>can't stand them. Think they're racist, Think they're bad, think

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<v Speaker 1>they're thugs. Just look at what Warren and Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 1>said about about Officer Wilson up in Ferguson, formerly of

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<v Speaker 1>the Ferguson Police Department, to leave his job, lying about

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<v Speaker 1>him being a murderer. Just pandering, just pandering. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we expect from libs lots and lots of pandering.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, as an assign here, I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to say, welcome to one of our newest affiliates here,

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<v Speaker 1>w r aw in Reading Pennsylvania. So if you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>on w thank you so much for tuning in. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Team Buck, Welcome to the Freedom Hunt. Now. I

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<v Speaker 1>did tell you all that later on in the show

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<v Speaker 1>we would address is it Fredo Gate or Cuomo Gate

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever we're calling it now, which is it's fun

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about, although it's not an important story. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to spend the next hour much more in depth

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<v Speaker 1>on Hong Kong, China. Steve Yates, who he's a Mandarin speaker,

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<v Speaker 1>spend a ton of time in China and Taiwan and

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and it was a policy expert in this

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<v Speaker 1>region for many, many years working for the government. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's someone that I think you should hear

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<v Speaker 1>from on this. But later on in the show we

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<v Speaker 1>will get into what happened with Chris Cuomo. I did

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<v Speaker 1>want to just before we get there, I'll play the

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<v Speaker 1>clip for you where he's going completely bonkers on this

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<v Speaker 1>guy that a costed him in public which is not cool,

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<v Speaker 1>but we do have. The whole problem was they called

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<v Speaker 1>him Fredo. They called Chris Cuomo, a brother of New

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<v Speaker 1>York's governor, um Andrew Cuomo. The guy who talks like

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<v Speaker 1>this on this show is his brother. Don't call my

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<v Speaker 1>little brother Fredo. It makes him very, very met which means,

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<v Speaker 1>of course we're all gonna call him Fredo now. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's this dispute over whether or not it's an ethnic

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<v Speaker 1>slur to call him Italian person Fredo. Here's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>C N used the term Fredo on air to make

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<v Speaker 1>fun of people for being the wayward family member quite frequently.

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<v Speaker 1>Play clip two, Fredo, he's from the Godfather Here was

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<v Speaker 1>a weak brothers Italian okay, Saltan people people's word for us, Lenny.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he kind of makes Don Junior to be

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<v Speaker 1>Fredo and godfather too. It was Michael Flynn, Don Corleone

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<v Speaker 1>or at Rofia fam where run by Michael Corleone or

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<v Speaker 1>one run by his weakling brother Fredo. Look, Devin Nudez,

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<v Speaker 1>he's privy himself again and again to be the Fredo

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<v Speaker 1>of the Republican Party. Cruelly compare Donald Trump Junior to

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<v Speaker 1>Fredo Corleone vivately refers to President Trump's son in law

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Kushner as Fredo, right, because Bennet has broke my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Fredo so is just the Cuomo. This is a preface

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<v Speaker 1>because later on we'll get into this in more detail.

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<v Speaker 1>Cuomo's contention at CNN backed him up and use the

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<v Speaker 1>term ethnic slur is that Fredo's an ethnic slur. CNN

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<v Speaker 1>uses it all the time. So this is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit apart from the ethics of how to confront somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who's being rude to you in public for no reason.

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<v Speaker 1>But just remember that Fredo is not an ethnic slur.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not up for debate. We've got more coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Team stay with me, Yes going out for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time episode, and I know it's under investigation by his

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<v Speaker 1>journey General Bart. I'm sure you're gonna be handling again

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<v Speaker 1>the Reek, which is why I was from somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>very respected to gernat abundance. So I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>fun Yew. Basically, what we're zegas do you want an investigation?

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<v Speaker 1>I want a full investigation. That's what I absolutely ever demanded.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what our attorney general, our great Attorney general, is

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<v Speaker 1>doing he's doing a full investigation. You really think that

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton turn called the Epidas death. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he was going to plane twenty seven times,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said he was on the plane four times.

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<v Speaker 1>But when they checked the plane love Bill Clinton, who

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<v Speaker 1>was a very good friend of Epistein, he was on

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<v Speaker 1>the plane about twenty seven or twenty eight times. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to drop the Epstein case, Attorney General Barr

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<v Speaker 1>says he's not going to drop the Epstein case. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see if we can get some more answers here. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the president speaking in front of marine one. I

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<v Speaker 1>do wish that the president would I don't could they

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<v Speaker 1>have him turned down the engines or something. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>that some of that audio. I just like to share

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<v Speaker 1>the what we call the news actuality from the day,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can hear the president himself, but not audio quality.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to get them to tone those those jet

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<v Speaker 1>engines or the helicopter rotors, whatever it is, tone it

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<v Speaker 1>down a little bit. So that's I think an aside.

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<v Speaker 1>We could both push that aside for a second. A

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<v Speaker 1>few things in what he said here. One he doubles

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<v Speaker 1>down on this tweet, saying the tweet that he shared

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<v Speaker 1>about how maybe the Clintons were involved, we didn't really know.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, that's the that's the president. Sometimes he's a

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<v Speaker 1>little ambish, you know. Sometimes the President likes to just

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<v Speaker 1>poke people a bit. And I know some of you

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<v Speaker 1>probably find it very amusing. Some of you probably think

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<v Speaker 1>it's absolutely crazy that he does that. But that's something

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>that really does happen. Where the president decides that he's

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>just gonna troll I think is what the what the

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>kids called, He's gonna troll people. But then he also

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>brought up something that I tweeted about today. And even

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>though the President was going to bring this up or no,

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I tweeter about in response the President bringing

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>it up, but I didn't know that it was going

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>to come up today. And that is the number of

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:13.880
<v Speaker 1>times that Bill Clinton was on Epstein's plane, his official

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the Clinton spokesperson. That's got to be quite a job.

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.360
<v Speaker 1>You got to shovel a lot of stuff around there.

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>The official spokesperson had said that it was four times,

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and the President went out and said it was twenty seven.

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I brought this up. I feel like this should be

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>an issue where we have absolute clarity and there's been

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 1>some dueling numbers out there. What I've been told by

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>other journals or I'm not a journal, but by journals,

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>is that it was four trips with a total of

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven legs different flights. Now to this, I say,

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>those must have been some trips. You got seven flights

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>per trip? I mean, you know how many places are

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>we really going here? What are these trips? Four? That's

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 1>one quick observation about this. Another one is, well, if

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>it's twenty seven flights, why not just say twenty seven flights?

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Because if that's what it is, that's what it is.

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>To say four trips, that to me seems like they're

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to downplay the amount of time that Bill Clinton

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>spent with this man, because if if you're talking about,

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, when people bring up a flight, it does

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 1>make a difference at least if you're thinking about what

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of association they had. Hey are you going to DC?

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to DC. We're in Palm Beach hop on

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>my plane. That's one thing. Hey are you you want

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>to come with me to Tokyo and we're gonna make

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:44.719
<v Speaker 1>six stops on the way. I'm not saying he went

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 1>to Tokyo. But wherever they went, that's a different thing.

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>That's a greater level of familiarity and friendship that Clinton

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and Epstein would have had. So I just would like

0:29:54.680 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>more more clarity on that. Trump think that there's something

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 1>up here for sure, And I can tell all these

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>libs try to tie Trump into this stuff. But as

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I've said, he's the only one that before before the

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of democles of all the information and all the

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>evidence came down on Epstein's neck, which it should have

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>long before it happened. Before that happened and he was

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>finally prosecuted, Trump was the one who said, get out

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>of my club. You're a sicko, you're a weirdo, and

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll waant you here now. I also so we need

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>clarity on the flights and what happened there. Then there's

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>another thing, what is the reality of Epstein's funds, his

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>money and all this other stuff. I don't know if

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>we're ever going to find out. I think that he

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>was very adept at hiding money, hiding funds. We'll find

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>out some stuff, but I mean, there's no way this

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>guy was a great money manager. The one thing that

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I saw was he invested. I think he invested in

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>some fund that lost forty or fifty million dollars. I mean,

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>this guy was not some ace investor, all right. He

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't make all of his money by making great calls,

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>no way. So how did he make his money? Well,

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a vanity Fair piece, and usually I

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't psyche Vanity Fair here about. Sometimes they write interesting

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>stuff and this is how it opened. And then I

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>want to dive into this with you a little bit.

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Is it possible prosecutors have lost track of Geelane Maxwell,

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein's alleged co conspirator in his pedophile ring. For

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>the past few weeks. Rumors have circulated that she's four

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>hundred pounds and living in Florida, or that she's living

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>the high life in London or the continent. But according

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 1>to the Washington Post, authorities are having a hard time

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 1>locating her. Those who know her say that it's possible

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 1>she is as much of a Houdini as Epstein. Both

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 1>of them liked having secrets and the way those secrets

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 1>kept people off balance. Jeffrey always wanted to give the

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>impression he was an international man of mystery. I control

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>everyone and everything. I collect people, I own people. I

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>can damage people, says an ex girlfriend. I can damage people,

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I own people, I collect people. This is a recurring

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 1>theme for anybody that knew this guy. And now there

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>are some people who are early stage reporting because there

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:37.479
<v Speaker 1>was this FBI raid on the Pedophile Island. People are

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>saying that it was all set up for very detailed surveillance.

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Pedophile Island, the island that he owned in the Caribbean.

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.719
<v Speaker 1>And there are some who are saying that this may

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>have been the center in many ways of the black

0:32:55.840 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>mail ring that I do believe was very much what.

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it wasn't all of what Epstein's financial gain came from,

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>but I do think that this was a substantial portion

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>of it. You know, give me that money to invest,

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>because I'm a great investor, slash, I have blackmail material

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 1>that could ruin your life. Epstein would have said to people.

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty easy financial proposition to get done, isn't it. Hey,

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>give me that one hundred million dollars to do whatever

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I want with. Never mind, just invest I'll invest it,

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, but maybe I'll do some other stuff with

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 1>it or else. You know, I have video of the

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>time that so and so that you came to Pedophile Island.

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>That seems given everything we know about this guy, wouldn't

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>that track? Doesn't that make sense to you that this

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>is what he was up to and what we're being

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>told the people who were around him, they'd like to

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>collect people that he'd like to have leverage over people

0:33:55.320 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to influence over very wealthy, very powerful, individal jewels.

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't that make sense given everything else that we know?

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>So I'm I'm wondering how much more information we're going

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>to get here about his finances, because I do think

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>that that's more than anything else, going to illuminate what

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:23.240
<v Speaker 1>was really happening. But I also think that Epstein Epstein

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 1>was running I would wonder if anyone's going to prove

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>me wrong, that would be of interest to me. I

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:31.800
<v Speaker 1>think Epstein was running a blackmail ring of the global elite.

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>That's what I think was going on. And he had

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 1>people who were incredibly wealthy and powerful that he did

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>collect and in a sense own, and that that was

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:47.840
<v Speaker 1>that was reality this guy had, Because what do you

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 1>what would you do? There's there's some blackmail where you

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 1>would take a okay, you know what, Fine tell people

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>that you're going to tell them, I'm not going to

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>live my life this way. If you're a prominent if

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:01.800
<v Speaker 1>you were any person, but particularly if you're a prominent

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 1>public figure and someone has video of you with underage girls,

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I think you're going to probably do what that person says,

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:12.360
<v Speaker 1>because if you go to the FBI, you're in a

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 1>whole lot of trouble. Right So I do think that

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 1>this is I think this is where it's all. It's

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:23.879
<v Speaker 1>all heading. There's this report that Maxwell told a friend

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>that Epstein's entire island was wired for video, presumably for

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>blackmail purposes. This was on a hotair dot com today,

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 1>citing the Vanity Fair piece the entire island was wired

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>for video? Who would do that? Maybe for paranoid security purposes,

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>but none on that on a private island in the Caribbean.

