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Speaker 2: Now we're talking. Let that ride for a second, Nathan,

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Speaker 2: Now it feels like Christmas. Good evening, Stealer Nation, how

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Speaker 2: you do it? Well, that's good us too. Yeah, our

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Speaker 2: number two here feeling holly and jolly, merry and bright

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Speaker 2: as we are rolling along here on a Tuesday as

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Speaker 2: the afternoon turns to the evening. And with that, some

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Speaker 2: things will be different this week. Obviously with the holiday schedule,

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Speaker 2: we wanted to make sure to get to our weekly

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Speaker 2: Tuesday power rankings. A couple things that you can always

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Speaker 2: count on a Tuesday. Matt Ause, we're gonna run least,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna recap what Mike Tomlin said in the first

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Speaker 2: hour of the show. We're gonna talk some power rankings

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Speaker 2: and yeah, it's it's just a good opportunity to kind

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Speaker 2: of comment on other teams around the league. Team absolutely

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Speaker 2: Absolutelymber thirty two checking in from the basement where they've

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Speaker 2: been for a long time. It's the Las Vegas Raiders. Hey,

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Speaker 2: they had had one of their better games of the season.

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Speaker 3: Gino, it wasn't bad. Genty looked like the guy you

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Speaker 3: thought you were getting.

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Speaker 2: Gina had probably his best game in a while, like

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Speaker 2: since September yea, and Gent might have had his best

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Speaker 2: game of his rookie season.

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Speaker 3: Max Crosby was a wrecking machine too.

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Speaker 2: Right, And that's one of those like you'll you'll.

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Speaker 3: The guys you were hoping were good.

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Speaker 2: You'll laugh at this. I I play a little Madden.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a super Madden guy. I don't play nearly

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Speaker 2: when I was younger.

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Speaker 3: Fatherhood is something to do with that, absolutely, But.

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Speaker 2: Like one thing that my buddies still like to do

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Speaker 2: and that I do sometimes, like when it's you know,

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Speaker 2: the middle of April and I've got more free time

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Speaker 2: and I might I might play a little Madden or

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Speaker 2: something like that. It's like take a struggling organization, strip

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Speaker 2: like in franchise mode type thing. That's fine if you're

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Speaker 2: a Raiders, like you've got some pieces to like you

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Speaker 2: could get a haul for Max Crossby. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean you've got some pieces to strip down.

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Speaker 3: It's a big project, but there are some things.

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Speaker 2: To build around the Gentis and the Bowers, and so

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Speaker 2: who knows, it's gonna be a interesting offseason, tumultuous offseason

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Speaker 2: for them. I'm sure who knows what happens with Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 2: But the Raiders sticking at number thirty two, I've.

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Speaker 3: Gotten out there that though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, same, although I don't know the Giants checking in

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Speaker 3: Giants are pretty rough right now.

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Speaker 2: Maybe if those two teams were playing somewhere in Saint Louis,

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Speaker 2: you know, in the middle of Vegas and New York

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Speaker 2: maybe the Raiders would be favored by like a point.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not going to fight over the thirty first

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Speaker 3: You can't feel great about it from a Giants perspective, though,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you think, like Dart and a couple of

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Speaker 2: Nothing's really moving in their right direction. And I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you got cook is your quarterback, I

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Speaker 3: mean I think the Raiders with Gino might be that's

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Speaker 2: Point, yeah, and maybe even the Giants with whoever. Right,

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, we should start doing these things. At

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Speaker 2: the end of the year, you know, or the week

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Speaker 2: between the Super Bowl, have the have the toilet bowl

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Speaker 2: here for number one pick.

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Speaker 3: So that's like that's a defense right now too.

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Speaker 2: That's what we do in our fantasy football league to

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Speaker 2: keep the kind of bottom of the table team's bottom

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Speaker 2: of the standings teams interested is there's a consolation bracket

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Speaker 3: The opposite like my son's league that the loser goes

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Speaker 2: Oh, so are we do that. We do our draft

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Speaker 3: No one seems to be biting and frankly, I'd never

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're not. I knock on wood. I never

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Speaker 2: and I'm not going to do this year. I never have.

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Speaker 3: So, but I propose now that the loser has to

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Speaker 2: It's your guys, yeah, gathering when.

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Speaker 3: We go to like the honey honey, and yeah, that.

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Speaker 2: Would be fantastic. We've we've talked about you can get

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Speaker 2: like custom made license plate outlines that are like you know,

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Speaker 2: like bright highlighter letters and say, like I came in

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Speaker 2: last in my fantasy football league, that they have to

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Speaker 2: put around their license plate for a year, like we've

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Speaker 2: kicked We've kicked that around. But the Jets check in

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Speaker 2: at thirty Yeah, they're terrible too, They're terrible. The Browns

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Speaker 3: I actually did a lot more Brown's Bills work come

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Speaker 3: since we got together last and that game wasn't unattainable

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Speaker 3: losing him is fortuitous.

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Speaker 2: I guess me. Losing him ahead of my championship game

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Speaker 2: this weekend in fantasy was not the best timing either.

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Speaker 2: But hey, you'll have that uh quick for you. Just

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Speaker 2: across the timeline here, the Browns will not activate Deshaun

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure I we get more Browns conversations,

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Speaker 3: it's even more of an offseason conversation. But I don't

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Speaker 3: think Sanders can convince them that he's going to be

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Speaker 2: If you are the Browns and you have two first

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Speaker 2: being a capable backup fund, then it's worse. Exactly. If

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Speaker 2: for eight to ten years, it's worth it.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely worth it.

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Speaker 2: But it's they've seen so much line they do and

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Speaker 2: don't know, right, Let's build a nest up a little

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Speaker 2: bit here more. Maybe someone, hey, maybe someone makes you

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Speaker 3: To consider it.

