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Speaker 1: Official pod is on the move down here in Charlotte,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Time for some practice takeaways.

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Speaker 1: The New York Jets and the Carolina Panthers getting after

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Speaker 1: it on a scorching Thursday morning.

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Speaker 2: Quincy hanging in there.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna make it, you know, as you can see

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Speaker 3: them glistening in the sun. But uh, you know it

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Speaker 3: might make me look a little better on camera right now,

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Speaker 3: so i'll jews.

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Speaker 1: We opted for the hats. I think that's the smart

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Speaker 1: move right now, for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The sun as they would say, it's sunning, yes, right now,

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Speaker 5: And like you said, I think as soon as.

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Speaker 4: We stepped out here, we started sweating.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The crazy thing is the temperature isn't that bad.

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Speaker 5: It's just the sun that the right sunlight like to

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Speaker 5: your faces, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, So nobody's gonna feel bad for us right now.

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Speaker 1: We got a chance to cover and I if i'll practice.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you guys, as former Jets, how

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Speaker 1: many times did you ask today?

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Speaker 2: Do you miss it?

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Speaker 6: Every time on the field. I always get asked that question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know you miss certain parts of it, right,

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Speaker 3: Like there's always gonna be pieces that you're like I

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Speaker 3: could do without that, but going out there and competing

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Speaker 3: against another team, that's always the priority.

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Speaker 4: Number one.

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Speaker 3: I think that's always gonna be the part that I missed,

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Speaker 3: the competition level, right, going out there and knowing like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I think I'm better than you, and today I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: prove that.

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Speaker 5: Me and EA were kind of talking about this before

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Speaker 5: we came on you know, the podcast, and literally, like

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Speaker 5: every time I walked and met a coach that I

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Speaker 5: used to play for, even former players that are out here,

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Speaker 5: that's the first thing to ask you, like do you

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Speaker 5: missing And I miss the camaraderie of it, like the

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Speaker 5: interaction with the coaches, the players. And I'll say it

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Speaker 5: like this, there's no job that is kind of like

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Speaker 5: the locker room. Like there's no job in corporate America.

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Speaker 5: There's no job anywhere else that's like the locker room.

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Speaker 5: It's just take different places by different people. Right, So,

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Speaker 5: like you missed that camaraderie and like you said, the

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Speaker 5: competitiveness of it, like that's another thing that you miss

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Speaker 5: as well.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 5: I I don't miss being in them trenches and one

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Speaker 5: hundred yeahs right now taking on double teams I'm not

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Speaker 5: gonna lie side miss that, right.

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Speaker 1: So shoot him straight practice takeaways thirty thousand foot view.

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Speaker 2: What did you see out there today.

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Speaker 4: When you look at I think it was a mixed bag.

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Speaker 5: Right going into last year, I think the Jets defense

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Speaker 5: literally dominated and took over this crossover practice. I would

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Speaker 5: say it was more of a mixed bag. When you

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Speaker 5: talk about the Jets defense versus the Jets, I mean

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Speaker 5: the Panthers offense. I think Dave Canellis really dialed up

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Speaker 5: some plays the script guys open, Bryce Young. He was

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Speaker 5: last year. And obviously not having Quinn Williams factors into

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Speaker 5: that as well. Right, But Uh, some of these Panthers,

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Speaker 5: you know, receivers made some plays which you know, kind

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Speaker 4: So what's a mixed bag?

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Speaker 5: Thirty thousand foot through right, and then on the other

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Speaker 5: little bit more on this. Uh, turning the football over.

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Speaker 5: I think that was a surprise as well too. I

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Speaker 5: believe we had four today if I'm not mistaken. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and then the move to drill. Moved the ball drill

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers office really good all the way into got

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Speaker 5: to that. Bredon Allen was called tackled at the one.

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Speaker 2: Is that what they did there? I didn't know what

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Speaker 1: I thought it might be a two point cod version

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Speaker 4: There's no way he's not scoring there.

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Speaker 2: So it was like two hundred and forty five pounds.

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Speaker 5: And then yeah, and then when you look at that,

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Speaker 5: an interception my Aaron Rodgers. So again mixed bag on

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Speaker 5: both sides. Where you know, I think going into this,

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Speaker 5: but even destination was thinking that this would probably be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that's a good point I think for me.