0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 1>When you're a billionaire, you have private security. You don't

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>need all that blackmail. That makes a lot more sense.

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:51.840
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna stay on this, folks, I'm not I'm not

0:35:51.960 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 1>leaving this case behind. Organ worked out. I hope it

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 1>worked out for everybody, By the way, I hope they

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 1>worked out for everybody. As the President talking about the

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 1>very tense situation right now in Hong Kong with the

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Chinese government cracking down. You had riot police inside Hong

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Kong's airport, one of the largest and busiest airports in

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>the world, which has been shut down for the past

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>two days, hundreds and hundreds of flights having to be canceled,

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:33.319
<v Speaker 1>chaos at the airport. Protesters had been mostly peaceful, they

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>had effectively locked down and blocked the airport from functioning,

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 1>but then the violence happened when you had riot police

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:46.879
<v Speaker 1>show up with shields and batons and started hitting people

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and protesters. We're heading back. That was the President weighing

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>in on this. He said, Hong Kong's a very tough situation.

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens. I'm sure it will work out.

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I hope it works out for everybody, including China. President

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 1>very noncommittal here. I was a little surprised, given that

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 1>the president is tough on China. As a general rule,

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 1>this president has been willing to stare down the Chinese

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 1>government on issues that they needed to be stared down on,

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 1>like intellectual property theft, like predatory trading practices, cyberespionage, Refusing

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>to abide by what they said they would to be

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 1>part of the international trade agreements that have been in

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 1>effect for a long time. Copyright infringement, trademark infringement, patent infringeman,

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>you name it all. I mean, the Chinese has just

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:48.439
<v Speaker 1>been cheating and stealing all over the place, and it's

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>been working. I gotta remember that it's been working in

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>our government in this country has been saying, well, you know,

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 1>what are we really what are we really going to

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 1>do about it? Well, now you have Hong Kong, which

0:37:59.880 --> 0:38:05.960
<v Speaker 1>is the single most and I'm so annoyed that I

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't get to go to Hong Kong. I was in

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Beijing and Beijing and Shanghai a few months ago. Hong

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Kong was also part of that trip, but I couldn't

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>get the time off from from work from both of

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>my jobs to go. But but Hong Kong is the

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 1>great economic success story. And you know, there was a

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>there was an agreement here the the one country two

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 1>systems or one state two systems, and it's not supposed

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 1>to end until roughly twenty fifty, where Hong Kong gets

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 1>a kind and no one knows what happens then, by

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the way, but Hong Kong is supposed to have its

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>own legislative body that sets its own laws, and it

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:45.800
<v Speaker 1>has the Chinese government for defense. So just so it

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>is a possession of the People's Republic of China, but

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>it has been able to continue as a very western

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 1>eyes highly developed. I mean, my friends who were just

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>there were telling me about how it's incredibly wealthy. I mean,

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the concentration of wealth in Hong Kong right now is insane,

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's also relatively liberal. Or you can go there

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 1>as an American and not feel the big brother state

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:16.800
<v Speaker 1>that you'd feel and say Beijing, where I was. But

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 1>we have the people of Hong Kong who see this

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 1>not just as pushback against the extradition law, which is

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 1>what sparked this whole thing, which would have meant that

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the mainland communist Chinese government would be able to take

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>anybody effectively in Hong Kong. Say you're coming back to

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 1>mainland China for trial, which means Communist Party can do

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 1>anything they want with you. I mean, now you're done,

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 1>they'll just seize you in Hong Kong and now you

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>go into the Communist party system. Good luck with that,

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and good luck with your trial or whatever they decide

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:51.879
<v Speaker 1>to do with you. We have protesters though, who are

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>waiving American flags, and I mean, here's video of Chinese

0:39:55.760 --> 0:40:00.959
<v Speaker 1>protesters in Hong Kong singing our national anthem, Play nine

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and the rock cast time on passing in that game

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 1>bran than a fast dude that we say uses ringle

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 1>beare they understand that America is still the beacon of

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:33.919
<v Speaker 1>global freedom and they want greater liberty and at least

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>the protesters do. They want individual liberty. And because they're

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 1>in Hong Kong and not on the mainland, they've had

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 1>some taste of that. They've had economic freedom, they've had

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:48.280
<v Speaker 1>a more liberal rule of law, and they've been able

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 1>to experience life without the just the crushing hand of

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 1>the communist regime able to come down to them at

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>any point in time. Now, Mainland China's obviously had a

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of economic prosperity. That's been the bargain that the

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Chinese Communist Party has made over the last thirty years

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 1>or so, which is, we're in charge, you do what

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>we say, but you're going to have greater prosperity and

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 1>wealth you're going to have wherever you are in China.

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Now you're all more access to you know, like even

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:20.720
<v Speaker 1>if you're from the poorer ranks, particularly in the poor ranks,

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 1>you'll have more access to electricity, to schooling, to new vehicles,

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.839
<v Speaker 1>to safer food, to a better paying job, to all

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 1>these different benefits. But you don't have freedom. And China

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 1>has been making that bargain, but the Chinese have been

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>making have been going forward with that bargain for a

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:41.840
<v Speaker 1>long time. Now. Hong Kong has a different bargain, which is,

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:43.919
<v Speaker 1>you do the things that you've been doing in Hong Kong,

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<v Speaker 1>and China will still be the country that you belong to,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can do things your way in Hong Kong

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 1>as Chinese there. This is a real inflection point for

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<v Speaker 1>freedom on a global scale. What happens in Hong Kong,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have ramifications that the rest of the world will

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<v Speaker 1>see and will certainly affect our trade deal with China,

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 1>how that comes about or not. My friends, Steve Yates

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<v Speaker 1>is going to join in a moment to way and more.

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in my friend Steve Yates here to give us

0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:21.879
<v Speaker 1>his take on everything that's going on in Hong Kong

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 1>with the Chinese government and all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve is formerly a Deputy National Security Advisor for Vice

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 1>President Dick Cheney. He is currently the CEO of DC

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<v Speaker 1>International Advisory. Great to have you, Steve. Thanks, good to

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:38.400
<v Speaker 1>be with you. Buck All right, Steve, So, what do

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you make of what's going on right now? I mean,

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 1>it's I know, it was very early in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very morning, well early in the morning, I should

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 1>say in Hong Kong right now. Things that quieted down

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 1>overnight a bit, but there were some people who were

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<v Speaker 1>tweeting out some pretty ominous photos and there were concerns

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.839
<v Speaker 1>about a violent crackdown. Do you think that's going to happen?

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, makes them actions here and if you're right,

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:04.840
<v Speaker 1>we'll bring you back on no pressure on that. But

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 1>there's for sure this is something that's trending in a

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 1>dangerous direction because there's history of the Communist Party of

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 1>China being very, very willing, due to politics and other interests,

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:21.960
<v Speaker 1>to kill other Chinese people. They did it in the

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 1>June fourth, nineteen eighty nineteen Square massacre. That was after

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<v Speaker 1>weeks and weeks of demonstrations against corruption inflation, and a

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<v Speaker 1>number of other grievances against the government. At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>the people of Hong Kong were promised not that far

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:39.800
<v Speaker 1>from that period of time, that they would have a

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>high degree of autonomy, they'd be able to govern their

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>own affairs, that Chinese would assume sovereignty and defense. But

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:50.359
<v Speaker 1>the Hong Kong people had universal suffrage at some point

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 1>be able to elect their own leaders, and especially the

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 1>young generation, but not just the young generation of Hong

0:43:56.640 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Kong now sees that that was not an honor bargain,

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and the Chinese Communist Party is pushing hard for them

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:06.760
<v Speaker 1>to submit and just be a part of one China.

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:09.280
<v Speaker 1>And this is I think the last stand for freedom

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:13.240
<v Speaker 1>for the people of Hong Kong. Will the Chinese government,

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<v Speaker 1>the People's Liberation Army or security forces, the Party ultimately

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:22.919
<v Speaker 1>crack down and injure main, mass arrest or even murder

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:28.360
<v Speaker 1>people to impose some kind of stability. That's what they're threatening,

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 1>and that's what we're waiting to see happen. But my

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:33.360
<v Speaker 1>prediction is this is heading in a dangerous direction. The

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 1>young people are prepared to stand up for their freedom

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 1>and fight. On the long term. I bet on the

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:40.879
<v Speaker 1>side of the people. So I say, at some point

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>they're going to win their freedom. Well, that's at least hopeful.

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I would actually take the other side of that bargain

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>given what we've seen in China. But I guess it

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:53.280
<v Speaker 1>depends on the horizon we're talking about here, So who

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 1>really knows. We gotta have my friend Gordon Chang back

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 1>on the coming collapse of China. Could be any day now,

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:00.439
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think it's going to be any time soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask about what else the protesters wont

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Initially this was all kicked off because of the extradition

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<v Speaker 1>law from Hong Kong. What can you tell us about

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 1>this is now that plus it's more than just that.

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 1>It's more than just that. But that really is much

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than it sounds. I mean, fundamentally, Hong Kong is

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<v Speaker 1>the golden Goose for China. It's separate rule of law

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:31.560
<v Speaker 1>under a common law system. It's separate currency, it's high

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 1>degree of autonomy. It allowed for Hong Kong to be

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<v Speaker 1>a major, major international financial center. It also enabled Hong

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<v Speaker 1>Kong to be basically a through port to open up

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Chinese markets, connect it to be a global trading and

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:50.840
<v Speaker 1>economic power, and so that separate status is exceedingly important

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 1>to China's rise as an economic power, and the extraditial

0:45:56.719 --> 0:46:01.400
<v Speaker 1>treaty or the extradition law would basically mean that if

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:06.839
<v Speaker 1>any American, Canadian, Australian other CEO were to enter Hong Kong,

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:09.879
<v Speaker 1>they could on a whim be snatched up and tried

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:16.440
<v Speaker 1>inside China. And also protesters who are trying to pursue

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 1>their own rights could also, instead of being tried under

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 1>common law in the Hong Kong separate system, could be

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 1>tried in mainland courts. And so they see this as

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:31.720
<v Speaker 1>fundamentally erasing the two systems from the bargain of one country,

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:35.800
<v Speaker 1>two systems. It just becomes one country, one system, and

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:41.400
<v Speaker 1>it's all in favor of the artificial intelligence, tech inspired

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 1>control regime. But as the CCP on China, now give

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:48.160
<v Speaker 1>me your sense of why China won't just get you know,

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 1>there is international attention on this, not as much as

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Fredo Gate with Chris Cuomo, but there is international attention.

0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:57.360
<v Speaker 1>People are finally looking at this now because of some

0:46:57.400 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 1>of the violence in the airport, what's gone on there

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and those photos of what looked like armored personnel carriers.

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I know it's supposed to be for the People's Police,

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:10.000
<v Speaker 1>People's armed police force of China, but it's paramilitary. They're

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna look like they're gonna roll in there and crack skulls. Literally.