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Speaker 2: I would think so. I would think so. A lot

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Speaker 2: of birds that stone, and you know, other organizations operate

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Speaker 2: different differently. Cleveland's probably looking at it is like, that's

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Speaker 2: our attraction, that's our calling card, that's the jerseys that

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Speaker 2: is he doing you? He's gonna win Defensive Player of

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Speaker 2: Matt the highest they've been in a long time, maybe

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Speaker 2: since like late September. It's the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 3: Ye, number twenty eight Titans would be ahead of all

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Speaker 3: these teams. Yes, they've like run the ball well. I

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Speaker 3: And I know the Chiefs weren't a shall of themselves,

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Speaker 3: but they won. Yeah, I mean before in this neighborhood

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Speaker 2: They won comfortably. Yeah, yeah, like by two or three scores.

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Speaker 2: I know I've said this before. I'll continue to say it.

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Speaker 2: Of all the bottom of the barrel, really bad teams,

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Speaker 2: like the bottom five, six, seven teams here in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: the total rebuilds, maybe the Commanders because of Daniels, but

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Speaker 2: I think i'd want the Titans.

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Speaker 3: You oh yeah, like of potential open jobs, of terrible teams,

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Speaker 3: like I don't think Washington's getting fired.

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Speaker 2: That's the one I want to want. Right, I've got

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Speaker 2: a quarterback. I've got draft capital. Jeffrey Simmons is a

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Speaker 2: like twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna play three, four, five, maybe six more years

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Speaker 3: I encouraging signs there. At least you.

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Speaker 2: Hit on a couple guys in the draft. You hit

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Speaker 2: on a couple free agents, And I'm not saying they're

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven is the Arizona Cardinals. I keep thinking, I

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Speaker 2: don't know how they're ahead of anybody. I mean, they've

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Speaker 2: lost eleven of their last twelve games.

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Speaker 2: It's very bad. I think maybe the Jets might be

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Speaker 2: would say that they would beat on a neutral field.

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Speaker 3: This weekend, I went too long thinking, boy, these guys

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Speaker 3: are better than this level team.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the roster not, but they're they're just not.

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Speaker 3: They've had a million different running backs, you know, there's

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Speaker 3: been a lot of guys in that lineup.

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Speaker 2: One and eleven since mid September. Oh that's that's or sorry,

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Speaker 2: one in twelve Since mid September, they've lost twelve of

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Speaker 2: their last thirteen games. Yeah, crawling to Cancun are the

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Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals. Twenty six the Washington Commanders. I think that's fine. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think they belong in this grouping of teams, which

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Speaker 2: is crazy cheering teams.

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Speaker 3: They would be in the bottom tier, but they're probably

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Speaker 3: the best of the bottom tier.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I don't know if they have a quicker

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Speaker 2: reset than the Titans. But they're a better team right

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Speaker 2: now than the Titans. That's not saying much. Number twenty

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Speaker 2: five down a few spots after getting spanked by the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: It's the Miami Dolphins. I didn't think Quinn yours was terrible,

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Speaker 2: can be a good solid backup for eight to ten years,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, that's what That's what I'm looking for. But

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna be much more than But

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Speaker 2: I would clearly.

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Speaker 3: Have these guys over all their teams we mentioned like

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Speaker 3: this might be the beginning of a new tier fair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know they've lost to in a row now

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Speaker 2: after showing some life, but I still think.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't say coming into the Steeler game is like, these

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Speaker 3: think they had a winning record at that point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah there's six and seven.

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Speaker 3: There were six and seven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they're better than the guys we mentioned.

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Speaker 3: No, I think their coach has done a good job

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Speaker 2: My only thing with them is like Cam Jordan and

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Speaker 3: Especially because your coach and probably your quarterback are going

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Speaker 2: all we're doing is falling down the draft board. I

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Speaker 3: No, and this particular draft, I don't think you're winning

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Speaker 2: Good point twenty three. The Cincinnati Bengals, Okay, fine, they

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Speaker 3: I mean, if anything, that'dppen higher. I mean, they're definitely better.

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Speaker 3: Burrow throwing a Chase and Higgins and Chase Brown doing

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Speaker 2: Like I might have them ahead of the Atlanta Falcons,

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Speaker 3: I would. I definitely would. Yeah. I think I can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 3: We give count Pits some credit though he's really blown up.

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Speaker 2: Or at least a Vikings type sit and hold down

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Speaker 3: Yeah for him in the first round pick or you know.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, twenty one. The Kansas City Chiefs drop one

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Speaker 3: No, And for the true nature of this exercise of

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Speaker 2: Are right now, they should probably be a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I say Bengals are favored against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: I think so with what might be favored against the

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Speaker 3: A low Olocon I always kill his name olodok. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's her quarterback. Ain't good?

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Speaker 2: Hey, he's a two time Super Bowl champion.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I guess he is.

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Speaker 2: I always laugh at that number twenty. The Dallas Cowboys, Yeah, yea.

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Speaker 3: The defense was a mess with that Quinn Williams. I mean,

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Speaker 3: on their good days they could hang with anyone. They're

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Speaker 2: They're still explosive. That is a good complict. They've got

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Speaker 2: it was in October.

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Speaker 3: Both those teams could put a lot of points up

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Speaker 2: Okay, they would probably beat the Chiefs. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 2: I think this is about right for Dallas checking in

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Speaker 2: at number twenty, number nineteen, up a couple spots after

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Speaker 3: I still would have probably the Bengals and Cowboys out

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Speaker 2: The situation, and again, McCarthy's availability is in doubt and

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Speaker 2: we're not in love with him, but he's better than

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Speaker 3: I'm in love with Dart, I'm not in love with McCarthy,

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Speaker 3: but these two have to learn how to stay on

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Speaker 3: They completely agree, and it's usually them putting themselves in

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Speaker 2: Number eighteen, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I do not know

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Speaker 3: Man, that might even be too high. They're not playing

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Speaker 2: think you talked about this yesterday. They've gotten some big

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Speaker 3: Top team. They know a good bit of the season.