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Speaker 3: I didn't get the benefit of watching them last year.

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Speaker 3: I only watched it on TV, right, And so when

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Speaker 3: So when you come out here today, it definitely didn't

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Speaker 6: It looked a little bit.

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Speaker 3: More even right, you saw Carolina's offense really making plays,

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Speaker 3: and the Jets still had some good plays. I saw

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Speaker 3: bit of a battle. Then defensively, right, you could see

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Speaker 3: having Quinn Williams not out there was was a factor.

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Speaker 3: it was a good practice, you know, just in terms

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Speaker 3: go out there and dominate, right, Like we talked about

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Speaker 3: last week with the Washington Commanders, right, there was dominant practice, right,

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Speaker 3: You know, I think on paper, these two teams should

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Speaker 5: Much this show's right, So like you don't you don't

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Speaker 4: So, I mean team shows some things.

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Speaker 5: They don't show a lot, right, because you don't really

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Speaker 1: I stuck with the offense with Caroline Hunter shots, sticking

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Speaker 1: couple pleasantries exchange between the Jets defense and the Panthers offense.

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Speaker 2: Can you give us kind of a blow by blow? See,

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Speaker 2: I'll be Jim Lampley. You're gonna be Harl Murcher.

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Speaker 5: So you know, coming out in that first team period,

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Speaker 5: Carolina has some successful star defense. Their receiver, I believe

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Speaker 4: The corner, let the ball, let the ball.

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Speaker 5: But the ball actually hit DJ Reid, so he looked

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Speaker 4: Man. You know, little pushing at seven happened there.

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Speaker 5: But after that happened, I knew, like every team period

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Speaker 5: some type of scrummage happening. And literally that's what happened.

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Speaker 5: I think the next team period that true who it was.

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Speaker 5: It might have been Quincy Williams hit one of their

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Speaker 1: Caroline actually told me it might have been Michael Clements

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Speaker 4: Yeah that was the second one.

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Speaker 5: I think Mike, that's one of the guards, was pushing

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Speaker 1: We're gonna flip it back to the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: throughout training camp. The one thing that stands out more

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Speaker 1: uh air and through to Lazard, short pass over the middle.

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Speaker 2: Came out hot high.

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Speaker 1: I think you gotta tell me if you're in the

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Speaker 2: To have back that's deflected.

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Speaker 1: the Jets move the field in their possession. Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: So Rogers is in business.

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Speaker 1: So before you know it, Reefs fumbles which you never see.

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Speaker 1: And then it was like the very next play, he's

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Speaker 1: looking at the end zone. Rogers is for his favorite target,

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Speaker 1: number five, Garrett Wilson.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he saw the linebacker.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, And then the final one was, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think it was a little bit of rushed, but

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Speaker 3: Tyrod Taylor, they were going down the field. They actually

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Speaker 3: did in no huddle after complete surprised, so then he

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Speaker 2: So fur and all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But I think the one the two that I

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Speaker 6: I would love to watch it again.

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Speaker 3: But it's always one of those things where if it's

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Speaker 3: As far as the one in the back end zone, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it because brief has always protected

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Speaker 4: So sometimes as a player, you need a reality check.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes you need you need to need practices like this

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Speaker 5: Let's continue to work, right. We still got two weeks

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Speaker 3: And I think you should never only interesting you're invincible, right,

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Speaker 3: Like you're always gonna have mistakes, and it's great because

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Speaker 6: Then what do you gain? Right? How do you grow?

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Speaker 2: How about some players stock up?

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Speaker 1: As Ethan Greenberger would like to say at one Jets drive.

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Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing with him, and I was

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Speaker 5: the little things, like finishing right, Like that's not a

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Speaker 5: And he did that like and it wasn't an issue

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Speaker 5: right now and again, you pray that you're starting five

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Speaker 5: if he has to go in like you're you're comfortable

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Speaker 2: I hate to say Garret Wilson, but Garrel Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Every day we're out here, no matter if it's New Jersey,

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Speaker 2: Dude. Dude just makes play.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 3: He's a hell of a talent man, and it's always

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Speaker 6: We actually saw it again.