0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Why wouldn't the Chinese just say, you know what, the

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 1>heat's the heat's up right now. Why don't we just

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, back off, let things cool down a bit,

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and then just use our tremendous economic and political and

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 1>other powers of persuasion behind the scenes to essentially slowly

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:36.760
<v Speaker 1>consume Hong Kong. Anyway, Well, that would be exceedingly rational,

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 1>and that's what a lot of us thought for a

0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 1>long time, and in reality, that's what was happening and

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 1>what was working in many ways, whether it was the

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Chinese occupying and what we would call simifying or turning

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Chinese territories like to bet the far West, Chin Johns,

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 1>the majority Muslim the slow cook pressure on Hong Kong,

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the pressure on Taiwan and trying to bully them and

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:05.879
<v Speaker 1>push them out of international bodies and things like. All

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 1>of this on a slow pressure cooker was actually kind

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:14.399
<v Speaker 1>of trending Beijing's way as long as they held out

0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the promising vision of what China was becoming, and the

0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 1>world was very accommodating to China doing these things. And

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:25.760
<v Speaker 1>that's been essentially the last several decades since the Tenement

0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Square massacre, and so really in the last year, for

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:32.360
<v Speaker 1>reasons that are not directly apparent to a lot of

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:36.280
<v Speaker 1>outside observers, things seem to be worse for the Communist

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Party inside China, or there's no rational reason for them

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:42.359
<v Speaker 1>to have to push for these things now. If they

0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:46.879
<v Speaker 1>were a confident power, if they were secure in their

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:50.840
<v Speaker 1>economic model, not feeling the pressure of the Trump tariffs

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 1>and the other inconsistencies of their economy, if they really

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:58.279
<v Speaker 1>believed their people were behind them, they could allow for

0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 1>time and be patient, but changed inside China. This is

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:05.600
<v Speaker 1>not a US or externally induced movement, and it's not

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:09.359
<v Speaker 1>just a trade war. This is a comprehensive war by

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the Communist Party of China to impose control on as

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:16.000
<v Speaker 1>much as it possibly can right now. How much by

0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:20.399
<v Speaker 1>fear on their part, how much does a independence contagion

0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:24.880
<v Speaker 1>affect the thinking in your mind of the Chinese Communist

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Party right now? Meaning if they do you think that

0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 1>their perception is if they backed off of Hong Kong.

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 1>There are other parts of China that aren't quite as

0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:40.320
<v Speaker 1>on board for the whole communist mission as the Central

0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Committee wants them to be right, and certainly Taiwan comes

0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 1>to mind, which is a whole other category, but there

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:48.440
<v Speaker 1>are even parts of mainland China that are at issue.

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Here does that factor in or where would you put that? Well,

0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:55.279
<v Speaker 1>it is certainly logic that they deploy and at some

0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:58.600
<v Speaker 1>level they set it so long, so much to so

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:02.319
<v Speaker 1>many people. I think they leave their own propaganda at

0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 1>this point, but it isn't empirically or logically true. Hong

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Kong is very very different from all other parts of China.

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 1>After all, it was a British colony for a very

0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 1>long time, and they can talk about how important it

0:50:15.160 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 1>was to bring back to China, so to speak, but

0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 1>it is a very very different place, and so any

0:50:20.640 --> 0:50:23.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of an exception that was made for Hong Kong

0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 1>is easily justified, as it's for a place that was

0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:30.800
<v Speaker 1>under exceptional circumstances. So all of you other parts of

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:33.640
<v Speaker 1>China that were a long term British colony, yeah, we'll

0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:36.120
<v Speaker 1>give you an audience, but that literally no other part

0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:40.560
<v Speaker 1>of the current People's Republic of China. So there's other

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:42.840
<v Speaker 1>logic for why they're having to do this. There's no

0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:46.600
<v Speaker 1>question that they have built in almost like a sixth

0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:49.800
<v Speaker 1>sense movie issue of everywhere they look, they see dead people,

0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:53.239
<v Speaker 1>they see color revolutions, they see some kind of group

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that's going to come take them down. But that's, like

0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I said, they are insecure at some level. We have

0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:03.239
<v Speaker 1>assumed level of maturity, security, durability in this regime that

0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:05.920
<v Speaker 1>they don't even seem to assume themselves. But it's this

0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:09.399
<v Speaker 1>color revolution contagion that they're talking up now and then

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 1>labeling the Hong Kong protesters as terrorists that does, in

0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 1>fact sound like they're setting up for some kind of

0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:20.239
<v Speaker 1>a crackdown. Very worrying if they do it, it's ken

0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Anman Square massacre of nineteen eighty nine times ten, because

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:26.400
<v Speaker 1>more of the world is watching. And as much as

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>we like to kick the journalist profession around and it's

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:32.640
<v Speaker 1>easy to do a lot, there's actually a respectable number

0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:34.919
<v Speaker 1>of journalists that have gone into Hong Kong and they're

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:37.720
<v Speaker 1>doing what they're supposed to do. They're reporting the truth

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:40.839
<v Speaker 1>on the scene, unfiltered, and it's almost the only place

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 1>in the planet that's happening right now. Steve the administration

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 1>weighing in on this one today, Trump said he hopes

0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:53.439
<v Speaker 1>no one dies, basically, and that this will somehow work out.

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:56.320
<v Speaker 1>And it was very it was just neutral. Really, it

0:51:56.560 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't really take a position either way. Is how do

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:03.759
<v Speaker 1>you view that? Meaning? Does does Trump just see this

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:07.520
<v Speaker 1>as he doesn't have a hand to play here right

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 1>now because he has to worry about the trade agreement

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 1>or should he see this as leverage or what should

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Trump be doing? Well, the first thing, I mean, I

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:21.680
<v Speaker 1>obviously I can't program what our great president is going

0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 1>to say by way of Twitter or otherwise. My hope

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:28.399
<v Speaker 1>would be the first thing anybody from the United States

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:31.440
<v Speaker 1>can do is say we stand for people who are

0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 1>prepared to make the sacrifices that Americans before us made

0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:37.880
<v Speaker 1>to secure our own freedom. So, I mean, we have

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:41.360
<v Speaker 1>to at some levels that you know, whether we're prepared

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:45.000
<v Speaker 1>to intervene or help that completely aside, we should at

0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 1>least say I have nothing but respect for the people

0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:49.839
<v Speaker 1>that are willing to stand up and maybe even pay

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the ultimate price to pursue truis Zoo freedom, the blessings

0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:57.360
<v Speaker 1>of liberty for ourselves and our posterity ether things we

0:52:57.480 --> 0:53:01.239
<v Speaker 1>believe in. It's what's American makes us special. And then

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:04.160
<v Speaker 1>beyond that, I think that we should be giving some

0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:07.120
<v Speaker 1>cautionary words to Beijing that there's going to be costs

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to them greater than this tariff escalation in recent times.

0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:13.880
<v Speaker 1>If they try to pull off some kind of a

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:17.400
<v Speaker 1>tan on, then again that there are measures that are

0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:20.480
<v Speaker 1>ready to go, and so we really urge them to

0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:23.719
<v Speaker 1>exercise caution. After all, it is they who pushed the

0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:27.120
<v Speaker 1>extradition law. It is they who crank up the pressure cooker,

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and now they're trying to show us the result and

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:33.320
<v Speaker 1>say that's the problem, when really that's just the symptom

0:53:33.360 --> 0:53:36.280
<v Speaker 1>of what they have done. I would like the President

0:53:36.360 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 1>to see through the shade and be able to speak

0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:43.200
<v Speaker 1>directly to that. Steve and Yates, everybody DC International Advisory,

0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:47.439
<v Speaker 1>he is the CEO, and Steven always appreciate you joining

0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:50.000
<v Speaker 1>to share your Asia expertise, sir, talk to you soon.

0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Buck tick here all right, team, we got

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 1>more to stay with me. Just a few more thoughts

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 1>on what's going on in Hong Kong. But in a

0:53:57.280 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 1>historical sense, I have a dear for an approach to this.

0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to share with you because you know, in

0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:05.320
<v Speaker 1>this country right now we are in the midst of

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>whether we understand or accept this or not we are

0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:10.480
<v Speaker 1>we are in the midst of a debate over whether

0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:12.720
<v Speaker 1>we're going to go socialist or not. That is happening.

0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party is a socialist party. They advocate for socialism

0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:25.640
<v Speaker 1>in a broad scale manner, full spectrum socialism in a

0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 1>democratic socialist model openly now. But they've been advocating for

0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:35.719
<v Speaker 1>central planning and the implementation of socialist programs within a

0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:38.440
<v Speaker 1>more liberal and free market economy for as long as

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I've been at FIR, as long as really they've been

0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:45.279
<v Speaker 1>around in the twentieth century into the twenty first. So

0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:47.440
<v Speaker 1>now what we have is a Democratic Party that is

0:54:47.480 --> 0:54:52.120
<v Speaker 1>effectively socialist. I look at what's going on in Asia,

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and I think that there's a lesson from all this.

0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:57.680
<v Speaker 1>People often point conservatives in particularly do this. They'll point

0:54:57.719 --> 0:55:02.160
<v Speaker 1>of Venezuela and they'll say, look at what socialism does

0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:08.399
<v Speaker 1>in Venezuela. It has tremendous natural resources, particularly oil, which

0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:10.000
<v Speaker 1>is the one we're really talking about. All though does

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:12.319
<v Speaker 1>have some of the best cacao in the world. Those

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:15.280
<v Speaker 1>who like chocolate. I'm a bit of a chocolate chocolate

0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:17.680
<v Speaker 1>o file, it's probably a better word, a chocolate file.

0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Is that a thing? I do love chocolate. But they

0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:25.520
<v Speaker 1>have more proven oil reserves than even Saudi Arabia. This

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:27.799
<v Speaker 1>is the fact, the statistic that everybody who talks about

0:55:27.840 --> 0:55:29.440
<v Speaker 1>this on TV throws out. So it sounds like they

0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:33.520
<v Speaker 1>know something about Venezuela. But you can look at what's

0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:39.120
<v Speaker 1>happened in the Far East over the last fifty years

0:55:39.280 --> 0:55:42.120
<v Speaker 1>or so, and all you have is case study after

0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:47.959
<v Speaker 1>case study of what central planning and socialism, the heart

0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:50.160
<v Speaker 1>of socialism in central planning, these two things have to

0:55:50.200 --> 0:55:53.040
<v Speaker 1>go together. What central planning and socialism have done to

0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:57.200
<v Speaker 1>economies in the Far East, and what free trade and

0:55:57.400 --> 0:56:02.320
<v Speaker 1>liberalism and free markets have done in the Far East.