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Speaker 2: Now they need to to win, Like the coaches.

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Speaker 2: Now they need to win these next two weeks to

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Speaker 2: And speaking of which, similar conversation for the team checking

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Speaker 3: The n Offensives. Really impressive last night. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: They're in trouble because the quarterback situation now is in flux,

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Speaker 3: They'll be a weird offseason.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it will certainly want to keep an eye on

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Speaker 3: After I would say they're a league average team.

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Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's fair. Like you could

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Speaker 3: Yeah, league avenue average sixteen, I'm cool with that.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen. The Detroit Lions, they fall a couple spots but

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Speaker 2: But they need the Packers to lose their next two

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Speaker 3: Who the next two or three teams are, But I

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Speaker 2: I would think. So Packers have the Ravens and then

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Speaker 2: It's not the easiest of routes for the Packers. The

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Speaker 3: I know the Bears have clinched, they spot, but they

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Speaker 2: I thought the Bears and the Packers played the final

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Speaker 3: No, they've played recently. They played, that's.

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Speaker 3: So Packers are favored in both games. Sounds like they're

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Lions. Part of me. Both of those are

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Speaker 3: Maybe scold was nothing to play for.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that might be all right with them, chance to

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Speaker 3: The Lions higher, I mean, it's the best offense in

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Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, I understand the kind of you know,

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Speaker 3: I know, But like.

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Speaker 2: Number fourteen is the Carolina Panthers. I mean, I get it.

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Speaker 3: It was round one of the playoffs and they went

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Speaker 2: Everyone's everyone's taking everyone's taking Detroit and Carolina checks in

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Speaker 2: But I also don't think it.

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Speaker 3: Has gotten so much better from a year ago. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Derek Brown is good on that defensive line.

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Speaker 3: Man scouting kid, the rookie second round pick has been

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Speaker 3: playing really well for them.

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Speaker 2: Two number thirteen, but number one in your hearts, the

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Haven't move everyone listed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I mean I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I definitely would definitely what all those teams.

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Speaker 2: Let's see who's in front of them here, the Packers

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Speaker 3: If it's Love, I'd have Packers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I'm with you on that. The Packers have

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Speaker 3: Trending in a great direction, No.

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Speaker 2: They are not. They're one of those teams that they're

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Speaker 3: Want to drop the tier in the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: And number eleven last outside of the top ten across

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Speaker 3: Seems a little harsh, but I mean, we know who

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does seem a little harsh, but let's get

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Speaker 3: I'm a big fan. This was not a great week

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Speaker 2: They didn't play they didn't play great.

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Speaker 3: No, they really didn't. I mean, the Bills and Texans

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Speaker 3: but they didn't play their best football either.

442
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Speaker 2: Number They couldn't run the ball, they could not know.

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Speaker 2: Number nine the LA Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Houston ahead of them, and I think i'd have

445
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Speaker 3: the Eagles ahead of them.

446
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Speaker 2: I think I would too, But man, like, they just

447
00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,120
Speaker 2: keep finding ways to win four straight wins despite losing

448
00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,720
Speaker 2: more people on the offensive line, Like it's insane. Herbert's

449
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 2: total study and should be getting more shout for MVP,

450
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Speaker 2: And I think getting o'mar and Hampton back in the

451
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Speaker 2: fold is gonna be. It's gonna be.

452
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Speaker 3: Young leg sometimes really pays off this time of year.

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Speaker 2: Matt. I don't get this one, and maybe it's just

454
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Speaker 2: a point of playoff standings, but NFL dot com has

455
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Speaker 2: the Rams dropping seven spots from one to eight, one

456
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Speaker 2: from after an overtime loss to Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Right, who's probably one in the racket.

458
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Speaker 2: I don't know if they're doing that just because they

459
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Speaker 2: have to go down to five in terms of the

460
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Speaker 2: playoff conversation, but I don't care where I don't get

461
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Speaker 2: dropping a team seven spots for losing to the number

462
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Speaker 2: two team in overtime in their building.

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Speaker 3: I think they'd be favored in Seattle this week. I

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Speaker 3: mean by two or something like they were.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have the Rams at number two or three,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to fight.

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Speaker 3: You, right, but they lost, they would be one for me.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it. Number seven the San Francisco forty

469
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Speaker 2: nine ers very impressive, so impressive. I mean, Shanahan should

470
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Speaker 2: be getting more shout for Coach of the Year.

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked he isn't. And Robert Sla I mean he

472
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Speaker 3: was a head coach a year ago for the Jets.

473
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Speaker 3: Is a phenomenal defense.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes people forget, like when these head coaches don't really

476
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Speaker 3: succeed and they go back to what they were great

477
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Speaker 3: at to become a head coach. I mean, he's losing

478
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Speaker 3: guys left and right, and that defense is.

479
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Speaker 2: Still down like four starters on that five starters on

480
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Speaker 2: that defense at one point into the young guys at

481
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Speaker 2: one point in the season they had five and they've

482
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Speaker 2: gotten some guys back, but they had five rookies starting

483
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Speaker 2: on that defense at one point this season.

484
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Speaker 3: Bosa and Warner, two of the guns out. It's not

485
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Speaker 3: like it's your nickelback.

486
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Speaker 2: Two of the best in the world at their craft.

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Speaker 3: And the offense is really clicking right now, you know.

488
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Speaker 2: But you lost your future Hall of Fame left tackle

489
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Speaker 2: for a period of time. You lost brock party for

490
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Speaker 2: a period of time, like.

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Speaker 3: Kittle was out early. Yeah, yeah, it's been.

492
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Speaker 2: McCaffrey missed some time, like it's been. They've been hit

493
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Speaker 2: as hard by injuries as anybody. And they are eleven

494
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Speaker 2: and four. It's impressive staying at number six with a

495
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Speaker 2: thrilling overtime victory over the Packers.