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Speaker 3: There was a great play, not Garret Wilson, but then

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's gonna find the open guy.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's another thing that we can talk

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Speaker 1: What is his role going to be in this offfense.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's tough.

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Speaker 1: What are you seeing from that group? That includes Javon

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Speaker 6: So actually, also, bro, if you can talk about Bruce.

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Speaker 3: Hector, that's the name I was gonna talk about game.

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Speaker 5: If you go watch and break down the field, Bruce

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Speaker 5: Dude, well, to me why he's so pivotal and me

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Speaker 5: a A had this conversation. When you look at the

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Speaker 5: Jets D line and the way they've had success, there's

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Speaker 5: always been another defensive tackle besides Quinn that could run

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Speaker 5: Quentin Jefferson, Sheldon Wakens. I think this year maybe it's

446
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Speaker 5: Solomon Thomas, but they planned on moving Jermaine Johnson in

447
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Speaker 5: that spinner role inside and having to sign outside with

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Speaker 5: Will McDonald. We saw it towards the end of last

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Speaker 5: year with Bryce huff Right. He would sometimes stand up inside,

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Speaker 5: sometimes Jermaine would and the.

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Speaker 4: Other guy would be outside.

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Speaker 5: So I think that's missing right now from that package

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Speaker 5: because Hassan Reddick.

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Speaker 4: Is not here.

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Speaker 5: It'd be interesting if the starters even play, which I

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Speaker 5: doubt they do in any preseason game or maybe even

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Speaker 5: next week versus the Giants, do they start bringing out

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Speaker 5: that quote unquote NASCAR package?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Right, and then who's gonna be a part of it

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Speaker 5: since the son Reddick isn't here. So we were talking

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Speaker 5: about some guys that have played really well. Eric Washed,

463
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Speaker 5: a young kid from Yukon has come on strong tech

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Speaker 5: Tach McKinley. People forget it's a former first round pick. Yes,

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Speaker 5: the biggest thing with him is health. He had a

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Speaker 5: couple good rushers today as well too, so if he

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Speaker 5: can stay for sure, So like, uh, that's the biggest thing,

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Speaker 5: right when you talk about the depth in regards to

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Speaker 5: getting to the quarterback, because again.

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Speaker 4: We plan on Aaron Rodgers being healthy.

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Speaker 5: If he is, the Jets will have a league which

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Speaker 5: they haven't been able to play with the last couple

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Speaker 5: of years. Right, where does that extra rust guy come from?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 5: When when you're talking about a guy that is a

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Speaker 5: bigger body that can push the pocket and actually create

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Speaker 5: havoc inside, we've had Sheldon Rancas, We've had Quentin Jefferson,

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Speaker 5: who's going to be that guy for the Jets opposite

479
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Speaker 5: of Quentin Williams.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know Quentin Williams is going to be there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but hopefully Hassan is not too far behind either,

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Speaker 1: because this whole equation could look completely different if those

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Speaker 1: two guys are gone.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned last week about thirty players or so didn't

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Speaker 1: suit up against the Commander where the Jets are at

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Speaker 1: in their program and at this point in summer, do

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Speaker 1: you take a similar approach in week two?

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Speaker 4: If you're Robert Tala, I believe so.

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Speaker 5: I think it'd be just like last year where a

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Speaker 5: none of the starters play, And I think that's been

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Speaker 5: the message by Solid the whole time, right, maybe eyeing

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Speaker 5: that third game potentially, and now it seems like maybe

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Speaker 5: even not even then.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's just so weird.

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Speaker 5: We were talking about this EA with Caroline earlier, like

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Speaker 5: the approach in regards to cross practices versus preseason reps. Like,

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Speaker 5: to me, I think you need at least two series

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Speaker 5: in the preseason, right, just because there's nothing like in

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Speaker 5: Q said this earlier, there's nothing like game like reps.

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Speaker 5: Right again, you can have all the blitz periods, all

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Speaker 5: the third down, all the specialized red zone periods. It's

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Speaker 5: different when there's no script and you got to go

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Speaker 5: out there and play when the lights are bright, right,

505
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Speaker 5: when you have to react to what the offense is doing,

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Speaker 5: when you have to adjust to something like I think

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Speaker 5: each player needs to go through that, even veterans, right,

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Speaker 5: because you gotta think it's what seven months that you

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Speaker 5: put on the pads and played in the game seven

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Speaker 5: eight months. So I always like for veterans to get

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Speaker 5: at least two drives in the preseason just to feel good.