0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:07.759
<v Speaker 1>And you just look at country after country and it

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:10.680
<v Speaker 1>tells you the whole tale. I mean, China was a

0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:16.600
<v Speaker 1>desperately poor country until about the nineteen eighties when all

0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:18.200
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden they decided, you know what, we're going

0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:22.920
<v Speaker 1>to adopt free market reforms. And they've had their own

0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:28.640
<v Speaker 1>way of doing it with state supported entities, but they

0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:31.439
<v Speaker 1>have created something of an economic miracle, that is by

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:35.880
<v Speaker 1>adopting a market based model, because that its core, socialism

0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:39.759
<v Speaker 1>has to fail, whether it's in a specific sector, a

0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:43.320
<v Speaker 1>specific policy, or an entire program for a national economy,

0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:46.440
<v Speaker 1>it has to fail because it does not have the

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:51.600
<v Speaker 1>market signal of price, for one, and there's no way

0:56:51.680 --> 0:56:55.800
<v Speaker 1>that you could ever centrally plan effectively on a scale

0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:59.480
<v Speaker 1>of any major national economy. It just can't happen. So

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:03.399
<v Speaker 1>these different programs of socialism in the Far East. Yeah, yeah,

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:06.000
<v Speaker 1>we talk about North Korea, but that's also a Stalinist,

0:57:06.719 --> 0:57:11.239
<v Speaker 1>a stalinist totalitarian gulag state. So that feels like the

0:57:11.360 --> 0:57:14.799
<v Speaker 1>more extreme version. But look at India, look at China,

0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:18.800
<v Speaker 1>look at Hong Kong, look at Taiwan. All of these

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:25.360
<v Speaker 1>different countries tell the tale of why socialism fails and

0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 1>what happens when you adopt free market based economic policies.

0:57:31.560 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 1>And with the free market, you also have the Once

0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:39.760
<v Speaker 1>you have individual liberty in business, individual liberty in your

0:57:39.920 --> 0:57:44.520
<v Speaker 1>economic daily life, it then is a much greater likelihood.

0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Although this is really the this is where the rubber

0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:50.480
<v Speaker 1>meets the road. In China, it's much greater likelihood you'll

0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:54.320
<v Speaker 1>have individual rights across the board later on for free

0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:56.760
<v Speaker 1>speech and religious practice and everything. But but first you

0:57:56.840 --> 0:58:00.680
<v Speaker 1>need those economic those economic rights, or at least this

0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:05.920
<v Speaker 1>state has to respect your ability to pursue international markets

0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:11.000
<v Speaker 1>and competition in order to grow capital to a mass

0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:15.480
<v Speaker 1>capital and to prosper as a business every I mean,

0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong is an excellent example of this. Why is

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:21.919
<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong so much wealthier, so much more prosperous even

0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:24.080
<v Speaker 1>today than the rest of China. I mean, Shanghai is

0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:26.360
<v Speaker 1>now catching up to it, but Hong Kong is still

0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:30.960
<v Speaker 1>the financial center of China. And the reason for that is, oh,

0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 1>that's right. The British were running it for a long time.

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:38.200
<v Speaker 1>It had English common law in some capacity, English courts.

0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, there was all this this leave behind of

0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the British Empire that created an infrastructure that was something

0:58:48.680 --> 0:58:53.160
<v Speaker 1>that the Chinese people, with all their intelligence, ingenuity and

0:58:53.600 --> 0:58:57.080
<v Speaker 1>work ethic, could quickly build on. So Hong Kong was

0:58:57.160 --> 0:58:59.200
<v Speaker 1>way ahead of the rest of China even before the

0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Chinese and his Party adopted market market reforms. Look at

0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the state of Taiwan, which is another big open question

0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:09.960
<v Speaker 1>about how this part of the world is going forward.

0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Taiwan. The joke in America in the nineties

0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:15.600
<v Speaker 1>was that everything was made in Taiwan, right, Well, how

0:59:15.680 --> 0:59:19.240
<v Speaker 1>is that possible? The regime in Taiwan had been the

0:59:19.360 --> 0:59:23.480
<v Speaker 1>national government of mainland China. But then you know, Mao

0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:30.000
<v Speaker 1>in his guerrilla warfare with guerrilla warfare, defeated schen Kai

0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Shek and they fled to Taiwan. But Taiwan adopted market

0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:39.040
<v Speaker 1>based economic policies and market based reforms time and time again.

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Look at how wealthy South Korea has become and Japan.

0:59:43.720 --> 0:59:50.240
<v Speaker 1>All these different Asian Asian nations that pursued a free

0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:56.080
<v Speaker 1>market based economic policy had explosions of growth and wealth.

0:59:57.440 --> 1:00:02.280
<v Speaker 1>And it always directly coincides with with scaling back or

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<v Speaker 1>eliminating the central planning, opening markets, and allowing the business

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<v Speaker 1>of the people to be business. In a case after case,

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<v Speaker 1>not a single Asian country did you have a socialist

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<v Speaker 1>did you have a free market program? That they switched

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<v Speaker 1>to a socialist program and all of a sudden things

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<v Speaker 1>looked really great, and now everybody was happy and had

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<v Speaker 1>free healthcare and free medical care. In fact, in the

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<v Speaker 1>case of India, we think of India as a third

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<v Speaker 1>world country that just recently, again in the last thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years or so, has become much wealthier. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>accurate in so far as it's representative what's recently happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But India, up until the British leap was for the region,

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty wealthy country, huge textile industry. India was again

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<v Speaker 1>speaking from a regional perspective, doing pretty well. But then

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<v Speaker 1>when you had the British and their rule, they left

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<v Speaker 1>behind a lot of again English common law, the courts, infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 1>You had a socialist program instituted by Nehru Socialism and

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<v Speaker 1>it was this village based socialism and it was Gandhi

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<v Speaker 1>as much as he's the national hero of India, had

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<v Speaker 1>some very sketchy economic ideas, didn't really understand economics, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was really a nation state founder slash saint in India.

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<v Speaker 1>So they pursued all these socialist policies and India became

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<v Speaker 1>an economic basket case full of corruption and just you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get anything done. Nothing worked, no market signals, central

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<v Speaker 1>planning all over the place, prices or whatever they say,

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<v Speaker 1>they are a disaster. So you know the case of

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<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong, this is true across Asia's why I'm bringing

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<v Speaker 1>this up. But socialism destroys economies and puts people into misery,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's true everywhere. And people who bring up Sweden

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the heck they're talking about because Sweden

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<v Speaker 1>became socialists and was getting poor and poor. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have to remember that some of these countries that had

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<v Speaker 1>been that had been more liberal in their economies. It

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<v Speaker 1>takes a while to run through everything you got stored

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<v Speaker 1>in the cupboard, so to speak, when you go to socialism.

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<v Speaker 1>But now Sweden has been liberalizing its economy and has

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<v Speaker 1>been changing its policies to make them more free market

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<v Speaker 1>because it wasn't working. It doesn't work, it never works.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so yes, the case of individual freedom for

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<v Speaker 1>the people. The freedom of individuals in Hong Kong matters

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<v Speaker 1>to us global freedom. It's helpful for the economy, it's

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<v Speaker 1>helpful for humankind and all that. That's true. But also

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<v Speaker 1>just remember Hong Kong is a case study in why

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<v Speaker 1>free markets work and why socialism fails, because Hong Kong

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<v Speaker 1>was way ahead of all the socialist countries of Asia

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<v Speaker 1>and has been for a long time. So I know

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned it the top of the show. This was

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest trending news story in the country today, getting

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<v Speaker 1>more attention than anything else, hundreds of thousands of posts

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter and Facebook, everyone weighing in on the different

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<v Speaker 1>aspects of Fredo Gate. I guess we could call it that.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Cuomo, who we have referred to as Bro Cuomo,

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<v Speaker 1>as he is the bro of the governor of New

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<v Speaker 1>York State as well as a bro yo do you

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<v Speaker 1>even live? Bro? We've been referring to him as that

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. I did not realize he is quite

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<v Speaker 1>sensitive about that. And last night he was I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure exactly where, but he was in New York City

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<v Speaker 1>with his wife and his child. I think that's important

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<v Speaker 1>for context, and he ended up being accosted by somebody

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<v Speaker 1>as yet not really named from what I understand, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is how I want to play the exchange. I look,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of profanity. We cut out the profanity,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was filmed. This is in a public place.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Cuomo of CNA and the CNA anchor, Bro Cuomo

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<v Speaker 1>is approached by some guy, and all we really know

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<v Speaker 1>is that this guy called him Fredo, a reference to

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<v Speaker 1>the weaker dumber brother from The Godfather movies, which of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is about the Sicilian mafia. Uh. Some people say the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest two of the greatest movies of all time. I

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<v Speaker 1>leave that to you. But Fredo, you know, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>brother's like, I'm good enough, I'm smart, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he Michael has the Uh. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>give anything away, but he ends up on a boat

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the last thing that ends up happening. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Cuomo is very very sensitive about this situation, and

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<v Speaker 1>just they'll be bleeps, but you can imagine what the

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<v Speaker 1>real thing was like. This is Cuomo getting called Fredo.

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<v Speaker 1>Play it like that that it was. You did not

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<v Speaker 1>think my name was Frado. Don't be alive? Said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you said you're gonna have but what are you all about?

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<v Speaker 1>Throw you down these stairs? Please do so you don't consume?

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you do so you get the idea. We

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<v Speaker 1>actually didn't even play the opening part of it where

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<v Speaker 1>he says that it's like being called that. Being called

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<v Speaker 1>Fredo for an Italian is a racial slur, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is the equivalent for Italians of being called the N word. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not true. Okay, that is a class This

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<v Speaker 1>is a classic liberal tactic. Of because I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Cuomo has the moral high ground here in the sense

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<v Speaker 1>that he was approached. He's with his wife and kids,

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<v Speaker 1>or with his wife and kid, and he's at a

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<v Speaker 1>public place, and from what we understand, he didn't incite

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<v Speaker 1>this at all. Someone came up to him and just

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<v Speaker 1>called him Fredo and obviously wanted to film this and

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<v Speaker 1>creates some sort of incident, which is a lame, loser

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do and conservatives a lot of them. I

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<v Speaker 1>will note a lot of people that I like in

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<v Speaker 1>this business have come out and said that you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do this. It's not cool, it's rude, and you also

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<v Speaker 1>might spark a situation where you're getting a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>than you asked for, which I think is pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>what happened here with these guys that said to claim

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<v Speaker 1>that this is a racial slur is just excessive and nonsensical,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what Cuomo said. Fredo is not a racial slur.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a reference to a movie character, and the whole

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<v Speaker 1>point of referencing the character is that it's the weaker,

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<v Speaker 1>dumber brother. No one really cares that Fredo is Italian.

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<v Speaker 1>They care about the fact that Michael Corleone is the

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<v Speaker 1>godfather boss and Fredo is his wayward, stupid brother, and

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<v Speaker 1>no one you know that that's what that's all about.

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<v Speaker 1>So we understand that one and you know this is

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<v Speaker 1>as a conservative, I feel like we have principles and standards,

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<v Speaker 1>and a principle and a standard that we can all

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<v Speaker 1>get behind is that you shouldn't harass public figures for

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<v Speaker 1>no reason. You shouldn't go up to them in public.