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Speaker 3: It's the Bears, okay, but like the Rams are better

497
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Speaker 3: than I mean, the Rams are better than everyone in

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Speaker 3: my opinion. Bears versus Niners a conversation for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so. I'm alright with the Bears

500
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Speaker 2: having the slight edge up just because they're healthier, but

501
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Speaker 2: the Niners might have the experience. They do have the

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Speaker 2: experience element on Chicago.

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Speaker 3: And a who lot of fighting with that, Matt, the

504
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Speaker 3: Rams is the one I have bugging me same.

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Speaker 2: The Bears eleven and four, right of their eleven wins,

506
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Speaker 2: six of them, they've trailed at the two minute warning.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know, isn't that nuts? Insane? I remember when

508
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Speaker 3: I did Matt stats for Bears, it was like four

509
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Speaker 3: of them they're trailing there. Wow, that's a ton that's

510
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Speaker 3: kept up.

511
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 2: Dangerous way to live, like, oh, you can ride that tiger,

512
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Speaker 2: and sometimes the tiger bites you. But there's also something

513
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 2: to be able to set, something to be said for

514
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Speaker 2: not blinking in those situations.

515
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Speaker 3: I think it's good for Caleb Williams development. I mean,

516
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Speaker 3: he won't happen like this every year. That could be

517
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 3: the best ever insurance situations. You know, hey, you never know, right,

518
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 3: someone's gotta be.

519
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Speaker 2: Someone's gotta be. Number five is the Jacks Jags eleven and.

520
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Speaker 3: Four ahead of Denver or below Denver.

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Speaker 2: A statement performance by Jacksonville as they go to one

522
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Speaker 2: of the better teams in the league, one of the

523
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Speaker 2: tougher environments in the league, and they win comfortably.

524
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Speaker 3: I'm not usually a believer in this, like, if you

525
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Speaker 3: just lose to somebody, you should be below them, blah

526
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Speaker 3: blah blah. But I think in this case, it's late

527
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Speaker 3: in the year, they should be ahead of Denver.

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Speaker 2: I do too, Yeah, ten touchdowns.

529
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Speaker 3: In Denver uh, Lawrence has been phenomenal.

530
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Speaker 2: He's been unbelievable, ten touchdowns in his last two games.

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Speaker 2: Jags are on a six game win streak.

532
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what don't we like?

533
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Speaker 2: And number four is the Denver Broncos. Yeah. I flip

534
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Speaker 2: flopped those teams. I get it. It's like the ap

535
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 2: pole thing of you know, like then you're gonna have

536
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: Notre Dame ahead of Miami when Miami beat Notre Dame,

537
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Speaker 2: you know or whatever. But yeah, this just happened two

538
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Speaker 2: days ago.

539
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Speaker 3: I said, it's so fresh, I at least would flip

540
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Speaker 3: those two.

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Speaker 2: But whatever, they're four and five. They're right next to

542
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 2: you said yesterday.

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Speaker 3: My opinion at Denver hasn't changed because of that game.

544
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 3: It's not like, oh I'm so much.

545
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 2: More working correct, right, But I would say, though, that

546
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: defense better better get it buttoned up quickly. Yeah, you know,

547
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: because that's not the time to be to be getting

548
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 2: gashed like that. Number three the Buffalo Bills. It's as

549
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Speaker 2: high as we've seen them in a long time.

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Speaker 3: They weren't very good this past week.

551
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Speaker 2: They weren't and I realized, you know, they're they want

552
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Speaker 2: six straight games. I think Patriots checking at number two,

553
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Speaker 2: and then the Seahawks at number one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, eh, Buffalo is pretty strong. I mean they're the

555
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Speaker 3: string wins together at the right time, and they got

556
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Speaker 3: the they got the best, dude. You know that they're

557
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Speaker 3: the best player that's going to be in the playoffs

558
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Speaker 3: for sure, if not the best player walking the planet

559
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 3: right now. Yeah, that carries some weight when all these

560
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 3: teams are flawed, there's a lot of weight.

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Speaker 2: It's it sure does. Yeah, I don't hate that spot

562
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 2: for Buffalo. I don't know if I love the Patriots

563
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: at number two, but me too the way Drake mays.

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Speaker 3: I could have put Jacksonville over Buffalo. Agree, you know, Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Like, if if I were doing this, the Seahawks, the Rams,

566
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Speaker 2: and the Bills would be my top three teams.

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Speaker 3: I would go Ram, Seahawks, and then I'm not sure

568
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Speaker 3: who my three.

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Speaker 2: Would I think I would go Seahawks Rams just because

570
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Speaker 2: of the recent cy of that game, but I might

571
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Speaker 2: go Buffalo three. I don't know, though Jacksonville deserves a shout.

572
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: A couple other teams of the NFC deserve shout same. Yeah,

573
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Speaker 2: so I might just go with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I wouldn't have any problem with anyone that

575
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Speaker 3: made that vote.

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Speaker 2: Rams hate though, really bugs me. What are we doing here?

577
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Speaker 2: What are we doing here? All right? There's our power

578
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Speaker 2: rankings week sixteens? Are we seventeen edition?

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Speaker 3: Charbonnay doesn't have happened to pick up the two point conversion?

580
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 3: And the Rams are one? Still? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And you got the Rams at three or four, I

582
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Speaker 2: wouldn't fight you, yeah.

583
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Speaker 3: And then put them back to one next week he

584
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Speaker 3: beat somebody bad or whatever.

585
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Speaker 2: You drop them seven spots after an overtime loss on

586
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Speaker 2: the road to the team now with the best record

587
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Speaker 2: and football. Yeah, I don't. I don't get it, but.

588
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Speaker 3: Hey, you got the MVP probably you know.

589
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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. I still think I would take the Rams

590
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Speaker 2: with If the Rams were getting the eighth best odds

591
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Speaker 2: to win the Super Bowl, I'd take that bet right now.