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Speaker 5: And I've talked to a lot of quarterbacks are like,

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Speaker 5: they like to get that hit out of the way

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Speaker 5: too before getting hit in the regular season. Right now. Again,

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Speaker 5: you want to be smart. You don't want nobody getting

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Speaker 5: hurt in the preseason. But I just think there's nothing

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Speaker 5: that equates the actual game reps in the preseason game,

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Speaker 5: even though you're doing the cross businesses.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys want Rogers to play in that third

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Speaker 1: preseason game a couple of plays against the Giants or

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Speaker 1: that's a non story, It doesn't matter whatever he wants.

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Speaker 6: No, Well, as a player, yeah, I would like to.

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Speaker 6: I would like if you're Garret.

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Speaker 3: Player, yes, yes, As a fan, as a spectator, as

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Speaker 3: an analyst no, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'll say this. And you know this, players and coaches

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Speaker 5: are superstitious. If you look at what happened last year,

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers played in the third preseason game. We opened

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Speaker 5: on Monday night. We opened up on Monday night football

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Speaker 5: last year. What did we open up on this year? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's all that My guy he's superstitious. I don't think

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers is playing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I thought one of the greatest examples of where we're

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Speaker 1: at this summer is it's always about hey, how are

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Speaker 1: young guys progressing, especially on a Jets roster that listen,

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Speaker 1: there's not a lot of starting battles going on off there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty much set across the board.

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Speaker 1: So Isaiah Davis, he's had a very good camp today.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Olu fashion you see on that right side

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Speaker 1: and he scoots in for a touchdown. Then later on

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Speaker 1: in practice it's a two minute drill. Tyrod Telor goes

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Speaker 1: through his progressions and he's got Isaiah Davis across the

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Speaker 1: field and he hits them in Isaiah Davis, he wanted

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Speaker 1: to be twenty yards. He wanted to be twenty yards

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Speaker 1: down the field before that ball got there.

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Speaker 2: But this is what it's all about the summertime.

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Speaker 6: Yes, of course, you know you got to go through

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Speaker 6: that process.

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Speaker 3: Correc It's not going to be perfect, you know, and

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Speaker 3: you got to go through just learning like, okay, you know,

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Speaker 3: this is what happens. It's like I said earlier, you're

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Speaker 3: not going to have a perfect practice and if you

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Speaker 3: want that perfect practice. You're looking for the wrong thing

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Speaker 3: out here. You want those mistakes, you want to learn

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Speaker 3: from those obviously as a coach. Like one thing I

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Speaker 3: said when I first got here in twenty fourteen was

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Speaker 3: it's a marathon, not a sprint, you know. And I

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Speaker 3: think it can be looked at the wrong way, right,

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Speaker 3: because it can be looked at as though you're being lazy,

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Speaker 3: But it's honestly like you you're working on those small

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Speaker 3: things before you get to the big part, right, So

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Speaker 3: you got to understand that it's not gonna happen overnight.

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Speaker 3: And uh, you know he's gonna learn that, right, Like.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure he had.

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Speaker 3: He felt so great after Saturday and then today even

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Speaker 3: though he had some good plays that probably that one

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Speaker 3: play probably is way his head for sure. But you

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Speaker 3: know you gotta learn from it. You gotta go into

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Speaker 3: the meeting rooms and the coach and canna be like, listen, man,

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Speaker 3: it's all good. You're gonna learn from this.

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Speaker 2: And the next time, aroun he's gonna make that play

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Speaker 2: for sure.

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Speaker 5: And it's all about like the growth, like you said,

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Speaker 5: like we saw it last week in the Commanders game.

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Speaker 5: Jared Bernard Conference great coverage on me Brown, that's just

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Speaker 5: an offensive player and a quarterback putting the ball where

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Speaker 5: only the receiver can catch it.

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Speaker 1: But then we saw I heard him talking.