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<v Speaker 1>There's plenty of ways to reach out, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to allow everyone to say what they want

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<v Speaker 1>on Facebook and Twitter and email people, and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to also physically accost anyone and make it impossible

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<v Speaker 1>for the have a nice night with their wife and kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that that's an escalation. If you go

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<v Speaker 1>up to somebody in there alone. If you go to

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<v Speaker 1>a guy, a woman is a different category, she might

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<v Speaker 1>feel even more threatened. But if you go up to

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<v Speaker 1>a guy in media and he's alone, that's bad. If

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<v Speaker 1>you go up to somebody and he is with his

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<v Speaker 1>wife and or children, and you're gonna start saying stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>now you really have Now you really have a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you're somebody who has no no decency, no

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<v Speaker 1>sense of honor. It's a gross thing to do. But

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<v Speaker 1>Cuomo sounded like a complete lunatic. I mean, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to discount this either, you know, so like go

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<v Speaker 1>throw you down? Oh and you clo It's like, all right, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>calm down. I mean, it's one thing if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell him to go blank himself. Oh yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what a normal person would say. But to get

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<v Speaker 1>up in his face that you're going to throw him

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<v Speaker 1>down a flight of stairs because he called you Fredo,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was a little excessive. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little excessive. You know. I've had people say things

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<v Speaker 1>to me that I didn't like in public, in private,

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<v Speaker 1>on social media. I'm not running around threatening to throw

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<v Speaker 1>people down a flight of stairs, and I could. One

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<v Speaker 1>of my biggest frustrations is that I know that this

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<v Speaker 1>solidarity with with Cuomo that you've seen from most of

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<v Speaker 1>the media, including a lot of conservatives. Look, Sean Hannity

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<v Speaker 1>said that he did nothing wrong. Sewan tweeted that out

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<v Speaker 1>last night and that he would have reacted the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>I mostly agree with Sean, except I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>Cuomo went a little He went too far, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think Cuomo was also a jerk, but that's I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>beside the point. But you know, Conservatives, I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this. If someone ever comes up to me and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they see the like the side swoop,

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<v Speaker 1>and they figure, oh, he's probably and I'm very nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually I have a whole other gear too, not just

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<v Speaker 1>a salty language gear, but a you know, the the

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<v Speaker 1>Anglo Irish equivalent of are you talking to me? So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just know that if I got into

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<v Speaker 1>it with somebody like this, I could not expect the

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<v Speaker 1>media to come to my defense and say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I was out with let's say a girlfriend and

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<v Speaker 1>somebody said something rude to me and then I got

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<v Speaker 1>into it with them and they videotaped it, I just

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<v Speaker 1>know the conservatives were held to a different standard. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's always what's hard for me with these situations, that

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<v Speaker 1>the the real standard should be don't bother people in public,

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<v Speaker 1>but also a little bit don't be a complete maniac

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody's not really crossing the line that badly. But

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<v Speaker 1>the standard is gonna be Chris Colm was a Democrat,

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<v Speaker 1>a LIB and he's resistance. He's anti Trump, so they'll

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<v Speaker 1>back him up. But if anybody who's pro Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>a conservative and on the right does this, you can

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<v Speaker 1>watch as the mainstream media circles the wagons against that person.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to bring in our friends Jesse Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>and Sean Parnell. We haven't had them on the show

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<v Speaker 1>in a little bit, and they're two great guys. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>tell them I said that though they already both have

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<v Speaker 1>very healthy egos, but they really are great dudes, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be coming on here in a minute. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk to them about their take on this, and then

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<v Speaker 1>also an important news story, which is the possibility of

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<v Speaker 1>an end of the war in Afghanistan and a full

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<v Speaker 1>US military withdrawal because of an agreement with the Taliban.

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<v Speaker 1>That's coming up. All right, team, we got a special

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<v Speaker 1>treat for you here it away and on some of

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<v Speaker 1>the most important news of the day. We're joined by

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<v Speaker 1>our friends Kelly and Sean Parnell. Jesse Kelly is, of

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<v Speaker 1>course the host of the Jesse Kelly Radio Show down

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<v Speaker 1>on KPRC Houston, and we've also got Sean Parnell. His

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<v Speaker 1>latest book, All Out War, is available on Amazon and

1:11:13.560 --> 1:11:16.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever wherever books are sold. Of course, Jesse's a former marine.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean's a former army ranger. They're both great patriots and

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<v Speaker 1>entertaining individuals. They joined us. Now, gentlemen, great to have

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<v Speaker 1>you on the Buck Sexton Show. Yes, well, I'm great

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<v Speaker 1>to be here the very special favorite of your audience

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm here, not so much for the shot. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I saw the YouTube, guys, I want to have

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<v Speaker 1>you way in because you had different takes which I

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<v Speaker 1>did find a little surprising, different takes on the whole

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<v Speaker 1>Fredo Cuomo fiasco. And I wanted to start with the

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<v Speaker 1>what is the Sean Parnell reaction to what? By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>based on Twitter and social media, is being treated like

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<v Speaker 1>it's the single biggest news story in the world right now, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it really is. I mean my thing is is that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I thought that Cuomo's response was entirely inappropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, while it is, it kind of sucks that

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<v Speaker 1>this guy approached him and sigated everything. You know, My

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<v Speaker 1>position is, he's a public figure. It's part of public life.

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<v Speaker 1>In a perfect world, everybody when you're off the clock,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody can go about their business and not be bothered.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you're called a name, an appropriate response is

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<v Speaker 1>not threatening harm or physical violence on somebody. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a line. I don't think that this guy

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<v Speaker 1>crossed it. He didn't. He wasn't bowing up on Cuomo

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<v Speaker 1>and in sort of aggressive way. He just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>stood there. And by the way that Cuomo responded, he

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<v Speaker 1>branded himself Fredo for Life. And if you look what

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<v Speaker 1>happened in the wake of that video being released and

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<v Speaker 1>going viral, even conservatives and liberals alike started going on

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<v Speaker 1>the Wikipedia page and Google searches for Cuomo and started

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<v Speaker 1>naming him Chris Fredo Cuomo precisely because react. You only

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<v Speaker 1>need to have siblings to know that. If people know

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<v Speaker 1>what truly bothers you, it becomes your tagline life. And

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<v Speaker 1>had Clomo jes walked away and just ignored it, just

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<v Speaker 1>acted like the bigger person, this wouldn't even be an

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<v Speaker 1>incident and he wouldn't be fraid over life. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>We have an opening sta from Sean Parnell. Jesse Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>you take a more, you mess with the big dog,

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<v Speaker 1>you get bit approach. All right. I disagree with everything

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<v Speaker 1>Sean said except for one thing. Yes, Chris Croomo is

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<v Speaker 1>now able to Praido for life. And he did that

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<v Speaker 1>by his reaction. That's the fact I totally disagree with

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<v Speaker 1>this one. Was Chris Plumo fall The guy didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>anything wrong? I think that is in a third take.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Klomo was out by himself or supposedly with his kids,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he was friends. It doesn't even matter who he

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<v Speaker 1>was with. Chris Klumo was outminding his own business in public.

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<v Speaker 1>If you then choose on your own to pull out

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<v Speaker 1>your nerid cell phone camera or your little man per

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<v Speaker 1>cell phone camera, roll up to somebody who's minding his

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<v Speaker 1>own business, start chirping at him, throw an insult his way,

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<v Speaker 1>then you get what you get. Don't throw for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Bowing did not hit the guy in the mouth

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. But frankly, if I was approached

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<v Speaker 1>by somebody out in public and I saw he was

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<v Speaker 1>insulted me, maybe I'd try to walk away. But I

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee how I tell you to tell him one thing, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you stay arms light away from me, or you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to pay the penalty for it. Stay away, back off.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a serious black of punching people in the

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<v Speaker 1>mouth in this country. And I say that not because

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<v Speaker 1>I think he should have hit him. He should not have.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm talking about we have terble band and demonized

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<v Speaker 1>kids fighting when they're younger that now we have grown

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<v Speaker 1>adult little snots who think it's funny to do this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>When I see someone who does that, I see somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't get punched in the nose enough in his life,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's exactly who that guy is. So I need

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<v Speaker 1>to I need to ask you. I mean, the part

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<v Speaker 1>of this that got at least initially that I was well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was taken aback just by how completely rageful quote

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<v Speaker 1>was over being called Fredo. But but I would go

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<v Speaker 1>a step further. He said that, uh, that that calling

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<v Speaker 1>him Fredo is like calling somebody the N word. But

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<v Speaker 1>for Italians this is just lunacy. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>else to say about it. Well, it's it's dominant thing. Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>And let me let me just say I agree with you,

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<v Speaker 1>Buck and Jesse, I agree with you as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think our points are mutually exclusive. So, like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a line here. This guy called him Fredo, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>call him anything inflammatory. If you're a public fee, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a public figure, you have to assume that sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>things are going to get flung at you is only

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<v Speaker 1>you can control how you react. I thought that he

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<v Speaker 1>was totally out aligne. Fredo is obviously obviously not a

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<v Speaker 1>racial slur. It is a term meant to imply weakness, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he was calling Chris Cuomo weak, and what Chris Cuomo

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<v Speaker 1>did was demonstrate his weakness by responding in the way

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<v Speaker 1>that he did, therefore branding himself Fredo for Life. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you look no further than the best branding expert

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<v Speaker 1>in the country. And look how Donald Trump responded. He's

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<v Speaker 1>already got merchandise out there, calling Chris Cuomo Fredo that

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<v Speaker 1>he's selling on the Donald Trump website for reelection. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's and he branded himself Fredo for Life through

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<v Speaker 1>his ridiculous reaction to something that he should have just

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<v Speaker 1>walked away from. Now, I'm not saying that you can't

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<v Speaker 1>defend your family. I mean, look, if the guy accosted him,

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<v Speaker 1>if he said something truly inflammatory, if he said something

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<v Speaker 1>about his wife, if he said something about his get

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<v Speaker 1>that's different. I do agree that I have no issue

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<v Speaker 1>with standing up for the people that you love and

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<v Speaker 1>you care about in public places. But this was not

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<v Speaker 1>one of those instances. Yeah, but Momo was way over

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<v Speaker 1>the top, go for a jesse. Here's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It may they have been over the top, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would do with you. I can't see myself ever reacting

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<v Speaker 1>that way. I've been shouted at plenty of times in public.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see anything. So if you see me to

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<v Speaker 1>have me react that way, that's not what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is, well, who should be attacking today

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<v Speaker 1>is the moron who approached him at all? Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>approached him at all? Unless you're going to sheepishly walk

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<v Speaker 1>up and ask for a picture or an ironograph or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, why not leave the freaking guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>can answer that. I can answer that question. I'll tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>Ah tell you, I'll tell you exactly why. Because Cuomo

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<v Speaker 1>gods on a show every single night and calls Trump

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<v Speaker 1>supporters racist, xenophobic, biggest, and that Trump supporter is probably

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<v Speaker 1>feeling a little bit under assault from Cuomo and felt

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<v Speaker 1>like he wanted to call him weak. My point is

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<v Speaker 1>is that Chris Cuomo is the He calls people names

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<v Speaker 1>every day on a show from a platform that's ten

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<v Speaker 1>times as big as that guy with a cell phone camera,

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<v Speaker 1>And so Cuomo is asking for this type of behavior

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<v Speaker 1>because he goes on TV every night and calls Trump

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<v Speaker 1>supporters racist. I mean, almost the biggest defender of these.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I have a little bit of a just

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<v Speaker 1>real question. I want to bring Jesse back into a second.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with making this based on what someone says

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<v Speaker 1>on their show, and this will actually transition to what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to pass to Jesse in a second, is

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<v Speaker 1>that the left is going to say, well, every conservative,

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<v Speaker 1>whether on radio or TV, is engaging in the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>propaganda for genocide on a nightly basis, and so anything

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<v Speaker 1>that you could say to a conservative. So so, Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm while I agree with you from an editorial standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that if we open it up to well,

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<v Speaker 1>he says this crappy stuff. That's why I went up,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what libs say all the time. And you

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<v Speaker 1>can respond on a second. But I did want to

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<v Speaker 1>bring Jesse in on this. Jesse, my concern is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say somebody goes up, which would be I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>both of you are are large individuals. Sean is not

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<v Speaker 1>quite six to eleven though, so it would be a

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<v Speaker 1>little surprising if if somebody decided to go up to Jesse. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean either of you guys, they would probably have

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<v Speaker 1>a very bad day. Point here being that if Jesse, Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>if some lib went up to you and got on

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<v Speaker 1>your face and actually said something really nasty, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, said something about your wife or something else,

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<v Speaker 1>and it did go to fisticuffs in some capacity, I

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee you all the libs that are out there right

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<v Speaker 1>now would switch and say, well, I mean, Jesse Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>is a conservative maniac and clearly he you know, should

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<v Speaker 1>be fired and all the other stuff. You're right, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not playing with the left double standard to be

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<v Speaker 1>honest with you, and this is to the point you

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<v Speaker 1>just made, and to respond to Shaun's point, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even playing with politics. If we're I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous game to say, well, I mean if you do X,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's okay to approach somebody. We're gonna do that

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<v Speaker 1>now with actors. I mean, look, you were in a

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<v Speaker 1>film that had too much custing, so I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm allowed to approach you that you install this person,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm allowed to approach you. My point of view was

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<v Speaker 1>not left or right. It's not lybs are Republicans or

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<v Speaker 1>Trump supporters or anyone else. This applies to everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>every walk of life. Leave people all the hell alone.