592
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Speaker 2: I put every dollar bet right now. Some more moving

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Speaker 2: and shaking as we roll along. Here. We got a

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Speaker 2: couple of Steelers that were recently named to the Pro Bowl. Here,

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Speaker 2: we got some tweets to get to before we get

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Speaker 2: up out of here. So we'll do all that as

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Speaker 2: we roll along. Euler Williamson The Drive Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tune's about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are bouncing into the holiday season, into Christmas week

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Speaker 2: here on the Drive. Well Shuler and Matt Williamson with

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Speaker 2: you for two more segments here before we take a

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Speaker 2: couple of days off and let old Saint Nick slide

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Speaker 2: down the chimney. Matt, I a couple I guess off

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Speaker 2: the back of power rankings here and we're kind of

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Speaker 2: talking about around the league and everything. Let's just you

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Speaker 2: want to go ahead and pick the pick the Christmas

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Speaker 2: Day Slave games here, Yeah, and then we'll close with

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Speaker 2: some tweets and some final thing.

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Speaker 3: The first time I here perfect. That's what I like

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Speaker 3: to hear.

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Speaker 2: Three games, a trio of games on Christmas Day, uh

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Speaker 2: two on Netflix, one on Prime Video. The first one

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Speaker 2: o'clock the Commander's host the Cowboys at Northwest Stadium in Landover, Maryland,

616
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Speaker 2: Dallas a touchdown favorite.

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Speaker 3: So this is gonna apply to all three of these games.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of teams don't have much to play for.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs are on or out of quarterbacks like Will

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Speaker 3: Kelsey play.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Lions are only one of these six teams.

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Speaker 2: Really happened, Matt the Broncos. I guess technically because the

623
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Speaker 2: one seed and all that stuffy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean where in terms of seeding it matters. Yeah,

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00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: good point. But my point was going to be, like

626
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Speaker 3: the Chiefs or Washington. I mean, they're a standalone game.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying they won't block the guy in front

628
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Speaker 3: of them, but like, is how much does it mean

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Speaker 3: to them? Does it? They treat it like every other game?

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs is the most interesting one.

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Speaker 3: Chiefs one. And this is more of a coaching staff

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Speaker 3: who do you arrest? Who plays type of conversation, not

633
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Speaker 3: like might run my routheheard? Or am I going to

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Speaker 3: tackle this guy or not? You know.

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Speaker 2: Five times in the last seven years, the Chiefs have

636
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Speaker 2: been to the Super Bowl. Seven times. In the last

637
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: seven years, they've been to the AFC Championship Game.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was really thinking.

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Speaker 2: Now you're six and nine and it's Christmas and it's cold.

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Speaker 3: Like, is that organization just gonna be fine losing third?

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Speaker 3: You to nothing?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: On Christmas Day? Maybe right now they have the eleventh

644
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Speaker 3: pick in the draft. They can end up with like seven.

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00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: I mean, that could be exactly what that organization get.

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Speaker 2: Lord, don't don't give them Jordan Tyson.

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Speaker 3: Don't know, they get like the best receiver.

648
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: Or Tate or Tyson as edge.

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Speaker 3: Rusher in the draft. Yeah, don't like it.

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Speaker 2: Don't like it one bit. Uh. I'll take Dallas minus

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Speaker 2: seven nine two. The Cowboys always show up in these

652
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: national TV holiday the offensive, and they can score. They

653
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: can score plenty of points. Midday game four thirty also

654
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Speaker 2: on Netflix in Minneapolis, where weather will not be a

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Speaker 2: factor because it is, of course in the indoor US

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Speaker 2: Bank Stadium in Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard about McCarthy or not, have not heard.

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Speaker 2: About his status. Yeah, still very early for that. But

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00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: what we do know is that the Lions are six

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Speaker 2: point road favorites in Minnesota currently.

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00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna take the Lions here like I can't

662
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: imagine same. They get out rushed by a heavy, heavy load. Again,

663
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: I know Minnesota's defense is good, but it's familiar to

664
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 3: these guys. They have a lot to play for.

665
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: They still do have a playoff birth to play for.

666
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: And it actually looks like McCarthy is out with a

667
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: hairline fracture. In his hand. According according to TV, so yeah,

668
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: give me, in fact, lock that in now.

669
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: Line that.

670
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: Moves to seven and a half or eight, lock that

671
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: one down.

672
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 3: Now they may win twenty they might.

673
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: That might be one of those ticked off Lions team

674
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: gets a lead early and just pedal to the medal.

675
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's like all these teams though, are short

676
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: week on the road's never good blah blah blah. Good point,

677
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: but they can't be happy with how that game ended. No,

678
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: they're gonna be coming back with a vengeance.

679
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: They're gonna be honked off, as a wolf would have said.

680
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: And the teams that they need the loser whatever haven't

681
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: even played yet. So it's not like the Bears won

682
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: and now we're out of it and we're gonna, you know,

683
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: go through emotions the late games on Sunday. Now you're

684
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 3: the first team on the docket. Yeah, I.

685
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: Think that's well said. I'm with you on that. So

686
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: we'll both lay the seven points with Dallas, will both

687
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: lay the six points with Detroit. The Broncos go to

688
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: Arrowhead Stadium. You only got a few more years to

689
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: get to Arrowhead Okay, by the time, what's a good

690
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: point of reference here. The World Cups coming to the

691
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: United States of America this summer twenty twenty six. By

692
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: the time the next World Cup happens after that, the Chiefs,

693
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: the Chiefs will be playing in a different state, or

694
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: at least putting the finishing touches on there.

695
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: With an election something like that.

696
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's a you know, we're already like a

697
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: year because it was the twenty four election, right, whatever,

698
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: But you're right, Olympics election cycles something something like that.

699
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 2: The Chiefs for the third straight year on Christmas, but

700
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: this year not feeling quite the same as the last two.

701
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: I don't have any clue how to take this, Like,

702
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: what's the line in this.

703
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: Game thirteen and a half The Broncos are favored.

704
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 3: Funny, they're telling us what the Chiefs are gonna do.