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Speaker 5: But then we saw Conference dominate the rest of the

581
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Speaker 5: game and even out here a couple of PBUs like

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Speaker 5: he's really come on strong.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, So are we talking enough about the Jets cornerbacked up?

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Speaker 1: Because JBC and then Stiggers is a kid who has

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Speaker 1: put his head in there and this is not too

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Speaker 1: big for him.

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Speaker 5: And that's the thing we were talking about it earlier.

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Speaker 5: It's just like it's gonna be some tough, real tough,

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Speaker 5: and it's just like teams will scour this roster for talent,

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Speaker 5: right because we haven't even talked about Isaiah Oliver, who

591
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Speaker 5: they brought in this offseason, who's been a consummate pro

592
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Speaker 5: played a lot of slot corner It's weird that both

593
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Speaker 5: of our top slot corners are out right now. So

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Speaker 5: that gives opportunity to guys like you know, Stiggers and

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Speaker 5: also Bernard Converse. So great depth at the cornerback position,

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Speaker 5: and it's gonna be it's gonna be tough. And I

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Speaker 5: think about Bernard Converse, he played safety too before, right,

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Speaker 5: so he has that ability to cross over. So that's

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Speaker 5: gonna make him valuable on a fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 5: I think that gives him an edge of a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Guys receiver position.

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Speaker 1: I saw a couple of the beat writers today write

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Speaker 1: about roster projections.

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Speaker 2: They said, seven receivers.

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Speaker 4: That's sifty Well, we can go through it, right, let's

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Speaker 4: do it.

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Speaker 1: Garrett Mike yep, Gibson yep, Lazarre poorly.

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Speaker 4: I think those are the ones that are solidified for sure.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and we'll have time to do this.

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Speaker 1: IRV Charles is a special teams where Wolf okay, and

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Speaker 1: then Brownley.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, McCutcheon made some plays because it made a nice

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Speaker 3: player from Tody Rod on a dough ball today.

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Speaker 2: Had some experience or whatever. But if seven just seemed

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Speaker 2: to me like.

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Speaker 3: Six sounds more realistic. But it all depends on everything else, right,

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Speaker 3: because it's not just relying.

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Speaker 6: On the on the receivers. Where are you everywhere else?

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Speaker 3: Like if you think you need more of a receiver

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Speaker 3: than somewhere else, then you might go seven. So it's

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Speaker 3: so hard to do those roster projections because you don't

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Speaker 3: know what's going on behind the scenes, you know, but

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Speaker 3: if you go seven, I mean, who do you put there?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 3: Like, that's a tough thing, Like that guy has to

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Speaker 3: have not only receiver skills, but also.

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Speaker 5: Special team and I think that's the conversation with Brownlee, right,

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Speaker 5: we talked about this earlier. Q he's more of a

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Speaker 5: receiver time, He's got to become a special team guy.

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Speaker 5: And IRV Charles, does he take over just the special

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Speaker 5: team's ace roll or can he help.

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Speaker 4: Out on offense?

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Speaker 5: Like that's a question is as well do they just

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Speaker 5: look at him as a specialist or receiver?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 1: By and larsh is fair to say that the Jets

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Speaker 1: are in a good spot here in mid August, but

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Speaker 1: there is work to be done.

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Speaker 5: Sure, yes, sure, I think today showed you know, we

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Speaker 5: all kind of figured that they would come out and dominate.

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Speaker 4: That didn't happen.

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Speaker 5: And again, I think that's a good thing, right because

643
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Speaker 5: now you know there's things you need to work on.

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Speaker 5: You just can't come out here and think it's gonna

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Speaker 5: be sweet, right, you have to go out and execute

646
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Speaker 5: play in and play out. And we know Aaron Rodgers

647
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Speaker 5: is really big when it comes to the details of things.

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Speaker 5: Right so that it'll be something they talk about in

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Speaker 5: meetings and I think I think it's a good thing,

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Speaker 5: especially you han't it the second week of preseason, as

651
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Speaker 5: you get closer to the season starting that you know

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Speaker 5: there's things you need to work on.

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Speaker 2: NFL is hard.

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Speaker 4: Experience.

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Speaker 2: This was fun. Thanks guys,