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<v Speaker 1>We leave the hell alone. I'll leave you the henlone.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't approach people if the person I hated the

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<v Speaker 1>most in the world, I wouldn't it wouldn't edit my

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<v Speaker 1>mind to approach them and say anything vaguely insulting to them.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, business didn't leave people alone. Sean. I get

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated just because I think that there are very few

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<v Speaker 1>organizations in media, uh that would back anyone on the

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<v Speaker 1>right as quickly and as all in as CNN back.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I give the left credit. They take care

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<v Speaker 1>of their own. It's something that we we leave people

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<v Speaker 1>high and dry on the right all the time. CNN

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<v Speaker 1>PR had a statement out in defense of him, saying

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<v Speaker 1>we're with him one hundred percent within like an hour

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<v Speaker 1>of a story breaking, and not only saying that they

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<v Speaker 1>were in defense of him, that the man that filmed

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<v Speaker 1>him used an ethnic slur, which is preposterous. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>is preposterous. Look, you know, I don't I don't disagree

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<v Speaker 1>with anything that Buck you were saying, or Jesse you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying as well. I mean, I think the points that

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<v Speaker 1>we're making aren't mutually exclusive, I will say, but to

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<v Speaker 1>address your point, you know, I think that conservatives for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time is thought under attacked by the by

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<v Speaker 1>the media for decades, right, And so I think that

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<v Speaker 1>all plays into this man's response. The mainstream media or

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<v Speaker 1>most in the media, or liberal mosta entertainment or liberals.

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<v Speaker 1>There was just this movie come out about elite hunting down,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, deplorables or maybe even Trump supporters under attack. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>conservatives have felt under attack for a long time. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying that that might have played into this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>mentality a little bit. Was he right in doing it?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not. But the only thing that we can control

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<v Speaker 1>was how we respond to things. I have no issue

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<v Speaker 1>with defending one's family, wife, kids, But it didn't cross

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<v Speaker 1>that line. Cuoma could have walked away and it would

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<v Speaker 1>all have gone away, and he wouldn't be fraid over life.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Jesse Kelly and Sean Parnell. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to come back in a moment team and discuss the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of a deal in Afghanistan with the Taliban. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to switch to a topic that actually matters

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<v Speaker 1>from one that's just sort of fun to mess around

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. We'll get into something real here in a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>so stay with us for that. All right, everyone, we're

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<v Speaker 1>back with my friends Sean Parnell, author of All Out War,

1:22:08.080 --> 1:22:10.280
<v Speaker 1>which you can get on Amazon or anywhere books are sold.

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<v Speaker 1>Also our friend Jesse Kelly, host of the Jesse Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>Show in Houston on KPRC Radio. Guys, looks like we

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<v Speaker 1>may have in the emphasis on May, a deal to

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<v Speaker 1>end the war in Afghanistan. But the deal is mostly okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna leave Taliban, and here's what the phases

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be. Let's start with Let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse here. I mean, you guys both are former military.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse was a marine, Sean was an Army ranger. But Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about about if if it does

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<v Speaker 1>turn into we're just leaving, is that the right move

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<v Speaker 1>under whatever circumstances? DoD Yes, Let's get out before we

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<v Speaker 1>lose another single troop over there. Let's get out now,

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I know it's going to be a deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the Taliban and people are gonna yell about that,

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<v Speaker 1>but let me inform all of you something and I

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<v Speaker 1>know this is going to make you uncomfortable. The Taliban

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<v Speaker 1>are going to win. We are not going to win.

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<v Speaker 1>The Taliban or one hundred percent committed. They're as strong

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<v Speaker 1>now as they've ever been. They're going to win. We

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<v Speaker 1>know this already, which makes every single loss of life

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<v Speaker 1>over there ten times as tragic when you already know

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<v Speaker 1>the war is lost. Pe allowed get out. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>two decades there, Cyanara. Hopefully we never seen it yet.

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<v Speaker 1>San what you got well? I mean, how does that

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<v Speaker 1>make it any different than Saigon? You know, than us

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<v Speaker 1>leaving Saigon in the Vietnam War. I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>that I would like, Look, I'm with you. I want

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<v Speaker 1>out of Afghanistan just as bad as you do, Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>I really do. I think that if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a peace deal, though, the thing that bothers me

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<v Speaker 1>the most are two things about this afgan peace deal.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that there is not good there's no ceasefire required, Okay, yaw.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you have a peace deal if there's not a

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<v Speaker 1>comprehensive ceasefire in the wake of signing that treaty or

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<v Speaker 1>in the wake of signing that deal. Number one, Number two,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Taliban. As you might say, yeah, the feminists,

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<v Speaker 1>not the ek but but so yeah, but listen, But

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<v Speaker 1>that's my point. My point is a peace deal has

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<v Speaker 1>to require a ceasefire, and you cannot put on the

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<v Speaker 1>table from the very beginning that you're withdrawing one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent of US troops the people who would essentially be

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<v Speaker 1>the strength and the piece behind any deal that you sign.

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<v Speaker 1>And the third point that I'm gonna make is that

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<v Speaker 1>this deal only only, and it only calls to the

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<v Speaker 1>table the Afghan Taliban. It doesn't call into question the

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<v Speaker 1>Pakistani Taliban, and the Pakistani Taliban are the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>are calling all the problems on the border. They're the

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<v Speaker 1>ones striking into the heart of Afghanistan. This, this piece

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<v Speaker 1>treaty does not speak for them and therefore not worth

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<v Speaker 1>the paper that it's written on. I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>out out of Afghanistan just as much as you do, Jesse.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the way we withdraw matters, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think the way that we're doing it now is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a short term victory for Trump, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>it will be a nightmare for him in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>You watches every Democratic candidate throws this the monumental failure

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<v Speaker 1>that Afghanistan will become of America pulls out. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see one base topple after the next, and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see entire candex turnover to the Taliban side if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a wholesale withdrawal there. Part Part two, Jesse, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you got? I'd say the real tragedy of Hugh mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>a solid of the fall of Saigon and Vietnam? Part two?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what those Vietnam guys saying? I know, Sean?

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<v Speaker 1>Does I know you? You talked to them all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>The major major tragedy of Vietnam was not losing the war.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all the guys we lost in the last

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<v Speaker 1>two or three years. We know the war was already lost.

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<v Speaker 1>Throwing bodies at people for a cause that is lost.

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<v Speaker 1>The cause is already lost. Get them out now. Afganiston

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<v Speaker 1>is a dump. Now there was a dump before, and

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be a dump after we leave. That sucks. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't an account of pleasure to say so. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want a single other parent to get a notification

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<v Speaker 1>in the mail that they just lost their baby. Bring

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<v Speaker 1>them all home with the chiss bowl, their mad anything

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<v Speaker 1>to close on that, Sean Well, I would say that

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<v Speaker 1>the tragic loss of life life in Vietnam is because

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<v Speaker 1>the last two years of the war the politicians were

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<v Speaker 1>right in the middle and they weren't fighting it the

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<v Speaker 1>right way. I mean, I would call in our politicians

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<v Speaker 1>to really come up with a good, comprehensive and for

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<v Speaker 1>withdrawing Afghanistans so that our troops aren't fighting with both

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<v Speaker 1>hands behind their back, They're not throwing their body needlessly

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<v Speaker 1>into a meat grinder where they where any parents is

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<v Speaker 1>going to get a letter home from another loss of life.

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<v Speaker 1>My point is is that this Afghan deal has to

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<v Speaker 1>be worth the paper that is printed on and right

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<v Speaker 1>now isn't. And I'd rather see us withdraw under the

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<v Speaker 1>right circumstances than withdraw under circumstances that feed all of

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<v Speaker 1>Afghanistan back to the Taliban wholesale. All right, gentlemen, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to see how how it actually shakes out. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, just give us a little bit of an update, Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>you got any book signs and then coming up, Jesse Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>you just walking around being Jesse Kelly Shawn You first, Well,

1:26:37.680 --> 1:26:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I've got a brand new book coming out and jess

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<v Speaker 1>under three weeks. It's all out war. It's available for

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<v Speaker 1>pre order and Amazon or anywere books are sold. It

1:26:43.760 --> 1:26:45.240
<v Speaker 1>would mean the world to me if you want out

1:26:45.240 --> 1:26:47.479
<v Speaker 1>and pre ordered it. Pre Orders are important for young

1:26:47.520 --> 1:26:49.960
<v Speaker 1>authors like me, so anything that you could do to

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<v Speaker 1>support my cause would be greatly appreciated. Alrighty, and mister

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Kelly, look, I'm already important enough. It would just

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<v Speaker 1>be in the lot to me of someone out and

1:26:59.320 --> 1:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>bib there we go. Look at that reaching across all

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<v Speaker 1>six foot six foot eleven of him. To make sure

1:27:07.160 --> 1:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>that our buddy Sean Parnell sells some books. And by

1:27:11.040 --> 1:27:13.040
<v Speaker 1>the way, you better have cool people play both of

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<v Speaker 1>us in the movie, Sean. That's all I'm telling you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I will, You know I will. I've made this promise before. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's you know, I don't know. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to find one of those one of those guys

1:27:23.439 --> 1:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>from Eastern Europe who's in the NBA for Jesse Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know, you know, I can't think

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<v Speaker 1>of anything little the top of my head, but there

1:27:30.240 --> 1:27:32.320
<v Speaker 1>are a few of them. And then for me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we could do the guy from Parks and rec I'm

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<v Speaker 1>playing myself. I don't know what you're talking about. There

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<v Speaker 1>we go, Gentleman, Always a pleasure. Sean Parnell, author of

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<v Speaker 1>Total All Out War rather UH and Total War All

1:27:48.479 --> 1:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Out War, which you can get on Amazon. And then

1:27:50.880 --> 1:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>our friend Jesse Kelly listened to his show Dan and

1:27:53.160 --> 1:27:57.439
<v Speaker 1>KPRC Houston. You can also download Jesse Kelly show on podcast. Gentleman,

1:27:57.479 --> 1:28:00.439
<v Speaker 1>A pleasure. Thank you so much for joining to take