705
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: A funny like, you know, back to the future type thing.

706
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,239
Speaker 2: If someone would have dropped in to you and I,

707
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: you know, at Chuck Nolefield while we were in the

708
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: middle of a commercial break doing our shows during training

709
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: camp and said, hey, Christmas Day, when the Broncos go

710
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: to Arrowhead, we're gonna be two touchdown favorites. You and

711
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: I would have been like.

712
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: Right, what or this. I'm not gonna tell you who

713
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: his favor, but the spread on Christmas is thirteen and

714
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: a half. You'd be like, damn, bo Nicks is a bomb.

715
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: Chief still in the universe.

716
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: Another quarterback? It's Peyton on the hot seat, you know, yeah.

717
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: Wild I might lay those with Denver though.

718
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: I just I just don't can't put money on the Chiefs.

719
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: If I have to put a dollar down in this game,

720
00:31:59,520 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: it can't be.

721
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: And I know these guys are these guys are professional,

722
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: there's pride, there's all that stuff. But I think this

723
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: is such a unique example.

724
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: I do too. I mean, on your third string quarterback

725
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: from a team that always wins, you know, I mean like,

726
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: I just think this is a weird.

727
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: They're humans too, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's Christmas Day

728
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: and they like, I'm not playing Chris Jones. And last

729
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: year think about this too, because it's a it's a

730
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: similar roster. Last year, the Chiefs Christmas Eve had to

731
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: fly to Pittsburgh. You got to leave your family on

732
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: Christmas Eve and then you're gone basically the I mean

733
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: it was probably you know, nine or ten o'clock at

734
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: night Christmas. By the time they got back home to

735
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: their houses in Kansas City or Missouri, Kansas, wherever they live.

736
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: Like you're probably looking at this, like just the past

737
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: two years, I've missed Christmas with my family.

738
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's getting kind of old.

739
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: At least then we were winning and we were like,

740
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: we're six and nine, we're not going to the playoffs.

741
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes isn't running through that tunnel. What am I

742
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: doing here? I'd just rather hang with my family.

743
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's such a unique situation. Like you said, I

744
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: mean their perennial super Bowl team that if a couple

745
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 3: more bounces there double digit win team. This year, they

746
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: weren't that far.

747
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: And if Mahomes was completely healthy, maybe they'd still be

748
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: playing for fighting, scratching and klawon for you know, the

749
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: last ditch playoffs.

750
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: The league's so unhappy about that injury because they probably

751
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 3: beat Tennessee last week.

752
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: Again, there may still viable right.

753
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 3: Right, and maybe Taylor Swift is there and everyone you

754
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: know that we're glued to the game.

755
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: Instead, now you get a you get a trio.

756
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: I don't even care if I watched a bunch of

757
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 3: that game, you know what I mean.

758
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with job. I'll have these games

759
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: on but a right, but I'm not gonna be locked

760
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: in glued into it. And hey, National Football League, I

761
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: know you don't need any advice from me, okay, but

762
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: maybe just maybe peel back on the Christmas Day here

763
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: going forward? All right, Maybe this is jolly old Saint

764
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: Nick saying, no one's gonna be bigger than me. All right.

765
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: The NBA tried, the NFL tried, no one's gonna be

766
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: bigger than Father Christmas Baby. But yeah, I don't know though,

767
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: because there's not many things in this country that are

768
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: bigger than the NFL. But Christmas might be one of them.

769
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: Christmas and Jesus. It's a very heavy I mean in

770
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: those things, Christmas and Jesus are kind of tied together.

771
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: But those might be the only things in this country

772
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: with a bigger brand than the NFL.

773
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 3: And NFL might be trended in the better direction.

774
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: That's that's Fraser, and that's a rumble in the jungle

775
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 2: right there. That's it. Some of you guys who are

776
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: really good with AI and all that stuff, you could

777
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 2: put together a wrestling video of the NFL versus Christmas,

778
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: and we'll see, we'll see whose hand is raised at

779
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 2: the end. There one more segment to go on the

780
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: other side, some final thoughts, some tweets that we have

781
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: to get to as well before we pause for a

782
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: couple of days here for a Christmas breather. We'll do

783
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: all that and more. Put a bow, we put a

784
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: rapping Put a bow on today's proceedings before we get

785
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 2: up out of here. On the other side, Well Shooler,

786
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, It is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

787
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

788
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

789
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Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

790
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: Final segment here of a special holiday edition of the Drive. Reminder,

791
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: we will be back with you on Friday, the twenty

792
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: sixth day after Christmas to do our typical five star

793
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: Friday and preview for Steelers Browns. We still at that

794
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 2: point won't know if Steelers Browns, you know, means, means

795
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: anything in the grand scheme of things.

796
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: We have three games in the book that we just

797
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: talked about.

798
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: We will have those three games in the books, and

799
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: we will have obviously plenty to prepare for for a.

800
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: Lot more injury news, practice news. That's the I think

801
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: maybe there's a Metcalf change by then exactly.

802
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we should have clarity on that, maybe some

803
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 2: some more clarity on t J. Watt and then all

804
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 2: those all those guys on the injury report. And speaking

805
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: of t J Watt, Matt, I did want to make

806
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: sure to mention this today. Yeah, I understand. It's the

807
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. It's a popularity contest.

808
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeahs, Like we were laughing.

809
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: We were looking at the voting because you can see

810
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: the top ten players in terms of votes.

811
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

812
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like Joey Porter Junior wasn't even in the

813
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 2: top ten for corners. I think that's ridiculous. Zach Fraser

814
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: wasn't even in the top ten for centers. I think

815
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: that's ridiculous.

816
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: So that's even in the AFC. Yes, I mean, but

817
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: it's like sixteen.

818
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 2: But it's a total popularity contest. Like I get it.

819
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: I do. I don't want to put too much into it,

820
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: but I do want to give props to the guys

821
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: that get elected, that get named to it. And obviously

822
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: there's all kinds of time for backups and yeah, and

823
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 2: that guys and that kind of thing.

824
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, not Super Bowl and some guys don't play and

825
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: I'm super quick. I did a segment on this earlier today,

826
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: and I'm not gonna be like, this guy got screwed.

827
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 3: He should have been in. I don't care that much

828
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: because it is a popularity contest. But the things that

829
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: bother me are, why do we have free safeties and

830
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: strong safeties because most teams the Steelers is actually kind

831
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 3: of relevant, but most teams that's really not anymore. Agreed,

832
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 3: the AFC only had two corners. Go I'm like, we're

833
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: feeling a team with two corners.

834
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: It seems a little thin.

835
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: It seems a little thin. I mean, couldn't Porter have

836
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: been one of the other ones? And then the other

837
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: thing that's goofy and the benefits Steelers actually, in Watt

838
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: is there's defensive ends and outside linebackers. Yes, like they're

839
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: kind of all the same guys.

840
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that one. I'm with you on

841
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 2: that one. That one kind of surprises me too, But again,

842
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: it is what it is type thing. Jalen Ramsey, TJ. Watt,

843
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 2: and Ben Scronik as a special teamer have been named

844
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: to the program. That's what I was just good for him.

845
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: The other two they've got a long list of accolades,

846
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: Pro Bowls, and accomplishments. Right, But for someone like Schronic,

847
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: that's cool, and that's deserved recognism for playing at a

848
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: very high level his special team's role. That doesn't get

849
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: him maybe from football dorks like us and some of

850
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: our listeners, but for someone like him, I think this

851
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: is a pretty cool one.

852
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: I think it's massive. I mean, not to mention Killerbrew

853
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: would have got votes ahead of him had he knock

854
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: got injured, you know, like Killa Brew has one this

855
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 3: on or as one of the premier special teams. Yes,

856
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: so I would be shocked that, you know, his quote backup,

857
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: which I know it's not the one for one thing

858
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 3: even got consideration or anybody noticed. No, I think that's

859
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 3: absolutely huge. And again this is small potatoes, but there's

860
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 3: positions even like guard center, like not fantasy relevant positions

861
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: where once you get in you kind of break the

862
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: seal a little bit. And totally, yeah, Cier team, there's

863
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: a lot of guys that take them two years again

864
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 3: that he should have and then they're there two years

865
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 3: later than they should have been. Absolutely, and especially if

866
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: you're not like a first like first round pick guard.

867
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: You absolutely yeah, and like I think he's outstanding. Creed

868
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: Humphrey was the number one getting vote getter for centers.

869
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: But there's also part of that is how good his

870
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 2: team has been for the last seventy of all time,

871
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: playing behind Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, I bet you. There's a

872
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: bunch of Swifties that are out there voting for all

873
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: the Kansas City.

874
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: All the Kansas City, right, I mean, Kelsey got it.

875
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: This might be kind of cynical, but what I should

876
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: do is I should save the top ten voting guys

877
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: for the positions compare. We should see what the Chiefs

878
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: players getting if Kelsey retires and the Swifties are uninterested

879
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: and unplugged, we should see what those voting numbers look

880
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: like for the rest of the Chiefs next year.

881
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 3: Because they didn't exactly have a great year, No they

882
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: did not.

883
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 2: And I again, create Humphrey's outstanding.

884
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, and you're not saying he's a

885
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: bommby shouldn't be out there.

886
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: But I wonder if maybe instead of first, he'd be

887
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 2: third or fourth, if you know, if it wasn't for

888
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: the for Swifty Nation.

889
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: But well, I guess a handful of teams got six guys,

890
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: and the Ravens were one of them.

891
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: Yes, which is which is kind of hilarious but ricard.

892
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: And use check go every year full back and I've

893
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 3: used check with my cos that is on. It's probably

894
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 3: going to set the record for like most psecutive program.

895
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: He's gonna beat like Reggie White because he's not going

896
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: to compete against It's crazy because.

897
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: No one, no one has that position anymore. Really.

898
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Ravens also had a punter or a special

899
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 3: team or something too.

900
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 2: Of course, of course. Uh that that is Uh, that's

901
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 2: it for well for the for the Pro Bowl announcement

902
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: for the Steelers. A lot of you tweeted us, uh,

903
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: you know, like Merry Christmas, thanks for everything in your

904
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 2: hard work and we I'm not going to run through

905
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 2: everybody here, but we've gotten some really nice tweets in

906
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: the last day or two. Uh, but a couple here

907
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: that I wanted to address before we get up out

908
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: of here. Wallace tweets us and says it's a Maculate

909
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: Reception Day. Shouldn't that be a national holiday in Pittsburgh?

910
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely should at least.

911
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: Be brought up. I didn't at the first I thought

912
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: of it. Today so I'm cool with that.

913
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: I I I certainly am as well. There's always now

914
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: kind of a bittersweet element to it, with you know,

915
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: Franco passing away a couple of years ago, as he

916
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: did on the day before he was about to get

917
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: his number. Yeah, totally, but immaculate reception day.

918
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 3: I didn't see it live or you know, weren't around.

919
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: For it, or you know, you know what you know,

920
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: what they should do is like in all the schools

921
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: across western Pennsylvania, like after you do the pledge of

922
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 2: allegiance and and get the morning announcements, it should be

923
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: like a and now we're going to see the immaculate

924
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: They roll, theyveeel in like a TV with an old

925
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: VHS tape and they play on the Italian Army and

926
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: reception highlight for all the kids. It's like just like

927
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: you get wrapped in a towel terrible Tale at the hospital.

928
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: If you're born in Pittsburgh, it's like you should on on. Well,

929
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: but then now I'm really none of those kids are

930
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: in school today anyways, they've all been off Christmas. B

931
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: Wiggs tweets us and says, I'm certainly no O line

932
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: expert but how do you take Dylan Cook off the

933
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: field at this point, even if Progerck Jones or someone

934
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: else is healthy again. I think that has to be

935
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: a real conversation.