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<v Speaker 1>care man. We got a lot of a lot of

1:28:04.680 --> 1:28:07.360
<v Speaker 1>dudes talking in the third hour here in the Buck

1:28:07.400 --> 1:28:09.439
<v Speaker 1>Saccon show tonight. We covered a lot of ground, lot

1:28:09.479 --> 1:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>of territory. There. We one serious subject and one just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm amazed at how much people really seem to care

1:28:16.400 --> 1:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>about the whole Fredo Chris Quomo. This is this is

1:28:19.640 --> 1:28:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Chris Cuomo's viral moment being a total maniac. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm you know how I feel about this. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that speaking the way that he did was excessive,

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think that people shouldn't act like jerks

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<v Speaker 1>in public. So we got more coming up before we

1:28:36.000 --> 1:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>get a roll call. I wanted to bring a new

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<v Speaker 1>story to your attention that is a harbinger of things

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<v Speaker 1>to come and it matters. It's important. You have had

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<v Speaker 1>in the last week or so a number of high

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<v Speaker 1>profile Senate Democrats who have been warning that the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court needs to get itself together to quote take steps

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<v Speaker 1>to heal or else people will the Democrats, I assume here,

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<v Speaker 1>will take action. The Supreme Court is not well and

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<v Speaker 1>the people know it. According to a brief filed that

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<v Speaker 1>was on Monday, this was in a case related to

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<v Speaker 1>a New York City gun law. You had Sheldon white House, Bloomenthal, Horrono,

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Durban, and Kirsen gillibrand all of them part of

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<v Speaker 1>this brief, and they're saying the Supreme Court has an

1:29:43.400 --> 1:29:51.360
<v Speaker 1>affliction that must be addressed. This, my friends, is a

1:29:51.960 --> 1:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>straight up nice Supreme Court. There be a shame if

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<v Speaker 1>something happened to it. Warning this is trying to influence

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<v Speaker 1>the Court from the outside by threatening openly. And these

1:30:03.880 --> 1:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>are members of the United States Senate. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>just some random group of trolls coming together who think

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to be able to frighten Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>justices into acting differently than they would otherwise. These are

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<v Speaker 1>people who have the power, at least theoretically the legislative

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<v Speaker 1>branch could take action to reform the court. This is

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<v Speaker 1>talked about with some regularity by liberals. Anytime there's a

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<v Speaker 1>decision from the Supreme Court they don't like. Anytime there

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<v Speaker 1>is a problem, they don't get the ruling that they want.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not based on what the laws, it's based on

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<v Speaker 1>what they want the law to be. They start talking

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<v Speaker 1>about court packing. And some of the twenty twenty candidates

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<v Speaker 1>have been part of this conversation. The Democrats have been

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<v Speaker 1>part of this conversation in the past. You've had candidates

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<v Speaker 1>including Beto O'Rourke, Corey Booker, Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Ris Kirsten,

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<v Speaker 1>Julia Brand. They've all talked about a willingness to change

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<v Speaker 1>the number of Supreme Court justices, to rebalance it, as

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<v Speaker 1>they would put it, so that it's liberal folks. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all that means, balance to what they want, a left

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<v Speaker 1>wing majority on the court, or else they'll change the court.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the same people, the same politicians. Is the

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<v Speaker 1>same political party, the Democrats, the left that lecture us

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<v Speaker 1>constantly about how Trump is undermining institutions. What institution is

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<v Speaker 1>a more is it more dangerous or more egregious danger

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<v Speaker 1>of violation than the Supreme Court when you have members

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States Senate who are openly talking about

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<v Speaker 1>changing it because they don't like the decisions that it makes.

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<v Speaker 1>You might recall that many of you who look back

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<v Speaker 1>in your history will remember that was discussed openly also

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<v Speaker 1>by FDR, who had more than a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>tyrannical streak in him. As much as we're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>think that he's the savior of America and the New

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<v Speaker 1>Deal and all this other really hagiography around him. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he also put Japanese Americans in interman camps, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>always a footnote for the Libs. They don't really care.

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<v Speaker 1>He created the massive federal bureaucracy that now seeks to

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<v Speaker 1>control every day to day aspect of our lives, at

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<v Speaker 1>least if we let it. But I just think this

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<v Speaker 1>is fascinating. This is such a delusion. Pete Buddha Judge,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, has proposed a plan to have some justices

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<v Speaker 1>appointed by the president and others selected by other judges.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's got a whole other plan here to quote,

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<v Speaker 1>de politicize it. Depoliticize the Supreme Court. The people that

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<v Speaker 1>want to change the makeup of the Supreme Court. Are

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<v Speaker 1>the same ones who think that Roe v. Wade is

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<v Speaker 1>sound law. Again, forget about what your policy preference may

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<v Speaker 1>be for abortion or no abortion. Roe v. Wade is

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<v Speaker 1>alchemy with the law. It's fakery. It created a right,

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<v Speaker 1>a constitution right where none existed before, because they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>it to be there. And that's it. And they've done

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<v Speaker 1>it with other things too. And if the law doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean what it says, then what are we even talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Then the law is just, and then everything is mob

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<v Speaker 1>rule and the Supreme Court just becomes a weather vein

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<v Speaker 1>that goes in whatever direction mob opinion wants it to

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<v Speaker 1>at any point in time. It's not what it's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to do. But clearly that is what liberals wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>They are still seething over the dcv. Heller decision, which

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<v Speaker 1>could not be more clear. Speaking of Cuomo, he really

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<v Speaker 1>does have the constitutional jurisprudence of an eighth grader who

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<v Speaker 1>has never read the Constitution. He thinks that the right

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<v Speaker 1>to bear arms was never a private right. This was

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<v Speaker 1>before his whole blow up on social media. He was

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<v Speaker 1>saying that just a few days ago, I saw this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is such idiocy that the Bill of Rights is

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<v Speaker 1>about individual rights of people. The right to bear arms

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<v Speaker 1>in a group as defined by the government would be

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<v Speaker 1>no right to bear arms at all. This is absurd,

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<v Speaker 1>but they try to contort the law to mean whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they want it to mean. Keep in mind, you also

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<v Speaker 1>have people now that believe that the laws that we

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<v Speaker 1>currently have on the books for immigration don't count. Why

1:34:36.360 --> 1:34:43.400
<v Speaker 1>because they say so. Nothing more sophisticated than that. But

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<v Speaker 1>now you have Democrats trying to at least appeal to

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<v Speaker 1>their base. I think they are serious. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>they had the votes to do this, they would. There

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<v Speaker 1>are plenty of Democrats who are such petty authoritarians that

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<v Speaker 1>they would restructure the Supreme Court itself to suit their

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<v Speaker 1>policy desires and think that they were the ones who

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<v Speaker 1>were defending our institutions in the process because they're delusional.

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<v Speaker 1>Rock and roll, fellow patriots, we made ours go up

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<v Speaker 1>to eleven. It's time for roll call Facebook dot com

1:35:37.000 --> 1:35:40.400
<v Speaker 1>slash Buck Sexton. That is how you get in on

1:35:40.560 --> 1:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>the roll call action, as you know. So here we go,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean writes, Hey, Buck, not sure why, but I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 1>any I'm not seeing any new podcasts on Google play

1:35:52.840 --> 1:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Music after June twenty seventh, did you stop posting to them? Sean,

1:35:56.880 --> 1:35:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I think we are no longer on Google play Music,

1:36:00.000 --> 1:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not sure. Producer Mark can probably answer that question.

1:36:05.000 --> 1:36:07.240
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, if you're not seeing it, we're probably probably

1:36:07.240 --> 1:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>got to get on the iHeart app platform or iTunes

1:36:12.120 --> 1:36:16.559
<v Speaker 1>or I think we're on Soundcinding Stitcher. I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many of them out there these days. Tough

1:36:18.720 --> 1:36:20.559
<v Speaker 1>to know. I got to figure out where we are up.

1:36:20.800 --> 1:36:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll learn all these things. Jim, your analysis is spot

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<v Speaker 1>on as usual, Buck, as a medical professional working for

1:36:28.880 --> 1:36:32.160
<v Speaker 1>a very large insurance company, the only way to control

1:36:32.240 --> 1:36:35.519
<v Speaker 1>prices is to remove all the government intrusion and let

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<v Speaker 1>the free market work. It's magic. Very Welsh said, Shields

1:36:39.760 --> 1:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>High from Dallas. Well, Jim, thank you very much, and

1:36:42.640 --> 1:36:46.840
<v Speaker 1>yeah that the economics on this are pretty clear. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the now. Next up here we have Harry Harry Rights. Hey, Buck,

1:36:55.320 --> 1:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you speak about the federal budget and disregard for fiscal prudence.

1:36:58.240 --> 1:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>It is important to keep in mind how news speak

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<v Speaker 1>has crept into the discussion. They talk about mandatory and

1:37:04.920 --> 1:37:10.120
<v Speaker 1>discretionary spending went constitutionally pretty much everything that is now

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<v Speaker 1>classified as discretionary is mandated by the US Constitution, military,

1:37:17.040 --> 1:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>national security, Post Office, Rhodes, custom patents, immigration, naturally, well,

1:37:23.120 --> 1:37:26.920
<v Speaker 1>all that is considered mandatory, there are expenses that are

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<v Speaker 1>added by various mostly unconstitutional Acts of Congress, social Security, Medicare,

1:37:32.240 --> 1:37:35.800
<v Speaker 1>and medicaid. I believe this is important to keep in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Shields Hi, Harry, all right, Harry, thank you, Patrick. Rights.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Jason Isabel yesterday, not Isabel. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>former member of the band Drive By Truckers. His comment

1:37:52.760 --> 1:37:54.840
<v Speaker 1>on guns is very hypocritical. I'll give you a short

1:37:54.920 --> 1:37:59.919
<v Speaker 1>quip of their lyrics. Don't blank off the boys from Alabama.

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<v Speaker 1>You know they won't let it slide. They might find

1:38:03.080 --> 1:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>your body in the Tennessee River, or they might not

1:38:05.120 --> 1:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>find you it up. Blah blah blah. Okay. A lot

1:38:08.080 --> 1:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>of people will say that they're ashamed to have been

1:38:11.520 --> 1:38:14.439
<v Speaker 1>They're ashamed Jason is from Alabama. Okay, Patrick, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for sending us in appreciated Karen, you're talking to yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>about some of Trump's personal choice a personnel pardon me,

1:38:22.280 --> 1:38:25.599
<v Speaker 1>personnel choices is a very different topic. Just found out

1:38:25.640 --> 1:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that Betsy Divas and James Madis both were investors in Pharaonos.

1:38:30.680 --> 1:38:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Divas lost one hundred million dollars, only a small part

1:38:34.880 --> 1:38:37.320
<v Speaker 1>of her wealth. But still, I listened to all the

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<v Speaker 1>episodes of the Dropout podcast produced by ABC, fascinating Karen.

1:38:42.160 --> 1:38:46.280
<v Speaker 1>A lot of very sophisticated and wealthy people lost a

1:38:46.400 --> 1:38:51.840
<v Speaker 1>tremendous amount of money in that pharaonostibacle. I believe Rupert

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<v Speaker 1>Murdoch lost over one hundred million dollars. The person that,

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<v Speaker 1>for me in that whole situation comes out looking like

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<v Speaker 1>he had the word judgment is the former Secretary of

1:39:05.800 --> 1:39:10.400
<v Speaker 1>State Schultz, George Schultz, just because he went against his

1:39:10.520 --> 1:39:14.439
<v Speaker 1>own family. He thought his grandson was the crazy one.

1:39:14.680 --> 1:39:18.360
<v Speaker 1>And Elizabeth Holmes was this magician who was going to

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<v Speaker 1>change global change, global medicine. And I would just note that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you look at Elizabeth Holmes a video of her,

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't understand she must have some secret power

1:39:33.360 --> 1:39:36.320
<v Speaker 1>that she can use with certain people, because to me,

1:39:36.439 --> 1:39:39.880
<v Speaker 1>she always seemed like a crazy person who was putting

1:39:39.920 --> 1:39:44.760
<v Speaker 1>on a character act. And there's nothing confidence inspiring or

1:39:44.800 --> 1:39:48.680
<v Speaker 1>appealing about her, and yet everybody who was around her

1:39:48.720 --> 1:39:50.160
<v Speaker 1>seemed to fall for this or at least most of

1:39:50.240 --> 1:39:58.799
<v Speaker 1>them did. It's just absolutely bizarre. So yeah, let's see Katie.

1:40:00.120 --> 1:40:04.800
<v Speaker 1>She writes something about a here we Go Today. Rush

1:40:04.920 --> 1:40:07.599
<v Speaker 1>was talking about the political capital the media is raising

1:40:07.640 --> 1:40:10.880
<v Speaker 1>with their reporting. Makes people feel helpless, so they say,

1:40:10.920 --> 1:40:14.559
<v Speaker 1>what can we do? So the social justice war organizations say,

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<v Speaker 1>give us money after the ice rates here in Mississippi,

1:40:19.479 --> 1:40:23.120
<v Speaker 1>they are raising capital with things like the Mississippi Center

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<v Speaker 1>for Justice. Well, yeah, absolutely, and people try to get

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<v Speaker 1>their organizations bottom line looking better as soon as they

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<v Speaker 1>have a news story that fits into a narrative that

1:40:33.160 --> 1:40:38.519
<v Speaker 1>they can use. So I think that's very much the case, David,

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<v Speaker 1>hey Buck, In a perfect world, wouldn't they just release

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<v Speaker 1>the video from Epstein's cell Instead the powers that be

1:40:46.720 --> 1:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>have to take us on this wild media circus and

1:40:49.000 --> 1:40:52.679
<v Speaker 1>all the giant talking heads get involved and everybody attacks Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep up the great work, brother, Take care of Dave. Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>My understanding is they don't have a cell camera. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have them in the cells. They have them for

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<v Speaker 1>entry and exit to the cells, but they don't actually

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<v Speaker 1>have the person constantly under a camera surveillance. I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe that in reality TV shows even they have cameras

1:41:14.160 --> 1:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>in the bedrooms, but they promise not to show any

1:41:17.760 --> 1:41:22.160
<v Speaker 1>naughty stuff, but they don't have them in cells, So

1:41:22.920 --> 1:41:24.720
<v Speaker 1>that's what we've been led to believe. There wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>camera malfunction that was an issue reported on the whole

1:41:28.040 --> 1:41:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Epstein suicide. There was just the absence of camera recording

1:41:32.200 --> 1:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>inside the cell. So take that as you will. My friends, Angela,

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Buckshields hide not surprised Jeff Epstein is dead. Can

1:41:43.120 --> 1:41:45.799
<v Speaker 1>we ever go on offense? Seems like we're always defending?

1:41:46.280 --> 1:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Did you read the article on the Baltimore cleanup? Are

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<v Speaker 1>the dam's ever going to be truthful? Angela, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if we're I mean, I think Trump is the

1:41:54.360 --> 1:41:57.080
<v Speaker 1>closest thing you're ever going to get to the right

1:41:57.280 --> 1:42:00.479
<v Speaker 1>on going on offense. So if you don't feel like

1:42:00.479 --> 1:42:02.439
<v Speaker 1>we're on offense now, you're gonna have to wait a

1:42:02.520 --> 1:42:06.000
<v Speaker 1>long time. And I did not see the Baltimore clean up,

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<v Speaker 1>but I appreciate it's from the Washington Examiner. I see

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<v Speaker 1>it here. I will take a look. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>sending it my way. Case Buck, I've been following this

1:42:17.800 --> 1:42:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Epstein deal and from working in a jail system, a

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<v Speaker 1>person doesn't get pulled off suicide Watch. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>the government will deal with these prison guards and prison

1:42:26.680 --> 1:42:29.280
<v Speaker 1>officials like they did the jailers and county officials in

1:42:29.439 --> 1:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Waller County, Texas after Sandra Bland. Probably not, Thanks and

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<v Speaker 1>keep up the good work, Shields High case man. I've

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<v Speaker 1>always thought that the sketchiest decision in the Epstein suicide

1:42:44.720 --> 1:42:47.439
<v Speaker 1>was the decision to take him off of suicide Watch.

1:42:47.439 --> 1:42:50.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if someone's already tried suicide, you're really going

1:42:50.600 --> 1:42:53.840
<v Speaker 1>to say, oh no, but that person's learned their lesson

1:42:53.960 --> 1:42:56.000
<v Speaker 1>a week or two later. It just seems very strange,

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<v Speaker 1>very strange to me. Oh, Gina, right, Haygan Buck, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>under you said Azar was the Labor secretary who let

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein off in the case, it was actually a Costa, right,

1:43:08.280 --> 1:43:12.400
<v Speaker 1>hate hate to correct you. Maybe I stand corrected, Shields High, No, Gina,

1:43:12.640 --> 1:43:16.240
<v Speaker 1>you're correct. Sorry, it's it's a Costa. If I said Asar,

1:43:16.280 --> 1:43:22.759
<v Speaker 1>I apologize. A Costa was the US attorney for Miami

1:43:22.880 --> 1:43:26.800
<v Speaker 1>who let Epstein off initially. So yep, there you there

1:43:26.880 --> 1:43:31.080
<v Speaker 1>you have it. Benny all Rights, Hey Buck, when you

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about the new movie The Hunt, and you

1:43:32.920 --> 1:43:35.280
<v Speaker 1>said it reminded me of another movie you. I knew

1:43:35.320 --> 1:43:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you were going to say, Ice TV. You said, Jean Claude.

1:43:38.240 --> 1:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see that one, but I could swear iceed

1:43:40.040 --> 1:43:41.920
<v Speaker 1>he was kidnapped and taken out in a wooded area

1:43:42.000 --> 1:43:44.439
<v Speaker 1>and was hunted. Love your show and listen to you

1:43:44.840 --> 1:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and Dan Hope that's not considered heresy Shields high Benny Well, Benny, No, absolutely, man,

1:43:52.080 --> 1:43:54.479
<v Speaker 1>it's a thank you for listening to me. I appreciate it,

1:43:55.040 --> 1:43:58.280
<v Speaker 1>and you know I am in good company with mister

1:43:58.400 --> 1:44:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Bongino there, And thank you for writing in. Yeah, the

1:44:02.560 --> 1:44:04.920
<v Speaker 1>movie that you're referred to, whoever else has been talking about.

1:44:06.400 --> 1:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't even know what it's called right now, but

1:44:08.640 --> 1:44:10.599
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about earlier in the week. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the one that I've seen more is The Van dem One.

1:44:12.320 --> 1:44:14.840
<v Speaker 1>But hunting human Beings is not a new plot line.

1:44:15.360 --> 1:44:17.519
<v Speaker 1>It's happened many, many times, and in fact, if you

1:44:17.640 --> 1:44:22.760
<v Speaker 1>look at the basic storyline, I mean, yeah, I know

1:44:22.840 --> 1:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>it's future and dystopia and all that, but even the

1:44:26.720 --> 1:44:30.439
<v Speaker 1>Hunger Games, which I did not understand why anybody thought

1:44:30.479 --> 1:44:34.360
<v Speaker 1>that that was a good movie, but people did. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Hunting Humans. Leonard Rights on the Hills Have Eyes. The

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<v Speaker 1>first and only time I watched that movie was two

1:44:41.240 --> 1:44:43.639
<v Speaker 1>thousand and six while I was at Officer Candidate school.

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<v Speaker 1>We had just completed our final field exercise and we're

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to watch TV for the first time about three

1:44:49.439 --> 1:44:52.960
<v Speaker 1>months while we cleaned our weapons and equipment. The ready

1:44:53.040 --> 1:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>room was well lit and the audience was about half

1:44:55.080 --> 1:44:58.599
<v Speaker 1>new guys to the army and half hardened veterans former NCOs,

1:44:58.680 --> 1:45:01.080
<v Speaker 1>almost all of whom had deployed in the Jewod, including me.

1:45:01.800 --> 1:45:04.479
<v Speaker 1>It was like a scene from Mystery Science Theater three thousand.

1:45:04.560 --> 1:45:07.640
<v Speaker 1>As the group found more and more outlandish ways to

1:45:07.760 --> 1:45:11.160
<v Speaker 1>parody the violence on scene, it is one on screen. Rather,

1:45:11.280 --> 1:45:14.040
<v Speaker 1>it is one of the best OCS memories I have.

1:45:14.200 --> 1:45:17.560
<v Speaker 1>All Right, Leonard, Well, I'm glad you enjoyed watching that

1:45:18.960 --> 1:45:21.200
<v Speaker 1>at least some of the circumstances. Sounds like you managed

1:45:21.240 --> 1:45:28.400
<v Speaker 1>to get something out of the situation. So there is that. Valerie,

1:45:29.760 --> 1:45:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Right's buck. Your show keeps me safe and warm at night.

1:45:32.200 --> 1:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. It's awesome. Well, Valorie, that's the perfect way

1:45:35.040 --> 1:45:38.160
<v Speaker 1>for us to settle things down here in the Freedom

1:45:38.280 --> 1:45:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Hunt today. That's a great message to close on. Thank

1:45:40.920 --> 1:45:45.280
<v Speaker 1>you everybody for listening. Like I said, we will be

1:45:45.680 --> 1:45:50.120
<v Speaker 1>out of New York City and wow, it'll be less

1:45:50.160 --> 1:45:53.720
<v Speaker 1>than two weeks now. So there my last days in

1:45:53.760 --> 1:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>the swamp. If you have any swamp requests, if you

1:45:57.040 --> 1:46:02.360
<v Speaker 1>want to see video of Buck in a Mancini going

1:46:02.479 --> 1:46:05.919
<v Speaker 1>down the National Mall en route to the Jefferson Memorial

1:46:06.640 --> 1:46:11.719
<v Speaker 1>waving American flags in both hands, eating a cheeseburger while

1:46:11.840 --> 1:46:14.080
<v Speaker 1>he has hands holding flat I'm just trying to think

1:46:14.120 --> 1:46:16.080
<v Speaker 1>of something crazy, folks. I don't know what I'm talking about,

1:46:16.120 --> 1:46:18.640
<v Speaker 1>but my last few days in the swamp coming up here.

1:46:18.760 --> 1:46:21.479
<v Speaker 1>So I got that going for me, which is nice.

1:46:22.360 --> 1:46:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Please do tell somebody about the Bucks acton show. Best

1:46:25.240 --> 1:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>thing you can do for me, most helpful thing you

1:46:27.000 --> 1:46:29.040
<v Speaker 1>can do for Team Buck. I will talk to you

1:46:29.080 --> 1:46:30.840
<v Speaker 1>all tomorrow. Shields high,