936
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 3: Oh, I think it's a real conversation. I mean, now,

937
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett might crash him back to earth, but I

938
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: thought last week he might crash back to earth and

939
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 3: he went on again. Hutchinson a fair amount. And I

940
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 3: don't know that Jones. I don't know if Jones will

941
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: even be available, but clearly they picked Cook over Pete

942
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 3: after originally picking Pete over Cook. Yes, so good for

943
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: them for recognizing, you know, and made the right decision there.

944
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 3: I don't know that. I bet they would not pick

945
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 3: Cook over Jones today, but maybe they would for round

946
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: one of the playoffs if he has two more super

947
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 3: strong games. Yeah. I mean, I wasn't trying to make waves,

948
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: but I think the two best games for Steelers twenty

949
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: twenty five left tackles for the past two weeks. Yes, yeah, yes,

950
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 3: more consistency like some of Jones highlight blocks can't make,

951
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: but he also has three game It's like, what are

952
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: you doing?

953
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: The range of the highlights and the low lights is

954
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 2: not as wide with right.

955
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: Right, and I just want to if you give me

956
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: a consistent left tackle, you know, I'll take that all

957
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 3: day long. That's I don't need highlights. Yeah.

958
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: I was gonna say that's half the battle. That might

959
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 2: be more than half the battle. Yeah yeah, Matt. Finally,

960
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: a three pack of Christmas questions from Andrew. All Right,

961
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: you and I typically don't do this cliched stuff.

962
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: We'll hit it.

963
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: We'll hit it real quick, okay. Number One best Christmas

964
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: gift you ever got as a kid.

965
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: My favorite I got the same thing basically every year

966
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 3: was I collected football cards. And not only was there

967
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 3: like there would be a box of tops.

968
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: The tops football cards.

969
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: Baby, the whole box, you know, not like Grandma gave

970
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: me two packs. You know you just go yeah, I

971
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: mean you just ripped through a whole box when you

972
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: were eight. Man.

973
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: The best is awesome. The best that was awesome I

974
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: used to get. I used to get the football cards

975
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: and the hockey cards too, and I used to love

976
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: getting those. Best though Christmas gift ever Christmas ninety nine,

977
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: I got a Nintendo sixty four after the third straight

978
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: year of asking for it. Oh wow, I asked for

979
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: one in ninety seven, parents told me I was too young.

980
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: Santa asked for one of ninety eight. Santa said too

981
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: young again. But in ninety nine, third time was the charm.

982
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: I finally got my Nintendo sixty four. Wow, okay, I

983
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: remember it like it was yesterday, Buddies.

984
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: It hadham and oh yeah yeah.

985
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: My parents were so against video games and all that,

986
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 2: but they finally them and the Big Man Santa finally

987
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: caved in December of ninety nine. Number two favorite Christmas movie.

988
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 3: I would say Christmas Story, Yeah, yeah, I mean it's

989
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: really good. It's really good.

990
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: I would go with either Christmas Vacation or The Jim

991
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: Carrey Grinch. Kay, I love I love me some Jim

992
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: Carrey Grinch. I love me some Jim Carrey. He might

993
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 2: be my favorite actor.

994
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: I is diehard a Christmas movie, Like, I don't want

995
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 3: to even have that conversation.

996
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: Because the answer is yes, obviously, duh sure right. Goodfellas

997
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: is a Christmas movie, right, I mean there's like three

998
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: Christmas scenes in the movie. It's whatever you want to

999
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: shop for.

1000
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 3: Christmas and Godfather when video gets shot. I mean, they're

1001
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 3: all a Christmas But I just don't like having that

1002
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: conversation every years as a hot dog and sandwich, you know, like, okay.

1003
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: Whatever, do you like cranberry sauce with your turn?

1004
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 3: Okay?

1005
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: Uh, do you have a favorite Christmas tradition?

1006
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 3: I don't think. I mean opening in that box every

1007
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 3: morning was a great tradition.

1008
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally Lately not as much. Okay, the only one

1009
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: I could think of, But it's gone by the wayside

1010
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: now because we have kids. My wife and I are

1011
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 2: first few years that we were married, we would do

1012
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: brunching Goodfellas every Christmas. Oh yeah, So we'd open up

1013
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: our presence and before we go over to our parents'

1014
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 2: house or whatever later, we'd make a big brunch, we'd

1015
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: have some drinks and we'd throw Goodfellas on. That was

1016
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: a tradition we had for like the first the first

1017
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: like four or five years of our marriage, before we

1018
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: before the kids, you know, got to the point that

1019
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: that we're putting on Christmas movies and that type of thing.

1020
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: Goodfellas is a Christmas movie. So anytime for Good Fellow wrong, Oh,

1021
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 2: you ain't lying, you ain' lying. I will be watching

1022
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: die Hard either tonight or tomorrow night. Though. I'll give

1023
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: you that one for sure, but just have just have

1024
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: something on. That's all the matters. It doesn't necessarily matter

1025
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: what it is, just as long as there's something on.

1026
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, everybody, Merry Christmas.

1027
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: Man.

1028
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: It has been a hell of a year in a

1029
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: lot of ways, but we've gotten through it and uh

1030
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: and and we will will continue to be here, rocking

1031
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: and rolling. I mean, we're not going We're not We're

1032
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: not going anywhere anytime soon. But we will be off

1033
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: Wednesday and Thursday. Back with you on Friday. Big thanks

1034
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: to Nathan for producing on the audio side of things,

1035
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: Mister TV Tyler V on the video side, make sure

1036
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: you're checking out our handsome mugs on YouTube and pumping

1037
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 2: those numbers up to make TV's Christmas merry and bright.

1038
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 2: For Matt Williams and I'm West Shuler, Happy holidays, Merry Christmas,

1039
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: Be safe out there. Everybody will talk to you Friday

1040
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: as always. You know where to find us. It's on

1041
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

1042
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